Attraction Can Never Be Forced

[@ProfessorMeeks]

Just like attraction is uncontrollable So is disgust and repulsion. For every chad who attracts women without saying a word , theres also a man who creeps that same woman out without saying a word or doing anything .Both are unforced.

[@STCWGaming]

Unfortunately the ratio isn't even. 10 sub5s to 1 "Chad"

[@ilprofeta69]

For 1 chad there are 1000 normale guys called creeps... Their fault is not being chad

[@ProfessorMeeks]

​@@ilprofeta69 apparently the ancient scrolls read ,verse 1 "thine must be Chad" verse 2 "thou shall not be sub human "

[@ProfessorMeeks]

​@@STCWGaming agreed people assume the ratio is 10% for every number from 1-10 really it's (15% are 1-2) (40% 3-4) (39% 5-6 ) (5%7-8-). (1% 9-10)

[@bossgd100]

​@@ProfessorMeeks you cant put 7 and 8 together and cant put 5 and 6 also

[@dadec5972]

I recently had a discussion about 'primal desire' with a friend (5/10) and he said that he has never experienced primal desire from a woman. Despite this, he managed to have some relationships. This brings up another point: most women don't truly like most men, but societal norms push them towards monogamy. As a result, even average guys and sub5s end up with girlfriends and wifes. However, what they might not realize is that this women don't genuinely desire them.

[@BryJovi17]

Societal norms combined with the common human experience of just getting bored after so many years of doing things either alone or with friends. Then your friends settle down and this makes life even more boring and it pushes you naturally towards wanting to be in a relationship. But also, it's a method of simply coping with the rough times that life throws at us. If a girl has a rough day at work or is going through an emotional turbulent time then she wants to know her boyfriend can be there for her as a shoulder to cry on and simply being there can make her feel better and without having to face the crap all on her own. Yes, some girls will compromise on looks just for the sake of companionship and wanting to share good and bad times with someone else and/or signalling to her entire social circle that a guy has chosen her in return and wants her enough to stay around and be with her for the long-term. I'm pretty much a 5/10 but never ever experienced primal desire from a woman nor have I ever had a girlfriend. With me I've had attention from women who I analytically viewed as less attractive than me, single Moms who just wanted a bit of fun or access to my wallet to fund her and her kid's lifestyles, or tragically the timing just really wasn't right.

[@WheatWaffles]

Bro, I don’t think it’s possible for a 4/10 guy to get primal. I’ve never seen it in my life. I’ve seen 5/10 guys get it if they are nichemaxxed and exactly the girls type. But 4/10 guys ain’t getting primal

[@shadowmist4111]

They may get this things from the women settling, but they will not get primal attraction and desire. I'm older, divorced and am with a Stacy my age... She has told me on several occasions that when her ex husband touched her in anyway, in public or at home, she would basically gently refuse him and tell him she isn't comfortable. While with me, and she admits it.... I get to put my hands on her, any place anywhere (as long as it isn't THAT bad). She will reach out to hold my hand in public, kiss me openly in public with her initiating and show significant PDA. In fact, I was recently at a restaurant and she was hanging all over me (I was with her too) and another married man directly commented on her looks and how lucky I was. If her ex saw the treatment I get on a routine basis, he would probably shoot me...With that said, I crush him on looks, body, income, intelligence, romance and fun....

[@AboutDatMoney]

Sub5s don't get a relationship, average men including myself sometimes get lucky but only with unattractive and passed around women.

[@cobaltsurlin4888]

Your wrong they’ll get primal “disgust”, still primal just a different kind

[@posest]

This right here, was the HARDEST lesson and took the longest for me to learn. I've wasted years of time and tons of money trying to negotiate attraction. Don't do it guys. All you do is lose and lose big.

[@botaxalim]

reached same conclusion in the end, its wise save money and self improve than chasing , cause return of invesment not worth

[@mikeprice8307]

Oh you're tricking if money is involved 😂!

[@mikeprice8307]

Oh you're tricking if money is involved 😂!

[@amandaburleson2035]

you can get an older hotter women but she will come with kids. you can get a hotter girl but she might be black. its all so complex

[@mikeprice8307]

@@amandaburleson2035 boooooo to the 2nd statement 👎

[@soloharmonix]

STOP SIMPING GUYS. DATING IS ALREADY IN A BAD SHAPE. Most of these below average women now have inflated egos because you are all giving them free attention. Respect yourself guys.

[@highdesertarizona]

I wish I could give 1000 likes.

[@JohnJourdan88]

It’s a prisoners dilemma

[@soloharmonix]

@@JohnJourdan88 Yeah. We want women to be less promiscuous, but we also have a tendency to take advantage of their promiscuous nature. We have to fight our simping behavior in the end. 👍🏻

[@aaammee_7286]

the game is rigged

[@cpol4391]

Yup and unfortunately 99.9% of women will not follow this rule. I have been one of the only men standing strong on this so it won’t happen until other men follow

[@AAJJ007]

Precisely. If they don't "feel sparkles" within 5 seconds, they won't "feel sparkles" after the third $600 dinner either...

[@putiner2039]

So true

[@clancydowrca]

But they'll happily eat the 600 dollar dinner though!

[@AAJJ007]

@@clancydowrca Yepp. Three of them.

[@EnriqueMarcial-b8r]

What restaurants are $600+ that guys are spending on these girls 😯

[@sashavenka]

Chad or nothing

[@fleadoggreen9062]

Same 😊

[@EinSofQuester]

for me, it's a beautiful sexy girl or nothing.

[@tgheretford]

Modern day dating summarised.

