When Winning Didn't Matter: LeBron & the Era that DESTROYED the NBA

From the dawn of time in basketball history, winning has always been the main barometer of greatness...until an era's best player couldn't win.

[@mylifenotasliz]

“When you're good at something, you'll tell everyone. When you're great at something, they'll tell you.” - Walter Payton

[@leeronald3645]

“(I am) the greatest player of all time” - Lebum James

[@BernardBethea6339]

@@leeronald3645 I want my respect lol last I look respect was earned not given after that clown said that I was done with him

[@DaLoganFrost]

R.I.P SWEETNESS

[@davidmolina9166]

SWEETNESS WAS AND STILL IS THE GREATEST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@blackwidowsm]

Sweetness was indeed greatness. He could lay some of nastiest blocks on you too!

[@Nix-qq5je]

LeBron represents everything that is wrong in the NBA. I can't wait for his retirement.

[@maximillianschauer1439]

It's too late. Cuz now these young kids think and act just like him. Jalen green Ben Simmons DeAndre ayton Joel embiid ja mordant etc. We just keep moving the goal posts. And they all act entitled and shit. Only faces il respect leading the NBA after his retirement is Gianni or jokic or Luka because at least they care. Notice how I only mentioned euro players........

[@Lord_LeGOD_IS_BETTER]

Lebron is better than jorbum and kobrick

[@Ezekial2517]

@@Lord_LeGOD_IS_BETTER yeah at flopping and airballing free throws. He’s amazing at that.

[@paulkhamvongsa7180]

Flop master Flex is goat 🐐

[@Lord_LeGOD_IS_BETTER]

@@Ezekial2517 you sound like a jealous hater.

[@konbounma7857]

A masterpiece yet again. The era where you pay people to say your the goat, instead of winning or earning it. Then disrespect the greats who paved the way. Great video my guy.

[@skap_attack]

Thank you! And many thanks for continuing to tune in and support the channel 🙏

[@konbounma7857]

Keep doing what you doing. Luv your work. Expose this era and clutch sports. They ruin the game for alot of us. Thank you for these videos.

[@vitokorlestonedgaming2784]

Finally. I don’t feel crazy anymore after finding this channel. Im a big Jordan/ Kobe guy but I’d give LBJ his props if he didn’t team jump….you can’t be the king if you run from team to team for titles….

[@Shawn-Leider]

Lebron deserves all the props. He’s just simply not as good as mj

[@hashmoncrief6965]

​@@Shawn-Leider😂😂😂😂😂 he's not better than kobe, magic, Larry bird,Kareem. LeBron does not deserve props🤡

[@Irishmule169]

@@hashmoncrief6965 Dominique Wilkins would of torched Laflop!!

[@reality144k]

I always said Jordan changed the paradigm of winning while Lebron changed the paradigm of losing

[@AfrikanLifestyle]

Yep, Bron might be the greatest loser of all time😀..To be honest though, Jordan is a part of the media driven marketing of the NBA. Not taking anything away from what he and the Bulls did. David Stern, who didn't soot one shot or get one rebound is the singular most valuable asset the league has ever seen. He helped to create the MJ frenzy with his brilliant marketing strategies. There are 9 players who have won more rings than Jordan but will never be considered important to the game. Karriem, the NBA's all time leading scorer for 37 years, who also won 6 rings is very seldom if even in the GOAT conversation. So it seems winning takes on a different value and importance when we talk about MJ unlike anyone else to ever play the game.

[@reality144k]

@@AfrikanLifestyle 8 of them were role players tho, but not the goat Bill

[@jamesbrickner5159]

@@AfrikanLifestyle Lew Alcindor wasnt the bus driver for all of those rings, how can you just ignore that fact? Thats why he is rarely mentioned. Can you honestly say that Jordan wasnt the clear best player on all of those Championship runs?

[@bwink23]

​@@AfrikanLifestyleThere have been plenty of great players in the league before Jordan. But Jordans charisma and electricity he brought to the court was captivating. He had Bird and Magic calling him that best player in the league his rookie season. He made NBA All-Stars look like kids. Isiah used to say, "Jordan treats us like we are in high school". Trust me kid, the level of superstar your dealing with will dictate marketability. Did you watch "AIR"?...Nike dumped their entire budget on an unproven rookie, AND gave him a guaranteed percentage of profit on every shoe that branded his name and moniker. In that time, NO ONE did that. But, they saw what most people saw. A future legend who could change the game. David Stern had nothing to do with that 🤦

[@gnnacharles1]

@@AfrikanLifestylethere are kinks in your armor. Jordan game produce his marketing,it started in college, go look and listen to commentators during his 2nd and 3rd year in college, Stern was not a believer in Jordan’s game till after his first Championship, Stern used Jordan to promote the league outside U.S Jordan promoted himself without “social media “ before he started winning Championships, before Pippen or Phil Jackson, sorry people who were there are still alive.

[@raveun2thejoy]

I don't tell anyone this often but I do believe it is appropriate and reasonable to rank Tim Duncan ahead of LeBron James.

[@guacamolechild2715]

No….

[@ghostflame9211]

any real basketball fan would at least entertain the notion. duncan and his spurs are one of the most slept on dynasties ever. timmy is easily a top 10 player, and if he was ever someones favorite or highest ranked, i would understand why.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

Oh I have always thought that Duncan ranked ahead of Lebron! More championships, fewer losses in the Finals, 19 consecutive playoff appearances (every year of his career) and 50+ wins during each of those regular seasons (save for the shortened lockout 1998-1999 season) to boot! Duncan was way more consistent than Lebron in his playing on the court; he made his teammates better; stayed with one team all the way through and never once thought about leaving the Spurs for "greater glory"; had better relationships with his coaches. The Big Fundamental will always be golden! He almost always gets skipped over when it comes to discussing Kobe or Lebron as being the G.O.A.T. after Jordan retired the second time.

[@fullmetal1766]

I certainly rank him ahead of lebron objectively I have lebron about 11th

[@verz3649]

Even Kobe should be rank above lebron!!! Lebron left the cavs because he could not pass from Boston with kg, Pierce and Allen. And Kobe beat those guys with an old gasol!!!! Kobe won 2 without super teams.

[@meg-k-waldren]

Another epic. The hardcore truths. Well said - the bare minimum to be remotely in the GOAT conversation is that you dominate your era. You can't be thinking about other eras when you haven't even dominated your own era.

[@bwink23]

The insanity of it all lol. I would love to see where LBJ would be right now if his butt cheeks weren't full of needle holes like a pin cushion.

[@well.thy.one.]

@@bwink23lol

[@Shawn-Leider]

Exactly there was no question who was the absolute bonafide best I’m Jordan’s era. People did love Hakeem. But no one thought he was as good as Mj. Lebron hasn’t even led the league in almost all of his years in a single stat. The way Jordan led his league in a wild amount of stats.

[@williemaykit9792]

MJ clearly set the bar too high and we've constantly had to lower it over the years to keep LeBron in the conversation. But even after lowering it, LeBron still couldn't pass him.

[@jlui21]

-- I now have MJ 1, Kareem 2, and Lebron 3. P.s. I have Bill Russell as the GOAT Herder b/c 11 rings is a lot but also started with a league of just 8 teams (and ended with 14), but still dominated Wilt as a team so yeah, GOAT Herder.

[@aztn19]

We didn’t need to lower the bar for Kobe; he came the closest to Jordan still.

[@SmoothOperator2013]

MJ couldn't beat Bird. And Bird made a fool of Kareem.@@jlui21

[@jestermonk6805]

He is literally the biggest hype job in human history

[@cygnusprime6728]

Literally. If he was that good you wouldn't need to control the narrative and force the conversation so many times.

