Where Does Civil War Rank in the MCU? (w/ Kevin Smith!) - MOVIE FIGHTS!!

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Kevin Smith (Director), Zack Stentz (Writer, Thor), and Hal Rudnick (ScreenJunkies) debate the following topics with judge Andy Signore (ScreenJunkies) and fact checker Joe Starr (ScreenJunkies) for the week of 5/9/2016:
Pick your FIGHT below! ▼▼
00:06:22 ROUND 1 - Aside from the airport sequence - Favorite Moment from Captain America: Civil War?
00:22:01 ROUND 2 - Least favorite part or character of Captain America: Civil War?
00:42:12 ROUND 3 - Where does Captain America: Civil War rank among all the MCU films to date?
01:01:01 - Pick a Character from Civil War, and pitch us the next ultimate solo film.
01:14:48 - Pitch us your own ultimate team of ANY 4-5 movie characters, that could take out an Avengers team.
01:30:19 SPEED ROUND
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[@bryannepeguero4789]

I don't get the Hal hate.

[@big3cj]

I didn't until I saw the video this week when he ranked the MCU after credit scenes, and said that Captain America: The First Avenger was the worst movie in the MCU! Now, I can't respect his opinion!

[@Daskaar]

agreed

[@KyleGauntReviews]

+Big_Cero That's the most underrated marvel movie

[@JefeTheSituation]

+Big_Cero you the whole screen junkies team make those videos. It isn't solely Hal.

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

+Bryanne Peguero Hal's rants during the second argument was so off, I couldn't believe that he actually had opinions like this. He completely missed the emotional attachment for Peggy's funeral and Vision/ Scarlet's interaction.

[@SpencerP96]

I think the "you don't deserve that shield, my dad made that shield" was the culmination of all the emotions of iron man's emotions about his father since the first iron man. he's been up and down and full of regret and he finally just breaks down and you can tell he just wants his dad.

[@MrJarastamon]

+thekingzepp my favourite scene

[@RaphaelESP1998]

+thekingzepp funny, it was my least favorite part of the movie for me, it was the only thing that i didn't like much but the movie is fuc*ing amazing :D

[@edenjaycollins6055]

Never thought a youtube comment could make me cry, but damn thats made me feel even worse for stark, poor guy...

[@TheWMS20]

maybe its because Cap is using the shield that Howard made to protect the man who killed him?

[@randallewebb]

I agree with you on that scene..... To me that line is the SUMMATION of the Tony Stark character throughout all of these movies going back to the 1st Irom Man movie. I love it because while Tony Stark has developed and even GROWN over the course of the films, the core issues with the character STILL revolve around his father and living under his shadow and seeking his approval. In a sense, Tony Stark's compulsion for everything he does is to prove he is "worthy" to be Howard Stark's son. However, Howard Stark's crowning achievement is the creation of Captain America (and his shield). The irony of it is that no matter how smart or wealthy Tony Stark becomes he will NEVER feel as good/worthy as Steve Rogers. It is a very interesting dynamic because in a sense Tony Stark and Captain America are siblings as they were both CREATED by Howard Stark.

[@ryancoates9223]

Imagine Kevin Smith on a Drunk Moviefights.

[@PolarisCastillo]

YES

[@jaxoncavallier9020]

It would be a word a minute

[@109reaper]

Hahaha exactly what I was thinking XD

[@TheCalvinProblen]

+Billy Sotherden Kevin Smith VS Doug Benson would be epic ha.

[@ther3aper561]

Imagine Kevin Smith on a High Movie Fights

[@wolfhowlin1859]

Eventually they have to add Captain America's line : " We fight" from Civil War to the beginning of every movie fight "fight!" montage!

[@reyskywaka3202]

Yesssss

[@kickass3100]

Yea... they still haven’t done it

[@randomman4797]

Who else thinks movie fights are the best thing from screenjunkies!?

[@randomman4797]

😄

[@henryutecht9025]

Honest trailers

[@Ayvee1138]

@John Utecht Mm.. Not really

[@bebaguette766]

Absolutely 👍

[@user-dn8zu2qo5b]

I honestly enjoy all three shows, but I'd put honest trailers over this because movie fights are either awesome or sucky and there aren't too many bad honest trailers

[@chat427]

i think the best scene was the end with zemo and black panther. it showed that the sokovia incident broke zemo, and took away his reason to live. he wanted to die but he couldn't, not before he made the avengers feel a bit of the pain he felt the day his world ended when when tony created ultron. and the moment he accomplished his plan he felt free to end his life, he had nothing left

[@user-pp2tz9br1g]

agreed

[@blundilemeo9266]

It also shows how black panther wanting to kill his dads killer to saving his life

[@blundilemeo9266]

+Blündi Lemeo *how black panther went from wanting to...

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

+JOTARO KUJO My choice as well, Jojo.