[@stepback3396]

And make sure you dont approach girls with a camera in their face

[@Wario1382]

Triggered narcissism validation seeking 304. Womp womp

[@cranny5237]

In simple terms, she was never attracted to you in the first place because you're not handsome or good looking. But she convinced herself don't focus on the looks, focus on his personality. And deluded herself into thinking that one day the attraction will grow overtime. So, she reluctantly gave him chance to go on a date with him. They become a couple but down the road, she realised the attraction is still not there. Then he wonders why she cheated on him or dump him. In certain cases, other girl has no other options as no guys showed intertest in her. When she has no other options, (beggars can’t be choosers) she lowers her standards, settle for less and chooses you. You’re the best she can do because you’re the only who showed interest to her. Not because she’s attracted to you. Other times, you may not be her first choice. There was another guy before you, but it didn't worked out. Then you come along, you might be her second, third, fourth choice or even lower. Because you weren’t her first choice, it means she was never attracted to you in the first place. Other times, she chose an average looking guy or below average looking guy, because she knows he won’t cheat on him. Because he’s not attractive to women they won’t steal him away from her. The average looking guy is a safe choice. If she dates a handsome guy it's a risk for her as other women will try to steal him from her or he attracts women easily that he will cheat on her. YOU CAN NEVER CREATE OR CONTROL ATTRACTION NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY. IT'S NOT WITHIN YOUR CONTROL. Never tried to negotiate attraction. Don’t try to convince or persuade her to be attracted to you. Just move on. People have preference and you’re not everybody’s types. There’s so many foods on the menu but you’re not going to order all of them are you? You only order your preference. Same goes for dating not all women will be attracted to you as they have preference. So don’t think that having “game” or pickup lines will make her attracted to you.

[@R6KYSER]

Best comment.

[@undefined-x100]

This comment should pe pinned

[@antonioperezgomez4089]

TOTAL BLACK PILL!!!

[@mangomight7938]

Why do men in the military (a single gender environment) in photos and videos come across as more attractive than men in a mixed gender environment, such as a bar or nightclub, where competition for females is high? Perhaps because male camaraderie was highly valued throughout evolution and played a crucial role in ensuring the survival of the tribe. This point is rarely (if ever) mentioned by blackpill-proponents.

[@dave-oh3549]

Profound words. Great write up and thanks for adding such value. Up-voted.

[@Monsoon_Enjoyer]

I feel like I'm in the gray zone where women are willing to befriend me but not date me so i assume I'm about 5/10

[@ああ-c9v2m]

Same bro, The last slay I had was 2 years ago. It's a brutal realisation.

[@Monsoon_Enjoyer]

@ああ-c9v2m I think I'll just have to pay for it someday because i don't see myself losing my virginity naturally

[@TwistedLullabies]

Never be friends with women

[@Nourkoma]

i am 4/10 where women treat me as invisible

[@bulbasur1]

​@@NourkomaSame here. I'm done trying. It's not worth it. Better to realize the bitter truth than just go around and being a creep to girls.

[@ELgeneral-pl9yg]

Take the body-language pill. A woman’s body language never lies, so if you notice looks of anger, disgust, or annoyance just leave the interaction. It means she’s not interested. It would be interesting if you made a video about the different body language markers women give or phrases they say that mean youre done for and should exit immediately

[@Clockwork.Lemon854]

This. I always look at body language even in platonic relationships.

Women fake their body language all the time to play males like you.

[@mangomight7938]

Every person uses body language differently. The only way you can be somewhat certain that a gesture or other non-verbal cue means something is if you know the baseline behaviour for that person. Even then nothing is guaranteed. With that said, you can absolutely start and keep up a conversation with a woman who uses negative expressions, for example having her arms crossed or who leans away from you. In fact, you should probably mirror her to give her the space she needs.

[@ACMR6297]

The girls who are cruel when rejecting men and who are themselves single are resentful because they feel attacked by the men approaching them as she perceives them as beneath her. In their heads, by them showing interest in her, it means that she also low value and they refuse to accept that. The girls with boyfriends have their value vindicated by their partner and do not feel hers lowered by unattractive men approaching her.

[@maijensen3317]

not always the case. I dont think anyone is beneath me and I like smalltalking with stangers, but I scares me when men approach me as prey. Being too kind can put you in a dangerous situation if the person pursuing you cant (or would not) understand a polite no. It is my experince that people who randomly approach other people for sex easily get frustrated and act out. Being cruel can also be a way to protect yourself from harm. Yes most people are kind, but it is better to be safe than sorry.

[@Rampart.X]

Approaching strange women is predatory

[@asdfdc1946]

@@Rampart.X if you're not attractive to her, a man breathing or even existing is predatory to her lol smh

[@tinap8227]

We want to go about our day, not be pestered by stranger men. This is what many can't understand. I have no problem talking with people, but leave it at simply talking. And you wonder why we think you only guys only have one thing in their mind, it's usually because they can't get past the friendly phase without feeling entitled to more. If you can't be friends with a vvoman, why would we date you?

[@Wario1382]

​@@tinap8227is not that they don't want to be friends with women, is that guys don't want to be friends with women that are like you who are self centered. YOU ARE THE PROBLEM. GET OVER YOURSELF

[@tgheretford]

Just as there are men who are considered universally attractive, there are men who are also considered universally unattractive. If you're the latter, there is nothing you can do about it. You just have to live the best life you can without love, a relationship or your own family. Attraction can not be negotiated.

