When You Think You Can 1v1 A Support In Overwatch 2

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[@_bizmo_fungus_894]

Sojourn ult gives me HELLA performance anxiety especially if I gat nanoed

[@PurpleMoon799]

SAME

[@LimyDevotee]

Same

[@frostbitefalls]

I remember when playing Widow was actually considered cool. Everyone hates her now, lol.

[@germanluque9756]

Without a second tank to chase her/ shield her los is a pretty broken concept in a meta were you cant kill anything because supports heal too much, its not hate tho, the thing is that widow mains have remained with the same essence as was in overwatch 1 and all the other characters of the roaster had to adapt to a completely different playstile because nowadays is a pain in the ass try to kill something when they released a character that can make your whole team invulnerable and cleanse, a mercy of the size of a turret with more range and specially the fact that blizzard release characters that didnt think about dmg boost with mercy and are broken (not only sojourn), not to mention that giving out support the dmg that they give to them its actually ridiculous because they can just use broken abilities to make 1v1 or poke battles insanely unfair, but widow? Nah she can oneshot still, so she just does her thing, maybe you will die but hey doesnt change the fact that if you force this op cooldowns by just looking at your enemies and get an occasional pick you win a teamfight for free

[@eagerinspirit]

well ow 1 had double shield so being a cracked widow truly meant you were cracked. it's much easier in comparison when everyone is exposed, and just being a good hitscan player can let you dominate on widow.

[@noneyabusiness2159]

@@germanluque9756sounds like your jealous bae just play her then

[@YoGibran]

I’ve always hated widow, the amount of times they were actually good opposed to just throwing was outrages. They’ll get two headshots the whole round and never swap lmao

[@timeriksson6020]

They need to delete window from the game

[@adambaker4590]

The great thing about Baldur's Gate, if you choose to play it either on or off stream, is that there are so many different paths you can go down with the story depending on how you want to play and what choices you make that it's very easy to have two completely different experiences. The different classes, the different playstyles, the different origin characters and their stories... "When it was revealed that Baldur's Gate 3 has 17,000 ending variations, many fans were shocked and excited to uncover them all. Of course, most suspected that these endings would differ very slightly because otherwise the six years Larian spent on the game would turn into an eternity. The game's lead writer Adam Smith clarified what this number actually means and how many real endings there are. So as you might have guessed, there aren't 17,000 distinct endings, these are just all the different paths you can take during your playthroughs. In fact, the real number of endings is much more humble - in the very low double digits, according to GamesRadar. Still, it's more impressive than many games can offer, and your journey to the end is what you should focus on anyway." But yes... It can be a very long game depending how much you choose to explore off the beaten path and what choices you make for certain quests. Still, highly recommend it, Easily a 9 out of 10 game.

[@mrparadise1822]

Love the content man, thanks you for sticking by this godforsaken game

[@Pam234]

Lowkey npc comment

[@mrparadise1822]

@@Pam234 lmao, you were godforsaken from birth, I apologize that your life is a curse

[@aguy216]

​@@mrparadise1822damn nice roast

[@crazeemonnkee4161]

@@aguy216damn nice roast

[@skarloeythomas5172]

it's a f@#king game! If you're sick of it, move on. To solitaire, or monopoly.

[@HmongHeroo]

Oof that mercy dying from spawn dragon, felt it in my soul

[@dethbedsmolzwhent.t6498]

Hanzo dieing followed by Sigma orbing Widow into Oblivion was too funny 😂

[@kyubbikcat2281]

Who’d win in a 1v1 ? A combat war veteran with several cybernetics and a rail gun that can headshot? OR A bratty Zoomer who works at a donuts shop who flings kunais the size of watermelons?

[@DevsRad265]

I'd say soujorn but then again kiri was trained by her mother who schooled doomfist in her glory days, she also has beef with the mafia, kiri may be young but lore suggests she isn't incompetent

[@FaeKitsune]

The kunai aren't the size of watermelons, also you make it sound like Kiri didn't also train for years. She literally trained since childhood. So yeah, it makes sense they both have a good shot. I don't disagree the voiceless are a bit obnoxious, but she's not the only one with obnoxious lines lmao.

