When Palpatine Decided to “Play” with Darth Vader [Canon]

When Palpatine showed his true nature to Darth Vader and began to sadistically play with him as a means of teaching him a lesson.
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[@alonsheffer8826]

I absolutely want to see you cover the next lssue .

[@kevinvassago]

Everyone should take the time to read this issue, it's the best Vader comic in years

[@Bobbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbbb]

Please cover the next issue

[@Jackal_El_Lobo34]

Palpatine is truly one of the biggest d*cks in the Galaxy. This form of torture and humiliation toward his apprentice was pure savage.

[@darthsidioussithmaster7077]

Hi lore master

[@prestynsanders1594]

The fact that sidious brought him back to mustafar just to burn him again is the coldest thing I think Sidious has ever done to Vader.

[@ainsleyharriot6060]

I felt so bad for him when I saw that

[@thegoldengamer9315]

That is just rubbing the salt and pain into the wound and teaching him that his failure still mattered.

[@neilmurphy966]

It's a rebirthing ritual lol

[@ImperialZorn686]

@@neilmurphy966 it won't change anything He will still be felling the same in ROTJ Lmao he will even kill palps Wow all of this is just pointless

[@thedukeoflegends1981]

@@ImperialZorn686 palpatine's arrogance in his vice grip over vader mind was his ultimate downfall.

[@corpyhogan4433]

Anakin truly was a slave his entire life

[@0585janz]

If he didn't let himself seduced by Palpatine, he wouldn't become a slave his entire life. He made a poor choice. Obi Wan tried his best to be his master but failed. If only Qui Gon Jin didn't die and he's the one who trained anakin, he would have a different life and might become a jedi master far beyond Master Yoda.

[@danielgodfrey4415]

We are all slaves in life.

[@SPACEHARICE]

Well his last 20 or so minutes was him being free

[@thunderstormgaming1994]

@@danielgodfrey4415 do you even know meaning of slave

[@danielgodfrey4415]

@@thunderstormgaming1994 there's the metaphoric meaning and there's the literal meaning of someone owning someone else. Example of metaphoric meaning. He was a slave to his job.

[@TetsuShima]

Vader's mind: "This torture can't be wors.." Obi-Wan's ghost: "Hello There"

[@davisdf3064]

General Kenobi!

[@NicoParasite]

Vader: "Still could be wors.." Obi-Wan's ghost: *throws sand at Vader*

[@davidhong1934]

Kenobi: Darth, you really look like you need some help. Would you, perhaps, like me to _lend you a hand?_ Vader: This is exactly why I tried to kill you, old man. Kenobi: Well, I at least have _a leg to stand on._ What do you have to stand on? Vader: ... Kenobi: You're a literal door mat, Darth. Not just in the "no arms and no legs kind of way. You never talk back, you never argue. You do whatever the good chancellor says with a smile on your face. Vader: I hate him. I hate you. Kenobi: Then why can't you fight back? Vader: ... Kenobi: Well? Vader: ...I..can't

[@cornbreadloverrr]

@@NicoParasite Jar Jar: Annie? ANNIE! MEESA MISSED YOU! Vader: *rolls into the lava*

[@tabulldog2743]

Reminds me of Jar-Jar's Force Ghost haunting Vader in Robot Chicken: Ghost Jar-Jar: "Ani, yousa never gonna believe it! Me all sparkly-glowy! Now we have all the time in the world to spend together!!!" Vader: *Incomparable frustration*

[@VNM-Venom252]

“I must obey my master” that line has a lot more weight added to it now.

[@koro1840]

@@jeffcarroll1990shock no, he wasn't program

[@plsdontbeahero]

@@koro1840 stfu

[@endtheworld1]

Racist

[@VNM-Venom252]

@@endtheworld1 Pardon?

[@michaelsantos8377]

@@VNM-Venom252 nice copied comment you got there.

[@94462]

It’s weird seeing such a terrifying figure like Vadar being manipulated, used and abused by someone else

[@lamaahruloma4270]

It's quite common also in the real life. I knew how one of the most menacing man (big, tall, muscular with one of the most feared professions, who killed a lot of people in a certain dark time of my country) was for all his adult life tortured by someone close to him and looking innocent, small and fragile. The person knew where to hurt him and learnt how to manipulate him. It's longer story and ended in a tragic way. From my profession I know several such cases, but I can't share any details there. But sometimes the strong people in dominant role in the society with scary look are victims by someone unexpected like kind old senator from Naboo. At least Anakin didn't experience it from Padmé - in this area we humans have achieved a lot of equality between genders.

[@tsunamifoxy]

There's always a bigger Brute!

[@DiegoTheRebel]

When you think about it, that's how his entire life is. Always a slave

[@pinstripecool34]

Shows just how powerful Palpatine really is.

[@D00DM00D]

There's always a bigger fish

[@JohnSmith-rb5iv]

Palpatine: Am bored *stares and grins at vader* Vader: Why am I still here just to suffer

[@acryliks9666]

"Why do I hear boss music?"

