Where is the Man Jesus in John 1?

Some Biblical Unitarians (believers in the One God, the Father), don’t see the man Jesus in the first verses of John’s Gospel. Instead, they understand the “Word/Logos” as an abstract plan, design, promise or wisdom that is only personified (described as if it were a person).
Trinitarian “diety-of-christ” and “Arian” believers likewise don’t see the human person, the human being Jesus of Nazareth in the first verses of John’s Gospel. They see only a “divine being/person who became flesh” - but this podcast is not directed toward them. They have bigger problems.
This podcast should challenge believers in One God, the Father, to see that the “personified plan, purpose, wisdom” interpretation of John’s Prologue falls short.
I asked fourteen One God, the Father believers who have lectured or written about their abstract personification interpretation of John’s Prologue, this question:
“At what place in John 1 do you first see the man Christ Jesus of Nazareth or his ministry, either metaphorically or literally, being the subject?“
Their answers should be enlightening.
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Whittaker, H.A. Studies in the Gospels
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[@elimason7954]

On John 1:1 Barcly says: "When Greek speaks about God, it does not simply say 'theos', it says 'ho theos'. Now when Greek does not use the definite article (ho), the noun theos becomes more like an adjective. John did not say that the word was 'ho theos', that would have been to say that the word was identical with God. When John said the word was God, he was not saying that Jesus was identical with God. He was saying that Jesus was so perfectly the same as God in mind, heart and being that in him we perfectly see what God is like." (William Barclay. The Gospel of John. The New Daily Study Bible)

[@billschlegel1]

I think it is about 20% of the time in the Gospel of John that God is the referent to theos, without the definite article. There might be one time where "god" in John's Gospel doesn't mean the Father, and that is in the mouths of Jesus' doubters (10:33). I think "God" in 1:1c means the Father, and the "indirectness", not non-one-to-one-equivalent that folks like Barclay see, is because the man Jesus WAS God at work. "When you see me, you see the Father...the Father is at work in me".

[@choicegospelnetwork]

DOES the Bible begin with John. ? Matthew Mark and Luke already gave us the enough collaborative information that paint a very simple explanation of everything 👏. Why do we now think that John is bringing or revealing some deep mystery 🤔.? Didn't God SPOKE EVERYTHING INTO EXISTENCE ? Isn't God's word alive ? Did God Jesus the world into existence?

[@Mckaule]

We must not forget that it was Father alongside Jesus. Father doing His work through Jesus, not Jesus doings his work through Jesus. So the light which was coming into the world is the Father. Jesus is the light of the world because he did what he saw Father doing. Father is the light of the world, Jesus is the light of the world because he's in the Father and Father is in him, and the same is spoken about believers "you are the light of the world". Jesus accepted/received the Word of the Father and decided to walk after it. Father's Word contains His will, character, and who He is. The Word became flesh because Jesus did the Word and it was awesome to those who have seen Jesus doing all the works he did and all the words he have spoken. They have seen the glory of the firstborn son of God in whom the Word of God was performed perfectly. Flesh as I know also means material in a sense that something is visible and touchable. If I express an idea/concept with my body or make a real thing - I make it possible for others to see and touch an idea. We know what anger is because we've seen others expres it and we ourselves can express it. Anger can be made flesh. If we expres God's word, then it is made flesh. 1Jn 1:2: "the life was made manifest, and we saw it, and testify to it, and proclaim to you the eternal life which was with the Father and was made manifest to us -" (sorry for my English, I hope you grabbed my idea)

[@billschlegel1]

Thanks for the comment. I agree that "God is light" and that yes, the source of the light in Jesus is God (the Father, the only true God). But I don't think that is what John's first verses are necessarily saying/emphasizing. I understand that in Jesus was life (again, because and through the Father), and that life (of Jesus) is the light for mankind. The resurrection life that became light was not the Father. The Father did not die nor was he resurrected. That life and light is in Jesus, the human person, the Son of God.