[@jennyanydots2389]

That would be Elund Munsk

[@theteleisewilliamsexperience]

We all know one of the reasons he left the Heat is because Pat Riley, Zo and the rest of the organization wasn't gonna let him destroy the team asking 4 players they'd be stuck with once he moved on.

[@drosales43]

He bailed on his "friends" to continue to chase a legacy...

[@manz7860]

I remember at the time, I cut him some slack. Maybe he really did want to play back at home. In retrospect, he went back just to bleed them dry of their assets. Left Cleveland again to repeat the process on my beloved lakers. One more year of this crap.

[@demonkingbadger6689]

@@manz7860 one reason why i think Cleveland would be insane to take him back to retire, while he did get you that one ring, he did leave your team in shambles twice. And they seem to have a good young corr developing.

[@MegaMjjordan]

@@manz7860bro cmon every man has his faults but by the 4th year Wade was no longer the same from injuries and Bosh was his only best bet but that even got cut short. There’s no way Lebron is asking Pat for more players to trap the heat when Both Bosh and Wade were on the books in 2015. If Lebron stayed in 2015 they aren’t getting big names nor trading Bosh/Wade for any.

[@gailgilliam620]

@@MegaMjjordanj

[@andredepaulo2875]

Great video. People forget when Lebron joined the Heat he was the back to back MVP. What’s even worse was his performance against Dallas in the 2011 Finals. How can ppl (and Lebron) say he is the GOAT after that performance where he averaged 17.8 ppg and was the 3rd leading scorer on his team? It’s ridiculous.

[@skap_attack]

FIFTH leading scorer in that series!!! As a back to back league mvp in his 8th year. It delegitimizes his GOAT case for all of time. And I am working on a longer video about the complete timeline of the super team era lol. Would love to do a deep dive on the 2011 finals series as well tho.

[@Wedarealsinnas]

its like they forget he was already a two time mvp and choked in the finals name me a superstar who did that and is considered the goat

[@skap_attack]

@@Wedarealsinnas you’re preaching to the choir here. He was invalidated forever in 2011. How are we still discussing this in 2023 😂

[@Shawn-Leider]

It’s wrong to point at one series. What u can point at is Jordan leading the league def and offense overall with mvp and dpoys and a ton of stats while lebron has only led in a single stat a couple of times.

[@theungreatkahli]

Oh yeah the team that swept Kobe?

[@jeanpayano1506]

The sad part is that Bron is a great player but his fans and the media love to put down other alltime greats which creates resentment towards him also they rarely hold him accountable is always some one else fault

[@roybacanimusic]

He put a target on his own back when he said "That right there made you the greatest player of all time.".

[@willn8664]

" not one, not two, not three, not four, not five, not six, not 7....."

[@shatoshi331]

Because he's the greatest

[@amostlyreasonableguy]

@@shatoshi331the greatest doesn’t have a mental breakdown and give up against the 2011 Dallas Mavericks, looking lost and dejected in multiple 4th quarters.

[@TonySiragusa99]

@@shatoshi331more finals losses than wins and he’s still behind MJ with 5 more seasons played

[@strategicthinker8899]

The LeBron story just shows how you can manipulate people's minds by simply declaring yourself the greatest and then having the legacy media amplify it. Worked with Mohammad Ali too. In his case he actually backed it up while in LeBron's case he didn't.

[@siner2442]

It’s ridiculous and an insult to even compare MJ to him… it’s basically propaganda. I remember their some poll that said Lebron was the most hated Superstar than they had another one that said Lebron was the most liked!? How does that even make sense…

[@GVocalz3]

EXACTLY!!!!!! I’ve been shouting this from the top of the mountain since he opened his mouth, he wasn’t even CLOSE to being in the conversation until he made that statement.

[@iamsheron7408]

You don’t think lebron backed up the expectations that was put on him in high school his considered a top 3 player of all time. What your argument here

[@barney5583]

iamsheron7408, he's backed up his expectations by being a fraud. He backed up his expectations by being the greatest Legm of all time... too bad his luck ran out at the end otherwise he could have frauded his way into convincing most that he's is the goat instead of just the kids that don't know any better.

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

That's kind of like Michael Jackson who was desperate to push that King stuff and was desperate to be like Elvis. Learning his moves marrying his daughter. Kind of like LeBron pushing himself to be king and desperately trying to be like Jordan copying his number etc. At least Jackson had some nice songs.

[@chew2live]

Just insane to see the amount of vids you're making in such short time. Really am enjoying this series. Thank You

[@skap_attack]

Thank you so much for saying so 🙏. Definitely hasn’t been easy but I’m on a mission lol. And getting faster at every stage of the video creation. Luckily for me the “story telling element” is the easiest and most natural. Thank you for watching 🙏❤️.

[@millianalove]

@@skap_attackInspiring ❤️

[@sleeposaki49]

The epilogue got me wrapped up, it was the perfect explanation of what competition sports really means and how LeBron has spear headed this young generation into accepting participation awards and anything other than 1st place as long as they play somewhat well, "they can live with the results" a bullshit mindset created by LeBron and accepted by inferior athletes and fans to avoid the feeling of failure 😊pathetic humans and they wonder why everything is frowned upon by older generations, it's not hate, it's an assessment of a weak mentality and it translates to other areas of life, so many people are afraid to compete and lose, that they accept cheating and stacking the odds and pass it off as being the "smarter" person when in reality it's cowardly, LeBron also made it okay to have excuses and blame others for failing, it's a very toxic mindset, just look at how his fans act towards other basketball fans when they disagree with them, I rest my case 😴

[@skap_attack]

Firstly, thanks for watching and I’m glad you enjoyed. Secondly, I agree with your entire premise. And I also made a video on that a few weeks ago. Describing the scarcity and overall lack of Alphas in todays sport. kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJyTg5t-ep2Dh5Y

[@logician3641]

Bro this was pure philosophy!!

[@hoolemere7584]

It’s interesting how LeBron is always called the best in his era when Curry arguably did more in LeBron’s own “Era”. Curry set up Golden State Warriors to be a dynasty winning the same amount of rings as LeBron and has the winning record over LeBron in the NBA Finals. Curry also changed the whole game of Basketball yet overall you don’t see a lot of people saying he’s the GOAT over MJ like they do with LeBron.

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

I hate Lebron, but it’s bc Lebron was carrying not so good teams deep in the playoffs, I have never seen curry do that, you could argue luka can even do it, but not curry, and curry is one of the only guys who stacked with another top 3 superstar guy immediately after losing in his 2nd finals appearances and the 2 rings curry won without Kd have big question marks on it, it’s the same with lebrons rings and such, but he at least carried bad teams deep in the playoffs and had moments on the heat that he could dominate with only dwade on his team and reach finals

[@Herzeder]

Curry started winning when LeBron was in his 12th year lol.

[@Ezekial2517]

@@theonlygoodonehere2259 oh yes, deep in the Leastern Conference, all while he diluted the conference by joining at least two all-stars and signing every significant role player. The only team that could give him trouble was the Pacers at that time and that was only for two of the 9 seasons he was out east making the Finals.

[@thepubknight6144]

​​@@Ezekial2517hat the hell was steve a smith smoking when knows damn well the pg is stephen curry....jesus these dudes on tv are reactionary keys dangling in front of cats types curry is the definate goat of this era....also kd has two all defense teams russ got 6 first team all defenses....lebron has one....ONE

[@theonlygoodonehere2259]

@@Ezekial2517 again, pretty sure curry and kobe can't carried those trash cavs teams, lebron literally took us to 7 games with a healthy celtics team, while we beat kobe's in 6, and he picked apart our defense better than kobe, I think kobe better than lebron, but lebron knows how to at least carry bad teams

[@cpimpmr]

I've never heard LBJ get so eloquently get destroyed and with nuh thin bud facts😂😂😂 This was awesome.

