When The UFC Killed Off The Lightweight Division

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@colterwebb6382
@colterwebb6382 2 ай бұрын
bro these more historical themed videos yall have been doing are incredible. please keep them coming.
@blackheartmargo3429
@blackheartmargo3429 2 ай бұрын
Wild how lightweight went from almost being removed the one of the best divisions perennially in the promotion
@KimarKurosaski
@KimarKurosaski Ай бұрын
Basically opened the for all the would be undersized welterweights (Bj Penn)
@steelersgoingfor7in2024
@steelersgoingfor7in2024 2 ай бұрын
Nice Sunday morning video. Much appreciated.
@Four_2_Zero
@Four_2_Zero 2 ай бұрын
LW has always been a favourite personally to watch, that division has always been stacked with talent. Pray it never changes 🙏
@StroginMyBeef
@StroginMyBeef 2 ай бұрын
The documentary style videos you do are your best stuff, fellas
@jerdinwelch4960
@jerdinwelch4960 2 ай бұрын
Jen’s pulver is underrated
@DarthBinky89
@DarthBinky89 2 ай бұрын
Lil evil👹
@NadaRafal
@NadaRafal 2 ай бұрын
Jen is Pulver?
@Johnbobon
@Johnbobon 2 ай бұрын
​@@NadaRafal Apparently. 😂
@ryanmarsh-zy7pt
@ryanmarsh-zy7pt 2 ай бұрын
I think that Jen could beat Pulver especially at Lightweight
@bricktop.
@bricktop. 2 ай бұрын
I didn't even know that Jen even had a pulver tbh. I'm sure it's a great Pulver tho
@Day-ZDuke
@Day-ZDuke 2 ай бұрын
There’s a reason why Anderson Silva always used to tell reporters “BJ Penn” when they would tell Anderson he was the best P4P in the sport, or ask him who he thought was best BJ back then was an unreal talent, and just loved to fight. He was incredible during his prime
@ItsTheAtomicGamer
@ItsTheAtomicGamer 2 ай бұрын
Tom's long form vids are always such bangers. Keep up the great content, guys!
@hakr4751
@hakr4751 2 ай бұрын
The ufc robbed josh tomphson and yves edwards of their opportunity to win the ufc belt When these two were in their primes they were by far the best lightweights on the planet, but there was no belt to contend for That's why i was sad to see both of them years after in the ufc,way past their primes and just getting fed to young and hungry fighters
@Bluis5445
@Bluis5445 2 ай бұрын
Both cans
@707ridah
@707ridah 2 ай бұрын
Dana robbed them. He needed to be fired a decade or more ago
@petuniapaul758
@petuniapaul758 2 ай бұрын
@@Bluis5445all your comments on this channel are just bait. Embarrassing you need attention this bad.
@jininycricket7089
@jininycricket7089 2 ай бұрын
Yves Edward's sure. But by the time the UFC brought back the division Josh wasn't even in his best years. He was just chilling in EliteXC and Strikeforce in his prime.
@LgnSknks541
@LgnSknks541 2 ай бұрын
1:18 I've never heard "who" said so weird. 🤣 Great video as always fellas. Thank you. 🤙🏻🤙🏻
@KimchiFarts
@KimchiFarts 2 ай бұрын
I LOVE these documentary videos. Top notch!
@markwrenn5965
@markwrenn5965 2 ай бұрын
The retrospectives are the best content yall make.
@mylesmantripp7911
@mylesmantripp7911 2 ай бұрын
Absolutely loved this. More like this please and more Tom! 🥳
@aleksanderb.5254
@aleksanderb.5254 2 ай бұрын
That was fun and interesting video. This and Tom's previous video about the loss of Bellator's credibility are reminding me why MMA on Point got so big.
@kyledabearsfan
@kyledabearsfan 2 ай бұрын
The quality of your videos is crazy. Cool what a small group of passionate friends can do. Putting out some very important history too! You guys rock.