[@shipslovetosink]

Every night, I feel my legs, and my arms, and my- (force lightning)

[@thesuddendemise7735]

@@shipslovetosink Correction “My nothing”*

[@SuperBC1975]

"When Palpatine Decided to “Play” with Darth Vader." Jigsaw Palpatine: "I want to play a game."

[@whoareyou98]

Jigsaw: GAME OVER.

[@shinobi_warlord7187]

lel

[@rippl5620]

How about I take your liver for 2 kidneys?

[@JacobGen]

Whip out that crispy man meat.

[@maxinefinnfoxen]

"Playing" with each other? Darth Vader's the submissive one~

[@OwnedByOmen]

Vader: *gets force choked* Palpatine: "Its ironic"

[@MercifulSunny]

I read this in his voice and it’s perfect.

[@jesusisgod2953]

The time is fulfilled, and the kingdom of God is at hand: REPENT YE, AND BELIEVE THE GOSPEL. THE GOSPEL (which means the Good News) is the news that God Almighty, the Creator came in the flesh as Jesus Christ to take away the sin of the world. He gave up his own life to save ours. His sacrifice on the cross paid the price for our redemption with his own blood. On the third day he rose from dead and offers the gift of salvation and forgiveness to those that repent and trust in him. John 1:1,14 In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. [14] And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and dwelt among us, Isaiah 9:6 KJV For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. John 1:10 He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and THE WORLD KNEW HIM NOT. John 20:28-29 And Thomas answered and said unto him, MY LORD AND MY GOD. [29] Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Are you saved friend? If you died tonight will you go to heaven or hell? Acts 16:30-31 ...what must I do to be saved? And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house. 1 John 1:8-10 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. [9] If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us our sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. [10] If we say that we have not sinned, we make him a liar, and his word is not in us. Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be preached in his name among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem. Acts 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Z2XckIl_f5eNmK8

[@pinstripecool34]

Lol

[@2_OP]

@@jesusisgod2953 at least get the facts right, even Christianity doesn't say Jesus is God lmao

[@jesusisgod2953]

@@2_OP The irony, you don't know the facts.The Son of God is God. The one God is triune, a trinity of the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit. The whole Bible testifies of Jesus being God. John 1:1-3,14 KJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [14] And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and DWELT AMONG US. John 1:10 KJV HE WAS IN THE WORLD, and THE WORLD WAS MADE BY HIM, and the world knew him not. Acts 20:28 KJV Take heed therefore to yourselves, and to all the flock, over the which the Holy Ghost have made you overseers, to feed the church of God, which he hath purchased with his OWN BLOOD. Matthew 1:23 KJV Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being interpreted is, GOD WITH US. Isaiah 9:6 KJV For to us a child is born, to us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, THE MIGHTY GOD, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Isaiah 40:3 KJV The voice of him that cries in the wilderness, Prepare you the way of the Lord, make straight in the desert a highway for OUR GOD. Isaiah 44:6 KJV Thus says the Lord the King of Israel, and his redeemer the Lord of hosts; I AM the first, and I AM THE LAST; and BESIDE ME THERE IS NO GOD. Revelation 1:17-18 KJV And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying to me, Fear not; I AM THE FIRST AND THE LAST: [18] I am he that lives, and WAS DEAD; and, behold, I am alive for evermore, Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death. Revelation 1:8 KJV I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, says the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty. Revelation 22:12-13,20-21 KJV And, behold, I come quickly; and my reward is with me, to give every man according as his work shall be. [13] I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end, the first and the last. [20] He which testifies these things says, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, COME, LORD JESUS. [21] The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen. Hebrews 1:8-12 KJV But to THE SON he saith, your throne, O GOD, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. [9] You have loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even your God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [10] And, you, Lord, in the beginning have laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of your hands: [11] They shall perish; but you remain; and they all shall wax old as does a garment; [12] And as a vesture shall you fold them up, and they shall be changed: but you are the same, and your years shall not fail. Exodus 3:14 KJV And God said to Moses, I AM THAT I AM: and he said, Thus shall you say to the children of Israel, I AM has sent me to you. John 8:57-59 KJV Then said the Jews to him, you are not yet fifty years old, and have you seen Abraham? [58] Jesus said to them, truly, truly, I say to you, Before Abraham was, I AM. [59] Then took they up stones to cast at him: but Jesus hid himself, and went out of the temple, going through the midst of them, and so passed by. TO RECAP John 1:1-3,14 KJV In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and THE WORD WAS GOD. [2] The same was in the beginning with God. [3] ALL THINGS WERE MADE BY HIM; and without him was not any thing made that was made. [14] And THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH, and DWELT AMONG US, 1. The Word was with God 2. The Word was God 3. The Word made all things 4. The Word (God) was made flesh SO GOD CAME IN THE FLESH. THE ONE THAT DENIES GOD (JESUS) CAME IN THE FLESH IS ANTICHRIST 1 John 4:3 KJV And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is COME IN THE FLESH in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world. John 1:10 KJV He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not. JESUS IS GOD AS THOMAS CONFESSED AND JESUS BLESSED John 20:28-29 KJV And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. [29] Jesus saith unto him, Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed. Hebrews 1:8-12 KJV But unto the Son he saith, Thy throne, O God, is for ever and ever: a sceptre of righteousness is the sceptre of thy kingdom. [9] Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows. [10] And, Thou, Lord, in the beginning hast laid the foundation of the earth; and the heavens are the works of thine hands: [11] They shall perish; but thou remainest; and they all shall wax old as doth a garment; [12] And as a vesture shalt thou fold them up, and they shall be changed: but thou art the same, and thy years shall not fail. Psalm 102:25-27 KJV Of old hast thou laid the foundation of the earth: and the heavens are the work of thy hands. [26] They shall perish, but thou shalt endure: yea, all of them shall wax old like a garment; as a vesture shalt thou change them, and they shall be changed: [27] But thou art the same, and thy years shall have no end.

