When They Finally Reprinted Fetchlands

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Preview Season for Zendikar Rising is fully underway, and we now know where fetchlands will be coming. Collectors boosters, box toppers and news of Modern Horizons 2 all bombarded us yesterday - I talk through it and offer some thoughts.
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Пікірлер: 672
@ChiralWolf
@ChiralWolf 4 жыл бұрын
I’m curious if the shoes are your size? Did they ask? Did they make a lucky guess? It seems like a weird thing if a WotC employee out of the blue asked for your shoe size, wouldn’t it? Edit: did they sub to your foot tier to get reference pictures?
@PleasantKenobi
@PleasantKenobi 4 жыл бұрын
Someone did randomly ask me. It was funny.
@Galchoo1
@Galchoo1 4 жыл бұрын
...out of the blue... ...the Jace shoes came out of the blue... Huh
@Xopher1222
@Xopher1222 4 жыл бұрын
They're Foot tier patrons
@victorsales4215
@victorsales4215 4 жыл бұрын
Can you imagine? "Hey mr. Pleasant, Wizards here. Would you mind telling us your feet size?"
@zztzgza
@zztzgza 4 жыл бұрын
Why are they making shoes?
@TolarianCommunityCollege
@TolarianCommunityCollege 4 жыл бұрын
How dare you have beliefs and opinions! This is why you don't get preview cards.
@SebaJaqueVideos
@SebaJaqueVideos 4 жыл бұрын
i thought you'd say that that's why he doesn't have a youtube channel.
@Thoughtmage100
@Thoughtmage100 4 жыл бұрын
As the kids these days say: "gottem".
@CripinIo
@CripinIo 4 жыл бұрын
Didnt you know that every 1/6 premium box comes with a code to get a spoiler for the next set?
@walkerh0682
@walkerh0682 4 жыл бұрын
Lol
@Bigsandwich5933
@Bigsandwich5933 4 жыл бұрын
@@SebaJaqueVideos HE HAS A KZbin CHANNEL?
@dab022
@dab022 4 жыл бұрын
WoTC: “We’re bringing back fetchlands.” Kenobi: *heavy breathing* WoTC: “You’ll be getting them as box toppers.” Kenobi: *screams in Warhammer 40K*
@RockmeHellsing
@RockmeHellsing 4 жыл бұрын
HERETIIIIIIIIC!!!!!!
@MichaelTheDragon47
@MichaelTheDragon47 4 жыл бұрын
HERESY INTENSIFIES
@arkangel7782
@arkangel7782 4 жыл бұрын
I can *hear* the sly marbo scream
@josephvandenberg2483
@josephvandenberg2483 4 жыл бұрын
Didn't they also state that the fetchlands were being reprinted in Modern Horizons?
@saladtop8499
@saladtop8499 4 жыл бұрын
WOTC is Papa Nurgle
@CssHDmonster
@CssHDmonster 4 жыл бұрын
kenobi, there is a marketing strategy that is based around confusing the consumer to the point where they use basic logic and assume that the most expensive version is obviously better, im assuming that set boosters and expeditions are used in this way
@Gonzakoable
@Gonzakoable 4 жыл бұрын
Isn't this used by phone companies?
@Bluecho4
@Bluecho4 4 жыл бұрын
Capitalism is the absolute worst.
@Alikaoz
@Alikaoz 4 жыл бұрын
They removed the "lottery win" feel of the old expeditions, but there's like 4 to 6 times more in circulation this way, as well as a guarantee of getting one per box.
@Duskraven377
@Duskraven377 4 жыл бұрын
There are already players who've ordered set booster boxes thinking that because they were called "expeditions" there was a chance of finding fetches in the packs.
@BrotherAlpha
@BrotherAlpha 4 жыл бұрын
While I would agree with you on this point when it comes to a lot of companies out there, WotC have shown they are just morons when it comes to this. This isn't malice, just incompetence.
@tylertaylor5999
@tylertaylor5999 4 жыл бұрын
" Gambling is only fun if you can lose....." Pretty sure that's Wotc mission statement....lol
@MH-dn3jz
@MH-dn3jz 4 жыл бұрын
Fun fact - I tend to be pretty active following Mtg because, well, the cube doesn't update itself. I'm pretty established and am the kind of player with enough background to parse their news. So when they said "Fetchlands are back as expeditions" I had NO IDEA that meant "Just box toppers" until this video.
@owneyw4374
@owneyw4374 4 жыл бұрын
Hey same!
@ActualZombeard
@ActualZombeard 4 жыл бұрын
Just here to complain about the paper modern paywall. And to feed the algorithm.
