When Sean Astin screwed up BIG TIME in the Grey Havens ending scene!

[@Musashi246]

The third time they nailed it - because they really were crying in pain xD

[@NGBigfield]

That's what I thought 😂

[@Dargonhuman]

Makes sense to me; that's now my headcanon.

[@HappyMSI1]

Ha yes, the Kubrick's way.

[@Ron-d2s]

I'd bet the second time the film was fine but the acting was 💩 so #3 for true anguish.

[@breadtoasted2269]

Peter knew lol

[@JordanBeagle]

Sean Astin was a true method actor, making them devastated irl

[@JDGage]

Eh, he’s a Kamala Harris voter, how good can he be 😆

[@aamaterasu4790]

@@JDGagewhat

[@machineguncrally7020]

@@aamaterasu4790 He’s right. He destroyed his legacy and once a great thing making it difficult to see him the same again now in these movies because he couldn’t keep ridiculous left wing politics out of his mouth

[@user-jc6vh8ck1f]

​@@machineguncrally7020 on the contrary :*

[@jedpittman6739]

did he die?

[@therealKrak]

The second day the camera was crying.

[@TheFirehands150]

Good thing he didnt notice Eomer's sword falling out to do the WHOLE horse scene again lol

[@theusher2893]

"I've got to go back, I've forgotten my handkerchief!"

[@_G_H_0_S_T]

"Why don't we just re-shoot the previous scene WITHOUT the vest on? So we can keep our "magical" scene?" -that one guy no one listened to that day.

[@freshrot420]

Just CGI on some buttons!

[@The_Dusk_Sage]

@@freshrot420I thought the same thing, all it needed was a few CGI buttons

[@wizardsuth]

There's a comic in which people are discussing some issue in a boardroom and one guy comes up with a (usually very reasonable) suggestion that the CEO doesn't like. In the last panel he is defenestrated. Only in this case the final panel has to be of Orthanc.

[@bleepbloop101010101]

Definitely could have done this, but you have to admit it looks way better with the vest and fits the rest of the costumes/more consistent with the rest of the series.

[@Sindraug25]

Shoot a scene of Sam rushing out of his house because he's leaving later than he wanted, and Rosie comes out after him, "Sam! Your vest!" But he's already gone, and she just shakes her head.

[@stephennewton2777]

Jackson telling them about the reshoot of the reshoot must’ve made it far easier to cry for the third take

[@sagittarius1343]

But at any rate, they managed to create a scene of sheer perfection--IMO--of emotion, music, cinematography. The slow hugs, the tears, the smiles, the ship into the setting sun of the western sea all tied together with the beautiful score of Howard Shore makes this scene one of my favorites in the trilogy. Kudos to Elijah, Sean, Dominic, and Billy. You all nailed it!

[@Bow-to-the-absurd]

The long ending gets me every time.

[@doeshumorbelonginmusic5799]

"The moment they are told to do it again because of Sean's clothes Gandalf looks at him and shouts: "RRRUUUNNN!!!" 😂

[@OytheGreat]

I think you mean "FLY! YOU FOOLS!"

[@enigmalfidelity]

Fun Lore Fact: Gandalf was taking the Hobbits to the eagles to assist in flying straight to Mordor. Fighting the Balrog was NOT apart of the plan, let alone going through the Mines to begin with. The path was left for Frodo to choose, and if he had chosen different tly, it would not have been the "right path", and all would have failed.

[@bulbasaurbrutal5137]

@@enigmalfidelity Plus the freezing cold would have been the death of the hobbits!

[@dragonflash09]

That's literally the script supervisor's job. The actors are supposed to focus on lines and acting, not wardrobe.

[@BradiKal61]

True. The wardrobe dept should also have spotted the vest problem.

[@Crawldragon]

I think the fact that they managed to film an entire day's worth of footage and not realize that their cameras were out-of-focus goes to show that movie-making is so *so* much harder than it looks.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

TBH, even decades later, I'm still unsure as to how they didn't notice this. I mean, in some cases when a sunset is required or some other time-critical moment factors in, it's understandable that when you MUST rush... well, luck is key. But when you're already doing reshoots, there's a heightened sense to get things correct.

[@quarantinebored1427]

@@Novastar.SaberCombatI’ve worked on film sets where when it’s the end of the day for shooting and it’s a long shoot, everyone is so tired at that point no one is thinking clearly. There was a cinematographer that was just filming random trees and when asked why he said “ I don’t know, I’m just waiting for someone to say that’s a wrap”. And the look in his eyes said “ the lights are in but no one is home.