[@jordanpriam5648]

So unfortunate…so tragic🙁

[@mtayala]

The concept of one person "giving" a chance while the other person is "getting" a chance is wild. It automatically implies that one person is perceived as superior to the other

[@thechosenone93]

You know your comment is quite obvious

[@mtayala]

@@thechosenone93 and yet, people continue to engage in such a strange dynamic regardless

[@ButteredPecan17]

@@thechosenone93 Not to many, no it is not quite obvious you snarky reddit bug-man, what makes you think the majority of the populace understands this? The majority of the populace also thinks Germany was the bad guy in the 1940s too lol.

[@thechosenone93]

@mtayala yes. Because we have no choice and when we try to call others out on it we get called weird

[@kimwhitepill]

@@thechosenone93and yet we keep hearing about women being victims of unequality and blah blah blah. No ones bats an eye about unequality when men are the disadvantaged party.

[@gillesbarthod8443]

My experience as a 64 yrs old white guy living in South America, do not even try to talk to someone uninvited, be observant and notice who is looking at you or talking about you with a friend , then you can approach. Do not be a fool. This way keeps serving me well even at my age.

[@DutchinBrazil]

True, they select, you open the conversation

[@JohnJourdan88]

It’s called Briffault’s law. They choose you. No matter what any of these cold approach goofs say.

[@maxpaws3977]

Dr Robert Glover says just that, he says wait for 'indicators of interest' before talking to a woman.

[@badge5575]

Words of wisdom thanks gramps

[@Saturnfan94]

If all men followed this advice you would have 80 percent loner weirdo men out there

[@Alzkrah]

If she's not the one approaching you, it's over.

[@stan0033x]

by your logic almost all men must be lonely because women dont generally approach. They are waiting men to talk to them

[@EagerRobotFigurine-pj1lj]

Real

[@Syedabidi019]

Absolutely

[@morritz5548]

She of course doesn't have to literally approach, she may also give a sign, look on you or use her friend to talk to you.

[@TaperingHelp]

Both girls were wearing big ass headphones and were walking quickly to their destination, and that guy basically made them stop what they were doing, disconnect them from their music holding a freaking camera and told them he stopped them to say 'HI'. They literally have to deal with this on a daily basis in some places and they might not be looking for a partner (already have one, not looking, etc), and made it clear with the HUGE headphones. So their response was actually quite polite, they didn't ignore him, just made a face that explained everything.. and moved on.

[@Zeno308]

It’s not justified, he was being polite and didn’t deserve it.

[@Zeno308]

@@MariaDudley-k4jSerious question though, if he looked like brad Pitt would you be bothered by it.

[@MariaDudley-k4j]

@@Zeno308 Hand on heart. I think men overestimate how much looks actually matter to women. Someone can go from attractive to unattractive by their actions alone. The KZbinr who made this video. From a photo, he's attractive, from the second he opens his mouth, he isn't. If someone looked beautiful, but they were putting a camera in my face ignoring the social cues that I don't want to be bothered, they'd be instantly unattractive. They did a video on The Cut KZbin channel recently, (dating in the dark) that proved that the tallest, best looking, richest guy in the room failed, based on personality alone. We can't often look past a bad personality, but men (not to generalise) will accept bad behaviour if she's hot.

[@Zeno308]

@@MariaDudley-k4j nope it didn’t, but it seems like a pretty straightforward question that wouldn’t need an essay.

[@Zeno308]

@@MariaDudley-k4j For one if you really just didn’t want to be filmed one thing you can do I say you would like not to be filmed, and for two the camera is only part of the issue here, if this was taken away the issue is just that you would simply have to be stopped temporarily and talk to someone who found you attractive, and that’s often considered creepy to varying if it isn’t mutual.

[@memebro3181]

TLDW : Born attractive or don't waste your time and money chasing after women

[@TheGeoXWar]

I don’t understand his videos. It’s good to be a little blackpilled but should men just not even try if they’re not attractive or tall.

[@thesword-sapdog322]

​@TheGeoXWar Move to where shorter people live. Stay away from Basketball 😂

[@louisbee7923]

@@TheGeoXWar His advice is very sound. If you're not getting S-tier, just move on. She won't find you attractive one day.

[@Steven-iv1ie]

​@@TheGeoXWaryou should of course try but for some men giving up is the best option. Some of us just need to make peace with being alone. Not everyone is gonna make it.

[@Big_talks.]

@@TheGeoXWarif you don’t have it you don’t have it

[@jointhefun4]

Looks is the most important thing in this world even money is not in the level of looks its either you are born with it or not

[@bigdogtyrone8856]

Sad but true I'll be Alone forever 😭

[@EventualWarlord]

Status trumps all

[@justmonika2345]

@@bigdogtyrone8856 You don't want to be with most modern women anyway. They are expensive, controlling, and high maintenance on top of not being honest about their feelings with you. I'd recommend becoming a passport bro since women from other countries are not as concerned about looks and you can get a better deal as a man grabbing a higher quality woman.

[@juarezm.6737]

lol no... cirurgies and gym can do wonders to ppl

[@benjaminsente7430]

Well. Height, to be more specific. The guys I saw with a girlfriend very often look ridiculous. But they are taller than 1,85m / 1,90m. Even if they are complete untrained Soy boys.

[@ryderharmon3090]

I consider myself around a 4.5/10. I’ve accepted that I’m undesirable. Solitude is addictive. I’ve been happy for the past 4 years. Prepared for the next 4 definitely!