[@The810kid]

+JOTARO KUJO the living are not done with you yet

[@captainawesome830]

How could you not pick the Iron Man and Cap/Bucky fight at the end. It had so much emotional depth. It felt like the whole MCU lead up to it.

[@MrQuelquDeux]

Exactly ! Thank you ! There's everything in that scene : good action, good character development, good pay off after the whole movie, really good character moments, the dialogue is on point, the suspense is present too... Heck, there's even fear in that scene. You fear for your favorite characters demolishing their friendship.

[@batspam1013]

+MrQuelquDeux I felt like if it was a Star Wars movie that it would be the best transition of a hero turning to the Darkside and giving into his anger.

[@mariapapou9059]

I mean, it was such a call-back to the small thin kid from Brooklyn with his fists raised "I can do this all day" to save his bff. That was my favourite moment in the entire movie.

[@MrQuelquDeux]

Bat Spam101 Yes, now that you say it, it does remind me of the end of Return of the Jedi ! I always considered that the fight with Vader was the first step Luke ever made towards the dark side since he needed anger to fight him. Then he controlled himself at the end, but the door is still open. That's why I hope they'll go for a Luke that is unsure of where he stands in the next movies. But back to Marvel, that is indeed a really good comparison.

[@jeebs621]

I think if tony won that fight it would have had a little more emotionality and depth

[@grosiradu]

Zemo for me was a great villain, because he did the most damage to the avengers without throwing a punch.

[@TheJUSTEATMENOW]

If you have not watched Civil War, I would advise you to not watch this Movie Fights.

[@ploxman]

+TheJUSTEATMENOW 634637423598252

[@aryankaushik9346]

Thanks for the warning

[@darseiy7934]

+kuramkarameruk thanx cap

[@karlmuster263]

Round 5 and the Speed Round are Spoiler-Free

[@user-pk5td5oc7w]

+Mine MLG Hawkeye dies. Spoiler

[@robertmcallister4680]

I am sad that no one chose the Dean as their stand alone spin off movie

[@ThePonderer]

Dean Deaning!

[@joeryan7306]

maybe abeds character could be his sidekick

[@IveGotToast]

If only this hoodie were a time hoodie!

[@MJDHX]

+The Ponderer Dean to meet you!

[@ChrosTV]

This comment deserves as much UP-votes as possible!

[@FullmetalAsian]

Iron Man showing up in Russia wasn't luck. Zemo made sure he'd show up by calling the room service lady so she'd find the body and the mask that looks like bucky. it reaches the news and iron man realizes bucky was set up and that cal was telling the truth about the other winter soldiers. also it's not inconceivable that the place where the tape was stored also had a vcr to play it. Zemo was a vital character as he raised the conflict over and over. the initial conflict is the base for the fight but Tony and cap don't really want to fight. yet Zemo kept adding fuel to the fire. the bombing then activating the winter soldier and essentially causing the airport sequence as cap and bucky just wanted to go stop Zemo and iron man just wanted to keep the avengers together. then he shows iron man the video of bucky killing his parents and finally snaps when he finds out cap knew. this why Zemo works and Lex doesnt. Lex tried to pit them against each other but eded up forcing superman by capturing hs mother

[@thu6muff1n]

+Nate Robinson You deserve all the likes

[@Wahoowa01]

I realized this, too (on my 3rd viewing)! Despite the conflicts with Cap, there was no way that Iron Man would just ignore that planted information in the room. He was going to respond, most likely by finding Cap and joining in whatever fight they encountered.

[@D3D3D]

+Nate Robinson mostly agree with you, especially the part that Zemo works betther than Luthor. However, how did Zemo knew Ironman would know where to go? Tony had to ask falcon about the place in order to reach cap, that's something Zemo couldn't have manipualted.

[@Wahoowa01]

+danyalillo Good point--but it's not completely implausible that Tony could figure out how to find them (as some have suggested).

[@Willowy13]

That is why Zemo as brilliant. I like he is alive.

[@crazyramblingman168]

have black widow track down and bring in john bernthal's punisher

[@Geoblix]

That would be epic

[@ProfessorChaos56]

+Bruce Wayne Perfect movie right there.

[@dhirensukhan4592]

You just blew my mind, because I feel black window standalone movie wouldn't be all that great because of the major risk of just indirectly making a boring spy type movie, but with your idea that would be absolutely perfect for her movie

[@ProfessorChaos56]

Samur/Aye Studios That's the point, proof that it works.

[@ProfessorChaos56]

+Samur/Aye Studios You completely right, we were just saying they should do that. I never said that anything you mentioned wasn't the case, I'm just saying I wish it wasn't.

[@Rein6teins]

we need a title fight with Kevin Smith vs Max Landis vs Dan

[@Exogenesys]

Awww, that Keanu team was gold! it had my vote, haha

[@ricois3]

+Exogenesys - He should have also included Keanu the cat.