[@skap_attack]

Thank you, thank you, thank you 😂🙏❤️

[@william1077]

Continue to destroy that clown Mebron James!

[@vitokorlestonedgaming2784]

You truly do destroy the hype with facts. The media has blinded half the world with BS

[@skap_attack]

@@vitokorlestonedgaming2784 it’s sad. And I couldn’t take it anymore lol. This channel is just my little way to push back and try to reset the lies and agendas

[@apollo_0858]

Kobe once said "2nd place just mean your the first loser"

[@kevinj8171]

Contrasting, eloquent, prudent, while being objective…Now we see why big media is an absolute failure? Great job again Skap. Thanks!

[@zephyranthes-1319]

The fact that nobody steals Lebron shoes and it’s always Jordans that get swiped already locks him out of the GOAT debate. 😂

[@-Nightingale]

Well... tbf Lebron got some ugly shoes.

[@bwink23]

I bought a pair of LeBron Witness 7s, thinking they would help me play like LeBron. I did....I traveled 3 times, airballed 2 free throws, had 6 turnovers, missed 5 of 12 Fts, I cried to the refs (thankfully they were too scared to give me a technical), and clanked a 3 with the clock winding down. All things considered, I had a pretty decent first half.

[@thatkidmason999]

@@bwink23maybe u just ass 😂😂😂

[@TheRbruin10]

That is the end goal and the peak of Mt Everest in sports... WINNING. And MJ WON SIX NBA CHAMPIONSHIPS in the modern era of basketball 👑🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@thepubknight6144]

that clip of jordan walking and staring down his opponent is epic...it says everything you need to know why hes the goat

[@jasonhowell-lg5ig]

​@@thepubknight6144Then MJ would drop 50 pts on their heads.. a true killer.

[@ADL21]

Robert Horry won 7 in the modern era of basketball.

[@MisterPeckingOrder]

@@ADL21Yeah, but he’s a role player, not a superstar.

[@jahlilflowers2808]

​@@ADL21facts

[@ARadaza]

You nailed every argument I've been saying for the last decade. Kids these days and their participation medal mindset. 😢😢

[@g-coalitionbrother1729]

"In this era, we even call a player who has managed one Finals appearance in an eighteen-year career, *a god."*

[@FindingAFilipina]

Thats why ive always said its clear a narrative is being pushed. Being great means one influencing his team to winning significant chips...not stats, not 2nd place finishes. Lebron show up and all the all time great criteria suddenly changes

[@skap_attack]

Bingo...

[@Shawn-Leider]

It’s not even just that tho, Jordan led the league in a wide range of stats throughout his career. Lebron doesn’t usually end a season leading the league in a single stat

[@GtheGreat1]

Once again Skap you have outdone yourself. Great video 💪🏾 You are the 🐐

[@skap_attack]

🙏❤️💪🔥

[@philwilson609]

@@skap_attack Dude - crappy, shallow take! You have absolutely no sense of the historical development of the game with globalization, exponentially larger pool of talent and the changes in revenue and league structure driving today's vastly superior game. Players today are far more skilled and better trained than in the days of Magic and Bird. Most MVP candidates over the past several years are internationals. The Joker is better than any big of the past because European training is superior. What do participation trophies have to do with LeBron's greatness? You are pandering to those who scarf up Republican tropes. BTW, the GOAT is Steph - the greatest offensive force in history with the highest true shooting percentage of any high volume scorer in league history. Kobe, MJ, Bird and Magic were such inefficient scorers that they would be liabilities in the current league. D Book and Demar D are better midrange shooters than MJ - look it up, pal.

[@skap_attack]

@@philwilson609 hahahahhahahahhahahahahahhahajahahjahahahahhahahahahahhahahahahjahahahahhahahhahahhahahahahhahahahhahahahhahhahahahahahhahahahahhahahahahha Sorry. I can’t legitimately make it to the actual meat of your comment. I’m blinded by the UNBELIEVABLE delusional joke of a take that Steph curry is the goat lolololololololol! Holy crap. Thank you so much for that comment. I needed a good laugh here. Man. I don’t think Lebron is top 5. BUT he AT LEAST had a viable case at being top 5. Steph curry. HOLY. CRAP. Barely a top 15 player as the GOAT. Man I’m in hysterics over here 💀. The best part of this is when you insinuate that I have no sense about the historical development of the game. Man bruh. What are you? About 18 years old? Don’t answer that. If you’re any older it will REALLY depress me.

[@philwilson609]

@@skap_attack Old school geezer scared to engage? Old heads are are dead weight on the task of intelligent discourse.

[@skap_attack]

@@philwilson609 I see you’ve already commented on one of my videos in the past. A steph curry video.

[@Kevin-dl6nf]

Thank you Lebron for giving birth to channels of the truth like this 👏

[@Joseph-lz5er]

I was watching KG's show with his guest TMac when they began talking about how the modern era of players has destroyed the game. When they were going to elaborate, they stopped and moved on to another topic. Most retired basketball players also know this but avoid talking about it.

[@IsaacMSingleton1]

My guess is the podcasters are allowed a space by the major media and KZbin, so if they don't listen and spew narratives they will get sent to the shadow realm of podcasts. There is absolutely no reason Gilbert arenas should be treated as a great basketball mind who needs to have an opinion on basketball. The dude got kicked out the league for threatening to kill a teammate over a gambling debt 😂 yet LeBron fans really take that guys word as gospel 😂

[@hershelpogue1745]

Skap Attack, thank you exposing the truth to so many fans. And yes I am glad to hear you recognize the winners and the players that deserve to be recognized more than today's media don't want to give what they earned on the court, not the court of public opinion, and paid media pundits. Glad you went back and showed all of basketball and their beginning essence. Kobe Bryant deserves much more recognition than he is getting, and Kareem, Tim Duncan, Larry Bird and Magic Johnson, Bill Russell, Shaquille, Hakeem and Stephen Curry, and more. Skap Attack thank you for being the most honest man on the internet. People might not know some players that didn't get recognition should be, I'm electing Kevin McChale, playing with a broken ankle for real. They think those guys weren't contributing to the game. And even Karl Malone, played the whole entire year with some kind of hand injury, Jonh Stockton, and more, Patrick Ewing. I don't want to make this get too long so I'm cutting myself off. Great work and keep showing these new players why even though they didn't all win, they are respected for competing, and not quitting on their teams. So many guys that didn't get the ring we still believe they are great basketball players to this day.

[@skap_attack]

Absolutely. There is not shame in losing. There is not shame in being beaten by a superior player or team. As long as you give it everything you have and compete to the end, that's all we as observers and fans can ask. The only thing we do not want to see, is the alleged "best players" of an era quitting and running away in the first sign of adversity. There are MANY, countless players that never won a single title that did it with more honor and grace than many of the so called "greats" we see today. Many thanks for watching and for your comment.

[@danieltozzi6655]

Lebron played a whole finals with a broken hand, against the warriors... you forgot?

