When Football Clubs Are Owned by Fans | The German 50+1 Rule Explained

[@Fiago]

Can anyone tell how many times I said club in this video? 😂

[@roccocarbone5967]

65 times lmao

[@santhos9483]

@@roccocarbone5967 69 times

[@maksik_1204]

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[@utkarshbhatnagar9106]

Amazing video Fiago, I being a Bayern fan never knew so much in details about the 50+1 rule and now I can make sense why the fans protested against Dietmar Hopp in the game against Hoffenheim

[@chrisfraser5088]

Great explanation, Fiago! Keep up the good work, my friend!

[@Fiago]

Thanks bro!

[@panagiotists2080]

It would be so good for the fans to see ex legends as board members

[@Fiago]

Yep 🙌

[@maksik_1204]

@@Fiago Not always tho, look at Bayern. Brazzo ruined Flick as a coach and the board who all played at Bayern didn't take his back.

[@riquelmista745]

Not everywhere tho, riquelme (boca's greatest legend) is a member of boca juniors' board and is highly criticized by the media and rival fans. It's never the manager's fault, the president fault, errors and criticizing is directed to riquelme

[@kastriotndoja7524]

@@maksik_1204 it was a power struggle and flick wasn't interested in it.and i think bayern members didn't interfere because they saw this as a win-win situation.germany gets a top coach and potentialy becomes a top national team again and bayern get a young and promising coach long term.

[@wjang5458]

this is so good... they really should implement this

[@brakechecked5743]

Do you know how it works in Portugal? You said it's something similar to the 50+1 rule but not exactly the same thing. Love the videos :)

[@Fiago]

Thanks bro appreciate it! To be completely honest I don‘t know all the details on this Portuguese model, many clubs there are majority fan owned but I‘m not 100% sure if it‘s a requirement!

[@Tiborg1973]

As an Eintracht Frankfurt fan i would never want to change the system we have here in the Bundesliga.50+1 is a must and should be implemented in the whole of Europe.I would never want an English style where you have this Holywood football,but the football created by the working class people has now became a playground for rich businessman for Arab countries and the USA.The ordinary fan is slowly pushed out of the stadiums and tourists and rich peoples kids are there now.The whole football over there in England is losing it's spirit and because of this the atmospheres in stadiums is just terrible and not even compareble to those in the Bundesliga.Cheers and greetings from Westerwald,Germany.

[@Hakuna65Matata]

We all hate Red Bull

[@stone_fc]

true

[@javibolso]

I’m a member of my team (Nacional from Uruguay) since 15th of September 2004, the day I was born.

[@abhayrathore5953]

Most informative football channel on KZbin

[@Fiago]

thx man!!

[@blacklightning7570]

Manchester United fans need to protest at every home game until the end of the season. Really need to get the government involved and do something about dem teafing glazers.

[@Fiago]

Yep 🙌

[@RyanGaming21]

I hope that man united dont lose points because of the protests

[@derekkatz2875]

Awesome channel Fiago :) Just subscribed. I really enjoyed your colab with tactical manager btw

[@Fiago]

Thanks for your support Derek :) glad you enjoyed the video

[@wjang5458]

the Bundesliga must control the amount of money charged to the fans so that all the clubs have a certain number of fans. If not, they will not be allowed into the league and will have to try to get new members. This also increases the exposure of football around the world.

[@jibugibson]

Thanks for the video, is it a right time for a club to take this at this point of time where it's a 3 year old and currently it's 100% owned by fans

[@dustinperez8248]

I just found out you have a youtube channel and loving your content! Here from TM TV ;)

[@Fiago]

Thanks Dustin appreciate that!!

[@Motorvegful]

Also Norway

[@Fiago]

Nice 🇳🇴

[@MsRuud55]

There are also clubs completely owned by their fans. All decisions are made by the fans. That's the true meaning of fanowned football. The German 50+ 1 rule is a good means to protect the name. shirt etc of the club. At Barcelona the fans can choose the president , usually the guy who promises to buy the best players. That has nothing to do with true fan ownership. Examples of fanowned clubs are AFC Wimbledon, FC United of Manchester , many Scottish clubs, , KSK Beveren and Lyra Lierse in Belgium, Austria Salzburg, HFC Falke in Hamburg , quite some Italian and Eastern European teams. There's a lively fanowned scene in Israel and even across the pond in the States. Not 50 +1 but 100%.

[@poisonpotato1]

Wouldnt outside investor just need a few fans to agree with them to get a majority vote. If its say its 100 fans. They vote and 2 people side with outside invester 2/100×50%+49.9999% > 50%

[@ivan2026]

Fiago what do you think of barcas way of running the club

[@Fiago]

Better than nothing for sure, but socios don‘t have much power either

[@nasrullahsylani]

Hey Fiago!!