[@zaryalace7475]

A bigger problem when using film. Now real time digital playback makes this a non-issue.

[@Preston241]

Sean was crying for real by the end.

[@CuffsJNW]

This is the real reason Sam was so keen on following Frodo 😂 Secretly bullied by the other two

[@annecarter5181]

I just love these background stories!! Thanks so much!

[@southernlady5085]

Great presentation and so very interesting! Shows how all the actors in this scene are extremely talented. I couldn't imagine crying for three days of shooting. Makes me appreciate the final footage all the more.

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

Acting is difficult. For the 30+ years I spent doing it, no matter how often I attempted to explain just how exhausting it could be, everyone looked at me with haughty disdain. 🙄 It's just more verification that even when people literally do *not* know a single thing about a subject or endeavor, they're still perfectly happy to make instant internet assessments about it, "calling the shots" as if they're an adept expert. It's embarrassing.

[@alex.8648]

THAT scene is absolutely memorable, iconic and breathtakingly beautiful, so it was very much worth the pain guys, so thank you for it 👏😂❤

[@MannyBrum]

It was such a powerful moment in the movie because they were all really crying thinking about how many more times they'd have to film it.

[@altEFG]

People are arguing in the comments over who is really to blame for this mistake, but I think what we should really get out of this is how dedicated the cast and the crew were to making the best possible movie. On a production of such scale and complexity mistakes will inevitably happen, and I feel like in many other movies a lot of mistakes stay in just because it's a pain to re-do it.

[@mamazockt]

Isn’t there someone Assistent to check if all costumes and settings are as they should be?

[@Ryo11129]

there should be, but sometimes things like that happen. The vest looked similar tbh. I mean there are other cases from other movies/series like a Starbucks coffee mug in front of Dani in Game of Thrones or Vikings wearing jeans in The Last Kingdom. Someone not looking close enough is all it takes. Complete nightmare for scenes that take a whole day away.

[@FastDuDeJiunn]

a lot going on. shit happens. at least its not like baldwin. shoots and kills a woman because he to stupid to bring real guns, real bullets to a set.... how that pos isnt rotting the rest of his life behind bars is beyond me. he killed her pure and simple. his movie, he was in charge, he pulled the trigger. if he followed safety protocols it never happened. but he lazy entitled pos

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

@@Ryo11129 Yep, I get the feeling though that if this happened now, it would probably be cheaper to just fix it with some CG work.

[@dlxmarks]

@@Ryo11129 True but the _GoT_ season 8 Starbucks cup followed by 2 water bottles in the finale really represented multiple people on set not giving a crap anymore.

[@scottclowe]

Yes, the role is filled by the script supervisor (or continuity assistant). Everyone makes mistakes sometimes though.

[@dwilborn1257]

Today they would just cgi the vest

[@wavion2]

Was thinking the same thing. That's a bad thing though. When you don't have "we'll just fix it in post" as a crutch, you tend to work harder to get it right the first time.

[@medalion1390]

100% 😂

[@Mrdood999]

@@wavion2 Yup. This very clearly happens in video games as well. It's almost expected nowadays that things won't be finished when they start selling them. "Eh, we'll just do a day 3 update."

[@vitoralves422]

i personally wouldnt do that... dont worry, hollywood is gonna hire me soon

[@mrb2349]

@ayylien3070 that’s not true. With CGi, you can bring the best of every take together, and get the closest result to the director’s vision.

[@itsyaboymuffinman]

I believe the director did this on purpose to get the most genuine reaction. Thats part of why this movie will always hold up.

[@itsyaboymuffinman]

Same with Stanley Kubrick tormenting Shelley Duvall during the filming of The Shining.

[@ysbecca6624]

By the end of the last shoot they were crying real tears

[@grondhero]

*Also Sean Astin:* _

[@chrism1503]

😂

[@alvideos2145]

"You mean we have to film another day?!" *starts crying*

[@ericlewisauthor]

Unintentional Kubrick method of directing

[@Novastar.SaberCombat]

No. They would've needed 100+ takes, and for Kubrick to be asked "what do you *want*?" a dozen times only to be met with the fact that he'd blame the actors for not knowing their lines. 😂

[@AidanFarren-Hart]

Sam’s vest is still missing after Frodo boards the ship. 😆

[@random22026]

WOW. The PERILS of CON-TIN-OOOOO-ITY! 🤣🤣

[@FormerDelusional]

And yet Orlando Bloom’s changing eye color didn’t warrant reshoots later?