[@YoGibran]

🤓 These replies

[@Hoodini2253]

@@DevsRad265didn’t her mother also train genji and hanzo for a bit?

[@DevsRad265]

@@Hoodini2253 yeah

[@boiofbois4232]

Yea baptiste is soooo slept on I onetrick him since release and he’s so powerful he’s only had like 1 bad patch

[@DaffyTaffy93]

Nah bap isn’t kept on he’s high key noticeable

[@Hoodini2253]

@@DaffyTaffy93in higher ranks, where not everysingle support mains moira thinking she’s good

[@anarchistmaverick9507]

⁠@@Hoodini2253She is good even in high ranks

[@PurpleMoon799]

hes basically a boss battle with 3 lives 😂

[@Dire_Pants]

Oh my gods! Somebody else that stops shooting an absorbing Ligma?! I thought i was the only one!

[@SoloKrypton]

Remember when the Damage role meant something?

[@Hoodini2253]

The bastion role does, and mei, and maybe sombra, but that’s it sorta

[@lashius1]

@@Hoodini2253 And reaper. Oh, and Widow....Torb, Tracer, Hanzo, Sojourn. You know what, most of the DPS are good.

[@MyCommentsRMaturelol]

TRY PLAYING BALL BRO

[@jimthabeast5345]

​@@MyCommentsRMaturelolball is sadly not competitively viable and I used to main him

[@RLplusabunchofdumbnumbers]

Dang, Emongg doing work on attack - 2 ults in just over 2 minutes.

[@Mallow_hayes]

Not my streamer on sojourn

[@JohnSmith-lk9fv]

With a mercy pocket.

[@crazeemonnkee4161]

We live long enough to see the hero become the villain 😔

[@Hoodini2253]

I think he’s earned it

[@BeastMode-bw2ry]

He deserves to blast supports head's off. As long as he goes back to tank....

[@Zaraa42]

BG3 would be fun to see

[@Bananalysdhr]

Remember when tank was actually meaningful in Overwatch

[@mohammadalhusaini810]

“I just wanna say our mercy really knows how to play” The mercy: right clicks skillfully

[@SouLynn]

There's more to Mercy than right-clicking. Else there wouldn't be Mercy mains and OTP's throughout all ranks, especially the metal ranks.

[@mohammadalhusaini810]

@@SouLynn thats exactly why there are so many mercy mains its because she is autopilot the character

[@SouLynn]

@@mohammadalhusaini810 Maybe. But who cares if a character is fun or less stressful to play? She isn't a free ticket to Top500 or even a solution to escape the metal ranks, she simply has a low skill floor but there's a ceiling to it.

[@PurpleMoon799]

are yall not tired of saying that all of the time? it has to be tiring being a sad hater and repeating the same things over and over again when its not even true?

[@wrxlth]

@@PurpleMoon799womp womp

[@declanhiggins1567]

The most true title ever

[@chaz921dren8]

Rare footage indeed

[@FlamingNinjaBoi]

Flats, you managed to make Starfield not boring. Imagine if you played a game that was the goat. The greatness!

[@-_-adrian-_-]

I would like seeing ur rank after the games

[@SirTaco97]

I don’t know why there is so much hate for supports. Didn’t realize everyone wanted the support players to just roll over and die when a dps looked in their general direction. God forbid they have ways to protect themselves. 😂

[@Dragonhelm99]

As a moira main, and someone who is learning zen, killing dps when going solo gives me extreme satisfaction

[@prodigalsun1678]

Please please please do bg3 playthrough. Would love to see a flats/flats and friends playthrough

[@kin-3877]

can someone explain how there's two Suzu at 8:57 at the same time?

[@BenjaminHari]

Absolutely! KZbin has this feature where you can slow down the video and after doing that you can see that on the left it's suzu while on the right it is soldiers helix rockets! Mystery solved!

