When You Buy Your Missile From Temu | F-15 Eagle Vs J-10 Dogfight | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The F-15STOL/MTD VS The SU-30 Flanker-H guns only! Please fly The F-15EX VS The MIG-31BM BVR!

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The Rafale VS The Typhoon guns only Dogfight

[@tmytyson]

Battle of the Canards: A dogfight free-for-all (more than 2 fighters, heaters optional) consisting of a mix of - but not limited to - the J10C Firebird, JAS39E Gripen, Eurofighter Typhoon, SU30SM Flanker-H, and Dassault Rafale. May the best 'nard win.

[@shaundouglas2057]

Apache vs ww2 fighter planes.

[@burnerjack01]

GS, it suddenly occurred to me: Your voice is like if your Tactical Instructor’s last job was the night shift DJ at a Cool Jazz radio station. All the info but with a cool, laidback kinda vibe. As you kill off the Enemy.😂

[@PaulGAckerman]

In round 1, you didn't really fire that missile, you just set it free to live its best life.

[@theandf]

The missile was just pursuing its dreams.

[@aplusservice]

"You can't fire me; I QUIT!"

[@plumtube01]

Came from TEMU maybe?

[@Cuccos19]

That missile looked like it's having hangover or still being drunk.

[@LionessPurpose]

All might the case!!!😂😂😂😂

[@flyingbullseye]

Here we go, here we go got a fox-2 on him. Fox-2 away. Fox-2: squirrel!

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

Looked like that first fox2 was trying to find YOU!

[@kavinbala8885]

fr looked like it was a boomerang

[@yomarashi8272]

Made in China

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

@@yomarashi8272 hahahah for real!

[@andersjjensen]

It was intent on killing the nearest heat source!

[@marcorcooooo]

@@yomarashi8272nope，dcs made in russia ，they won't chinese weapon looks great

[@Aelkatraz1]

That first missile had ADHD.... look at that fluffy cloud, wait what was I doing?

[@madigorfkgoogle9349]

or was simply made in China?

[@dunneemofozilla5718]

Those missiles rely on the spirit of mao rising from hell and guiding them, guess he was on smoko break at that time

[@mgancarzjr]

Not knowing where it isn't.

[@tykjpelk]

It locked on its own engine.

[@Noahboss67]

😂

[@Bad_Wolf_Media]

4:24 - when the video cut back inside the cockpit, I was fully expecting GS to explode from his own Fox-2 shot finding a new target.

[@coffeeguyd]

Yeah, I was bracing for the Confused Obama meme to quickly be followed by the Shocked Sully one!

[@BuckBewENOfficial]

That first missile didn't know where it wasn't, and couldn't subtract where it wasn't with where it was.

[@-fulcrumer]

He saw a civilian airliner

[@darko277u5]

the reason Egypt is choosing the J10 to replace it's f16 fleet is because the US doesn't allow Egypt to have Amraams on their f16 which means it's obsolete imagine in today's modern era and the Egyptian f16s still operates with sparrows, when you compare it with the J10C equipped with PL-15 yeah fat chance that their F-16 is gonna be anywhere near as good in BVR

[@luoeain2026]

I think thats becaus Egypt need reliable weapons when they have problems with Isreal, middle east Asia countries just dont trust US anymore

[@MTMILITIAMAN7.62]

I know it is usually not a good idea to root against GS, but I just can't root against the F-15. Sorry, GS.

[@timbaskett6299]

Agreed.

[@benjaminmoore3373]

Agreed. I always root against GS when he's flying non-Nato planes. Just kain't hep it! :)

[@davidteske6692]

Personally, I shed a small tear every time I see an Eagle go down 😥

[@albedo826]

About those missing missiles: it's to do with the airspeed they were launched at -- PL-10 has all its control surfaces at the rear of the fuselage, unlike an R-73M or an AIM-9X its ability to maintain controlled flight at low speeds is virtually non-existent as it lacks the canards to steer itself into the airflow. This is only exaggerated by the vectored thrust which deviated its control surfaces from trajectory of velocity the second they were launched -- leading to again, an inability to steer itself by the nose back to trajectory of velocity due to the lack of canards and an inability to correct itself Science aside: the comments are pretty funny :)

[@PFSquirrel]

When the missletism kicks in

[@petersmythe6462]

Mom can we get a PL-10 air to air missile? "We have a PL-10 at home." The PL-10 at home:

[@TheBuster0926]

That Whole Final Fight had me Laughing. First the Missile Doesn't Work, then he gets into your Control Zone and Misses an Easy Gun Kill, Got Pissed, Shot an Impotent Missile. he got ANGRYER, Shot ANOTHER MISSLE, and your just, Defeated Sigh, immeadially cut off by the Ejection Seat and then NARROWLY AVOID HITTING THE LAST MISSILE. HOLY COW WHAT A "DOGFIGHT"

[@Advcrazy]

That J-10 has the aliexpress “sidewinders”. Only $4.99 each!

