Wheel or Controller - Which is Better? (Gran Turismo Sport)

[@TheRacingMonkey]

Wheel or controller? Chase-cam while jumping on a Dance-Pad, that’s the way to go mate

[@nicholascageinacage6826]

The Racing Monkey I would pay good money to see you try that on Goliath in FH4

[@Super_GT]

Next video: Just Dance mat VS Rock Band drums

[@TheRacingMonkey]

Super GT **opens Amazon**

[@blackavar]

@@Super_GT Or maybe those Donkey Kong jungle beat bongos. Some guy finished a dark souls game with them.

[@WagnerExorcistGroup]

@@Super_GT Diameter On Wheel McLaren GT3 300 Diameter is Hybrid Between GT3 And Formula 1 is Not Best Choice You Need Either True GT 320 Diameter Wheel Or 270 Formula 1 Wheel I Am Researching Doing Investigation.

[@damiresq]

i love the wheel because i can scratch my nose during the race

[@GrandoSilver]

That is main reason for me why wheel ;D

[@jorge8596]

You can also change settings while turning. Having to manage the fuel can be a pain on a controller

[@Brixxmin1429]

Jorge claw grip man

[@mr_c_man2522]

Lol true

[@nousernameneeded1544]

That's the main reason I use a wheel any time I scratch my nose on controller I spin out

[@lieutanant8058]

I strongly disagree, I think a wireless keyboard with a ball mouse would be significantly better. Especially for Sim racing

[@danielwagner4134]

I wonder if ball mice still exist. Haven't seen one for a long time xD

[@lonelypizza9394]

@@danielwagner4134 Got some, wanna buy? But I only accept bitcoin.

[@Epck]

@@danielwagner4134 I have a Dell one but I lost the ball

[@InTheZone85]

@@danielwagner4134 they exist, there's one at work in a system that's fairly new

[@zacharyking6171]

@@danielwagner4134 walk into any government office and you are bound to find them

[@LHudson21201]

Doesnt matter what you use, as long as you are able to ram people through the shadow realm.

[@thinsmoke7679]

@LHudson21201 You've accumulated 132 likes since you uploaded your comment a year ago :)

[@himark4981]

Don’t brake just use the other people

[@hentai69master]

@@himark4981 brakes are bad because they slow you down

[@himark4981]

@@hentai69master I uninstalled my brakes

[@egyptent6413]

@@himark4981 🤣🤣😂i cut my brakes

[@JustDevon]

Real men play with D-Pad steering and cockpit cam with no HUD. Get good. Wake up people!* *Probably necessary to note the sarcasm

[@smokey8679]

dead joke

[@Super_GT]

Fight me

[@treerexaudi]

Real men use a nintendo DS hooked up to there keyboard

[@or2kr]

The pressure sensitive buttons on PS2 and PS3 were killer

[@mattj790]

*sheeple

[@NiallBruceF1]

20 years of controller Vs 2 weeks of wheel

[@LewisRacing90]

Agreed! The wheel is better though

[@sandman1347]

Yeah in time there will be a solid half a second difference in single lap pace in favor of the wheel.

[@colinhughessimracing2757]

I've been on wheel exclusively now for 2 weeks as well they are so different with only a few days I had faster pace with the wheel and it's so much more fun

[@gkoshinsky]

The camera view is probably a bigger factor than the controller.

[@colinhughessimracing2757]

@@gkoshinsky camera placement will make a difference but in terms of handling tyre wear the camera is irrelevant

[@Samuel_Watson]

Hello SuperGT, viewer here.

[@iiPolaris]

Hello Miata viewer here

[@weabae5910]

iiPolaris hello weeb viewer here

[@conorf8091]

Copied from kelani ...

[@mohammed_kadhim]

Super GT viewer hello

[@zacharyreagan7045]

Hey miata. Mustang gt driver here. I bet going through turns fast is fun...

[@rnelson1415]

SuperGT vs SuperGT Spoiler alert: SuperGT wins

[@TheOdd]

Suprisingly no 6th places.