[@ZhyPalma]

@@danieltozzi6655bruised * no where near broken

[@skap_attack]

@@danieltozzi6655 hahahaha you mean one of the many excuses? No I haven’t forgot him “breaking his hand” 😉 in game one. Yet playing the entire series with absolutely no hint of discomfort or pain whatsoever. Never appearing on any injury report. And shaking hands and high fiving with kids while he was coming off the court after being swept in game 4, only to appear at the press conference with a fake cast on 25 mins later. No, trust me, I haven’t forgotten 😂

[@danieltozzi6655]

@@skap_attack you can't show weakness. That's why Jordan fake retired, because he knew it was the rockets time 💯 He came back when Hakeem was older 🤣

[@ajohenry447]

God I can’t stand LeGM this guy actually convinces people that going 4-10 in the finals is G.O.A.T Material thank you Skap for exposing the truth Jordan on top

[@skap_attack]

My pleasure! And thank you for watching 🙏❤️

[@skap_attack]

@@chrisking2900 I don’t respect any 😂

[@sigmatheenigma]

Facts bro. Who even remembers the other teams in the finals unless it’s a documentary

[@redeyexxx1841]

​@@skap_attack 3 of those titles are straight bs. 2 with Miami and one bubble bs title. And yet LeBum fans claim that KD's 2 rings doesn't count as he joined Avengers but still couldn't those Heat rings 😂

[@1968dogg]

The worse person 2 deceive is the "person in the mirror"

[@userjlj]

skap, you're almost to 10K subs and just a month ago, you were just at 2K+.. it's nice to see people subbing to your channel, your videos are highly entertaining so just keep up the good work.. IK you'll reach your goal eventually!!! 👍

[@strawhats0823]

Yo I love your videos, I'm ready for the next one please keep them coming.

[@skap_attack]

THANK YOU 🙏 ❤️ and many thanks for watching!

[@1509Freeze]

Dude you keep banging out great content at a staggering pace. Nice work.

[@skap_attack]

THANK YOU 🙏❤️

[@drosales43]

Brother is a machine... he is like Neo just uploading files instead of downloading em

[@countkilroygraf8816]

One of the things that made the Nuggets' run special for me was that they did it without a super team, just a really good team. No begging, no excuses, no backroom deals or collusion. Honestly, if Jokic can keep playing at this level for another few years and bring in a couple more rings, he'll be an all-time great.

[@borisfrlic]

He’ll be regarded above Lebron by the time he retires by people who actually understand basketball and competition.

[@retrictumrectus1010]

​@@borisfrlicI would argue that unlike Lebron, Jokic actually makes his teammates play better. In Lebron's case, it's more about benefitting each other than making his teammates better. For example, if he has a 3 point shooting teammate. Either a teammate receives a better quality 3 point shot due to Lebron's gravity, or Lebron won't be double teamed because of a threat of a kickout, making Lebron's drives easier. Jokic can do that, and more. Jokic's teammates actively try to improve their off-ball movement because when Jokic has the ball, they know a pass will come when Jokic thinks they are open.

[@skap_attack]

Let's not forget about Giannis three years ago. Both Giannis and Jokic are doing everything the right way. If they both stay put and win 2 more rings, they would both be near top 10 all time players in my book. That's a lot of 'IFs', but so far, I love what I am seeing.

[@munimathbypeterfelton6251]

@@skap_attack I can't wait for a Nuggets-Bucks Finals matchup! That would be a classic championship series!

[@vitokorlestonedgaming2784]

Exactly! Feels like real basketball again!

[@ethanhawkins3391]

Each video gets better than the last. A video request of mine would be to examine the utter failure of the PG3 and Kawhi team up in LA

[@skap_attack]

Thank you for watching!! 🙏 ❤️ and I can probably hook you up with a vid on Kawhi and PG3.

[@sotiriosdrokalos]

Awesome video, like always. I just want to specify that the so-called goat debate is a product of this era, and didn't really exist before. Yes, people sometimes discussed about it here and there, but nobody really cared and there wasn't much tension. Fans were all for the current rivalries: Magic vs Bird, Jordan vs Drexler, Chicago vs New York, New York vs Indiana, Olajuwon vs Robinson, Houston vs Phoenix, Kemp & Payton Sonics vs Malone & Stockton Jazz. The only thing that mattered was who wins the series or the title, and all the debates and tensions had to do with that. The basketball community acclaimed MJ as the GOAT not because there was a debate, but to express the global admiration for what he was offering exceeded anything seen in the past. Now people talk all the time about who's the “goat,” “top 5,” “top 10,” because we have great talent but we don't have the essence of the game, that is, rivalry, intensity, excitement, everything that comes with passion to win above anything else. What we need is a new era of rivalries and genuine excitement to rise again.

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

Dude, awesome comment! I was thinking about that recently. All this talk about "the GOAT" has metastasized thanks to Lebron and his ilk propagandizing people through the mass media (specifically ESPN and Fox Sports) who hyper-focused on this topic on sports debates shows OVER and OVER and OVER again until people got all worked up about it. MJ is the GOAT because, as you astutely pointed out, he TRANSCENDED the sport. Even great SOCCER players worship MJ and soccer is the most popular sport in the world, MJ is the only American athlete that is more recognizable than Pele in Brazil. He is that transcendent as both player and icon. We need a return of rivalries, and beefs, and division traditions, and fan traditions, and UNIQUE styles of play (I miss Kobe so much, NOBODY today really plays like him - you never knew what you were gonna get with him, left handed floaters, etc). I think we are seeing some of that return with Jimmy Butler upsetting the Celtics and the Celtics beating Miami the year before. That is a real rivalry with real animosity. I also think the Clippers and Lakers have a chance to be a real rivalry if Kawhi and PG stay healthy which is basically a pipe dream lol.

[@sotiriosdrokalos]

@@feynmanschwingere_mc2270 Thanx man. That's true, Michael Jordan is the only basketball player in history that reached the same levels of popularity worldwide as the top soccer legends like Pele and Maradona. David Becham said that when he went to Real Madrid and his number 7 was taken by Raúl Gonzalez, he chose 23 because of his admiration for MJ. In 1999-2000 MJ's son asked for a Raúl's signed jersey when they were in Spain, and Raúl sent it writing "to his Majesty who I always admire" recognizing Jordan as the greatest athlete in the world. On the contrary, when Lebron went to LA and Zlatan Ibrahimovic was playing there, he welcomed-mocked him tweeting that now LA had a god (himself) and a king. Then Lebron sent him his jersey, and Zlatan sent it back signed by himself. :) Also, in the Champions League final in Paris last year, Real Madrid's fans booed Lebron like the fans at the Super Bowl this year.

[@ricosauve5]

They want us to believe LeBron is the greatest ever yet he's never been part of any dynasty. Not 1. Every other player in my top 5 has dynasty behind them.

[@skap_attack]

Great point.

[@youngblackandgifted]

LeBron IS a dynasty😂😂

[@skap_attack]

@@youngblackandgifted he’s not. Jumping to jacked super teams in garbage conferences doesn’t make you a dynasty. Kobe winning multiple titles with a COMPLETELY different cast of characters separated by 6 years of time, ON THE SAME TEAM, makes HIM a dynasty.

[@youngblackandgifted]

@@skap_attack the Heat team can MAYBE get the title of super team, but the Cavs😂😂hell nah. And u provin my point, the only common denominator was LeBron. When he left da Heat what happened?? They was da 10th seed. And the Cavs?? They finished 18 and 64😂

[@youngblackandgifted]

@@skap_attack and let’s not forget Kobe had Shaq. Yall love to cherry pick

[@twoserve2449]

This documentary deserves the highest award 👏 bravo maestro!! 🙌

[@skap_attack]

Thank you! ❤

[@Toinemc]

Yes it does. 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@Mt554.]