@johnmcelroy
@johnmcelroy 4 жыл бұрын
That Stirring Wildwood still haunts me
@ferdithetank7535
@ferdithetank7535 4 жыл бұрын
Creeping from under your bed Tar pit.
@OGNoNameNobody
@OGNoNameNobody 4 жыл бұрын
Be silly about it: try Mutate on it. See what you can make.....
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 4 жыл бұрын
I think I speak for everyone when I say we probably have Vince to thank for the return of The Fetchlands. Thanks Vince you fought well.
@solusaldrain
@solusaldrain 4 жыл бұрын
If you're cheering for fetchlands to be reprinted, cheer for the Professor of Tolarian Community College. The Prof is pushing for meaningful reprints. Fetchlands as boxtoppers is a token gesture that still puts wizards on top of the dominance hierarchy.
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 4 жыл бұрын
@@solusaldrain Oh yeah Prof gets a lot of credit for this too. Also they're coming in Modern Horizon 2(the fetchlands)
@owneyw4374
@owneyw4374 4 жыл бұрын
Me and everyone in my play group has agreed to just proxy everything, it really makes deck building more fun and leaves more options open. Plus you don’t have to sell your car just to afford your mana base!
@Mox_Normandy
@Mox_Normandy 4 жыл бұрын
I want to get my friends into modern and legacy because I started playing back in 06 and I like playing with the old cards I grew up with. But they got into later and don't have the established collection like I do. So getting them interested in a format where the mana costs 2x as much as the rest of the deck is hard. It doesn't feel worth it for them. There's a desire to play older formats from new players but the investment can be as much as your monthly rent and for someone just getting into it the game that gets daunting and not worth it. I wish wizards would realize the potential in getting new players in the eternal formats.
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299
@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 4 жыл бұрын
I hate promoting it but printing proxies so you can still play at that lvl might be a good way to go ;p
@ulipeterson6112
@ulipeterson6112 4 жыл бұрын
@@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299 why? As long as you aren't using proxies in tournaments, everything is fine. It's wizards own fault, that they don't want to reprint important cards more often.
@dandiaz19934
@dandiaz19934 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh, I've had the most fun with my friends playing proxy Modern Magic. It cost me like $6usd per deck. And as long as you're not playing at tourneys who cares. As long as WotC doesnt print the cards so the format becomes accessible, I dont feel bad about it at all
@trumpetperson11
@trumpetperson11 4 жыл бұрын
Storm is a great deck that doesn't usually run fetches since you don't want to shuffle after all the scrys you take. But yes, that is restrictive and disappointing that you can't pick up whatever deck you want.
@raymondshiner1046
@raymondshiner1046 4 жыл бұрын
I think the lack of reprints is evident that WOTC just doesn't care about eternal formats, they'd rather have everyone playing standard and arena, where the money flows one way and your deck expires every year have to buy more cards. also if everyone is playing the eternal formats they will get more people yelling at them to put it on arena, which i'm sure they don't want to spend the time and money to do.
@impendio
@impendio 4 жыл бұрын
As someone that owns a set (read: one-off) of fetchlands for commander, I don’t think that neither special frames or boxtoppers are a good enough reprint and the announcement for MH2 in Q3 or Q4 of _next fucking year_ is just an insult. I want to be excited about magic, I truly do, but I fucking can’t justify it for basically anyone not making a medium to high 5 figures. Every single one of my friends have come to breaking apart their commander decks and selling the pieces, we play “competitive” so it felt like a reward to slowly complete your deck, we play with proxies for duals and some higher priced staples but knowing that your effort could get you the real deal with time and stuff felt good, especially to me but I had a better job at the time than them so I could afford the extra mile. Now I’m just thinking, this format is literally unplayable, everything is ridiculously overpriced, buyouts happen every day and the incentive to just cash it out grows every single second. I got a Gilded Drake like a year ago for 60 bux and now it’s over 230, same with a bunch of stuff that wasn’t even original print higher rarity or not even reserved list but everything just keeps creeping and who am I to tell anyone, “hey, just sell your car so you can buy this pile of 100 cardboard rectangles!”. It’s fucking stupid and WotC is the only one to blame, this is a GAME, not a fucking investment equity fund bullshit. New cards look great? Who cares, no one can play with me anyways...
@GodwynDi
@GodwynDi 4 жыл бұрын
Been feeling the same. I agree when Pleasant Kenobi says its the best game ever made. But trying to play is getting stupid.
