When your Perfect Marina Causes a Helicopter Traffic Jam in Cities Skylines!

[@markusprogl]

Would you mind relocating the Kolossus (or what it's called, that huge statue-in-the-water) to the new harbor? As it originally is at an port also it would fit there better than at the river imo

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

Totally agree on this point.

[@thesheq5023]

Also the London eye would look fantastic as well!

[@aaaaaaa-h7j8q]

@@thesheq5023 true!

[@alienamzal477]

Agree on that

[@teekayfourtwoone4686]

17:11 When all the helicopters were approaching, I could hear "Ride of the Valkyries" in my head.

[@marchutch]

Everyone in Teaport has saved so much money during lockdown they can now afford to take helicopters to work 😂

[@jeffd8465]

I know this is about a year Late, but have you kept an eye on your CPU when the game would "jump"? Do have your game on a separate drive from your OS? Sometimes if your CPU can't feed the graphics card fast enough it could cause issues. I've found that if games are kept on a separate drive from the OS it can run better, I think that it has to do with the computer wanting to do something with the OS making the game wait a bit.

[@xcrackingvoices]

11:17 that bicycle path doesn't seem to connect to anything :P

[@kimlightfoot]

Yer, right. The triple bridge system he just adjusted, the one end of the bridge doesn't connect to anything. Biffa is King of the fixits. I have every confidence him will attend to it now.

[@alienamzal477]

Yh, i remember him building that, but forgot why it got disconnected or which episode it was in

[@florianwei2278]

Thats not a path, its a ramp

[@xXxAngryBird101xXx]

You should have an aquarium next to the ocean/port when you start designing the seaside tourist trap!

[@SadmanPlays]

I still think a lighthouse would look seriously cool. Especially on the top of the mountain. Or by itself on a rocky island just a little distance from the marina.

[@arby1322]

You need a place with a “coffee” name, because there is always that one person who needs to be different from the others.

[@naerbo19]

Create a garbage place with the largest garbage building and have a coffee name on it?

[@britishantagonist740]

Just rename the entire garbage processing industry as "The Coffee Plant"

[@xarzneimittel8220]

:c this comment made me sad, I actually prefer coffee bcs tea makes me feel sick

[@naerbo19]

@@xarzneimittel8220 Sorry. All are different, and I don't discriminate based on what your beverage of choice is. I drink neither tea or coffee, though people pressure me to 🙂. Sorry

[@darthcalanil5333]

ah yes. the famous amusement park where kids are set on fire. I heard It's getting really popular XD

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

😬

[@goldenknight578]

Living in Teaport you can pretty much expect either being set on fire or drowning in a flood.

[@spartacus987]

@@goldenknight578 AND* haha can be on fire in the morning and drowning in the evening

[@goldenknight578]

@@spartacus987 I stand corrected.😊

[@dycedargselderbrother5353]

I think I saw that horror movie in the 80s.

[@swalder2097]

Biffa seeing as it is called teaport you should do a fishing industry area in the delta.

[@H9Gamings]

With the ferries it might be better to have to just stop at the one stop at the front then let them get off and switch, otherwise you might as well get rid of all the other ferries as they do the same exact route but with one less stop.

[@cazza3932]

to be honest I love the little jumpy game comments and they don’t bother me but hope you find a fix or a cause. Your vids have been keeping me going while at uni 😊

[@sachyriel]

flaws give an object character, the jumpy game is unique to Biffa, and has a traditional place of its own.

[@faizg8324]

Yeah my computer sometimes can have worse than a jumpy game so I am used to it

[@patvax137]

I get those too but no idea what causes them. Must be some mod.

[@peewypeabody4284]

8:50 I would reverse the one-way streets as now, the arriving cars have to turn left and cross the outgoing traffic

[@veryanonymousname]

10:40 this time it is jumpy train instead of jumpy game :)

[@curiousPulmo]

You need a serious Fire Protection😂 Both TeaPort and 5B1C are on 'fire'

[@flique3141]

fire watch towers are your friend

[@patvax137]

@@flique3141 You can't put fires in parks down though. Unless with Helicopters.