Dude should be banned from talking basketball, horrid takes

[@DarkKnight-px7rg]

@@Mt554.agree biased takes..anything LeBron did he discredits! Take smaller achievements from other players! Like obviously LeBron is not a better scorer than KD and doesn’t stat pad like Westbrook. If he wanted to average a triple double a season he could.

[@bwink23]

​@@Mt554.Make a rebuttal video clown 🤡

[@ronque23]

Lebron may become the only player in NBA history to have played with not only his son, Bronny, but also his step dad, Delante West-which is pretty impressive.

[@JamesJohnson-vk9en]

😂😂😂

[@byronbalagtas9743]

Maybe impressive...but does it makes him go on mj level?...too far.

[@well.thy.one.]

Lmao

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

LMFAOOOOO

[@tramellee339]

you win bro

[@bpsactclass2218]

Excellent video! I am a major NBA fan and you pointed out things that I had not considered before regarding why LeBron is not only not a GOAT but should not even be in the discussion. Well done!

[@skap_attack]

Thank you, and thanks for watching!

[@Mt554.]

​@@skap_attack you know nothing about basketball

[@bwink23]

​@@Mt554.Is LeFlop the GOAT?

[@Boogieman618]

@@bwink23no but he’s top 3 lmao y’all LeBron haters are delusional. I’m not even a LeBron fan but yes this is HIS era because he has the best resume of this era.

[@jerrylattimore9232]

@@Boogieman618 HOW IS THIS HIS ERA WHEN EVERYONE ATE?? EVERYBODY WON CHIPS IN HIS ERA. WHEN THIS IS YOUR ERA, NOBODY EATS. HE HAS NOT DOMINATED HIS OWN ERA YET LECHOKE & HIS PSYCHOTIC DELUSIONAL FANBASE SAY HE'S THE G.O.A.T. THE ONLY THING THAT LESWEPT DOES REAL WELL IS LOOSE. THAT'S PAR FOR THE COURSE WITH LECHOKE & HIS DEAD FROM THE NECK UP PSYCHOTIC DELUSIONAL FANBASE. IT REALLY IS PATHETIC THE WAY HIS PSYCHOTIC DELUSIONAL FANBASE DOES NOTHING BUT MAKE EXCUSES FOR HIS NUMEROUS FAILURES, HE ACTUALLY HAVE THEM BELIEVING THAT IT'S OKAY TO LOOSE & BE PROUD OF IT. HE HAS THEM MAKING UNBELIEVABLE EXCUSES FOR WHY HE LOOSES & THEY'RE OKAY WITH IT. IT REALLY IS SICKENING THIS GENERATION THAT THROWS THE N - WORD AROUND & PROUD OF IT. WHEN I WAS GROWING UP WE USE TO KICK ASS IF SOMEONE CALLED US THAT WORD, BUT THIS GENERATION THINK IT'S FASHIONABLE TO SAY IT. THIS YOUNGER GENERATION IS ALLLLL SO LOST.

[@BBallDigest]

He is right Lebron made losing ok in Sports to where the media will make excuses for his losses in the finals where others don't get that pass and its all for money, in what sport does someone with a losing record in the finals regarded as the goat Lebron is a glorified loser.

[@skap_attack]

Absolutely undeniable. The agenda and the lies have been pedaled right under our noses and they thing some of us won’t notice.

[@chuckyjamesamartin1968]

LeBron is glorified, his fans aren't

[@thepubknight6144]

​@@skap_attackyour karl malone, wilt chamberlain, jerry west, and elgin baylor arguements were spot on and as you said the media never bent over backwards to defend any of them...then you find out his brand klutch sports has plants all over espn and fox sports...so not only is lebron the "goat" being forced its not even an organic force...its by design..... this is why most people in general go to rumble or youtube to get actual sports journalism ill give nbatv credit as they dont hammer lebron like the other media moguls on tv

[@derpmcgerp8062]

But also keep in mind he was playing in the Finals in the first place. If he had a 4-3 winning record in the Finals, would that be preferable?

[@drosales43]

@@derpmcgerp8062 step in the right direction yes definitely

[@KingBreeze07]

Thank You for this video Bro 👍🏾

[@FlexSZN23]

This is very well put together. Winning has always been the standard.

[@leptonparticle238]

The funny thing is finals appearances dont mean much in a playoff system. Its not designed to have the 2 best teams in the finals, it just helps find the best team. If he played in the west he would have been eliminated before the finals, and in many cases not by the eventual champions. So in reality he has 4 rings from a 20 year career while having good enough teams that could have won at least 6-7, but he wasnt great enough to beat the spurs and mavs with the heat. And he couldn't beat the 17 warriors.

[@bwink23]

The fact he is 4-6 in the Finals despite trying like hell to stack the deck in his favor through numerous team swaps, trades, etc...speaks volumes

[@manz7860]

​@@bwink23he's the biggest ringchaser I've seen in the nba. It's not particularly close.

[@bwink23]

@@manz7860 Yeah, most stars who ring-chased did so past their prime years. This dude did it squarely in his prime.

[@TheLongLouis]

No other team could have beaten the 2017 Warriors in the playoffs. When they added Kevin Durant in the postseason, the Warriors were really unstoppable. They added Kevin Durant into a 73-9 team. The Warriors swept everyone in the Western Conference series convincingly. The Warriors were one win away from the perfect season when they lost game 4 in the NBA Finals that year, but even that Finals series was convincing because the Warriors beat LeBron-led Cavs with an average point differential of 13.75. Their lowest winning point differential was 5 points in Game 3, and their highest being 22 points in Game 1. I don't think anybody could have beaten the Warriors in 2017 because they are overpowered. The following year in the 2018 playoffs the Warriors were still a beyond excellent team with the addition of Kevin Durant, and with an excellent supporting cast. That's why they won back-to-back championships, and swept the 2018 Cavs. As with the 2014 Finals with the Spurs, I don't think anyone can beat the Spurs and how good they played in 5 games against the Heat. It was their revenge tour from last years Finals. Could it perhaps be that LeBron would have been eliminated prior to the Finals in the Western Conference? Probably, but I think he's still an excellent player to make an incredible impact on the team. However we're both speculating and because he played most of his career in the East so far, we will never know for sure. While I would agree that LeBron and the Heat choked in the 2011 Finals, I think it's hard to criticize the guy for not having 6 - 7 rings. Kobe doesn't have 6, he has 5 in 20 years, Shaq doesn't, and Curry doesn't (perhaps yet). Most "good enough" teams do not have 6 - 7 NBA championships as of writing this within the past 30 years. Hell, there are only 5 teams with more than 5 NBA championships (Spurs, Bulls, Warriors, Lakers, Celtics). If you were to narrow that list to NBA teams within the past 20 years, it would be even less NBA teams. I can understand you might not like LeBron because he flops, his attitude, or whatever reason it may be, but I just don't think you can bash a guy who doesn't have 6 - 7 rings because "good enough teams" could have won 6 - 7 rings within 20 years. Most teams don't win 5+ championships in 20 years. The only thing that I can think of between 2000 and 2020 are the Lakers and Spurs.

[@bwink23]

@@TheLongLouis Didi not read LeBum 🤡

[@marlowstanfield6815]

This video needs to go viral. I'm sick of people saying winning doesn't matter when its the whole reason the game is played. If you aren't playing to win then wtf are you playing for? Show me one nba all time top 10 list that has players on it that never won a championship? I've never even seen one..

[@matthewford3778]

Well LeBron has won four championships so….

[@marlowstanfield6815]

@@matthewford3778 An thats why he's the 2nd greatest all time..

