when the sketch looks better than the lineart...

[@thisissketchy9339]

I hate how relatable and realistic this is

[@YogurtCereal]

So who gonna be the 600 like..? { •__• }

[@PurpleBubblegum]

So true 😭😭😭

[@TheGreatResist]

The story of my life.

[@crazychannel2122]

???

[@ChocoMint_Ch.]

True! That’s why I need a lot of time to draw

[@TeaTehMan]

the title is such a relatable thing. Like honestly I draw sketches most of the time because my outlines are so shit lmao.

[@leposs2534]

Practice makes perfect.

[@TeaTehMan]

@@leposs2534 i used to be good at outline lmao, but then i stopped drawing digital for a bit, it got shit

[@JuhoSprite]

I think a good and clear sketch is needed for a good lineart. If the sketch isn't good the lineart won't be too different.

[@leposs2534]

@@TeaTehMan And? Just practice again, aint that hard to relearn old skills. Try new styles of lineart, new tricks, etc. it's fun to learn new art skills, you won't get better without trying! /nm

[@wustenflamme4660]

@@JuhoSprite Doesn't need to be clear, different sketches are 'good' for different artists

[@jcanimates9171]

Same energy as when your doodles in paper are better than your actual "serious" drawings

[@Salmyne]

Quand tu fais un dessin sur une feuille de travaille, qu'il est le meilleur dessin de ta vie mais vu que c'est sur une feuille de travaille, tu dois soit l'effacer, soit le regarder avec tes exercices à côté

[@krispytoilet]

True lmao That happened to me like yesterday

[@minana2785]

I hate how much I relate with this

[@scrubmmm8643]

THIS IS ME I literally doodled 3 random girls on paper 3 days ago and I liked them better than the digital art I put my time on 😭😭

[@lapisincognito]

it's not sometimes for me, it's almost everytime

[@June_squids]

This is why I don’t do lineart and just make the sketch darker

[@AidenHere]

Just a thick ol' line

[@AFRONY791]

​@@AidenHereyup

[@mia-saraking5479]

Pro tip! Line variation is your best friend. Sketches look so good because you're deepening up certain parts and that gives it life and depth. You can do the same thing with your line art by making some lines thicker than others. A common way to do this to put thicker lines in the shadows

[@Nayclan]

Agreed!

[@AwkwardAvii]

Wow thanks!

[@notVulture]

Thx man! ur a life saver

[@amirajones9206]

Yep, you'd be surprised to learn how many artist don't know what line width and variation is lol

[@sunraen]

yuppp

[@TevvoWevvo]

Pro tip: cut your losses. The sketch is now the lineart.

[@residentkane]

It looks nice, it's quick, it's easy, mildly fun to color. 10/10.

[@LoliMaster69227]

Take a note from Attack on Titan. If you pretend the sketch is the final product then nobody will question you!

[@B4K4xNi]

This is my strategy lol

[@alwaysyouramanda]

🤣

[@marco_panda4606]

Just erase all the stray lines and color… tbh it’s more fun to color and illustrate.

[@GingeryGinger]

THE EYES. enough said.

[@forsen587rllytho]

Well there were no comments so I like reading manga

[@doge2519]

@@forsen587rllytho same here

[@user-rs2li9cc8y]

Enough said, Call ed

[@cannedsquid]

@@forsen587rllytho what's ur fav

[@tame7929]

also the jawline is only half there on the line art, such a big detail and it makes them look like their neck doesn’t end like some weird jabba the hutt

[@Vaihly]

I am proud to announce that i have completely gone past this obstacle and can now make lineart as good as the sketch 🙏 😌

[@Lbird1993]

I'm jelly! What's your secret?

[@Lbird1993]

WHICH IS?! :D@@igpayovelay2833

[@dinosharttt]

@@Lbird1993 no lineart

[@DownNBaddd]

My sketch = a less refined line art, so I basically just straighten out and clean chicken scratches. I honestly dont change much aside from just cleaning out chicken scratches, it’s literally the same. 😂😂😂

[@ssaintdolli]

hurrrrayyyyy!!! *confetti*

[@tuttletuttlewood5551]

The reason this happens is because when sketching, people feel more free to make expressive strokes or experiment with textures and definition, but when it comes to lineart, they feel like it has to be clean and “perfect,” so they lose a lot of those little imperfections that add interest to the artwork.

[@cafe8681]

That's some useful free advice

[@dreama.]

That's so true.

[@lynxesghost9918]

true. Thats why i make my sketches clean.

[@BertYT]

@@cafe8681 free real estate

[@yungmetr0135]

it's not the "imperfections" that make line art good, it's knowing where to variate the thickness of the lines which a lot of amateur artists don't know how to do properly

[@Trickster44]

The infinite loop of trying to draw the cheek in 1 stroke hit me hard. The sound, the frustration...

[@dchen8874]

and then i flip the canvas and it looks whack

[@arielherman8373]

I always feel like my sketches are better than my line art, because all the overlapping sketch lines give my brain a way to imagine the perfect line throughout all of the different lines. If there's only one definitive line to look at, I quickly start to point out mistakes or imperfections because there's no other "solution" to find/imagine with other present line art lines, because there's only one line. (Sorry if it looks like a wall of text. I just wanted to be as clear as possible...)

