Where do the Springboks go in 2024?…and beyond.

#springboks #southafricarugby
The Springboks are back-to-back Rugby World Cup champions but where do they head in 2024? What are the big questions facing the side as they head into a new four year cycle?

[@danielmacdonald721]

South Africa’s biggest priority for 2024 should be getting the younger players in. There are some fantastic young players over there to name a few Henco Van wyk, Cameron Hanekom, Elrigh Louw, Reinhardt Ludwig, Janko Swanepoel, Quan Horn and Ruan venter to name a few. These players need to be blooded into the squad it’s a must

[@willieexplore]

Thanks for sharing, Alfie. Rest assured that Rassie is already busy preparing for a threepeat in 2027 ;)

[@JaemanEdwards]

Rassie needs to learn what a rugby pass looks. He also needs to teach his team where the tryline is situated. You Saffas don't care what type of shit is served up do you ?

[@vineshnaidoo9402]

What is this Edwards on? Yes , Let it be 5 with 3 in a row my broer

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@vineshnaidoo9402 Tin Arse Kings. I worked with a Naidoo from South Africa. Rueben Naidoo. Useless kant. Always taking unscheduled smoke breaks. Us hardworking kiwis were digusted with his work ethic.

[@willieexplore]

@@JaemanEdwards we really don't care, keyboard warrior. We love our gameplan and our World Cup trophy cabinet is looking pretty solid.

[@hofmeyrscholtz1069]

@@JaemanEdwards Wuzzat?

[@lordJordNorg]

The Age profile of the SA players has to be a real concern for their prospects in 2027. Much like post 2015 for the abs it feels like the end of a golden generation. All front rowers with the exception of Marx and Nche are likely gone. Mostert will likely fade out. Lood and Etzebeth are regularly injured and old. Snyman also has had massive injuries. The Springboks have always had depth but those guys are titans of the game that wont be easily replaced.

[@adrianincapetown7043]

Keep in mind that the Boks' 4 year cycle was only really two years, due to Covid. They only played one warm-up game againt Georgia, between the 2019 World Cup final and the first Lions test.

[@hermanvisser4034]

Enjoyed your questions that were spot on. Your presentation is so relaxed and a joy to watch. I think Rassie is watching the URC games with great interest. The South African teams have taken to this competition like a fish to water.

[@philipqvist7322]

Great analysis - and Merry Christmas to you. Something to consider. Such is the depth in SA Rugby that you can guarantee that a Bok Superstar for 2027 has not even been noticed yet, far less mentioned. He might be completing his final year at High School, playing for a University Team, or is currently playing at U20 level or for one of the minor provinces, such as Boland or the NW Leopards. But mark my words, a couple of players for the future are not yet on our radar.

[@JaemanEdwards]

😂😂😂 This is South Africa you're talking about. They'll probably have the same team of old codgers.

[@neilmontgomery3470]

The Boks do have incredible depth for sure and can rotate more so than other teams. Another factor is the ABs and South Africa come into the World Cup off the back of the Rugby Championship. They are already match fit and combinations and form are already known factors. Friendly warm up games cant really duplicate the intensity of proper test matches.

[@davesmith826]

Given that burnout is a common problem in the Webb Ellis, I'm not sure that the RC actually benefits the Southern Hemisphere sides. I know - having watching a lot of RC - that all teams take their foot off the gas because no one wants an injury on the eve of a world cup!

[@ZO150ZO]

@@davesmith826 since 1987 the Rugby World Cup has been won by a Southern Hemisphere country - it is well known that England is the only Northern Hemisphere who have won it in 2003 - maybe it does benefit the Southern Hemisphere.

[@davesmith826]

I think the simpler explanation is this: the southern hemisphere produces better rugby players. The head to head records in both tier one and tier two don't lie and while there has definitely been a levelling off in the past six or seven years, that has come at a time when France and Ireland have never played better rugby, Australia has never played worse, and the ABs have lost a generational team. The ABs will take the next Webb Ellis and I expect Oz to return to some semblance of their former self. The onus is on the northern sides to take the crown from them. Given it ain't. @@ZO150ZO

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@davesmith826 I think the Springboks should go with the 6 Nations. It's a better comp.

[@chrislenferna4384]

In 2027 we won’t, the RC ends in 2026

[@dumisaralane]

Awesome as always. Thank you!😊 Merry Christmas 🎄

[@angelosmart2153]

Awesome video Alfred. Thank you for the insight..... Merry Christmas.....

[@chrislenferna4384]

Merry Christmas Alfie. I hope you are having a lovely festive time, looking forward to see your festive content

[@Arthwell1]

One of my favorite commentors when it comes to all things rugby! Keeping the effort man! We appreciate your work. 👏🏾💯🇿🇦

[@alfredreynolds5]

I appreciate that, thank you!

[@GAZZA1433]

Love the amazing content mate. Merry Christmas to you ❤

[@alfredreynolds5]

Happy holidays!

[@koosvanderwat998]

Fantastic analysis!

[@user-nh1ig6fy9p]

Merry Christmas,Alfie.

