Where Do EV Batteries Go When They Die?

Dozens of electric vehicles are scheduled to debut in the next few years and over 300 million electric vehicles are expected to be on the world’s roads by 2030. The lifetime for an EV battery is estimated to be 12 to 15 years in moderate climates, but that doesn't mean the batteries end up in landfills when they die.
There are a number of companies working on lithium-ion battery recycling including Li-Cycle, Redwood Materials and Spiers New Technologies, or SNT.
SNT focuses on refurbishing, repurposng and recycling EV batteries to give them a second life. It already works with Volvo, Porsche, GM, Ford and others to take old batteries and make them new again. The estimated reuse lifetime of an EV battery can range anywhere from five to 30 years.
By 2050, the demand for graphite, lithium and cobalt is expected to increase by 500 percent because of the battery boom, so extending the life of an EV battery can reduce the need for critical minerals and new mines.
CNBC visited SNT at its headquarters in Oklahoma City to see how an EV battery is given a second life.
Chapters:
0:00 - Introduction
01:25 - What happens to old EV batteries?
04:18 - Business model
11:00 - Can mining be replaced?
Produced, Shot and Edited by: Sydney Boyo
Additional Camera: Magdalena Petrova, Liam Mays
Senior Producer: Katie Tarasov
Supervising Producer: Jeniece Pettitt
Animator: Mallory Brangan
Additional Footage: Spiers New Technologies
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Where Do EV Batteries Go When They Die?

[@jeremiah03101]

Glad these guys are forward thinking. It's better to anticipate a problem and handle it preemptively. We need more companies like this.

[@dynamitedingo7720]

It makes me want to be an engineer

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Keep Talking Smart Bundesliga

[@kineticstar]

I'm an electrical engineer, and I would love to see responsible battery recycling, but the chemistry used to reclaim the vital materials is not clean or green. The reality is that no one will want these plants opening in their communities. The company shown here is condensing good cells into a singles unit, but that leaves a huge amount of leftover used battery cells.

[@chromolitho]

@@kineticstar Exactly. So where will the dead recycled batteries go? There's no numbers. It's mostly feel good blather, an advertisement, a pitch. The various battery issues are very important stuff.

[@ecospider5]

Well said. The key is that it is cheaper to reclaim the minerals compared to mining for them. The technology problem is doing this in a clean way. So it is great companies are trying out techniques so early.

[@mikewarren5004]

EV drivetrain battery pack recycling and repurposing will become an incredibly important industry moving forward. I am thankful for these startups.

[@dark-violet]

Great Recycling is an essential part of electrification.

[@DietTimboSlice]

If that's the case then how did the first EV's get made?

[@dark-violet]

@@valleyofiron125 It's true that batteries should be made first. However, recycling and reusing batteries could enable us to reduce the costs of supplying batteries, enhancing the process of electrification. It is worth mentioning that the source of minerals is limited, and we have to go for recycling.

[@ruthlessluder]

Like everything else, they show a good recycling facility for PR purpose. I'd bet 80% of battery "recycling" doesn't even come close to this.

[@anxiousearth680]

@@ruthlessluder Lead acid batteries are mostly recycled. If we can reach that for ICEs, we can reach that for EVs.

[@dontbanmebrodontbanme5403]

@@DietTimboSlice What do you mean how did the first EVs get made? Did you watch the video? The materials for the batteries are mined from the ground. That's how they were made.

[@JT_771]

An important part of the EV equation.

[@GoldenTV3]

Nice PFP, can't wait for IFT-3!

[@JuffoWup78]

I think the next real big innovation will be some form of standardized battery dimensions. This will help these companies with recycling as they would have more unified approach so they aren't taking angle grinders to the tops of the units to get at the batteries. But also probably add some automation to disassembly because they could be put into a jig to just unbolt the entire top in a single pass. We already have standardized charging ports on the cars, so locking down the battery dimensions would be the next real step to help with recycling and maintenance.

[@zlonewolf]

@juffowup78 It's not even that hard to undo battery packs. Did you even watch the video? No two cars are alike. Standardize what exactly? There's different car shapes and sizes.