[@Dontbeweak123]

You 1st fox2 said “nope, that f15 be scary”

[@timbaskett6299]

F-15 "Would you intercept me?" Temu Fox-2 "Nope!"

[@tylerchristopherson4245]

That pl10 was drunk on russian vodka.

[@cosmoray9750]

House passed HR 1157

[@ArghIsThisHandleTaken]

As a retired F-15 crew chief it hurts my heart to see you beat an F-15 but I just think you’re way better than anyone you fight against.

[@macgyver186]

I think it came down to GS being better at aerial gunnery. There were a handful of times the F-15 took a shot and baaaarely missed.

[@azmannarvik7911]

GS always tries to fly the underdog aircrafts as he’s too good

[@Bytional]

This is the one could use a F16 to beat F35 and F22, so it's just the skill.

[@brianbrady9187]

J-10 vs fulcrum could be cool, clash of the medium Reds.

[@emmano6340]

Wooooo, that's a nice suggestion ! Maybe a Fox 2 fight as well ?

[@Jb-Raja]

J10 is the Love child of a Mirage and a Euro Fighter.

[@timbaskett6299]

It looks like the Isreali Lavi fighter they decided not to build.

[@SpaceCase132]

More like the drunken b*****d of a Typhoon and an F-16 that was raised by Temu.

[@emmano6340]

​@@SpaceCase132 😂😂😂

[@dawidkiller]

bing chilling F16

[@ShotByAScot]

That first missile was like “I’m FRRRRRRRREEEEEEE at last!” 😆

[@JS-pt-219sg]

Would love to see each of these with a plane/pilot swap. So interesting to see how you're applying the pros and cons of each aircraft to maximise the outcome of each engagement. Great video!

[@M4XIMUS135]

A properly modelled J-10 would be cool to see on DCS

[@andersjjensen]

All of these are guestimated based on a mixture of popularity and hype.

[@Socratic2308]

Not to mention the PLAAF is secretive so it’s hard to get the accuracy close .

[@55Dag]

The J-10 is a bit of an enigma. In one angle it's looks good then it rolls and shows another side and it's ugly.

[@kksan]

Su-27 and j-20 do that too, they are really ugly from some angles.

[@55Dag]

@kksan true. But for the most part I think the SU- birds are pretty sexy

[@enpilarlapaz1494]

most planes do that, SuperHornet looks goofy as hell from behind

[@shaundouglas2057]

I find that with the F16 its underneath view is ugly but top and front on view it looks fantastic.

[@xekoan507]

What about american jets ?​@@kksan

[@knahshal]

Egypt is getting the J10C to modernize their Air Force

[@Mav09]

F/A-18E/F vs F-35C (Fox-2 fight) would be epic to see! Navy vs Navy : Old vs New Day 122

[@FreedomIsNotFree2023]

With the F/A 18s high AOA, that might be be a very short fight, if it's a fox-2 fight. But I agree it would be interesting to see.

[@dioney-be7dm]

F/a-18 would most likely win in a fox 2 dogfight but the f-35 would have an edge in fox-3 bvr, different planes meant for different purposes. Would still be pretty cool to watch.

[@Mav09]

@@dioney-be7dm "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley. Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.

[@Mav09]

@@FreedomIsNotFree2023 "If I went out and fought an F/A-18 on day one I’d get destroyed," said Flatley. "But if you do what the jet is really good at, you can do things those other jets wouldn’t dream of." This is a quote from Marine Corps Maj. Dan Flatley. Personally I disagree with you. I once had a conversation with a pilot about the F-35A's maneuverability. He said that it flys like or better than a Hornet.

[@luoeain2026]

f35 has no chance

[@jameshisself7375]

4:06 Chinese missile incoming, EVERYBODY duck! That was surprisingly unsurprising.

[@tepes22b]

Your missiles may have been unreliable, but at least your ejection seat worked. 😂

[@mikemelina7395]

It looks like a lot of these fights are coming down to your superior skill as a pilot in DCS. I doubt the J-10 is really as good as you're flying it.

[@underated_username7567]

To be fair it's the early A model J-10, J-10C would be completely different.

[@joshafc41]

The j10c is definitely as good if not better than the latest version of the f16...

