Where Did Arch Linux Come From?

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Күн бұрын

Today, we're installing the very first Arch Linux from 2002, version 0.1! Let's delve into Linux history in the most painful way possible - full install on original hardware!
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@ActionRetro
@ActionRetro Ай бұрын
💾 Support these retro computing shenanigans on Patreon! www.patreon.com/ActionRetro
@truxttondogyuun
@truxttondogyuun Ай бұрын
damn, you really need that revenue to buy your garbage Apple products huh?
@samuelbanya
@samuelbanya Ай бұрын
Probably for better camera equipment and other stuff. I guarantee you he at least has a lighting setup as well. His attempt has been made, but I don't see any on your end to compete?
@Likenow1245
@Likenow1245 Ай бұрын
Don't waste your money on patreon!
@paulluce2557
@paulluce2557 Ай бұрын
The Nerdiverse needs an Action Retro and Cathode Ray Dude Collaboration....
@RWBHere
@RWBHere Ай бұрын
Nice job! 🙂👍 I have a working iMac G5 ALS, which I bought new, and would like to install a fairly recent 64-bit Linux build onto it. Do you fancy taking on the challenge of doing an install of something which is still useful online? It would be interesting to see how you work around the instability issues with the PPC fork of Mint, or how you install a useful Slackware build, for instance. Thanks.
@csteelecrs
@csteelecrs Ай бұрын
Since Arch is a rolling release, I would like to see if it can be updated from 0.1 to the current release.
@ActionRetro
@ActionRetro Ай бұрын
genius idea
@zoomosis
@zoomosis Ай бұрын
Unfortunately Arch dropped 32-bit x86 support a few years ago, but it might still be possible to upgrade it to a more recent version.
@LouiesWorkshop
@LouiesWorkshop Ай бұрын
@@ActionRetro You gotta do it!
@csteelecrs
@csteelecrs Ай бұрын
@@zoomosis but is it possible to install 0.1 on 64 bit hardware and update it?
@zoomosis
@zoomosis Ай бұрын
@@csteelecrs I don't think you can easily install 64-bit Arch over the top of an existing 32-bit installation.
@joe-skeen
@joe-skeen Ай бұрын
14:10 "I'm not really a computer guy" 😂
@codg808
@codg808 29 күн бұрын
Proceeds to install an entire OS and GUI from 2002.
@TurntableTV
@TurntableTV Ай бұрын
I use Arch version 0.1 btw!
@milkyproduxions
@milkyproduxions Ай бұрын
running sudo pacman -Syu on your system rn
@oguzhan001
@oguzhan001 Ай бұрын
@@milkyproduxions I invoke Punisher's no no no no.
@theworstredstoner0950
@theworstredstoner0950 Ай бұрын
I don’t care.
@Wigwamwham
@Wigwamwham Ай бұрын
Lying for no reason is weird
@jomargamerbrgameplaymunecraftT
@jomargamerbrgameplaymunecraftT Ай бұрын
​@@Wigwamwham but its true tho
@SonicBoone56
@SonicBoone56 Ай бұрын
The Arch wiki is beyond useful for just Arch itself. It's the go-to wiki for pretty much any distro in general since a lot of stuff is identical to other distros.
@AaronOfMpls
@AaronOfMpls Ай бұрын
Indeed, I'm on Manjaro myself (which is Arch-based). As useful as Manjaro's own wiki is, I do find documentation on the Arch wiki too.
@OhhCrapGuy
@OhhCrapGuy Ай бұрын
I'm on Debian Testing at the moment, and my go-to is still the Arch Wiki.
@astroid99
@astroid99 Ай бұрын
I love i for everything other than its system d related help, as I use runit. I often need to go down a rabbit hole just to do what would be a single line on systemd
@AgentBurgers
@AgentBurgers Ай бұрын
Man anytime I need help with arch stuff I just use chat gpt and it's come through fr me so much
@deudz
@deudz Ай бұрын
dont forget gentoos wiki
@Myo-jf7jx
@Myo-jf7jx Ай бұрын
The start of "I use arch BTW" - Sent from my Arch machine [KEKW]
@woldemunster9244
@woldemunster9244 Ай бұрын
N007-K3K!
@CS_Mango
@CS_Mango Ай бұрын
I used Arch by the way. Now I'm on EndeavorOS because it's background looks pretty.