[@matthewford3778]

@@marlowstanfield6815 I’m fine with people saying that, but I’ve seen heaps of comments on here saying LeBron isn’t even top 10 and that Duncan is better and to me that’s crazy. This video is absolutely crazy and most of the people commenting on this video are crazy and delusional

[@tdup191]

​@@marlowstanfield6815lol can't be 2nd best with a losing Finals record 😂

[@tdup191]

​@@matthewford3778 Duncan is better. Better leader and better fundamentally on both sides of ball than Bron who is top 10 imo but in the 2nd half behind MJ, Kareem, Magic, Bird, Timmy and Shaq

[@williep200707]

You had me following you at the into. You are the truth and I love this video ❤

[@Islander1975]

Wow! Every single argument you presented here is nearly identical to what I tell people myself! Great work!

[@realnsenpai]

Well done again man. On point in comedy too 😂

[@skap_attack]

Thank you!! And thanks for tuning in 🙏❤️

[@dodongheinz4527]

This made me teary eyed. This guy is good!

[@skap_attack]

I'm glad you enjoyed. Thanks for watching!

[@fortynights1513]

@@skap_attackIs LeBron a Hall of Famer in your opinion?

[@skap_attack]

@@fortynights1513 yes of course. His overall resume dictates such. He’s not top 5 all time in my opinion and on my list he’s around 7-8.

[@Zulzon80]

I really like this video because I am just now getting into the NBA, and it was kind of a history video on the different eras of the NBA. Would have loved to see you get into detail about other guys who did not dominate their era but were amazing players, like Wilt, for the other decades. But still, thanks for the video!

[@skap_attack]

My pleasure. If you peruse my channel More, I have done some deep dives into the 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s and 2000s. They aren’t as popular as my other video, but they’re there nonetheless. Or if you have some patience, I’ve been meaning to string all of those individual videos together and compile one hour long plus video going from the 60s to today. Either way, I’m glad you stumbled upon my channel. I’m grateful to have you here 🙏❤️

[@mr.charles5589]

You on you way to 100k, keep up the good work

[@Phil_Deeznutz714]

Skap pointing out a lot of the facts that lebron lovers dont want to acknowledge. Keep up the great work sir 👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼✌🏼🤘

[@skap_attack]

MANY THANKS for your support!! I appreciate you.

[@winchesterwestfield6733]

@@skap_attackkeep drinking on that hateraid 😂

[@bwink23]

​@@winchesterwestfield6733😭😭😭

[@Wedarealsinnas]

@@winchesterwestfield6733lebron fan’s respect losing

[@user-li2ir5ss5p]

I just can’t wrap my head around this celebration of losing. Lebron fans totally ignore his Finals losses. Lebron not only lost, he was humiliated. He’s the only player in the history of the NBA to get Swept Twice in the Finals, within the last 20 years. He also lost 4-1 and 4-2 in the Finals. Lebron’s played 20 years and only won 4 Chips, that means 16 other teams have won on his watch. As you said, he never played on a dynasty / juggernaut. He didn’t even play on the best team during his era. Skap Attack you’re definitely on point with your analogies.

[@Michael-mt6yb]

But he needed help 😂

[@thecensoredmuscle563]

Not to mention refs carrying him for his first 3 championships.

[@chisome1777]

You cant be serious, your said 16 other teams lost "under lebrons watch". Kobe played 20 years and won 5 rings, so he let 15 teams win under his watch? Yes lebron lost 6 finals, but he still made it to 10..., and many of those finals were against a stacked warriors yet he still played great in a lot of them Lets look at other greats Kobe only reached 7 finals in 20 seasons and didnt have to deal with the anomaly in the warriors compared to lebron who reached 10 in 18 seasons Dirk reached 2 finals in his 21 year career, he also sweeped kobe in the 2011 playoffs Duncan reached 6 finals in his 19 year career Larry bird reached 5 finals in 13 seasons compared to lebron who reached 7 by his 13th season I can name more but I already made my point. Dont treat his final apperances as stats of longetivity or useless because he didnt win them. Especially when he played exceptionally in 90% of them

[@user-li2ir5ss5p]

@@chisome1777 You missed my point entirely. Have you ever heard of the term dynasty? Lebron’s been to 10 finals and lost 6. Elite NBA Teams Win more than they lose! Example, the Los Angeles Lakers dominated the 2000’s. The Lakers Won 5 Chips between 2000-2010, 3 With Shaq, 2 WITHOUT SHAQ!!! 5 Championship’s Within 10 Years? That would make Kobe’s Lakers a dynasty / juggernaut! Example, the San Antonio Spurs won 5 Championships. Tim Duncan’s Spurs won 3 Chips between 2003 and 2007. If you add that up combined, the Lakers and the Spurs won majority of the Chips (8) between 2000-2010. The Spurs didn’t dominate quite like the Lakers, but they would still be considered a dynasty / juggernaut! Another example, Michael Jordan’s Chicago Bulls. The Bulls dominated the 90’s! They won 6 Championships between 1991 and 1998. Final example, Steph Curry’s Golden State Warriors are considered a dynasty! My point is, what decade did Lebron dominate? Name one team that he ever played for that was considered a dynasty. He didn’t even play on the best team during his era. That honor would go to the Golden State Warriors!

[@Michael-mt6yb]

@@chisome1777 many? You’re a liar. He lost TWO to KD warriors Do you have an excuse for Curry led warriors or the Spurs? Stop lying

[@ajdc88]

so glad you mentioned Tim Duncan. astounds me so few mention him as in the running for a top 10 player

[@user-vc1ed9ty8f]

That's because Duncan was humble and all about the team. Our culture does not reward humility, it rewards the person who has the biggest mouth and who screams the loudest about how great they are. I mean, look around you, the most famous and adored people in American are all bonafide, narcissistic pieces of shit.

[@nuncioalvarez9817]

Great video, I agree with almost everything. My only complaint would be with Wilt Chamberlain, he was a winner and one of the Greatests of all time, he was just unlucky to to compete against another GOAT and THE Greatest Dinasty in NBA History (Bill Russell and the Boston Celtics). Sorry my bad english.

[@graygray8055]

I applaud you sir. You just about covered everything I’ve been wanting to say.

[@skap_attack]

Thank you! And thanks for watching 🙏❤️

[@respectingthewordpodcast]

I noticed Lebron didnt care about winning but getting the points. I can't imagine being the monster of a player he is and not winning. He has all the tools to win but doesn't accept the mentality he lacks.

[@skap_attack]

His limitation is and always has been between his ears/from the neck up.

[@johncena4096]

If he didn’t care about winning he would’ve stayed in Cleveland in 2010. Keep trying bud

[@shyak01]

@@skap_attack have you done the statistics of mental toughness of players yet? it is a good topic for players who are mentally tough especially during a play-off/championship run... you can highlight here Le Quit a.k.a. Le Broom who always quit during a game/playoff/finals... a good example is how he quits on his Cavaliers team on 2018 and got swept...

[@redeyexxx1841]

​@@johncena4096Well went to Miami to get free chips like Durant went to GSW.

[@reignmans]

All i could see while watching lebron play... is a Scottie Pippen in steroids trying his hardest to be MJ but just couldnt do it.

[@andrewlerma3348]

Skap Attack is the only KZbinr that I look forward to seeing a video from. I haven't been this hyped for videos since Kevin Samuels RIP.

[@GainsMarathon]

@OP Do you also do music reviews? Are you therealnoshoes or something like that? Your voice sounds so familiar. Nice work, love your videos here.

[@maxvl2832]

I was here when you had less than 5K Subs, I mentioned I will be here for your 10K! Let's keep it going to 15 plus! You speak FACTS and the haters are gonna hate!!!