@KatoK-JL
@KatoK-JL 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for these videos it makes it easier as a casual fan to understand the ins n outs when trying to watch the ufc in chronological order
@tomtanaka841
@tomtanaka841 2 ай бұрын
LOVE videos like this on history, it's what you do best!
@LgnSknks541
@LgnSknks541 2 ай бұрын
Dana White sat under the Vince McMahon Promoter Tree. He doesn't like the little guys as much as the Hogans & Brocks. 😆
@jininycricket7089
@jininycricket7089 2 ай бұрын
For the time, sure. But then McGregor came around.
@theSuperviLLain_est
@theSuperviLLain_est Ай бұрын
@@jininycricket7089yeah that definitely changed his perspective. He goes with the hot hand now and will absolutely contradict past statements he’s made
@jininycricket7089
@jininycricket7089 Ай бұрын
I remember when women weren't supposed to fight in the UFC.
@dazwall5092
@dazwall5092 2 ай бұрын
Great video. That era was very difficult to follow. A lot of work has gone into making the video. Well done. Cheers.
@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123
@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123 2 ай бұрын
thx for these reminders for the younger fans , have not watched yet but will show why a BJ Penn is a legend of the UFC and not some journeyman when people look at his record
@Four_2_Zero
@Four_2_Zero 2 ай бұрын
There was more than BJ Penn who made LW what it was Anthony Pettis, Benson Henderson, Sean Sherk, Frankie Edgar, Jens Pulver, Clay Guida, Jim Miller etc. Lw has always been exciting to watch
@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123
@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123 2 ай бұрын
@@Four_2_Zero you obviously missed the video and my point .
@Four_2_Zero
@Four_2_Zero 2 ай бұрын
​@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123 what was your point? That he was a legend? My point is there is many legends of that division
@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123
@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123 2 ай бұрын
@@Four_2_Zero you don’t get the point that’s for sure . Look at the title of the video . The reason it was reborn in the UFC was only due to BJ Penn . That’s the point 🙏🏻
@HelloyHelolyt
@HelloyHelolyt 2 ай бұрын
@@AmsterdamPattayaThailand123 That's stupid
@markchapman2585
@markchapman2585 2 ай бұрын
Dam, 20 years went by so fast.
@EKk8819
@EKk8819 2 ай бұрын
The Fireball Kid is one of my favorite all time fighters! Gomi was literally an anime main character! His style and attitude was unmatched, he aura mobbed everyone back in the day!
@random__joe
@random__joe 2 ай бұрын
His UFC run was kind of a let down but I concur, the Fireball Kid is/was LEGENDARY
@EKk8819
@EKk8819 2 ай бұрын
@@random__joe yea his PRIDE days were the greatest. UFC just kept feeding him to wrestlers... Disgusting. Dana was trying to make sure the UFC guys beat all the PRIDE guys when he bought PRIDE. Thats why when Rampae KO'd his #1 star Chuck Liddell it blew up in his face!
@ynotefil
@ynotefil 2 ай бұрын
What's Good O.G Tom ✌🏼 MMA Right On Point 💯
@Rs3mocha
@Rs3mocha 2 ай бұрын
glad u gave takanori gomi his shine also mentioning his prime ended after his back to back losses in sengoku (right before entering the ufc) casuals who saw a washed gomi in the ufc just dont know
@phyllomedusatomopterna6719
@phyllomedusatomopterna6719 2 ай бұрын
Thank you for putting kawajiri in the video. He maybe wasnt the most successful fighter, but he put on some great fights. He was my coach for a few years and a great humble guy.
@roc3784
@roc3784 2 ай бұрын
Wow! This was done very well but I feel like it should've been a lot longer.
@skindred1888
@skindred1888 2 ай бұрын
Anyone else aware that bj isnt a shortened nickname of his actual name? Its his older nickname, baby jay.
@erreip_
@erreip_ 2 ай бұрын
Thanks Luke!
@SavagelandHunting
@SavagelandHunting 2 ай бұрын
Joaquin Hanson, Takanori Gomi, Killer Bee, Aoki
@davidsheilds7191
@davidsheilds7191 2 ай бұрын
Top work guys. Keep on trucking.