[@flique3141]

@@patvax137 Fire helicopters - also your friends

[@radicalsolution199]

This helicopter que reminds me of when I found out how many cims will stand and wait for taxies. I saw crowds of people never leaving train stations and other transport hubs. Had no idea why. Turns out they were perpetually waiting for a taxi. And ofc they would disregard the options of transfer right next-door.

[@STABloid]

This will be interesting. Helicopters... They're weirdly implemented into the Mass Transit. I just ripped all of my helicopters out. Too many cims were queing by the 100s, for soooo long most of them were reaching the pathfinding reset time limit.

[@mildertduck]

It looked as if they pretty much spaced out by the end of the episode :)

[@Rikard_Nilsson]

yeah they should have some limiter for them, it's not very realistic for pretty much everyone to afford flying around in helicopters.

[@heretolevitateme]

Cims do the same at bus stops, too. They kinda just use whatever transit is closest, without much consideration for anything else. That makes small capacity options like Helicopters and buses in busy areas like at a port or airport pretty difficult to use. Monorail is a little higher capacity, but what Biffa really needs is a passenger train line.

[@STABloid]

@@mildertduck I noticed that, but I think that was mainly due to the frequency of cruise ships. Or the Cims all despawned at the same time, due to waiting too long. They all disembark the cruise ship at the same time, so this is quite possible. The pathfinding algorithm just doesn't handle helicopters realistically.

[@txboy1836]

@@STABloid . The joys of the cruise industry and how do they all get home. The sad reality is that most cruise ports have massive parking lots and garages for a large portion of users. Then a lot of people will use taxis (or "ride share" services). People hate buses, trains, and other such transport systems due to the luggage they are bringing with them.

[@EldubeG25]

Way out of context, but the lake on the mountain could make a reservoir for an hydroelectric dam above the city👀 I don’t remember seeing you build one👋🏻

[@marchutch]

All the yachts with their sails unfurled while alongside is really triggering me 😂

[@alienamzal477]

I didnt realise that before, but since you mentioned it, its triggering me too

[@flique3141]

came here to say this

[@NameRedacted0]

The final path result looks really nice! I think that'd be a great idea for every section!

[@dondiezel]

Beautiful port! Please add a residential district near it and grow the city!

[@SalmirFilms]

That blank area of the harbour piers (the one without the monorail station) would be a cool area to put some Leisure/Tourism Commercial Zoning

[@JustaGuy_Gaming]

Hey Biffa, you can have one way ferry lines for the most part. If every stop is a double ferry pier you can have one side used for one way, and another for the return. Prevents a lot of ferry traffic jams. Pretty cheap too, the double pier nearly same price as the single.

[@Sarteth]

6:49: So, this is the bit where we let the water run in. Yup, every Biffa fan knows that this little change will flood somewhere in the town!

[@MrEufemia]

I think a bunch of hotels along the coast would look really nice

[@dsb1984]

We really missed an opportunity to call it "Par-Tea Cove"

[@dissonantdreams]

Isn’t there already a “Par-tea Village” in Teaport somewhere?

[@alienamzal477]

@@dissonantdreams yes, and par tea vove would have gone well together

[@dsb1984]

@@dissonantdreams "party cove" is a somewhat notorious IRL place at the Lake of the Ozarks in Central MO, USA. TBH, I'm mostly just expressing my disappointment in myself for waiting until today to think of it.

[@g_e_o_m9369]

Amusement park could be The Boston Tea Party.

[@GreedyDuck1]

Absolutely adore how you repositioned the pathway to wrap around 👌

[@nickbellomo3362]

It's amazing how you can detail so much in the pc version. Coming along great. Look forward to next one as always.

[@MrBradleyearl]

The jumpiness I suspect is just the game unloading something and loading something in. and that quick moment cuases causes it to jump. I honestly don't think much of it. cause the game is probably optimized for vanilla and a single city tile and beyond that the engine just not optimized enough for more.

[@chaitanyalodha3948]

Am pretty sure there is a quay with 2 levels, where people can walk. One at ground and one at the water level and people use stars stairs inbuilt in the quay to walk down

[@IndigoMayRoe]

could you do like a little town/village of houseboats, like you might find in Zeeland, NL?