[@kin-3877]

@@BenjaminHari thank you. i didn't know what the helix rockets looked like in flight

[@BenjaminHari]

@@kin-3877 if you go under hero customization menu and under soldiers spotlight there is one that shows how he shoots helix rockets and it goes into slow mo. ^^

[@KevinBezemerGames]

Nice

[@XeresKyle]

The biggest issue with this game is Mercy. If Mercy didn't exist the game would be a lot more fair. It's just if one team has a good Mercy and the other team doesn't even play Mercy, then the ram with Mercy has a much higher chance of winning because that's all she has to do is heal. Plus she flies around like a gawtdamn jet and she can just keep healing her team like crazy and it becomes so difficult to kill a player when a Mercy is acting as their guardian angel.

[@XeresKyle]

Ram is supposed to say "team".

[@exalted7906]

If you pick mercy to heal,might as well play something else bro.If you look closely,she mainly focuses on her sojourn,keep her healthy so you can switch to dmg boost.That’s what mercy does.

[@mohammadalhusaini810]

Based take, a character that has nano boost as an ability with no cooldown 24/7 AND can resurrect team mates AND is braindead easy to the point a 4 year old could carry with her is insanely broken and unhealthy

[@exalted7906]

@@mohammadalhusaini810 that is a slight exaggeration,but point taken.Although,she is simple to play averagely,her movement and decision making is very hard to master.

[@mohammadalhusaini810]

@@exalted7906 her movement aint hard my friend trust me and as for decision making that goes for all characters

[@nevertoooldgaming_Rave]

Title just clickbait then? Felt you needed to just disparage supports even more out of what? Spite?

[@lashius1]

I know, right? I'm starting to think that when flats does something like loosing his car keys he blames those pesky support mains, if not Brigg herself.

[@zipy4900]

love tank players doing nothing on dps, playing out in the open then crying when they die to widow

[@XeresKyle]

*Flats:* "Our Mercy is really good!" Yeah, because you're being pocketed by her! She's on Flats's ass like the whole game not healing her other teammates.

[@exalted7906]

That’s what mercy does though…especially at the level flats plays in.If you didn’t notice they have an ana to keep the tank healthy as well as the others and mercy might pinch in.But that’s how you play mercy bro

[@PurpleMoon799]

you when the character who's job is to damage boost dps does that job:

[@FractalPrism.]

1shot kills do not belong a game that has healers overwatch damage output is way too high for some healers and tanks, they're more deadly than some of the dps sombra sneaks around the map, doesnt get detected, gets the hack, lands the virus, shoots them without missing......hanzo/widow/ashe/junk/sigma/brig/kiriko/bap/ana turns around? 1hit death in an instant, healing means nothing

[@JustTodd24]

You do realize that 1shots are necessary BECAUSE of support creep right? Reliable burst damage has infinitely more value than 120 sustained dps that gets out-healed and cleansed. The underlying reason to this is that since there's only 1 tank in the game, less damage is mitigated, meaning more support utility is required for team sustain. The problem is that support creep can be focused on ONE ally making them effectively invincible while they have free reign, as opposed to tank utility focusing on taking space and damage mitigation as it's own advantage. Bring back 6v6 and you'll see a lot less one shots I assure you.

[@lashius1]

@@JustTodd24 You've got that backwards my guy. Support abilities like suzu, lamp, and rez, they all exist because one shot and two shot potential is so high. If you took out immortality effects and lowered healing, tank would still be having an awful time because of reaper, torb, bastion, tracer, junkrat, Mei, hell, even sym now that she has even more self sustain and uptime on her death beam. The healing is there to mitigate huge burst damage numbers that can also be paired with one shots or damage over time heroes. If you want the game to be healthier, then DPS need lower amounts of burst damage so that burst healing can be nerfed in parallel, and quite a few DPS need more skill based abilities, instead of the trash that is virus, which has a hit box the size of a semi-truck that you can deploy immediately after walking right up behind someone perfectly camouflaged, and turn their abilities off for a second and a half.

