Where are the Missing Guns?

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Arizona Ghostriders

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@griff6985
@griff6985 2 жыл бұрын
I heard about a bar in New Mexico where they display a very rare revolver. It is the only revolver in New Mexico that did NOT belong to Billy the Kid.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
HAHAHA!
@LoremasterYnTaris
@LoremasterYnTaris 2 жыл бұрын
Okay, that's clever. I like that one.
@ieatpeopleand
@ieatpeopleand 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣 That's pretty good right there!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
@@ieatpeopleand Thank you!
@michaeldaltonsr8954
@michaeldaltonsr8954 2 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣!!
@tomjustis7237
@tomjustis7237 2 жыл бұрын
I read that Bat Masterson provided himself a "retirement" income buying quantities of Colt revolvers from the factory and then selling them at highly inflated prices as "Bat Masterson's gun". He wasn't really lying, since he did own them, but they weren't the one he carried and used, a fact he never mentioned. Makes me wonder how many different collections contain Bat's gun.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I can see why he would do that.
@rebelrat3594
@rebelrat3594 2 жыл бұрын
Still to sit and jawl with bat Masterson and buy a revolver he owned even if he never carried it that alone is a story to tell your grandkids about especially if you had a photo to prove it
@musicologo1able
@musicologo1able 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Easy...To make a few extra bucks.....
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
@@musicologo1able Yep. A few of the Old West celebrity family members did this practice. Not just Masterson.
@maxmccullough8548
@maxmccullough8548 2 жыл бұрын
@@rebelrat3594 Bat would've carried it at least once, when he was making the sale! 🤣
@TJ_Beam
@TJ_Beam 2 жыл бұрын
A number of years ago here in Australia they found a famous bushranger’s revolver near his death site after some excavation work. So cool to see it ended up in a museum on display… great video mate 🤙
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
That is great it got to a museum and not somebody's shadow box.
@BradSprinkle
@BradSprinkle 2 жыл бұрын
Ever trip into a used gun or pawnshop could be a brush with history. Cool episode sir. Keep them coming 🤠 👍
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
True!
@phillstricklin79
@phillstricklin79 2 жыл бұрын
Jim Paul, the former owner of Rawhide had a Wyatt Earp gun in the museum out there. And John Bianchi of Bianchi Leather had a Earp gun in his collection (both cut to 5 inches). Also I have seen other "famous guns" in the museum at Knott's Berry Farm. Good episode !
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I've heard of Bianchis. Not about knotts!!
@redtobertshateshandles
@redtobertshateshandles 2 жыл бұрын
Taken to a farm and shot without cleaning and redered useless Primers were corrosive. I remember my cap guns falling apart. Melted down in WW1 & WW2 metal drives.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Wow.
@justdustino1371
@justdustino1371 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, Santee. Yeah, I have found revolvers and parts of them that were burned up in house fires. I have also found guns in the river relic hunting, and I've seen kids destroy antique guns. I caught my brother, years ago, shooting high pressure.32 ACP rounds in an 1880s pocket revolver that was meant for low pressure, black powder .32 Smith and Wesson short loads. An old man gave it to him and told him it shot .32 Auto! 😞 I have also seen a Civil War era cap and ball .36 caliber revolver that had cylinder walls split and blown open, kids loaded it with smokeless powder. I know an old man who lost a hand as a kid, he loaded an antique 12 ga. double barrel shotgun with modern smokeless shells and fired both barrels at once..... Alot of those old guns ended up as what I call Motor Oil Guns in junk boxes at a gun smith shop....I found piles of those when our old gun smith died and I helped clean up his shop for the widow.👍
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
That is pretty cool. I had a similar experience with a bunch of old NYPD S & W revolvers...and kick myself for not buying one.
@justdustino1371
@justdustino1371 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders I saw two WW2 US Property S&W Victory model .38 Spl. revolvers that a hobbyist "gunsmith" had gotten a hold of .... He polished em and nickel plated them, took the lanyard rings out, put faux ivory grips on, they looked worse than hammered dog sh*t when he got through with them! I found a broken Savage 1907 .32 Auto in the junk box at the gun smith shop I cleaned out. I gave it to my brother. I forget who, but a famous wild west figure was hired to advertise for Savage and the Model 1907 auto. It held 12 shots in a double stack mag, that was unprecedented in the early 1900s, and 1910s! My Colt 1903 pocket auto is a .32 made in 1911 per the serial number, I intend to start carrying it. Man I wish I had a real Colt Navy and a Colt SAA in .45 Colt!