@Myo-jf7jx
@Myo-jf7jx Ай бұрын
@@CS_Mango That's neat, I still use straight up arch with the Zen kernel, works well for me and I made my own background, very proud of how it turned out owO
@deudz
@deudz Ай бұрын
of course the furry uses arch
@Myo-jf7jx
@Myo-jf7jx Ай бұрын
@@deudz Of course I use Arch, I'm a furry AND trans, it was meant to be
@squidjam
@squidjam Ай бұрын
Am I glad Arch exists? Yes, it saved my 2017 mac from obsolescence. Do I think it's a friendly distribution? No. You can do wonders with it, but most of it is non-trivial to the majority of computer users.
@michaelheimbrand5424
@michaelheimbrand5424 Ай бұрын
2017? My 2010 iMac runs OpenBSD (x2, the wife has the same setup), my 2012 runs Ubuntu Studio and the TV-Mac Mini 2012 is running Debian. Last but not least, my PowerBook G4 is on OpenBSD. Your 2017 has a bright future I think. ;) BSD & Linux Macs FTW!
@samuelleandro2275
@samuelleandro2275 Ай бұрын
As a Mint user, I love Mint because it comes with everything I need. And as someone who uses Arch on my secondary laptop, I love Arch because it comes with absolutely nothing. Meaning I can keep it as lightweight as I want it to. Thats the wonder of Linux, two completely different distros can perfectly serve the same person.
@OhhCrapGuy
@OhhCrapGuy Ай бұрын
I don't think anyone would call it a friendly distribution, I'd even go so far as to say that "friendly" implies "make decisions for the user so they don't have to understand the system configuration", and by that definition, being "unfriendly" is precisely the thing that sets it apart from almost ever other popular distributions.
@sweepingmotion
@sweepingmotion Ай бұрын
Fellow 2017 mac linux user here. Running void cause wanted to try something new. Too bad sound card drivers are a pain for my particular machine
@DeHelmonder
@DeHelmonder Ай бұрын
2017 obsolete? My MBP from that year runs Sonoma really well too. Linux flies on the thing, but mine has a touchbar and that sucks for getting it to work.
@rmcdudmk212
@rmcdudmk212 Ай бұрын
So glad Action Retro is keeping the tradition of Weird OS Wednesdays alive. ❤️ 😂
@SixOThree
@SixOThree Ай бұрын
As is tradition.
@BilisNegra
@BilisNegra Ай бұрын
Remember when it all started? Ah, them good ole days...
@seanys
@seanys Ай бұрын
This is giving me PTSD styled flashbacks from the first PC I ever owned and couldn’t afford Windows. All I had was Slackware 3 on a CD that came with a book I bought. Coming from Amiga, that was some serious culture shock.
@Leofwine
@Leofwine Ай бұрын
My sympathies.
@parastie
@parastie Ай бұрын
LoL. I am right there with you. I installed Redhat from a Linux for Dummies book way back in the late 90's. That was fun!
@ajsnz
@ajsnz Ай бұрын
I first installed Slackware in 1993 but I didn't stick with it. I was downloading the install floppy images at University and I couldn't afford enough floppies for the X disk set so I never had a GUI. I tried it again in 1996 installing from a Walnut Creek CDROM from work. The install went fine but I wanted a newer kernel. Trying to compile the new 2.0.x kernel was when I found out I had to update GCC first. I think I gave up on that install and got work to order a newer CD.
@minty_Joe
@minty_Joe Ай бұрын
This was one of the reasons I delayed the jump right into Linux. I figured the developers needed more time to simplify things. Btw, I like your avatar, @seanys.
@alpzepta
@alpzepta Ай бұрын
The thumbnail really kinda remind me of a 90s Amiga Workbench. I love Amiga to death wish it exist today
@SirWobbyTheFirst
@SirWobbyTheFirst Ай бұрын
"I don't like reiserfs" - Someone's hankerin' for a murderin'.
@thecrow3461
@thecrow3461 Ай бұрын
Installing arch in 2002 was a lot easier than installing debian in 1998, that's for sure.