[@kevinpankanin6222]

Yeah or on lake washington outside seattle. They do a Christmas lights thing on them that is fun to see

[@chubiprince]

The load of people at the helipad looks like a scene from a zombie movie with the people screaming and hurrying up to be taken away. 😅 That looks like a massive airlift rescue operation. 😂

[@xitaly]

In my experience, game started jumping when I installed the "Zoom to Cursor" and "First Person Camera" mods together. Disabling "Zoom to Cursor" solved the problem. Just something about how they both interact with the point of view breaks the game a bit.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

I don't have zoom to cursor, but thanks 👍

[@hdidksbs]

The wild life of the river delta would love the salt water bouth by the canal, for sure... Greta sends you greetings hahaha

[@youtubeaddicted8215]

That was funny!

[@dlwatib]

River deltas usually have salt water intrusion at high tides. They're used to it.

[@FARBerserker]

Put in zeppelins / blimps. Also drastically increase the monorails travel speed on the long straight stretches.

[@ryansmith9771]

That helicopter line looks like a prime subway line. Lol.

[@tylerm.9408]

Such a great idea for the lower piers, that's exactly how it looks in the marina I go to in DC! The boardwalk is high up, but the boats dock down by the water. Makes you wish the game had floating docks so you could just place them on the water!!!

[@kimlightfoot]

Wow Biffa, You totally loaded up some special helicopters. Even they are patiently practising Social Distancing roflol. loving it. hahahaha

[@18usctrojan]

Biffa and Saturday Morning KZbin, name a better combo

[@GertSterner]

Great looking and working harbor. The walking path going down and around, with the boats on the side, looks great!

[@MattHurst100]

Looking good, are the jetties a bit high? Need some sea food restaurants and mini arcades in one of the piers

[@mr_benn]

Do a heli taxi between the port and ferry

[@SiganQ]

Aww... look at you trying to reconcile differences with the naming of your harbor. Much love, from a friend across the pond.

[@Alleykat49]

Nice marina! Since it's a party pier, some string lights down the pier to light up the night time would look good I think! Thank you for sharing this - not only do we get to see a wonderful build, but also some great ideas! Also a nice tutorial on how to use some of the tools is a real plus!

[@rodrigomachado8110]

Hye Biffa, I have a suggestion. What about canal rings, like Amsterdam, and create a touristic leisure area?

[@faizg8324]

I can relate so much to when biffa is working with water and what your building floods. Also maybe add some leisure and tourism themed commercial to the port.

[@Tchelow]

The joys of the helicopter queue. I hope they serve tea while waiting.

[@PerfectAlibi1]

0:40 Helicopters are fixed flying height and any elevation change on the ground will cause them to move with that... XD

[@aleksjenner677]

8:35 you really want to reverse the direction of the one way road. That way you'll avoid traffic crossing over itself. Ease congestion, make it more like a roundabout.

[@Talon771]

Love the helicopters. Cable cars, monorails, trams, and helicopters. They would look soooo good on a wintery mountain map! Please please please?

[@stevengalloway8052]

About the amusement park, which is on fire: "This place is on fire! It's really popular!" I see what you did there, Biffa! 😆

[@latenight6423]

Biffa here's an idea, at the end of every series you should make a video where you just go around the map in cinematic mode. It would be really cool to see all the details of your awesome cities!

[@lilbaz8732]

Loving it. Actually bought it yesterday and spent 10 hours building my first city. 3 hours of that was trying to make a roundabout. Great fun.

[@martinwyke]

A shuttle bus and taxi stops around the marina linking the mass transport options. A boatyard with dry dock, a car park with launching ramp. Some themed commercial for chandlers, cafes, bonded warehouse and alike. When you lifted the bridges for the ferry, one of the footpaths seemed unconnected at one end.

[@swalder2097]

The helicopters look like bumble bees flying around in circles.

[@the_allshow6845]

That's crazy! I never thought of helicopters getting in air traffic.

[@shadedarkenmoon1545]

I'd reverse the traffic on that ferry stop, to prevent the cars from crossing the direction of travel. Also some parks on the end of those piers, would probably look really nice.