[@medalgear654]

this makes Palpatine's death all the more satisfying when Vader finally turned on him.

[@freiza79]

Amen!!!! Palpatine is so very wicked. They should have him in cobra kai.

[@bbp2930]

@@freiza79 *cough* *cough* Kreese

[@michaelsantos8377]

Nice copied comment you got there.

[@cerealmilk1803]

@@michaelsantos8377 your parents hate you huh

[@spongeboi.offical3901]

and how infuriating it was when disney needed that money

[@TetsuShima]

Vader: "Yo can do whathever you want, Master. I will never forget my Padmé" Sidious: "Well. I always thought that your suit needed a bit of...sand" Vader: "I don't know that b*tch"

[@thegoldengamer9315]

Bruh

[@TheCman5015PLPro]

Have you ever heard the tale of Darth Sand the wise?

[@JohnSmith-rb5iv]

Lmao XD

[@maxinefinnfoxen]

Send him to tatooine x)

[@mrpenis6969]

This really makes you feel so bad for vader even more, trying to save his wife just to go through these 20 years of pain and suffering

[@BattleshipAgincourt]

I for one don't feel bad for a monster trying to murder his wife... and then going on to destroy everything she valued. What's there to feel bad about? That Vader didn't actually love his wife to begin with?

[@ImperialZorn686]

Watching him in the empire strikes back will never feel the same

[@ariffarzmi5560]

@@BattleshipAgincourt Vader initially fell to the dark side over his feelings of love for Padme and wanting to save her. But he was eventually tempted by the dark side which twisted his emotions. Even after realising what he had done, it's not like he could just easily step away and betray Palpatine given how tight a grip he had on him. As shown in the video.

[@tabulldog2743]

I don’t. The guy killed children, attempted to murder his best friend, nearly murdered his wife and unborn child, and has spent decades serving a man whilst committing untold amounts of atrocities that further destroyed all his wife cared about. I laughed long and loud when he got choked like he choked his victims. Big difference between a car crash and an asshole getting hit by a bus.

[@jamesthedragon]

Ture 😔

[@SIR_ALEX_FERGUSON]

I love how the Royal Guards attack Vader without a bit of hesitation; They know no fear.

[@user-pd8hf9dz8j]

This is a life lesson. Dont let anyone use you

[@generaliv8658]

2:38 That is probably one of the best parts of this comic, as Palpatine forces Vader to feel what all of them felt, from Padmé to Captain Needa. Brilliant.

[@englishlady9797]

He wasn't doing it to make him feel sympathy or identify with them. He was doing it because he could, just for the pure sadistic pleasure. Vader on the other hand almost never killed for the sake of it, he usually did so to punish failure (which was literally following Palpatine's teachings) achieving an objective in a mission for the Emperor, or to defend himself when attacked. This was a classic Palpatine move: using a person's strengths against them.

[@generaliv8658]

@@englishlady9797 I never said that he was doing it to make Vader feel "sympathy" towards them. I only said that Vader was forced to experience what they felt.

[@thesuddendemise7735]

@@englishlady9797 Aside for that one officer he murdered for being to good at his job.

[@flyinglions2223]

I don’t know if it’s just me but Vader doesn’t look evil in this comic, you can almost see Anakins face under his mask

[@Yokai_Yuri]

yeah that is the point. He was struggling to be in the dark side of the force and was pulled towards the light albeit not fully.

[@l750z_6]

What do you mean you can see anakin under the mask? The mask is totally black, you can’t see through it, I’m not sure what you mean

[@arbyw.1889]

@@l750z_6 it's a metaphor. They meant that you see less of the Sith Lord Darth Vader and more of the man Anakin Skywalker. The man that was lost to the dark side comes back out when he confronts his past.