@srazash
@srazash Ай бұрын
i'll be honest, when you said "the original version of arch linux" i was not expecting to hear the year 2002
@yorgle
@yorgle Ай бұрын
At 11:00 when your term goes into an alternate character set, try typing “reset” in the shell. It might reset your termcap. :)
@zoomosis
@zoomosis Ай бұрын
Yeah, "reset" usually works if the console/shell gets garbled. Another alternative is to switch to another virtual console with Alt+Fx, as seen earlier in the video.
@yorgle
@yorgle Ай бұрын
@@zoomosis I’m not familiar with that key combo… I’m usually not directly on the console. Great suggestion tho! I’ll have to remember that for when I need it. Thanks!
@piked86
@piked86 Ай бұрын
​@@yorglethe function keys + alt also works with a GUI open. Useful if your DE crashes.
@Yotanido
@Yotanido Ай бұрын
@@piked86 If you have X open, you need to use ctrl+alt+F* instead of just alt and an F key.
@giphit
@giphit Ай бұрын
@@piked86 when the DE is open it's ctrl + alt + function key. probably cause with DEs, there's usually stuff like opening krunner (alt + f2) or closing a window (alt + f4)
@FrankKumro
@FrankKumro Ай бұрын
Would love to see more early Linux installs! How about Slackware next?
@SpeccyMan
@SpeccyMan Ай бұрын
Definitely. Slackware was my distro of choice back in the day.
@GigaWhatt0
@GigaWhatt0 15 күн бұрын
Hell, install current Slackware. It's still fairly similar. That distro still does everything the old way.
@emuhill
@emuhill 6 күн бұрын
@@GigaWhatt0 Well almost. The only difference is that you are not doing it with 3.5" floppy disks any more.
@bobsock8718
@bobsock8718 Ай бұрын
14:08 - "I'm not really a computer guy" *installs Arch*
@deudz
@deudz Ай бұрын
its not hard as long as you follow the manual
@bobsock8718
@bobsock8718 29 күн бұрын
@@deudz Sure, Megamind
@M1szS
@M1szS 19 күн бұрын
@@bobsock8718 you can literally just use archinstall, which does everything for you, you just need to choose the options you want
@opposite342
@opposite342 Ай бұрын
14:50 I saw enlightenment! That's a pretty cool WM. I think you should definitely try getting that running
@Sayakas_Digital_Attic
@Sayakas_Digital_Attic Ай бұрын
Fantastic episode! It's incredible to see how Arch Linux started with such a rudimentary installation in 2002 and grew into one of the most beloved distributions. I agree that its reputation for being "not for beginners" is often exaggerated, the wiki and installation guide are phenomenal resources for learning!
@a1batross_
@a1batross_ Ай бұрын
11:05 when your terminal gets broken like that, `stty sane` usually helps. It saved me a lot of time and I didn't knew about it for years, so I hope this information will be useful. :)
@binarydinosaurs
@binarydinosaurs 24 күн бұрын
Saved me a lot of grief back in Ultrix32 days on DEC MIPS.
@maikeru6158
@maikeru6158 Ай бұрын
Gentoo next?
@Jossandoval
@Jossandoval Ай бұрын
Only if he compiles all of it in real time on one of those single-core G3 PowerPC
@samuel-rodriguez_
@samuel-rodriguez_ Ай бұрын
​@@Jossandovalworld first 86799 petabytes video
@DienerNoUta
@DienerNoUta Ай бұрын
or void
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 Ай бұрын
Yeah, as someone who has used Gentoo (btw) from about the same year as this .... Arch is supposed to be hard-mode? What, does Ubuntu not even make you compile the kernel or something? LOL-snort.
@kumarp3074
@kumarp3074 Ай бұрын
@@Jossandoval Just think on how optimized it will be!
@SeishukuS12
@SeishukuS12 Ай бұрын
👍 FYI, when the CLI gets messed up like that, just type "reset" and hit enter, it'll reset the terminal and fix that corruption.
@ahmadzahid266
@ahmadzahid266 Ай бұрын
It’s like fully manual installing operating system, no installer wizard… you are the wizard!
@Rood67
@Rood67 Ай бұрын
Daffy is the Wizard... kzbin.info/www/bejne/gYLKnoluha2GkKMsi=eqxVEOXjDn8Y0zUn I watch Bug Bunny btw 😂
@colinstu
@colinstu Ай бұрын
Old Gentoo / Slackware installs next. Also dig into Enlightenment maybe? the OG eyecandy DE/WM.
