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@imago9059
@imago9059 2 күн бұрын
Because Philippians 2:5-8 your relationships with one another, have the same mindset as Christ Jesus: 6 Who, being in very nature[a] God, did not consider equality with God something to be used to his own advantage; 7 rather, he made himself nothing by taking the very nature[b] of a servant, being made in human likeness. 8 And being found in appearance as a man, he humbled himself by becoming obedient to death- even death on a cross!
@readlesspraymore4686
@readlesspraymore4686 8 күн бұрын
15:20 .. .And that right there is where this interpretation fails. Sorry Bill, Jesus can not be the Logos in v1 if you believe the scriptures say the Logos was God. You can't simply glance over this and your explanation is not sufficient for a trinitarian. "John is saying Jesus was God because the Father is dwelling in him." ...... its just not a strong statement. The Logos WAS God. Jesus was never God and will never be God.
@MichaelWeston-cq4xb
@MichaelWeston-cq4xb 8 күн бұрын
The Holly Scriptures does make it clear that Jesus is not God, he is the son of God. The Bible tells us about Jesus that when he ascended to heaven, he's seated on the right hand side of God's throne
@eddieyoung2104
@eddieyoung2104 9 күн бұрын
I think it's crazy when I get an email from someone at an online shop and they write their name followed by (they/them). Then Bill reminds us it's been going on for centuries, with the Trinity! I guess now for the younger generation it'll be nothing unusual for someone to tell them God is a 'they'. Hoping for Christ's return to clear away all these deceptions.
@Mike34006
@Mike34006 9 күн бұрын
Sup 👋, quick question. Are you more of a Unitarian now? Strictly understanding the Bible for what is written!? Do u have a video on why you don't believe in oneness? Thx
@Mike34006
@Mike34006 9 күн бұрын
Exactly...the word put on flesh!
@KC360_killz
@KC360_killz 10 күн бұрын
Who else refers Himself as “I AM” ? Jesus. L
@CinnaBunzz
@CinnaBunzz 11 күн бұрын
How would you explain when Jesus says him and the father are one and the Pharisees tried to stone him saying “you a man make yourself God”? Or when John says the word was God and the word became flesh? Or when Jesus explained that Abraham rejoiced to see his day and the Pharisees said how could you know Abraham (because Jesus was young) and Jesus stated that before Abraham was “I am” and they tried to stone him again?
@CinnaBunzz
@CinnaBunzz 11 күн бұрын
How would you explain when Jesus says him and the father are one and the Pharisees tried to stone him saying “you a man make yourself God”? Or when John says the word was God and the word became flesh?
@johnnytekstar
@johnnytekstar 11 күн бұрын
What???????????? This explanation of Craig is the most ridiculous I've ever heard yet. I used to believe God was a trinity, but there's just way to many scriptures and too much common sense ,to realize the trinity is a Pagan Greco/Roman Philosophical concept and not the truth. Jesus/Yeshua is The Son of God, The Messiah, but he is not GOD Almighty. John 17:3 , John 20:17 Deuteronomy 6:4 Even the demons declared Jesus as "The Son Of The Most High " Just as Peter did. Jesus Himself said That God was his father. Can a son be a father to himself? NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
@elenganodelatrinidad1
@elenganodelatrinidad1 14 күн бұрын
Bingo
@SvTrilogyDoug
@SvTrilogyDoug 14 күн бұрын
Pronoun soap
@ElCineHefe
@ElCineHefe 14 күн бұрын
Bingo!
@shibakim
@shibakim 14 күн бұрын
Trinitarians = idol worshipers
@elimason7954
@elimason7954 15 күн бұрын
The Spirit inclines us to cry "Abba Father," not Abba trinity. In the Lord's prayer Jesus taught us to pray to "Our Father," not our trinity. Paul tells us: "I bow my knees unto the Father, " All Bible prayers are to the Father and a few to Jesus. But never to the trinity.
@joykish7342
@joykish7342 15 күн бұрын
Yessssssssssss love it!!!!!
@JacobSilverdal
@JacobSilverdal 15 күн бұрын
Amen to sanity! 🙌
@ONEFAITHofJESUS
@ONEFAITHofJESUS 15 күн бұрын
So true...
@MarioMontes-uk5eu
@MarioMontes-uk5eu 15 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@austinwthompson45
@austinwthompson45 16 күн бұрын
Beware of false prophets...
@ken440
@ken440 13 күн бұрын
Yes, Bill is pointing out the lies and false teachings of those false prophets who made up the trinity 1700 years ago. Thanks for the warning.