[@LouisSubearth]

Closest we have are the individual cells, which most packs are clusters of thousands of 18650 cells, which were one ubiquitous in laptop battery packs.

[@KevinFields777]

This will not happen. The big innovation happening now is how to put more battery into the vehicle, which means re-designing vehicles so that any void space is a space where another battery cell is placed. Tesla has been able to increase energy storage density in the Model 3 and Model S productions in this way without having to change their production line.

[@_TbT_]

Because space is rare in a car, this won’t happen. This could possibly happen with trucks however.

[@jimmyk7527]

How does this help environment? Most people are not aware how the battery packs are made with hazardous materials mined. Cobalt is harvest by hand in some cases by children. They dont say that. Then you need to charge it IE:coal and natural gas. Now we are using biomass is the number 1 element to make to be green friendly they are cutting trees to make biomass. So the we lose forest in the name of green, What a scam.

[@casablancasj2570]

$ABML - American Battery Technology Company. Holding since 2020 and couldn’t be more excited!

[@ProXcaliber]

You should also check out Redwood minerals!

[@AJ-dn6ej]

damn their stock price is $1! Holy L

[@jimboslice6915]

ABTC is the only US company that will be mining AND recycling. Simply incredible.

[@lilblackduc7312]

'Greenies' will shut down mining, the electric grid that already can't support E/V/s AND the energy cost of rebuilding batteries.

[@elonmuskverified08]

Thanks for the unconditional love, and support,it's nice talking to you over here, where are you from?

[@Tylerd838]

I don’t believe them, we were told/brainwashed that we can recycle plastic bottles. Yet, that was proven to be false. So you really expect me to be fooled again?

[@RM-rh3mz]

Big fan of American battery technology company ! ♻️♻️♻️

[@Rod-bp8ow]

The method the items are placed into recycling standard is excellent. It saves the environment, while raw materials are always derived from its source. It can always be as efficient with its products, goods and the services that it brings. PLDT SME nation..thank you

[@the_rubbish_bin]

This is wonderful to see!

[@patrickbateman1660]

Wish these videos showed the specific processes. Like the black mush. Is it seperated? Can you seperate lithium from that? Does anyone buy the black mush or do they use it? How was the black mush made? Did they just put a battery in a blender.

[@Johrdahn]

0:47 this guy’s laugh took me out. Lol

[@ShadLife]

Great information here. This is just the beginning of a whole new industry that will support EVs.

[@_TbT_]

That industry already exists. It will however need to scale up.

[@frankcoffey]

Folks with home solar love to get these batteries. Even if they are degraded they still hold many times the energy of a Tesla power wall.

[@boost1728]

Nonsense claim. You do realize they’re the exact same batteries inside the packs right?

[@frankcoffey]

@@boost1728 It's not the type of battery that makes them desirable it's the number of batteries and pack design that makes them useful. I've seen videos of folks trying to design their own packs and it's really expensive and time consuming.

[@K5junkie]

Love this topic! Can CNBC interview CEOs from American Batt, Redwood, etc??

[@craigbushon4414]

Since there owned by Cox probably not.

[@danielocegueda4399]

Another great video! Love learning about this stuff

[@ChannelNews1]

as a mechanic I discuss the problems with electric cars in depth on my home page vid

[@MegaSnail1]

Sounds like a company to invest in!

[@davidhowland4499]

All privately owned, so, good luck!

[@RM-rh3mz]

@@davidhowland4499 American battery is not. Their stock ticker is $ABML

[@davidhowland4499]

Well, the video was about SNT and Cox, which is what I assumed you were referencing

[@alexhidalgo8657]

ABML needs to partner with SQM from Chile so they can mine their 15 million tons of the mineral they have recently discovered on the property ABML owns in Nevada. They also need to partner with one of the big automakers in the US for battery recycling (GM, Ford or Tesla). Mining and recycling is the key here for ABML. ABML will be a double digit stock very soon!!

[@rolandalfonso6954]

This was great!

