Where Liberal Christianity Leads

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anything unfamiliar to us can make us uncomfortable. If you’re out of shape, exercising is an unfamiliar discomfort. If you’re ignorant, education can be an unfamiliar discomfort - you get the idea.
Growing in your understanding of the truth necessarily means being introduced to the unfamiliar and because it’s unfamiliar, it will be difficult to navigate and negotiate which will feel like a struggle. Take going to a new place, like a new school or a new office building and trying to find your way around. That can expose you, make you vulnerable, and strip you of your self-sufficiency.
And if Christianity is true, which if you’re a Christian I assume we can find some agreement there, and if you and I still need to grow in the truth - as in we haven’t learned everything there is to learn yet, then, by definition, the Christian creed and disciplines should make us uncomfortable.
As we learn about it and as we practice it, it should follow that same pattern of resistance towards something good that will make us better as we push back against it.
So we shouldn’t be surprised if, as we study and practice the faith, we encounter teachings and practices that make us uncomfortable. If they didn’t, they wouldn’t be true because this is what the truth does to those who are not fully conformed to it.
So to be a Christian means to persist, always, in that discomfort. As soon as you’ve adapted to some teaching or practice, you should move on to applying the next one that remains unfamiliar to you. It’s a constant exercise of discipleship in the new and unfamiliar.
But in realizing this, we might arrive at a temptation which promises all that we want in pursuit of the truth, but with none of the adversity. We might call this liberal Christianity.
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[@danielhixon8209]

I have a video coming out in a few weeks that makes the simple point: if the bishops, teachers, and stewards of the tradition don’t believe this stuff, if they feel the need to change it to accommodate the culture, why would an outsider or an atheist bother to give it a second glance? If the stewards of the tradition have no confidence in the tradition, why should anyone else?

[@tubaceous]

Stewarts of tradition who work to undermine it can be likened to government officials who work for the enemy. It is called treason. They must be deposed and punished!

[@simonskinner1450]

Why bother? Good point. But the answer is to find the truth and the first truth for this religion is that grace is merited. I have a Ytube video series 'Myths in so-called Christianity', and have 27 videos to date which expose falsehoods in this religion, and my first video was on grace being unmerited which is a myth. You may find my videos interesting.

[@TheRealShrike]

Maybe they feel a need to change it to accommodate new information and new evidence. That, my friend, is called growth.

[@simonskinner1450]

@@TheRealShrike I see we agree as I have that new information to expose the Myths in so-called Christianity. The tradition was started over 300 years after the NT, which holds the truth, and now I can realign the religion of Abraham to Jesus.

[@tubaceous]

@@TheRealShrike if they have ‘new’ evidence, they should present it, no?

[@timrichardson4018]

I've been watching you for years. And I'm coming into the Church this Easter Vigil, thanks in no small part to your work. Thank you!

[@Trumporkennedy]

The Jesuits use the 3 city corp to control the world. They use the US military to bring any country that disobeys the Jesuit General into submission. The Jesuits use and control CIA NSA etc to spy for them. They use London to control the money via the Rothchild's and the Vatican is the control religious arm. The VATICAN Jesuits control all intelligence agencies, governments, banks, press, media, Hollywood, music industry, militaries, and world systems! The Vatican Jesuit Superior General controls both political parties, and they have them play out their roles to cause Americans to be caught up in the political narrative, instead of seeing The Wizard of Oz, who is behind the curtain and controls it all, the Vatican Jesuit Superior General. The Jesuits have built many schools in the USA, which allows them to form the minds of students and to select people to use for their agenda. Today the Jesuits maintain 60 secondary schools and 28 colleges and universities in the United States alone. More than 50 percent of Jesuit institutions in the U.S. are more than 100 years old. Clinton graduated from Georgetown University. Trump attended Fordham University. Two of Trump's children graduated from Georgetown University. They fill the media with stories of the battle between left and right so that Americans are distracted and divided. They're causing emotions to run high on both sides, pitting Americans against each other so that they don't realize who is their collective enemy. Today, the USA government is filled with people who were trained at Jesuit schools. Catholics rule D.C., as we see with Joe Biden, John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi, Mike Pence, Rudy Giuliani, etc. The Supreme Court is now stacked with Catholics in Chief Justice John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Protestant Christians think that they're well-represented, but fail to understand who the enemy is. There are so many Christians who want to deny the end is here. Or they just don't know prophecy. rumble.com/v2cfh72-donald-trumps-oath-to-the-nwo.-watch-till-the-end.html

[@anthonyscheibmeir2444]

Welcome! May God bless your soul.

[@gerddonni2017]

❤ Very warm welcome! 🎉

[@johnharkness6304]

The greatest adventure we can experience in this world, excellent decision, from a lifelong Catholic. I usually advise, find a good faithful Pastor, N.O liturgy with the reverence and respect that the Blessed Sacrament deserves, or if it's within reasonable distance, the pre 70s Liturgy is magnificent. Welcome.