[@Nkanyiso131]

The only thing the Boks will want out of 2024 is a home series win against Ireland. Everything else will and should be about grooming the next batch of players

[@willemsteyn7808]

That mindset is wrong. We need to start winning the Championship on a regular basis. We have only won it in 1998 (Tri Nations), 2004 (Tri Nations), 2009 (Tri Nations) and 2019 (the championship). We have won an equal number of Tri Nations/Championship titles than Rugby World Cup titles. That is pathetic and shows that we don't value that competition. Why compete in it at all then?

[@Nkanyiso131]

@@willemsteyn7808 As he mentioned, South Africans play the most rugby and don’t have as much rest as other nations. But pushing on all front, all you do is risk long term injuries and player fatigue. I stand by my comment. Target the tournaments that really matter and use other games to groom and build squad depth with the sole aim of trying to be competitive in all games.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Yup. Leave the winning to the All Blacks. It's good you know your place.

[@berenecewessels6543]

​@@JaemanEdwardsWhy so much hate for SA Rugby you are very Jealous&Nasty with your comments that SA won 2 World cups and will win 2027 again leave SA Rugby and concentrate on NZ Rugby

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@berenecewessels6543 That's not nasty at all. I could go there if you want (lots of material to work with). As for jealousy. No Kiwis are jealous of the way the Springboks play rugby. Learn how to score some tries and win in style for once.

[@DerekElliott-qn2kz]

Alfred I think Siya will still be the captain, assuming he is still playing well - Cameron Hanekom (Bulls) will be the starting no 8-Maine will have matured even further and will be the starting fly half-Grant Williams will be the starting scrum half

[@angelodelcarme2676]

Hanekom needs to up his battle stats to be a Springbok. He was nowhere the weekend. Fourie showed him the weekend what it takes to be a Springbok.

[@howardnyika966]

Im not sure Hanekom is in the mould that the Boks selectors want at number 8. The Bok 8 of recent times is an abrasive ball carrier who is also a menace at the breakdown. Hanekom is good with ball in hand but can he be a defensive lynchpin like Vermulean? The Bok gameplan right now revolves around giving the opposition possession and defending aggresively. Evan Roux and Elric Louw fell short because of their not so abrasive approach to the game

[@andrewwarren3566]

Some seriously amazing talent coming through. I am super excited about our future centre pairings 💪💪💪 also lots of stellar younsters coming through in the forwards🥳

[@JaemanEdwards]

😂😂😂

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@owamgelem5460 Dricus Duplesis is better

[@Dan1973100]

Merry Christmas Sir Alfred

[@abrahambasson3482]

Great video. 🎉

[@alfredreynolds5]

Thank you!

[@adrianincapetown7043]

There's a giant of a young lock at the Sharks, who's name escapes me, but he's busy learning his trade alongside Eben Etsebeth. One to keep an eye on.

[@SiphoZuma-rn1dt]

Leroux Roux I think

[@yvonnemullen3325]

Dedicated to your trade! Merry Christmas:-)

[@makeperceive]

Great video, thanks for your insight, really fascinating to see the age profiles spreadsheet. The pull of 3 in a row will be huge. Rassie will have to manage people's expectations, which will be sky high, and take pressure off the team. He and Jacques have done it twice, why not once more. Regarding Kolisi to keep captaincy; that's also a key question. In 2007 the Boks won under John Smit but by 2011 he was possibly past his best.

[@heretoplay8199]

Check out Ruan Venter at Lions. Plays second row and flank. Solid player.

[@user-du8em2xq5c]

Interesting discussion, thanks. The only thing we can go by currently is age, BUT we know from experience Rassie does not see it that way (Deon Fourie 37!). He looks at FORM. So, who will have their hands up 2 years from now? The following 2 years (before the world cup), build test minutes into the new players.

[@LeonKlynsmith-wk6oh]

I think Rassie has a plan for 2027. He will keep the team as it is. !!! The best team the rugby supporters have ever seen !

[@pietervanderriet9968]

Great analysis. On the issue of winning the Rugby Championship and rivalling the AB’s on a consistent basis, it shouldn’t be forgotten that all the momentum from the 2019 WC win disappeared under Covid. Unprecedented to have no rugby for 18 months, this time the dynamic is totally different.

[@JaemanEdwards]

What momentum ? The Springboks tin arsed three games and lost another. They were clearly the fourth best team at the 2023 RWC.

[@mthunziphakathi4215]

​@@JaemanEdwardsYet South Africa has it's name etched onto Bill for a fourth time.

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@mthunziphakathi4215 Can't argue with that. Deserved if not worthy champions.

[@Vlerkies]

It's a miracle we "the Boks', won the world cup this year. Forget all the flares and chaff and brouhaha to distract, and despite the amount of effort and depth that was put in and generated beforehand, the planets needed to align and we needed some luck. We had that, and bad luck as well, with Marx and Bongi to name only 2. The quality of depth in the player base comes in there. Anyone of the top sides could have won RWC2023. I think France were geared so well for this. The pool of death really was the decider for me. Looking at it all after the fact it didnt matter what anyone else did, the hard yards, hurt, lines were drawn in that pool. England, although they ran the Boks very very close, were never going to end up on top of the RWC, Argies disappointingly a poor effort from them overall. I'm sure they will agree., They had a great opportunity in the draw. Then the weather in the last few matches, everyone can argue either way. Anyway,

[@JaemanEdwards]

Yes a definite tin arse I agree

[@user-sd2in7tl6d]

In second row we are blessed with very good players like Jason Jenkins, Handre Stassen,Moerat , Nortje and Ruben Van Heerden

[@user-to5dt4cx6q]

The Captain Question is interesting because SA Rugby has a policy that the Springboks Captain should be based in SA and since Siya left for Racing 92 we are not sure if Sa will change that policy or maybe choose a new captain .