@lordxmugen
@lordxmugen 4 жыл бұрын
Paper MTG has become nothing more than an /r/MTGFinance circlejerk. Theres no incentive to get the cards because for the price you need to build a fun and cool deck (that isnt mono colored shit), you could get a car, a down payment on a house, a good retro game collection, build a computer, go on a fun trip, just ANYTHING ELSE that would probably be better (and FEEL BETTER) than overspending on old ass cardboard or new (shittier) cardboard. Something needs to be done about this.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I don't want to admit it... You're 100 on this one. Personally I only buy cards for the art nowaday, even on that note the art has gone to shit as well. SMH
@lordxmugen
@lordxmugen 4 жыл бұрын
@@Jonathan-qk5ed i saw the new art for Lotus Cobra (pack and box topper) and its just awful. The original just looked so awesome and fucking MAJESTIC! The new one just looks like something someone did over a weekend.
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 4 жыл бұрын
@@lordxmugen FR, not to mention every humanoid is done in a hyper realistic, CGI art style, with a very bland background (for the most part). Whereas old character art actually had things happening (ex. something as simple as Kinnan *bad* vs Snappy OG* *good).*
@josephs.4813
@josephs.4813 4 жыл бұрын
An expensive, flashy, fetchlands reprint in the form of a box topper is not a meaningful reprint. Bad WOTC BAD!!!
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 4 жыл бұрын
They're coming in Modern Horizon 2
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephs.4813 The MH2 reprints are still an abundance of cards entering the market in an available product. This is still good even if they don't drop single prices to $2
@ExHyperion
@ExHyperion 4 жыл бұрын
@@josephs.4813 bruh this man literally wont be satisfied unless they fucking shove fetchlands down his throat. Curb your pessimism. They're reprinting high demand cards in a set that's supposed to reprint a ton of high demand cards. If they just reprinted fetches in all every set then literally all decks will run fetchlands, which is not good for the game. We're already getting more fetch reprints than anyone could have hoped for.
@benlee2659
@benlee2659 4 жыл бұрын
In his defense you guys fell for this once already with the fetch lair and now you're about to fall for it again your just waiting another year to do it. Your now paying 150 bucks for the chance at opening a fetch land(singular) instead of 215ish for a set. They had promised a real reprit and honestly a lot of people are going to see this as bad faith. Not only were they printed as a box topped but you aren't even guaranteed to open one.
@ghostanbu1099
@ghostanbu1099 4 жыл бұрын
@@benlee2659 I don't think anyone called Fatch Lair a meaningful reprint 😂😂
@markmason2216
@markmason2216 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Vince for your linguistic analysis. I was one of the people who "suggested" expedition is the 'treatment/frame', after seeing your argument, I will 100% agree with your line about "seeing it different ways" would be very excusable. You're a pillar!
@zztzgza
@zztzgza 4 жыл бұрын
They're doing everything to still sell fetchlands at or near their secondary market value. Wtf WoTC, they're game pieces that are used to improve the Mana base of your card game. Just put them in regular boosters.
@BoucherRaphael
@BoucherRaphael 4 жыл бұрын
They don't give a shit lol. People still buy everything they spit out so it's not about to change, if anything the line is just going to keep getting pushed lol.
@jonathanrfisher
@jonathanrfisher 4 жыл бұрын
This is their model. Abuse the F out of secondary market value. It started as a game. It evolved into commodity production.
@Weasels42
@Weasels42 4 жыл бұрын
10:33 Semantics is the meaning of things. If WotC is going to change the meaning of words in the background and use words interchangeably, there's nothing wrong with trying to figure out what things mean, and sorting through the euphemisms and marketing labels is a part of that. Keep on keeping on.
@Eric_The_Cleric
@Eric_The_Cleric 4 жыл бұрын
The absolute M A D L A D S. Haven't we all been saying this is exactly what they would be doing???
@Jonathan-qk5ed
@Jonathan-qk5ed 4 жыл бұрын
This or Secret Lair: F Ya'lls Wallets #1
@supernoodles908
@supernoodles908 4 жыл бұрын
I'll just keep proxing fetchlands
@Nas0630
@Nas0630 4 жыл бұрын
Tfw you say "gottem" at the exact same time as Vince. #BetterLuckyThanGood
@kaydenbarney2941
@kaydenbarney2941 4 жыл бұрын
I for one always love hearing your input on reprinting fetches Vince
@gabesantos590
@gabesantos590 4 жыл бұрын
I think it was good on you to call out the misunderstanding people were having. I didn't even think about how confusing it could be. Especially if they didn't watch Magic's original video and only got their information from other sources.