[@Exogenesys]

hahaha, yes!

[@tjbalous5392]

He forgot Constantine

[@darkcarolineriddle]

I still don't understand this: "they could have made this movie without Zemo". He is the reason why the fighting happened. If the UN attack wasn't blamed on Bucky no one would have been looking for him, Steve would have never gone all rogue about it. T’challa wouldn’t have been trying to kill bucky. Like, literally everything going to shit it’s because of Zemo.

[@KINGKROSBYSKINGDOM]

exactly your both smart and beautiful

[@Jacob-ec1qz]

+Sasori Man If you're not going to bring something new to the table, why do it at all...?

[@Jacob-ec1qz]

***** I was just....Forget it Smh...

[@trafalgusapple6948]

Gal Gadot is Israeli/Southern Greek.

[@imbatmanhi3363]

which is why black panther confronting zemo is my fave part in the movie.

[@mitchlmitten5874]

I loved Civil War, but having War Machine get killed instead of injured would've added so much more emotional tension. To me, that was the worst part. That tin can should've kicked the bucket.

[@creativecookbook]

totally agree. the only deads were all fatherly figures: Zeemo's dad, Cpt America's dad, black panther's dad, Uncle ben's death,etc haha

[@mitchlmitten5874]

Utkarsh Pandey Here's a fun game: Name the Avenger with living parents! (it doesn't count if we never see them)

[@creativecookbook]

Mitch L hmmm...hmmm..What about Vision who is the product of Thor and Iron man or Scarlet Witch whose fatherly figure is Gawk Eye?

[@mitchlmitten5874]

Utkarsh Pandey Never thought about Vision. I guess that counts.

[@robfisk6319]

In the comics Rhodes died in civil war two (which is Iron Man's main motivation tbh) so if they ever do that he probably will

[@WongBal]

“We’re taking the airport scene off the table” *immediately lets Kevin Smith use part of the airport scene*

[@Moonboy123456789]

I was thinking the exact same thing.

[@HSGAutomotive]

The great thing about Agent Carters death was what it meant for Cap. Not only did he love her, but her death also moved Bucky into the position of being his only surviving friend from the old days, which perfectly hinges into him being determined to save him.

[@saberrattler1413]

This is one of the best movie fights ever. How am I just now watching this? The moment Kevin Smith compares Vision to an fresh out the box Bilbo is pure comic gold. Its simple but I lost it so funny.

[@alialmuhanna4938]

Before getting into the Movie Fight, I just saw Cap 3; I used to call this movie a Civil Disturbance, but now I have to admit, it is a Civil War. It's even better than Iron Man 1 ! Well done Marvel 👏🏻 Now, Round 1: SPOILERS !!!!! Tony finding out Bucky killed his parents & the fight that follows; I think for me it's better than the airport scene. It's personal, it's emotional, the drive is understood on a primal level. Downey's best acting since Iron Man 1.

[@alialmuhanna4938]

Round 2: I didn't care much for Bucky, but other than that what bothered me most is 1- the fact that the UN has funds to make The Raft prison in the middle of the ocean, but they didn't solve global hunger or help the poor countries of the world. 2- Tony seems to have limitless wealth; no person or entity on Earth is that rich. 3- Zimo seems to have knowledge of things that he couldn't have, like who killed Tony's parents, or who was going to evaluate Bucky when he was captured, or where they were gonna take Bucky in Germany. This is the moment I choose.

[@alialmuhanna4938]

+John Doe Round 3: My rank of MCU movies: Number 1: Civil War Number 2: Iron Man 1 Number 3: Ant Man (I watched it 2 weeks ago for the first time, and it was a lot of fun) The rest is not so good; I'll say it again, Iron Man 3 was GARBAGE. The reason for the above is because the movies refused to take their consequences seriously, only Iron Man 1 & Civil War did it, Ant Man was simply more fun that the rest of the MCU movies.

[@alialmuhanna4938]

+John Doe Round 4: Hal's had pretty good setup, and it sort of makes sense, but as Kevin points out, War Machine is basically Black Iron Man, though I do think the idea of him being in the suit after Civil War could be promising. But the character that deserves a movie more than the rest is Black Widow, and we could go into a Bourne type of spy movie, and team her up with / pit her against Punisher !

[@zaphero5518]

+John Doe Zimo said he decrypted the released Hydra files and found out that info.

[@BillyBob-tk3ni]

+John Doe Tony stark is based on Howard Hughes he had limitless wealth.

[@TheMorbidHobo]

Personally I enjoyed when we found out the the "villian" wasn't some crazy superhero with some plot to take over the world, he was just a guy that purposely pinned the avengers against eachother because he hated them.

[@honoramongscars649]

Seriously? No mention of the final fight scene with Captain America, Winter Soldier, and Iron Man?