[@steventalmakkies6015]

I just know Rassie and the team have their eyes on a few guys that were junior boks, went overseas and are playing brilliantly for a club somewhere in the world. And they'll start to bring those guys into the squad to see how they fit into the Springbok setup.

[@JaemanEdwards]

There are not many of those

[@lordJordNorg]

Will they be as good as kitsoff,Malherbe,Etzebeth or Vermuelan though? Its a big ask.

[@charlpieterse3529]

Thanks for the video, however, I was hoping for much more commentary and analysis on the future players coming through. - who do you think they are? - why do think this? What have players shown in their domestic careers to back up your analysis. More rugby and less face, sorry but we here for the rugby 😉.

[@HiddenManProductions]

Hacjivah Dayimani from the Stormers is definitely a player to watch over the next world cup cycle

[@JaemanEdwards]

As a Kiwi, I'll keep my eyes open. Very ethnic sounding name. What position ?

[@webwizes5620]

jewish nigerian name. plays as flanker and 8th man

[@davesmith826]

I caught an excellent break-down of the Boks a month or two back. It compared average squad ages across nations and time. The main take home point was that the team that went to France will be much changed in 2027, with about fifteen players being replaced, more from the pack than from the backs. Age alone isn't the only factor. Miles on the clock and injuries will count many out - Kolbe e.g., or PTSD, who may be at or close to their prime in terms of age in 2027 but have simply played too much rugby to be fit to play weekly tests. I think some change of style of play will be required to manage the transition and I hope to see a more backs-focused game from the Boks in the future. We've got some stellar runners and playmakers plying their trade at provincial level and while it made sense to play a forwards-dominated game with the pack we have had over the past decade, it won't make any sense to continue to do so if we're replacing the likes of Etzebeth, PTSD and De Jager with players who are frankly not good enough. All teams should play to their strengths, whatever they may be, and I see more talent in the back of the park than the front coming through in South African rugby.

[@dimitardobrev3296]

Think i saw the same video. It's a big factor for sure.

[@mthunziphakathi4215]

We tried the touch rugby approach under Toetie and that worked out well didn't it?

[@davesmith826]

South Africa used to play fantastic running rugby in the amateur era. It's in our DNA as much as dominant forwards play. The problem we have is that we're losing a lot of generational talent up front and it'll be impossible to replace several guys. Good luck fielding a 'bomb squad' of second-rate front rowers and locks. @@mthunziphakathi4215

[@Potemkin2000]

Great video! I love Siya, but I don't think he's got another WC as captain. I see him playing a similar role to Smiley (Schalk Britz) in Japan WC. The group is aging. Next WC will be a new team.

[@stephenshort4281]

Dwebe has fallen off significantly. That aside, there is some exceptional talent coming through. I think that Rassie will be getting them lots of games under their belts. Hopefully Rassie will stay to try for 3 -in a row

[@thembelanihdlamini5395]

I think South Africa is in a good position to play against players from both hemispheres. I don't want them joining the 6 nations. That's not a tournament I am interrupt in. I grew up watching the trinations and to see it expanded was so lovely.

[@JaemanEdwards]

As a Kiwi, I don't really care about the Rugby Championship. You guys should play in the 6 Nations because. It would be good for you as you guys play a NH style of rugby.

[@berenecewessels6543]

​@@JaemanEdwards SA care so relax with your negative comments

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@berenecewessels6543 That's actually a positive comment that one. The less we play South Africa the easier it'll be for us to beat them. We actually help the Springboks by playing them so much.

[@berenecewessels6543]

​@@JaemanEdwardsShame your comments really show hate for SA Rugby We are simply the BEST

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@berenecewessels6543 No hate whatsoever. You're weird.

[@kirkclearidge7616]

They keep winning like they always do I mean they beat us they can beat anyone they are the apex team looking to be a real good competition in 2024 ❤

[@JaemanEdwards]

😂😂😂 Get off your knees and wipe your mouth

[@tsurumichan]

Boks will have to rotate many new players in the next few years, will lose several tests. Probably lose the Championships.....but.....will be a powerhouse again in 4 years during the World Cup. Many of the starters int hier 30s will be the new "bomb squad" replacments. Snyman as a starting Lock will make a more offensive scheme.

[@JaemanEdwards]

You weren't even a powerhouse at this world cup

[@hofmeyrscholtz1069]

Have you anything original to say or are you just gonna hand out contrary school boy shite? If so, everyboy please ignore this wee @@JaemanEdwards lad.

[@JadenPhilander-wj9zs]

@@JaemanEdwards Yet the boks are the greatest team in rugby history. If the boks were not a powerhouse in this world cup, then who was? Because they defeated all you pussios

[@benpiek4428]

Rassie will still be coach in 2027, Nienhaber will be back after his Lenster contract end in 2026. Not sure about Siya -I do know Rassie will only pick the best 35 for 2027.