@merlannin2108
@merlannin2108 4 жыл бұрын
So they still gate them to sell the set? If that isn't soft abuse of your playerbase I'm not sure what is.
@andrewsparkes8829
@andrewsparkes8829 4 жыл бұрын
@Jay Morales I'm actually kinda glad you two have no idea what abuse actually is. But don't be this stupid to compare a totally optional gaming product and hobby to even soft abuse like gaslighting. You are not even slightly locked into this 'relationship' through false fear of harming the other party. You just want good stuff for cheaper than it is. Huge difference.
@sandwichboy1268
@sandwichboy1268 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsparkes8829 Nobody is ever locked in to a relationship. They can always leave. It's just hard for us because WotC used to be good to us, and maybe they can change again...
@w47765
@w47765 4 жыл бұрын
@@andrewsparkes8829 If mana magically stopped being vital for a legacy and modern deck to keep up with another deck (in this very specific case fast mana) then people wouldn't complain. These are core functioning pieces found in all multi colored decks in Legacy and Modern. Do you run a multi colored modern or legacy deck? If it doesn't have fetch lands then it's strictly worse than the version of the deck that does have it. Now you will probably say WotC owns this game and aren't abusing and people are just griping about the priceon something not needed. This isn't the case though since WotC are abusing a system that they themselves have put on themselves in the past claiming "We wont sell you singles" but then making a secret lair with only said fetch lands and now they come to us as f**king box toppers. If these were different art versions of I don't know f**king "Uro" then that means people are complaining about how the shiny version is too pricy! Sadly as someone who would love to try Legacy and Modern in real life but sees the damn near 200-600 price tag on the f**king mana base I'm stuck only playing on MTGO. WotC KNOWS that the mana base and that mana in general makes and breaks certain decks and if they weren't abusing these fetch lands then they would be in the f**king core boosters ready to be cracked and flood the damn market several months from now. Not in another "Bling Bling" special edition that can have lord knows how few prints placed in them to make sure they don't flood the market! I've played this dumb a** game and several other competitive games for years on end and yes deciding to withhold a core part of the game via a s**ty pay wall is abuse! This is the same tactic used by Konami with Yugioh, 2k with their basketball series and EA milking the hell out of their Fifa franchise. "WE could make essential game pieces easier to access but nah f**k y'all pay us!
@andrewsparkes8829
@andrewsparkes8829 4 жыл бұрын
@@sandwichboy1268 You missed the important part: "through false fear of harming the other party". Yes you can leave any relationship, but WotC are not making that harder by playing to your emotions by saying "If you don't buy this, we'll fold and you'll have that on your conscience!" in the same way soft abusers do with the "If you leave, I'll kill myself!" sort of bullshit. They're just putting a product out there which you can easily choose not to buy. They are not emotionally abusing anyone. If anything, people who claim WotC 'owe' them anything are far more the emotional abuse type of people themselves, since they are the ones who are trying to guilt trip a company into giving them what they want.
@andrewsparkes8829
@andrewsparkes8829 4 жыл бұрын
@@w47765 Yes, but none of that means they are guilt-tripping, gaslighting or emotionally abusing anyone. It is simply not abuse and to compare it is to trivialize real abuse victims. I bet actual abuse victims would love to simply have a choice to buy an expensive booster pack or not. Saying this is soft abuse is the wimpy version of saying you got "raped" because someone beat you at a game,
@quasarkwell4823
@quasarkwell4823 4 жыл бұрын
"They're just in the box toppers, and the collector's boosters?" *Shwishes insults, complaints, disappointed curses around in his mouth, but only tastes the terrible aftertaste of token reprints* Vincent: "Eeuhh"
@ChaosArmoury
@ChaosArmoury 4 жыл бұрын
The whole thing was really confusing, especially since I didn't watch the announcement live. I read the Fetch lands would be box toppers and I was disappointed, but then Seth tweeted the enemy fetch lands would be in Modern Horizons 2, and I didn't know if it was a joke or not because Modern Horizons 1 specifically didn't have reprints of Modern-legal cards. I also agree about the Zendikar Rising Set Boosters. It makes it annoying to search my LGS' webstore.
@jdonvance
@jdonvance 4 жыл бұрын
I disagree that it is semantics. An "expedition" was a card in a booster pack. ZKR has boxtoppers with an expedition-style frame. It's NOT the same thing. AT ALL.
@jdonvance
@jdonvance 4 жыл бұрын
I will admit that I didn't know that in-pack Expeditions had a lower occurence rate (less than 1 card per box). It's still different.