[@ayaneagano6059]

I wrote way more than that on this topic; trust me, it does not look like a wall lol

[@Thenoobestgirl]

This makes sense :3

[@Andrekrep420]

There's more comment on other video in yt that like a literal fortress than just a wall

[@arielherman8373]

@@Andrekrep420 I wrote my comment on mobile, so it looked like quite a lot of text. I didn't stop to think about how it would look on PC. So yeah :/

[@Andrekrep420]

@@arielherman8373 actually, on pc it's kinda looks like a wall, probably about 3-5 lines

[@redribbon2]

Tip: Make sure to add line weight, this can help the drawing feel more alive Tip 2: Don't be afraid to make your art sketchy it can look really nice a lot of times Just a lil bit of help for ya'll artists out there 😊

[@Mondayleftme_broken]

Bro/girl, thanks!!

[@Unknown-kl9mm]

@@Mondayleftme_broken just say bro 💀. Bro's a neutral word.

[@Mondayleftme_broken]

@@Unknown-kl9mm I know that. It's just a lot of ppl get offended when I call them "bro"

[@Swiftkeyprotexter]

@@Mondayleftme_broken its 2022 yeah 😔

[@Unknown-kl9mm]

@@Mondayleftme_broken oh, lol

[@dragondreams8768]

I don't think I've ever done a line art I liked more than the sketch.

[@gonk9204]

Honestly no shame in that, plenty of artists prefer the kindve rougher unpolished 'style' to sketch art and i can see why, even if personally im still in the phase of beating my perfectionism down so i can finally feel comfortable with just liking my sketches hah

[@nolsjawline]

yo Mr.Kayden

[@ano_nym]

Same here. Although I'm at like deviantart tier, so not really that experienced.

[@elliot.713]

The great Kayden shares his great wisdom!

[@minecraftweeeweeweeb8695]

I trust your words sir.Kayden

[@jenthegaylord3981]

I don't sketch and go straight to the lineart from basic shapes because of this. It made my lineart a bit more messy and unclean but tbh I like it that way much better.

[@softie436]

Same

[@dreama.]

I always sketch first , it works fine for me! But my art isn't realistic for now , it's just like Chibi or something like that

[@expertarcher8542]

What’s sketching?

[@madhatkitsune]

@@expertarcher8542 It's usually like a first draft. Like I personally do a sketch, which is where I plan things and make sure things look good. Then I do line art and clean it up! Sketches are really just a messy first draft

[@expertarcher8542]

@@madhatkitsune I was kidding because I’ve never used a draft before and have my drawing look good. I felt like it was a waste considering when your drawing on a tablet you can just use to fingers to go back and redo it. I never truely saw the reason for sketching. Then again, I never figured out how to use the layers correctly so I either never used them or I used them completely incorrectly.

[@FriedFreya]

Me, a traditional artist: **sweats profusely while praying to the gods of ink and perfectionism**

[@GrimFelArt]

ayyyy same 🙌

[@Truth_chan_studio]

I can feel you dude

[@greenaisha7833]

ahh yes,using pen that can be erased and the some mistake happen....damn

[@greenaisha7833]

sometimes(or even it was the style itself like me) what make the art look more good in sketch because we brave to do anything in sketch like make more impressive/ekspressive line,trying add some thing(even its random it can actually some good thing in the art) and when in line art they want it to be clean,that make what the sketch look good like the line and anything is ignored soo

[@edizgunes]

Traditional is easy mate 😎

[@purple_diamond_gacha_og]

most relatable thing I've seen this week

[@ayaneagano6059]

Despite what many people think, this doesn’t happen for no reason. It happens because most people (including professionals) do their sketches _very_ differently from how they ink; namely, they “pet” their lines or use multiple strokes to express what will ultimately be condensed to one stroke. When you’re seeing all those strokes in a sketch, each one is a possibility; it looks good because your brain is seeing where the “correct” line is in the sketch. But then you go to ink it and you don’t pick the correct lines from the sketch, and then you end up with… the inked drawing in this video. How I managed to remedy this is by using ONE stroke in the sketch when ONE line is ultimately going to be in the final; I will only add extra strokes to the same area when refining the forms. It’s honestly a lot better, as it’s worked wonders for my wrist and has made me much, MUCH faster by cutting out the unnecessary strokes. In what I work with, Procreate, it tells you how many strokes you use, and I used to average 2000~6000 strokes PER CHARACTER. But now, I only average 300~600 strokes per character. I hope that helps!

[@seratarsybagusibrahim5018]

I myself have no experience in drawing But I think this might be very useful for someone who do

[@badpiggy2403]

Hm that sounds interesting, I’m definitely gonna have to try that next time I draw something, thanks

[@sabbathjackal]

Alternatively, just use thicker lines. That was my solution anyway.

[@joedent3323]

Well put.

[@thornarts]

y’all i knew the thing about your brain seeing the right line through multiple lines and someone else talked about it too i’m 99% sure this is from a tutorial i watched i need to find it

[@ashgabriel011]

"If the sketch is better than the lineart, then will become the lineart."