@Jaunyus
@Jaunyus 16 күн бұрын
Hello, Thanks for your question. It's important to read a verse within its context, AKA verse 28: "My Lord and my God", not to mention the entire Gospel of John. Also I'm a bit confused as to how verse 28 dismisses his deity. John calling him The" Annointed One is pointing out his mission not his nature. Peace
@Jaunyus
@Jaunyus 16 күн бұрын
Hello, Thanks for your question. 1) The answer to your question can be answered with a question: Why doesn't he say, "our God" and "your God"? Simply because how Christ is the Son of God differs from how we are sons (or children) of God: begotten versus adopted (John 1:18 vs. John 1:12-13). 2) There is only one God. Paul echoes the "Shma" (Deut. 6:4) in his first letter to the Corinthians (8:6). Notice, however, how he cleverly distributes this oneness to both by applying God to the Father and Lord to the Son. While both are Lord and God (John 20:28), Paul distributes them to retain their distinction within their oneness. 3) The Son is begotten of the Father and not the other way around, for the Father is the fountain of being. Peace
@gideonopyotuadebo2304
@gideonopyotuadebo2304 18 күн бұрын
THERE IS DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE HEBREW DABAR (WORD) OF GOD YEHOVAH AND THE GREEK LOGOS (WORD) OF ZEUS ? WHATEVER OR WHOEVER IS CONTRADICTING THE WORD OF THE LAW OF THE COVENANT OF GOD YEHOVAH IN THE TESTIMONY OF GOD YEHOVAH IN THE BOOK OF GOD YEHOVAH, THE BOOK OF THE COVENANT, THE BOOK OF THE LAW, THE BOOK OF THE LAW, THE PROPHETS AND WRITINGS OF GOD YEHOVAH IS ERRING, LYING AND DECEIVING. THE WAY OF GOD YEHOVAH IS DIFFERENT FROM A SYNCRETISM WITH GRECOROMAN IDOLATROUS THEOLOGY
@jimwilmot2371
@jimwilmot2371 18 күн бұрын
So, once the end comes and Jesus hands over the kingdom to the father, will Jesus no longer be Lord? And what would he be in that case? 1 Cor. 15:24
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
I think he will be the most high of all Gods sons, bar God Himself. He will be Gods right hand man, and will be the one who takes the position away from the "covering cherub" who sinned and tried to "be god."
@AdirondackChef
@AdirondackChef 18 күн бұрын
New International Version Thomas said to him, “My Lord and my God!” New Living Translation “My Lord and my God!” Thomas exclaimed. English Standard Version Thomas answered him, “My Lord and my God!” Berean Standard Bible Thomas replied, “My Lord and my God!” Berean Literal Bible Thomas answered and said to Him, "My Lord and my God!" King James Bible And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. New King James Version And Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” New American Standard Bible Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” NASB 1995 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” NASB 1977 Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Legacy Standard Bible Thomas answered and said to Him, “My Lord and my God!” Amplified Bible Thomas answered Him, “My Lord and my God!” Christian Standard Bible Thomas responded to him, “My Lord and my God! ” Holman Christian Standard Bible Thomas responded to Him, “My Lord and my God!” American Standard Version Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord and my God. Aramaic Bible in Plain English And Thomas answered and said to him, “My Lord, and my God.” Contemporary English Version Thomas replied, "You are my Lord and my God!" Douay-Rheims Bible Thomas answered, and said to him: My Lord, and my God.
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
And when asked why they were looking up the chimney at christmas, the children answered, "waiting to see SANTA AND RUDOLF."
@joshuathompson7033
@joshuathompson7033 18 күн бұрын
Jesus said in John that "I and my Father are one." Jesus told Satan in Matthew "thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God." I guess you missed the old testament references too. If he's not God then how is he still alive? How did he live a completely sinless life? You need to repent of this blasphemy.
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
I guess you missed the point in saying "...not temp the lord your God." Jesus was pointing out he was going to obey scripture and not tempt the lord his God." he wasnt saying he was that Lord God !
@joshuathompson7033
@joshuathompson7033 18 күн бұрын
@ken440 Then how come he didn't rebuke Thomas when he looked at the glorified Jesus Christ and said, "MY LORD AND MY GOD?" How come Paul said that Jesus Christ was "God manifest in the flesh?" Why did Jesus say "The Father judgeth no man but hath committed all judgment unto the Son?" Jesus Christ is God, and again, you need to repent and be born again. Jesus was tempted of Satan and was directly addressing Satan speaking of himself as God because he is. Jesus also said before Abraham was, I AM. Who is the I AM of scripture? God is and Jesus Christ is God the Son the Son of God. John 3:16 makes it clear that Jesus was begotten of God and not created. You'll never convince me otherwise. You need to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and be saved then all these truths will be opened unto you.
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
@@joshuathompson7033 Because Thomas at last understood what Jesus was telling them all along, that God was working THROUGH him, speaking THROUGH him, and Peter proves it in Acts2:22 "a MAN ATTESTED BY GOD" with miracles and wonders done THROUGH him." Why Paul says Jesus os the full MANIFESTATION" of God. Because God manifests IN Jesus. A spirit (holy spirit, not an unclean spirit) manifesting in a man. Thomas suddenly gets the lightbulb moment, and addresses Jesus his Lord, and through Jesus his overlord, God. Do you see?
@joshuathompson7033
@joshuathompson7033 18 күн бұрын
Learn to read English and submit to the Holy Ghost, who is the author of the book, and you might actually learn something. The bible speaks of Jesus. You didn't even address name I AM or before Abraham was I AM. I'm sorry but God's word doesn't contradict himself. If he's not God then why did he say that about himself? Let us make man in OUR image says God. Who is the our? God the Father, God the Son Jesus Christ, and God the Holy Ghost. God asks Isaiah a question. He asks who will go for US? Don't you see that? Why are you and others like you privately interpreting the bible? Peter says it's not up to that. There are so many proofs and yet you're blinded by this false doctrine. When in doubt ask God to help you out.
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
@@joshuathompson7033 these chestnuts you raise are addressed all over the comments just on this video, and by the videos themselves if you just look. And "I AM" is not a name of God. Exodus 3 says "ego eimi ho on" and that in our english is I am the everlasting one, highest God, etc (because "on" was the language of the day for "undying God". "ho" is def article "the" and "ego eimi" is identifier of self (ego) in context (eimi). So the identity of God in that passage is "ho on" which we would say in simplest terms "the God." I AM is just another misunderstood religious chestnut, and i have explained this literally hundreds of times, and every unitarian channel and publication addresses this, you will find it in a video on this channel. Jesus was identifying himself (ego eimi = I am) with the context they were talking about, which was the prophetic promise that made "Abraham glad." Messiah. Not existing before Abraham, which was the sarcasm the pharisees leveled at him, and he pointed out they were liars and murderers. By the way, thanks for the invite to be born again. I already have been, in March 1981. And i was a trinitarian saying what you are saying, till 2017 !! Now I study properly instead of soaking up denominational sermons.