[@Mckaule]

It was just my spontaneous thoughts for an open discussion. We need to dwell on these verses more and I think revelation comes only by following the same steps Jesus walked. I'm certain that: John 1:10: "He was in the world, and the world was made through him, yet the WORLD KNEW HIM NOT." is speaking about the Father. It's obvious because of this verse: John 17:25: "O righteous Father, the WORLD HAS NOT KNOWN THEE, BUT I HAVE KNOWN THEE; and these know that thou hast sent me." Do you see the correlation ? So it's obvious that FATHER is that Word, and Jesus have known this WORD mentioned in first chapter of John. GOD cannot be contained even by all creation. So it's only a little peace of true essence of God which is expressed in His Word. Jesus is the Word in a sense that he gives life to the world but not all creation, only to the fallen world/system of men which if accepts testimony of GOD about His Son only then receives life. If people don't accept Jesus they stay spiritually dead. So Jesus is the cause through whom God's life begins to flow through people, because through Jesus and all what he did and have spoken they believed that God is truly real and that HE IS. What God wanted is to return man to Himself, from an unbeliever to believer and He did it through Jesus. That's all. One more spontaneous rant. I like to do it with my wife, when we discuss in such a manner/spirit.

[@choicegospelnetwork]

I believe John 1 is an abriviation of the Bible from Genesis to the introduction of Jesus Christ and the one who is Greater than Moses..BECAUSE John concluded John by saying all these were written that you may know that Jesus Christ is the SON of God.. Think about it 🤔,

[@billschlegel1]

I agree that a main thrust of the Gospel of John is to show that Jesus is like, but greater than Moses. We have the comparison stated pointedly in 1:18. I don't think John 1:1 beginning is the Genesis beginning. There are other new beginnings in the Bible. If we think of Moses, Israel's beginning as a nation comes through him. Cf. the pulling back of waters and dry land of both Genesis and Exodus. Israel's beginning is a new beginning, done by God, through Moses.

[@petromax4849]

Your point about Jesus calling himself the light is very persuasive. Apart from that context, I'd think "the word" refers to the message instead of the messenger. I don't think it makes sense to say that if Jesus is a man he couldn't have been something else before, because that assumes too much certainty about how reality works. A better reason for doubting pre-existence is the weakness of evidence for it. Taking "in the beginning" as a reference to Genesis 1, sounds very much like taking "I am" as reference to Exodus 3.

[@paulmussell9036]

Great stuff. I always appreciate your content, but I especially like the engagement with other views. In my opinion, difficult texts like John 1 must have some inherent ambiguities to produce the wide variety of options about it, but John probably had a particular set of ideas in mind that he wanted to communicate. So, while I don't think John 1 is a good passage to base our primary theology on because of the ambiguities, I do think it is worth taking time to consider what it does say and try to get to the bottom of it for at least a couple reasons. Like you said in the video, we need to be able to give a good alternate explanation for these verses because they are some of the popular ones for trinitarians and others with mistaken theologies to cite. If we fail to offer a reasonable alternate way of thinking about their favorite verses we are unlikely to persuade them with the verses we normally cite. Sometimes there are important truths that can be useful for us as believers that are only revealed to us when we dig into the difficult texts. I think that is part of what seeking God is about. Knowing Him better has value in itself in addition to the other effects that believing the truth may have in our lives. Thank you for the effort you put into this, for encouraging us all to think critically about these questions, and for doing so in a way that was not critical of other people who are also trying to understand the truth better. I appreciate the desire to not alienate others and to build unity between believers.

[@billschlegel1]

Well said and thank you!

[@choicegospelnetwork]

There is NO unitarian or Trinitarian or oneness Christian. Christians Follow Jesus Christ WHO has a God . Who is the ONLY TRUE God and Father of us All. Amen 🙏

[@ken440]

you have to clarify this you said... "Christians Follow Jesus Christ WHO has a God . Who is the Father." Because you seem to contradict yourself. Jesus has a God. Who ios the father. Can be seen as you claiming in last three word sentence that Jesus is the Father. Do you mean " Jesus Christ WHO has a God, has a God who is the Father???"