[@martinofrancois2749]

The best basketball channel of all times

[@skap_attack]

THANK YOU 🙏❤️

[@martinofrancois2749]

@@skap_attack you have the best content bro can you do one every single day that would be so nice

[@MIDTOWNE1]

Might be looking at GOAT status yourself when it comes to how you break the game and players down to get to the TRUTH.

[@JIX9ISLER1986]

@@skap_attack "That video right there made me the best basketball channel of all times" -Skap_Attack jk :)

[@skap_attack]

LOL thank you guys! I appreciate you all supporting my work here. I’m having a fun ass ride doing this channel and interacting with all of you 🙏❤️

[@thegeakshow]

Bro I love your videos! FINALLY somebody other then them boys over at Dreamerspro and 2raw4sports that are so bold to tell the truth about LeBron with NO fear of repercustions! I've been chase be pitchfork and damn near banner from social gathering for much of the same. And I'm a Laker fan! Good work man with all the content

[@skap_attack]

My man! Thank you very much for the kind words and for tuning in. I appreciate you 🙏 ❤️… And I just couldn’t take it anymore. Been watching the NBA avidly since the early 90s. I’ve watched every moment of Lebron’s career in real-time. I was so disgusted with everything in this era, my way to retaliate is with this channel.

[@guillermomclean8657]

Perfectly said 💯 I've always said this to the younger guys it's always about winning

[@Mistaletstalkaboutit]

So on point, I love with when someone can articulate all of your thoughts and emotions

[@zane4575]

These videos are superb. Context no one else brings up or uses, especially Lebron fans, they run on emotions like it's personal.

[@skap_attack]

🙏❤️

[@blakecscott5525]

When I was a kid- pre Jordan the great debate was always Kareem/Wilt. I remember it on TV, I remember articles in magazines and sports pages. It was a thing. Nobody included Bill Russell in the conversation. Jordan started that when he started talking about Russell’s 11 after Jordan won 6. It was important to win rings, but the attitude was more “he’s got one too” than “I’ve got 6 and you’ve got 4.” Btw Kareem started winning those arguments when he passed Wilt’s point total. Oh, and nobody ever in any era sincerely believed Magic, Bird, or Duncan were THE Goat. They were always referred to as best of their position, or “in the conversation.”

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

FACTS!!!!!!!!!!

[@Robinhudloom]

Great vid!! Should have atleast 100k subs

[@bswizzle5227]

Your vids are always on point. Straight facts, no filler, making for airtight arguments that make today's NBA 'fans' cry out of frustration. 🤣🤣🤣 Good times.

[@pedrohipolito3359]

We need more of these videos please keep making more love the work ❤ respect 🙏

[@haroldmolefi9891]

I Love this Video, everything u mentioned was excellent. But bro, how did u skip SHAQ among the Greats when mentioning Kobe and Duncan????

[@abrahamwiebe]

Very good examples, this is a great analysis. Pace also such a factor, as well as seasonal averages. 120ppg in wilts era. 95 in Kobe. Now higher again due to 3s

[@InYourHouse316]

Thank you for making this series of videos. You perfectly articulated every point I have been trying to make since lebron, Wade, and Bosh decided to dick-tuck and collude to sign together and take a shortcut.

[@skap_attack]

Haha my pleasure. I am very glad you are enjoying the channel and thankful for you to continue to tune in. I appreciate it!

[@bumshka21]

So when the Lakers got Pau for basically free to get Kobe his rings, that's not collusion because it was done by a team? Or Malone and Payton on the Lakers? Walton on the C's? lol

[@skap_attack]

@@bumshka21 lololol pau Gasol a career one time all star in 7 years before teaming with Kobe who made zero all nba teams and won not a single playoff game. THAT was Kobe’s second best option on a team that went to 3 straight finals and won back to back titles while playing a 50 win team in every round for 3 straight years except one first round series. Compare that to D Wade who was first team all nba and top 5 in mvp for back to back years leading into his team up with Lebron. Who also won a finals mvp. Compare that with Kevin love who made TWO second team all nbas in the last 3 seasons with Minnesota prior to teaming with Lebron AND Kyrie. Compare that to AD who was third all time in career PER before teaming with bron. What a laughable and pathetic comment that was 😂. Oh and Karl Malone was literally FORTY when he joined LA. Lebron’s hall of famers are all in their primes when he stole rings with them. Grow up

[@bumshka21]

Comparing the relative talent at Pau's vs Wade's positions helps to explain why he wasn't on selections like that. The reality is Kobe himself said that he wouldn't have won anything without Pau, hence hanging his jersey in the rafters. The rest is noise@@skap_attack

[@skap_attack]

@@bumshka21 Chris Bosh played the same position as Pau. Kevin Love played the same position as Pau. They were both substantially more decorated and better players when they joined Lebron than when pau joined Kobe. And Kobe said that because he’s not a human piece of shit. Lebron takes all credit for a finals run where he averaged 26 points per game and Kyrie averaged 25. And hit the game winning, series clinching shot in game 7 of the finals. Lebron is most egotistical narcissist the world has ever seen. So I won’t put any stock into what he says. I know what I watched for 20 years. I stand behind the video.

[@mickeylee2624]

Great points on nearly all accounts! I agree with the message of your argument, but one major detail is Duncan was really a CENTER--an all-time level Center and even listed as one for the majority of his seasons played. Just as no one really considered either Sampson or Olajuwon as a PF and C, Duncan in his seasons with Robinson was a center because C are primary rim-protectors on defense with mostly back-to-basket game (which Duncan was for all of his career, exclusively fitting the role during the post-Robinson years). I never thought of it as you noted, but LeWhine surprisingly compares to Jerry West both in terms of raw stats and NBA Finals record.

[@feynmanschwingere_mc2270]

WOW. You just blew my mind with that fact about Duncan. So why do so many people, even legends like Barkley, keep calling him s PF? He actually DID play Center for most of his career the more i think about it. He played a bit like Olajuwon but Olajuwon was better than Duncan (and that's no sleight to the great Timmy, it's more a testament to how remarkable Hakeem was - destroying Shaq in the finals).

[@mickeylee2624]

Thank you, @@feynmanschwingere_mc2270! I am a fan of Barkley (player and TV personality), but he, too, is part of sports media which inevitably promotes certain narratives (i.e. Duncan as a PF; many others the in media like paid pawn Nick Wright even making a G.O.A.T. conversation at all involving LeFlop). Absolutely, Olajuwon was superior to Duncan in nearly all facets of the game, except in the luck department as TD had a career with superior team management (consequently, better drafted teammates), quality of coaching staffs, overall quality of teammates, and fewer true contenders in the league during his respective era (really, it was mostly the Lakers, Heat, and Dirk). After listening to the evidence presented by astute basketball historians, I agree that Hakeem is the greatest center of all-time. I see Duncan ~#6, behind Olajuwon, Kareem, Wilt, Russell, and Admiral, but just ahead of Shaq.

[@FlyingElvis]

Man I really like your videos. I’m having more fun watching them. I know I’m commenting a lot but damn you are saying what ALOT of folks that know the game have been saying. Hopefully it resonates with and prompts a young person to go look at the rich history of the game. That’s what Don Meredith did for me in the 80’s with the NFL. Once I learned who Deacon Jones was it changed the way I viewed not just football but sports. There are so many game changing players that get lost to time due to recency syndrome. If you are one of those folks under 30 and you have this view already you will get so much more out of sports, and really enjoy them. Or be like me, an old guy that gets pissed at Dak because I watch Aikman growing up and I know what a real general is. Stats mean nothing if you don’t win it all at some point. Thanks again.