[@AndyFletcherX31]

I don't think the yachts should have their sails up when moored, could end up ripping the pontoon off the pier. Probably need some more models without sails.

[@danjoy2]

I would like to see you spend some time naming all districts and industries with suggestions. I often feel its overlooked.

[@abrafkalif]

Awesome job with the harbour again. I realy like it. I wouldn't have the patience to place boat by boat.

[@tlspud]

Looks fantastic, Biffa. My only remark is that boats don't back into docks; they pull in bow first.

[@moldy13]

Cool props. That area came together really well. The downside of those props is that the people don't interact. And since that path is so long, few will use it. You should drop some park stuff down there that will cause folks to walk down there. Pier restaurant and stuff like that.

[@kimlightfoot]

And welcome to the Teaside Marina and Port, a suburb of Teaport folks. Excellent Mr. Mayor Biffa~~

[@Geewiz-trice]

I love your videos. Thanks for sharing. You could have a ferry loop, but it would be a ton of work. You could put ferry ports on the opposite sides of the rivers & connect up the right side & loop down the left. Like I said, it would a ton of work.

[@OyvindSolstad]

Looks great! Now, on the pier, next to the cruise port, how about paths, bars, small restaurants and park assets? A place by the sea to hang out and enjoy the view, see the cruise ships, the sailboats and get blasted out on the sea when the helicopters take off (hhahahahhaha). Anyway, loved this episode!

[@runsolo7418]

Need a boat ramp to put boats and float planes into the water, can't have footbridge with sailboats. LOL spoke to soon

[@jrm78]

Perhaps you can split the monorail lines up into separate units so you have one which only serves the harbor area, and another which only acts as an express monorail between the passenger port and the train hub?

[@dandiehm8414]

Well done, as always Biffa! Definitely need some shops and restaurants and a little park around the pier. Don't forget the greenery!

[@type45tomcat21]

Boston Harbour feel like a great place for tea party 🤣

[@nicdesmedt7443]

Maybe it is too obvious but, maybe connect the ferry line directly to the cruise line stop and maybe even the port facilities? Then a little nitpicking/detailing. A Marina allways has a ramp to put boats in the water. A marina office on shore as well as a marina mall are often available. A yacht dry storage area and a yacht crane are amenities that are also interesting. Maybe some boys to guide the yachts out might be a nice feature too? A small industrial loocking area for bunkering fuel, water, waste water etc. might look nice too.. In harbour reclamation there is usually also some high-rise-modern-appartment complex on one of the protruding ends. That might be nice too.

[@Wayfaring_Stranger]

i really like how the harbor turned out! and if you would make the otherside of the monorail leisure you could call it boston tea party xD

[@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy]

Judging by the sheer amount of helicopters, I think your entire city must be wealthy people.

[@ccsingle07]

The lack of lighting around railing less docks seems like a safety hazard. But overall love the look up the place. Fits well in that space.

[@dimgod5168]

that "this place is absolutely on fire" joke at 1:20 was amazing haha

[@LightspeedVideo]

Maybe add the hot air balloon tour on the next blank quay! And maybe the little airfield which does visitor tours?

[@AbdicateDotNet]

Saturday morning, tea, and Biffa!! What a combo! ❤🧡❤🧡😷 I love your solution to piers! I have always hated those 70 foot drops - You might as well be bungee jumping. You might want to adjust the house boat nearest the wall, it's flooding.

[@samryan3136]

Lights in the marina would make the area look spectacular at night

[@WipZedKay]

13:49 *Ride of the Valkyries*

[@rons3103]

Biffa, @9:53 the walking pathway, goes across the river, but no longer connects with the other side. It was disconnected when you added the exit/entrance to the highway in a prior Teaport video.

[@jacob6.7]

Absolutely love the teaport series great job biffa

[@zombiefacesupreme]

Yay! Biffa listened to my idea to connect the port to the delta! I feel special!

[@Thaistickthai]

Biffa's heli-taxi line has a bigger helo fleet than most small countries...

[@rodrigomiguel2515]

1:54 , my fix was installing the studio driver on the geforce program. It improved stability dramatically for my laptop 1060, even passed my save to a friend with a desktop 1070, with game ready drivers, and he couldn't open it so give it a try! Love your videos and your accent, the save I talked about was inspired on your ideas and took 24 GB of RAM to load.