@Patrick-nh8em
@Patrick-nh8em 18 күн бұрын
Hebrews 1:8 But to The Son (Jesus) He (The Father) say's; Your throne , OH' God is for ever; A scepter of righteousness is a scepter of Your Kingdom.... John 8:58- Before Abraham was I AM! The Words of my God & Savior Jesus Christ! John 2:19- Destroy this Temple and in three days I WILL RAISE IT UP again! The Words of Jesus Christ!
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
just read some comments friend. I AM has been extensively covered. as for Heb 1:8 its a quote from psalms pointing out a jewish king occupying the throne that God set him on. Its quoted there to remind the audience, hebrew born christians, ex jews, of the provision of the throne for Gods anointed one. Its Gods throne in Jerusalem that messiah is promised, in Hebrew scripture.
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
as for raising the temple, he was talking about his body..... are you not one of the body of christ? Are you not part of that group that Jesus set up when he was raised 3 days after he was destroyed? are you not the temple of holy spirit as scripture says? how come so many come along and quote the same old chestnuts, without having even a brief read of some of the other comments, or looking these issues up for themselves? This is why these channels exist, and why i reply to you, to show you there ARE other ways to see what was written, beyond the tradition of church denominations. Please look at other teachings on this channel, and think outside your theology box, it might not be as solid as you thought.
@Patrick-nh8em
@Patrick-nh8em 17 күн бұрын
@@ken440 That's right. Jesus was clearly speaking of Himself, raising Himself up on the 3'd day.... Clearly showing that He is God in the flesh! We need to look at NOTHING ELSE but The Devinly inspired Word of God (THE BIBLE)
@ken440
@ken440 17 күн бұрын
@@Patrick-nh8em off you go with your supposed ontology again. Jesus is head and creator of the body, us believers. That is the temple. He was speaking of what he would do once resurrected on the third day. Not raising himself. But Gods promise in the word that He would raise and greatly glorify His obedient servant. Jesus believed his God, as he Jesus learned FROM scripture, with holy spirit leading during his learning.
@Patrick-nh8em
@Patrick-nh8em 17 күн бұрын
@@ken440 I think your speaking jibberish... Jesus clearly stated; destroy this Temple (My body) and in 3 days I will raise it up again! Jesus sounds way more coherent than you do... I'll stick with Him.👍
@stefanjohnson6260
@stefanjohnson6260 18 күн бұрын
Isaiah 9:6 6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace. Colossians 2:9 9 For in him dwelleth all the fulness of the Godhead bodily. Many many more scriptures that prove that Jesus is God. Jesus is the flesh of God the spirit. Just as we also have a spirit we don’t say our spirit is another being.
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
your first quote is the prophetic position Jesus will hold after he returns and reigns from jerusalem, still future.
@ken440
@ken440 18 күн бұрын
your second quote is about how God by way of unseen spirit, manifested in the man Jesus. the original promise of that is Deut18:18. And Peter points it out in Acts2:22.
@Michael-pw2td
@Michael-pw2td 18 күн бұрын
Nah, Jesus is God. Let me know if you have any other problems.
@pollutedmindmusic
@pollutedmindmusic 18 күн бұрын
John 20:28
@b3beta
@b3beta 19 күн бұрын
Jesus said in John 10:30. I and Father are One
@jollyrancher521
@jollyrancher521 5 күн бұрын
When Jesus said “I and the Father are one” in John 10:30, he was talking about the unity of purpose that existed between him and the Father. He did not mean that he was of the same essence or substance with the Father, or that he and the Father were one God, coequal and coeternal. In John 17:22, Jesus prayed to God that his disciples also would be one “just as we are one.” Obviously, the disciples were not one in substance. They were one in purpose.
@martinweber202
@martinweber202 19 күн бұрын
hahahaha NOT TRUE STOP THE BS
@b3beta
@b3beta 19 күн бұрын
Jesus Christ is The Lord and God (John 10:30; John 1:1; John 1:14; 1Timothy 3:16; ect❤❤
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
Jesus is Lord. Yes. You will find Peter telling you when he was MADE Lord, Acts2:36. But Jesus is NOT God, he is Gods promised human messiah, the provided LAMB of God.