[@jcanimates9171]

Smort words

[@dippinoutfool4977]

@@jcanimates9171 agred

[@m_artroom]

Sometimes I will give up and just color the sketch

[@light_fos]

Dude if your gonna quote sun tzu at least put "- Sun Tzu"

[@happuhelon]

@@m_artroom i second this, glad im not the only one

[@solarssolstice]

Me: **sketches** “Alright I think I can draw the lineart now” _10 minutes later_ *deletes it and creates a new blank drawing*

[@angelinachue2410]

i JUST did this…then i gave up and got on youtube

[@chimes023]

Sometimes... you just gotta delete your drawing. -Drawfee crew motto

[@Reoreoreoreoreo]

I have done this multiple times and i am not going to deny it

[@YE4rt]

@@chimes023 I haven't watched Drawfee in so long.. But yes, I do agree.

[@Boredartist08]

Me in a nutshell

[@NoVIcE_Source]

as an non artist i think theres nothing wrong with keeping it a sketch - it looks awesome

[@badgeoshame389]

Tip: Helps to make the sketch blue and very VERY low opacity. Does something to your eyes, idk what, but it allows you to see the line art more clearly while creating it.

[@bookbutterfly6613]

maybe it’s the lighter color and low opacity lol

[@ziongamer6905]

This. It’s VERY helpful when doing line art and is just like when artists use blue and red pencils traditionally

[@rainbowcattail4282]

I do that, and it makes my line art look better than my sketches. Mostly because my characters have stick legs in the sketches-

[@Ivyrose4]

I actually use red with low opacity. It works pretty well

[@japanrain3816]

As saitou naoki said (search him on yt he makes really good content and it sometimes has subtitles) the light blue color is so you don't have the pressure to *actually draw* because the contrast is lower. Or at least is what I could translate from what he said, japanese is hard guys 😩

[@rencat7075]

for anyone struggling with this: -lower the opacity of your sketch by a lot -try and make your sketch as clean as possible, or try sketching with a thinner brush -don't zoom in too much i hope that helps! lin art can be super frustrating sometimes ;-;

[@luminosatheglowwing5122]

Me zooming in all the way to get that perfectly clean line: 😶

[@brerto6062]

@@luminosatheglowwing5122 Same

[@luminosatheglowwing5122]

@@brerto6062 lol

[@DreamerFromTheDepths]

I would recommend not copying the sketch completely, just remember what you know about anatomy and stuff like this, and draw over it normally, paying attention to details but not trying to be perfect.

[@thatnike2604]

Thinner brush makes it worse. Use a thicker brush and redo the lineart with the final stroke thickness you want

[@julyol119]

That's because a messy drawing gives your brain the opportunity to "choose" the best line. When you only have the lineart left, you see where you actually went wrong, because your brain can now only see this one option. The uggo lineart is what your drawing actually looks like in that stage. But that's not bad at all, it gives you the opportunity to correct the mistakes. It helps to make several ever cleaner sketches before trying to do lineart. Also always flip your drawings horizontally in digital, so you'll see if your proportions/positioning are good enough.

[@azulreciennacido]

In traditional you can use a mirror to visualice your work flipped

[@julyol119]

@@azulreciennacido Absolutely! Or, if you work with paper, just put the drawing face down against the window or a light table. Works like a charm.

[@sunnyxp4681]

I am never flipping my canvas.

[@julyol119]

@@sunnyxp4681 You should try it :) It's a game changer, believe me.

[@scavorthespacecowboy2096]

@@sunnyxp4681 even rohan kishibe at the light of speed flips his manga panels, be like rohan

[@calmcraft5852]

I've seen a few artists who will incorporate part of the sketch into the messier parts like hair and it looks great. I feel like it would be perfect for this piece

[@VegaFic]

Me who never draw linearts and just use the sketch as a final result : *"Wait, you need line art??!"*

[@alpha_jasperflair1097]

I draw with sketch too line art is pain i only end up with sketches and coloe

[@W01f.]

No you dont, i usually just do line art. But you can do just sketches. It depends on the artist. But it is recommend to do sketches first so its easier to get stuff how you like without it being a pain to get good again after editing for say a arm. The sketchy look helps re making the arm easier because you dont need these clean lines. Then you can use the lineart as the cleaning it up and doing the final results for the design before coloring (if you do).

[@VegaFic]

@@W01f. ah ok

[@FriedFreya]

@@W01f. I appreciate seeing you give good advice. You're a kind artist. ❤️

[@W01f.]

@@FriedFreya Thank you!

[@krispytoilet]

I'd always say *“It's ok it will look better when it's coloured soon”* lmao

[@Reymax164]

If you're good at coloring

[@calicobagels]

@@Reymax164 And shading. And lineart.

[@JustWannaPissYouOff]

Same.