@Nickfor20
@Nickfor20 2 ай бұрын
Love these historical videos🙏
@nickverbree
@nickverbree 2 ай бұрын
Hell yeah, great video!
@sammednick8482
@sammednick8482 2 ай бұрын
awesome video, i learned a lot. thanks guys!
@johnpittsii7524
@johnpittsii7524 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for the amazing video
@procow2274
@procow2274 2 ай бұрын
Why are some of the names all Capital?
@franciscoramirez9867
@franciscoramirez9867 2 ай бұрын
13:02 I thought u were saying "shot clause" not "shock loss"🤣
@lennybogart
@lennybogart 2 ай бұрын
The music is too loud.
@nasermoqadam2499
@nasermoqadam2499 2 ай бұрын
14:54 what’s the song name please 🙏🏽
@44neelakandasarmak99
@44neelakandasarmak99 2 ай бұрын
15 min plus videos everyday,is it Christmas time now ?
@callumevans3186
@callumevans3186 2 ай бұрын
Great video
@NastyNefty
@NastyNefty 2 ай бұрын
I live for these type of videos
@Anonymous71892
@Anonymous71892 2 ай бұрын
Very well made!
@onewaywon2290
@onewaywon2290 2 ай бұрын
Well done!
@blacknapalm2131
@blacknapalm2131 2 ай бұрын
*The mythical beast known as 'Motivated BJ Penn'* is pound for pound the GOAT*
@Larkos212
@Larkos212 2 ай бұрын
Love the video but can someone please tell me how you see how people are ranked in 2003?
@tomclarkson1257
@tomclarkson1257 2 ай бұрын
1:35 lmao is that the PS3 startup sound
@HalfSeasOver
@HalfSeasOver 2 ай бұрын
These longer vids💥💥💥
@luna_kits2345
@luna_kits2345 2 ай бұрын
OG fighters were so raw it is real as it gets unlike today, they're trash talking like high-school virgins.
@SealoQ
@SealoQ 2 ай бұрын
08:10 BJ elbows the guy Guy: 🗣️🗣️AAAARGHH (screams like an insect)
@GS-to9oe
@GS-to9oe 2 ай бұрын
Revisionist history at its finest… Yes BJ faced Machida, but he wasn’t “The Dragon” yet…nobody knew who the fckk he was
@fnc5369
@fnc5369 2 ай бұрын
I thought the title was talking about when BJ Penn died.
@teagueroellchen2634
@teagueroellchen2634 2 ай бұрын
Am I gonna be the first one to say Jens Pulver was never that good, the competition level was just absolute shit back then and the UFC didn’t know any better
@EKk8819
@EKk8819 2 ай бұрын
Dwane Ludwig had the best cross moving backwards I've ever seen. I mean it wasn't even a pull counter, this guy would get on his bicycle and then sleep you if you chased him.. Dude was soo legit. I remember his UFC debut, everyone was hyping his opponent Jonathan Goulet like he was the next GSP and Ludwig slept him in literally like 2 seconds. The official count was like 7 seconds, but man his right cross was nast E !
@PaladinVentures
@PaladinVentures Ай бұрын
Penn is such a g though. HE SMASHED Gomi, then this is kinda the story of Gomi doing well while Penn was off on side quests. UFC brings back LW, Penn comes back and dominates for years - years and years later. Penn is so under rated. He basically got robbed in his GSP loss if you use the new scoring criteria in the first fight and lost due to injury while dominating hughes in their second fight. Penn is one of the most under-rated GOATS. Pretty much all his lossed during that era have huge asterisks (also like the Machida loss) and he was just running around being hardcore, being in my opinion the best fighter at WW and LW until GSP matured into who he became later.
@YoutubeISforMORONSlikeYOU
@YoutubeISforMORONSlikeYOU 2 ай бұрын
Every time you managed to get a good narative flow going, you interupt it with a movie scene. Every time! Its like if i was watching someone make a great speach and every time it gets good...they honk a clown nose.