[@illewmenadeh722]

thanks for the info, god shall bless ya m8

[@MiaReiFilms]

they both get 6th

[@Impreza-bj5jh]

Wow why'd you have to spoil it jerk

[@andetius]

Sup bruh

[@LOPESYT266]

The precision in the turns makes the wheel much better, but it requires a lot of training for those who think it's just getting a wheel and already become a professional player, It's not that easy lol

[@quintenbronsveld6501]

True, im also playing with a wheel, its so hard

[@zelkuta]

This is very true, I've personally found braking to be the most difficult to adjust part switching from a controller to a wheel. I personally don't feel as precise on the brake pedal on my rig vs the the controller.

[@KingLizzardsGameLounge]

Agreed it's tough getting used to a wheel when you have been using a controller since forever. I am still faster on controller, considerably, but thats most likely due to me not being able to adapt as easily. I went the full deal, shifter and pedal set (but no seat, no room unfortunately) and the hardest thing in the world for me is changing down gear and braking at the same time, my brain stops working, so annoying (I can drive in real life so you'd figure I'd be a natural).

[@yammmit]

King Lizzard's Game Lounge I’ve played things that are more sim-like on a wheel for a couple of years now, but I have to get a wheel adapter for GT Sport since my wheel is Xbox only. That said, I was surprised with my speed after playing with a controller for less than an hour.

[@angelserrano9049]

I love this comment as I feel the same... I pretty much never had a problem using a controller. Wheels are great because they're more realistic considering real cars have a steering wheel but yes, the learning curve can be a bit of a chore than fun especially when you don't have a stand for the pedals that slide everywhere without one. I feel like alot of ppl praise it more just to fit in, personally

[@shiftdnb]

It's amazing how consistent you are across both

[@mopsnuf]

Very cool, you should repeat the test next year same time!

[@montevallomustang]

That's what I'm thinking how many years has he been playing on a controller and it's only been like a month on the Wheel

[@MrRetroIsland]

@@montevallomustang he used to race go kart back in the days, maybe thats y he have no problem transition from controller to wheel

[@randomisntavailable]

1 Year later...

[@2bnator]

random ...and GT7 is just around the corner

[@elbeto191291]

Love how you're practically racing against your controller alter-ego with your wheel alter-ego. Awesome video.

[@Aypsi]

SuperGT eating chocolate is like Popeye eating spinach. Gives him an additional 100hp

[@CarloPlaya]

It propably helps with the cold hands excuse as well

[@nikitamazespin4711]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@diethersantos6404]

Hahhahaha

[@mrmedium7984]

fatigue, accident avoidance, and consistency are huge reasons to get a wheel. Yes it is diminishing returns in terms of cost to lap times, but if you want to be competitive, you have to get a wheel with force feedback.

[@whitelinefever4865]

If I may humbly interject super gt, you have had years of practice with the controller and have learned all of its nuances, where as with the weel you are still relatively fresh compared to the controller. I'm interested to see the difference in 6 months and a year from now.

[@Super_GT]

That perhaps shows why the wheel is better. The fact I was equal after such a short time on the wheel, shows that the wheel is better I would say.

[@whitelinefever4865]

@@Super_GT I would agree and add to that the tire saving is almost the difference between between a 6 place and a win that's not factoring in your consistency on the weel.

[@whitelinefever4865]

I would also speculate that you gave an unconscious bias to the controller by using a track that you were comfortable with I belive in prime conditions on an unfamiliar track the gaps would would really show themselves. But this is only speculation.

[@Super_GT]

It was a conscious decision (as mentioned) to use Gr.3 and Nurb Gp. I felt this would give the best balance as its what I am best at in both the wheel and controller.

[@whitelinefever4865]

@@Super_GT fair enough there 😀

[@oscar4612345]

The face cam video is crispy as heck. More like F4H_SuperHDGT

[@charlienelson5656]

I was looking forward to this video and Super GT didn't let me down

[@Mtxzptlk]

Polyphony has actually stated before that they worked hard to optimize the GT Sport to work well with the DS4. This def shows on this video. Good job Polyphony, now fix that online race bug that drops players when loading into the pre-race lobby.

[@Super_GT]

Yup, the controller definitely works well on this game, no doubt.

[@jacqueskloster4085]

Yes and this is only possible by applying a buttload of context sensitive Filters like Delays, limiters. These even react differently when you Lose grip so you can turn faster until you gain grip again. It's outstandingly well crafted... Can't think of any other game on any Platform with that amount of "sim" in it that does it even half as well. Including forza.