[@HailAzathoth]

​@@joshafc41pfff ft 😂😂😂

[@Socratic2308]

@@HailAzathothkeep dreaming.

[@TurbineFlyer]

The J-10 vs the F-14 would be entertaining. The F-14, while not the best fighter ever produced. It was exceptional for its size

[@mofopopo437]

I would love to see you do A-6 intruder missions over Vietnam!!

[@magicaldream]

hell yes

[@johnbingham9241]

You mentioned this dog fight yesterday when I was watching a video. Very cool ❤❤❤ 💯

[@eckolwarlock]

Nice Temu Fox-2 there

[@namelesscrow9351]

I love how nice the J-10s "voice" sounds "Hey I know youre blood is currently becoming jelly but, if you could just pull up a little that'd be nice 🙂"

[@dawidkiller]

Isn't it done so that in the Chinese version the harsh accents are sort of softened? The softness feels kinda counterproductive in the translation, lol.

[@laaams]

12:55 That missile was struggling crossing the atmosphere😂😂

[@Stant123]

11:03 GS is just a master baiter.

[@rexmann1984]

So what have we learned kids? The J10 will get it's ass spanked by any well piloted American fighter.

[@nymalous3428]

I guess the best time to bail out is right before the second missile hits you.

[@DerInterloper]

4:15 THE MISSILE KNOWS WHERE IT IS AT ALL TIMES.

[@Bytional]

Because J10 has a single engine, DSI intake and canard setup, it looks very strangly with a Euro Fighter vibe.

[@JasonArter]

Look at those beautiful contrails showing the rolling scissors. Awesome!

[@cloudforest4087]

That missile forgot something.

[@SplashJohn]

"Looks like we have a 50% failure rate on these missiles." So the Chinese missiles are modeled accurately, anyway. Not the J-10, though.

[@mhult5873]

13:21 LOL The cockpit glass is shattered, the plane is doomed and the computer says with the softest possible and quiet voice: "warning" 😂 Also a great scene/view when the second missile hit after that ejection. Br //M

[@sidskievaski5937]

Thank you for the Eagle time GS!

[@benn454]

The first missile had to go. His planet needed him.

[@Liberty_or_Ded]

One lesson I always learn from these fights against the Eagle is that if you want to win as an Eagle, you have to be aggressive. You can win an endurance match in the Eagle, sure, but the Eagle retains and regains power very nicely, and being aggressive in the Eagle forces your opponent to trade power for evasion. The Eagle can afford to lose some power in its aggression, but very few opponents can say the same in having to pull evasion.

[@subjectc7505]

It would have been funny if that missile locked on to you while it was going Su-37 mode.

[@terminalfx]

50% failure rate is about right. What did you expect when it says "made in China" on it.

[@Spydr6684]

4:18 Missle said “NOPE!”

[@summergamers3070]

The F-15 turned into a dom goth mommy that second round, he didnt let you do anything

[@chris.76256]

J10 lowkey looks like some chinese kid did it in ksp (in a good way tho)

[@jeremyfilip4190]

My man 😂 the crazy missle glitches are HILARIOUS! 🤣 but also seems like you would have to spend all day launching missles and still never get one, when you think about how many you have fired since the last one

[@AnzuBralor]

In terms of looks, the J-10 looks like it was exported directly from the original Thunderbirds TV show as one of the non-Thunderbirds fightercraft.

[@janusz4156]

50 years of F-15 in 2022 and 25 years of J-10 in 2023.

[@aaronliddell4280]

Seems like the majority of the F-15’s strengths are it’s stand off capability with its radar, which is obviously negated in a merge fight 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@config2543]

The first Fox 2 must have been a missile from Wish.

[@todd2020]

Nobody: First missile: *yes, the floor here is made of floor*

[@DarkbaseTTV]

What a dynamic in this fight. GS pissed off the F-15 in the first round, it came back super aggressive. Tricked it in the 3rd, F-15 got mad again and made him eat two missiles (second one was personal) in the 4th round. That F-15 has got some anger management issues

[@Jive-Gaming]

I don’t know if Egypt really want the J10 they already have the Rafale ❤️

[@yuanfurbax]

Pls do j10 vs Su-27, eurofighter and Jf17 vs f16

[@aberandolph3975]

Would like to see this match again with Toxic or Shotgun in the Eagle.

[@GabbieGirl007]

Here's a good suggestion . J-10 Vs SU 30 MKII , J-10 Vs Gripen , J-10 Vs F-15MTD , J-10 Vs F/A-18C Legacy Hornet. Maybe JF-17 vs Eurofighter .