[@_cry.fl0werr]

S a m e

[@lizap8212]

I feel your pain,goat bro)

[@ethan2163]

Some tips for line art: (Don't, it's suffering, just paint or something) -Do at least two drafts of sketches try to make each draft cleaner than the previous one -Set your sketch to a color that can be easily differentiated from your line color -Dont focus solely on your sketch, make variations in your lines that looks good rather than simply copy the sketch -Line variation is key, it can be achieved in places such as overlapping forms, areas that turn away from light (eg. If there's a light source at the top, lines facing the bottom are thicker and get thinner nearing the top and sometimes break away from each other), change in material/texture, planes turning away from view, the silhouette/outline of the character -Have line confidence, most artists use their entire arm to draw, depends on your preference but don't use your wrist, you'll get carpal tunnel (Personally I only use my elbow/fingers) -Find an artist or piece of art you like then copy their style of lines into your own drawing, try to build similar habits into your workflow, your lines will get infinitely better -If you're painting on top of the line art it's good to color your lines a dark saturated shade of red or other colors so colors don't get too muddy -Eat cheese too, it improves your line quality

[@jewlswaterpower]

All great artists eat cheese 🧀

[@katyvern9116]

"Eat cheese" Me being lactose intolerant: Well shit

[@Atlamillia]

Thanks for the tips! I was using my wrist... and I will eat cheese lol

[@narutofanatic2342]

@@katyvern9116 yes that's the point, to shit on everyone with amazing art.

[@papaparsley7695]

@@katyvern9116 Then do it

[@noelleumina1181]

crtl + z is like my hero, dude that was the best part of this vid

[@simpletown323]

Pro tip: dont ink over a sketch thats at this stage. Currently this sketch seems to have a lot of indecision in it. Like there's a lot of lines that "indicate" hair clumps, but there really wasn't any decisive decision on shape, form etc. So do your rough sketch, then on a new layer, redraw everything but this time be deliberate and confident with your choices. Figure out where the lines need to be. Only once you've figured out your drawing, should you commit to inking

[@ou1l]

exactly this. i usually start with a preliminary sketch which is just random lines of where the figure should roughly be placed and their perspective, and then i would follow that with atleast two proper sketches where i take time to check my reference pics refine the angles etcetc, and thennn by the time im inking everything is just where they're supposed to be and not as shocking when u turn off the sketch layers lmaoo

[@happuhelon]

Sometimes i feel like my line art is that second sketch you mentioned :”)

[@surpriseraisin5892]

I do this! Your first sketch is like the construction, the second sketch is fixing, tweaking, being more decisive and adding some hints at texture/details, and the third is line art. And then, because I really do enjoy some of the sketchy look I'll include the second sketch with the lineart, just mask it before I do so it's cleaner and lighter in areas. It usually ends up blending into the shading but gives you an extra feel for the motion of the piece

[@Gabriel-sq6uc]

was about to comment this

[@zephyrias]

@@surpriseraisin5892 this entirely~ There were times where I enjoyed different pieces of the re sketch and merged em all to one super sketch to final.

[@mrsweetkandy7673]

As an artist mostly satisfied with his linearts: The sketch often looks better because it's more alive and direct; linework is essentially using a base while your mind feels more free during the sketch It also tends to feel/look better because you tend to pass several lines over, and that lack of precision makes you "guess" more (both while looking at it - not letting you notice the bad lines - and as you do the linework) Try to be as close as possible to your sketch process when you do lineart. Going over thicker lines makes it very tricky to really use that base to make your lines. The thinner your lines are during the sketch (in the case your linework has thin lines), the closer it gets to your linework and the easier it gets to move over it The more precise you are during sketch the more you can rely on the sketch's lines That being said, another way to tackle it is to, on the contrary, use the sketch as a vague guideline. Don't bother cleaning the sketch, don't bother connecting the lines, don't bother being precise. That way you will have a "fresh" mind for the actual good lines. The reason a lot of sketches look better is that you put the most creative effort on it. Keep some for the linework! I'd say it can be a bit of both. I recommend doing the sketches as quickly as possible, avoid taking too much time. It both saves time and makes you learn to make lines faster. And the faster you learn ease, the better and more lively it'll look. Edit: At the end of the day, pick what works best for you, we all have different preferences and things that work best for us specifically but that others may not like (EDIT again: that being said, if you are a maticulous person and that details matter for you - like i am - still make sure your sketch is accurate enough so that you won't at some point look back at your drawing, scratching your head wondering why it looks so off. It depends how it works for you but be sure to have a solid base Also off topic but, remember to flip the whole canvas often! Sometimes things don't look off until you flip the whole thing and realize your mistakes. What looks weird reversed is likely to look off the other way too) Hell, at some point you will be good enough to figure you don't always need the linework!

[@amimiami82]

As sb who resorts to only sketching and RARELY line art(cause im afraid ill ruin it and im traditional artist, no saving the sketch first) u said it perfectly. The liveliness part, the covering uncertain parts making them not visible, eveything. I prefer a more sketchy feeling in art in general, so ig i dont have a problem with not lining it.

[@amimiami82]

Also the tips u gave are some i have deducted as well x). How come u prefer line art?