@bludgeonedfate708
@bludgeonedfate708 2 ай бұрын
We need a sequel
@foggy561
@foggy561 2 ай бұрын
Nick Diaz deserves a spot on this list. He beat Gomi fair and square in Feb of 07', robbing Nick because of weed is shameful.
@eric_tha_ric
@eric_tha_ric 2 ай бұрын
If BJ Penn wasn’t a wild animal fighting at literally weight I think it is clear he could have put together a GSP/Silva streak at Lightweight. Before Frankie Edgar he only lost once at Lightweight. Again he didn’t really care at what weight he fought losing only to Champions in higher weight classes. It’s a great what if. That said I don’t think BJ would want it any other way.
@707ridah
@707ridah 2 ай бұрын
BJ Penn was way better than he was, he just couldn't retire. He was 13-3 before his 8 loss streak
@KimchiFarts
@KimchiFarts 2 ай бұрын
I wish I could like this video more than once
@Bullet730
@Bullet730 2 ай бұрын
They need to get rid of 125 and add a 165 or 195 division
@kylemartin2487
@kylemartin2487 2 ай бұрын
I think Tommy should be doing the lists & the lads should be doing these historical essays. Don’t get me wrong, I don’t hate the content when otherwise. I just believe Tommy’s style fits like a glove in that particular format whilst you all collectively are more storyteller’s than What Culture listers
@rashadalton2324
@rashadalton2324 2 ай бұрын
Ppl forget how much of a savage BJ was
@8301TheJMan
@8301TheJMan 2 ай бұрын
Yves Edwards was the shit back then, he was sort of a proto BJ Penn
@guerrerosioux
@guerrerosioux 2 ай бұрын
Takanori Gomi was the man during this days. I wish more western people know about him.
@benc6252
@benc6252 2 ай бұрын
Ultra Common Tom Ransom W
@JamesRobinson-j5t
@JamesRobinson-j5t 2 ай бұрын
The music is way too loud in this video. Have to ditch it a few minutes in because i can't stand it.
@aq3121
@aq3121 2 ай бұрын
07:31 Big John McCarthy from Wish
@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars
@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars 2 ай бұрын
Dana destroyed entire divisions at a whim at the expense of the fans and fighters among many other mismanagement gaffs but always got a free pass. At this point he only limits the reach and has out lived his usefulness. Slap fighting is now his path for growth? LOL. Dana the ultimate "DEI hire."
@Ghostkid6598
@Ghostkid6598 2 ай бұрын
Conor played a huge role in destroying this division, if he hadnt took a 2 year lay off we could have many great fights like Tony vs khabib, Tony vs Dustin and many more exciting fights at that 2016-19 period.
@skindred1888
@skindred1888 2 ай бұрын
...they still could've done it 😂 A fight that was scheduled 5 times...somehow McGregor's fault ?
@tcwentertainment
@tcwentertainment 2 ай бұрын
​@@skindred1888 othet title fights thay could have been engaged were messed up bdcause McGregor didn't wanna fight
@skindred1888
@skindred1888 2 ай бұрын
@@tcwentertainment which had nothing to do with what was said
@tcwentertainment
@tcwentertainment 2 ай бұрын
@skindred1888 with Tony vs khabib yea but Tony vs Dustin and other matchups woulda been easier had he fought but the fed coulda just stripped him
@skindred1888
@skindred1888 2 ай бұрын
@@tcwentertainment it's the ufcs fault. Nobody elses. Everyone wanting the fighters to be able to make more money, then when they do...everything else is their fault ? The UFC done this, not McGregor. Dana wanted that boxing match, and didn't want to lose McGregor as champion during it to sell it. Blame the company. Then on top of that...aren't they all fighters ? They can't fight each other because a clothing accessory isn't in the line ? 😂
@davidarchuleta2946
@davidarchuleta2946 2 ай бұрын
Lightweights fight til their burger 😮😮😮
@chingrimungrei
@chingrimungrei 2 ай бұрын
Ahh finally not Bailey
@Okami404
@Okami404 2 ай бұрын
Roll credits 🎥🎬
@JaredHancock-sw6ou
@JaredHancock-sw6ou 2 ай бұрын
Still waiting on a Jens pulver video
@paulc1553
@paulc1553 2 ай бұрын
Such a stupid decision by the UFC as Lightweight imo is the best and deepest MMA division ever. Love that weight class.