[@JoblessJoshua]

if you are white just go to a third world country and find someone there. I don't have that luxury since im an ethnic

[@jackiechun5817]

UNLESS you have an obscene physical deformity then you can actually elevate your looks/appearance by up to 2 solid points(ie from a 4/10 to a 6/10),homie😒. 1) lose fat/build muscle. Build a vtaper buddy that nemow find attractive. 2) hairstyle. Get an aesthetic hairstyle that also compliments your face shape/features. 3) facial hair. Get better facial hairstyle that increases masculine appearance and aesthetics...groomed 10 day(4-6mm length) stubble works WONDERS. 4) barbershop skills. Either increase your barbershop/grooming skills or get a GOOD barber who has an eye for bringing out your Best "look". Good luck, homie 🙏🏾💯💯💯🧔🏾‍♂️

[@ixplain]

Cope

[@ryderharmon3090]

@ hate that word. There’s a difference between “cope” and “acceptance”.

[@ChadliteOG]

@@ixplain Its acceptance not cope

[@DavidW-ux2gc]

One simp I know has entered into a long-distance relationship with a 3/10 girl who all of his friends slept with (he knew about it too). He travels up each week. Never sacrifice your self-respect for some box.

[@DavidW-ux2gc]

@hydraV1-c7d He might as well wear a bra.

[@MichaelCamacho-l9g]

Now it's his turn I guess😅

[@Muhluri]

LDRs are a scam

[@PatronErdos]

Brootal

[@AboutDatMoney]

Smfh.

[@Popec48]

No shit. It's the same for men. A woman I find unattractive can do or say everything in the world and I still won't be interested in the slightest.

[@JohnJourdan88]

Uh huh

[@thedragonofthewest5789]

indeed but the difference is the percentage of women men find attractive are much higher.

[@ExternalFocusGolf]

@@thedragonofthewest5789Thats false. 15% of both sexes are in the very attractive category.

[@Popec48]

@@thedragonofthewest5789 I dunno. Personally I swipe right maybe 1 in 100.

[@JohnJourdan88]

If they’re wearing headphones they don’t want to talk no matter what you look like

[@user-jy6ge7yh3j]

Every woman with headphones I ever tried to talk to always smiled and looked at me while taking them off. Even in gyms. I've approached probably 50 women thay had headphones on. I look like Timothee Chalamet with long curly red hair and dark green eyes, with 9% bodyfat. I've had rejections of course, but I've had one moderately bad one in all the situations I've asked. I've gotten dates asking women out in a wal mart parking lot at night. I've purposely done "creepy" shit to test stuff and they laugh. I've had girls do sexual shit publicly. One was just staring at me at a coffeeshop for 20 seconds straight. She pulls up her skirt and shows me her panties, she was really wet. I've seen women in tshirts get hard nipples and all kinds of crazy shit. Nothing black pills like being hot.

[@zhaar7199]

a deaf girl would regain her hearing if a tall handsome man approached her

[@user-bm8uu5eg5y]

hahaaaahhah

[@truiteteam3428]

Talking to a girl with headphones is already a bad move

[@WheatWaffles]

High creep tax. Same with girls who are rushmaxxed, I don’t even bother because creep tax is too high. High creep tax = instant F tier 99% of the time

[@5678plm]

The same happens when she looks or acts busy.

[@berlic6163]

Я подходил к девушке с наушниками. Через минуту эти наушники были в моих ушах(не ограбил, спросил что она слушает, но она возможно была готова к знакомствам, нужно уметь чувствовать обстановку). Главное не подходить со спины, вероятней получите негатив. Она должна предварительно тебя увидеть

[@truiteteam3428]

@@berlic6163 Sharing this device isn't clean :(

[@vornamenachname989]

​@@berlic6163I get what you're saying, but bro the way you worded it makes it sound like you robbed her or sth

[@dziugasluscinskas5742]

Guys, stop clowning around in cold approach, you can only effectively approach women when they are giving you strong choosing signals, and even then she might be using you for attention, women effectively segregated themselves from the possibility of meeting non-chad men.

[@Subhumanoid_]

Nothing is worse than sub-Chad men.

[@maijensen3317]

randomly approaching people just to get laid is pretty desperate and a huge turn off.

[@karlhans6678]

WW does that and gets laid, are you new here?

[@ChadliteOG]

@@karlhans6678 whats ww?

[@dreadedsun69]

You are correct in starting women choose who they want and men offer. That's why I've always believed women should be the ones to approach.

[@Michael_the_Drunkard]

They won't though, since they have a fragile ego.

[@lewiswilson4083]

No point in believing it if it’s never gonna happen

[@dreadedsun69]

@@lewiswilson4083 It does happen sometimes but it's rare. I've had it happen to me a few times in my life.

[@dreadedsun69]

@@Michael_the_Drunkard It's actually becoming more common for women to cold approach since so many men want, but they are usually very poor at it.

[@JohnJourdan88]

@Michael_the_Drunkard They absolutely do approach. It’s the only way I ever get action. It literally doesn’t work the other way.

[@Krelian4400]

I still remember when I thought "types" had to do with personality and behavior 😂💀

[@ArtbyLuke]

Some may call it "defeatist", but I say it's a truly liberating philosophy. To know that after you make your offer, it's ultimately out of your hands. It frees you from the burden of performance. There is no "negotiation", there is no "building attraction", it's either there or not. If she engages in any form of chicanery, its already over buddy boyos, next! Matthew 10:14 King James Version And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.

[@christophercampbell6884]

When I was in high school, I asked a girl if she wanted to work on the project as a group and she straight up ignored me, like huh??? I'm not proposing to you I'm just trying not to fail 😭

[@Mcbuggler]

Is waffles single? He's probably asked out thousands of girls by now, and he's still single? It's absolutely crazy what men have to do to get a relationship these days. I'm not going to cold approach and get rejected thousands of times..