@georgewood9482
@georgewood9482 2 жыл бұрын
@@justdustino1371 I have an ivory gripped 1851 Navy that was made in 1863
@justdustino1371
@justdustino1371 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgewood9482 Oh nice! Is it shootable?
@edbecka233
@edbecka233 2 жыл бұрын
@@justdustino1371 There was a pawn shop I used to haunt - a very good friend was one of the counter guys and I got some great deals. He had a 5" Victory model with a horrid reblue job and plastic stag grips. Its barrel was stamped .38 S&W (not special). A guy came in drooling over it, and I asked my friend for a .357 magnum round. I apologized to him and his potential customer as I opened the cylinder. They were puzzled as to why I was apologizing. The .357 magnum dropped right into the .38 S&W chambers which some "gunsmith" had hogged out. THE IDIOT STILL BOUGHT THAT JUNK! My friend and I just laughed and laughed.
@seymourwrasse3321
@seymourwrasse3321 2 жыл бұрын
this has always drive me crazy watching western movies, they just leave the guns after the battle or shoot out. Like you said , guns always have been expensive. No one , in real life would have left them just laying there
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I agree
@steveburton2410
@steveburton2410 2 жыл бұрын
ANY serviceable items that could have been carried off WOULD have been carried off! Guns and ammo especially, but boots, hats and whatever else. But, robbing the dead tends to offend people's sensibilities these days, so the filmmakers generally leave that part out...but not always.
@Rags2Itches
@Rags2Itches 2 жыл бұрын
It always seems like they always took the horses of the dead in a lot of those movies before other items of the dead. In reality, horses and their tack were worth more than the guns many times over. In the 1860's a pair of men's boots cost almost six dollars, colt army pistol was twenty five dollars and a Henry rifle was fifty dollars. You'd have to be out of your mind not to pinch those. Plus checking to see what money your victim may of had. During and after the Civil War horses cost even more since over half a million horses died during the war. Some estimates are as high as 800,000 dead horses in all.
@jjano2320
@jjano2320 2 жыл бұрын
They also left dead bodies everywhere.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
@@steveburton2410On the trail the pioneers would need that person's guns. So yes, they would.
@SmallCaliberArmsReview
@SmallCaliberArmsReview 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting video! I'm still lookin' fer Bill's Remington....an his whiskey too!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Well, his whiskey is mine....he just takes mine. Sigh...
@doraran2138
@doraran2138 2 жыл бұрын
An old gun without legitimate documentation, is just an old gun with a good story. Sometimes overlooked areas to establish provenance, as available, are police/coroner reports. Even in 1880's most well made guns and even some cheap ones had serial numbers that would show up in a report, maybe not so much as evidence necessarily, but as an inventory of property of individual. Many old records lost or destroyed, but many survived, especially wills and probate matter that still may have some relevance today and these are also good source. There may be surviving ledgers from old mail order houses and large sporting good stores that are sitting in some storage setting, that occasionally are found. Tediously going through them may be interesting. (A book reviewed I think on Forgotten Weapons found and published something similar a few years ago.) There are lots of old firearms out there, that have a connection to something historic, some with truthful family threads, but again without legitimate documentation are 'just an old gun with a story'. Some things to consider: 1) Actual verbal documentation by the original user of specific provenance, in old age, with poor memory interferring. There supposedly was case of Frank Hamer, the Texas Ranger that got Bonnie & Clyde touting a Remington semi-auto rifle as one he used, that turned out was made long after the event. Hamer did use a Remington Semi-auto rifle but specif one was an earlier model. This obviously was unintentional. 2) Written documentation by family member that this was carried by person. Jessie James' mother was notorious for going to second hand shops, buying junky pistols, some made long after Jessie was killed and selling them to guillible tourists going to Kearny, Mo. This was intention. 3) Fake documentation, with the very sophisticated high quality printers available now, documents that look legitimate are easily made, aged, and passed off as real. If you have some 'documentation' and high costs are involved, a check by a document expert is strongly recommended. A few things to consider, ball point pens are a mid 20th century invention, with fountain pens (still being made btw) and would be incorrect. Modern paper made by different processes and can be distinguished from old paper, so some forgers will take blank sheets from old books so be aware. All old forms were printed with a printing press and easily distinguished from something printed with either an ink jet or laser printer. A letter written will not have printing exactly centered due to the typewriter's limitations (even the advanced for time IBMs with capstans rather than keys). A computer generated document, say in courier font, will have appropriate areas exactly centered. And there's more suggest you do a search for more information on this topic, even if you just collect the lower priced stuff. A guy in our club purchased a Colt 1902 semi auto pistol, cal .38 ACP that had been in the family of a Kansas lawman from that era. As pistol is considered modern, and he was in a different state, an FFL transfer was needed, and he'd requested seller, on bill of sale, put some family information, and ofncourse he had receipt from FFL that the particular firearm was received and transfered. Good provenance, but don't forget the Hamer's confusion story also. Not meaning to be long winded, but I was fascinated by topic when a lecturer covered this at a collector's meeting. Hope other also find it interesting.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you, and that is important info for up and coming collecters!