[@HM-yv2wt]

Side note - is rugby league a thing in South Africa? I feel like with the natural athletes south Africa produces they could eventually dominate here too

[@tappie34]

I think Rassie and Jacques have very honest relationship with their players and will ask all of them who is willing to stay until the next world cup, I think they back most of the guys if they say they can do it. So they will ask Siya and if he says he wants to go for another world cup, they will back him

[@71bootneck]

Fair comments Rassie will be well ahead with all these. He will tell how many days til next RWC. Only worry is ....we have always had an enforcer at. 4 Its as iconic as NZ 7. ..... Mark Andrews. Bakkies. Eben. There is no one coming through. It's cornerstone e of our Play. Eben will have to stay on until we have someone

[@danielmacdonald721]

I don’t know man there’s some pretty good young locks just starting to break through. Janko Swanepoel, Reinhardt Ludwig are ones I’d keep an eye on. And an even younger lock JF van Heerden from what I’ve seen looks like he could potentially be an “enforcer” but these guys need game time

[@itsovergetuptherejoe]

The Bulls were well beaten at the weekend, but those two young locks and the two young no.8s seem to be destined for great things. Mpilo Gumede and and Cam Hanekom future looks bright bafowethu.

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

Loose forwards that i wanna see is roos hanakom from the bulls and hatchiva dayamani from the stormers and elrich louw

[@MyCousin82]

I've been very impressed with Gumede. There is very strong competition for position in the loose forwards but he's a good, young player. Him moving away from the Sharks turned out a good call.

[@UBadmann]

Gumede looks like the real deal for the future. Plays a bit loose atm, but potential CT at 8 for the books, time will tell. Hanekom is currently a good grinder, but leaves little for gamebreaking ability.

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

@@UBadmann one thing i can tell you is that these boys are gonna have to stay consistent and avoid injury as much as they can because the springboks are spoilt for choice when it comes to loose forwards, jasper wiese is the clear successor to duane vermulane but he’s position is not as safe with hanakom roos and elrich louw coming, i just cant wait for next years international season

[@heyeksay]

Roos won’t be playing for the boks until he sorts out his discipline …

[@fohunter12345]

Kolisi is a tricky one. He's just a completely pivotal leadership figure who is hard to replace. At some point though his body isn't going to hold up to the punishing injuries he's had to endure. If we can clone him.....

[@chrislenferna4384]

It is going to be a very interesting four years but I remain loyal as ever

[@davidpells4298]

Akker Van der Merwe doesnt seem very popular with Bok management .. Rassie has always made it clear that a major criteria for selection is that the player must fit into the team culture ..If personality wise they are a square peg in a round hole then they will not be considered ..I wonder if thats not the case with Akker ..playing wise he definetely is good enough .

[@MyCousin82]

Always been an interesting one... Same with Serfontein, Rob du Preez, Marcell Coetzee and the like.

[@JaemanEdwards]

He probably showed too much flair. A no no in the Rassie era.

[@MyCousin82]

@@JaemanEdwards Fine line between flair and being windgat. In seriousness Rassie appreciates some flair but doesn't have time for entitlement (not saying that's the case with Akker)

[@mthunziphakathi4215]

​@@MyCousin82nail on the head.

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@MyCousin82 I like that. Windgat. Is this a saffa word ?

[@ethansolomons7297]

3-Peat planning commences 🏆🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@JaemanEdwards]

Operation "Tin Arse"

[@willemsteyn7808]

I would bring in Ackerman from Gloucester and play him at lock. The Du Preez Brothers can cover flank and nr8. Frankie Horne of the Lions is also a future bok flank/nr8.

[@Forest9528]

I think there's a couple of young lions players who all deserve a shout and a first cap this cycle Frankie Horne as you said, mohamba (as a 9 for international since I believe both faf and cobus won't be around 2027), henco van wyk shows promise, Jordan hendrikse has the talent now he needs the experience, Asenathi Ntlabakanye is an absolute fucking tank of a man and the best part of his game is the fact that he's also not a slow blob or a skill less piece of beef, that boy actually can get some gas and he has so many clips with his quick hands it's ridiculous AND he regularly plays 70 minutes which for a guy of his size is just stupid. That young stormers number 8 is very promising imo and I think. Emmanuel Tshituka is reminding me of a young siya and I'm sure he'll grow into a great player

[@deansisqoxv20]

Getting a solid young openside flanker in the mould of Francois Louw, Schalk Berger should be a top priority. Someone for Siya, Smith, and v Staden to mentor.

[@nathancassels635]

The funny thing is, Fowards peak in thier early or mid 30s.Peak for strength. Backs peak between 27-30, potentially speed and strength at its most balance. Always more difficult to replace backs. SA have 50% young forwards, backs in their peak for the next world cup.

[@chrisbossman1978]

Great analysis. The Boks have some strong candidates coming through to step into certain positions, but there are a few positions where more depth is required. In my opinion i don't think the Boks can win the next WC with the same players or even by playing the same style.

[@hofmeyrscholtz1069]

i agree, the rest of the world sat up after 2019, and look how we weren't so dominant upfront anymore

[@adrianincapetown7043]

Players that never made the 2023 WC Squad, that could make the next WC, Thomas Du Toit, Wilco Louw, Johan Grobelaar, Ruan Nortje, Elrich Louw, Evan Roos, etc, etc. In addition there are numerous younger players coming through like Cameron Hanekom, and a whole bunch at the Lions.