[@LeadLeftLeon]

Indian and Chinese whine but ginger is hard mode

[@thechosenone93]

Exactly it's a waste of time,wommen actually approach but no one knows this

[@JohnJourdan88]

I promise you approaching is absolutely pointless. I’ve gotten several ‘GFs’ in the last year on 3 continents from them approaching me. It never works the other way around. If they actually want you they will come get you. Cold approach reeks of thirst.

[@massculini]

It never began for wheatwafflescells

[@jaxonv2098]

Escorts and prostitutes. That is the answer. If you're worried about them being dirty just remember the average woman has been run through just as many times

[@Brian-pq2mo]

He's right. After doing hundreds of approaches myself, I came to the same conclusion. It sucks, but its the nature of the game. Git good.

[@joshuawadsworth6417]

Not everyone can git gud, unfortunately.

[@LOL_MANN]

More like gut gud genes 💀 we need to respawnmaxx

[@razvanik]

Did You had succes during to approaches?

[@AboutDatMoney]

​@@joshuawadsworth6417Exactly, you either got it or you dont.

[@AboutDatMoney]

​@@LOL_MANNMannn I wish it could be like that.

[@renegade2853]

I'm 39 and experienced in dating and I think that you're bang on with this. The 2000's and 2010's muddied the waters for guys so much with nonsense game that did more harm than good.

[@shadowmist4111]

Haha so true. Honestly, game can work on trashy girls.... but once they figure out they have higher value... you are done for... If you just want to get laid by 304s, it can work, but if you want something real.... You better bring considerably more to the table than they do...

[@AboutDatMoney]

​@@shadowmist4111Nope, not bringing to the table, women don't do it.

[@LeadLeftLeon]

rsd? real social dumbazzes salted the soil for a decade or two

[@maijensen3317]

PUA.... how to manipulate women and use them for sex....no wonder you get rejected

[@Brenda-ny1gw]

What happened in 2000s and 2010s?

[@minotaur878]

There's a small part of you that instinctively knows this is true. A kind of gut instinct , when the moment a woman says "I'm not sure" or "Maybe", but it's not always strong enough to consciously notice. But this is all absolutely true. Looks are ALWAYS the key disqualifier for genuine long term romantic/sexual attraction.

[@angelleiva36]

I forgot where I read this: If it's not a "Fuck Yeah!", it's a no.

[@ModernDatingMastery]

*Trying to force attraction only leads to frustration, but when you're genuinely happy and self-assured, it draws others to you effortlessly.*

[@nightshade4186]

not if you are sub5

[@Dmitrij-nl3sc]

Money can't generate genuine desire.

[@mahayanaconfidential6452]

JUst bE ChAd bRo

[@mattdelany6799]

Just take a bath, bro’

[@jaggedventure]

What do 18 yo women hate but 60 yo women love? Attention from 30 yo guys.

[@nawab141]

​@MalesAreDemonsTop feminist name u got

[@AFT_05G]

​@MalesAreDemons That username 🤡

[@dkm4567]

@MalesAreDemons so obsessed with men you’ve got them in your username 😂

[@noonecaresm8641]

1. Just be handsome, simple as.

[@sobczak0712]

I'm avarege looking guy and I feel like il totally neutral to the people. Zero attention from girls and no matter what clothes I wear or how much money I make just nobody is interested in me. I just gave up because I have enough of trying and investing time to maybe get a number.

[@karlhans6678]

What country are you in and height?

[@Grand_Edict]

Travel countries. I went to Japan a couple months ago and bumped into an Irish lad and he was telling me how he went from 1 like a week back home, to 100s in the 2 weeks he’d been there. He said it was the most play he’s had he’s entire life and just didn’t have enough time But you have to be white tho

[@karlhans6678]

@@Grand_Edict what if i look italian?

[@Grand_Edict]

@@karlhans6678 idk. I Imagine probably the same as I don’t imagine they can tell a Sicilian apart from a northern Italian. I was also in a group of 6 and the only guys who had back to back evenings of bring girls back were my two yt friends, the rest of us were invisible. But it doesn’t necessarily have to be Japan. My underlying point is if you can afford to control the geography variable, do it

[@3choRay]

0:40 the moment you see those facial expressions failure chance raised to 90%

[@memebro3181]

90%? More like 100%

[@danowarkills4093]

More like 100 lol

[@DrsJacksonn]

Only 90%? You wish, it's higher than that if she has neutral facial expression.

[@JustNo8808]

That's why the guy should have said never mind with the scowl on your face you are quite ugly actually as he turned and walked away.

[@awemanyfit]

Nice detailed video. If she rejects you it's over, you're ugly to her. There's no game,gym even looksmaxxing that may help you

[@leonardotrevisan2538]

Can confirm every word, if she don't fall for you from the first seconds it's just a waste of time. Sometimes I meet girls that treats me like a Chad (maybe 5% of the girls I meet) and I know they think I'm dating material. That's the reason why if you're in a healthy relationship your gf sees you basically as the best looking male existing while almost every other girl perceive you as pure trash just like every other men. Hard but honest, they see you, they like you from the start or they'll never like you, the sooner you accept it the sooner your dating life will improve (or even commence).

[@robertfindley921]

True. There's a slight chance she will become attracted to you as she gets to know you, but any effort you put in to help that along will decrease her interest. Call it the Sigma Male Rule. But if you have something unique about you (PhD, speak French, ran a marathon, ...), a *tactful* comment by a wingman within her earshot can help. But avoid anything that looks contrived.