@mgoddard23
@mgoddard23 Ай бұрын
Seeing Enlightenment screenshots in whatever Linux for Dummies book I was flipping through in Barnes and Noble in like 1999 or 2000 was what got me to set up my first Linux install. I don’t remember if the first one was Slackware or not but that’s what I ended up using up until like 2005 or so.
@domoncar6782
@domoncar6782 Ай бұрын
Old Gentoo on Sun Sparcs for hard mode. For the nightmare mode, get X running on them.
@sockterrier
@sockterrier Ай бұрын
@@domoncar6782 man do i wish i kept my dual 66mhz/1mb cache sparc pizzabox i had back in 2002. a 5 iirc, and i think i ran whatever version of netbsd was current then on it.
@JohnSmith-xq1pz
@JohnSmith-xq1pz Ай бұрын
Shaka, when the Archs fell...
@MarijnStevens
@MarijnStevens Ай бұрын
Darmok
@paultapping9510
@paultapping9510 Ай бұрын
Temba, his arms wide
@costelinha1867
@costelinha1867 Ай бұрын
I UNDERSTOOD..... I understood the reference....
@WIImotionmasher
@WIImotionmasher Ай бұрын
I just watched this episode for the first time on Netflix lol
@DevynCairns
@DevynCairns Ай бұрын
When bad data corrupts your terminal, you can just run the `reset` command. It sends a bunch of stuff to your terminal to try to turn off anything that might have been turned on and reset it to a good state
@jongeduard
@jongeduard Ай бұрын
Yes, but are you sure that it was available back then in that old version?
@mikechappell4156
@mikechappell4156 18 күн бұрын
@@jongeduard reset has been around. It is possible to screw up an xterm so bad that reset doesn't fix it though.
@2xtreem4u
@2xtreem4u Ай бұрын
Oooh IBM Deathstar !
@ssokolow
@ssokolow Ай бұрын
Very nostalgic. That was around the time I switched to Gentoo Linux after spending a year or two on Mandrakelinux as the first distro I daily-drove. I didn't realize LILO had an option for a menu though.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 Ай бұрын
Me either. Been grub since day one, though. (Also Gentoo, also beginning from about 2002.)
@mikechappell4156
@mikechappell4156 18 күн бұрын
I thought LILO was easier to configure than grub. I had a pretty nice setup with multi-booting DOS, 98SE, Win2K, FreeBSD and Linux. I still don't know my way around grub/grub2.
@BrodieChree
@BrodieChree Ай бұрын
Action Retro: I don't like ReiserFS Narrator: Hans Reiser is a convicted murderer.
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 Ай бұрын
Does using the driver mean you have to be friends with him? ;-)
@BrodieChree
@BrodieChree Ай бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 It’s also currently deprecated Reiser4 is it in 2024
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 Ай бұрын
@@BrodieChree Well that's a fair point, then.
@ModusOperandi
@ModusOperandi Ай бұрын
It's a real "better known for other work" moment
@TheDemocrab
@TheDemocrab Ай бұрын
@@nickwallette6201 No it doesn't, but the funding for maintenance dried up after the conviction leaving only a handful of dedicated volunteers which has very real implications when it comes to usability and stability.
@SolaFideSolusChristus
@SolaFideSolusChristus 7 күн бұрын
really showed your chops here im impressed with how smoothly this went.
@northof-62
@northof-62 14 күн бұрын
I just got Serpent OS working on my Thinkpad. It's been in the works for some two years now by the creator of Solus Linux. Apart from only having Gnome atm. and only supports US, UK kbd. it runs pretty quick and surprisingly stable , (pre alpha). Thx for sharing your retro experiences. You're always so bright and cheerful and fun to watch.
@gallitagen5224
@gallitagen5224 Ай бұрын
You use Arch BTW
@shadowj5639
@shadowj5639 Ай бұрын
Picking the IBM Deathstar 40 gig out of all those other drives was certainly a choice...
@spencerdavies4666
@spencerdavies4666 Ай бұрын
Makes me homesick for the original Gentoo...
@fredjones100
@fredjones100 Ай бұрын
Still got my Gentoo 1.4 cd somewhere (and still running Gentoo AND Windowmaker on my main PC!)