[@orlandosadie6283]

Merry Xmas Alfred. No2 Andre Hugo Venter for sure. His dad was a Bok Legend so he's got pedigree. AND MM No. 7 Ben Jason Dixon replacement for PSTD Evan Roos no8 want to see Eben & Kolisi and Rassie still there Big rebuild to start 2024 but maybe 1 year left to go big for RC and current squad selection and start blooding the new players in 2025

[@dandreehlers9817]

Typical stormers fan😂only your players selected...groblaar is so much beter aswell as nortje, louw etc

[@KarateGucci]

You must be a Big Stormer fan ,ek se . Sorry my bra, I dont agree , Roos is not there yet in fact I think he lost form the day everybody ( including me ) made a big Hooha about him . Too many mistakes basically . He has to learn some soft skills to go with the brawn . The other Stormer flanker you mention , Dixon somebody ... All I'll say about that is ...YES in the loose forwards department we are thin quite very thin compared to the past but if anybody, I think Emmanualv Tshituka or Phepsi Buthelezi is more likely to step up to the task, as they say . Almost forgot to say , about Venter you are I think 100% on the ball I think . Very Impressed with his game and I noticed that he always stand out as a player in a game . His Dad is a Legend of note as you rightly say and as interesting fact, I polished Andre's boots a few times in the Army since he was my Corporal for some times 🙂👌Best guy ever , he was also our fitness trainer and one of the heaviest Parabats aloud to jump 120 kg's.....and as hard as he was on the field ( the toughest of them all ) he was the ONE and only Corporal who never abused his power on us poor troops 😂Merry merry 😂

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

@@dandreehlers9817grobbler gets injured every two weeks i dont see him getting a call up , hugo venter is genuinely good

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

Lol hachiva daymani is more likely to get a call up iver dixon lets be honest, the one person i see replacing peiter steph is elrich louw

[@orlandosadie6283]

@@KarateGucci merry Xmas I agree Roos form has gone walkabout 2023 but he was hot 2021/22 and base on that I believe he will be in the 2027 WC team. Tsutsuka yes he had lots of great games for the Lions. But Pepsi I don't think he has what it takes. I was impress with that new no8 replacement for the bulls on Saturday

[@egnercoetzee5291]

I have a different opinion Hookers will always come through and we have scrumhalves and locks. The problem is at 3, centres ( because even if you have 12/13 you need combinations) and then most importantly loose forward. And to give Manie more game time to work on his kicks.

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

David kriel from bulls Stenkamp from bulls as a prop option and bring back wilco louw whos also at bulls Moodie is also a future centre i think we need one more wing and thats gonna be tyrone greene look him up, and a 15

[@hofmeyrscholtz1069]

Moodie is a future world class playmaker and I know Wilco from his time with the Stormers, also potentially world class and very good on his feet @@koketsoncongwane1602

[@tobolee6385]

The backs are a bit small ..one or 2 is ok ..but u need a few big boys in there ....

[@JaemanEdwards]

Where are the white players with even an ounce of flair in South Africa ? No Beauden Barretts over there ?

[@deansisqoxv20]

Would be interested to see who the next Cappie is. My money is on Lukhanyo Am but dammit is he playing in a team that underperforming.

[@armstrongmcbaye5986]

second row - i cant believe everyone has just forgotten about Lood De Jagger

[@dillanarendse9730]

How are you all forgetting RG Snyman?

[@brandonfaber4987]

As long as Siya remains in form he stays captain. I imagine that will be the case.

[@turiamitchell2827]

How about try and win a final Super Rugby title in the southern hemisphere…😂🤣😁

[@ryanberelowitz7464]

I get the feeling Orie is done at test level. He's also over 30 and never stood out at test level. I feel the other over 30s will stick around. LH locks we are well stocked but it's the TH locks that may be a bit thin.

[@subbie5498]

Orie is a great lineout jumper and has great skills he'll stay there for sure

[@ryanberelowitz7464]

@subbie5498 I mean he's obviously good. I just think if we're going to start bringing some younger locks through I feel he will be one to miss out.

[@UBadmann]

Evans good replacement at 4, big unit, very physical and good rugby brain.

[@danielmacdonald721]

Hanekom is better already, better prospect

[@wlk2408]

There are many young players that can play. The question is will there be enough time to get them enough experience. Props Mchunu, Wilco Louw, Thomas Du Toit, Ox Nche, Neethling Fouche and Matanshima are all still in their twenties. Hookers Johann Grobbelaar and Andre Hugo Venter the son of Andre Venter the blindside Springbok flank. Locks RG Snyman,JD Schickerling, Jason Jenkins, Nortje, Moerat, Van Heerden, Rahl are all still in their twenties. Backrow, Wiese, Venter, Roos, Hanekom, Louw, Horn, Pepsi, Dayimani, Marco Van Staden, and many more are still in their twenties. As for flyhalfs watch Sacha Feinberg-Mngomezulu. Midfield, Van Wyk, Hartzenberg, Wings, Zas Fullbacks Green There are so much talent, the question is how do you give them experience before 2027.

[@KekeHimona]

You have 4 years…just like other teams

[@championlehlohonolontulini9957]

They should inject some freshness in that forward pack. I think they will need 4 years to rebuild again.