@darrinschlangen4119
@darrinschlangen4119 4 жыл бұрын
As much as I would love fetch lands for decks, the cost of them is out of my budget and probably always will be. I ignore them and use shock and check dual lands instead.
@FrankChafe
@FrankChafe 4 жыл бұрын
There's nothing better than Kenobi angst/excitement about passionate topics. I could watch you rant all day.
@damonbaptista6774
@damonbaptista6774 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao I love your videos. Angry british people and Magic are two of my favorite things, and your videos mash them together perfectly 🤣🤣🤣
@owceania
@owceania 4 жыл бұрын
I remember when my best friend opened an Expedition Overgrown Tomb from a couple of packs we got him for his birthday. Dude was the most shocked and excited I’ve ever seen him. He still has it to this day. It’s a shame that people like him will never really exist going forward.
@dancook6114
@dancook6114 4 жыл бұрын
Same here. Very early on when I was just getting into the game I opened a misty rainforest. I managed to trade it for a whole binder full of rares that gave my collection a good kick start. With hindsight as an enfranchised player I kinda regret trading it but it was overall a great way to help me get a collection going
@vinnythewebsurfer
@vinnythewebsurfer 4 жыл бұрын
Jace shoe: plz step on me.
@LordOfWadles
@LordOfWadles 4 жыл бұрын
The boxtopper comment from Ultimate Masters hit the feels as I won 2 through drafts and opened 1 cavern of souls and 1 stiring wildwood.
@xXceejaybeeXx
@xXceejaybeeXx 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I think you're being very fair. Much more fair than I thought you could be. Subscribed.
@DeityDeconstruction
@DeityDeconstruction 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for helping to clear up Wizards confusing nomenclature
@fjsfi3jr983
@fjsfi3jr983 4 жыл бұрын
I'd love to see Timmy have access, but I do think people are underestimating the number of fetches coming to the market. 1 in 6 packs and 2 toppers means a collector box has an average of 4 pulls at the expedition slot, and should expect 1.3 fetches. Then also keep in mind, ZNR collector boxes have triple the print run of normal collector boxes and they're selling like mad three weeks out. I think there's exponentially more demand so I don't expect the same price impact, but for supply perspective there's way more fetches coming to market than the number of corona godzillas ikoria brought to market.
@Volkbrecht
@Volkbrecht 4 жыл бұрын
The question will be who buys the stuff. Will it be players cracking them for the cards or will a significant share of them gather dust on some shelf where it is kept as sort of an investment? That's the problem with not putting the fetches in regular boosters.
@pedroamorelli9795
@pedroamorelli9795 4 жыл бұрын
This man is always going in and saying the truth. Thank you Vince ❤
@Tacklepig
@Tacklepig 4 жыл бұрын
I really wonder why people say the "lottery" cards (aka expeditions) in draft boosters are gambling - while collectors packs LITERALLY are gambling. Draft boosters are for drafting, you're not supposed to crack them for value. With collector boosters, you can ONLY crack them for value. If anything, THAT's gambling.
@jerzane5617
@jerzane5617 4 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I feel like you’re the voice for thousands of us. Not everything is horrible, but there’s definitely things that could be improved on that Wizards does. And wow did you make 23-and-a-half minutes fly by!
@420Pikachu
@420Pikachu 4 жыл бұрын
Omg the K Swiss jace shoes you actually got em. Real mad lad
@sebigrell
@sebigrell 4 жыл бұрын
PK is our king wizard fighting to help us get our hands on the cards we need. Thank u Kenobi!
@TorinStOnge-wb7dr
@TorinStOnge-wb7dr 4 жыл бұрын
We're getting Enemy commander lands in Commander Legends, could they fit the Ally Fetches in as the Enemy ones are coming next year?
@joshuayoung1231
@joshuayoung1231 4 жыл бұрын
I like the Fetchland videos! Please keep them coming
@jongibson4766
@jongibson4766 4 жыл бұрын
The Expeditions in draft boosters were great. I never experienced it personally in any pods at my LGS, but I did hear people found it frustrating when one would get cracked in draft because a lot of people would just drop from the event to keep the Expedition without wasting their draft pick.
@Train__
@Train__ 4 жыл бұрын
Goddamn Vince, the line about paywalls got me so hard xD
@DavidArcher_
@DavidArcher_ 4 жыл бұрын
15:52 You keep saying that but my local game store in London has been running a draft every Friday (and a couple of Saturdays for Mystery Boosters and Jump Start) since the start of July. Events are happening, regardless of whether you choose to attend them or not.