[@frequentlycynical642]

This is so encouraging! I've seen a YT video where a garage that works only on EV's fixed a "dead" battery by replacing a few defective cells. Batteries consist of cells, your lead acid car battery has six of them. It's rare that they all degrade at the same rate. I recently had a car battery that was all but dead. Using a hydrometer (it measures the specific gravity of the acid) three cells were excellent and three were dead! Applying this to a hundred? celled EV battery, you find the bed cells, replace them with good ones from other "dead" batteries. You can bet someone will be rebuilding Tesla batteries before long. Too big a market place and oh-so-easy to beat the price of a new Tesla battery.

[@danyeo]

Don’t expect that normally. Most dealers will only swap the whole thing and charge thousands.

[@frequentlycynical642]

@@danyeo Did I say anything about Tesla selling remanufactured batteries? No, I did not. Apparently there are more and more indy EV garages opening all of the time.

[@danyeo]

@@frequentlycynical642 I didn't mention Tesla either, but yes, it's a rapidly expanding industry. Anti EV critics quickly write off batteries when the ball is just getting rolling. You have to wonder right now, which companies to invest in because you know damm well a few of them are going to take off. If an EV can go 200K and you can get just a few cells replaced that would be awesome. Competition will give better options and bring prices down on repairs.

[@sirdiealot53]

I keep imagining in the future we’ll be mining landfills for minerals

[@Alexzw92]

Why would we put those minerals there in the first place? They can be recycled

[@NWJF]

@@Alexzw92 we already put them there...

[@FatGuyInaTruck]

​@@Alexzw92 Because those minerals were dumped long before we had a use for them, or a way to recycle them?

[@theotheleo6830]

@@Alexzw92 Because recycling is more expensive than obtaining new materials.

[@FlyingArtz.]

Possible

[@peterforan5982]

Great initiative 👍

[@ianoliveira1]

Abml is the way to go. Still super cheap OTC. Not for long though in my opinion.

[@JoshuaG]

0:45 Man's a Savage, but spoke the truth 🤣🤟

[@rsoxboy]

12:43 The American Battery Technology ticker is ABML, not ABT. And it is not on the NYSE.

[@grambo1980]

Also great piece. Glad someone did it. So much bad information out there on social media.

[@_andrii_u]

Hope they can automate the process a bit in future, looks so manual, esp. vs. production of this bat packs

[@kazedcat]

It is very hard to automate when the batteries come in different shape, size and chemistry. When battery cost drop enough it will be cheaper to just shred everything and refine the scraps.

[@bobdebouwer7835]

Maybe IDRA can make a giant vacuum to dismantle it. I'm just pondering on how they should name that

[@templar1694]

What the world should do now is to create a standardized form factor for this batteries in every category possible.

[@chesstictacs3107]

0:46 - That guy’s Dracula-like laughing though lol

[@gridjac]

It would seem like there would be a bigger market for recycling the material. As battery technology improves and changes, putting these packs back into their original form wouldn’t seem the best course of action. I like the idea of the upgrading to current specifications, but that doesn’t necessarily mean to the newest and best chemistries out there. Of course, there will always be a need for older batteries so we can have a thriving used car market as well. Finding the right balance, I suppose, is the tricky part.

[@ProXcaliber]

I think long term, this will bring down the price of batteries overall and thus make things like EVs cheaper, since the battery is often the most expensive component. If we can get the price low enough for these process, then I think the idea of buying a used car may change to buying a “refurbished” car, similar to how you can buy other refurbished electronics now.

[@Freshbott2]

Recycling still consumes energy and has externalities that need to be accounted for. Degraded range in a car might make it unsuitable but reusing those packs in a domestic or industrial setting that don’t have the same size/weight constraints is cheaper and has fewer inputs than turning an old battery into a new one. That should be the first resort. Reprocessing should be the last one when a cell is *completely* degraded. The same happens by default in hybrids. A full EV with 80% of original capacity might be unusable. But a hybrid with the same is not worth worrying and most owners would have zero idea and not notice a degradation in fuel economy. Degraded cells are not dead cells. There are Priuses out there from 2000s with an absurd amount of kms on the clock but they’re still going strong.

[@SoumitraSane]

A cnbc how much energy is needed to seperate cobalt,nickel, etc from black mass ?