[@mrsweetkandy7673]

@@amimiami82 i aim more towards a clean look, i like strong lines that stabilize the image. I'm not saying i would always put lineart (sometimes i just do color sketches) but i enjoy the clean linework and am not as fond as my dirtier sketches. Like, i may think "okay not gonna linwork this one" and just clean the sketch and add color Also i color my linework and apply filters over to have fun with the colors so it helps making the picture stronger

[@amimiami82]

@@mrsweetkandy7673 yeah im exactly the opposite; never colour and love the rough style of a sketch. But thx for the tips to lining, i want to get to a more illustration style when im satisfied enough and better at drawing and ill be sure to check ur comment then

[@mrsweetkandy7673]

@@amimiami82 i'm glad it's helpful!

[@LucasRPDJ]

This is so annoying when it happens, you do the lineart for nothing…

[@RayIsTheBest756]

Honestly that’s why every time I draw I leave most of them as a sketch ( I mainly do art on paper ) it always looks so much better

[@69thApostleOfShindoL]

"d-dosent look too bad, maybe when I color it'll look better" *proceeds to color* "Shit, idk how to color. It looks worse now" A bit tip on how I improved(a little)- after sketching, make a clipping layer and color the sketch lines to a color you're ok with, make it SUPER transparent (I usually do mine to the extent I have to squint to see it clearly) then lineart.

[@kyauiyuu5599]

I use Ibis paint so I just filter the line art to a light color like blue

[@69thApostleOfShindoL]

@@kyauiyuu5599 Yeah that's the idea. That's another way to do it.

[@marycinderellacasulla1790]

i feel you

[@apo11ocat]

haha yes. at school i drew a monke and it looks very good but then when i coloured it in it looked like taco bell

[@novel6469]

@@69thApostleOfShindoL ayo which manhwa that pfp from or just a random art

[@Lee-lm2bn]

It's too relatable, I'm gonna cry.

[@ReimaginedSkies]

for anyone struggling with this here is some tips 1. if you have extremely thin line art thickening it can help. it looks appealing to your brain bc it is easier to process/interpret 2. taper or add variety to the size of your line art. This keeps it from looking lifeless/repetitive 3. use some sort of texture to your lineart whether this is with a watercolor-like brush or a bumpy pencil-like one. 4. add extra "sketchy" lines to the lineart it doesn't need to be simplified to the max, which makes it look flat 5. you don't have to connect all your lineart leave gaps or "implied lines" 6. you don't have to follow all of this advice in fact you will likely not use most of them, but try some out and see what you like and all of these things can make your lineart stand out compared to others and look more appealing.

[@sannintube_official]

Thanks!

[@AmethystDraws.]

Thanks these are really helpful!

[@ReimaginedSkies]

@@sannintube_official happy to help!

[@ReimaginedSkies]

@@AmethystDraws. im glad!

[@AmethystDraws.]

@@ReimaginedSkies :)

[@ajltheavacado584]

The pain of a digital artist. And its so painfully relatable

[@NicRaah]

THE FACE XD, it's scary how true this is. Worst part is when you try to convince youself that it doesn't look that bad and to just trust the process, hoping that it will turn out great, just to spend hours coloring while still in denial...

[@tsired4653]

*Finishing sketch: "Wow, this is great. I just wondering how good my draw when I turn it into line art" *Finishing line art: "uhhhh... It's ok,it will be better if I color it" *Finishing coloring: *please kill me

[@scottlondon8382]

Hahahaha

[@businessisboomin7252]

I don't know why but whenever you breathe it makes me laugh lol... Your lines have just enough energy to express the feelings in different moments with every upload

[@Der_Key]

The reason for this is thicker outlines! Along with the hair looking better when sketched

[@AnEmu404]

Jokes aside, this literally happened to me a couple days ago and it was really depressing ahah. I’m gonna try to re-do the lineart from scratch today - maybe see if i can download some new brushes to try with it, luckily it was only half done. It can be really demotivating but hey, it’s worth another shot right? I might even edit this with an update if anyone cares lmao.

[@dragonicbladex7574]

The issue in this video seems to be a change in lineart variation lul, especially with the eyes

[@AnEmu404]

@@dragonicbladex7574 yep! Unfortunately, i didn’t have to purposefully change mine to make it look bad lmao. I did actually re-do the line art with various tips from helpful videos and it looks much better! Better than the altered line art in the video anyway ahah.

[@micy7182]

Only a couple of days ago? It happens to me every time :D Good luck on trying :)

[@AnEmu404]

@@micy7182 thanks! And actually it’s happened to me loads, i’d just been taking a break from digital art for a while and came back to it, only to have this problem ahah

[@chenoaholdstock3507]

As someone else noted, try to add line thickness variation

[@qtaroluvr]

This is the exact reason why I colour on top of the sketch and then proceed to ragequit whenever I have to adjust the contours

[@king_david__]

That’s when line weight comes in to make your lines look less “digital” or “flat”. When you sketch, some lines maybe larger and deeper than the others. This can be done with lineart as well

[@Flint_Becket]

Enough to make an artist cry

[@SylverScourge]

The redrawing of the cheek like 5 times is painfully relatable

[@davidci]

I feel this all the time. I think it's probably because the messiness and the random quirks of the sketch makes it feel more personal than a clean and straightforward outline.

[@lunarema9365]

I heard you’re a furry artist. As a fellow furry, could I ask you some questions on discord?