[@BiffaPlaysCitiesSkylines]

Already got that one 👍

[@MSGBlueshirts]

this needs some cool skyscraping hotels; it would give it a Dubai feel

[@hitechredneck6366]

How about renaming the "Party Port" to "Port-a-Party"? :-) In case the UK doesn't use the term "Port-a-Potty" - a reference to portable restroom units - it's a play on words.

[@Oliver-rh5bv]

If I am not totally wrong, this quay wall is actually walkable. It now looks amazing and better than I could have imagined.

[@illusionblitz8317]

I just got done binge watching all of the episodes of this

[@kennashey]

Add in some of the water sports! Or am I getting CS mixed up with SimCity build-it for phones and devices? *smacks forehead* Well, if there are some beach front assets for CS, then adding these in this area would be nice!

[@stevengalloway8052]

🤔 I can now see why Biffa is hesitant to build a passenger airport: There would be too many helicopters in the way! 😆

[@michaelreynolds1396]

One of the juts into the water should have an amusement park.

[@mukhilchandran.c9208]

if you added water source on top of the mountain near t- port , one with some puddle in it .and follow the contour lines& some how connected it to where you found the puddle (at 2:57 mins) and again connect the canal from party port it would be natural and cool looking . might want to deepen the above said contour lines to keep the water in

[@Wolfboy573]

Awesome marina Biffa!! Love what you made of that part.

[@Warren_L.]

@24:42 Loving the dancing yachts!

[@TheSupremeShogun]

Your my dinner buddy most nights. Literally uploaded right as I was about to eat.

[@Bambi298_LP]

The marina looks sooo cool😍 I'm loving it! And the ferryline through the canal was a good idea...hopefully they're using it so you can remove some of the helicopters👍🏼 Your city is getting better and better...keep up this nice series😄 But...two things: It looks like the people can walk on the quays...so maybe you don't need all these bridges?! And maybe you have to lift up the street with the monorail that goes above the canal?!

[@kimlightfoot]

Lol, where is the fun in a straight line canal?? It shoulda been all wavy and winding, lol. But I am sure in the end it will be fantabulous!! Also, is there a University in Teaport?? Curious, cuzz was thinking, you could spread a University, throughout the Canals, and have aTram connecting the various Campus's, and then bring a Monorail out of the Canals, to meet up with a Train service that can run to and from the High density Teaports train hub. hmmm? And then we could put the party college dorms, nearby with the second amusement park, with a bunch of restaurants and bars, if you can get those kinds of assets, Along with its own walking paths, that wind through the canals along the monorail and tram lines. mmmhmmm, me likes it Mikey, me likes It!!!

[@Francois424]

I know the 20 capacity of the stock helicopter is realistic, and for cities skylines (comparing to trains/metros) very high. But 20 ppl just does not cut it. That said when I saw all the helicopter I couldn't help thinking about "Apocalypse Now" - Ride of the Valkyries. Honestly I think I'd get the "Mars Helicopter" asset from the workshop and set passenger capacity to 75 or something, maybe more. A bit cheaty, but the alternative is just an helicopter invasion. It's the same problem with buses (except they cause even more traffic), but I use "HESS Swiss Diesel 2019: Articulated (Generic)" and set the capacity to 60 passenger. I've found that keeping the vehicle count low helps with late game issues (like reaching the pathing limits built into the game). Tho it tends to break around 300k population. Still every bit will help. I love this series. Few more episodes to go and then I won't be able to binge watch anymore.

[@jeffgibbon2531]

For your marina....look at satellite images of marinas and how docks are typically laid out.....the docks always have a T at the end so that the larger yachts can tie up at the end. Also, what about some tourist zoned commercial along the water on each of your piers with restaurants and theaters and such?

[@frankwybenga]

You built that little ferry loop so your tealovers can take the ferry across the river without having to go though aaaaaall the stops along the river!

[@marcosfogg]

How about this for a name, Teaport's Part-E Port. Looks a bit like a capital E, doesn't it?

[@eak125]

Biffa is so British that even his helicopters queue.