[@niconiconnu]

Moral of this video is, if you're a 5/10 or below in looks, you either involve yourself into a relationship where you're not getting S tier (ie someone who doesn't really like you and gives you 10% of the attention you're giving her), or you accept that true love doesn't exist unless you're a chad to her.

[@RobbytheRobot56]

0:43 I've never gotten anything this brutal before. He must be a Sub 5.

[@90slifter90]

Same

[@leonbernhard8866]

32 male here. Never got an s tier

[@Subhumanoid_]

I got a few from 2/10 warthogs. Made me feel _worse!_ I absolutely understand why women _hate_ being approached by sub-Chad men. That's why I'd _never_ cold approach.

[@AboutDatMoney]

​@@Subhumanoid_Yea as a 5 women below 5 or old used single moms want me.

[@JoblessJoshua]

brutal reality

[@jackiechun5817]

Any "romantic" Attention from sub5 is SAME as no attention... doesn't even register in my mind tbh😒

[@ButteredPecan17]

@@Subhumanoid_ Are you a 2/10

[@xMatanoobsHP]

Keep making videos bro helps a lot

[@DobbyTheGamer]

I really like that your content focuses on truth first and foremost. Truth is something highly valued by men, and the harsh truth is better than a comforting lie

[@AntonArmsberg]

"Men are beggars, women are choosers."

[@AboutDatMoney]

I aint no beggar nor am I other men.

[@MrAlb3rtazzo]

speak for yourself

[@greganderson2239]

100 factz.. sad truth but it's real

[@teddyinbed]

The goth girl did not think he was a creep. I have been her many time. She is in a bad mood, maybe due to pain. She put her head phones on and she wants to be invisible running her errands. She was pissed off that someone starting socialising with her when she didnt want that, thats why she had headphones on and don't come near me body language. Do not fuck with people who dont want you looking at them in public.

[@SunRise-ul7ko]

As someone who has had 4 girlfriends in my lifetime. I can assure you that the juice is not worth the squeeze. No way could I put up with the constant whinnying & move in with one, just to make a bad situation worse.

[@Mindless96]

0:38 her facial expression speaks volumes "The worst she can say is no" - what a wonderful world bluepillers live

[@Gamebred-Nightmare]

Just be half decent, gym-max a lil and go to Thailand and attract the rural girl villagers. You'll stand a better chance there than the UK

[@JohnJourdan88]

That window is closing

[@darktriadpersonalitywhitet2411]

The System you described is actually just a simplified representation of what we already know - namely that genetic makeup determines how people react to each other. The different reactions of women in various age groups or relationship situations are genetically determined behavioral patterns. We must acknowledge these biological realities and adjust our social structures accordingly. Instead of artificial social equality norms, we should respect the natural genetic order. Your approach of only dating women who show strong interest essentially aligns with genetic compatibility. However, I would go a step further and say that such partnerships should also be promoted for the improvement of the collective gene pool. It's time we stop pretending that all people are equal or that social factors can overcome genetic predispositions. Science clearly shows us that our genes determine who we are and how we behave.

[@johnvalentine4720]

It's Darwin's Theory (now fact) of Sexual Selection. There will be intense competition between males for females, females will choose the genetically fittest among them, it operates throughout the animal kingdom, and we are certainly not exempt.

[@PhillipLumsden-yg7my]

Just like you said, it is not even that the guy was creepy, it is just that she was not attracted to him. That guy was polite, decent and gentle. This goes to show that if she does not like you, there is almost nothing that you can do to change that. To her, he was just not that 'guy'.

[@Blkpll]

Type = Chad

[@FranzLorenzDivina]

“You Can’t Negotiate Genuine Desire.” 💪🏼😏🥋

[@bikinibandit2398]

Why isn't Waffle running Prince Harry game in SE Asia?

[@Breakfastststst]

Because that’s just cope

[@BigT-Tv82]

00:32 he just forgot to do the Yad stop!

[@jesse045]

Its not over, it never began in first place …. You just fooled yourself mentally

[@independentpuppy7520]

Women don't realise how lucky they are. Men are the prize. Women have been elevated far too much and men devalued far too much.

[@frankiecal3186]

That same girl was seen crying weeks later to her friend and over heard saying " Where are all the good men?"

[@edwardroy3401]

"Sub 8 theory" ... it's a fact

[@jason_v12345]

But he was actually being rude. Those girls had headphones on, and he interrupted their listening and their focus, and forced them to stop and take their headphones off for only his own benefit.

[@vishakh69666]

But those inconveniences do occur in the real world. Would you be rude to a police officer who stopped your 'joyride' asking for your license and registration?

[@william11724]

I really don't know why people hate on you, ur just speaking the truth

[@ricosuave666]

that situation in the first video has happened to me. exactly the same. im glad im not the only one that thinks women are generally rude and stuck up. i guess men just have to accept this as reality.

[@karlhans6678]

We can change it.

[@Rampart.X]

Women aren't obliged to be nice to predatory creeps

[@territorywar2806]

your share divine knowledge. your S tier rule is golden.

[@PatronErdos]

You cant buy attraction or force it.

[@DrsJacksonn]

Hey WW. This video format is better than when you were reading it of your phone. But you should stop with the constant hand movement.

[@Psycho_Therapist_9573]

Pin of shame

[@AboutDatMoney]

You should stop

[@DrsJacksonn]

@@Psycho_Therapist_9573 I wasn't getting special attention when I was being supportive among the 'rent must be due' comments lmao.