[@starstruck5547]

This is why I do my line art in a sketchy type of way, because I don’t know how people have the time and patience to do straight, perfect line art😫

[@bre6651]

I'm so so glad I'm not the only one yo! Half the time I love my little sketchy creations but the feedback I get all the time is "make it neater" and I still to this day struggle to find balance and not make my line work look like every other artist on Instagram. My best pieces are when I just paint over my sketch layer and then outline certain elements

[@b_mbyz]

i love the fact that he jad to intentionally make it look bad, hes just too good

[@skulletonn]

Maybe whenever he messes up he makes a video about it, I just think that because of how he couldn't draw these hands once and made it into a portrait instead and made a video about it

[@jadynkasondra]

Tip for this: make the lines have varieties in volume! It'll make the lineart a bit more spicey and it'll fix the problem of the sketch looking better than the lineart.

[@thewall4069]

Man, I love it when someone posts a relatable art video and artists in the comments give useful tips so people who relate to the video can improve.

[@LeArtistLecake-qx1qp]

OMG THIS IS THE MOST RELATABLE THING IVE EVER WATCHED!,

[@kits8276]

sketches tend to carry the vibe or the emotions of what you wanted to originally draw. I think that's why its important to always take a step back and ask whether or not you strayed away from the original point of your early drafts, regardless whether they're terrible or not. also line weight, yeah line weight definitely.

[@joedent3323]

You are right, I think - a varying line weight, as with traditional comic-books style brush-inking, would have made a huge improvement over the "dead-line" you get with a fixed point inking implement and technique.

[@LilChuunosuke]

I turned my "refined sketch" layer into my lineart layer for this exact reason. Especially because I find the more stressed I get about the lineart looking perfect, the worse it looks. And I find most people do like when things look a bit more loose and sketchy anyways. It means I can't really use the fill tool anymore when adding color and I sometimes have to go back to the lineart layer to fix small things here and there, but that's not too big of a loss when the reward is a much less stiff finished piece.

[@nekori_adrian]

For everyone feeling like this: try out varying line weight, it literally helps so much bc many use lineweight in the sketch subconsciously but forget in the lineart process

[@30pranaypawar17]

For everyone thinking this is real... its not... watch how different the line art traced and line art only picture is... he edited it in last one...

[@nekori_adrian]

@@30pranaypawar17 I think everyone is fully aware of that? It’s a meme and exaggerated but the message comes across, doesn’t it? As an artist, i can fully see that the “lineart” is done exaggeratingly bad but it captures very well how it feels when your lineart sucks in comparison to your sketch. I am simply trying to give out a tip I’ve learned to beginner artists who struggle with this (i don’t anymore, fortunately)

[@30pranaypawar17]

@@nekori_adrian yeah i get it now...

[@nekori_adrian]

@@30pranaypawar17 sorry if I sounded a bit passive-aggressive

[@30pranaypawar17]

@@nekori_adrian nope. I dont mind at all. There is always risking some aggression in the process of questioning and confrontation for a topic.

[@second_second_]

Sketch has its own charm. The freedom, the flow, it showcases the artist art freely

[@Thedarkbunnyrabbit]

For those who don't know: this happens because you don't allow yourself to be as expressive with the lines when tracing your sketch, and so you're making much shorter, stiffer lines with no concern for line weight or movement. It's especially bad if your sketch is too visible while trying to do the lines over it. A better way is to change the color of the sketch to something lighter, do another sketch over the first one that's cleaner, and then do a third over that one. You'll get the clean lines without losing all the weight and personality of the sketch, and without the wobbly, unfilled look.

[@supreetkaurgill9500]

*screams in traditional artist*

[@Thedarkbunnyrabbit]

@@supreetkaurgill9500 You can still do this technique with traditional art. Only use your ink/permanent medium on the final step. Step 1 - sketch Step 2 - loosely trace the sketch, but keep that flow, don't use inks yet. Step 3 - Either ink the second version or trace the second one but this time with inks. Your lines will be cleaner while also not being flat and ugly this way...but it means using 3 papers instead of 1.

[@Chikudo_]

I get around this by constantly erasing most of the opacity of my sketch with a soft airbrush and refining it into a more lineart feel, then redrawing the actual lineart on top of that

[@jeyyfyay]

Simple: just add color, that way you won't have to suffer.

[@jjsbeats3081]

0:13 the struggle is real 💀

[@frickinfrick8488]

If this is you, here’s a few methods that may help: 1. Clean up the sketch. Keep the parts you like and clean up the areas that need definition. Maybe try setting the sketch to “multiply” over base colours and blend it out a bit to create shadows in a sketchy or painterly style. 2. Blur the sketch a bit, make it a lighter and more saturated colour on a low opacity, and do line art over it. A few professional artists I follow do this and it can give the line art more character and variety. 3. Just don’t do line art lol, maybe coloured sketches or paintings are the way to go for you. Line art isn’t necessary for everyone’s work flow, I even know some anime artists that don’t do line art and instead just paint and add sharp lines where definition is needed. There’s a lot of advice for how to do good line art but you don’t have to do line art if you don’t enjoy it.