@billb89
@billb89 2 жыл бұрын
Sometimes the documentation isn’t legit either, the world of high dollar collectible items can be a shady place.
@ronstoner1823
@ronstoner1823 2 жыл бұрын
I've recently seen several auctions on KZbin where some the most famous/infamous shootists guns were sold for eye opening amounts. Including, Bill Cody, Hickock, and Teddy Roosevelt. I know Roosevelt wasn't a gun slinger per se, but he was the original Rough Rider.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, those guns have been in circulation for some time. I hope some new ones surface in the future.
@charlesehmke8403
@charlesehmke8403 2 жыл бұрын
Coffeyville has Grat Dalton's rifle in their museum, you know, the laying across the bodies of the dead outlaws.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I heard about that one. Glad someone took care of it!
@franksantucci3038
@franksantucci3038 3 ай бұрын
Ah Grat Dalton, used to pal around with Stanley Ketchel, the great Middleweight Boxing Champion, and the outlaw. They were both shot dead. Fact all the Dalton boys were. Emmitt used to hang with Ketchel as well. But getting back to Museums with famous firearms, I've been to a few, in many different countries. But the one I like best is right here in the town I live in, San Jose CA. We have the famous Winchester Mystery House, which has been proven to be one of the most haunted houses in America. They also have a Museum there that has every model of Winchester rifle made until 1922. Some real beauties the likes of which will never be duplicated, some of the finest rifles I've ever seen, and I've been around rifles all my life, was shooting competitively in the Burbank branch of the NRA here in California when I was 5 years old. Back at the Museum they have in their collection Oliver and William Winchester's personal rifles, quite something to see... Winchester Repeating Firearms Co. Not only the gun that won the West, but also the gun that won the Civil War...
@Dsdcain
@Dsdcain 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic topic this week. Seriously as a firearms (of very modest means) collector myself, I found this very interesting, and very entertaining video. Be safe out there man, and have a great 4th.😎
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@fordenginebuildersv8power184
@fordenginebuildersv8power184 2 жыл бұрын
I can say that may handguns have been found metal detecting here in Arizona! Fort Whipple and surrounding area has turned up a few metal detecting! Southwest Tucson Cochise county, bloody basin, just to name a few areas! Great video as usual!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I heard about Bloody Basin...hmmm....
@fordenginebuildersv8power184
@fordenginebuildersv8power184 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders trails leading in and out of old military posts are great areas!
@skiphinson8620
@skiphinson8620 2 жыл бұрын
Ya never know what mysteries could be solved if old guns could talk! I have this old H&R top break .32 with a police quick draw hammer (factory bobbed) that is exceptionally smooth in it's double action trigger pull. Even though it shows lots of use, it’s still tight and accurate. I get mysterious vibes from this gun. It was made in 1888 according to the serial number. I like to think it was owned by a peace officer but it could as easily been owned by an outlaw. This one definitely lived an adventurous life and was not a sock drawer sleeper.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you did the research on it. Treat it well!
@joecuppko40uh29
@joecuppko40uh29 2 жыл бұрын
About 1976 moved into an apartment above a junk shop, while cleaning the apt, found a Spanish clone of a S&W .38 with Spanish Army markings on the top shelf of a closet. I asked the owner if they were missing any inventory they said no, so I cleaned her up and held on to her for a while, then a fella made me an offer that I couldn't pass up, back then those old Spanish copies weren't worth much, but they aren't bad little revolvers.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Didn't even know about those!