[@choicegospelnetwork]

@@ken440 Thanks Ken. I was clear but made it clearer..

[@CalebTheHumbled]

Bill, I have encountered many One God believers who hold the belief that Jesus pre-existed. I do not hold that belief but I would love a podcast or video from you helping to refute this claim. Can you help give us some ammo for the defense of the MAN Jesus Christ to those One God believers who insist that Jesus is a pre-existant being?

[@ken440]

Thats a tricky issue Caleb. Same as me being a dispensation guy, there are a few different varieties of unitarians. I treat it like I did as a trinitarian, when as a Pentecostal evangelical I had to co exist with the many baptist etc folk who claimed I was a whacko. I am used to it. It makes me shake my head.

[@CalebTheHumbled]

@ken440 What's your opinion on this, Ken? There are more than a couple verses that could be taken to mean that he did, but I just don't buy that Jesus is a pre-existant, god-person who incarnated a human body. That's not how humans work.... Do you think Jesus pre-existed?

[@ken440]

@@CalebTheHumbled absolutely not and i had to unsub from a couple of unitarian channels who claim that and claim christians should keep the law. When one said he hoped the circumcision would return I blew up and scolded him and now have to avoid him completely. It all looks a mess at a glance, but we know that the perfect has not yet come, nor will it till the events described in Rev22. 🤣

[@CalebTheHumbled]

@ken440 There's another topic I am torn on. Keeping the Law. And what does that mean exactly? I have heard many different answers. I keep the 10 commandments and the commandments of love Yahshua gave, all to the best of my ability. Nothing but good has come from these. I wonder about keeping the Torah. And the feasts. In my heart, I long to, yet without the proper supporting culture, I find it nearly impossible. I have more of a problem with the "once saved always saved" crowd. They are a very hateful bunch I have found. and they seem to love sin more than righteousness, using the grace of God and forgiveness of Christ as a license to live in whatever fashion they desire. Anyone who disagrees with them is shouted down as "faithless". I'm definitely still growing and learning. I don't have all the answers, but Abba does. Blessings to you, brother.

[@Mikha335]

@@CalebTheHumbled Yes, the Law. I came to the Law before I knew who the God of Israel was. Like you I find it difficult. I’ve learned that the Law needs to be tempered through the grace of God manifested through Yeshua. I’m open to correction. But when others find out I believe the Law isn’t abolished, rather than a peaceful dialogue, most often a spirit of condemnation arises. I have a great difficulty understanding why the God of Israel would send His messiah into the world to abolish His own righteous and holy commandments. To me, using Paul to undermine God’s Law, is about like quoting John 1:1 to fashion His anointed son as an idol before Him. Of course if the Law has been abrogated then what’s wrong with reinterpreting it’s greatest commandment like Christianity has done? I think serious pondering needs to be done on this subject. Shalom brother

[@THEsotetoldal]

Thanks Bill! As fellow believer I have a challenge for you: how do you interpret the Messianic vision in Daniel 10? Is it past (preexistence) or future? Thanks!

[@ozymandias3617]

John made an introduction in likeness of the Book of Genesis to reveal that saving work of Christ comes from the same power that is responsible for the creation of the world and which is the Word of God (LOGOS). The Light that enlightens every person and has come into its own is LOGOS which had its special manifestation through mediation and preaching of human Jesus Christ. The boundary between the role of Christ and the revelation of the essence of Logos as God's Wisdom passes smoothly and overlaps, so there is no point in looking for a hard boundary here. But John certainly refers to the higher concept of LOGOS as the building block of our reality constituting a bridge between the invisible God and creation.

[@LoveAndLiberty02]

I'm unsettled on the correct way to interpret the prologue. I have defended the view that the logos is God's word of life in John 1:1, not Jesus, but I've also been seeking to refine my understanding. I think it makes the most sense that the prologue is referring to the same beginning as Matthew, Mark, and Luke, but I still think the logos in John 1:1 is God's word of life (as in 1 John 1), and that God's word of life became embodied in Jesus at verse 14. The idea that this is a reference to his baptism is intriguing, for that is when he began preaching God's word of life, the gospel of the kingdom. I'm open to better understanding.