[@RexOlafusVidulusMagnus]

@@l750z_6 sry but you're a dumba$$

[@bandolero7970]

@@l750z_6 omg you're so obtuse

[@ainsleyharriot6060]

Really puts it in perspective when Vader told Luke he must obey his master

[@cherrypoptart2001]

The fact that palpatine can just force choke vader through his force barrier literally shows just how powerful he is.

[@syntheticbruh6903]

Reminds me of Qui-Gon's line in TPM: "There's always a bigger fish."

[@irvinmorales1409]

Palpatine is awesome when he isn't frying himself with his own lightning.

[@scerkann3966]

He wasn't focused his suit is probably malfunctioning which meant he probably didn't focus fully on defending himself and passive force barriers are almost nonexistent in canon and he was caught off guard. Vader has gotten weak and was conflicted which was noted by palpatin, Vader force chocked and pinned palpatine to a wall in the 2017 comics. The star wars story group noted that a fight between would be toss up. Palpatine>=Vader. V

[@Drawnartist]

Your knowledge of force barriers shows your a reader of books.... most impressive

[@medalgear654]

if only Vader reached his true potential he would've killed palatine

[@wut-dah_7212]

All the while he's probably thinking: "This is the man I gave everything up for." Pretty hefty revelation. Now I want a Vader movie depicting all of this in live action. Or better yet even TCW animation.

[@stephenlutz6936]

That probably is one long list Palpatine has of playing and manipulating people

[@kikimora4349]

Perhaps

[@neilmurphy966]

Yeh starting with his family and Darth Plagueis 😆

[@killer2434]

List: everyone in the whole SW universe

[@neilmurphy966]

The Force itself manipulated Sidious to his downfall too..lol

[@life_is_a_myth]

But... Betrayal is the way of the Sith...

[@Jackal_El_Lobo34]

I always wondered why Vader was so submissive to the Emperor and conflicted in ROTJ given that he was completely ruthless and was scheming to kill Sidious in the TESB. This comic certainly answered my question and it’s truly tragic.

[@gavinisdie]

I'm surprised Vader didn't just start crying

[@Scoobydude-qp5mt]

Even though it's the way of the sith to betray each other

[@colbyjones7816]

@@gavinisdie I’m pretty sure the lava in Mustafar burned away his tear ducts.

[@rickblaine9670]

Personally, I don’t think we needed such an open showing of Palpatine’s cruelty. The power he and the Dark Side hold over Vader was implied to be much more subtle, although equally terrifying.

[@w1ndgeneral226]

Sidious: I'm bored, I want someone to torture. Vader: *WHY ME?!?!*

[@GTA2SWcity]

Like captain Flynn on borderlands 2.

[@juanlaise1059]

"It has always been you"

[@richardwhite8276]

@@GTA2SWcity ahh I see your a man of culture

[@jacobpeterson4071]

"Cause everyone else dies too fast"

[@fridaynightnicktoons6885]

"iF yOu ThInK aBoUt It ThE jEdI aRe ThE rEaL vIlLaIns!"

[@DarthWall275]

I like to think the two Death Troopers Palpatine has with him when he drops Vader on Mustafar, are the very same Clone Troopers he had with him when he first found Anakin in Episode 3. There's no basis for this, but that's my head Canon.

[@trekstarsam2494]

The thing that most impresses me is the utter respect that Palpatine has for Mas Amedda. Someone not force sensitive, not sith, no knowledge of the dark side or anything but yet Palpatine takes him to his confidence and discusses EVERYTHING with him, even about how much DV has failed and how, and would use him to help "discipline" Vader! Amedda remained approx 40 years under Palpatine... first as Vice Chair, and then Grand Vizier, knew Palpatine was a Sith Lord and never angered or failed his master to the point of Palpatine ever wanting to eliminate him. Amedda knew the evil he was capable of, and yet was extremely loyal, and he was the only one who was said to have grieved when Palpatine died.There was almost a sincere friendship between the two. I don't think I've ever hear Palpatine talk harshly to him, even when giving him orders. Their relationship needs to be explored more, I believe.

[@Drawnartist]

That artwork of vader suspended in air between palpatine's hands with the lightning is a very cool image well done whoever drew that awesome

[@bunbun4629]

Vader: I HATE YOU!!! Palpatine: *Leaves* Obi: Hello there..... ITS OVER I HAVE THE HIGH GROUND Vader: NOOOOO Palpatine: *Laughing as he leaves in his shuttle*

[@solareclipse9379]

Underrated comment

[@neilmurphy966]

Poor Mas Amedda..he's always looking like deer in headlights..he looked sortof awkward when Yoda turned up in rots..now he gets choked for doing his job!! 😋

[@davidhong1934]

When you work for a Sith Lord, every minute you survive is a blessing

[@StuartLugsden]

Greg Pak and Charles Soule are brilliant when it comes to Vader.

[@orbaitv5991]

I read the comic yesterday and it's honestly becoming a masterpiece for me

[@thedarkknight727]

Vader getting Force Choked was actually satisfying to see. KARMA BITCH.

[@oscarclarke2653]

Can you imagine seeing this in a live action movie...