[@IAmSpartacus007]

For a second i thought you were about to drive round the Nordschleife 10 times 😂

[@michaelvillarreal4419]

I've done that

[@retslayet3290]

@@michaelvillarreal4419 that's commitment my guy

[@eff0165]

Well I got some news for ya

[@jabberwocky1493]

@@eff0165 Super GT before doing the 200 lap race on the Nürburgring: hold my beer.

[@Youaintseenmeright.......]

I play using a mouse and an iphone stylus with the camera fixed to see nothing but the underside of my indicator stalk. It's probably added 50bhp to my tyre pressure

[@Super_GT]

Damn son, I thought they banned that for being overpowered??

[@davidwilliams113]

There I was minding my own business playing dirt 4 when I needed some advice, turned to the net and you popped up and I got some good tips so I started watching your other stuff. I bought Forza 7, bought a g920 with gear stick and built a rig. I've never played road racing before, now I'm addicted, you GiT. great video and cheers.

[@Super_GT]

Awesome to hear mate!! Many thanks

[@KevAlberta]

I have the 920 and it seems really bad on forza. I don’t know. Maybe it’s me

[@bv2799]

@@KevAlberta Same. Only feels good when racing X class

[@KevAlberta]

BV27 I actually ended up returning it. I never tried anything above S class. It felt the best with the slower cars (like C class and under) but really I saw no progress in the 10 or so hours I put on it, not even a sliver. Just didn’t feel authentic Edit: also I probably have 1500h in the forza games alone and frequent alright leaderboards and usually come first or podium

[@MegaSmiley]

wow, amazingly close in that first race. nice consistency!

[@riptidev10]

Noone will see this but, PS4's preview of your video is a few frames of you munching on the Easter egg and the egg itself LMAO PEOPLE WILL BE SO CONFUSED

[@VelhaGuardaTricolor]

I am confused by your comment!

[@k4muk3nu]

Today we've learned that ~10 hours of wheel-time is enough to keep up with a god-tier game-pad Jockey ;)

[@Racin3]

Amazing how much difference in tire wear between the controller and wheel. Definitely do more of these type of videos in the future. 1 every now and then just to educate your audience (and maybe yourself along the way).

[@JeffWeselyan]

RacinX it kind make me mad I been racing controller for long long time

[@babab_m]

of all controller vs wheel tests on youtube i have never seen someone so quick and consistent with both, this is a really good test, someone that actually has good experience with both

[@TheOdd]

The N64 controller is obviously superior to everything we have these days.

[@RS-nq8xk]

A keyboard too

[@cocoyflorin9608]

nah, atari joystick

[@FLY1NF1SH]

Wow that's a wheely big difference

[@Wafflecombo54]

Wheel definitely worth the investment, I tried left stick it just wasn't for me. I bought one because I wanted a more immersive experience. All comes down to preference at the end of the day. Left stick is faster in lap time no doubt, wheel feels more precise in turning.

[@Super_GT]

Thanks very much, glad you like it.

[@tobyhobson6963]

what about with VR and wheel have u tried that??

[@Wafflecombo54]

@@tobyhobson6963 VR is fun but I'm not really gonna use it. Plus VR is already expensive enough. But no I haven't tried it.

[@tobyhobson6963]

@@Wafflecombo54 ok cheers!!

[@timothyoswald8618]

I have played every GT at launch except for the PSP version, and FINALLY got a wheel last week after 23 or so years of wanting one. It's a different world. A beautiful world. Now, if only I had GT7 rather than sport to play...

[@DavidRSAT]

I was cheering on the DS4 but then... *TIRE WEAR*

[@EricVellekoop]

*dramatic war horn sounds intensifies*

[@tarnishedchosenundead]

Kinda late to this, but the biggest difference is that with a wheel you can easily fix mistakes because you have an actual feedback from a car. With a controller, you need a lot of experience so you can predict what is going to happen and how the car is going to react in certain situations.

[@grahamh9788]

I feel like the controller might be more nimble because you can turn to the left/right extremes as fast as the game will allow basically, but you lose a lot of control and presiceness. I also believe the wheel is more fun, more of a challenge, and capable of being faster with practice.