[@billschlegel1]

Hi. I agree, like the beginnings in the synoptics, John's beginning introduces the person and ministry of the man Jesus of Nazareth. I think we can see the man and ministry of the man Jesus before 1:14 though. And, it is highly unlikely that 1:14 involves any kind of conception, birth or even "embodiment".

[@LoveAndLiberty02]

@billschlegel1 Thanks for the reply. I'll keep studying this. I appreciate your work.

[@ken440]

Same here.

[@thomas.bobby.g2918]

The created and conscious union of human spirit and human body first appears in John 1:29 "The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!" ......... The human spirit and life that was inside the Logos and was not yet created nor conscious is indicated in John 1:4-5 "In Him [Logos] was life [not created and not conscious human spirit], and the life was the light of men. And the light shines in the darkness, and the darkness did not comprehend it.

[@jeffstewart1668]

Isn't it the beginning and Christ the new creation and Christ christ? The new creation the beginning increased.

[@Mark8.34]

The “Word” in John 1 is the same “Word of life” in 1 John. And it says in 1 John that they saw, looked upon, handled the Word of life. I kind of get confused if 1 John 1 is speaking about the resurrection or the ministry of Jesus. I also get confused of John 1:14, what does the Word being made flesh means? Also what is the purpose of John 1:2. Thanks!

[@brandonr4452]

My thoughts are jumbled up in this comment, but oh well... I think the prologue is kind of like the gospel of John in a nutshell. I don't know the greek grammar and don't care about it much when it comes to John because the context of John is so much more important. I feel like people are forgetting about all of the themes running through John when they try to understand the prologue. There are many references to the prophets of the OT. Jesus says that the world has rejected the prophets ("to whom the word of God came"), so that is why the world rejects him. The word of God came through the prophets first. Now it is being manifested through Jesus. See John 1:17. Jesus also says that he only speaks the words that the father gives him, his teaching is not his own. It is believing/keeping this word that leads to eternal life. He claims to be the light of the world in the same way he claims to be the bread of life - not an ontological claim, but a metaphorical claim (which you end up saying later). What is the bread of life? Jesus sneaks the explanation in a few places: 6:33-36, 6:63, 6:67-69. The bread of life/God is God's word. If you believe/eat the God's word/bread, then you will have everlasting life. "Eating is believing" =P. Jesus is the one bringing that bread of life to the people. Many times "believing the word" (or some variation of that phrase) is used throughout the gospel of John. All that to say that I think it's fine having a wisdom christology interpretation of the prologue to some degree. I think it makes more sense of the first half of the prologue. "The word became flesh" to me means the manifestation of the word through Jesus. It's not "the pre-incarnate Word" taking on human nature. It could also be a reference to verses 32-34. So I don't see Jesus or His ministry possibly being referenced before verse 14. I lean toward the Genesis version of "the beginning" in the prologue since I think they are comparing OT prophets/law to the new revelation of God's word through Jesus. But if you think the person of Jesus is being talked about all the way back at the start of the prologue, that would seem to imply Jesus was involved with creation. However, there are some other occurrences of "the beginning" (at least in English) in other places of John that might sway someone to a "new" beginning interpretation (2:11, 6:64, 8:25, 15:27, 16:4), since John seems pretty consistent with words/phrases.

[@jesusisthechristthesonofgod]

john 1:14 is the baptism of the Holy Ghost john bares witness if the Word of God "this is my beloved Son"

[@jeffstewart1668]

Rev 5:4 5 John the Babtist,

[@Mckaule]

Can somebody who knows Hebrew translate Psalm 9:5. I don't see word angels there, because I don't see word malakhyim but elohyim. For me it sounds like "you have created him a little lower than GOD/gods, and with glory and honor you have crowned him".

[@gregmichaelson2399]

Are we living in the 1000 years?

[@nephkiller]

Any time life is mentioned in Scripture, it refers to Spirit. Any separation from that is the opposite... Death.