[@tymgames8307]

There are so many stories I wish to get a movie from

[@Scary_Mask_Tomboy]

That would be so hard to watch! i can literally imagone that on movie form and it's so unpleasant, i hate to see Vader get choked, that's god awful 😰

[@amazingbro6723]

When the lore master uploads, we have been blessed

[@storm-pooper9495]

You’re stories are so entertaining. Favorite Star Wars channel.

[@Nubin2000]

Sidious may be Vader's "Father Figure", but Vader is just Palpatine's useful Black Cyborg toy...LMAO! Vader is Sidious's Evil Black Buzz Lightyear! 😂🤣

[@mr.starman8706]

My God. It's amazing how powerful Vader's rage makes him. Palpatine can literally sense that Vader during this time is weak because he has lost his rage.

[@Mr-Rinn]

Small note: the assassin at the end of the comic is the same one who murdered Rey’s parents.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

He looks cooler with the helmet on

[@neilmurphy966]

Ochi of Bestoon? He must've lost some height after..maybe Palps cut him down to size 😉

[@ImperialZorn686]

Say sike right now

[@Nubin2000]

He also use B2 Battledroids against Vader.

[@medalgear654]

no one cares about rey.

[@edwardacorn2476]

I wasn’t really hyped for this comic series when it was first introduced, but I’m equally excited as I was when the Vader 2017 comics were released, I’ve seen the issue covers involving this assassin and the Oracle, from TROS deleted scene

[@goodsonicfan5016]

Woah, Palpatine put Vader back in the same spot from his last defeat just fuel his anger?! That’s just cold!

[@blackmarketgamingTheLukaski]

Epic graphic novel and added more feats to canon Palpatine. Him Force Choking Vader is pretty damn impressive

[@Minboelf]

Vader:Force choke Palpatine: *UNO reverse card*

[@HFlame7]

Palpatine and Obi-Wan could share stories about how they both constantly schooled Anakin.

[@knivesmillions2913]

This is why the Sith will always fail: They berate and scold their underlings rather than teach and hone their craft. They embed wrath and hatred in their underlings instead of focus and silent fury (like a predator hunting prey). And lastly they give into blind vengeance instead of using it as drive to improve yourself.

[@xinzlo6101]

Yeah kinda sucks too. This is why I prefer Plageuis over palpatine anyday. Plagueis was a bad person, but he was nice to his apprentices and master. Palpatine on the other hand

[@knivesmillions2913]

@@xinzlo6101 Yeah Plagueis wanted to be something more than his predecessors this is why he taught Palpatine almost everything he knew and also why he didn't get angry when Sidious made Maul his apprentice. He also wanted Dooku for his apprentice instead of Palpatine.

[@englishlady9797]

I know some people above are saying that he was 'making Vader suffer what he had inflicted on others' but I seriously think they don't understand here. Palpatine was not choking Vader to make him identify with others, he was just doing it for the heck of it. Vader himself rarely killed for pleasure. It was generally to punish failure or what was seen as 'treason', which was literally following Palpatine's teachings.

[@saphiriathebluedragonknight375]

@@xinzlo6101 Plageuis and maybe Bane are the only Sith I be OK serving. Not even Vader, even if he is my favorite.

[@xinzlo6101]

@@saphiriathebluedragonknight375 yea probably same but I would serve Darth Traya aswell.

[@divin2428]

Jesus I’m surprised Vader is still even sane, especially after going through that

[@darthknightwingphoenix2081]

He isn’t. He never has been. He’s a self loathing mess.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@darthknightwingphoenix2081 and he constantly has haunting, ominous delusions brought on by dark side meditation.

[@noble9864]

Yes, please cover that second part! We need to know how it ends!

[@Mediados]

Servant rule number 1: You want a Sith to be satisfied, but never have fun.

[@aringosavi169]

The fact that Palpatine brought him back to the very spot he got injured and burned, is incredibly cold. Worst thing Palpatine has ever done to him.

[@acrazysheepdog1555]

I realized we never see Vader choke another person after TESB, maybe this has something to do with it?

[@neilmurphy966]

I'm not certain as it's been long time but I think in Rotj novelization he choked attendant who tried to stop him entering elevator to throne room on second death star..tho don't think was fatal..being in novel guess cud be canon?

[@neilmurphy966]

@Darth Sidious I'm not sure..something like that I'm sure.. 😆

[@neilmurphy966]

@Darth Sidious what I should have said is Yes, Master 😉😆

[@englishlady9797]

@@neilmurphy966 It wasn't just because he stopped him from entering the elevator. He didn't realize the guy was enacting the Emperor's orders. Once he said it was, he let him go. He just thought the man was being irksome and insubordinate.

[@neilmurphy966]

@@englishlady9797 I know that..the central point on this comments thread was if Vader had stopped force choking others after TESB..😉

[@redgambit5308]

The emperor basically telling Vader to not simp and come back to be a rich ruler

[@spideysg1163]

I wish Disney would make a Vader anthology movie between episodes 3 and 4 instead of their stupid sjw propaganda sequel trilogy they should have choosed to make a Vader film instead

[@amazingbro6723]

They?