[@Waywind420]

Boks have strength across the park I don't know if they're the actual best team, seemed to win the World cup more based on circumstance/ luck than being outright dominant. There's 4 teams all capable of defeating each other.

[@KekeHimona]

Absolutely agree…I view France, Ireland, South Africa and NZL as any team who could take a World Cup. It can only be great for future rugby to have teams like these competing to give us some great matches. Let’s hope the rugby rules and refereeing doesn’t tangle matches up more than it has

[@blessingmathayo]

What quantifies “the best team”?

[@Waywind420]

@@KekeHimona They all play the game so well that anyone of them could have won the 2023 world cup. i've always considered the boks to be brutish and simplistic, but they showed that they are intelligent, versatile and can actually play with running flair. They've changed stylistically without abandoning that brutality they're famed for. Was really fun watching the French, Irish and All Blacks too this year.

[@JaemanEdwards]

The All Blacks are the obvious best team in the world. Their stats back this up. I rate France second best, Ireland third, and the Springboks 4th best team.

[@blessingmathayo]

@@JaemanEdwards again what Quantifies the best team?

[@affiliateclimbmax9287]

Wilco Louw must be called back 29 yrs old. Dwebba blew the Ellis Park test. Need a replacement for PSD to be bled in over next 2 years a big mobile guys that can tackle hard as nails.

[@paulsnyman5869]

Re second row... How did you Forget RG Snyman at 28 years old? Or Jean Kleyn at 30.... and Lock will always be well stocked! 😅

[@jacohammond9644]

I think they should during this 4 years here and there prepare to bring in a new captain under Siya. But im actually thinking they already thought about that and done something about it. It will be good to win rugby championship but Rassie did say in the past that the RWC are the goals. Im not saying they not playing to win but this are used to build depth, see what works and what dont,try different things and build towards the wc. They have alot of depth in the sqaud with young players coming through and who can take over too. Just some who comes to mind are Williams, Moody, Esterhuizen ext. Rassie will forsure be there one more in my view and go for 3 in a row. I think we need one more specialist hooker for now as Bongi and Marx still will be there too. Marx in my opinion the best hooker in the world currently. Fatigued urc players are an issue but good in a sense as they build alot of experience local + international. In a sense that builds depth also for when the time comes. Williams i say must in the future take over from Faf. He is brilliant! Lood de Jager also still to be there, Snyman and JK. A very important area in my view are fullback. We forsure need an extra fullback. Overall happy with how things are looking though. Hope Nienaber joins Rassie in 2026 to lead the Boks again in 2027. 🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦🇿🇦

[@RNRSA2023]

Thank you Alfie - very good analysis. However, I think our biggest problem is that there are currently not enough young black players coming through and specifically, at least, 5 leaders. In the current squad, stars like Siya, Bongi, Trevor, Ox, Marvin, Mapimpi, Am, etc. have been groomed over a long period of time. We desperately need more traction in the rural areas. (Remember, soccer is our national sport and so much easier to play where no facilities exist.) We simply don't have the money or the scouting staff to "mine" our rural areas. In addition, we can't simply take youngsters with potential and place them in "rugby schools" in cities away from their families. To protect and develop the game we love so much, we need to develop the game in our rural areas and for that, we need the help of Europe. (Funding, administration, coaching, etc.) I don't think Nieu Zealand, the Aussies and Argentina have the resources to assist on a sustainable basis. In short, I think the rugby world would be much poorer without the Boks and without concerted and structured assistance from Europe, we will be just some insignificant rugby playing nation in the next 20 years. Again, thank you for your analysis and I fully understand that your comments are focusing on "squad level" and not the management and structure of rugby in South Africa.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Very pessimistic for a world cup winner

[@RNRSA2023]

@JaemanEdwards Yes, you are probably right. However, I have some inside knowledge what Jacques and Rassie went through over a number of years to identify, develop and establish players from the rural areas into the main stream

[@calvinterry4342]

Steph Dutoit without a doubt A private assassin If you on his radar you are going down

[@rayrorke9158]

" hulle weet nie wat ons weet nie" don't worry about us worry about yourself first.

[@onlinebaas]

I think Lukhanyo Am should be the next captain. Much more technical than Kholisi.

[@Dan1973100]

If I have to look into the crystal ball of South African Rugby, the new impact leader after Siya, will be Canan Moodie, supported by older leaders

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

Boks never put a backline player as captain, i see the likes of elrich louw can be the next bok captain

[@wernerswardt7512]

Johan Grobelaar is my best choice at #2 but if Marx heal well he is still #1

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

Grobbler is always injured thats the only thing standing in his way of a call up, hugo venter from the stormers is going to be big! He’ll be the next marx

[@Skallywax]

Kolisi will come of bench for experience like Vermeulen. Not captain. But in squad for sure.

[@samirfranciscus994]

my pick at hooker is the young Stormers Andre-Hugo Venter. Son of a springbok I think he has potential.