@TatsuZZmage
@TatsuZZmage Ай бұрын
I ran it on a ppc g3 red imac you had to stage 2 install it
@7omA
@7omA Ай бұрын
i think your recommendation of arch for people with just a 'cursory interest' is 100% on the money. thanks to the excellent documentation, arch is great for all levels
@sryx
@sryx Ай бұрын
You should try the Enlightenment window manager. It was a glorious late 90's early 2000's Linux experience :)
@binarydinosaurs
@binarydinosaurs 24 күн бұрын
Aside from Tim's Window Manager, you've reminded me of the other favourite window manager of mine back in the 90s - fvwm. Typing that makes me feel SO OLD.
@andresbravo2003
@andresbravo2003 Ай бұрын
The earliest Arch Linux Version I could ever see.
@MonsterMovieTV
@MonsterMovieTV Ай бұрын
To answer a question from the previous episode. I also have a plastic container with old IDE hard drives in it.
@larrythemagicdragon58
@larrythemagicdragon58 Ай бұрын
I know there are a lot of "I use arch BTW" jokes, but I'm a longtime viewer of the channel, and I actually use arch as my daily driver. It feels like this video was made for me. I haven't watched it yet, but my week has been pretty shitty, and seeing this in mt feed feels like an act of providence
@martijnvds
@martijnvds Ай бұрын
How do you know someone is an Arch user? Don't worry they'll tell you.
@larrythemagicdragon58
@larrythemagicdragon58 Ай бұрын
@@martijnvds I was only saying that to tell that this video is relevant to me specifically. If this wasn't about arch Linux that'd be fair, but I'm literally the core demographic this video appeals to, I'm a long time viewer of the channel, and I use arch Linux on my personal computer. I know "funny ha ha he uses arch btw" but in this case that seems quite out of place and unreasonable to even mention
@Nikolai508
@Nikolai508 Ай бұрын
@@martijnvdsI started using arch a year ago and I just can’t explain it, there is a truly inexplicable need to tell people that I use Arch, there must be subliminal mind control phrases in the install guide to make us proselytise it.
@SetOfAllSets
@SetOfAllSets Ай бұрын
I use Gentoo btw
@george1717
@george1717 Ай бұрын
I kinda use arch btw
@Plagueheart
@Plagueheart 28 күн бұрын
11:38 brings back nostalgia. I haven't had to peek into the system in years to get chipset
@darknetcs
@darknetcs Ай бұрын
Huh, I was thinking that it will be more complicated, but it was quite straightforward. Having a walkthrough was definitely helpful
@misterjeffa2128
@misterjeffa2128 Ай бұрын
love the psu brand being hipro. i had hipro branded chocolate mousse today. unrelated of course. but very random
@mikescholz6429
@mikescholz6429 Ай бұрын
When a kernel and a package manager really love each other…
@jay1185
@jay1185 Ай бұрын
15:31 Great video, even though you made me wait 15 minutes for a proper *THONK*! 🤣
@voidkid420
@voidkid420 29 күн бұрын
The sense of relief when u said "cut the jazz"
@AnonyDave
@AnonyDave Ай бұрын
2002 wmaker is such a flashback for me, I used it for a couple years around that era. Was hard to beat then
@johansoderberg4211
@johansoderberg4211 Ай бұрын
My first linux distro was red hat. I remember the pain and sweat to get x to work
@mgoddard23
@mgoddard23 Ай бұрын
And sound. And networking.
@asimplenameichose151
@asimplenameichose151 Ай бұрын
Similarly here ... RedHat and Debian, first as servers, then as DEs - what a long way all this has come
@ne0ne0
@ne0ne0 Ай бұрын
Yes, same here! RH 4.2.
@joelg6740
@joelg6740 Ай бұрын
Red hat 9 was my first daily driven linux install back in '03 at 10 years old. While Debian 3 ran my file server. Then in '04 when Ubuntu and CentOS were released I had them on other machines to learn. But also played with PClinux, Suse, Fedora, Gentoo, DSL, Arch, Puppy, Mint and many others
@Ozmandius
@Ozmandius Ай бұрын
wow i completly forgot about the whole cat the mouse to glitch your terminal font bug. good nostalgia here!
@HexLord-yp6zn
@HexLord-yp6zn 3 күн бұрын
I ran windowmaker recently on Arch. Glad to see it hasn't changed in over 22 years lol.