[@Bo__M]

I think the NT reveals clearly enough the identity of the "λογος" of John's prologue. In Rev 19:13 (cf. 19:16 - King of kings and Lord of lords), Jesus, as the conquering King, is called "λογος" . Returning to John 1:1-14 with this finding, the question is why John chose "λογος" rather than perhaps Jesus, Christ, Savior, or some other term. Why did he choose "λογος"? The answer can - in my opinion - be derived precisely from Rev 19:13: it was to express continuity in time, both to the past and the present (the time of the writing of the Gospel), but also to the eschatological future. If he had written: "In the beginning was Christ/Jesus/Savior..., and Christ/Jesus/Savior was with God...", he would indeed be correct on the formal side of things: Jesus was Jesus, the Christ or Savior, but He became that first and foremost when the "λογος" became flesh. The term "λογος" thus universally expresses the identity, the pre-human Jesus, his incarnation, but also his eschatological victory. I see in "λογος" a similar analogy, namely with "νομος" = "Law". The singular "νομος" expressed the unity of the Law. Although the Law would be composed of individual "commandments", still, in the Jewish/Apostolist conception, the unity of the Law took precedence. This is well described in James 2:8-11. He mentions the law "Love thy neighbor" and refers to each individual commandment, writing as the Law. A violation of one Law is a violation of the whole Law. It is the same with Jesus: he too, refers to - one single commandment - as the Law (on circumcision John 7:22-23), and so did the early Christians, regardless of disputes (Acts 15:1;5). Thus, in their understanding, there was no set/collection of laws, but one single Law, which also consisted of the Law, because every edible "ordinance" was the Law. I find a similar scheme with the word "λογος". This is especially evident in 2 Tim. 2:17 (the case of Hynemaeus and Philetos). Paul here refers to the doctrines of the resurrection already in progress as "λογος". He uses the singular, although it is clear that it was not a single word. This doctrine consisted of several "articles of faith," but because of its "unity" it deserved the singular designation... Thus, "λογος" in John 1:1-14 allows us to develop the idea of Christ who was at Creation, but the "λογος" was given a "fleshly body = of flesh and bone" and this "λογος" will wage a victorious battle at the end of the ages.

[@billschlegel1]

Hi, thanks for listening and thoughtful answer. Consider the possibility that John 1 beginning is not the Genesis 1 beginning, and that the Logos/Word is a metaphorical title for the human person, the man Jesus of Nazareth, through whom God brings about a new beginning. Thus the contents of the Gospel of John - signs like the healing of a lame man, the giving of sight to the blind, the resurrection from the dead. John's Gospel is not about the creation of land, seas, sun, moon, plants and animals.

[@Bo__M]

@@billschlegel1 The Prologue of John's Gospel is, in my opinion, only related to Gen 1 and 2 in John 1:3 (everything through him and nothing at all without something) and then - perhaps/partly - in John 1:10 regarding κοσμος, if we take into account the LXX Gen 2:1. However, regarding κοσμος, John 7:1-4 must also be taken into account, so one can also consider that John 1:10 means only Palestine...the word κοσμος itself is very important eschatologically, but that is not the topic now. I don't think John wanted to write some cosmogonic account - in my opinion, his point was to show/prove that Jesus is indeed the son of God, in terms of pre-human existence. This is subsequently developed into a form of the "light" of the world, and subsequently, eschatological expectation... The structure of his text is very simple - first the beginning is mentioned, where he was and with whom. What he did and what all came into being. Interestingly, no mention is made of any activity that was associated with, for example, the exodus of the Jews from Egypt. A retrospective look at Jewish history and christological evidence yields rather ap. Paul e.g. 1 Cor. 10:4 (the rock from which the forefathers drank was Christ... etc.). If I just comment briefly on Genesis 1 and 2, I think they describe the "transformation" of the earth and the conditions for life. It is not a "creatio ex nihilo", it is not a creation over thousands or millions of years. Jesus was able to turn water into wine, in an instant.😊 I pretty much agree with the Jewish, early medieval commentary on Genesis by Ibn Esra. Particularly regarding the explanation of "bara" = "to create" and its reference to Joshua 17:15;18 (pastures and fields are created by cutting down a forest i.e. turning from something into something). The Hebrew "bara" according to Ibn Esra does not mean to create something from nothing, but to transform something into something else. The text of Gen 1 and 2 itself, then, offers a parallel, between the creation of man's "bara" (1:27) and the "forming of man from the dust of the ground" in 2:7. God used existing material and brought it to life. And because this process of "transformation" happened in 7 days, it became the basis for the 7 day week...(some think the Sabbath is still important to Christians - I, of course, do not...). But I don't want to go beyond the scope of the discussion... so that's about all I'd say.