[@evanh8749]

Position wise for me Hooker, Lock, Centre combinations and Fullback are concerns for depth. Think Marx will be in the mix. Think we'll see new options blooded and Dewbe will be in the mix, but the fact he was not called up speaks volumes. For Lock, reckon Eben moves to the bench. Mostert wasn't even first choice until injuries, so think this is where the most opportunity for young player's coming through will be. From a leadership perspective, i think Siya and Eben will still be active, but will move to the bomb squad more often to extend careers, meaning Siya possibly takes a vice captain role handing over the reigns to Handre, Marx and Am. Have doubts Siya will be there in 4 years (a lot of competition), but will be happy if he makes it. I'm concerned about 12, 13 and 15. The 12 & 13 combination can make or break your campaign. And at 15 think Le Roux was the better operator before WC. Willemse really lifted at the WC, but still prefer seeing him play at 12 where he really shines. So think we lack a pure 15. Where we also lack depth is in the kicking department. Missed a lot of drop kick attempts in the final. And are missing a long range kicker.

[@webwizes5620]

sacha at 15, long range sorted.

[@user-pd9zu1gc2v]

Im inclined to think that Malcolm Marx currently at 29 yrs of age (providing he recovers sufficiently from his present injury) will remain the 1st choice hooker for the Boks for the 2027 RWC

[@MyCousin82]

Exciting to see the next Etzebeth, PSDT, Marx breaking through. Some guys already putting their hands up big time.

[@JaemanEdwards]

Who's the next Etzebeth ? And there is bound to be a new Kolbe in Africa somewhere too.

[@MyCousin82]

@@JaemanEdwards Well that's the big question. There are some talented young locks but Eben is Eben. I believe there is a good replacement out there... You're right about Kolbe, plenty of exciting backs. I rate this kid called JC Mars very highly

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@MyCousin82 JC Mars ? I'll keep a track of him. Did he play in the U20 World Championships this year ? They had some dangerous backs did the Baby Boks. I thought our NZ boys would play them in the semi finals, but they just missed out. NZ had a great backline as always with a forward pack not matching them as usual.

[@MyCousin82]

@@JaemanEdwards JC Mars is eligible for Baby Boks this year so still a youngster. Same with JF van Heerden, a real prospect at lock but needs to progress through URC etc. first. I was expecting a lot from Salmaan Moerat at lock as a potential Etzebeth replacement but injuries curtailed his progress somewhat

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@MyCousin82 If he's already playing URC he's obviously very good. Will watch him closely at next year's U20 World Championships. Thanks for the heads up. I'm always interested in up and coming potential stars the U20s is such a great comp for future stars. The Irish boys in comments kept going on about their first five already playing for Leicester, but he kicked terribly in the U20 World Championships and his alround play was good, but certainly nothing to write home about. Kept a note on Salman Moerat and JF Van Heerdon too. I appreciate you. I just love these saffa names too. Whether they are afrikaans dutch names, coloured, or native african names, they always sound spectacular.

[@johankotze1622]

Cameron Hanekom,Ruan Venter and Elrig Louw as 6,7,8 Carlu Sadie needs to be brought in now at future tight head.Andre Hugo Venter at 2 ,maybe JJ Van Der Mecht at 4 next to RG

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

Im a huge hugo venter fan he’s underrated by storemers he needs to start, also hatchiva dayamani needs a call up

[@johankotze1622]

@koketsoncongwane1602 I agrees with Dayamani I think he will be a great bomb squad player, they need to work on his work over the ball so he can cover 3x positions in the back of the scrum.

[@danielmacdonald721]

I’d say there’s better young locks than Van der mecht. Look out for Swanepoel, Reinhardt Ludwig and JF van Heerden all bulls locks and all look like they have very high potential

[@johankotze1622]

​@danielmacdonald721 the problem is I don't think they weigh enough, I locks being at least 120kg I might be wrong but if they pick up more bulk let's see.

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

@@johankotze1622 eben is about 115-117, I think the only one of our locks thats over 120 is lood

[@karlernstbuddenbrock371]

Some untested guys should come through. Need to be blooded. Henko van Wyk, sacha Mngomezulu, Hatchiva Dyamani, (returned) Dyanti, Fassi just to mention a few. Perhaps experimental against Portugal. See it as third team Boks.

[@dandreehlers9817]

Fassi😂😂😂that guy should never play for the boks...cant tackle or catch a ball and his positioning is shoking...so many player beter and younger than him

[@presterjohn4123]

In recent times the South African forward pack usually dominate when they field a powerful hooker. John Smit was there as captain but I am thinking more in the line of a Bismarck du Plessis or Malcolm Marx. Apart from scrummaging they were/are a tremendous thorn in the opposition's side at the breakdown. Both du Plessis and Marx are players with God given natural strength deep rooted in their DNA. Marx is still only 29 so I don't see him going anywhere soon but there must be boys coming through in SA similar in physical ability. I go out to South Africa regularly an attend the local school rugby games. The school in question is not a major rugby school but if you were to see the facilities, four secondary pitches and a main pitch with spectator stand and a fully equipped gym/weight room that most UK clubs can only dream of, and a desire of just about every boy at the school to play rugby, I am not overly worried about the Boks. I am more worried about the country. If it goes down and there is no longer a Springbok team, per se, what a tragedy that would be.

[@KarateGucci]

Thanks for the vote of confidence....much appreciated ......not to worry ...we are on a mission from God started with a pact made by Mandela .... it's written in the Numba ONE for all and all for ONE . UBUNTU the gift the gift that never stop giving . We will be OK , no worries, Hakuna Matta mate ...