@craigthescott5074
@craigthescott5074 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather found a 1865 Springfield trapdoor 50-70 rifle hidden up in the rafters of Fort Lowell in Tucson in the early 1900’s. It’s been passed down to me and I will pass it down to my son. I went to the Fort’s museum and they stated that they have a bunch of period correct firearms but none that were known to come from Fort.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
That's pretty cool. I know the AZ Historical Society has a bunch from the Cavalry that are in the basement. Maybe that's where they are!
@craigthescott5074
@craigthescott5074 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders yea it was missing the cleaning rod and bayonet so I found the correct ones and it hangs on the wall of my great room with a Ames wrist breaker calvary sword.
@nilo70
@nilo70 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Santee for making this interesting episode , and Keeping The Old West Alive !
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@jasonattenborough4026
@jasonattenborough4026 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent video Santee!!! Souvenir hunters is an excellent topic to explore, my ancestor history tells how men used take, the boots, hats, guns, belt, waist scarf, vest and if the dead man was a fancy dresser, he would be strip down to his unionsuit. Mostly, post civil war dead union soldiers/federal uniform were popular to pinch for reasons. The boy grandfather once stated the vultures and wolves aren't the only ones waiting for a dead man. If the man died in a street and look decent enough, the body would be stripped and lefted there until someone pick up the body (which is a whole different experience altogether).
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting!
@phillfoote
@phillfoote 2 жыл бұрын
teeth were valuable salvage as well - for gold fillings and false teeth
@bostonrailfan2427
@bostonrailfan2427 6 ай бұрын
ah, so that’s why Bill haunts you: he’s trying to find his missing guns! plus it’s fun…
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 6 ай бұрын
Could be.
@keithwoznek4087
@keithwoznek4087 2 жыл бұрын
Very well done Santee. I enjoy hearing about the history of the old west. Keep up the great work.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@scenicdriveways6708
@scenicdriveways6708 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video Santee, I've been to that Gunfighter Hall Of Fame, it was worth the $$. However, like you I didn't have some doubts about some of their claims. I wondered how some of those priceless firearms made it into a tiny little museum in Tombstone instead of one of the bigger museums? ( Like the Cody Firearms Museum in Cody, WY. )
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
The owner told me he as a lot of investors who purchased these from private collections. I'm not sure I buy that.
@chrism3872
@chrism3872 2 жыл бұрын
There are a heckuva lot of historic firearms in the buffalo bill museum in Cody wyoming…
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
There are. The Gene Autry museum as well.
@joealbert7773
@joealbert7773 2 жыл бұрын
I read somewhere that Bat Masterson sold Wyatt Earp's revolver numerous times when he needed money.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe.
@skipwilliams7288
@skipwilliams7288 2 жыл бұрын
I have also wondered where some of those weapons of famous and not so famous people are to this day. I always enjoy your stories very mucho.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@indigowolf556
@indigowolf556 2 жыл бұрын
Hey Santee I like this video. The reason I liked it is because there's still some mystery as to where all of these firearms could be. Thank you for sharing a little bit of history and keeping the mystery about the history. Thanks again 🤠🍺🌵 feel better soon.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@jjsadventures
@jjsadventures 2 жыл бұрын
This was very interesting. Love looking at old firearms!!!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Much appreciated!
@Captain_Bad_Bill
@Captain_Bad_Bill 2 жыл бұрын
There the two lever action rifles, one found hidden in a tree & the other found just leaning up against a tree, both being left in those locations dozens, if not over 100 years.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting. They dated the one, but not sure about the other.
@RedProg
@RedProg 2 жыл бұрын
Cup of coffee and Arizona GhostRiders. Nothing better......errr where's the bacon?
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah....where is the bacon??
@UnlicensedOkie
@UnlicensedOkie 2 жыл бұрын
The Colt Single action army revolver used by Oklahoma lawyer turned train robber turned actor is currently in the Woodward Pioneer Museum here in Woodward, Oklahoma Alongside the revolver used by Temple Houston, another well known lawyer and politician, also the son of Sam Houston. Unknown if it is the gun Temple Houston used in his gunfight with the Jennings brothers in 1895, which resulted with Houston killing Ed Jennings. Al Jennings left Woodward after Temple Houston was acquitted with the killing deemed “self defense”
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
That's a good it's in a museum for all to see.
@keithmiller6277
@keithmiller6277 2 жыл бұрын
The owner of the "Gift Shop" pawn shop on historic "2 bit" street in Ogden v, Utah has a Remington Derringer owned by Doc Holliday.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, maybe!