[@jamiewellington6208]

Everytime I check your subs lately it jumps by the thousands. So glad to see you grow. Been here since about 40k. Big ups super gt

[@emilwinbo1882]

on a game like GT sport you'd expect the pad to have similar pace to the wheel, but it is a lot harder to be smooth on the controls with a pad vs the wheel

[@Trevisio]

Brilliant analysis and entertainingly delivered. PD did a great job equalising the 2 devices, then put tyre wear in and that’s ruined it for DS4 users. At least there isn’t any tyre wear in Daily race B and some FIA nations events. But every manufacturers FIA race isn’t equal as they all have high tyre wear.

[@Super_GT]

Thanks Trev. I was always aware that tyre wear was worse on the pad but was really surprised by just how much! You don't really stand a chance in FIA races on the pad.

[@harrisonatkinson7595]

For me, it 100% comes down to how much fun I have. That’s why I use a wheel with a lot of force feedback because it’s so fun!

[@fernandovieira8479]

Harrison Atkinson be careful to not overpower it. It will get hot and it might bring damage to it. I would rather have a smooth more detailed feedback from my wheel than making it clip, damage it or even get hurt myself. I was like you before but now i use force and sensitivity at 2 on a t300. Way more detailed feedback and strong enough.. default settings were damaging my wheel in the long run

[@RS-nq8xk]

@@fernandovieira8479 So they can increase the frequency of buying new wheels

[@fernandovieira8479]

RS 390 that is catalyst for more sales eventually but it’s not their fault. Games support multiple wheels from multiple manufactures and some wheels are good at default settings and some aren’t. I have a limited budget so I like to make my things last a while although I like conspiracy talks I don’t think that’s the case here.

[@InTheZone85]

I have my feedback fairly high and set the fan to always on. With the fan on auto it would soften up after an hour or so, with it always on I can go as long as I like and feedback remains the same, also assuming the room isn't warm.

[@spiralmoment]

@@fernandovieira8479 that's not a problem with a dd wheel and probably not with the biggest of fanatecs belt driven wheels either. it makes no sense to have massive ffb unless youre trying to emulate old f1 cars or something though, it just kills your neck, and your wrists when hitting curbs and crashing.

[@mobyrne1970]

All these years and I've never known that eating an Easter egg was the answer to life's woes. Awesome life hack.......thank you. Oh and great video as ever.

[@Super_GT]

Many thanks! Yes, stock up on your easter eggs mate, they solve everything

[@barra333]

Long time controller user here - I expected the tyre wear thing, and in my experience tracks with long corners are brutal on controller users too. Back in GT5 days there was a huge difference at High Speed Ring between wheel and controller users. Nurb GP is pretty good, but I bet there are tracks in game that would show a big difference between the two.

[@evanquigley8964]

Also long time controller user here, can confirm, long sweepers suck to hold that stick in just the right spot

[@audiokyle]

When I switched to the wheel, it took a week to get back to being fast, and longer to get faster. It’s just different. I’m so glad you switched over. I may move up to the next level wheel based on your experience. I’m on a g29, and they are great, but I love the look o yours.

[@nivmani1103]

Ah remember the days where the throttle and brake control depended on the X and O button. Savage days. Only 90s babies will remember.

[@InTheZone85]

You could still use the analog sticks

[@ObsessionTheCat]

That is the only real way to play racing games since ps1 days. Never used anything else. Even skipped some racing games where you could not use X as throttle.

[@felixrosa8580]

I still use that way !!!

[@BadgerOff32]

I remember. I also remember squeezing the X button harder and harder in the vain hope that it would make me go faster lol (it didn't)

[@MarcusLindblomSonestedt78]

The analog top buttons were awesome on the ps2, crap on the ps3 and gone on ps4. Had to learn to drive with triggers for gt sport.

[@pineappleracing6547]

WOW! Porsche 911 RSR on Nürbürgring GP is also my favourite combination.

[@iliovecaRS]

Mate you have 1000 hours of gameplay with a controller and 10 with a wheel lol

[@brnrubber303]

Just because he just now got the fanatec setup does not mean this is the first time he's used a wheel.

[@GiantEffnDonkey]

I believe he races in real life too

[@alexsupertramp4907]

He probably got like 40 hours on the wheel

[@loganm2766]

At least he didnt make the comparison the day he got the wheel.