[@davesmith826]

God doesn't put the lights on - Eskom does!

[@andrewkhonje6935]

The RC is not the PLAN. During those times so many different teams are picked to peak at the right time which is RWC.

[@Forest9528]

With rassie as the head coach im 100% convinced that the boks are already planning (if not already started planning) for the 3 peat

[@JaemanEdwards]

Rassie needs to learn what a rugby pass looks like. He also needs to teach his team where the tryline is situated.

[@Forest9528]

@@JaemanEdwards did bro just try and dunk on the greatest rugby coach ever?

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@Forest9528 Winning a world cup with rugby like that is like scoring an own goal. You won but you still lost.

[@Forest9528]

@@JaemanEdwards I think I had an aneurysm reading that. Legitimately dumbest shit I've ever read

[@ivanmynhardt]

missed Alfred

[@Zion66666]

Why can’t South Africa have a few teams in URC and a few in super rugby? Why the need to choose? We have enough pro teams.

[@JaemanEdwards]

No. Keep your boring rugby in the Northern Hemisphere.

[@Zion66666]

@@JaemanEdwards okay then. 🏆 🏆 🏆 🏆 Those 4 world cups are really dull.

[@JaemanEdwards]

@@Zion66666 Keep your tin arses. The All Blacks will show you how to play rugby with style. Something the Springboks are incapable of. Better you stay with the likes of England. You can copy each others style where you hunt for penalties and cards to win games. We'll hunt tries instead. You NH boys can't play like this.

[@user-xy8dd4ok4z]

Never write off a champion - look at history

[@tylertymchuk9576]

Most of the players will likely play the next World Cup then a lot of them will retire

[@petrusvandermerwe-ln7vs]

kolisi will remain good player political correct on merit earns his place

[@subbie5498]

springboks need to sort out fly half after pollard and libbok theres no fly half in sa good enough its time to blood alot of new players

[@koketsoncongwane1602]

Bro libbok still has two WCs in him pollard has one more they both under 30 theres no stress in that department but , sancha ngomezulu is gonna be the next willimse watch , we need one more wing and a 15

[@Zion66666]

@@koketsoncongwane1602you right about NGZ. Will he play centre of full back tho. Class player

[@wernerswardt7512]

Give Kolisi one more WC, by that time enough payers of color should have come through the system to find our next "Kolisi". We need a strong leader of color in the Springbok team to help pull everyone together and support a national team. It's just reality and the way it is here in SA. After this last WC we had more support from black fans than ever before so we have to embrace that and build on that. One day black supporters will not bother if we have a white or black captain, they will support the Boks whole heartedly. Traditionally black people thought of rugby as a white man sport so they would not support it, but it is slowly turning with more good players of color being represented in the Bok team. Years ago we had a matter of needing to play under performing "quota players" in the Bok team just to make it look more representative but that is not the case anymore, there are so many very good black payers coming through our system. This is just my take on how Rugby SA is going forward

[@tobolee6385]

Are u on drugs ???....best leader becomes the captain...they won 2 world cups without a captain of colour ...

[@tristanmaclennan2989]

Their colour should never matter, only their abiity!

[@rooftile883]

As a Saffa, I don't think winning the Southern Hemisphere Rugby Championship is thát important.

[@subbie5498]

it is thats the only thing to focus on now

[@daronmann7159]

Agreed. Nice if it happens. Couldn't care less if it doesn't. Next World Cup is the prize that matters to us

[@KekeHimona]

I think it’s of huge importance South Africa win Rugby Championship….that would then put a halt to them being called “one trick ponies”. South Africa, for this reason need to be winning tests and championships.

[@wwest4347]

Alfie quite to the point, hooker not a problem at all. World class locks, might be, but really talented youngsters around. Quality might be a bother. Not really concerned. Blessed Christmas.

[@danielmacdonald721]

Nah man some class young locks coming through to keep an eye on at the bulls. Keep an eye on Swanepoel, Reinhardt Ludwig and JF van Heerden

[@michaelmansvelt9843]

I think South Africa and New Zealand will decide playing against Australia and Argentina is a waste of time. South Africa can go on a thee match tour of New Zealand and the other way round the next year

[@tiaanbezuidenhout8131]

They go to the moon. Nothing can stop them

[@danielf4503]

Wessels A HugoVenter jjKotze at least 3 more lined up.Kolisi getting slow and will be replaced by the athletic Etsebeth- a crowd favourite and choreographed brother of Kolisi.5-6 locks to ßlowly introduce- van der Mescht Van Heerden Nortje Rg Snyman and......an older PsdT!Frontrow Sithole Ox Nche Mnuchu and

[@sihlejali8453]

Don’t worry about our Team mate , we’ll be there slapping up your country’s team in Australia like usual 😂👀

[@mvubu6823]

Spend 3 ywara giving hope to the other teams before cleaning up when it counts... AGAIN! 😂😂😂 🏆🏆🏆🏆

[@KarateGucci]

Giving Hope 😂😂😂

[@plutoniumnitrate1201]

3 peat.......no happening.....too many players in their thirties and eztebebth will have too many injuries......if Boks get a similar pool then they won't make it past the quarters

[@Zion66666]

All depends whether Rassie freshens up over the next 2 years.

[@Ballas56]

Rather than speculate, wait and see what Rassie does.