@robaldridge6505
@robaldridge6505 2 жыл бұрын
OK.. I'll break your heart my friend .. WW1 AND WW2 my grandpa worked on 'scrap drives' in N.M. (NEW MEXICO) and saw literally TONS of 'old guns' go into his scrap wagon ..... I loved and HATED those stories as a kid... who knows what historical pieces had to be recycled to fight Hitler.....
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
NOOOO!!!!!!
@joemortimer1763
@joemortimer1763 2 жыл бұрын
Something I have always wondered about. Learn something new every time you you post an episode. And don't call me Shirley.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
HAHA! Thank you!
@Chris_the_Dingo
@Chris_the_Dingo 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, thanks for posting! I'm recently retired from the museum field. Unfortunately, many items are simply not considered historically significant - at the time - and no particular care or attention is given to their fate. Conversely, people will assign a great deal of importance to very ordinary items, simply out of nostalgia or sentimental value.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I imaginge most museums have a basement with fascinating items like you mention that only some of us give a damn about!
@Chris_the_Dingo
@Chris_the_Dingo 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Oh yes, for sure!
@victorwaddell6530
@victorwaddell6530 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks again Santee & Co.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Any time!
@singleshot2218
@singleshot2218 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing Santee! Have a happy, safe and fun 4th my friend!🙏🎚🇲🇾🇲🇾🇲🇾
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you too
@edbecka233
@edbecka233 2 жыл бұрын
I don't care too much about "famous/infamous" guns - but every time I watch a western film or tv show it makes me think, "dang, you oughta be able to kick around anywhere in the west and find SAAs and 92s lying scattered around like cattle bones"...
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
The SAA popularity (which you can see in dozens of period photos) makes me think they were available in almost every town!
@k.j.lindsey3048
@k.j.lindsey3048 2 жыл бұрын
The display at the Boot Hill museum in Dodge City also has a lot of firearms owned by famous westerners. I can’t guarantee their provenance either, but it was an excellent display and well worth seeing.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I'd like to check it out.
@johnburnett5377
@johnburnett5377 Жыл бұрын
I do remember hearing that Belle Starr was buried with some of her guns.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Maybe, but it seems different from what they would have done then. But who knows?
@TimKoehn44
@TimKoehn44 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode Santee. Always informative! I have seen a few in collections. Thanks!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
@dixiegeorge9665
@dixiegeorge9665 2 жыл бұрын
They're not missing, they're in someone's collection somewhere 🤣
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Some...but not all.
@77Sunsetstrip
@77Sunsetstrip 2 жыл бұрын
Probably!!!
@dixiegeorge9665
@dixiegeorge9665 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders hey, thanks for my heart 🤣😂🤣😂
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
@@dixiegeorge9665 You're welcome. Laughter is good medicine, right?
@dixiegeorge9665
@dixiegeorge9665 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders absolutely 🤣🤣 happy fourth of July 🇺🇸
@eliotreader8220
@eliotreader8220 Жыл бұрын
I imagine that Bill's guns are probably in a museum or collection somewhere.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
I hope so....
@ElPatron42069
@ElPatron42069 2 жыл бұрын
I love your content, truly addicting!!! 🙏
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@squint04
@squint04 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode, I hope you are feeling better!! Looking forward to next weeks visit!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I am!
@colbyg.8261
@colbyg.8261 2 жыл бұрын
Cody Wyoming has the Dug Up Gun museum. Its guns that people have found through the years. It was really neat when I went to it a few years ago.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I'm glad to know of it!
@chelseadanico877
@chelseadanico877 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting and informative video, I really liked and enjoyed it. I definitely learned a lot more about the old west and firearms of the old west . I also got a mega ton of inspiration for my old West inspired analog horror series I’m writing.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
🤠
@chelseadanico877
@chelseadanico877 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders thanks👍🏼🌟😎
@greylocke100
@greylocke100 2 жыл бұрын
Santee, any chance you could do an episode on alternate carry firearms? Such as pepper box, single shot boot guns, derringers and such? I know my Great Aunt Harriet in Tempe had and carried her grandfather's twist barrel .32 rimfire. She still had about 80 rounds of original ammo which was loaded in 1901 according to the label on the box. She also has a brace of cap lock pistols that she said were boot guns. They looked to be about .38, so maybe they were .36's. When she passed away all of her belongings were donated to the Salvation Army. I don't know what happened to the pistols. I do know the .38-40 Winchester was given to a museum, but I don't know which.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I've done one on many of those. Will always do more, though!