[@amazingbro6723]

Was that a grammar mistake

[@jakelong5600]

sjw propaganda because it has a woman and some bad writing ooga booga

[@joshuabaker2833]

@@jakelong5600 I don't think you know why the sequels are bad

[@Randaches]

I'm not the biggest fan of disney wars, but I must say that this comics are REALLY good.

[@thecobaltemperor]

“I can definitely understand why Vader threw Paplatine

[@Somesom33]

Its funny because this is vader when he is extremely conflicted due to luke and the light side creeping up back to him. Vaders prime was rebels - ESB era, after that to ROTJ he was conflicted so much that his power got nerfed. Unless we see more from comics where he somehow stops being so conflicted, besides that Vader truly is the strongest.

[@Somesom33]

@Darth Sidious Fanboying? Says the one with the name and pic. Tell me some of Sidious strongest Disney cannon feats then. There are statements that are recent that literally state vader is the strongest sith lord in the galaxy.

[@Somesom33]

@Darth Sidious First of all, thank you for being respectful unlike others. This might be long, but alright now ill say a bit of vaders feats and statements. Vader has had multiple statements from very recent comics that state he is the strongest sith lord. One of them being the game, Star wars jedi: Fallen order. "Few survive an encounter with the most powerful sith in the galaxy." - Star Wars Jedi: Fallen Order. Others try to counter this with saying that this is Cals POV but that would be incorrect as it comes from the games tactical guides which are directed to the *player* and the player knows that there a two sith, this is Disney cannon as well, which is very recent. Now another "Through his veins courses the bloodline of the most powerful Jedi and Sith, and Ren sees it as his birthright to rule the weaker beings in the galaxy." -- The Force Awakens Visual Dictionary This talks about Kylo ren and the most powerful jedi in the Skywalker family is luke Skywalker, and the only sith lord in the Skywalker family is Vader himself. Here's another. Darth Vader is the ultimate instrument of the dark side. --Rebels Confidential: Darth Vader | Star Wars Rebels | Official Disney XD UK HD This comes from Disney itself, not only that but Dave Filloni (who directed both star wars the clone wars, star wars rebels, *and* the mandalorian right now as well. There are also feats where he was able to effortlessly stop an AT-AT (keep in mind they are well far beyond 100 tons) from stepping on him with one hand and he was also in the process of completely crushing it before he was interrupted. He also killed a city sized monster named the Ender. (city sized, so much bigger than godzilla). Also in the game he was able to basically hold the ocean with his power in the force when cal destroyed the window, keep in mind they were hundreds upon hundreds of meters underwater and he was able to hold all that pressure (which at those depths its more than enough to dissolve your bones, I know this because I did a research project on the power of the maraiana trench for my school lmao). Those feats right there don't even compare to his much stronger ones which are literally insane. There are also more statements from sources and vader himself where he calls himself the strongest sith lord. Don't get me wrong, palpatine is definitely powerful as well, as banes rule of two ensured that each generation of sith was more powerful than the last. Vader wasn't a henchman, he was an apprentice. The rule of two; he couldn't overthrow palpatine becuase to do so, it is said you must know absolutely everything from your master, and Vader knew this, he knew how palpatine worked too as he was the closest to palpatine. He also needed to find an apprentice of his own to carry on the sith legacy (and this didnt happen until he met Luke and was rejected and he was conflicted, nerfing his power significantly). This is factual as we know vaders knowledge of the sith was pretty pale in comparison compared to palpatines. Hence palpatine was chosen to become eternal. Not to mention, Vader died considerably "young," he never reached that potential he was meant to reach.

[@plant3580]

No sidings is more powerful Vader is powerful but not close to being the most powerful sith

[@captainohio8420]

Palpatine: Hm playing with vader is kinda boring, oh i know what is missing *Pulls out the corpse of Padme* Palpatine: Now Kiss

[@freedomdude5420]

Now that would put the cherry on top.🤣🤣🤣 Vader would be so freaking angry you wouldn't believe.

[@freedomdude5420]

Oh one more thing, underrated comment.

[@optimusprime9082]

Vader's suit was designed to make him weaker, so that Sidious would be able to do stuff like that to him

[@Skibidiballs56]

Even though Vader was a nightmare to everyone but if anakin reached his full potential he would be more powerfull than than anyone EVER then palpatine would be on vaders place Lol bozo 😂

[@je2409]

Woah this was amazing

[@justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885]

Let's be honest Sidious is badass and awesome in both EU and Canon

[@tymgames8307]

But his arc in the sequels is unnecessary

[@justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885]

@@tymgames8307 excluding that, Sidious is badass in both canon and legends, my 2nd favorite sith

[@tymgames8307]

@@justsomeguywhokeepsgetting4885 he is also 1 of 2 of my favourite sith

[@thegoldengamer9315]

Vader can be force choked? I guess anakins retribution is quite accurate

[@davidkosiba624]

Man I would love to see a uninjured Anakin doing the same with the senate

[@TheAETHER22]

Another day of lord vader getting bullied by emperor Palpatine in a galaxy far far away

[@lizardpeter]

It’s crazy that this all happens to the “chosen one” who has a 2x higher midichlorian count than the emperor and much higher potential. I think it’s because the prequels show the man Anakin could have been if he hadn’t turned to the dark side. So much lost potential. By losing his limbs and being stuck in the suit, George Lucas said he was now at only 80% of the emperor’s strength, compared to his potential to be 2x as strong.