[@IveGotToast]

The coolest action sequence in the entire movie was when Cap and Bucky were beating down on Tony hardcore style. but that was spoiled in the trailer.

[@honoramongscars649]

IveGotToast But the reason why wasn't.

[@SkywalkerG1o]

Please bring Marc Bernardin on movie fights!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@fafofafin]

"They're on a break!" That friends reference from Zack was gold.16:24

[@TheRowlandstone73]

22:31 "And the second time I saw it with my wife." Ok, I was NOT expecting that..

[@brutalitops5876]

+Martin Brody LOLOL me either

[@TheRowlandstone73]

Peter Regan Oh, FFS, turn it up. It's not like I was demeaning him or anything. He's a big boy, I'm sure he'd see the funny side.

[@TheRowlandstone73]

Peter Regan At least we can agree on that.

[@redgordo9058]

i think the end fight is best in part of the movie

[@redgordo9058]

charles campbell hahahahah

[@decenthumans]

+Nick Snyder Agreed. The rest gets really long

[@edenjaycollins6055]

Same, thats what I would have argued for

[@zaphero5518]

That fight carries simply incredible weight.

[@maxbreiling4929]

My easily favorite moment is when Zemo talks about his backstory while black panther sneaks up on him. It was perfect it made me realize that Zemo was just a man who's life was ruined by the uncaring God's. He was the statistic and he vowed revenge for that. His whole empire crumbling thing just gave me chills. That was hands down my favorite moment and probably made Zemo my fav villain

[@6661313]

kevin's choice was part of the airport scene

[@artietheonemanparty]

but he's KEVIN SMITH

[@SwipeSide19]

was thinking the same

[@shockwaverules1]

He meant the airport scene as a whole. He chose a specific portion

[@6661313]

Muhammad Amjad it was still part of it, that's like if they said best action scene that was not the highway chase, and he said "the part of the highway chase where bucky got on the bike" it's a fragment of the larger scene but still a part of it

[@taz4382]

Kevin smith and Zack stenz's episode of The Flash was absolutely awesome. Wanna see more, Kudos to you guys. 👍

[@GuyWithAnAmazingHat]

+Tazz It was the best episode of a spectacular season so far.

[@taz4382]

GuyWithAnAmazingHat I wouldn't say it was the best episode but definitely one of the highlights in this show.

[@kalysin2632]

2nd best for me th 1st best one was when zoom beat the living shit outta Barry and it ended with him saying he couldn't feel his legs

[@joshuaetchison4908]

+Tazz I think it was the best. I loved it so much (and I've watched every episode since the beginning).

[@euphan123]

What episode was it?

[@StolenPvP]

Yes! Kevin smith brings it every time

[@ploxman]

+Stolen. 253525237528352253

[@mollyzhou8359]

My favorite sequence is when cap says "I can do this all day." Straight went back to Cap1 and got me teary... That's the line that reminds me this is a LEGIT Captain America movie..

[@tatjy93]

Iron Man 3 over civil war??!! Puh-leeease

[@Dani-cf2jj]

+868tatj wtf? aha

[@Dani-cf2jj]

+Tiago Cunha not even close

[@LegendInTheEndzzz]

dashie?!!

[@zarikrobertson8076]

I love iron man 3 but civil war is in its own class when it comes to marvel movies

[@trafalgusapple6948]

TDK.

[@randomman4797]

Am I the only one who actually likes Hal?

[@randomman4797]

😄

[@jigglywiggly6479]

+Random vids Yup. The Only 1

[@DaciYT]

+Random vids Nope, he cracks me up all the time.

[@zullka1232]

+Random vids no, you're not :3

[@Caleb904]

No, Hal is my favorite at screen junkies

[@puki140]

I would like to see Kevin as a judge someday

[@puki140]

Kevin Vindel- Castillo Idk if they will ever change the judge but it would be nice to see different guest judges more often

[@johnpalacios9392]

+puki140 I hope Screen Junkies does a tournament of judges, where both fighters, and fans can vote on who the best judge is.

[@Rav3nCain]

I completely disagree with the idea that Iron Man and Captain America are on the wrong sides of the registration. Captain America grew up in a time where good people were registered, then died. And Iron Man grew up in a time where weapons weren't regulated well enough and good people died. They both have great reasons to believe in what they believe in.

[@terryfeynman]

Yea but come on captain was always the "help the country good or bad" guy while Stark was always the "I make my own rules, and nobody tells me what to do " guy, this was also what did not work for me in that movie.

[@IperialAndroid]

@@terryfeynman but they changed throughout multiple movies.

[@darenbarritt8682]

I love Kevin Smith, I subscribe to his youtube channel, smodcast, AMC's Comic Book Men and most of his movies I have seen. But Lord almighty does Kevin love to speak. His answers are longer then Hal and Zacks combined.