[@JustTodd24]

@@lashius1 Rez I can excuse, because as long as cross-map one shot spam (hanzo) exists in the game there should be something that can undo it. But suzu, lamp, and pull are all abilities meant to bail out bad positioning. Unfortunately this can be used in high ranks to turn *bad* positioning into *aggressively good* positioning. Tanks are having a bad time because supports have all the power of tanks by taking space with their utility, while maintaining the ability to heal and damage. The reason Blizzard made this decision was because supports now have to fend for themselves since theres no second tank to peel for them. If you introduce a second tank who can decide to take focus (and damage) off the main tank, or peel for supports who can sustain the main tank, magically tanking is a much more enjoyable experience. And if you lower healing numbers slightly, dps start to slowly outdamage the hps. Rewarding good resource usage and teamplay while ensuring that fights actually end.

[@JustTodd24]

@@lashius1 Notice that every single meta when the game was in a bad state, it was because things NEVER DIE. It's always been because of supports and it always will be supports. Splitting the power of offtank between these new supports is only making the problem worse.

[@lashius1]

@@JustTodd24 Damage already outdoes healing by every metric. There is next to no one healing ability, or combination of healing abilities, that can sustain through the amount of damage a team can output on a single target. THAT is why tank is awful right now, because they need to be the most aggressive, are the biggest targets, and can be unduly punished just for existing. Even if two supports pocket a tank, if all five members of the enemy team focus it, the tank dies. But beyond that, DPS get free value from shooting tanks because their larger hit box means that targets land more consistently, and with one person to do the job two DPS can outright tilt a tank by forcing all of their cool downs well still having a good chance of saving their own. Beyond that, Suzu and lamp aren't designed, or even used, to flip bad positioning into good positioning. They're meant to give counter play to insane burst damage, easily abused CC, rampant status effects and DOT effects, or to just give a moment to relieve pressure from someone getting hard focused. As an example, there's a seven second clip floating around twitter right now where a player who's on echo, being pocketed by a mercy, is engaging a baptist. If you look at the comments on it everyone thinks that the Echo should have won the exchange. If you watch the video, the Echo lands a single primary fire on the bap, reloads (because empty clip), throws sticky bombs on him, 4 miss (but he's pressured to stay in the same spot) so the Echo misses out on around 24 impact damage. A Brigg throws a healing pack on him well he hits shift for burst healing, and he throws his lamp down, well this happens, the echo hits her focus beam (she's still damage boosted), the lamp comes out at the four second mark of the video, and it lasts for literally about 4 frames as the echo's sticky explosions blast it apart, and she shifts her focus beam onto the lamp. The brig then throws two more health packs on the bap who nearly drops to zero hp, the echo then quick melees and is then knocked away from the bap by briggs whip shot, the bap survives because of the healing over time from the two health packs and briggs inspire procking from thewhip shot. In that entire exchange, the echo landed one primary fire, 2 direct hits and all the explosions from the sticky bombs (one offensive cool down), her focus beam (her second offensive cool down), and a quick melee. She clicked two buttons basically well being pocketed, and the supports had to sink in three cool downs and all of briggs health packs just to keep one person alive. That's a net trade of two buttons on a six and 8 second cool down versus two buttons with a 15 and 23 second cool down, all of briggs health packs that take six seconds to charge each, and another 4 second cool down. Tell me why two buttons, a single shot of primary fire, and a quick melee from a DPS with a damage boost are worth around 90% of both supports resources. Because that isn't "tanking", it's probably the most efficient exchange of cool downs you could possibly get. No reasonable person should look at this game, see the damage numbers and compare them to the healing numbers, look at the problems tanks are having just from getting focused by DPS in the first place, let alone the rock paper scissors issue with tank balance in it's own role, and say "supports are the problem here, clearly if DPS could kill tanks and supports with less interference, the game would be healthy".