[@Iggsy81]

he has been doing karting for years

[@projecticeman5142]

Tbh I don't think I've ever liked a youtube video before, until now after you said 'smashing that like button' with a zoomed in blink and head jolt plus graphic and gunshot lol, it s**t me up the first time lol, but replayed it atleast 5 times after, excellent work Super GT.

[@Super_GT]

Many thanks for your first ever like!!

[@JimmyMakingitwork]

Super GT, “i’m faster with a controller.” Fanatec: “Check out our new load cell controller, only $1495.99.”

[@oliverkalasch6697]

Thanks man! You definitely deserve that egg! I’m thinking about buying a wheel for a long time so that’s great consumer advice. I would love to see a GT sport first person camera video and your opinion on that ...

[@kaitoanderson2845]

I’ve always been tempted for a wheel. But I don’t really have enough space for a rig. Anyway I have plenty of fun on the controller and I am still decently fast. But thanks for this video it’s helpful and enjoyable analytical 👍

[@joda3615]

You can always mount the wheel onto your table so it consumes basically no space

[@bjarnis]

If you want the full experience you should get a full rig, but make sure it's solid so your wheel can stand still.

[@kaitoanderson2845]

Thing is I have a coffee table in front of my tv. Which I play all my games on. But the coffee table is not nearly high enough and is very heavy meaning it would be a pain to move out of the way every time. And like Bjarne said it’s better to have a fully developed rug which is made out of metal or even wood. So I’ll just stick to my controller, any way I have plenty of fun on it. But thanks for the advice from both of you :)

[@bjarnis]

The most important thing is that you have fun Kaito :)

[@kaitoanderson2845]

Thanks mate

[@vagabondgamur1279]

Great vid. I dont think anyone else went as far as compare tire wire. They always compare lap times with no affects.

[@steelvenom330]

Neither. It's obviously best when played with a Guitar Hero controller

[@TheSweetswed]

Just found your channel when i got back into GT at christmas and now def thinking about getting a wheel after watching a ton of your vids.

[@ognjens22able]

The century old question

[@Daaaake]

That was a great display of how much smoother the wheel is overall, and also of the overall effects of tire wear.

[@mclovin2nd219]

Will you be doing this for forza 7? Love the content

[@Billyfulu]

Forza is sick difficult with a wheel

[@elerius2]

I would like to see that too. I play forza with a wheel (on PC), and find it impossible with a controller, but I understand that most top lap times are set by controller users. I'd be curious to see a comparison by someone who is actually good.

[@quintenbronsveld6501]

@@elerius2 im also playing with the wheel on PC🙌🏻

[@mclovin2nd219]

Mark Pflug that’s my issue. I have only played forza 7 for about two weeks on Xbox one. Normally I’ve played FH4 so it’s a huge difference either way. Always wanted a wheel though just don’t want to buy something that expensive if it’s not going to at least be competitive

[@elerius2]

@@mclovin2nd219I prefer motorsport over horizon. FH has always felt so arcade-y to me that it just isn't interesting. More akin to Mario-kart than a sim. FM7 has improved a lot recently with a wheel since they updated the force feedback system. It used to be almost impossible to recover from loss of control with a wheel, now it feels much more intuitive. I totally understand not wanting to buy a wheel. I'd love to try GT Sport, but I don't have a PS4 and even if I did my wheel (G920) wouldn't be compatible, so I'd be out many hundreds of dollars to be where I am with FM7. Wish the GT franchise was on PC (master race).

[@D_M_Wolfe]

I had no doubt that the wheel was going to be more beneficial in the long run. It is the most natural way of controlling a car after all. This video confirmed it. Super GT, thank you so much for the hours of entertainment and also for making this video. Keep up the good work mate.

[@fordgalaxiefanclub7733]

wheel and controller are obviously different when it comes to driving style. but they both serve different purposes, the controller is for casual gamers (usually not car enthusiasts) while the wheel requires more dedication considering prices.

[@humanguillotine5615]

raw controller input would make driving impossible. The game has hidden assists when using a controller that are disabled when using a wheel.