[@amazingsteve7465]

Vader in the conflict with light side then. Midichlorians have nothing to do with it

[@Oscar61985]

Had Vader not lost his limbs on Mustafar, by this point Vader would’ve turned Sidious into mush. And that’s the only reason Sidious feels strong enough to do this to Vader.

[@shadowless3337]

Palpatine is a disgusting and meaningless person. This is exactly why I would never join the Sith. For all the loyalty, respect, and hard work you do for them, it only earns you treachery, mockery, and ingratitude. It was better for Anakin to remain a Jedi.

[@xinzlo6101]

The thing is. The former sith masters hated Palpatine. He didn't honor sith traditions, and he didn't even duel Darth Plageuis. He killed him in his sleep.

[@JesusChrist-bq6lu]

@@xinzlo6101 this is very true since Palpatine deliberately made Vader’s suit weak against lightning so he could never defeat him in a one on one battle which defied the rule of two

[@xinzlo6101]

@@JesusChrist-bq6lu Yea exactly palpatine always took the pussy route even tho he was so powerful which is pathetic.

[@darthknightwingphoenix2081]

@@xinzlo6101 Plagueis himself took the title of Master in a similar fashion, when he allowed and helped a cave in to kill his master. While Bane would have preferred that the mantle of Dark Lord be wrested from the all powerful grasp of the master through combat or skill or something, part of being a Sith is betrayal, and knowing when to strike. The master must, at all times, be strong enough to keep their position. Even a moment of hesitation or weakness can and often will cost them everything.

[@shogunofsorrow5520]

@@xinzlo6101 *>"The former sith masters hated Palpatine"* Based on what? No other Sith Master was even alive, let alone encountered Palpatine during his era. Unless you have actual proof, this is bullshit. Next. *>" He didn't honor sith traditions"* Neither did Plagueis who backstabbed Tenebrous and killing him while preoccupied, and hated the Rule of Two and planned to replace it with his own rule by not being replaced ruling the galaxy alongside Sidious. This is literally mentioned in the novel. *">He killed him in his sleep. "* Because a fight between the two would reveal their presence and location to the Jedi. Plagueis pulverizing a few dozen a assassins in a single Force wave was already enough to alert the Jedi to his location earlier in the novel. What do you think is going to happen if he and Sidious engaged in an all-out battle? Again, this is literally mentioned in the novel. It's like people watch a few KZbin videos about Star Wars and think they know everything.

[@SQUAD012]

When i first read it, i was like. Damn, sidious is not kidding this time. No wonder in episode 6 he says it's too late and MUST obey his master.

[@starwarsfiction]

One of the BEST Vader comics!

[@xxcaptninjaxx4301]

Star Wars Fiction yeah sure but EU has better comic with vader killed 7 jedi with 501st legion and where 501st legion aka vader fist in vader comics.

[@surewolf]

I need a part 2 !

[@JohnSmith-rb5iv]

If palpatine were a 5th grader teacher god bless all the students XD

[@thevoidlookspretty7079]

Sheev, please stop gaslighting your grand enforcer.

[@orangelinedevil2]

We know the films are flawed but these comics actually seem pretty good.

[@meppledude6874]

Palpatine roastin Vader never gets old

[@Nubin2000]

Palpatine treated Maul worst in Legends. Anakin wouldn't survive mentally being raised by Sidious.

[@lightray9573]

Anakin would've been just fine without Padme tbh, his love was his downfall

[@Lonewolf-hn3fi]

Now the line "The emperor is not as forgiving as i am'' has alot of weight to it.

[@tmuller_2020]

The title sounds like a p-hub title

[@Emperor_Palpatine_66]

Goooooood...

[@PrettyPaintedRecords]

LMAOOOOOOO

[@JoseHernandez-xv2bt]

@@Emperor_Palpatine_66 I saw another palpatine in this comment section

[@yoshtrooper6938]

Palpatine takes of vader’s pants fake taxi

[@BayAreaPolice]

You're my favorite KZbinr

[@B-rex395]

Wow, with a master like this who needs enemies?

[@bobabrick3854]

Great video

[@ChrisPTY507]

My favorite part of this issue was the flashbacks Vader had while he was being force choked by Palpatine. Nothing that a tiny bit of karma on the exact same BS he did to other imperials. He was only spared by the fact that Sidious was trying to get his point across through teaching his apprentice, rather than utterly breaking his neck and remainings of Vader cybernetics as he could’ve don’t it easily. I’d honestly would have loved that but sadly this would fuck up the continuity of what is already established.