[@8irdhous3]

Remind in what part of the movie that happened haha😅

[@MisoSilly]

Yes!!! That bugs me so much!

[@americandefender1861]

​@@8irdhous3Helms Deep. When Aragorn and Legolas are speaking in Elvish then yelling. 'then i will die as one of them!' scene lol.

[@americandefender1861]

Good point!

[@dannydev9829]

Does it bother you that much? You ve got no idea how delicat it is to direct and produce such a rich and heavy movie with so many characters and landscapes and details, so I believe you could easily forgive them for letting that one slip away

[@robmangeri777]

They went to the equivalent of actor’s Mordor so I guess it worked out to really “feel it” lol!

[@qdllc]

Really, the costume master should have caught this.

[@trequor]

There are a LOT of costumes in Lord of the Rings. Lots of tiny details. Remember too that they had FOUR units filming at the SAME TIME! So while one studio is kitted out for Lothlorien and all the elves, down the hall is Bilbos birthday with a hundred hobbits all with their own costumes. And miles away the helicopter team is getting shots of black riders chasing a stunt double. All while Peter Jackson is filming the main cast doing something totally different Really it's up to the actor to WEAR their costume

[@dragons123ism]

They would have checked it all at the start of the scene but Sean went out for a call and came back with the wrong costume

[@unhommequicourt]

Yeah, how is this Sean s fault? He s just an actor.

[@firestorm5432]

They finally got it because they were all in real pain of having to do it again

[@sce2aux464]

Peter Jackson: "Guys, I'm so sorry, but the cameras were all out of focus. We're gonna have to shoot again." Sean (to himself): "Oh thank God!"

[@cynthiaahern9081]

Right? 😂😂😂😂

[@stevenfriedman2902]

Why would he be saying that? They were even more mad at him because there wouldn't have even needed a 3rd day if there wasn't even a mess up on the 1st day to do a 2nd day.

[@TerbInYourFace]

@@stevenfriedman2902 because he'd be hoping the scorn would go towards the 1AC from there

[@lFunGuyl]

By day three they were all just crying because they were still having to act this scene

[@89st7]

Actors hate overtime but for real people it's a necessity.

[@mononoke813]

I woulda been crying from exasperation after being told a third take was needed 😭

[@Bexebeche]

At this point they should have add the freaking vest with CGI 🤣

[@Ragesauce]

I can't imagine going 3 days of raw emotions full tilt.

[@Kanoog]

Sean needed them to actually feel the pain to get it perfect 🤣

[@nataliasclarandi8204]

3 days in a row mourning their hearts out

[@TheSegacampGamerandWerecamp]

2:00 "The 3 Other Hobbits looked at me like.... we will kill you!..... You Jerk!" 😆😆😆 That'll teach you Sean!

[@OnlyGoodSHHH]

I HAD NO IDEA! I thought I knew about everything LOTR that was worth knowing about...! What a special moment, finally, learning something new again about my fav movies of aaaaall time LOTR = Best Trilogy of all time, hands down, not even close, absolutely no discussion needed

[@christiannielsen3863]

Even the camera man didn't want a re-shoot so he left it on auto focus

[@sheldonbeiler1028]

By the end of it, they were probably crying real tears

[@davidc.2878]

Uh, where’s the continuity person?! Supposed to say when he walks on set: “Sean, where the hell is your vest?!”

[@Trondei]

If you saw this appendice way back in the day, you know exactly what the elephant in the room is.

[@matthewmitchell3457]

That they still didn't get the continuity right?

[@mevb]

It's kinda weird that this scene was in the middle of principle photography instead of the last day or week of shooting, consindering it'd be more appropiate with knowing this is the end, we have to say goodbye to my fellow actors, so it would put the better in the mood and give the right emotion for the scene. But it ultimatley didn't matter because they nailed it. I feel sorry for those guys to having to redo it twice because of custom misses done by Sean Astin and by technical difficulty (it wasn't ultimately the focus puller's fault, though it might seem to be).