[@billschlegel1]

@@Bo__M Thanks again for the thoughtful response. I take the end of 1:3 to be connected with 1:4. The Greek texts had no punctuation, and many commentators, both ancient and modern, have taken the text this way. It's not essential for my understanding , since even separated from vs. 3, verse 4 "in him was life". But it becomes clearer if the translation would be: "That which came to be in him was life, and the life was the light of men' . John1:4 is explaining and expanding what "all" came to be through the Word (in my view, the man Jesus of Nazareth). The "all things" translation in 1:3 could be a bit deceiving. There is no "things", just "all". And nowhere else in John does the word "all" mean all the created universe. The word "all" means other things, like "all events" but mostly means "all humans, people" in John's Gospel. So, John 1:3 is not talking about the creation of the physical world, but of the events that occurred in the life of Jesus, especially the coming to be of new life in him. The book culminates in the resurrection of a human being from the dead.

[@Bo__M]

@@billschlegel1 Interesting comment! NA26 refers to Irenaeus of Lyons as the first commentator to tie John 1:3-4 together. I have only skimmed the index references to see how Irenaeus quotes John's prologue. I found only one place (AdvHaer I:8,5) where, in an introductory, general polemic against Gnostic doctrines (emanation), he links Zoe (life) with the Logos. But in context, it is clear that this is just Irenaeus' "tactical" concession: that what the Gnostics say is true on this point, but otherwise wrong... In other places I've quickly scanned, Irenaeus quotes John 1:3 in its entirety and does not connect it to 1:4. AdvHaer III:18,1 may be a contribution to our discussion. Irenaeus comments on the statement, "If he was born, he was not before Christ" (Si ergo tunc natus est, non erat ergo ante Christus), which Irenaeus explains before that the Logos (Christ) was with the Father, through him all things were, and a very interesting passage follows, "he was always present with men, and at a later time, according to the time determined beforehand, he became...a vulnerable man". I understand it in a similar sense: the Logos was created, before the creation of all things, and participated "in the form of God" (Philippians 2:6), in the Creation - that's the plural statement from Gen 1:26: "Let us make...". On the other hand, what I know of Irenaeus of Lyons or Hippolytus of Rome, their works are, I don't want to say directly problematic, but I think they need to be critiqued before their ideas are taken up. While they represent a great treasure trove of interesting interpretations, they hide the danger that - at least in the extant texts - contradictions can be found (in Irenaeus, for example, the number 666 and its gematria, which, however, the Gnostics vehemently deny with the number 888...). The question arises: what and who, and from what motives, chooses this and not another quote...? But honestly: the problem is general😊 That's why I would remain cautious about combining the text of John 1:3-4, into one whole, and see it as a curiosity. I wouldn't give it a value: true/false. In my own evaluation of John's prologue, I find in John 1:14 the statement that the Logos became flesh. If it "became flesh", then the Logos must have existed before it became flesh. I then answer the question of where the Logos was, and I do so according to John 1:1-2. I understand the term "all" (1:3a) absolutely because John himself affirms it in (1:3b): ουδε εν = "not one (thing)". The same phrase is used e.g. by the LXX in Ex 14:28 = Pharaoh's whole army was drowned, there was "not one thing" left. John then quotes John the Baptist's statement in 3:27 that a man cannot take "even one thing" unless it has been given to him from heaven.