@pykedj
@pykedj 4 жыл бұрын
When I found out the details I realised I was looking forward to this video more than the fetch lands.
@conoramoureux4630
@conoramoureux4630 4 жыл бұрын
Keep up the fight. Keep this in the spotlight. I would actually like to play some of my commander decks without having to shell out a grand
@edwardstafford2234
@edwardstafford2234 4 жыл бұрын
I personally agree with the comment about how having those kinda "golden ticket cards" can be fun and exciting for people who are just getting started in the game. One of the first years I was really playing magic was around BFZ and pulling an expedition from a random pack I bought (didn't even know about them at the time) helped me build my first constructed deck and get me really into the game.
@raydelmartinez2905
@raydelmartinez2905 4 жыл бұрын
I should know better than to listen to Vince while driving my 4 year old son home from daycare.. I swear one of this days he is going to ask... So, wtf are we eating for lunch today!? 🙄
@alfyb4512
@alfyb4512 4 жыл бұрын
I called it. I did say in the comments of one of last week videos the fetches would come as expeditions. Ok, I did not see master pieces being moved to box toppers, but hey, I still heartfully congratulate myself.
@KC_Enthusiast
@KC_Enthusiast 4 жыл бұрын
Borrowing a page out of Ben Wheeler's book with that opening
@ThaAmjab
@ThaAmjab 4 жыл бұрын
So you're the one who bought out all those shoes.
@freeejazzz
@freeejazzz 4 жыл бұрын
Vince, I love you and your content! As this pandemic has dragged on and as WOTC has refused to reprint Fetches, you remind me of a lone scientist, slowly descending into madness, making videos that you secretly suspect are only to record your fraying sanity, as you're stuck in some dystopian laboratory in some dark, gritty sci-fi movie. Anyway, keep up the awesome work and continue to hold WOTC accountable.
@OGNoNameNobody
@OGNoNameNobody 4 жыл бұрын
AGREED I would even say that the box-topper will buy us about 5 or 6 months of fetchland prices not GEOMETRICLY increasing!
@dethkid7
@dethkid7 4 жыл бұрын
This is my first time watching this channel and I thought it was Hungrybox talking about fetchlands
@NN_1618
@NN_1618 4 жыл бұрын
Warhammer Wednesday :/ just kidding haha, I get it, I do appreciate you making those videos along with all the hard work on MTG content!
@chrissimons996
@chrissimons996 4 жыл бұрын
I have been waiting for this video since i saw the spoilers.
@KingBobXVI
@KingBobXVI 4 жыл бұрын
Should just watch the announcement video - the spoilers and threads about them just made it more confusing than the very, very clearly presented announcement. Like, I'm honestly not sure how anyone came out of it not understanding that the expeditions were box toppers this time around.
@henrylopez4206
@henrylopez4206 4 жыл бұрын
I totally thought you said “zeitgeist spitting in my asshole” 😂 As someone who only got into the game two years ago and really wants to try out modern, I do not think you are being too critical in your analysis. Keep up the good work man.
@vivarus
@vivarus 4 жыл бұрын
They did say on stream that the collector's boosters would be print to demand and in terms of relative printings, there would be more ZNR Scalding Tarns than Double Masters Force of Wills fwiw. That seems like a lot more printed than the original expeditions and might actually put a small dent in prices?
@joshuanolet8679
@joshuanolet8679 4 жыл бұрын
I bought two double masters boosters because that was all I could afford. Pulled a Jace the mind sculptor. I am using that card to finance new commander decks!
@lus-an-tsalainn
@lus-an-tsalainn 4 жыл бұрын
That first minute; literally my reaction
@Dalenthas
@Dalenthas 4 жыл бұрын
I got a lot of mileage out of drafting Expedition lands in BFZ Limited. I had a rep at my LGS for cracking one nearly every week.
@ferdithetank7535
@ferdithetank7535 4 жыл бұрын
Considering Magic Historian's report on Wizards trippling the print run of Collectors boxes, I think they are pretty confident in people swallowing those without second thoughts.
@blacklanner5886
@blacklanner5886 4 жыл бұрын
2022 Return to Ixalan will have $1,000 boxes that are all Box topper packs with exclusive case toppers ... and full art foil basic lands.
@solarraine4902
@solarraine4902 4 жыл бұрын
Eyoooo! We early bois!
@Tsuna_SoulSilver
@Tsuna_SoulSilver 4 жыл бұрын
Just watch the quadruple the price of Modern Masters 2.