@juanmacias5922
@juanmacias5922 Ай бұрын
The humble beginnings of a legend.
@JanuszKrysztofiak
@JanuszKrysztofiak Ай бұрын
Writing this from Arch Linux. Arch and openSuse Tumbleweed are my favorite distros.
@DigitalDumber
@DigitalDumber Ай бұрын
Seeing enlightenment 0.16 brings back a LOT of late 90's memories for me. Excellent window manager if you get a chance to try it sometime!
@Nuberu0x1
@Nuberu0x1 Ай бұрын
15:22 my old days as Debian user kicked in and I thought he was going to say "unstable"
@prozacchiwawa
@prozacchiwawa Ай бұрын
A handy thing to know about vt100 terminals (linux' console emulates it). The reset escape sequence is ^[c which you can emit to the terminal by running cat in a pinch. It resets almost all parameters of most vt100 emulators so the font at least will return to ascii.
@59withqsb12
@59withqsb12 Ай бұрын
Sooo interesting to see these early versions, shows how far we've come. Thanks Sean!
@DavidAlsh
@DavidAlsh Ай бұрын
You know you're old when 2002 is now considered retro computing
@michaelpiotrowicz6100
@michaelpiotrowicz6100 Ай бұрын
Glorious stuff. Great watching you do it
@treighpedroche1516
@treighpedroche1516 Ай бұрын
Best video yet! Slackware 1.0 on real hardware next??
@urlhnd
@urlhnd Ай бұрын
Every time you did anything I expected it not to work. Happens quite a lot with Linux.
@starlingmelody4284
@starlingmelody4284 Ай бұрын
i just installed arch for the first time the other day and i've been loving it so far! unfortunately it's on an old desktop with no wireless card, and i have no other desktops to mount the internal drives in, and i don't have home internet since we just moved.... the solution (that somehow worked?) was to boot off the arch USB on my laptop connected to my phone hotspot, connect it by ethernet to the desktop, and mount the drive i was installing on over sshfs to my laptop. couple hiccups but overall worked really well it is kinda interesting how similar the install process is from your video. although the biggest difference i appreciate, given the process i went thru, is how functional is used to be to install without an internet connection. i kinda get that internet is more widely available nowadays, but there's definitely a fair share of edge cases and exceptions and i wish more linux installations didn't assume by default that you have a stable internet connection off the bat has been wonderful though! it's an older desktop (intel core 2 duo i think? and 2GB RAM) that choked on my debian 12 USB, and i only wanted to use it as a home server anyway so i really wanted something minimal and without a desktop environment
@PRKLGaming
@PRKLGaming Ай бұрын
The upbeat jazz is a really nice touch! Fits the video quite well
@RarefiedError
@RarefiedError Ай бұрын
Can't wait to see him try Redox OS
@LordHonkInc
@LordHonkInc Ай бұрын
I think installing linux "by hand" is something everybody should try at least once (in a VM like VirtualBox if you want to just scrap things quickly if/when you mess up) because it's pretty much the same regardless of distro (yes, you can install even Ubuntu without the installation wizard) and getting familiar with things like partition layout and chroot is a great skill to have if you ever need to troubleshoot a system that isn't booting correctly. Also, it's fun and gives you that "yeah, I did the thing" feeling when you finally manage to get things running, if you're the kind of person to get a kick out of that sort of thing. I totally understand that there's people who just want to work _at_ their computer and not _on_ it, and that's fine. But if you're interested in the part that comes between turning your PC on and opening youtube in your browser, it's definitely an interesting and educative way to spend an otherwise boring afternoon or two.
@JoshLiechty
@JoshLiechty Ай бұрын
This takes me back to the days of trying to compile Gentoo on my then-current AMD K6-2. These days I daily drive Fedora atomic desktops, but you're making me want to dig out an old PC and try an Arch install (BTW)
@sirflimflam
@sirflimflam Ай бұрын
16 year old me went through this back in the early 2000s... I was super interested in linux around this date. I tried a number of distros but it ended up feeling like too much of a curiosity than something I could legitimately switch to. The world was just too tired to Windows. Windows 11 has had me re-reevaluating things I haven't considered since my childhood. These days Linux is feature rich and doesn't feel like a contrarian OS.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 28 күн бұрын
Window Maker really hasn't changed. It's still the Window Manager I use today. You just cannot improve on perfection.