@wadejustanamerican1201
@wadejustanamerican1201 2 жыл бұрын
Went to the museum, like you had some doubts on the provenance of a few of the guns. Thanks again for another great episode.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@msmorgan45
@msmorgan45 2 жыл бұрын
The Dalton museum in Coffeyville Kansas has the Daltons saddles, guns you name it, a really nice musem, the whole down town is a museum of sorts, items are still donated from time to time as local families who's decendents picked up items that day as souvineers donated them back to the museum, the best place for them is on exhibit not in a closet. One of the banks still stands the Condon Bank the First National burnt back when, and on the south end of town in Oak cemetery you can visit the gangs burial site.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I wanna check it out one day. Thank you!
@ralphperez4862
@ralphperez4862 2 жыл бұрын
I always wondered the same thing. It never made sense to me either to watch these westerns and that they just walked away from the corpse! Oh to get my hands on some of them oldies. Thanks Santee. Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhh-Chooooooooooooooo
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@Aswaguespack
@Aswaguespack Жыл бұрын
The Ark Scene in the Warehouse was great! 😂😂😂 it’s interesting that they can find an obscure photo of a famous gunslinger but not his gun(s) 🤦🏻‍♂️
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Yeah, but that drives me nuts!! LOL!
@jamessell4490
@jamessell4490 2 жыл бұрын
Here in Laramie the local pawnshop has probably close to a hundred old west rifles hanging from the ceiling. None of which are for sale at any price. Would love to know the stories those guns could tell.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Me too!
@waynedaly1718
@waynedaly1718 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting story. Would be nice to see some of those old pistols and rifles. The stories behind them would be fascinating. Thanks for another great segment Santee.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@HARMARSCH2
@HARMARSCH2 2 жыл бұрын
Santee Too bad these guns weren’t preserved more fore the general public to see. You just gave me someplace to visit on my bucket list
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@ewmhop
@ewmhop 2 жыл бұрын
GREAT VIDEO AS ALWAYS SIR,YOU AND YOUR HAVE A GREAT FOURTH. GOD BLESS
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@michaelashcraft8569
@michaelashcraft8569 2 жыл бұрын
As long as I have been a Subscriber I have NEVER seen a full video on this channel, and, the History behind the Story is always interesting ...
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Never seen a full video, yet so many want them to be longer. Crazy.
@robertradley3043
@robertradley3043 2 жыл бұрын
Not to mention the ones that were sold for the scrap efforts during WW2 or otherwise lost to history in various forms
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe a few of them, too
@warrenwelsh9890
@warrenwelsh9890 2 жыл бұрын
It always got me how on movies after shooting someone that they just left all the guns . Guns and ammo were vary expensive and would have bin picked up and kept or sold at the next place they could get money for them .
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah! The argument could be that they can get heavy, and it you're on horseback that's added weight.
@davidmussack4529
@davidmussack4529 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve been to Doc Holidays grave marker in Glennwood Springs. Very cool.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Nice!
@ponydiehl8775
@ponydiehl8775 2 жыл бұрын
saw it and it is cool 🤠🤠
@crawlspaceboy5575
@crawlspaceboy5575 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
You are welcome!
@tinman8518
@tinman8518 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent episode!! Love the old West stories and lore.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@marcosaraiva9205
@marcosaraiva9205 2 жыл бұрын
You are absolutely right " if only could talk " that's history right there amigo 👍
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely
@robshirewood5060
@robshirewood5060 2 жыл бұрын
One of Billy the Kid's revolvers was in the Sanders or Sanders collection in Arkansas along with a knife given to a Tunstall by James Bowie or Rezin Bowie, along with a revolver by Pawnee Bill
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Hmmm.....seems a lot of museums have a gun by Billy the Kid. Either he had a lot of guns, or someone is lyin'!
@navydogsadventures3500
@navydogsadventures3500 4 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 4 ай бұрын
You bet!
@rocksandoil2241
@rocksandoil2241 2 жыл бұрын
The widow of Pancho Villa 'sold' his gun numerous time, obtaining replacements from a local gunsmith.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I don't doubt it.