@sageseraph5035
@sageseraph5035 19 күн бұрын
Hey people, this guy will not change his mind. He will have a way to twist every single verse you can throw at him just as all heretics do. But so that you may know this guy is a false teacher let me give some simple proofs that Jesus is indeed God. Let’s look at the very beginning of Mark’s gospel. “The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God; As it is written in the prophets, ‘Behold, I send my messenger before thy face, which shall prepare thy way before thee. The voice of one crying in the wilderness, Prepare ye the way of the Lord, make his paths straight.’” Mark 1:1-3 Here Mark quotes Isaiah 40:3. Mark is talking about John the Baptist who prepares the way of who? Jesus. But who does Isaiah say the one crying out in the wilderness prepares the way of? The Lord. The use of the Lord there is actually replacing the original word, YHWH, the name of God. Jews did not say that name and so would say Lord instead of YHWH. In Isaiah it’s YHWH, the divine name. So Isaiah is talking about a man preparing the way of God, but Mark applies it to John the Baptist who prepares the way of Jesus. Thus Mark says Jesus is YHWH or God. Or let’s look at Matthew. Matthew applies Isaiah 7’s prophecy of Emmanuel to Jesus. “Now all this was done, that it might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet, saying, ‘Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel,’ which being interpreted is, God with us.” Matthew 1:22-23 So what is Jesus according to Matthew? God with us. This is a big theme of the book and as in many books of the Bible this theme stated at the beginning shows up again at the very end. Look at the final two verse of Matthew. “‘Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world.’ Amen.” He says “Behold I am WITH YOU always.” He is God with us. Emmanuel. Okay we looked at Mark and Matthew chapter 1, what about something from Luke chapter 1? Luke like Matthew tells a birth narrative about Christ and he tells a story about the Virgin Mary visiting her cousin Elizabeth for 3 months. Something remarkable about this story are the parallels to 2 Samuel 6 in which the ark of the covenant, the most holy object on which God sat, visits Jerusalem for 3 months. You can look up more of the word parallels yourself but this one is interesting for our purposes. 2 Samuel 6:9 says “And David was afraid of the Lord that day, and said, ‘How shall the ark of the Lord come to me?’” Elizabeth says something very similar. “And whence is this to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me?” Luke 1:43 By this, Luke portrays Mary as the ark of the covenant, the very place where who was enthroned? The Lord God. The ark of the Lord came to David and the Mother of the Lord came to Elizabeth. The same Lord of all. And while we’re at it we can talk about the famous beginning of the Gospel of John. “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.” John 1:1 then later “And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth.” So the Word (that was just said to be God) becomes flesh, literally incarnates and does what? Dwelt among us. This term John uses here is the same as tabernacle. He’s calling back to the tabernacle, the tent where God came down and dwelled with his people. Jesus is a new Tabernacle of God. God with us. Now like I said about Matthew, John follows this up at the end of his gospel too. What does Thomas say upon seeing the risen Lord? “And Thomas answered and said unto him, ‘My Lord and my God.’” John 20:28 Jesus of course accepts this worship and says “Thomas, because thou hast seen me, thou hast believed: blessed are they that have not seen, and yet have believed.” John 20:29 If that isn’t enough for you, there’s plenty of more examples. Perhaps you could look at how Jesus says in John 2:19 and Mark 14:58 that the Jews can destroy this temple and in 3 days he’ll raise it up. Jesus is saying that his body is the true temple of God and that in 3 days he’ll raise it up. John even says “But he was speaking about the temple of his body. When therefore he was raised from the dead, his disciples remembered that he had said this, and they believed the Scripture and the word that Jesus had spoken.” John 2:21-22 Or perhaps you could look at how in Acts 3:15 Peter says that the Jews have killed the author of life. Or you could look at Philippians 2 where Paul says “Who, being in the form of God, thought it not robbery to be equal with God: But made himself of no reputation, and took upon him the form of a servant, and was made in the likeness of men: And being found in fashion as a man, he humbled himself, and became obedient unto death, even the death of the cross. Wherefore God also hath highly exalted him, and given him a name which is above every name: That at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, of things in heaven, and things in earth, and things under the earth; And that every tongue should confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.” How is he equal with God (the Father)? Also Paul is quoting Isaiah here. God says “I have sworn by myself, the word is gone out of my mouth in righteousness, and shall not return, That unto me every knee shall bow, every tongue shall swear.” Isaiah 45:23 Paul applies a prophecy about God to Jesus. Or perhaps look at Jesus calling himself the Alpha and the Omega, the beginning and the end in the book of Revelation. Or look at the early church fathers calling Jesus God with absolutely no problem. St. Ignatius of Antioch does it in his letter to the Romans. St. Irenaeus of Lyons does it in his book Against Heresies. You may ask though, isn’t this still kind of hidden? Maybe if you don’t meditate on the scriptures day and night as the scriptures tell us. But actually no, it’s clear as day when you understand what it means that Jesus was the Son of God. When Jesus claimed to be the Son of God, there were people who already had that title applied to them. The angels are called sons of God. David was called the Son of God. Israel was called the Son of God. But when Jesus says he is the Son of God he means something different, something more. He means that he is by his very nature God. That he was begotten of the Father. When you have a child, he shares in your nature. He is your flesh and blood. Jesus is saying that he truly has the divine nature of God. This is why it’s a big deal when Peter confesses the true faith in Matthew 16. Jesus asks what men say about him. The disciples say that men say he’s John the Baptist or Elijah or another of the prophets, but then he asks “But who do you say that I am?” Peter speaks up and confesses “You are the Christ, the Son of the living God.” Now he had been called the Son of God before, I believe Nathanael did it early in John. What Peter confesses here is that Christ is the Son of the living God, emphasis on living. God is so alive that he begot a Son who shares in his divine nature. Yet there is only one God. How can Jesus have the nature of his father and not be another God? That’s the mystery of the Holy Trinity that the Church has professed from the beginning and will do forever. And Jesus blessed Peter for this confession saying “And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven. And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.” The gates of hell will never prevail against the church founded on Peter and his confession of faith in the divine Son of the living God. I’ll end it with Mark. “Again the high priest asked him, and said unto him, ‘Art thou the Christ, the Son of the Blessed?’ And Jesus said, ‘I am: and ye shall see the Son of man sitting on the right hand of power, and coming in the clouds of heaven.’ Then the high priest rent his clothes, and saith, ‘What need we any further witnesses? Ye have heard the blasphemy: what think ye? And they all condemned him to be guilty of death.’” Amen. Come Lord Jesus.