[@fordgalaxiefanclub7733]

not necessarily... when I feel like it I use my controller instead of my rig and with practise, I can play the game with practically no assists on (that is I have abs and racing line on) @@humanguillotine5615

[@Scuba1Steve]

A real car enthusiast is out driving there actual car that they are "enthused" with. Not in some sweaty room pretending to drive. (IRL conversation) What do you drive man? "I just downloaded a 200sx got it tuned by Sir-flappy-LIPS_69 he's got the best tunes.... she's a real beauty, chameleon candy apple paint, 30psi boost pushing around 800 hp, I weight reductioed the car to the 4th level so you know she's as light as a feather now bro! Lol huh? no, no,no What do you actually drive in real life? "Oh a 2010 Toyota Yaris".

[@fordgalaxiefanclub7733]

@@Scuba1Steve what if your not old enough to drive, or cant drive a crazy race car, or you cant afford a fun car, or the weather in your country is bad.... common man fix a point properly

[@fordgalaxiefanclub7733]

@@thekenmatax18 wow... that's very hypocritical of the people that are less privileged then you, very disrespectful of you.

[@akaDOOD]

I’ve been saying it for months. There are many people on the controller who have broken into top 5 on leaderboards and I can only get top 10 on a wheel. The reason you see more wheels on the top is NOT because the wheel is better but because the people who generally put the most time and dedication into the game are using a wheel, but if you put the same amount of time in on the controller you will be equally as good if not better. I know someone who races karts in real life who is actually faster on pad than he is on his wheel which I find pretty hilarious

[@Super_GT]

I still don't agree. If you put an equal amount of time/dedication into both, the wheel trumps the controller. You can also see with the tyre wear test that controller users can't compete on that front. That alone is a massive win for the wheel.

[@akaDOOD]

Super GT tire wear is not something I’ve taken into account seeing as I myself have not raced with those settings very much recently. But I agree nonetheless. However lap time wise I feel as though wheel and controller are much closer than most people would like to believe

[@Super_GT]

It's definitely close on pure laptime. When tyre wear is taken away, it's almost identical I would say (assuming the same player with the same time put in to both methods)

[@IWLDELJ]

High quality video, but I submit that you missed a couple major point here. Wheels do wonders for immersion, therefore enjoyment for many people, and more importantly, the muscle memory from a wheel translates much more directly to real life than a controller. In terms of sheer performance in the game, I think you covered everything, but the broad question "which is better?" I think should have included some other factors. Maybe not. Just my two cents. For anyone interested, I am trying to gather clean racers in Forza Motorsport 7 so toward that end, I'm planning on holding a small cash prize tournament (Fifty USD total prize purse with fewer than sixteen competitors, a hundred USD with sixteen qualifiers) sometime in the indefinite near future. Anyone interested can reply here and we can try to link up somewhere somehow and chit chat.

[@Super_GT]

Sure thing. The word better is open to interpretation but in this case we simply mean speed in the game.

[@Joey_Tempest]

Fascinating insight into a question that we’ve probably all been asking a lot. The wheel is the dream for me. If I had the space I’d never be off GT sport.

[@treerexaudi]

Personally I think a wheel is much better for fine tuning your racing line and keeping things precise and is much more professional over all with a similar feel to real life. A controller how ever if easier to correct if things go wrong.

[@Super_GT]

Interesting note about the controller. I found it slightly harder on the controller although it does depend exactly what kind of slide I guess.

[@treerexaudi]

fair argument @@Super_GT

[@Flowermouth]

The thing is with controller, 100% of lateral input, controller assists means that you instantly reach the limit of the tyres, if you find the perfect line, it's very easy to be extremely quick. Wheel means you have to search for it yourself, but you have way more granular control over throttle brake and steering inputs. Generally I'm way more consistent with a wheel but I can be equally quick with controller.

[@treerexaudi]

makes sense @@Flowermouth

[@davidoh709]

I drive on a controller, and this is the most useful comparison on youtube ever. Thanks super gt!

[@juraj_b]

Can you do a similar comparison for us, Forza enthusiasts please? :)

[@jfhall]

Juraj Benak i know a lot of people say Forza isn’t built for a wheel but I play with one (not well but that’s true with a controller also!). I would love to se a comparison also from someone who doesn’t stink like I do.