@DownAtrocious
@DownAtrocious 4 жыл бұрын
Too bad fetchlands won’t
@singedthemadchemist1616
@singedthemadchemist1616 4 жыл бұрын
Eyoooo!
@CardShopReality
@CardShopReality 4 жыл бұрын
Ironic because this guy said just last month/week if Fetches were "BahX Tope-Uhs" he wouldn't be upset. And yet here we are with this video like a week later.
@fredrikgranstrom6743
@fredrikgranstrom6743 4 жыл бұрын
Really
@karlmakesthings
@karlmakesthings 4 жыл бұрын
Magic is a harsh mistress, it's going to be interesting to see how it develops over the next few years if they are doing shenanigans like this. Also I just remembered you play Blood Angles, I made a tutorial on how to paint them you should check it out :).
@FrostbiteCoyote
@FrostbiteCoyote 4 жыл бұрын
I only ever bought one Battle for Zendikar pack. First booster pack i ever opened and i got an expedition wasteland. Didn't have any idea what i had till a year later. I personally care about expeditions appearing in regular packs. It gave players like me who couldn't afford valuable singles a chance at something good.
@choccymilk7913
@choccymilk7913 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice that you are still positive about mtg. I am very depressed about it, I don't want to play standard and I can't play modern. Both formats are too expensive and changes way to much due to bans and new broken cards that invalidate older cards. So far I've shifted towards playing dota 2, but I still find time to play edh twice a month.
@flintyminty3665
@flintyminty3665 4 жыл бұрын
On the whole I'm actually pretty excited about all the new stuff coming, and the reprint was about as good as I expected it to be. I do wonder if they did the Modern Horizons 2 announcement with fetches just to lessen the backlash though for the less than ideal reprint with the expeditions.
@violetlazuli3998
@violetlazuli3998 4 жыл бұрын
Holding out hope they will be on the old border sheet in time spiral 2 as well. Every opportunity
@EdgarClay
@EdgarClay 4 жыл бұрын
I am strangely almost always excited for new magic. I'm always sad for rotation of certain cards but shiny new baubles are almost enough 😂
@danthorelli5140
@danthorelli5140 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Vince! i love your banter and keep it up! How would you think standard would look like if Fetches became legal?
@Add3Mana
@Add3Mana 4 жыл бұрын
Love the shoe crossover with Dies to Removal.
@joeferreti9442
@joeferreti9442 4 жыл бұрын
I think you mixed up Boxtoppers with Buy-a-Box Promos. Although very similar in how you get them, there are differences. Boxtoppers are put on the inside of the box by the manufacturer. They're pulled from a list of cards. Buy-a-Box Promos are put on top of the box by the LGS only as long as supply lasts. There's usually only 1 per set.
@demonhitman
@demonhitman 4 жыл бұрын
I think it awesome. Box-toppers and a MH2 is all thats needed
@leoanselmi5033
@leoanselmi5033 4 жыл бұрын
I actual like some of your content Vince. It's just frustrating for some of us when every video is about the same thing or when it gets brought up in other videos I'm trying to enjoy.
@marloncoelho4841
@marloncoelho4841 4 жыл бұрын
I think we haven't been pressuring WoTC enough with those Fetchland Reprints.
@hellheaven11
@hellheaven11 4 жыл бұрын
Flossing a dead horse is a really good song from NoFX in the 90's 😉
@Ravynsrage
@Ravynsrage 4 жыл бұрын
You crack me the fuck up, keep doing what you're doing!
@JakeMGolle
@JakeMGolle 4 жыл бұрын
Oh I've been anticipating this video
@thatsedzoonth
@thatsedzoonth 4 жыл бұрын
I loved the old expeditions but the new ones look sweet as hell!
@mattshuey1
@mattshuey1 4 жыл бұрын
As an english only speaker can I ask you to add subtitles?
@batmanwins5701
@batmanwins5701 4 жыл бұрын
This fine chap speaks the Queen’s English with a fervent verbosity and perfectly cogent, delightfully lilting, cadence! Try taking your fingers out of your ears geezer! 😉❤️💂🏽‍♂️🐟🍟🇬🇧
@mehtheorc
@mehtheorc 4 жыл бұрын
0:57 pretty much exactly how I feel lmao 😂😭 And yeeeep my buddies and I had a long and confusing conversation about where the expeditions would be. Clearer communication would be nice 👍
@CharlieDebts
@CharlieDebts 4 жыл бұрын
Also the draft and set boosters. WAYY BIG DETAIL
@KuganeGaming
@KuganeGaming 4 жыл бұрын
I like the format of your videos lately =), they seem more neutral. Keep it up!^^
@gravytrain73
@gravytrain73 4 жыл бұрын
As soon as I saw the announcement, I came to see if you had a video yet.