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
just at the end you pointed out they asked him "are though the one, the christ, son of the blessed?" and he answered correctly "ego eimi" "I am, the son of man...." So think what "christ" maens.... its greek "christos" meaning "anointed one." and so is there a promised anointed one in scripture? yes !!! Gen3:15. the seed of the woman who will damage ol devils head (destroy his works). And Deut18:18 "I will raise a great one (messiah... anointed one) from AMONG YOUR BROTHERS (i.e. jewish human) and I will put MY WORDS in HIS mouth." Doesnt Jesus say in John a couple times "i say nothing of myself but only what my father says THROUGH me...." Doesnt scripture repeatedly point out that Gods anointed servants do what they do TO THE GLORY OF THE FATHER, GOD.? Is45:23 e.g.
@sageseraph5035
@sageseraph5035 19 күн бұрын
@@ken440St. Irenaeus Against Heresies Book III Chapter 19 “For this reason [it is, said], Who shall declare His generation? Isaiah 53:8 since He is a man, and who shall recognise Him? Jeremiah 17:9 But he to whom the Father which is in heaven has revealed Him, Matthew 16:16 knows Him, so that he understands that He who was not born either by the will of the flesh, or by the will of man, John 1:13 is the Son of man, this is Christ, the Son of the living God. For I have shown from the Scriptures, that no one of the sons of Adam is as to everything, and absolutely, called God, or named Lord. But that He is Himself in His own right, beyond all men who ever lived, God, and Lord, and King Eternal, and the Incarnate Word, proclaimed by all the prophets, the apostles, and by the Spirit Himself, may be seen by all who have attained to even a small portion of the truth. Now, the Scriptures would not have testified these things of Him, if, like others, He had been a mere man. But that He had, beyond all others, in Himself that pre-eminent birth which is from the Most High Father, and also experienced that pre-eminent generation which is from the Virgin, Isaiah 7:14 the divine Scriptures do in both respects testify of Him: also, that He was a man without comeliness, and liable to suffering; Isaiah 53:2 that He sat upon the foal of an ass; Zechariah 9:9 that He received for drink, vinegar and gall; that He was despised among the people, and humbled Himself even to death and that He is the holy Lord, the Wonderful, the Counsellor, the Beautiful in appearance, and the Mighty God, Isaiah 9:6 coming on the clouds as the Judge of all men; Daniel 7:13 - all these things did the Scriptures prophesy of Him. For as He became man in order to undergo temptation, so also was He the Word that He might be glorified; the Word remaining quiescent, that He might be capable of being tempted, dishonoured, crucified, and of suffering death, but the human nature being swallowed up in it (the divine), when it conquered, and endured [without yielding], and performed acts of kindness, and rose again, and was received up [into heaven]. He therefore, the Son of God, our Lord, being the Word of the Father, and the Son of man, since He had a generation as to His human nature from Mary - who was descended from mankind, and who was herself a human being - was made the Son of man. Isaiah 7:13 Wherefore also the Lord Himself gave us a sign, in the depth below, and in the height above, which man did not ask for, because he never expected that a virgin could conceive, or that it was possible that one remaining a virgin could bring forth a son, and that what was thus born should be God with us, and descend to those things which are of the earth beneath, seeking the sheep which had perished, which was indeed His own peculiar handiwork, and ascend to the height above, offering and commending to His Father that human nature (hominem) which had been found, making in His own person the first-fruits of the resurrection of man; that, as the Head rose from the dead, so also the remaining part of the body - [namely, the body] of everyman who is found in life - when the time is fulfilled of that condemnation which existed by reason of disobedience, may arise, blended together and strengthened through means of joints and bands Ephesians 4:16 by the increase of God, each of the members having its own proper and fit position in the body. For there are many mansions in the Father's house, John 14:2 inasmuch as there are also many members in the body.”
@sageseraph5035
@sageseraph5035 19 күн бұрын
@@ken440 I sent a quote from Irenaeus that I think explains it well, but basically Christ is a man. The divine Son of God who by his nature is God took on human form and became truly one of us in order that we could become what he is and share in the divine nature. I don’t see it anymore, but the quote was basically the second and third paragraphs of St. Irenaeus Against Heresies Book 3 Chapter 19. Thanks
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 19 күн бұрын
Any "deity of Christ" interpretation of Scripture is a dishonoring, indeed an attempt to eliminate the human person, Jesus of Nazareth. Jesus: "I am a man who told you the truth that I heard from God" (John 8:40). "Father... this is eternal life, that they know you, the only true God, AND Jesus the Christ whom you have sent" (John 17:3) The Apostle Paul: "He (God) desires all men to come to a knowledge of the truth, for there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus". (1 Tim. 2:4-5) There is no mediator other than the man Christ Jesus.
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
@@sageseraph5035 I didnt see it and often "quotes" get scrubbed by youtube AI. Never mind, it would not convince me as i treat all the post apostolic "church fathers" as low grade truth, and I am well aware of what you have pointed out because I was a evangelical trinity accepting christian from my conversion in 1981 till sept 2017 when I got serious about study and checked on my favourite trinity verses by using original language, something we can all now do via internet tools. I realized that these trinity proof verses were being read as props to an already held assumption of theology, that God came and died for man. That these proof texts mostly only work in translated language, especially the english, where modern understanding of english language is forced on ANE language meaning. So local and "whole book" context is critical to interpret the authors meaning. e.g. Heb1:2 in english states that God made the world through Jesus, giving rise to believing Jesus was the agent of creation. Only works in english without local context. The word translated "world" doesnt mean a planet. It is the greek word for "ages" or a period of time. That local context is stated in v1. "in times past..... now in this time" In english it should be read as we see in "being worldly" or "not of this world" (which is also misunderstood as not of this planet but now of heaven) which just means a promise of life in the next age, future. Colossians is also wrongly used to prove Jesus is creator of the cosmos, when used outside of its context. I hope that example gives you pause for thought. Thanks for your concern.