[@cheydinal5401]

Tbh based on some of the shots they showed here, it does seem like they were better on the first day of shooting I think the biggest issue for the actors wasn't even so much that it would be emotionally taxing in and of itself, but also that they knew they wouldn't be able to capture that raw emotion again after having done like a 1-minute sequence for an entire day the 2 days before. It's like, imagine some actual really emotional moment in your actual personal life, and imagine reliving that for sort of 48 hours straight, at that point you've just become completely numb to it and any emotion you're showing is just a superficial act

[@mevb]

@@cheydinal5401 But it's impressive that they managed to recapture it despite being (understandingly) unsure of capture the same mojo as before.

[@kikosawa]

This isn't about what's appropriate. It's scheduling according to what sets, people, etc are available.

[@trequor]

It's not that weird. Actors get tired. After two years of constant filming they arent going to have the same energy. Coupled with that are logistical issues. The four hobbits are together for most of Fellowship, but then are in completely separate scenes for almost two full movies. They only get together for the end in Hobbiton and the Grey Havens. So you want to get this filmed while everyone is together with their Shire outfits

[@OuterEdgeOutpost]

I agree, it always bugs me how chaotic they are with the shooting schedules. I'm not an actor, but it just seems like you'd get more authentic performances if you tried to shoot at least the really important scenes in the right sequence. All creative collaborations develop over time, people get a better feel for what they're doing, they develop camaraderie, etc, so it's inevitable that the performances will gain richness over the course of filming. It just seems like good practice to plan your schedule with that in mind.

[@MistyyLou]

In the extended version, they kept the scene in where his vest wasn’t on (if I remember correctly!)

[@byroneveson]

Thanks, this made me smile.

[@Givy55]

All the eyes that were on these guys ALL day an nobody noticed he wasn't wearing the right vest? LOL

[@jonathanbranum8976]

well said Merry...

[@TedMattos]

I feel like they could've cut Mr. Astin a break. After all, it was really HIM who saved Middle Earth.

[@cholkymilkmirage4984]

you knwo looking at the other footage, man that third one fucking hit

[@jonathanbranum8976]

well said Dom...

[@elreyabeja4539]

That's not his fault, that's the continuity person's fault.

[@debburton339]

If they can recreate Gollum, they could have put a vest on Sam?!?

[@darkzak47]

Peter Jackson pulling a Stanley Kubrick/Shelley Duvall on the four of them

[@ajmittendorf]

I thought there was a member of the crew who was supposed to be in charge of such continuity issues, correcting them BEFORE the second bout of filming began. Where was THAT person for this, and did that person get fired?

[@Solocase]

Only OGs recognize the BattlefrontUpdates voice 🙏😭

[@Tmhjr_Baskar]

This vid had me laughing so hard my eyes were watering, side was hurting and eventually my back popped in pain. Oi Guess I needed that laugh.

[@malango255]

For once it wasn't pippin.

[@leafonhead777]

Except they still ended up using the wrong footage and Sam's vest disappears and reappears between scenes.. Crazy that they noticed it, and still used the wrong footage. You'll never be able to unsee it.

[@lorekeepermeerah]

This is one of my favorite ‘random fact about the lotr movies’ I love to share with people 😂 because it’s just so terrible for everyone involved, I feel so bad for all of them but especially for Sean, I know he felt awful, poor dude. I need people to know how much they went through to make scenes like these lol 😂

[@JamesGowan]

I’m sure Weta could’ve added that vest in!

[@medalion1390]

To be fair to Sean, that’s as much on the continuity guy/girl as it’s on him. You hire people to notice that kind of thing.

[@hadorstapa]

That's not down to Sean. There are dressers and continuity monitors whose job it is to keep an eye on exactly this sort of thing. They're the ones who dropped the ball.

[@coreyw5981]

Those wigs!? I thought every actor actually grew out their hair for this movie

[@TheSingularitarian]

Had to make 'em hurt for real!

[@SauceOnDough]

Yeah, after the third time those tears were real. 😂

[@19thunder63]

I love these movies and books. But I noticed something else about Sean's wardrobe. His green leaf is backwards from the others and a couple of scenes it's on right. Don't know if anyone else has noticed this but I thought I'd mention it lol. ❤

[@ejoshcoron]

I don't remember this behinds the scenes. Is it from the extended edition blu ray?

[@rc6115]

Well, at least at the end the tears were truly geniune lol

[@Cybothron]

Feels like that scene was cursed lol

[@ETCSssMcCrackin]

All that fuss over a vest, but apparently Eomers sword falling out in full view was OK?