[@SVSky]

Ordering missiles from Temu is a losing proposition.

[@murph3194]

That Fox-2 really demonstrated all the key elements of Dodgeball

[@gideoncampbell8335]

ME 262 in Korean War fighting everyone.

[@Hasi105]

I love the J10 since Battlefield 2 ;)

[@juanvrunovillanueva8536]

PLAAF jacking this for their training videos giving them hope.

[@paulyanchuk294]

The J10 is made of solid steel. No titanium, no composites. They employ it as a fighter bomber because it’s a brick. Some flight parameters here are out of wack!

[@derricksmith341]

I swear that I saw a round hit that missile during a gun run.

[@bradys.7967]

Snow maps hurt the eyes of people watching at night usually just a heads up

[@ExtraDipson]

The J-10s voice is so soft and cute ❤

[@krisp33bacon]

My take away from this is that the F-15 is the superior aircraft; the two times the F-15 took down the J-10, the Eagle did it much faster than the reverse. It absolutely comes down to the pilot though. Baiting the Eagle pilot into the 1-circle was definitely the winning move. If the Eagle pilot hadn't fallen for the bait, I think the Eagle would have taken all 4 rounds.

[@batates74]

8:35 Egypt is considering buying J10s instead of upgrading some of the F16 fleet

[@andresilvasophisma]

4:02 Yep, looks like a chinese missile alright.

[@jamesseay1594]

TheJ-10 is the closest thing to the stillborn Israeli Lavi fighter from the 90s.

[@Socratic2308]

If you didn’t heard the recent news, guys, Egypt has dumped the US offered upgraded F16 and chose to buy the J10C jets. Second country to get them after Pakistan.

[@Overneed-Belkan-Witch]

China Fox 2 even malfunction in DCS What a peak engineering

[@dmitrynova]

imagine the ejection seat working 50% of the time..

[@CNCTEMATIC]

lol...that Fox-2 had a lock on its own exhaust

[@lars9966]

why no one saying that the f15 pilot is a absolute beast? he knows his shi!!

[@randomguy4616]

I thought that first missile doin 360 and hit yourself from the back lmao

[@brealistic3542]

You guys who like comparisons of Soviet and NATO aircraft and fighters and their maneuvers and tactics will love this video. Even you GS, if you haven't seen it yet. (What Was The Soviet Approach to Fighter Pilot Training) KZbin video

[@DrBF3000]

One engine fighter vs twin engine fighter is a bit unfair. But still that J-10 is a really good fighter plane.

[@daym8]

This Chengdu is like a mig 21 with conards to increase its versatility and agility rather than just being an interceptor that goes like a rocket like the mig 31.

[@Cuccos19]

The J-10 was inspired by the IAI Lavi, and it was in a Chinese "Top Gun" movie too. I have to google the title as I cannot remember now. Looks like these Chinese missiles came from Temu/Wish...

[@ethaneversoll1301]

Day 194 of asking for kf21 vs f22 dogfight

[@Eggwhitepower1374]

bro was so fast

[@tommolzan5051]

Guessing persistence is one of your strengths,

[@sonny5069]

😂

[@DS-tj1xf]

I think a su47 vs felon fight would be really cool, surprised no one has done it.

[@vegasflyboy67]

It's got paper airplane lines if you're into that look.

[@pickledmangoes]

Very nice. This is the old J-10, btw. The new one... J-10C (that we in Pakistan bought).... looks a little different and is an upgrade. Looking forward to seeing that in action.

[@jaanuspiip]

That's what happens when you order your fox-2s from Temu.

[@KrazykidmanHD]

I like this Eurofighter-f16-mig21 looking thing lol.

[@Kami_Ikari]

The missile in fact didn't know where it is

[@jjkrayenhagen]

The J-10 is such a frankenplane. The obvious first thought is the Lavi. Or a single engine, single stabilizer MiG 1.44. Or the Eurofighter. The front looks like a Russian version of the F-16 while the back screams mirage.

[@tajeemcasey6574]

The Bluetooth dewice iz ready tu pair😭😂

[@josephsembower6659]

That first fox2 was funny af

[@gmwpphs1899]

4:04 *Made in China* Literally

[@theovertaker214]

Fact

[@williampremo2197]

You're the best pilot the Chinese have lol

[@somaticapollo6025]

2:45 gsh 23 moment 🤣

[@jameslanning8405]

The J-10, looks like a Gripen to me...

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The J-10 VS The SU-27 guns only!🙏👍

[@paulyanchuk294]

I isn’t “light and nimble”, it’s a solid brick.