@lunarmoney
@lunarmoney 20 күн бұрын
Dont listen to this heretic
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
did you know that every Protestant is a heretic? According to Jewish authorities at the time, up to present day, Jesus is a heretic!
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
At the time people said what you said about Noah! I would recomend everyone listen to this channel.
@lunarmoney
@lunarmoney 19 күн бұрын
@@ken440 Jesus is God.
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
​@@lunarmoneyJesus is Gods lamb, not God.
@lunarmoney
@lunarmoney 19 күн бұрын
@@ken440 I'd rather just follow the teachings of the bible buddy, not some heresy
@bradleyspencer5440
@bradleyspencer5440 21 күн бұрын
Straight from Jesus’s mouth “before Abraham was, I am.”
@ken440
@ken440 21 күн бұрын
@bradleyspencer5440 I am what? As that was written Jesus is saying he "is something" and if you look at the context of Jn8 its about what pleased Abraham, as they were referring to messiah. Jesus says the same as he did in an earlier chapter when he spoke to the woman at the well. Context messiah. Jesus said "I am (he)" and the word in brackets is because english needs the subject added to the statement, where in greek "ego eimi" is a direct connection of self (ego) to subject (eimi) so in jn8:58 Jesus is saying the exact to greek words "ego eimi" which is translated "I am (he)" in english. Jesus did not speak in capital letters, that is a device of the translators not the original greek. You can easily look this up yourself. Two words "ego eimi." I hope that clears up that old chestnut.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 20 күн бұрын
"I am" is not a name for deity. landandbible.blogspot.com/2023/01/before-abraham-comes-to-be-i-am-did.html
@jknef8293
@jknef8293 19 күн бұрын
@@ken440 It's a pretty simple statement that distinguishes Jesus as God and as existing before, during and after Abraham, He is eternal. If God was appearing in physical form, why would think you'd be able to describe His deity, holiness, and splendor in human words?
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
@@jknef8293 That would be funny if it wasnt so sad. Do a little study instead of relying on what tradition has stated in enthusiastic sermons. There is no statement of "existing" before Abraham in Jn8, other in the sarcasm and trickery of the pharisees who Jesus openly declared were trying to kill him, were trying to trick him and were liars. hmm? Are you siding with them?
@jknef8293
@jknef8293 18 күн бұрын
@@ken440 There are scriptures in the Bible that ascribe the quality of existing outside of the physical realm and having existed before the creation of the universe to God. God is a being that we cannot comprehend, and if you can't understand that God is simultaneously able to hold the universe together from outside it in the heavenly realm, and send Jesus, Himself to live as a human on earth, then that's on you. It seems like you're trying relegate Jesus to His human form instead of recognizing that Jesus existed before creation.
@matthewcook4137
@matthewcook4137 21 күн бұрын
Jesus is God the Son of the Trinity
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 20 күн бұрын
Hi. Is there a place in the Bible where you see "God the Son" mentioned? I find lots of places where the "Son of God" is mentioned, but no "God the Son".
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
so the trinity had a child? does that make the Holy Spirit that childs mother?
@matthewcook4137
@matthewcook4137 21 күн бұрын
Then we forget the Scripture that Jesus says, "I and the Father are one"
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 20 күн бұрын
One in unified purpose: John 17:22: "that they may be one just as we are one"
@user-px6mq6nm4e
@user-px6mq6nm4e 21 күн бұрын
Jesus Christ is God.... Whatever you denied it but The Bible said that Jesus Christ is God Lord, Messiah..
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 21 күн бұрын
God has made Jesus both Lord and Christ. God raised the Lord Jesus from the dead.
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
for a start "Lord" means in charge of something, it doesnt mean God. And "messiah" is hebrew for "anointed." while "christ" is greek for "anointed." And one who is anointed is lesser than the one who anoints. Ergo; Jesus is NOT God, but is Gods anointed one, the messiah promised in Deut18:18.
@ken440
@ken440 19 күн бұрын
Also read Acts2:22 -36. Thats where Peter tells us who Jesus is, and how God has MADE him Lord. When he was raised from the dead.
@nileasintheriver1480
@nileasintheriver1480 18 күн бұрын
​@billschlegel1 ‭John 2:19-21 NASB1995‬ [19] Jesus answered them, “Destroy this temple, and in three days I will raise it up.” [20] The Jews then said, “It took forty-six years to build this temple, and will You raise it up in three days?” [21] But He was speaking of the temple of His body. "I will raise it up again" emphasis on "I", the Lord Jesus said He will resurrect Himself, so yes God (the Son) raised the Lord Jesus from the dead.