[@CRM-114]

It’s about looks. We get it.

[@AllenFreeman2]

I appreciate you talking about BP.

[@Musewhisperer]

One issue which was not pointed out in the short clip at the beginning was that the guy was holding up his phone to record the interaction. If your looks aren't in your favour to start with, then holding up a phone is not gonna help you much.

[@msilence2009]

I can confirm the hypotheses spoken by the author are absolutely valid.

[@ThulsaDoomr]

Attraction is instant. It applies to both women and men. Your subconscience knows before you do. If you don't get instant yes, do not bother so not persue, do not waste money and time. You can't negotiate it, you can't force it, you can only buy somebody's time, but it will cost you and the moment times gets hard, they will leave. Do you want to live that lie? Here's the brutal part, it's when you understand that, start seeing things for the way they are, and you realise you get no signals at all.

[@JohnJourdan88]

Not true. An ex didn’t like how I looked but stuck with me for a few years and later admitted she now found me attractive.

[@maijensen3317]

for some people it takes time to built attraction. You can get an instant yes to go on a date, but dont assume she is head over heal

[@karlhans6678]

ThulsaDoomr i think ive seen you comment in RR videos?

[@ThulsaDoomr]

@@JohnJourdan88 How do you explain that other than the Stockholm syndrome? If she just did not like how you dressed, then I understand. That is salvageable, like buying a car that you know is in great condition, just dirty. Bones, are not salvageable.

[@ThulsaDoomr]

@@maijensen3317 The word you are looking for is: Dependence, not attraction, dependence.

[@thegritsch]

Yeah this is pretty much true. After about 300 dates I can see it. It ain't worth it in most cases, if not all. Keep in mind though that it is not just "looks", the hardware. The kind of person you are shows through as well, your emotional make up, your self image etc. When you can tap into your mature masculine you'll be surprised at how quickly your attractiveness can change, but that is something that takes years of work and possibly therapy and coaching if your life experiences haven't lead you there naturally.

[@destructo3915]

This is all sadly true. The last hookup I had was January 2018 and I had to pay. I've tried dozens of times to get some for free, but it never works. Whether the intent is sex or just taking them out on a date, they always want to be paid, like it's nothing more than a job. Of course this only applies if you're sub 5.

[@JohnJourdan88]

That’s not a hookup.

[@thedragonofthewest5789]

there is a reason why prostitution exists since ancient times.

[@destructo3915]

@@JohnJourdan88 Good point. Sexual encounter I guess.

[@jordanpriam5648]

It’s a Rough Ole Life 😢

[@GregAnderson-r3k]

I got rated as a 4/10 by WW but i've actually had quite a few woman who have found me attractive and i've been able to pull 7-8s so attractiveness is really a subjective variable. It's hard to measure because if you're not truly ugly or truly attractive people will see you differently..

[@shinjishinjs6060]

this guy is crazy/autist

[@GregAnderson-r3k]

@shinjishinjs6060 you're crazy, you don't know me so don't judge me... I'm speaking facts dummy

[@Armicus334]

😂 nice joke bro

[@GregAnderson-r3k]

@@Armicus334 it's not a joke, I'm telling the truth

[@thomass3036]

I completely agree. Only people that are at the extremes of the scale of attractiveness will generate a concurring rating of how attractive or not that they are. Most people, men or women will exist somewhere between the extremes and then beauty really is in the eye of the beholder

[@nicholaslabauve2707]

"Lol, you fancy a bit of ging" my siiiiides XD

[@jwvtube]

under 5 it's over but under 7 It's no life. Only chads win. What's the point of playing a rigged game ?

[@maijensen3317]

Chad wins because he does not have to play games

[@anonymousyoutuber4136]

I am a little below average looking. I find that cold approach does not work at all for me. However, at work or social settings, just treating the attractive women like everyone else and not simping like all other guys sometimes works. It helps that I am good shape and have a ful head of non grey hair as well.

[@thechosenone93]

So youre saying you were successful with femail co workers?

[@Trigga_47]

This is good advice, especially for Travis Hunter.

[@jointhefun4]

Attraction starts from birth how you look is determined by your race,,race is the most determining factor when it comes to attraction and looks,,

[@bestgtor22]

A 7/10+ non white male is desired much more than a 5/10 or below white male even in Western countries. Same level looks white males usually have an advantage though.

[@jointhefun4]

Facts they dont like to hear this

[@AboutDatMoney]

Facts.

[@lewiswilson4083]

I agree race is a factor. Like a brown Brad Pitt will probably never reach white Brad Pitt levels of mass appeal, but idk I think it’s overblown. At the end of the day they’re both still chads if they have the right facial features.

[@JohnJourdan88]

lewiswilson4083 All theoretical. There is no brown Brad Pitt. There is not brown Leo.

[@jigsaw2253]

Facts Waffle

[@RilevTV]

S tier doesnt mean jack shit in 2024

[@RilevTV]

she fucking cried and didnt even reject me to my face

[@RilevTV]

all after giving me S tier

[@itaikaufman2986]

@@RilevTV Yeah, I got it recently from a very decent looking girl, to the point it surprised me since I would say I am a 5 or a 6 a most, anyway it lasted only for a few weeks, later she decided she doesn't want to continue, so yeah, S tier doesn't worth anything if its not continous.