[@Dragonite146]

This is a really good comparison video, well done mate, it’s good to see something like this as I’ve really only just started using wheel myself and it’s good to see what the difference is like with certain circumstances, well done

[@luca920]

Good luck driving a formula 1 car without TC and ABS with a controller. Here are quotes from the new F1 regulations: "Anti-lock braking systems (ABS) are not allowed - brake pressure must be controlled by the driver’s physical input only and not by any other system." and "Transmissions may not feature traction control systems, nor devices that help the driver to hold the clutch at a specific point to aid getaway at the start of the race." good luck.

[@KillaBean416]

I’ll miss your chase cam videos tho . That’s what made your channel unique from other racing channels

[@iiPolaris]

Controller peasant for life tbh

[@Walamonga1313]

Launch the Polaris! The end doesn't scare us! When will this cease? Warheads will all rust in peace

[@BubbleDouble]

*laughs in keyboard*

[@iiPolaris]

Bubble Double you aren’t deoxide or isuckatdriving who r u

[@glenwaldrop8166]

Re: tire wear, play cockpit view on the controller so you can see the wheel position. You'll find you're turning the wheel too far, sliding the front end. You do this a bit in racing, but not to the degree that you do with the controller from another camera angle.

[@MarcusLindblomSonestedt78]

True. You're often faster turning 80% rather than 100% on the controller. That's probably what causes the tyre wear. I wonder if it can be mitigated by the game or if I just have to git gud. 🙄

[@glenwaldrop8166]

Speed sensitive steering helps but it isn't a magic bullet. I watch the wheel as I race, helps tons. Typically the best way is to slow down a bit or just tune the suspension for a tad of oversteer. If it's set right and you're going the right speed you won't understeer and eat the front tires. I tune my cars to oversteer slightly under power, so low power is no sliding, mid to high power is oversteer depending on the curve. Keeps from eating the front tires as with the controller it seems *most* of your steering is controlled with throttle. There's almost no way to make the steering a fixed ratio with a controller.

[@SH3RIFF187]

At least you got to eat chocolate so it's all good.

[@adamthompson6669]

Will be watching when I get home from work thank you so much super gt

[@Midaspl]

I use keyboard and is superior to both!

[@jbaker88]

PC MASTER RACE!

[@Rapid_GT]

Total Immersion said no-one ever 2019 😂 I couldn't think of a more boring way to race using a keyboard!

[@StreetDreamzTT]

Nice test man. Always loved racing games since nes and windows 98 days. Never committed to spending on a wheel but this shows you can still be a good racer with a controller.

[@pauldzim]

Next video: "Sex or Masturbation - Which is Better?"

[@MrMjwilliams2008]

Good vid for us controller racers on the fence about moving to a wheel. I concur in your assessment.

[@illewmenadeh722]

Lets keep the dislikes at 0 **Edit: Mission failed**

[@Sambysaurus]

Oh well... You tried.

[@joshuabenson2568]

you fuccin knobheads

[@theoxne3166]

this is why we cant have nice things

[@samravenm1374]

It was too tempting

[@TheFranssiBrother]

It still shows 0 dislikes for me. Alright which of you admit calling to youtube to remove the dislikes?

[@Blight-fp3vt]

You REALLY need to try gyro steering. When you get used to it while resting you arms in your lap, its extremely good even for longer races.

[@scottd7222]

I'm in love with the motion steering. I feel like people sleep on it heavy

[@markdenyer8072]

Very interesting. Never would have thought it would affect the tyres differently.

[@kirkwalker8396]

Definitely more of this type of video I remember your best A class car vid back in forza 6 got me watching this channel

[@TheTrissieboy]

I think if you would use the wheel the same amout of hours as you did on the controller that the diffrence will greater :) Good video man!! Love your content :*

[@EvostarSC]

I helped a customer with nearly 800 dollars in fraud at my bank, but now I've smashed that like button. Now my honest day's work is complete.

[@Super_GT]

Good work on both!!

[@hateonnate8098]

From what I have seen and being an avid racing game player, the wheel and pedals offer more sensitivity vs the limited range of motion in the joysticks and triggers thus giving you the player just that little bit more control over braking turning and acceleration this results in the tire wear difference super GT has shown

[@utg001]

should have also compared the variation in lap times in first test. I used the last 8 laps to calculate standard deviation and found that the Wheel SD = 0.2487 Controller SD = 0.2795 Which basically means controller is slightly less consistent than the wheel

[@Super_GT]

I did mention that the controller was less consistent but didn't quite go to your level of detail of course.