@Jdvc-yd5tx
@Jdvc-yd5tx Ай бұрын
I once had an NEC Powermate. The most unexciting machine I have ever used - a typical industrial estate business machine. I much preferred my Amstrad 512, which came with colored 5 1/4" floppy disks, blue, red, green. 😎 🖋
@paulodelgado6281
@paulodelgado6281 Ай бұрын
thumbs up for WindowMaker.
@emuhill
@emuhill Ай бұрын
Slackware which also has a reputation of being hard and non user friendly is so much easier to install. Just make your partitions like you did. Then mount the partition you are going to use as root and run setup. Slackware's install scripts will take care of the install. There are some easy questions to answer as well. The hard part of Slackware in the early days was seting up Xfree86 and dial-up internet. Everything else was easy.
@JeffTiberend
@JeffTiberend 7 күн бұрын
Been cool if you could have run enlightenment as a desktop environment. I always thought that it was pretty cool. Love your videos. I hope I can meet you one day a VCF gathering in the future!
@szr8
@szr8 Ай бұрын
5:35 Kind of weird that it uses "disc" instead of "disk" to refer to an HDD. As a long time Linux user, I also forgot that there were distros that didn't use /dev/hda, /dev/sda, and similar format.
@LaurentCourtin
@LaurentCourtin Ай бұрын
Canadian spelling?
@pjmq
@pjmq Ай бұрын
hahaha holy crap this was a blast from the past. Hours spent in my school dorm trying to figure out why my mouse input wasn't working, why my drives wouldn't mount etc. The dark ages but fun times to be sure. Wild to me that the first Ubuntu came out what, like 2 years after this did? A fantastic time to get into Linux.
@cwaldrip
@cwaldrip Ай бұрын
A mid-week post?!?! Awesome!
@michaeledwardharris
@michaeledwardharris Ай бұрын
Windowmaker looks great on that monitor.
@ricseeds4835
@ricseeds4835 Ай бұрын
I wasn't ready for the wave of nostalgia that hit me from seeing Mozilla
@jongeduard
@jongeduard Ай бұрын
Really fascinating how much similarities there are. Of course there are some differences, but it's all in the details. Alright you had to build the kernel manually. And you needed to do a lot more hardware configuration especially to get the X Window stuff fully working, but the idea is generally the same on many aspects. I am also not surprised about missing dependency management in a 0.1 version of something. Watching this video on Arch btw. :)
@dennissdigitaldump8619
@dennissdigitaldump8619 Ай бұрын
"Aww, no mail", I had flashbacks to using a mini unix network at my first job.
@hblaub
@hblaub Ай бұрын
I installed core Arch Linux the very first time, because my single board computer from Odroid had an old kernel, while someone in the Arch community had compiled the newest one, including the newest software of course. It was a bit more involved than any other Linux I had installed (creating partitions, filesystems, everything manually), but it was worth it. Oh and their Wiki is maybe the best resource for anything. I even found some Pulseaudio problem which I had on Ubuntu.
@danl2073
@danl2073 Ай бұрын
Great video. I recall installing Redhat way back in the 90's on my Pentium 2. Loved the BEos video as well.
@airwolf1337
@airwolf1337 Ай бұрын
6 Months ago, i installed Arch on my Lenovo T500, because i have a steamdeck (which uses arch). it was painful, but now, i learned a lot on partition tools and mount points under linux. Nice to see the roots of this os. BTW my first pc was a P2 233 with a ATi Xpert@work, which had a ATi Rage Pro Chip. Later i paired it with a voodoo 2 8mb from diamond.
@TylerComptonShow
@TylerComptonShow Ай бұрын
I've been using Linux for a while, but not long enough to have to tell X where the mouse device is! We've come a very long way.
@midwestweirdo666
@midwestweirdo666 Ай бұрын
I started using Arch when I was still a beginner. I'm glad I did because it forced me to get good with the terminal and how to find errors in the journal when something isn't working. Edit: I use Arch BTW
@Malcrom1967
@Malcrom1967 Ай бұрын
I just realized i'm sitting alone on a friday night watching a guy install an old version of arch linux...