@tedebear108
@tedebear108 2 жыл бұрын
Good morning Arizona Ghost Riders. It's your friend Ted from Texas. I love hearing the history of old firearms. I have a collection of History pieces myself. My dream one day is to own a Revolutionary War weapon. Either a handgun or a rifle. But they are few and far between and outrageously overpriced. Preserving firearm history in America is equally as important as owning a firearm of today's history. Be careful my friend and I hope to meet you one day.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I hope one day you get that Rev War collectible!
@stevejorgensen5523
@stevejorgensen5523 2 жыл бұрын
I have a Colt 1860 Richard's conversion with notches. The story I got with it is it was carried by a sheriff in West Texas. Colt can not produce letters on conversion as the records were lost in a fire. Everything Colt could tell me fit my revolver and Colt said mist were shipped to the Tex/Mex border. Wish I knew more.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
That's a lot! Good acquire.
@manuelaschneiderexcitingtr5726
@manuelaschneiderexcitingtr5726 2 жыл бұрын
excellent as always
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! Cheers!
@RobertGlazier
@RobertGlazier 2 жыл бұрын
Nice video. Very interesting history. Thanks.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@joep4235
@joep4235 2 жыл бұрын
great vid Cheese ! Certainly sums up why owning vintage weapons is intriguing !
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks, Joe. Happy 7/4
@sam2cents
@sam2cents 2 жыл бұрын
Your voice came across grand - I have Covid and my voice is so hoarse I should be in movies, or singing Barry White songs. It's great to have your videos to watch while quarantining, especially as we're having a wet summer, so far, in Ireland. While watching this video I couldn't help but think of the Bachman guitar story which is in the news right now. If they're like stolen guitars then those guns could be in Russia or Japan or even England (or Ireland) right now. In fact, I remember a few years ago a collector had an arsenal of 19th century firearms seized as there was something dodgy about the provenance, and I don't think he had a firearms licence, which you must have in Ireland. I am also ashamed to admit I never heard tell of Jeff Kidders until now. Great work! Thanks!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciate that!
@Miltypooh2001
@Miltypooh2001 2 жыл бұрын
I find it cool that each firearm that belonged to an outlaw tells a story about time he used it in a robbery or a shootout It's like their guns were part of their life 😳
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
They were the tools of their trade.
@michaelpage4199
@michaelpage4199 2 жыл бұрын
I really got a bang on this one. You really capped off a bit of history and I had a ball watching it
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Glad it triggered those feelings in you.
@robertbuckey6517
@robertbuckey6517 2 жыл бұрын
Such a cool episode Santee! Loved it.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@glennevitt5250
@glennevitt5250 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you Santee for this information 😎
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
You're welcome.
@Saint-eg7yg
@Saint-eg7yg 2 жыл бұрын
I enjoy all your videos but this one was especially good! Any chance of doing a more in-depth look at these rare pieces of western history?
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
That's the plan!
@lukesams3349
@lukesams3349 2 жыл бұрын
Bill finding out his guns are crated next to the Ark: “It belongs in a museum!”
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@johnsamu
@johnsamu 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe after some times people forgot OR didn't believe the history of those guns? It's not that Billy the kid signed an owner's authenticity certificate for each gun he ever owned. The new owners might not be believed by other people, something like "Granddaddy is blabbering about the old revolver he took from a person who's name he forgot". Remember nowadays many young people even don't know or don't care about who the enemy was in WW2, Korea or the Vietnam war. After some time it'll become an old neglected gun in a shoebox hidden on the attic. A new houseowner will clean up the house and sell the gun to a Pawn shop and then the traces will be lost.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
That's all very probable. Look at the tv show Pawn Stars. You have customers selling their family heirlooms so they can play poker at the casino.
@erikbelanger4551
@erikbelanger4551 6 ай бұрын
Always amazed me there was no photo of billy since he was so famous.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 6 ай бұрын
There is a photo of Billy. A tintype. Look up "Tintype of Billy the Kid"
@erikbelanger4551
@erikbelanger4551 6 ай бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders photos of his dead body
@Zig_Waffen
@Zig_Waffen 6 ай бұрын
Billy the kids missing revolver is in pike county IL. I held it Nov 2015
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 6 ай бұрын
Maybe it is. Don't want to bust your bubble, but 3 other places in America claim to have that gun, too.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 29 күн бұрын
My original reply didn't make it, sorry (it just flagged). Billy the Kid's "missing gun" is all over the West in shops and collections. I haven't seen any real proof. Perhaps you did see real documented provenance. Even if you didn't, you handled a firearm from the era and that's exciting.