[@RilevTV]

@@itaikaufman2986 weeks? i didnt even get her number

[@RilevTV]

@@itaikaufman2986 semi-recently she made a cartoon and put a small detail she associates with me in the worksheet like she misses me, but makes it so damn hard for me to contact her

[@RyanPatrickFlanagan]

9:30 mark - nailed it right there Wheat - great mentality to have. Men need to hold the line! 💪👍

[@theprogressivemichigander6588]

I wouldn't ask a girl who agreed to a date "Do you find me physically attractive enough that you would want to get to know me more." It seems like an incredibly blunt and off-putting way to find out if someone finds you attractive. Even if she did find you attractive, I wouldn't assume she would say yes. And if she did say yes, I think she'd still be less likely to continue dating you if you were behaving so strangely and are so narcissistic and insecure seeming. That said the underlying strategy of mainly pursuing people who clearly like you is probably good.

[@P.90.603]

He's just being direct and honest so that he doesn't waste his time. Nobody wants to do it this way, but most women created this environment because they go out with men for attention and resources. And if woman loses interest in a guy because he's honest...why would any guy seriously date her??? It's like a guy loses interest in a woman because she's looking for marriage and children.

[@MegaAvalonn]

A big problem though, that Wheat Waffles didn't bring up, is that unless you live in a huge city - there isn't enough girls with S-tier choosing signals to go around if you're a guy with a 5 to 8 rating in terms of attractiveness. Unless you have boatloads of money to fly or drive girls into your hometown, you're going to go through periods of dry spells that will last months. Online, I can find girls with S-tier, but more often than not, they're at least 100 plus miles away.

[@maijensen3317]

move to a big city......tiny problem solved

[@MegaAvalonn]

@@maijensen3317 Yes, move to a big city were it costs 2 million dollars for a condo and you're unattractive to women because you no longer own your own place. Tiny problem not solved.

[@bigscores7237]

The theory in this video is antithetical to much of what PUA teaches, which is probably why it is basically defunct now.

[@madmarshal7708]

The second girl from TikTok is legitimate subfiver

[@KW-gs2gp]

Not worth wasting your time on “modern” western women.

[@JohnJourdan88]

It’s the same everywhere now

[@karlhans6678]

not yet

[@JohnJourdan88]

karlhans6678 Do tell where it is isn’t. I’ve traveled several continents in the last year. It’s even worse in Asia and Latin America.

[@karlhans6678]

@@JohnJourdan88 not from my personal experience but from others that have travelled there, it was less difficult to get a gf.

[@Apollyon.King.of.the.Locusts]

I just purchased your Black Pill Bible. I just wanted to let you know, that your work has had a tremendous liberating effect in my life. No more, I am chasing after rainbows and unicorns or trying to be something that I'm not. Respect - walk.

[@piero3572]

the first blackpill commandment looks looks looks

[@anonymouse7074]

The camera side angle shots are too long, there's nothing impressive about your side profile bro 😊

[@DavidW-ux2gc]

How did this guy not realise that she wasn't attracted to him/didn't want to talk to him @ 00:35?

[@sigmaboi2946]

Yup just the facial reaction is a big giveaway

[@sdasdgfdgd2931]

PUA brainwashing

[@Odd342]

When you are this fast, it's a good sign that you are not gonna get laid for next 10 years

[@gatosano]

Kinda common sense knowledge but the conclusion is gold tbh. One of your best vids recently

[@SatanyahuDisciple]

I've had around a dozen girls show interest like this in hs and my 20s. I wonder how they must've felt when despite putting their best foot forward, the guy showed them zero enthusiasm or gave off very close-ended responses. Still alone at 37, but I'll always cherish the fact I have a negative rejection record.

[@BARZEL343]

Your last video about the Creep Tax... How about a video on Creep Tax Deductions: Being seen walking a cute dog. Being seen with other women. Being seen with a baby. Stuff like that.

[@WheatWaffles]

I alluded to how you can reduce creep tax with low investment decisions. Namely staying away from cars/busy roads, wearing light and tight fitted clothes, focussing on daytime rather than night, keeping distance, showing full face etc

[@bennybenny7382]

Actually walking a cute dog can draw younger females to have a chat with you in the street lol

[@Subhumanoid_]

Try to get busy during the flu season (COVID was best, but whatevs) so you can wear a mask. I noticed much better treatment by people whenever I can hide my face.

[@JohnJourdan88]

bennybenny7382 Yep. I remember in 2020 I was walking my Jack Russell terrier and two girls holding hands walked past me and said ‘hi handsome’ looking right at my dog. I responded with ‘Hi! Oh you meant the dog.’ I could hear them laughing about it for a while.

[@BlackChad792]

I think NOT doing these things organically, as in a candid self motivated way, will end up with you looking like the guy that tries very hard to look approachable and results the opposite - like even thinking about walking around a cute dog around or going on a walk with a woman with the backthought of reducing your creep level, will make you subcontiously more creepy, than if you would have done those things without attaching a plan to it. People notice if you are faking or trying to hard. Its subconcious.

[@n-tertainmentx-tended4760]

It can't be negotiated either.

[@whitecrossredground8820]

The first two girls gave me a good laugh, being so plain and yet hostile.

[@LeadLeftLeon]

Yep do yourself a favor and talk to only 6s or more

[@handsomeX]

To be fair, i dont wanna get approached by anyone for anything when I'm walking around getting my errands done. Especially if i have to be somewhere by a certain time afterwards.

[@AboutDatMoney]

Same.

[@MikeG82]

stop lying, some perfect Stacy is not going to make you feel bothered

[@Rampart.X]

Obviously. But these creeps think they're entitled.

[@MikeG82]

@@Rampart.X stop lying and everybody is entitled to human decency

[@handsomeX]

@MikeG82 I'm dating a Stacy and I'm not hard up for validation like most of u guys are.