[@billschlegel1]

@@Bo__M Bo, my take on John 1:3 is here (written article, but a link to the podcast if you prefer listening). Blessings. landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/09/no-john-13-does-not-say-jesus-created.html

[@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rx]

📜 Revelation 6:16and they said to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us and hide us from the sight of Him who sits on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb; 17for the great day of *Their wrath has come, and who is able to stand?”

[@ken440]

Yes..... THEIR wrath. Showing that like Joseph was raised and set up on Pharaohs throne to govern in Pharaohs authority during a time of trouble and drought, so is Jesus raised and glorified to deal with a time of trouble and the clean up of the enemy corrupted creation. God (father) and christ (anointed son).

[@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rx]

@@ken440 📜 Isaiah 2:17 The pride of humanity will be humbled and the arrogance of people will be brought low; And the LORD alone will be exalted on that day, 18And the idols will completely vanish. 19People will go into caves of the rocks And into holes in the ground Away from the terror of the LORD And the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth. 20On that day people will throw away to the moles and the bats Their idols of silver and their idols of gold, Which they made for themselves to worship, 21In order to go into the clefts of the rocks and the crannies of the cliffs Before the terror of the LORD and the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth. 📜 Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; LEAVE ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’ 24“Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts on them, will be like a wise man who built his house on the rock.

[@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rx]

@ken440 📜 Isaiah 2:17 The pride of humanity will be humbled and the arrogance of people will be brought low; And - the LORD alone - will be exalted - on that day - 18And the idols will completely vanish. 19People will go into caves of the rocks And into holes in the ground Away from the terror of the LORD And the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth. 20On that day people will throw away to the moles and the bats Their idols of silver and their idols of gold, Which they made for themselves to worship, 21In order to go into the clefts of the rocks and the crannies of the cliffs Before the terror of the LORD and the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth. 📜 Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; LEAVE ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’ 24“Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts on them, will be like a wise man who built his house on the Rock. 📜 1Corinthians 10:1For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers and sisters, that our fathers were all under the cloud and they all passed through the sea; 2and they all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3and they all ate the same spiritual food, 4and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual Rock which followed them; and the Rock was Christ. 📜 Matthew 16:15 “But who do you yourselves say that I am?”

[@HebreosCincoDoce-nt8rx]

@ken440 📜 Isaiah 2:17 The pride of humanity will be humbled and the arrogance of people will be brought low; And - the LORD alone - will be exalted - on that day - 18And the idols will completely vanish. 19People will go into caves of the rocks And into holes in the ground Away from the terror of the LORD And the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth. 20On that day people will throw away to the moles and the bats Their idols of silver and their idols of gold, Which they made for themselves to worship, 21In order to go into the clefts of the rocks and the crannies of the cliffs Before the terror of the LORD and the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth. 📜 Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; LEAVE ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’ 24“Therefore, everyone who hears these words of Mine, and acts on them, will be like a wise man who built his house on the Rock. 📜 1Corinthians 10:1For I do not want you to be unaware, brothers and sisters, that our fathers were all under the cloud and they all passed through the sea; 2and they all were baptized into Moses in the cloud and in the sea; 3and they all ate the same spiritual food, 4and all drank the same spiritual drink, for they were drinking from a spiritual Rock which followed them; and the Rock was Christ. 📜 Matthew 16:15 “But who do you yourselves say that I am?”

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@@ken440 📜 Isaiah 2:17 The pride of humanity will be humbled and the arrogance of people will be brought low; And - the LORD alone - will be exalted - on that day - 18And the idols will completely vanish. 19People will go into caves of the rocks And into holes in the ground Away from the terror of the LORD And the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth. 20On that day people will throw away to the moles and the bats Their idols of silver and their idols of gold, Which they made for themselves to worship, 21In order to go into the clefts of the rocks and the crannies of the cliffs Before the terror of the LORD and the splendor of His majesty, When He arises to terrify the earth. 📜 Matthew 7:21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but the one who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; LEAVE ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’