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 18 күн бұрын
@@nileasintheriver1480 Hi Niles, the claim that Jesus resurrected himself from the dead is bad theology, bad hermeneutics, contradicts tens of other Scriptures, etc. Even the writer of the Gospel of John did not interpret Jesus statement that way. Just read a couple more verses. landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/04/did-jesus-raise-himself-from-dead-john.html
@neweyz3396
@neweyz3396 21 күн бұрын
Amen Bill , thanks for bringing this to the table Blessings ❤😊
@chobani420
@chobani420 21 күн бұрын
"I and the Father are one", "...those who have received a faith of the same kind as ours, by the righteousness of our God and Savior, Jesus Christ,", "...looking for the blessed hope and the appearing of the glory of our great God and Savior, Christ Jesus,..". There are many more passages that explicitly refer to Christ as God. A quick google search will do if you don't believe me. That second quote is from 2 Peter 1. In the same passage, about ten lines later he refers to Christ as "savior". God, savior, and lord being used to refer to Christ mean that he is God the Son, proceeding from God the Father, coeternal in essence within the Trinity. Do not be deceived. If Christ is not God then what is his ontology in the new testament? Now, you could play the "this translation says this differently therefore he's lord and not God!" game, but the greek word Kyrios (κύριος), greek because this was the language the bible was first written in, can be used to mean God, Lord, or Master linguistically. Christ God our Savior is indeed God. End of story. That's our whole shebang as Christians. God Bless ☦️
@ken440
@ken440 21 күн бұрын
learn to read my friend. Our great God, and our saviour Jesus anointed." Theres two persons here, God the author of the plan of redemption, and the one that God anointed as saviour, the lamb of God, Jesus of Nazareth.
@robertmorabito6393
@robertmorabito6393 21 күн бұрын
@@ken440where is the comma in Greek? It isn’t. In the Latin alphabet it is the following “Theou kai Sōtēros hēmōn Christou.” Without adjusting for the syntax, “God and Savior of us Christ.” Hēmōn is possessive for both Theou and Sōtēros. The verse does not make much sense if you read it as you imply, no verse says the Father is coming “back” or rather coming at all, Christ is the Incarnate God. Christ is coming back, if you read the implication ks sounds like the second coming will have an incarnate Father and Jesus Christ separately and being entirely distinct from one another as if Jesus was a Created Being and is a glorified version of the Davidic King with divine investiture of His person, that doesn’t make sense biblically, 1 Thessalonians 4:13-17 (reading the whole section in any scholarship is helpful) is clear the Lord Jesus Christ is returning, this is who is returning as “great God and Savior” in Titus 2:13. Aside from this, in Colossians 1:19 and 2:9, we are well aware the fullness of deity is in Jesus Christ, Jesus is fully God, not in the sense of some demigod divine authority investiture, but in the true sense. Jesus is also identified as the Lord God in Isaiah 44:6 every time He claims to be Alpha and Omega with the specific association coming in Revelation 1:8, where he is the “Kyrios Theou” as the section quotes Isaiah but Jesus is speaking it in relation to Himself. Jesus Christ is your Creator and the One True God. ✠ God’s Peace ✠
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 21 күн бұрын
God (the Father) and Jesus are one in unified purpose. Compare John 17:22, "that they may be one just as we are one- " On 1 Peter 1, see here: landandbible.blogspot.com/2023/08/does-apostle-peter-call-jesus-christ.html But your points are sort of distractions from the point of this video. In the New Testament, Jesus is "Lord" is not a claim to deity. God raised the Lord Jesus from the dead.
@driller7714
@driller7714 21 күн бұрын
Brother in Christ your second quote is from the book of Titus not second Peter. Referring to the 2Peter 1:1 quote, one must only read 2Peter 1:2 to see the error in your interpretation. The Greek reads as follows. Through the righteousness of the God of us and the savior of us Jesus Christ. Yes there are no commas in Greek. The very next verse reads as such. Grace to you and peace be multiplied in the knowledge of God and Jesus Christ the lord of us. Do you see in the very next verse the differentiation between God and Jesus? That same differentiation is present in the Greek of 2Peter 1:1. The God of us AND the lord of us. For us there is one God the Father AND one lord Jesus Christ. The God of us is not the same person as the lord of us. Trinitarian doctrine itself states that one must not confuse the persons of the trinity but to make this passage work using the trinitarian interpretation that is exactly what one must do. Now let us address the Titus verse you quoted. Titus is a letter from Paul to Titus, a personal letter between two brothers in Christ who understood who God was and who their messiah was. In this same letter we have a very similar phrase. Please look at Titus 1:4. Grace and peace from God the Father and Christ Jesus our savior. In fact, throughout this letter and all of the New Testament Paul and the other apostles constantly differentiate between God the Father and our lord Jesus Christ, even going so far as to call God the Father the God of our lord Jesus Christ in multiple occasions. There is only one God my friend, that one God has to be Jesus Christs God. There is no other God. God the Father and God the son or God the Father and God Jesus Christ doesn’t exist in scripture because that would mean there are two Gods. The apostles had one God the Father and their writings attest to that. Regarding savior. Who is the savior of the Israelites from the land of Egypt? Was it Moses or was it God? Both are called the savior. God is the ultimate savior. He did his works through the man Moses. The same can be said for Jesus. Jesus himself said the works are not mine. Whose works are they? Gods works. The works of his God and Father. Jesus himself tells you so. God bless.
@chobani420
@chobani420 21 күн бұрын
​@@ken440Did you not read a single quote I dropped? Or do you not think they're in the Bible? Christ is called God far too many times to play these semantic games and strip him of his deification and blaspheme foolishly. You, my gold sir, need some reading lessons
@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel
@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel 21 күн бұрын
Jesus is the lord messiah, not Lord God. Or as the Psalmist put it he is ‘adoni’ (the lord of me) not Adonai (Lord God) or The LORD (יהוה).
@katiewarner883
@katiewarner883 13 күн бұрын
Amen
@edwardok2799
@edwardok2799 21 күн бұрын
Long live Christ the King true Man and true God❤
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 21 күн бұрын
Sorry to put it this way, but I think your Jesus is non-binary.