[@gdxgames-geometrydash7479]

Not my favourite, but one of my favourite scenes is when Zemo talks with T'Challa about what happened to his family and why he wants the Avengers to fight, it felt a lot like the graveyard scene with Punisher, and made Zemo's character so much better, because once his family died, he, this ordinary guy, was able to bring down a team of superheroes. A lot of people don't like him as a villain, but I think he was fantastic.

[@BoxingWave]

#1 ahead of Avengers

[@ploxman]

+BoxingWave 7890258216927802525

[@ploxman]

***** 8970235235532

[@ploxman]

***** 98726259685

[@carlzabel8]

+plox 18284773739291026453586253103748

[@ploxman]

Wiiu Wombat 9872956362858953298532352

[@RatelHBadger]

20:20 - Andy: Thats a big hammer Kevin: That's what she said

[@TheCyberNerds]

Gotta love these guys! Always a good laugh with them..

[@stefanfilipovits9221]

Question for next week: what's the biggest "holy crap, I need a shower!" Movie of all time?

[@louiemapa]

+Stefan Filipovits se7en

[@jedsithor]

+Stefan Filipovits Oldboy

[@ElixirChallenge]

batman and Robin

[@eltontaylor162]

A Serbian Film

[@ImLewisPatrick]

fight club.

[@RedThorn]

Can't believe nobody picked the final battle between Cap, IM, and WS. Personally, I thought that end battle was way better than the airport battle because it had the emotional punch to it vs. just the fun spectacle of the airport fight. Best part of the movie IMO.

[@roblynch2810]

i know right it was brutal

[@rohanshirumalla626]

Kevin smith here was ultimate marvel fanboy mode

[@runningsuperska]

I agree about the apartment scene. When he chucks that guy over the railings and cap says "come on man." is great

[@dimavasilev5342]

I swear, I love Kevin more every time he's on. He'd be an awesome guy to get a beer with.

[@satyamkamboj5330]

@ Kevin Smith hey man! last episode of The Flash was the best one to date... Loved it and you totally nailed it! wish you directed more episodes

[@joshuavarghese7166]

agreed

[@safenafe]

sit barry sit!

[@KouD3Graw]

+satyam kamboj He didn't write it but, a bad director could have fucked up a good script. :3 Glad he trusted what they had there.

[@Clesterist]

+John Dwyer Hes great but I dont if anyone is good enough to save that show

[@willows861]

Even better, Zack Stentz (the other guy here) wrote that episode! Yeah, defo one of the best.

[@carelesswhispersasmr]

Hal makes soooooo many good points but god his voice...

[@jjonjjoe]

Haha, I see what you mean

[@madnutrules]

take a shot everytime hal saids um.

[@caashmoney6280]

1. Cap saying that he did know about Howard 2. Zemo explaining that he killed the other 'winter soldiers' 3. second place behind winter soldier. guardians being third 4. black widow feat. hawk eye and winter soldier 5. Optimus Prime, Superman, Darth Vader, Raden, and Master Chief

[@UsmanAli-xz4ic]

24:42 what is the guy in glasses doing

[@redpandarampage2191]

lol

[@Mr3Machine]

+usman ali Reacting to Kevin's joke.

[@BurningAshesProductions]

1. The Avengers 2. Captain America: The Winter Soldier 3. Captain America: Civil War

[@BrynjarReynisson]

RB3!

[@nathansmalle7054]

+Robert Butler word up rb3

[@user-fz9vk4js5l]

1. Civil war 2gotg 3the avengers

[@THEremiXFACTOR]

Kevin Smith seems to love most the movie he most recently saw

[@iammclovin9064]

Zemo was an incredible villan. Exceptional acting

[@Phornax7]

Also check out Kevin Smith's podcast Hollywood Babble On.

[@Daskaar]

yaaas bitch!

[@aarongutierrez7705]

Average white girl alert ^

[@naehafgh]

+Brad King But they diden even put his youtube as they said they would

[@theoxbellows]

See Kevin Smith and his co-host, Ralph Garman: The Man of 5 Impressions

[@aaronalexanderortizsantos3585]

+cubbex racists alert

[@RicardoSegarra]

Favorite moment was when Tony finds out that Bucky murdered his parents leading to the first real life and death fight between Iron Man and Bucky and Cap. The look on Tony's face when he asked cap if he knew and hearing cap say yes spoke volumes.

[@logarugamon2645]

Am I the only one who really wants to see this War Machine movie?

[@Shane_The_Confessor]

Great video, guys. loved it.

[@thedanajamesjones]

Has anyone ever edited together a montage of Hal's heavy inhales?

[@agaz2272]

civil war winter soldier avengers guardians ironman antman first avenger thor incredible hulk ironman 2 ironman 3 thor 2

[@hayleys4627]

Perfect!