@skindred1888
@skindred1888 2 ай бұрын
Gotta think about the fans at the time. It's the lightest division, look at how many "fans" treat the flyweight division.
@Hoge1994
@Hoge1994 2 ай бұрын
Bj Penn was the greatest
@da_1nvad3r67
@da_1nvad3r67 2 ай бұрын
7:41 groin jirating music is extremely loud
@axltothemaxl5368
@axltothemaxl5368 2 ай бұрын
Just an fyi, from about 7 minutes on your voice is consistently washed out by the background music, probably fine for some people but for me it made it pretty annoying to listen to.
@snoopdaclown
@snoopdaclown 2 ай бұрын
Where was gomi on the list when he lost to diaz? Yeah I know it was changed to a no contest but still a loss. Weed shouldnt of made the decision to be overturned.
@Four_2_Zero
@Four_2_Zero 2 ай бұрын
That was in Pride not the UFC
@tcwentertainment
@tcwentertainment 2 ай бұрын
Doping , though in PRIDE thats pretty shit since thteye didnt trdt for roidd
@johndenver7035
@johndenver7035 2 ай бұрын
155 has been the greatest division for 15 years lol but ok
@CoolPandaTheMovieNerd
@CoolPandaTheMovieNerd 2 ай бұрын
Remember MMA On Point did fun lists before this new series of bitching about the way UFC has changed?
@TsolmonBuyndelger
@TsolmonBuyndelger 2 ай бұрын
Early
@JuanRivera-cj9wq
@JuanRivera-cj9wq 2 ай бұрын
First comment 🤙
@mrnoirsunsortedgoods7874
@mrnoirsunsortedgoods7874 2 ай бұрын
Bruh. I haven't watched it yet. But i nearly came seeing the thumbnail and title. Pulver, Aurelio, Gomi, bruh. The "dark days" od lightweight is only if you focused stateside. There was so much going on back then.
@joerogansdmtpipe727
@joerogansdmtpipe727 2 ай бұрын
Czzc
@MasenTowle
@MasenTowle 2 ай бұрын
12th
@Raymondtembo
@Raymondtembo 2 ай бұрын
You cant mention this division minus mentioning the Notorious!
@theunkownguy5574
@theunkownguy5574 2 ай бұрын
Yes you can lmao Connor is ass
@Four_2_Zero
@Four_2_Zero 2 ай бұрын
Dude has had 4 fights at LW and has a record of 1-3 so....yeah we can mention LW without mentioning Conor
@Ghostkid6598
@Ghostkid6598 2 ай бұрын
Connor ruin LW, he is the reason many fights didnt happen.
@Grateful-1992
@Grateful-1992 2 ай бұрын
With all due respect to the lightweight fighters who work their ass off, most people don't wanna see that ping ping shit. A fight between guys with the likelihood of knocking each other out is where the real excitement is for the everyday fan
@occiferfigpucker4840
@occiferfigpucker4840 2 ай бұрын
Ping ping... You must be one of the actors in the Harris real man ad 😂
@Qwerty-jy9mj
@Qwerty-jy9mj 2 ай бұрын
How much do you weigh?
@DarthBinky89
@DarthBinky89 2 ай бұрын
casual spotted
@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231
@theywouldnthavetocensormei9231 2 ай бұрын
155 has been one of the most exciting divisions since the sport evolved past specialists, it's right at the intersection where they have good speed and stamina, but they're also big enough to have some firepower.
@suavericosuave4412
@suavericosuave4412 2 ай бұрын
I think you’re confusing boxing lightweights with MMA. MMA is 155 and consensus best division in the sport for years with plenty of KOs and TKOs
@Pat315
@Pat315 2 ай бұрын
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