@Patrick-nh8em
@Patrick-nh8em 17 күн бұрын
Amen!🙏
@elimason7954
@elimason7954 22 күн бұрын
Did any of Jesus contemporaries call Jesus Yahweh?
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 22 күн бұрын
Yeah, imagine that! However, Jesus: "I am a man who told you the truth that I heard from God" (John8:40) Others: "Blessed is he (the King of Israel) who comes in the name of YHVH!"
@austinwthompson45
@austinwthompson45 20 күн бұрын
​@@billschlegel1yeah. What do you think of John 10:30's "I and the Father are one"?. Or perhaps when Jesus uses the name "I AM" in John 8:58 which is a name only the Father used beforehand in Exodus to Moses?
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 19 күн бұрын
@@austinwthompson45 Short answers: One in unity of purpose. Even John Calvin knew that. Listen to Jesus: "that they may be one just as we are one (Joh 17:22). John 8:58 - "I am" is not a title for deity. And, Jesus was making a statement about who he was at the time of his speaking, before Abraham comes to be. That is, before God's promises to Abraham are fulfilled, and Abraham is resurrected from the dead. For longer answers: landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/01/what-did-jesus-mean-when-he-said-in.html kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3aQqnR5fM5pb9U
@austinwthompson45
@austinwthompson45 16 күн бұрын
@@billschlegel1 No, Jesus knew exactly what He was doing in that statement. The Jews knew it too and stoned Him for it. Let's not even go over when Jesus accepted worship and blessed a man for praising Him as "My Lord and My God"
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 16 күн бұрын
@@austinwthompson45 Let's not forget that the God which Jesus told Thomas was at work in Jesus was the Father. John 14:6-20 and, here: landandbible.blogspot.com/2019/12/my-lord-and-my-god-trinitarians-get-it.html
@elimason7954
@elimason7954 22 күн бұрын
I agree with you Faithful. Jesus's will say to some: "Go away from me I never knew you." He doesn't say: "Go away from me you had the wrong theology." Jesus criteria is personal not theological.
@dustinpotter8312
@dustinpotter8312 22 күн бұрын
John 1:1-3 “In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God. 2) The same was in the beginning with God. 3) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.” 1 John 5:7 "For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
@ken440
@ken440 21 күн бұрын
yes Gods word spoke of the redemption of man Gen3:15. God made everything by His word, it says so in various places in Gods word, from the beginning. God spoke it into being. Gods word was Gods full intention, His very essence was His spoken word, He meant what He said and said what He meant completely, His word was Him and He was His word. His word was repeated, inscribed, recorded and written. In Deut18:18 in His word, He promised that one of their brethren, a jewish man, would be the great one, and God would speak through this great one. A messiah (anointed man). Is that what you are saying?
@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel
@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel 21 күн бұрын
1 John 5:7 doesn’t appear in any manuscripts until about the 14th century (more than 1000 years after Christ). It likely made it into the Latin bible versions due to a scribal note in the margin. I.e a human with no biblical authority put a note in the margin of a copy of scripture and that later erroneously made it into translations like the KJV. 1 John 5:7 was definitely not a part of the original text of 1 John, we have ample complete manuscripts without it. Complete as in its absence isn’t due to damage or ink fading, it’s simply not there, no missing space, it was not a part of the original inspired text.
@neweyz3396
@neweyz3396 21 күн бұрын
The Father Is the INVISIBLE WORD & His Holy Spirit is His Power that He uses & Sends Forth ! In the Beginning was the Word and the Word was with God & the Word ( WAS God ) No mention of Jesus Christ in this verse at all the writer was talking about who the LORD God IS Not His Son Jesus Christ ! Do you hear Jesus’s Name mentioned at all in this verse ? NO ! This is who the LORD God IS Only ! It’s men who CHANGED that Scripture to fit their Trinitarian Doctrine & you say & choose to believe is ! God is Always the Invisible Ghost who has His Words within His Invisible Self & His Holy Spirit is His POWER that He Sends forth from within His Invisible Self , This is Who the LORD God IS ! Amen ! Not Jesus Christ
@user-px6mq6nm4e
@user-px6mq6nm4e 21 күн бұрын
​@@TheDoctrineDetectiveChannel Where is your proofs
@billschlegel1
@billschlegel1 21 күн бұрын
Hi. Although intentionally parallel, John's beginning is a different beginning from Genesis beginning. landandbible.blogspot.com/2020/02/john-11-beginning-of-gods-new-creation.html
@animatednostalgia5034
@animatednostalgia5034 22 күн бұрын
Yes, Ephesians 1:17 clearly shows this Ephesians 1:17 KJV That the God of our Lord Jesus Christ, the Father of glory, may give unto you the spirit of wisdom and revelation in the knowledge of him: It wouldn't make sense for Paul to say the God of our God Jesus Christ. He uses Lord for Jesus to distinguish Jesus from God. Similar to how king David was called lord, but king David wasn't the LORD God. The LORD God was the God of king David. 1 Kings 1:36-37 KJV And Benaiah the son of Jehoiada answered the king, and said, Amen: the LORD God of my lord the king say so too. [37] As the LORD hath been with my lord the king, even so be he with Solomon, and make his throne greater than the throne of my lord king David.
@animatednostalgia5034
@animatednostalgia5034 22 күн бұрын
Amen 🙌
@JacobSilverdal
@JacobSilverdal 22 күн бұрын
Amen brother!
@klezper
@klezper 22 күн бұрын
It's obvious that Jesus was gay. Hanging around with 12 men in dresses for three years. But that is not the problem. The christian thing was more of a problem. Why? God does not exist, or if he does, he is a gay hating, war mongering sexist piece of sh1t.