[@evangelos7151]

you didn't even include all the movies. you might of forget but this is the 3rd captian america movie.

[@agaz2272]

Evan Matney i dont understanf

[@evangelos7151]

+the batman nvm but what do you have against iron man 3

[@agaz2272]

Evan Matney i like it but the twist dissapointed me. Its very enjoyable tho. There are parts i loved. Just the twist when we discovered its the fake mandarin annoyed me

[@freeworldsrp160]

IT horrifies me that anyone can pick iron man 3 as anything but the very worst of the lot. And that guy flagging 'racist stereotype' needs to get a grip.

[@KyleGauntReviews]

Absolutely agree!! I HATE that movie

[@TheMoviePlanet]

+FreeWorlds RP BE horrified then, it's arguably the very best of the lot.

[@everythingshiny]

+FreeWorlds RP I HATED Iron Man 3 the first time I saw it. It was the first Iron Man movie I'd seen, so I just decided tonight that now that I have seen the first one (I started IM2 and gave up quickly) I would watch it again and see if I liked it more. Nope. Still hate it.

[@ProfessorChaos56]

+FreeWorlds RP Here are the pros and cons to Iron Man 3: Pros: Robert Downey Jr's performance Cons: Everything else

[@KyleGauntReviews]

+Professor chaos56 Hahahaha!!! That's perfect

[@BenCulture]

A lot of my favorite moments aren't action moments: How about when Steve says to Scott Lang, "We're working outside the law on this one." That one line demonstrates just how good Chris Evans is, because if he delivered that line to _me,_ that way, I'd be like "Yes sir, Captain! Which laws do I break, and how soon?" I mean it. Not just any actor can make that work. He's using his whole body when he delivers that line. Someday Chris Evans will be known as more than just a competent action/adventure star.

[@cfscorpio]

Hmmm, best Civil War moment outside of the airport scene? For me, probably from "I don't care, he killed my mom" to (not sure if exact quote) "My father made that shield, it doesn't belong to you" then Cap drops the shield.

[@itamarlevy9]

"Son of a bitch killed my mom"

[@lulululul22]

I cried so much during that scene...

[@TheShadowKiller97]

Team that will defeat the Avengers: 1.- Dr. Manhattan 2.- Do I need more?

[@aaronalexanderortizsantos3585]

I know Manhattan Sentry The flash Goku and superman

[@erboch7124]

Saitama

[@nathanwildey4134]

Dr Manhattan, Cosmo the dog, spike from gremlins, Lt. Col. Bill Cage from edge of tomorrow and just encase the alien playing marbles with the universe in man in black

[@ricardo7017gbp]

+TheShadowKiller97 I'd get Darth Vader, Optimus Prime, Predator and Godzilla

[@TheShadowKiller97]

Aaron Alexander sentry isn't in a movie. Movie Goku is a bitch (DBE). The flash is.... a cameo?

[@Taoscape]

Really? No one called the random security camera on that lone road in the woods as the worst scene? I mean the Winter Soldier being caught on camera was pivotal to this movie, yet there is no reason for a camera to be up in the trees 'coincidentally' right where the crash was. Further, he does the classic cliche of shooting the camera out after he already did everything on tape.

[@p0mathix]

finally someone said it!!

[@Taoscape]

+p0mathix I am shocked that only one other person called it out!

[@richarduberton4489]

Have you ever seen a sequel before? Pretty much every sequel ever that has references to the original either has pictures, news reports, or random videos that are shot from impossible angles because they are recycled from earlier movies. It is hard to fault that that camera is out of place, because there are so many other examples of it throughout the MCU and other franchises that it is just commonplace now. Basiclly, if the location of the camera bothers you, you are focusing too much on one scene.

[@Taoscape]

"Focusing too much on the scene" is usually the way I go. I think it was 'tolerable" until the cliche shoot the camera bit, which put it way over the top. Even then it would have been excusable had it not been THE scene to bind the entire story line together.

[@richarduberton4489]

Earlier in the movie, Ross showed them a series of clips with impossible angles. It doesn't seem any different than that, but you seem to be more angry about the idea there could be a camera by where he ambushed Howard Stark. It was in hydras files, and Bucky did set up the ambush, so for all we know he could have recorded it on purpose. much more believable than the other scene.

[@meepmeepimajeep]

This is one of the best funniest movie fights so far. I absolutely love the combination Kevin Smith and Zack Stentz! All went very smooth, no insane yelling and interrupting (the most annoying part of the movie fights). Just pure awesomeness

[@meepmeepimajeep]

I don't like Hall, he yells to much and interrupts to much

[@madnutrules]

+H Batenburg i really hate hal. hes basically jar jar binks

[@michaelmordecai7889]

Pilox Planet you can't hate him, you don't know him.