@promiscuous5761
@promiscuous5761 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Welcome!
@Danny2310C
@Danny2310C 2 жыл бұрын
Great video and thanks for showing all the guns about the great old western days 👍 🤠
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@tomfrazier1103
@tomfrazier1103 Жыл бұрын
Remington rolling blocks were Egypyian Army issue in the 1880s.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
Yes, next to Spanish, they are the ones that flood the collector market
@RoseDeDax
@RoseDeDax Жыл бұрын
Time to go on a journey to collect all these guns
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
YES!
@georgebrown6540
@georgebrown6540 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant video and content, thanks for sharing.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@kaffemachine102
@kaffemachine102 2 жыл бұрын
Good video like always!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Appreciate that
@chriscaskey8420
@chriscaskey8420 Жыл бұрын
Im a descendant of Mr. Holliday, when i was younger my grandfather always had a revolver on a plaque hanging on his wall. Never really thought about if theres a relation there, would be pretty damn cool though.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
I'd say that is cool!
@ericruss4189
@ericruss4189 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to have Cousin Jesse's guns from when he was riding with Bloody Bill.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
It's probably in a museum as another recovered cap-and-ball.
@nagjrcjasonbower
@nagjrcjasonbower 2 жыл бұрын
Another epic episode... Keep it going!!!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
We will!
@matthewlong9369
@matthewlong9369 Жыл бұрын
At least some were probably damaged from overuse/misuse/improper storage and thrown away or sold for parts. Some were probably lost when people died in ways that the gun(s) couldn't be recovered (if they drowned in a river or starved to death after getting lost in the wilderness, things like that)
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders Жыл бұрын
I would be willing to believe the lost/drowned reasons more than damaged and sold for parts. When John Dillinger was killed people around became souvenir hounds and were taking whatever they could from the body. I believe that was probably done in the Old West as well. I can almost see a marshall looking around for the guns, or the guy's pocket watch, going, "Where did these things go?"
@HootOwl513
@HootOwl513 2 жыл бұрын
I saw a Sixgun, purported to have been confiscated from Wyatt Earp during the Klondike Rush, mounted on a plaque on the wall at a bar in Ketchikan AK in 1988. It was a S&W Schofield type break-over, but ''pocket pistol'' sized. [.32, .38 Cal.?] Wyatt probably checked it in at the door, got preoccupied at the poker table, and suddenly later, he and Josie had to rush to the dock to catch their boat -- forgetting or forsakng his pistol.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
It might have been his. To my knowledge, the man had a few guns.
@HootOwl513
@HootOwl513 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders We may never know. I wonder if it's still there? Old West memorabilia is unusual in Alaska.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
@@HootOwl513 Maybe
@c-secofficer123
@c-secofficer123 2 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Why thank you!
@c-secofficer123
@c-secofficer123 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders * tips hat *
@normangerring4645
@normangerring4645 2 жыл бұрын
Very interesting, have a good week 😀
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Same to you
@rhondaz356
@rhondaz356 2 жыл бұрын
Once again, Santee and friends, you hold our interest, and inform and entertain us, as well. BRILLIANT 🤠👏👏👏 Mary Poppins 😅
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly
@dennisatkins9837
@dennisatkins9837 2 жыл бұрын
Great episode there Santee!
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@josephturner4047
@josephturner4047 2 жыл бұрын
"Surely, you can't be serious". " I am. And don't call me Shirley".
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
LOL!
@martinriggs1914
@martinriggs1914 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the great videos
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Our pleasure!
@led8541
@led8541 2 жыл бұрын
Great video Santee
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@paulgraham5909
@paulgraham5909 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!! Very interesting and something I have thought about before.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@BJBlaskovichGaming
@BJBlaskovichGaming 2 жыл бұрын
I hope you feel better soon, Santee! Bill Brazleton had a rolling block? That’s a nice rifle for sure. The loss of Johnny Ringo and Billy the Kid’s guns that you mentioned is sad, but all these old guns are awesome.
@ArizonaGhostriders
@ArizonaGhostriders 2 жыл бұрын
They are, and thanks!
@BJBlaskovichGaming
@BJBlaskovichGaming 2 жыл бұрын
@@ArizonaGhostriders Thank YOU for bringing us these videos to learn from and discuss with you!
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