[@sngs9565]

Finally....some glimpse of answer! This area always been grey whenever we ask, what happens to EV batteries once it ends its lifecycle...Thank you..👏👏👏👏👏

[@ronkirk5099]

Some EV naysayers ask the question about what we will do with all the spent battery packs. The answer is easy because with battery packs costing $10,000-12,000, they will ALL be either repurposed as stationary energy storage in homes and businesses or completely recycled for the valuable minerals. I expect manufacturers will also help this process by making battery packs that are even easier to recycle. The process will become a closed loop.

[@ProXcaliber]

I completely agree! This can and likely will also cause battery prices to come down at least a decent amount. A good thing manufacturers can do moving forward would be to standardize some sort of battery layout to make it easier to disassemble for recycling.

[@JobeRoberts]

Are Sodium-ion batteries like the ones used in JAC cars easy to recycle as claimed?

[@68johnny54]

Right now, the only Cobalt Mine/Refinery in the United States is In Idaho. It's scheduled to begin production In the coming weeks.

[@devdroid9606]

Li batteries are very sophisticated and nothing like lead acid batteries. They have many different layers and complex structures, making them harder to recycle than one may think. Plus solid state batteries will eventually be used and this means another type of recycling may be necessary.

[@Jeddin]

Clearly a problem that can never be solved. We should just give up recycling as no one will ever figure out a cost effective method to recycle Li batteries. You should probably let Redwood materials know that there is no use expanding their factory as what they are already doing is too difficult to be done

[@bluesfan6862]

@@Jeddinstop being dramatic. EVs run off 60% fossil, 20%nuclear, the batteries are extremely toxic to mine(done in mostly poor non-environmentally regulated countries), and the batteries are very difficult to recycle. When you drive off the lot in a brand new EV, it’s done about as much damage to the environment as if you had drove 100k miles on a gas engine. I am not against EVs, but I am certainly against the current propaganda the gov. Is using to push them. Evs have been around just as long as ICE vehicules and there is a reason we have gone w gas vehicals, as it is much more efficient.

[@Jeddin]

@@bluesfan6862 you are the one being dramatic with “the batteries are very difficult to recycle”. Look at the interviews with Redwood Materials founder Jeffrey Straube former Tesla confounded who started the battery recycling company in 2017. Their tech demonstrates 95% efficiency in ev battery recycling. However they have been mostly recycling laptop and cellphone batteries as they just can’t source enough EV batteries. The supposed EV battery environmental Armageddon has never happened. The batteries are lasting in cars much longer then expected. And when they reach end of life they are being reused as stationary battery storage since an EV battery end of life is 30-40% degradation but 60% of a 40-90 kWh battery is more then plenty for stationary storage.

[@lawrencejelsma8118]

​@@bluesfan6862... There's another problem they let slip out of their mouths. A recycled battery pack going into a new car? New car buyers aren't going to be purchasing a new battery tested from "new" but having to have older Lithium cells with refurbished other cells to really have miles driven and recharged on a new car sold? I'm glad I'm not getting scammed by accepting a new car with refurbished electric cell battery packs that already come with less miles to go on them because refurbished is miles already driven and recharged with what's there. 😬

[@Psycandy]

they go to battery heaven if they've been good batteries, although some eastern batteries may recycle as a different brand. SLA batteries are immortal.

[@TheNewMediaoftheDawn]

That was an interesting piece, obviously dealing with the end of life EV battery technology is paramount…

[@bobdebouwer7835]

They should put in more foam, so we can use it as a matrass

[@thesayn3ver]

They didn't say any of the black mat was being sorted back into individual minerals. True recycling was a last resort. The majority of what they are doing is swapping in new cells into these damaged and degraded packs. The true recycling is still a mystery. And one pack catches fire and that whole warehouse is torched. They have probably hundreds tons of shredded plastic that is going to the landfill. And who wants a half shot battery for their renewable energy storage? This reminds me of plastic recycling currently. We spend tons of money and energy gathering and sorting, but the majority goes into the landfill without and true recycling occurring.