[@michakoniecpolski5677]

kArMA Go be soy somewhere elsr

[@ChrisPTY507]

@@michakoniecpolski5677 You must feel like a badass replying to a 1 year old comment. smh…

[@kevinhernandez2594]

"And then he reached into my pants to look for 'The Force'" -"Jarth Mader"

[@donkeykongisbetterthanmari7495]

Lore master, what did maul do in his free time on dathomir, or when he was te apprentice of Sidious?

[@anthonymoretti6378]

Me: crushes my brothers skull with the force Also me: I was just playing calm down

[@alpha5664]

Why are people calling this a fight?Vader isn't even trying to defend himself Palpatine is just simply beating on him

[@krel3358]

In the empire literally everyone and everything is on Palpatines leash. Everything in the galaxy exists as part of a grand machine to serve his ambition. I would say this is probably the best examples of a pure psychopath that literally nothing but complete domination of literally everything by any means without any care for feelings only power. Palpatine is quite literally evil incarnate and is trying to mold Vader into a lesser copy of himself. The deep irony that is despite being part machine Palpatine is quite deeply more cold and calculating than Vader ever could be.

[@alpha5664]

It's a shame Anakin never reached his potential

[@neilmurphy966]

I see a new honoured place over Vader's mantlepiece: to keep the head of the assassin 😆

[@MichaelNight]

I feel like whoever has written the deep cuts of Palpatine’s character knows a thing or two about abuse from a narcissistic caretaker or relative. There are times when I feel like I know Palpatine.

[@daniellennon9207]

So many people didn't understand anything about this comic. Sidious was destroying ANAKIN here, not Vader. He tells Vader he needs to “find himself AGAIN” and “RELEARN the primacy of power” again confirming that this Vader is not nearly as powerful as he usually is. Sidious explains in this comic that Padme’s loss was what gave him his power in the dark side. Now that Padme’s memories are resurfacing and his son is alive the source of Vader’s strength has literally been UNDONE. Sidious is doing this to bring Vader “back to power” which confirms that Vader here has lost the power that he used to have. Therefore Sidious did not really “own” Vader. He owned a broken down, shell of Anakin Skywalker who we are told for a fact has lost his connection to the dark side.

[@JohnSmith-rb5iv]

There was a deleted page in the beta my friend works for Disney and the page is that after vader got into the castle palpatine put vader in a giant hour glass full of tatooine sand in vader had to get out without using the force and his limbs were still crashed

[@p0staldude000]

You’re a liar

[@StuartLugsden]

You're a terrible liar

[@JohnSmith-rb5iv]

@@StuartLugsden its a joke XD

[@rxlm89]

Please make a follow up to this! Your videos are very engaging and keep it up. Great content

[@jacquelyynorgana77]

Freaking Palps man. The comic was sad n made me feel bad for Vader :(

[@dionking3512]

Keep us updated

[@sergodobro2569]

Loremaster, I have a question for you: were there any sith who turned to the light side from the dark side? I hope you will answer on this question or even make a video about it.

[@Skibidiballs56]

There was i dont have any example but shortly: yes

[@Philip54622]

Yes during the old republic there were many who came close or did fully embrace the dark side and were still allowed to serve the old sith empires

[@whoareyou98]

This story is like when you fail a test, and your Dad finds out.

[@yepperdeedooda]

Palpatine really has some issues. I guess his daddy never held him enough. Or maybe he held him too much.

[@thewildcardperson]

No actually neither differnt issue I had palps dad was weak and a bitch basically to everyone around him palp is a born psychopath and the resentment of his fathers weakness led him to be even worse his study of the dark side and joining the sith eventually

[@emperorpalpatine6239]

Sometimes I terrify myself.

[@HenryLouis21]

I love how the comic is including Ochi because he was in the Rise Of Skywalker for a split second and it's great that the comics are including him, expanding upon his character a little bit. And his new mask looks like if Star-Lord and Batman had a baby.

[@Gamerafighter76]

Wow, just when you thought Palpatine couldn’t get colder.

[@Skibidiballs56]

Never liked that shit never think he is cold never will like him for me he is one of the worst characters in the whole star wars but its your opinion

[@wastedshin]

My mans vader in a abusive relationship

[@davisdf3064]

Palpatine: Vader? Are you ready to fight me? Vader: no master... Palpatine: so why is your lightsaber so active?

[@A_username_here]

Which lightsaber...?

[@davisdf3064]

@@A_username_here The good one

[@A_username_here]

@@davisdf3064 WAIT NO- 😭😭😭💀💀💀

[@lukedubb97_30]

Are you still making the all stormtrooper types cannon / legends 2020 video

[@davidhong1934]

It looks like Vader is doing evil ballet in the thumbnail