@renatoriolino
@renatoriolino 20 күн бұрын
Nice video!!! Btw, at 9:04 (when editing fstab) I think it should be /dev/diskds/disc0/part2 for rootfs, since part1 was your swap. Too bad you didn't tried englightenment... it was my favorite wm at that time.
@another3997
@another3997 Ай бұрын
That is the stuff of nightmares! I moved from 8 bit Sinclair and Atari machines onto the Amiga 1200. When I got a PC, a mid range 486DX2/66, I thought using DOS and Windows 3.1x was a big step backwards. I got to know DOS pretty well, but never liked it. Then I tried some kind of Linux... and suddenly DOS 6.22 seemed user friendly. By then, Windows 2K and XP were out, and highlighted everything wrong with Linux. Even today, whilst much better than back then, the Linux world is still a mess. I wonder why Linux didn't win the desktop OS wars? 😂
@Contmotore
@Contmotore Ай бұрын
That was very interesting to watch! My first Linux distro was Debian with WindowMaker, but nowadays I run Arch, btw.
@TomZelickman
@TomZelickman Ай бұрын
I'm suddenly missing the fvwm desktop... That was fun to watch!
@DavidHuffTexas
@DavidHuffTexas Ай бұрын
Wow, what a blast from the past! My first Linux install was RedHat 5.something on an old AST 486 machine, using a stack of 3.5" floppies at my old job at Texas Instruments. Formatting hard drives, configuring LILO, editing Xfree86 configs,...fun times. I actually ran wmaker for quite a while, along with the xmh mail client.
@theredspoon1763
@theredspoon1763 Ай бұрын
Bro casually throws a Model M SSK on the table and calls it a “IBM PS2 keyboard “. This thing alone could fill a whole video. I use a regular Model M btw.
@shady4tv
@shady4tv Ай бұрын
7:53 - yea I can guess why....At the time reiserfs was the "default" for a lot of Linux but after everything went down ext3 was released which became the new standard.
@eldeivis44
@eldeivis44 Ай бұрын
Watching this in Firefox inside my arch made me feel nostalgic
@annieworroll4373
@annieworroll4373 Ай бұрын
Arch is interesting and the documentation is absolutely amazing. I've used their docs to figure out problems with Ubuntu and Debian that weren't documented well over here. I've installed it on a VM, it was easier than getting Red Hat 5.2 working though part of that was my graphics card being all sorts of pain.
@deltara2106
@deltara2106 Ай бұрын
As an Arch user myself I am VERY happy to see this! I'm most accustomed to Arch and it will be my distro of choice for years to come.
@75slaine
@75slaine Ай бұрын
Nice trip down memory lane, thanks Sean. It was a great time for Linux back then.
@quinks
@quinks Ай бұрын
Yes, you could reboot after your terminal starts displaying garbage... or you can use the 'reset' command. Or you can be creative and realise that your terminal got messed up because some semi-random output contained some ANSI instruction or whatnot to mess it up in the first place and instead of going about it the right way, you can just do the same thing to get it back. 'cat /dev/urandom' is what I immediately thought of when it first happened to me, followed by a Ctrl-C. Possibly run it two or three times if it didn't work. Worked well enough for me to have become my habit for about two decades now.
@spacewolfjr
@spacewolfjr Ай бұрын
I remember installing Arch for the first time in 2009 on a computer I found in my apartment build's parkade next to the dumpster
@jose.inestroza
@jose.inestroza Ай бұрын
Great content!
@peteregan9750
@peteregan9750 Ай бұрын
Oh the time spent of building liunx kernel from scatch in early 2000, and the having to go find dependencies from a early internet cafe for software !
@PowerPC601
@PowerPC601 Ай бұрын
I'm having flashbacks of installing Slackware back in 1996.
@momentomoridoth2007
@momentomoridoth2007 Ай бұрын
i have been using linux for 20 years now. Arch is not hard. you just have to be curious enough to google things when something breaks. The documentation is outstanding.
@stephenvillagonzalo9967
@stephenvillagonzalo9967 Ай бұрын
Gentoo with Bootstrap + stage1
@nickwallette6201
@nickwallette6201 Ай бұрын
Haha! I think that was what I did the first time I tried using Gentoo, on an old AMD K6 with no lid on the case. It took a couple a days, and died somewhere, and I had absolutely no idea what to do about it. So I tried again with Stage 3. :-)
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