@TheMcK777
@TheMcK777 4 жыл бұрын
I remember having to get the original 45 for a personal project of mine. This is just...weird. At least the nagging chance of pulling an Expedition Land was always there instead of locking it behind some sort of gimmick packs or toppers.
@sethevans5210
@sethevans5210 4 жыл бұрын
Now that you got us the stone forge mystic and fetch lands back, you should tell us what the next cards you are going to bring back or un-ban and then you could become the biggest mtg finance channel, no floppy tacos Just beautiful beard.
@supplanter_j5946
@supplanter_j5946 4 жыл бұрын
They should have put them in 1/6 draft boosters but fineeeee I’ll take a free “expedition” in my box 😂
@Strik3r1090
@Strik3r1090 4 жыл бұрын
I've bought loads of boxes from Magicmadhouse in the UK and none have toppers in them. I still think they're only in LGS boxes
@Asmodeus555
@Asmodeus555 4 жыл бұрын
There are still traditional expeditions though, there "the list" cards in set boosters right? I don't think we know what those are yet but you presumably some of them are quite valuable even though there aren't fetchlands on this list I think(?). So we do kind of get both. I wonder how often these expeditions show up in collector boosters?
@HaominYuan
@HaominYuan 4 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure you are confusing box toppers with buy-a-box promos, which are limited run, and only available if you buy a box from a LGS, which made them super rare since only the first few buyers can get the cards before they ran out. Box toppers originated in the master sets, where they had an individually wrapped card with different enlarged artwork without borders, and every box is guaranteed to have one because it's included in the box, and not given out by LGS store owners like buy-a-box promos are. Regardless, your point about too many naming conventions still stands.
@dalebird1482
@dalebird1482 4 жыл бұрын
I think what they're doing, is letting the supply increase really slowly. They'll reprint them in increasing amounts, a trickle at first, then turn up the flow, so the collectors cant complain too much i.e. I think they're telegraphing/pulling the punch for collectors.
@monkeygame7
@monkeygame7 4 жыл бұрын
Haven't finished the video yet, so sorry if you end up addressing this. I think it's completely illustrative of your point about changing terminologies and being unclear, there is a difference between box toppers and buy-a-box promos. Firesong and Nexus were buy-a-box promos, which are mechanically unique and a single specific card. They still do these (they announced one for Zendikar Rising). I think with these, the stores get the promos and give them out when people buy boxes. Buy-a-box promos come sealed inside the actual box, and is not a new card. There's also chance involved with these cuz it's not a guaranteed card. I don't think this really takes away from anything you say, if anything it reinforces it.
@ferdyahern4355
@ferdyahern4355 4 жыл бұрын
i love fetchland videos, continue please
@fatpad00
@fatpad00 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like the Godzilla cards in Ikoria was the test for new masterpieces, much like expeditions were originally. I'm guessing they're doing it this way because od the gambling concerns. I've said it before, but I believe collector boosters and now set boosters are a red herring/whipping boy so when the man comes around to shit it down, they can sacrifice set/collector boosters to appease the suits and save draft boosters
@joemoney877
@joemoney877 4 жыл бұрын
I'm over here, just waiting for Jump Start to be available. I'm want to play that set.
@frankthomas5007
@frankthomas5007 4 жыл бұрын
started following the channel around dragonball bee, keep up the good work. in the spirit of 40k wenesday 2 wound death company. FOR SANGUINIUS fellow blood angel player.
@PleasantKenobi
@PleasantKenobi 4 жыл бұрын
I csnt wait.
@Meetchol
@Meetchol 4 жыл бұрын
I have noticed a lack of mention by most people who discuss the expeditions that the availablity has gone up many times. Instead of one in a lucky couple boxes, now there is one literally every box (multiple in the case of collectors). This is fantastic for supply!
@PleasantKenobi
@PleasantKenobi 4 жыл бұрын
I agree, hence why I believe its going to make a dent, where OG Expeditions didn't.
@Meetchol
@Meetchol 4 жыл бұрын
I mean how many boxes will be opened in the world, theres tons!
@des-trina
@des-trina 4 жыл бұрын
I got two expeditions at both the BFZ and OGW prereleases. Never opened another one ever.
@cyberfutte
@cyberfutte 4 жыл бұрын
Introducing a new Magic product: "Loot from the boxes". Yay.
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