[@Chinhnguyen0497]

when I replace the batteries for any vehicle I always keep the old batteries. it's still valuable

[@That_Guy_Miggy]

As a Minecraft player, I wouldn’t mind mining in real life 😂 I love the outdoors, a rock hound too. I live in Southern California, I went hiking the other day and found small pieces of graphite! I’m gonna go back there to do more sampling🥴

[@shekharmoona544]

Canada is processing cobalt through leftover silver mine refuse. Electra battery materials is probably going to be around $5 a share by 2030.

[@aidencomstockis8869]

$ABML - I’m glad I can scoop this up under $1. ESG lithium mining is the future. As is EV battery recycling. This company will be a leader in both! $ABML 🚀 💵

[@nnnnjljeueueh]

ABTC looks great

[@edwardchiang4223]

A company called Moment Energy is focused on repurposing these EV batteries and has deployed them for years across North America to reduce diesel consumption! These companies make sure new lithium isn't required to be mined for stationary storage applications as recyclers still need a lot of work to make their processes economically and environmentally sustainable.

[@Top12Boardsport]

Actually they don’t die at least not all the cells at once. Disconnect the bad once balanced the pack and you can drive on. We need to get into service batteries.

[@brianswille]

So what about the black mass and what that takes to deal with? Seems to have missed an important issue.

[@davidhowland4499]

Black mass is the minerals that you need to remake the battery. It’s the anode and cathode materials. The black mass is what makes this service valuable

[@ambivertical]

Thank you for this great piece, and I am hoping the best work from these guys and safety from any evil competitors.

[@ChattingwithBrianna]

Reduce. Reuse. Recycle.

[@kimguy4159]

All I heard was they can create a mush of Li and a dozen other contaminants but no ideas as to how to economically separate them

[@devinkenyon553]

this is awesome

[@MrNiceGuy500]

Some people put them in golf carts and then you can pop wheelies lol

[@ioniosif6371]

yep, i would like to establish a battery recycling establishment in Romania!

[@hammertime89]

“Subsidary” 5:30

[@The1stDukeDroklar]

8:32 "Recycling is maybe 5%-10% and the rest is repurposing". So, how long does the repurposing last? What is the overall amount that is actually recycled and how much is not? Can't repurpose it forever right?

[@billkohl449]

They go to Redwood Materials- JB Straubel a former Tesla Executive

[@RM-rh3mz]

Who likes to burn batteries and call it recycling 😂

[@datboijw1361]

American Battery Technology Company has many ex-Tesla employees (who built/designed battery cell components of the Tesla gigafactory). They also have higher yields from recycling than Redwood, lower costs to recycle, and don't burn batteries (feels pretty dumb to burn to recycle). Not to mention they have facilities right down the street from the gigafactory. Check them out, pretty cool stuff.

[@nelsonpun]

Standardizing the design of ev battery packs would make this process more streamlined.

[@chrisschlis9440]

Good to know. Makes me more confident in the future. Now... about the cost of new vehicles... EV or not...

[@super_hero2]

why is the new ev battery rate at 12-15 while the reuse one at 5-30. The lower bound make sense but the upper bound is odd. Somehow they extend their lifetime after refurbishing?

[@imakevideos5377]

because they are being used for different purposes, inside an ev there is much higher power demand from each cell whereas for a stationary aplication the power demand and recharging is smaller thus they have even lower degridation when they are reused. Also, they replace the most damaged part of the pack, because often their are individual cells in a battery pack that have much higher degridation than the others. If you replace the degraded cells the battery can almost act as if its brand new.

[@M6K5S6]

I have a solution you give me a call I thought about this stuff 6 months ago and now you bring this out

[@pikasnipe1]

That looks so safe.

[@markmd9]

The big question is: is there anybody that can separate lithium from carbon from aluminum from copper? Is it cheaper than Argentina and China or Africa price?

[@kuremaClaimer]

0:53 Time for a new bookshelf, John. By the way, apart from the point of resources, the recycling of batteries is critical for EVs. This is because the carbon footprint of battery production is greater than that of gasoline vehicles and, depending on the mileage, is inherently bad for the environment. If EVs become popular in the future, the supply of recycled batteries will greatly exceed the demand, and we can expect the spread of inexpensive products that use them. For example, cheap electric motorcycles with poor battery life, emergency batteries for home use, power stabilization of renewable energy, etc.