[@Fiago]

Sup Nasrullah 👊

[@kiranbharati4458]

You know you have mastered german when you pronounce 8:32

[@Marco-zy5yv]

Beautiful shirt you are wearing 🇮🇹😍

[@ttnnnaa4500]

€30-60/year to be a member *laughs in RedBull*

[@user-vs8oz3go4n]

Mate never underestimate the power of € in Germany you say 20€ in nothing Well here in Greece people would kill for 20€

[@Fiago]

Of course, but €20 compared to other countries like England is still not much

[@mk9650]

20 ανά ματς

[@user-vs8oz3go4n]

@@mk9650 θα χα κάνει χαρακίρι 😂

[@mk9650]

@@user-vs8oz3go4n εδώ μαλακα στην ΑΕΛ βρίζουμε τον Κούγια που το πήγε 15 στη μεγάλη κερκίδα (Όχι την ακριβή την άλλη)

[@user-vs8oz3go4n]

@@mk9650 φαντάσου 😂

[@wjang5458]

Chelsea protested too

[@user-vs8oz3go4n]

50+1 rule can be very tricky it will probably ruin all the transfer drama and if you think about it that's why we don't get many transfer theories for German teams

[@Fiago]

What do you mean ruin all the transfer drama? 50+1 doesn't prohibit transfers lol

[@user-vs8oz3go4n]

@@Fiago since the investors of the club won't own the club it is sure that they will be more cheap providing less money to the clubs for transfers stadium upgrades and the rest for example Bayern Munich squad consists of players only from the Bundesliga except some of them basically young talents that they can work with and that's why we don't have any transfer drama from there imagine if that happens across all over the world football clubs will transform to football academies trading just young talents what do you think?

[@Fiago]

@@user-vs8oz3go4n I wouldn‘t have any problem with that, football doesn‘t need those ridiculous transfer dramas anyway, still it won‘t mean there won‘t be transfer dramas anymore. Bayern sign players for €80m too.

[@user-vs8oz3go4n]

@@Fiago I just don't want football to go back to when major part of the team was players from the same country of the league in my opinion if 50+1 has this result it is more of a setback than going forward (what do you think)

[@Fiago]

@@user-vs8oz3go4n It wouldn’t have this effect. Bundesliga has more foreigners than locals

[@mk9650]

Fiago laaaaad

[@Fiago]

🤝

[@OcEleven]

Fiago can you make on the rise, fall, rise, fall and rise again of Vfl Wolfsburg. One season they do good, then they are Jack shit.

[@Fiago]

Good one

[@OcEleven]

@@Fiago I remember when I started supporting Dortmund, Wolfsburg were a top team with KDB, Naldo, Draxler and many more. Then I dug up more info and I found out that they went from Champions, to almost being relegated in 2010-11, to again being a top team, to again being almost relegated in 17-18, to again being a top team.

[@RyanGaming21]

Does Barca follows 50+1 or does it just elect a new president ?

[@OcEleven]

The socios just elect the members.

[@paulbailey7747]

It’s not all teams in Germany

[@Fiago]

Watch the whole video first ;)

[@paulbailey7747]

Does the fans have a say on the players they sign

[@Fiago]

@@paulbailey7747 Not directly, but if the club signs bad players the fans can theoretically call for new elections

[@basel7897]

Nice

[@dimsum2014]

Pog

[@phenoixuche2077]

No it's doesn't become equal Clubs like man utd who generate massive revenues will be at great advantage And other clubs will depend on there scrappy revenue

[@OcEleven]

Mainz are bigger than Union Union rose to the 1st division under 50+1. Also, they were challenging for Europe until 2 matchdays ago (there is only 1 left so)

[@johnobimikel5076]

100th like🏓🎏🪑

[@TrymYoutubeMainChannel]

lol I wouldn't mind pay 30-60€ a year xD hopefully thats 30-60 and not in millions hah

[@Fiago]

It's obviously NOT in millions 😂

[@TrymYoutubeMainChannel]

@@Fiago lol sign me up x) "flexes with money" :P well cool it's a nice concept :) I am a Manchester United fan and they struggling with the stubborn owners who only care about themselfs and throws the manager under the bus

[@patibandlanikhil3101]

How are Spanish teams like Rma,Barcelona and Bilbao owned,is it 50+1 or completely owned by fans?

[@purushothaman6698]

Real Madrid, Barcelona, Athletic Bilbao and Osasuna are owned together by the Socios (members) whereas other clubs are public/private owned

[@patibandlanikhil3101]

@@purushothaman6698 so they are completely owned by fans(socios) right?

[@Fiago]

Yeah, similar to what the people above said: Barça, Real, Bilbao & Osasuna have the Socio System. Fully owned by their fans, but still those fans have almost no power other than electing the president every few years. During that period the board can pretty much decide it all themselves...so it’s not like 50+1

[@patibandlanikhil3101]

@@Fiago but I guess they have some power to bring down president as in case of bartomeu before his resignation there was movement to bring him down by collecting signatures

[@purushothaman6698]

@@patibandlanikhil3101 Socio run clubs are complex. Take Real Madrid for example, the Socios are regarded as owners but don't have much say in the decisions except for voting for President (no proper elections due to Perez) and board members (5% of the total Socios) who actually run the club. Also the club's aren't public like the German ones with 50+1 rule and 100% of the club is owned by the clubs. Sounds cool until you realise that shares can't be sold off in case of financial crisis. But at the same time Socio clubs come under the not-for-profit category which means the interest rates on loans are less than those for public clubs.

[@siutadru]

206th viewer

[@danielogsemen7874]

Thank god this is not implemented

[@Fiago]

It should be.

[@vereehdjj2078]

s1htty rule... bayern and this 50+1 rule ruin bundesliga

[@kartoffel44]

You have no Idea what you talking about.

[@stefanbrouwer459]

Lol you clearly didnt watch the video then if you dont understand how the 50+1 rule works xD