[@McRay2001]

I'm playing racing games with a wheel since 20 years already. The first force feedback wheel I've bought was a Saitec with the old Joystick port on the soundcard. It felt impressive and I've beaten every one who was playing with Pad, Keyboard or even analog Joysticks. Especially in Colin McRae Rally 1. :-) I'll never forget this feeling. But I also had a PS1 with Gran Turismo and there was no wheel. After that the PS2 came out and GT4 was the best game ever with wheel support for the Logitech G25. It was a dream came true.

[@EERIEISSSS]

That editing... Bravo!!

[@yannikbaltes3552]

I dont know how many time u spend with the wheel yet, but i can tell you: If u spend same time with wheel and controller, the wheel will be faster and more consistent. Its just a matter of precice input of steering aswell as throttle and brake. But it will take time, and it will take lots of it, thats for sure. If u think just buyin a wheel will make you way faster, thats sadly not the case.

[@kabudas9157]

This guy did 20 perfect laps. Amazing

[@topfuel1970]

Great Video as always Super GT! I know people say that FM7 is a controller game but I'd like to see Super GT make the same video comparison in FM7. What do you all think?

[@S7ev3n_]

It's not that the wheel is smoother, it's more precise because it has a larger range of motion, which makes it easier to be consistent and faster. That is also why the wheel get less tire wear by allowing you to prevent tire scrubbing (turning the front wheels beyond the point of lateral grip causing them to slide/scrub slightly across the pavement). When on controller, if you push the joystick all the way to one side it does cause a little bit of tire scrub in every corner. You can tell how bad the tires scrub in corners by how loud the tires are screeching. It's easier to tell this by turing up the tire volume.

[@Sev826]

Interesting, the difference with tyres is staggering! Great video mate. I just ordered my wheel, so i'll be doing the same journey

[@Setrany]

I think no tirewear benefits the controller largely. Wheel shines when you have an unstable car, because it requires far lesscorrection, and thus uses less tire and less fuel when correcting.

[@sportbikejesus]

First. it’s amazing how smooth you are with a controller. So many controller users wiggle the cars and it’s irritating to see. (I’m not talking about the poor connection phenomenon - that looks even worse) If you use a wheel, you’re driving a sim. If you use a controller, you’re playing a video game. You may be fast but it’s as lifelike as Mario is for jumps and hammer swings.

[@stephendee7839]

I think you should have done this experiment on a track that you are familiar with but with cars that have difficult handling charcterisrics to emphasise how much easier it is to manage challenging driving conditions with the wheel.

[@xXxGamingaddictxXx]

Nice video GT. Noone did this before. I glad I watched it. Thanks for the hard work m8

[@neonpop80]

I use the motion controls on my controller. It’s accurate and mimics the wheel more so than the sticks. I think all driving games should have this feature

[@scottd7222]

100 percent

[@kgriffi22222]

I like the wheel for control on tarmac but I find I am more consistent with the controller on dirt/rally events. Maybe it is just me as GT Sport was my first time using a wheel at all. Great video, Super GT

[@lipeprusch]

To be honest, aside from all the positives of a wheel, I just want one because of the pain I feel in my fingers using the DS4. I feel it would be much more comfortable to use a wheel for long sessions and few people talk about that.

[@hyperlemongt4890]

Youre very good on a controller. I used to race with a wheel, and switched to a controller (i moved countries and couldnt take my wheel) and im 4 seconds off my wheel pace.

[@Kysen10]

Really good test

[@Milehupen]

Ive always respected that youd stick to the controller. I used to see those hotlaps you set in gts and thought: "you dont need a wheel setup if this guy can set those times with a controller"

[@Y0urricane]

11:52 You can clearly see that on stream guys who told "Push throttle harder" weren't joking. You'd set your pedals properly. On straights you sometimes have only 90-95% of throttle, so loosing time.

[@mathewboyd903]

I really love you videos mate, they are amazing.

[@Lien6887]

For me it's most noticeable when driving cars that are insanely prone to understeering at even the slightest turn. A lot easier to control with a wheel. Also recovering a vehicle you've lost control of is much much easier with a wheel for me at least