[@rilum97]

0:47 Great laugh

[@mikafiltenborg7572]

🔋♻️🔋Redwood battery recycling 🔋♻️🔋

[@vhex61]

Sad fact, only a small percentage of recyclable plastics in the recycling bin actually get recycled. The rest gets dumped to third world country for landfill. So… I’m just as “optimistic” about battery recycling too :)

[@hugokatz]

You say SNT handles 15,000 batteries a month. The guy you interviewed said they get 50 to a 100 a day. At 30 days of 100 that's 3000 batteries. If it's the lower number it would be 1500. Did you just add a zero to get the 15,000 number?

[@bencrilly209]

We already use a recycling program it’s called used tesla batteries for solar storage ..I got 16 right now charging off the sun..there’s not going be that much of a need ..

[@ProXcaliber]

Not everyone has solar panels on the roofs yet, and for some it might be cost prohibitive to even install. We will eventually likely also reach a point where there are more batteries than we can reasonably use, and that is where programs like this will come in handy. And as mentioned in the video, this will probably also bring overall battery costs down.

[@carlosjimenez630]

That’s good. But ION battery still cheaper mineral, take over lithium.

[@themagnificentche1119]

I would like to see what the emissions are relating to this? Next day delivery and all that 😅

[@william2220]

A very good point Sir. It all depends on how you create your energy in the first place. Where I live (in Australia) we have weeks on end where there are zero emissions for all of our energy consumption across millions of homes, industry, and infrastructure alike due to our progressive government's push to increase wind, solar, and energy storage. Once we get to 150% renewable energy then we can re-awaken industries that have long since closed (or invite progressive new ones) due to rising costs and cheaper production based mainly in China. The extra 50% is included as a redundancy for when the wind doesn't blow and the sun doesn't shine, in the very same way that out coal and gas fired generators have an extra 50% redundancy for maintenance and breakdowns etc. Having personally worked in the mining and energy industry for many years, I have personally seen the changes over time as we transition away from one system and towards another. That being said it's interesting to hear the amount of 'noise' coming from the sector's that have not anticipated the transition and the message that they spread. Very interesting times indeed👍

[@georgeevanick40]

Imagine the environmentalist’s response 100 years ago if you told them internal combustion engines only have a lifecycle of 8 - 10 years, there is no assurance they can be recycled and 300 million vehicles will be manufactured within a few years.

[@fastpistonx]

Cost??

[@bennyyeung2172]

It’s easily to go for another 10 years in garden lighting!

[@Septianernanto7]

there's still one thing..... most of these company is operating in the US & EU.... does US & EU would really allowed other country exporting what basically their waste into their border? because i doubt that since most of them ship their waste to developing countries, shipping by Air? i doubt that would be... safe? or do they have diplomatic exemption to promote these things?

[@airbluehvac]

Aquametals does lithium and other metals CLEAN refining. buy their stock!!!!!!

[@davidspencer7585]

Man... CNBC, You guys rock. Its so refreshing to see a big corporate owned media organization doing such amazing work. Keep it up!

[@enzmondo]

He just threw Tesla under the bus. I admire him for that.

[@canadaphil6068]

That thumbnail made me stop in my tracks... It's good to see Kylo Ren back on his feet again. It's a dirty job.. but its honest work. Hopefully he can save up enough credits to visit Ren on Tattooine.

[@ragnarocking]

Proud shareholder of ABTC since just under $.10 per share.

[@robevans5222]

ABAT (American Battery Technology) stock has declined more than 60% YTD. I don't own it, but would be very concerned if I did.

[@daviyen]

There is nothing wrong with pointing out that Tesla is bad at paying their vendors.

[@rocketsurgeon11]

I don't agree with SNT *NOT* selling directly to the consumer. They are not helping the end consumer by only selling to manufacturers or dealerships and this is not helping the case for EV's. We NEED the "right to repair" to be enforced, and part of that is companies like this actually selling directly to consumers.