[@meganrademan9387]

Black widow movie with Winter soldier and Hawkeye would be amazing

[@carloswachuwa13]

The whole "Zemo isn't necessary" argument makes no sense at Alex Without him: Bucky is never framed. Cap never becomes a criminal. Bucky never escapes the government. The airport scene never happens since the only reason Cap's Team fights Iron Man's Team is to protect Bucky and get Zemo. Black Panther's storyline is never resolved. Cap, Tony and Bucky never duke it out at the end. Zemo is super necessary, without him there is no movie. All that would happen would be Cap retiring and the rest of the Avengers working for the government. TA-DA, there's your Zemo-less movie.

[@williamjones7751]

What this guy said

[@andreisidro6544]

WOW Major kudos for the Suicidal Tendencies reference! Wasn't expecting that!

[@ricois3]

Best moment : The "guy approbation nod" after Cap kisses that Carter agent.

[@Maximillionaire666]

When we going to get the Smith/Landis/Murrell fight for the belt?

[@close2001]

Throw in Elijah wood, too

[@193sora193]

civil war is the best movie in MCU imo

[@GaaabeM]

Kevin is too good for everyone. He could gotten every single point in this. Even in his previous fights too. CMON ANDY! Pit him against Dan already.

[@GaaabeM]

could've*

[@GaaabeM]

+trent willams Should've been clear. I meant face Dan for the title.

[@MsSHINeeTVXQSuju]

i thoroughly enjoyed having these 3 as the competitors XD DO IT AGAIN!!!

[@ValpasKankaristo]

The final fight > The airport fight

[@Monkcare]

I think Hal is really wrong on Agent Carter's death, that scene makes Bucky the only one who actually knew captain america in the past, only one who knew who he really was, not captain america, but Steve Rogers, giving cap. another reason to want to side with Bucky and not the avengers ... bucky is basically his last living actual family, the avengers are just friends.

[@iamtheesuprememoosie]

Kevin low-key predicted Wanda and Vision's relationship popularity amongst fans, lol Kevin deserves a tiny credit for WandaVision 😂

[@firefly4f4]

I was with Zack on the ordering -- I had the same top 3 just in a different order -- but then he threw in Iron-Man 3 (I had Avengers at #4). Iron-Man 3 was enjoyable for me, but the Killian was a HORRIBLE villain, and that it was at Christmas when the movie was released in the late spring was just odd. Two things that could have fixed my major issues with Iron-Man 3: 1) Set it at Pepper's birthday. That brings it full circle with the first film, and still leaves the motivations for the presents. 2) Get rid of Killian's character and fold his actions into Maya -- make HER the main villain. I don't CARE about some guy who got stood up at a new year's eve party -- he's just a douche. However, someone who essentially not only got dumped by Tony but ALSO had her idea overlooked? There's a reason for revenge. It also makes the love triangle thing make far more sense, makes her character actually useful, and brings it more in-line with the Extremis story arc (where Killian dies early on and SHE lives through the entire thing).

[@jordonfoss1022]

+firefly4f4 Great ideas, man. What about Mandarin though? Keep the Trevor twist or make him the genuine Mandarin?

[@firefly4f4]

I honestly am probably in the minority, but I kind of liked the twist. It made sense as a twisted way to cover up the malfunctions. It's also redeemed a bit by the "Hail to the King" one shot. Oh, one other thing I'd change: everyone already knows where Tony lives. How hard is it to miss the big house on the cliff? I mean, he throws house parties in the armour there!. Just have him announce he'll be going after the Mandarin. Don't bother giving the address as that's completely redundant.

[@calumbourne3532]

But the plot of iron man 3 was shit

[@DuelaDent52]

I could be very much mistaken, but I remember reading that she actually was supposed to be the main villain but she was scrapped because, like Black Widow, she apparently wouldn't have sold enough toys.

[@firefly4f4]

*googles* I see that story kicking off from an interview with Black about mid-May 2016. I've been saying since shortly after watching the film it would have made more sense if Maya was the villain, and now I feel vindicated.

[@DeltaArise]

My fav moment was just every time T'challa spoke tbh, like you get the sense of royalty and superiority every scene he was in. Just in the way he spoke to Captain America, "Move captain, I will not ask again", I just loved him like this character who knows his worth and doesn't care that these guys are the avengers I just though he was great. But i digress ahah my fav moment was when T'challa explains who he was to bucky and cap and ends of saying "I ask you as warrior and as king, how long do you think u can keep your friend safe from me" I loved this guy soon as he said that..

[@il100374]

No specific order, obviously the best Marvel movies - Iron Man - The Avengers - The Winter Soldier - Guardians of the Galaxy - Civil War

[@MichaelBrown-rg8oi]

Ant-Man, Spiderman 1&2?, X-men 1&2?... I know that fox distributes them but they both still work through some of the same people so therefore they are all still Marvel

[@il100374]

Michael Brown You can make your own list. Ant-Man is overrated

[@jakeboos9860]

+il100374 Antman was great it was so different than all the other marvel films and you could feel edgar wrights style seeping through

[@il100374]

Jake Boos If you say so. The comedy fell super flat for me

[@jakeboos9860]

+il100374 Comedy is really subjective. Although you can't really say it's overrated. I personally loved it but it's not really brought into most conversations about the best MCU films.