[@babansif]

It wasn’t in full view, it was insanely good observation for the one that noticed it and made a video on it.

[@ETCSssMcCrackin]

@@babansif I'm talking about Jackson. Why did he make such a big deal of re-shooting because of a vest, but let the sword falling stay in?

[@pat34lee]

With all the special effects in these movies, they couldn't CGI on a brownish vest?

[@jonebert7716]

This is why i love peter jackson and james gunn they know their lore and the want to honor the creators of the filn from the books and comics so the do things right!!

[@dearthofdoohickeys4703]

Nowadays they would have fixed it in post

[@lordwilfried117]

reminds of the last of us where they had to redo the scene with sarah

[@StanleyJohnson-tf5el]

I want to know why the script supervisor didn’t notice the vest issue and therefore should be taking some of Sean’s flack.

[@myenemysenemy1043]

Seriously, they should have just filmed this scene last

[@freddesk1693]

But isn't this someone job to supervisee and verify everyone's outfits before scenes ?

[@r0bw00d]

How did the cinematographer not know that the cameras were out of focus? Isn't that the most important description of his job?

[@BradiKal61]

The first assistant camera usually pulls focus. Hard to believe that between the first, the DP and anyone watching video assist would miss that. Maybe a mechanical problem within the camera in terms of the film path that wouldn't be visible during shooting?

[@InfinityFishing]

meanwhile sir IAN :D

[@beewell1600]

Since it was the first day...couldnt they just NOT wear the vest in every other scenes? or have Sam remove it

[@MarcusHalverstram]

"Stuuuuuupid faaat hobbit!"

[@janebaker4912]

Where was the continuity officer???

[@Syaska]

In charge of the cameras

[@janebaker4912]

@@Syaska a continuity officer make sure clothing and hair and food and items in a shot are always consistent.

[@VITAS874]

20 years past... and rts game too. Its sad

[@MrBrody420]

Do they not have camera ops who's like main job is keeping focus??

[@d.sm.4146]

So we couldn't just cgi a few buttons for what, 30s max scene?

[@BradiKal61]

So the first shoot day was lost because the wardrobe and script supervisor didn't catch the wardrobe problem and the focus puller didn't nail it on the second day.

[@msa4548]

Peter's fault for not catching either of the first two mistakes.

[@mvprime8]

It's the focus puller (or first assistant camera) whose job it is to maintain focus by adjusting it according to measurements and marks they made beforehand. However only the camera operator who is looking through the viewfinder will see if it's actually in focus or not. And it's possible for the camera operator to not notice if it's only slightly out of focus, because they are looking through the tiny viewfinder and not seeing it on a big screen. In the time of shooting on film, you would not see if it was out of focus until the film was developed. Nowadays shooting digital you will notice right away.

[@christoffervala]

The missing vest should've been noticed by the script supervisor and costumes, it's not an actor's job to to make sure they look the same. The second, as mentioned in the comment above, is the focus puller's (1st AC's) job - when shooting on film, you really only get to see the shots properly once the film is developed. It used to be so that at the end of each day the director, DP, Producer etc would watch the dailies/rushes from that day, which was the film they shot that was immediately developed and sent for review on a big screen.

[@driftwoodkitty]

not jenny's boat!

[@RobertHoward-d8g]

And nobody... NOBODY at all noticed? No set-checker? No director? None of the other actors? Or make-up artists? Or even the car-park attendant? I find it really difficult to believe that of all the many people associated with the making of the movie, not ONE person said "I see Sean's not wearing his vest". C'mon.

[@ronaldperry9103]

So those tears were real…. Hahahahah

[@blakestake]

last time I watched I noticed that even after all of the reshoots, Sam still doesn’t have his vest on in his last two shots of the scene 🥲

[@some1namedno1]

That would be the fault of their script supervisor/continuity.

[@ebonypegasus9864]

at 2:20 the bluescreen outline is so obvious around the hobbits.

[@LuanBermudez]

~ re-do it, again! ~ lol, desperate laughs

[@Zzues]

Jackson created real suffering, to make the acting job easier on the actors :).

[@adb888]

You shall not pass...at least not without the vest and clean lenses.

[@DeclanMBrennan]

I guess the first time, Sean wasn't fully invested in the part. Sorry. I'll show myself out.