[@happuhelon]

Thank you, i think this is helpful

[@frickinfrick8488]

@@happuhelon glad to hear that :)

[@clarissanoels3351]

The gross amount of laughing this brought out of me is. Immense.

[@mollykickss]

Quick Tip: Turn the opacity of the sketch down, make it barely visible, then merge it with the line art layer. It always makes my drawings look better

[@radicaltrafficcone8284]

Fun fact, i once spent 2 hours doing lineart for a large complex drawing. When i went to turn off the sketch layer, I realised i did all of the lineart ON the sketch layer the whole time

[@lemonknife]

something that changed my life was realising i didnt have to start on a new layer and instead could just refine and clean up the sketch. it helps me keep the flow and depth the sketch has while still being clean! also adding line variation is definitely a great thing if you feel like your lineart is coming out flat. there are amazing artists who dont use much variation tho and that can also work very well! just overall try things out and see what fits is my advice

[@vinlytrash]

One tip. (which u probably know already) When In lineart stage. Always alternate between enabling and disabling the sketch layer just to make sure that the lines reach your desired liking and don't end up wobbly or not connected. Just for those who are having trouble with line art. P.s don't take my advice too seriously cause I'm still 2 years in drawing and there's a still alot I'm learning to improve my skills

[@mildlymarvelous]

And this is why, if I ever try making a graphic novel, I’m hiring someone better than me to do the inking

[@Kuzushii]

Just a small tip from an artist: if your sketch lines are thick and your lineart is thin, it will be a lot harder to produce the outcome you want because of the disparity in the thickness of the lines!

[@Ghost-qy1sm]

If your one of those people who make really cool sketches that are filled with life. One tip is that you should make your line art a little be sketchy around certain areas of the drawing so the line are doesnt suck the life out of your drawing Edit: another tip is after your done sketching turn opacity down super low so its not to dark and change sketch to another color it will make it a a lot easier to see where you are going with the line art

[@maddy.doesart]

I’m a traditional artist but I actually felt this so hard 💀 I have five sketches in my relatively-newish sketchbook that honestly looks pretty good but I refuse to do lineart on them or color them out of fear I’m gonna mess up 💀💀

[@Vanished584]

actual, physical pain. It has happened many times.

[@supreetkaurgill9500]

Same dude and I cant even recreate them on digital, I CANT DRAW ON DIGITAIL 😭

[@deadass9795]

when u make a drawing that you're planning on doing lineart for, use a light bright color. usually colors like cyan, magenta and green can be used for your sketch bc when you lower the opacity on the sketch layer it will be visible enough for you to line and will contrast against the black lines so you can see if your line is a bit off. also very common mistake i tend to spot: dont put in too much detail or rendering in your sketch unless your final piece is the sketch :P

[@-.BBerry.-]

Thats because the sketch has more line thickness. The parts where there is darker shadow have thicker lines. If all the lines have the same thickness, it will look a bit goofy(as shown in the video) Correct me if im wrong tho :)

[@UltravioletNomad]

The hard thing to get over, especially for me right now, is that sometimes your sketch represents aspects of the piece that won't be represented until you shade it in, the line art is just the bounding boxes, sight direction, and in some cases just the darkest shadows. And hey, if the lineart still sucks after that just throw you sketch back over the completed piece at 70% opacity and people will just think its a stylistic choice.

[@TheComicKid_]

I relate to this so much it hurts. For me it's worse because I do 100% traditional art, so I can't just spam CTRL Z for 2 minutes.

[@emibudd2228]

if someone is looking for tips on how to avoid this happening: -make sure you keep line width in mind, a sketch made with thick lines is going to look lacking if you ink it with thinner ones. try at least making your lines thicker to account for shading, nooks in the form and stuff like that. -if you sketch with grey and ink with black, use hatching to shade in the areas where the sketch used lighter greys (or just add greys to the inking). otherwise it takes away a ton of depth -certain parts of the drawing look worse if you only focus on polish: hair for example, it's fine if the line quality isn't perfect, what's most important is to get the texture down

[@supercoolmaniajon265]

I think the reason is because the sketch lines are thicker than the drawing lines. When tracing over, the tiniest bit of offset can ruin the proportions, and since it's the lineart, you can't really cover it up without making it look worse, especially if you're using pencil and pen.

[@happuhelon]

The line art at 0:26 is a paid actor 👁👄👁

[@jeremiahsmith916]

This happens because with the sketch our brain automatically imagines the best possible combination of this mess of lines to be the only one existing, and deceives us to see a better picture than it actually is. You can confirm that by showing your sketch to someone completely alien from your drawings, like your grandma, and they’ll probably tell you it looks messy rather than beautiful, because their brain does not have this bias. What helped me to get past this stage and start having actually decent linework is realizing my mind is playing tricks and refusing to accept the sketch as “good-looking enough work”. For me, it ain’t good until I make the final lines look good

[@blu.b3ll]

i don’t do lineart normally, i just use the sketch and fix my mistakes as i go along, in my opinion it makes my art look better bc i kinda like it messy and not exactly perfect ^^

[@iSchmidty13]

This is precisely why i make my sketch layer as light as possible to where it's baaaaaaarely visible It's plenty to help with the linework, but it blends into the white canvas and you can tell exactly what the finished product will look like!