[@ValentineLissar]

GUYS, YOU ALL BOMBED THE STANDALONE MOVIE question.I want to see a Winter Soldier solo movie...or a Bucky Barnes and Sam Wilson buddy roadtrip movie.

[@nathanfreeman681]

Well, now you’re getting a Bucky/Sam buddy series. So you’re in luck!

[@ladymcphee]

Awesome show! I stayed throughout the entire thing, its fun to watch you guys. Sidenote: Everytime Hal talks, an image of Sheldon pops in my head. The way he takes deeep breaths every now and then lol

[@9JackR6]

If Hal would have said Nick Fury and not War machine I'd of been totally on board.

[@ejromm]

+Jack Roberts nick fury wasn't in Civil War

[@AMDERS17]

Surprised nobody picked the [SPOILER] scene where Tony sees his parents being killed and then turns to cap, "did you know?"

[@gonzaloolguin5980]

I think thats because Andy tells the fighters beforehand not to pick the most obvious choices. I mean, it happens almost all the time minus the early movie fights.

[@100Hasake]

I love how the legendary superheroes are in the thumbnail up there with Kevin Smith. Pretty accurate

[@seadnamaccasarlaigh279]

I want these guys to come back, rewatch their arguments etc and then do an Endgame version of this episode.

[@nathanfreeman681]

I want them to do it again after Hal watches 5 or 6 episodes of Wandavision.

[@Hrvo182]

Damn, Kevin Smith is pretty good at these.

[@NegroTarantino]

The realest moment in Civil War was when both guys from New York couldn't wait to let everyone know they're from New York.

[@WheatY0]

taking jokes from other people must be fun

[@NegroTarantino]

Ghostface I bet you can only trace this joke back to Civil War when in reality it's a old joke from the 90s and i bet you don't know who made it up. So trying to be witty when you're actually clueless must be fun.

[@WheatY0]

+Negro Tarantino still applying it to civil war and wording it literally the exact same as multiple memes i've seen is taking a joke lmao

[@NegroTarantino]

Ghostface Yeah you don't know it and trying to save face haha sucks to be you. The best part is you laughing at your own ignorance.

[@tobler17]

I love Kevin Smiths smiles throughout the fight. that guy can make me laugh without saying a word.

[@HellspawnPaintedStone]

I'm super late to see this video, and this series, but I'm compelled to comment: I used to hate Movie Fights, but after binge-watching a ton of them (I have many more to watch), I've fallen in love with the format and execution of this show and I highly admire the effort Screen Junkies put into it. I love Hal Rudnick (I'm so sorry for ever doubting you), I adore Dan and Andy, and I always enjoy seeing Kevin Smith in anything. You guy really deserve a pat on the back. I'll see you all in the comments of the newest episodes, for sure. :)

[@SkywalkerG1o]

Imagine Max Landis thrown there too 3 screen writer fight :

[@ElixirChallenge]

that would be great

[@ENVDTV]

Kevin smith vs Chris stuckmann would be great to watch

[@jjonjjoe]

Kevin Smith needs to be on this show as much as possible :)

[@josephmiller3452]

I miss movie fights and the screen junkie show so much😔

[@JoelJoel321]

Marc Andreyko has a very convincing Kevin Smith costume.

[@FeatheredCrow]

"There's a lack of good marvel villains. I mean, we got Loki--" "You're welcome."

[@ryanhubbard1590]

kingpin

[@ryanhubbard1590]

+Darth Ren daredevil is

[@phlaelym]

The end of the last fight when a bloodied, beat-up Cap stands up, raises his fists and says "I can do this all day" was my favorite scene. That scene was a mirror of the scene from the first Captain America movie when the still scrawny Steve Rogers was fighting the bully in the alley; he said "I can do this all day" in that scene as well. Also that scene was taken right from the comic, which was extra cool.

[@loodaangel]

The most fun I've ever had while watching Movie Fights!

[@markkostecki4558]

Who else votes to have Cap's "we fight" line in their intro

[@michaelhudson3737]

can't agree more with Zack Stentz in round 3

[@teddybeddy123]

Cap and Bucky vs Iron Man at the end, the emotions driving that visceral fight scene, it is second to none. The Russo brothers are masters at their craft.

[@iwinatlife18]

Imagine Hal's pitch for a War Machine solo film but replace him with Hawkeye. Now that's something I'd see.

[@amybrown1823]

James Chapman Yes!!

[@odiedodieuk]

James Chapman I love you ;)