[@goldenrk9907]

What is the name of the music being used? it's pretty fire

[@drosales43]

You really nailed it again! WINNING "You play to win the game" is what matters in sports! Personal stats, team stats, those are all cherry on top of WINNING! If a guy has all the stats, the awards, the accolades and fails continually to win the chip... he cant possibly be the GOAT! He can be the greatest statistical LOSER of all time.. I mean he can be the least winningest dominate player of all time, the biggest thing is that people state with a straight face that Lebron: Get his teammates involved, is a "selfless player", is clutch... all while he hasnt lead the league in assists(which especially the last 5 yrs you would like he would be nailing this), or rebounds (isnt he an actual power forward?) he isnt all defense, he hasnt been the most clutch player on his championship teams for at least TWO of his 4 titles and all he does is LOSE... SO no... he isnt the best teammate, he doesnt consistently get them involved" he isnt clutch and every move he has ever made in his entire career has been about HIM ALONE! When can we just call him what he is... a great player, phenomenal athlete, incredibly smart business man/marketer of himself that has built an empire on his skills and "charm" and there is nothing wrong with that... he just isnt the greatest basketball player of all time... this video is the death nail in the coffin of LBJ

[@redeyexxx1841]

I mean if someone counts finals appearence then credit should be given to solo carry guys like Jimmy Butler this year who went to finals with 7 undrafted players in a stacked Eastern conference (beating top 2 teams that were favourites to win). But here people giving credit for LeBrons final appearence with Heat/Cavs both are loaded with HOF/All-Stars calibre teammates.

[@drosales43]

@@redeyexxx1841 most definitely

[@Afghanistan_Baby-Oh-Yeah]

Excellent Vid as usual.. So many Irrefutable points made.

[@skap_attack]

🙏❤️ yet somehow, someway, someone will try to deny the facts 😂. But I’m gonna keep putting out the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth 💪

[@silensill]

great job:) can we have a video on the 2011 nba finals and how important it was that dirk won?

[@Staineclass24]

I cant wait for this channel to blow up! Thank you for calling out the soft era and media train that comes along with it.

[@skap_attack]

THANK YOU for tuning in and supporting the channel. I appreciate you 🙏

[@chrisuncleahmad]

Magic Johnson lost 4 Finals and got swept twice despite the number of HOF’ers he played with

[@COLDHRTDKILLA]

You Fing get it. Its like you read my mind. You're gonna be a top guy on here for sure. Another Goated legit vid. I look forward to them. Love the homage to VC, Tmac, AI. You were here for the games. These kids watch highlights. The AI, Kobe Finals were my fave all time. I was watching the lakers, Celtics in the day. I loved Barkley as much as Bird and MJ. We need a Barkley vid compared to Lebron. 6,4 Charles would of ate Lebron.

[@scottproctor3576]

This was very informative really made me see things I never noticed

[@ShutThePuck]

Thank you, it irritates me when people forget or ignore what the ultimate goal is supposed to be - winning. The true measure of 'greatness' is ones impact on winning, with no excuses.

[@skap_attack]

🙏❤️

[@michaelclark7706]

Losing isn’t the failure of an individual it’s a failure of the team.

[@ShutThePuck]

@@michaelclark7706 And by that logic winning is then not the success of an individual. So neither winning or losing matter when assessing the individual, which is absurd and exactly the kind of participation trophy bs the video referenced. Miss me with your excuses created so that 1 man can be elevated above all others.

[@michaelclark7706]

@@ShutThePuck We're not assessing the individual we're assessing the team. An individuals impact on a team winning is rewarded through the finals mvp. But you can't say a player didn't have an impact on their team's success if they didn't win the whole thing. That's like saying Damian Lillard is an awful player because his team has never made it past the 2nd round of the playoffs.

[@cmurder843]

Thank you sir... I'm going to add this video to my current LeBron playlist.

[@TheJupiterKnight]

Let’s also not forget that despite LeBron being a part of the Heat “Superteam”, the 2014 Spurs destroyed that team so bad in the Finals, he is now saddled with the worst point differential Finals series loss in NBA history… with two all-star players on his, oops my bad, D-Wade’s team. He isn’t even Robin to Wade, he’s the third wheel essentially Batgirl as Bosh joined Team Collusion first. And yes, I know the Spurs had future hall of famers Ginobili and Parker, a late second round pick and late first round pick respectively, but do not forget the Spurs drafted and cultivated these two talented players to new heights. I love these series that points out the actual truth of LeFlop James.

[@taharqaheru145]

Very good video..all points is on point

[@itznotdatserious99]

I think this might be my favorite video by you so far !

[@skap_attack]

🙏❤️

[@corning1]

I’m a Cleveland sports fan. Never a huge James fan. But that 3-1 comeback will age like fine wine. Whew. Bro. Hate all you want. That was the the one and only vs the war team of all time.

[@JIX9ISLER1986]

No It wont age " like fine wine". riddle me this ? how is it possible for the Warriors and Cavs games 1-6 for them to score the EXACT SAME POINTS TOTAL ? 610 points each (this is about mathematically impossible) how is it possible that "King James" wins the championship on June 19th 2016 which "just so happens" to be King James Birthday June 19th 1566 sounds scripted to me oh and BTW Cleveland area code 216 (2016)

[@user-vc1ed9ty8f]

Thank that asshole Kyrie, because without him you don't win shit. Not that LeBron wanted anyone to be reminded of that. He acts like he won that chip for Cleveland by himself, which is why that asshole Kyrie left as soon as he could.

[@jhutch67]

I remember when LBJ did the first team hop, and he predicted, "Not 1, not 2, etc." Just by looking at D-Wade, sitting next to him, you could tell that it was an embarrassing moment. Just a microcosm of what could have been a much more remarkable career...if only...

[@jaredhills4814]

Thank you so much for this video

[@skap_attack]

Thanks for watching! 🙏

[@bladeguru6358]

Great video!! Thank You!

[@skap_attack]

My pleasure and thank you for watching! 🙏❤️

[@djlucky8745]

Wow .. Well put together.. This is a master piece…🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@skap_attack]

THANK YOU 🙏❤️

[@Withmypups247]

This is my new favorite KZbin channel! Nothing but facts. MJ is the goat

[@merrillvillecandlewood1762]

love your jordan memes 😂

[@udinelumbu2351]

Let that man cook🔥... another great video. great attention to detail, and 100% facts.

[@uberneanderthal]

Love the respect you give to Mikan and Russell. Everyone else is just following the blueprint they created. Any GOAT conversation that excludes them is illegitimate and ignorant.

[@garfieldheathcliffe5535]

Respect for Mikan and Russell, but there is no GOAT debate. To include anyone else is illegitimate and ignorant. For the most part, this GOAT "debate" started gaining traction with the LeBron fans, so the entire premise of the "debate" is nonsensical at best.

[@hashmoncrief6965]

Magic johnson, Kareem and kobe, should all be considered in the goat conversation🤡

[@t.shizzle]

This video is pure ether ⛽️🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[@zionnewkirk4838]

I would love a video on Tim Duncan! If it wasn't for Ray Allen, he would most likely have 6 rings with 4 Finals MVPs!!🔥🔥🔥

[@skap_attack]

Nothing but respect for the Big Fundamental. Probably, I should slide him on my queue…

[@jus4361]

Bro you hit it on the nail every time

[@pamoon_]

Odd thing is If LeBron never made the Big 3 Heatles and stayed with Cleveland, the Spurs and Thunder would have won titles in that time and could have changed everything (KD never goes to the Warriors, Duncan would finish with 6 rings, Kyrie would not be on the Cavs, etc.). LeBron however might be able to win one title in Cleveland, but that would be his only championship.