[@jonjon6049]

As a digital artist myself, I find this REALLY relatable

[@zozophonchkey5300]

I think I know why the sketch always looks better. It looks better because it looks like it’s more detailed than it actually is, so once you clean it up it looses some of its details, making it look more unfinished or worse.

[@itzelmontalvo6645]

I relate. I always feel like: -My traditional drawing: 10/10 -My sketch: 9/10 But then my lineart and coloring makes it trash and look like an amateur work I HATEEEE IT. I just can't do any of them.

[@crystelsarts]

This is so relatable in every level of human knowledge

[@Splatcat]

I think you just gotta add shades... and maybe more sketches even though it's the out line, also shadows, I have this problem, so I have a detailed version of what I want, like a t-shirt or the neck needs a line here and there, I also use a posing app to show me where shadows would go, and so I can see the eyes and stuff, so just keep going with the process I say.

[@moonpowerofficial]

I used to have the same issue, but then I found really good line art tricks and it helped a TON.

[@mysterym6757]

Just slowly erase the sketch layer until it looks like lineart. Then use your backup you made (you made a backup layer right?) and you now have a lineart piece and a sketch.

[@NooaraIce-e8m]

I never had this but relatable

[@cowboydoctor23]

tip for artists out there: turn your opacity on the sketch layer so its barely visible when doing lineart! it helps separate the two so the lineart will look more complete on its own :]

[@DazsdWTP]

thats what i do, its a really good tip for anyone who doesnt do it already, im normally on like 8-13%

[@ikkibestboi]

Me, a sketch artist: I see this as an absolute win!

[@etteosh]

That sigh at the end got me xD

[@kitty.static.p0p]

This is literally the most relatable thing ever.

[@ViktorErikFade]

Having those "sketch-e /sketchy " lines is an aesthetic I tell you ! My suggestion/thoughts on it is to maybe make you like your artwork more (I love the sketch of this too) Trace over or mimic your lines from the sketch when you line the art ! :) Gives it the same "feeling" as the sketch does, maybe use a thinner brush setting to better capture the feel of the messy hair (???) Artists are meant to ......bend some lines now and then aye ? ;) (These are the types of sketches I love the most to see glad I'm not the only one that likes the sketch more than the lined art sometimes ) Bad joke?lol an attempt anyway I'ma head out

[@abdulrhmanmohamed1918]

I hate when that happens and why is there no reasonable reason why it happens

[@puggles9141]

I've been seeing a lot of comments about line weight/variation and it really is helpful. but you also need to keep in mind that there are other ways and tips to do better lineart too. -stabilizers are your friend! it helps you be more confident in your linework (if you plan to slowly not use it as time goes on). you can also do lineart that doesnt have to connect with each line all the time; it creates this clean, webtoon/cartoon feel, if you're going for that -flip the canvas once in a while, mirror it. rotate your drawing so that you can draw an awkward line much easier and faster. in this case (the video), if you are right handed, drawing the cheek would be an awkward stroke to make so flipping it can not only make it easier, but it would give you more confidence in making the line itself. -you can also use different colors for different layers so that you can see what you're drawing better. -opacity! there are also a bunch of comments that said this too but what i can add on is that: if you're afraid of starting the linework bc the sketch layer is too transparent (it does look daunting to start off perfectly), you can try starting with a 50-60% opaque sketch layer and slowly but surely make it more transparent as you become more confident in creating lines. check in once in a while with a completely transparent sketch layer to see the final linework too. -step back a bit. not literally, but zoom out and see the artwork as a whole. sometimes we zoom in to get that perfect line but we realize that it doesnt even match the whole piece. -this is just a general rule (not specifically lineart) but u need to take breaks bc what you're looking at may not look the same a few mins later. you can also use the sketch layer as the lineart layer and just clean it up a bit. hell, you can even go lineart-less and just put in blocks of color after the sketching process. dont be afraid to use tools at your disposal just bc "it doesnt make you a real artist" its there for a reason. use them. all in all, im just sayin that there is more to lineart than just the typical "brush stroke, light lines for light areas and vice versa" technique :] (and im sorry for any traditional artists out there, no tips for u. godspeed because i could never do what you do *salutes* )

[@IqzcFX]

i feel this so hard lol! at the same time i also quite like how you did your lineart it could honestly be a stylistic choice. I know it's not intended but the roughish line art kinda works with how your character looks like

[@kalebsithnerd119]

Same here It can be a struggle when it comes to line art but using line weight helps make the drawing really pop And nice clean strokes that go from thick to thin or the other way - which can be a little hard to pull off but can be mastered I believe in you! You got this!!

[@simonhope9590]

For those wondering, line weight makes all the difference. It's easy to overlook, but it is crucial for a good lineart

[@jackhammer4499]

I've seen people like Mark Crilley do line art that looks... like that, at first, but when he adds all the shading and details, it turns out he new exactly what he was doing the whole time. Idk, maybe "bad" line art isn't actually a big deal, depending on how far you wanna take the drawing.

[@KatrinaSalkowski]

Personally, the art looks so beautiful ❤