[@bigbirdwpg]

What about Ford? The Lightning and the Mach-E are selling well.

[@moetorola10]

interview voice volume is much louder than narrator's voice volume. Disappointing production quality for large network.

[@Crunch_dGH]

So, what is the recycling state of EV’s largest market, China?

[@patrickbateman1660]

Probably light years ahead of America like pretty much very Chinese industry

[@altctrldel26]

Can’t hold it in John? 😅😂

[@stevenwymor1398]

This assumes that EV battery formulation will remain the same. There are a host of new formulations and designs for EV batteries in the pipeline.

[@ChannelNews1]

as a mechanic I discuss the problems with electric cars in depth on my home page vid

[@lucansanchez5129]

All consumer products should fundamentally be based on a recycling system it should be part of products assembly system to be able to break down and recycle. If done correctly a efficient system wouldn't never need a product fixing because it would be simply recycled in to a new product from the break down of materials. A efficient recycling system should be as efficient as build of a product. And integrated in to factory system. All process should be in one factory from raw materials to product and recycling in to new product. Tesla build everything in one factory if they could integrate recycling as well this system could be a standard model for all factory systems. It should be a standard model for 21 century factory's.

[@lindsayconley7617]

First glance: 100% thought the thumbnail pic was of the grim reaper.

[@cyberslim7955]

9:40 T junk and payment terms bad, who would have thought! Junk product = junk business! 🤣🤣🤣

[@CalebOlshefsky]

Clicked for Kilo Renn in the thumbnail.

[@RM-rh3mz]

Kilo renn. One of the worst Disney starwars character ever created.

[@adammartin9620]

Those are some poorly designed wood crates storing those battery packs. I’m a packaging engineer. Shouldn’t be that hard to lift the lid off.

[@user-ny2bx8ez1c]

Have you guys heard of Redwood materials?

[@phillyphil1513]

9:38 - TRANSLATION: Elon's good for NOT paying his bills (ask King Charles about his lawsuit).

[@neeljavia2965]

Ok paid hater

[@cjr21]

New jobs!!

[@Native722]

Batteries have to be environmentally friendly or else it defeats the purpose.

[@jessea3165]

Not really, they just have to be environmentally friendlier then what they are designed to replace. Which they are.

[@JayBe443]

@@jessea3165 Says who? Have you seen forcasted emmisions?

[@jackieboy7577]

@@jessea3165they are substantially more damaging to the environment than oil is.

[@anxiousearth680]

@@jackieboy7577 Source?

[@jackieboy7577]

@@anxiousearth680 lithium fields

[@ab3000x]

Cobalt and nickel are worth a lot of money but are not in Lithium Iron Phosphate batteries. Sodium will replace lithium (lithium is pricey but the price has been dropping quickly but it'll never be as cheap as sodium) in many batteries in the near future. Graphite will be replaced by silicon in many applications. Sulfur will, most likely, be part of the chemistry and they'll be a need for it long term. Extracting sulfur from batteries will become more important as oil refineries shut down (yellow cake sulfur is a byproduct of refining petroleum mostly but sulfur is kind of rare on the planet in its raw form unless you're near a geyser/hot spring or volcano. Using cheaper and more common minerals is good news for the environment but bad news for recycling companies' profits. Small batteries like in smartphones and tablets will, most likely, need lithium, cobalt, and nickel for the foreseeable future - they're small but you could probably fill that warehouse with spent phone batteries. I believe that even if the pricey minerals are phased-out the need for recycled material will still be there. Lead acid batteries are the #1 recycled item in the U.S. and this may replace them at the top. It's great to have another video to share with the ignorant mouth-breathers who claim "EV batteries are dumped in toxic pits" or whatever other lies they're being fed.

[@ronblack7870]

redwood materials recycles all kinds of lithium batteries . many from stuff like cell phones. i don't see that with these guys.

[@RM-rh3mz]

Redwood burns the batteries. They recycle like China 😂

[@e8tGrand83]

I hope this is real unlike plastic recycling.

[@ChannelNews1]

as a mechanic I discuss the problems with electric cars in depth on my home page vid