[@RickW-HGWT]

Welcome home ! find a good traditional parish or Eastern Rite for fellowship and further growth in the faith , God bless.

[@themirrorflattersnot]

You nailed it, man. You don’t reform the Truth, you conform to it.

[@simonskinner1450]

But first you must find the truth which obviously eludes 'Christianity' as we find a diverse range of denominations with many truths. I have a Ytube video series called 'Myths in so-called Christianity' in which I expose false doctrine that is ingrained in this religion, with 27 videos that should interest you.

[@foodmaniac9339]

​@@simonskinner1450you.😂

[@simonskinner1450]

@@foodmaniac9339 Remember Paul's gospel salvation is not written to Christians or Christianity, only Jews and Gentiles who are called to be saints.

[@foodmaniac9339]

@@simonskinner1450 lol 😂. I'm dying laughing looking at your knowledge. Maybe you think with your small head rather than the big head.

[@simonskinner1450]

@@foodmaniac9339 I know the truth.

[@ThroughTheLensOfAutism]

All Christians should remember the place of all inclusions, thank you Brian.

[@joanl.7543]

That was a very good and unique point. The mania for "inclusion" leads to emptiness and frustration, since we can't come together with any common beliefs or qualities.

[@HasanUnknown]

Islam is the religion who makes us to Believe in Jesus, We Muslims 100% Believes in Jesus, We Muslims Believes that Jesus is the Christ, We Muslims Believes that Jesus will Come Again to this World, Jesus did Miracles by the Permission of Allah, Jesus himself Never said “Im God” also Never he said anyone to “Worship Me” Jesus was Just a Prophet and Messenger Of Allah Only to Guide The People of Israel, ----------------------- *Jesus Denies Being God* | Read ⬇️ ----------------------- "My Father is greater than me." [John 14:28] “I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to My God and your God.” [John 20:17] “Jesus said: 'Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God, the Lord is one.” [Mark 12:29] “Jesus, Fell with his face to the ground and Prayed.” [Matthew 26:39] “Jesus said, “My teaching is not my own, It comes from the one who has sent me.” [John 7:16] “I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgement is just because I seek not my own will, but the will of the Father who has sent me." [John 5:30] “The crowd answered, This is Jesus, the Prophet.” [Matthew 21:10-11] --------------------- *The Coming Of Prophet Muhammad In Bible* --------------------- “I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. When he the Spirit of truth comes, he will guide you into all the truth, for he will not speak on his own authority, but whatever he hears he will speak, and he will declare to you the things that are to come, He will glorify me, for he will take what is mine and declare it to you.” [John 16:12-14] --------------------- *Allah Clears About Jesus* --------------------- [Quran:- 5:72]:- “Jesus has said, "O Children of Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." [Quran:- 19:30]:- “Jesus has said, "Indeed, I am the servant of Allah. He has given me the Scripture and made me a Prophet.” [Quran:- 4:171]:- “Christ Jesus the son of Mary was no more than a messenger of Allah, So believe in Allah and His messengers. Say not "Trinity" desist: it will be better for you: for Allah is one Allah: ---------------------

[@tiagorodrigues3730]

​@AG I'm fairly sure he's referring to Brian's comment starting at 6:40, which is exactly about Hell, as you were able to abduce. I'm not sure why you seemingly felt the need to berate him for being “unclear,” though-it seemed clear enough to anyone who watched up to that point.

[@joanl.7543]

"Progressivism will hollow out your religion and wear its skin as a trophy".

[@jonatand2045]

Nice. And with the advent of more advanced technologies, the last uses religion had will disappear because it will be possible to edit the human condition itself.

[@petergreen8477]

A wise Christian said to me many years ago - and it has replayed in my mind ever since, “You must allow yourself to be broken by the tradition”.

[@jonatand2045]

And then science comes and breaks tradition, setting man free.

[@JC-qb3wx]

​@@jonatand2045 Science explains how things happen, but it can never answer why. There is no coflict between religion and science.

[@jonatand2045]

@@JC-qb3wx But religion also claims things that can't happen happened. It claims that tradition was revealed by god, which would require physical violations, like the story of Jesus or a burning bush that talks.

[@jonatand2045]

@A. Nonymous It sets man free from superstition, is that not enough?

[@jonatand2045]

@A. Nonymous It's not one study that proves religion is superstition, it is the scientific concensus based who knows how many papers that contradicts religion. Let's be real, the bible has plants created before the sun. Do you need a paper to figure what's wrong with that? And then there are plot holes like Satan being created despite god knowing his design would inevitably disobey him.

[@mrdeeds72]

Great points. The Church does not confirm itself to the world. We must repent and be free from sins and be in communion with Christ and his Church.

[@loveandmercy9664]

True! Its complicated because now we are now in a post-Christian culture. As Tom Holland brilliantly pointed out in his book Dominion most of the secular cultures ambitions and criticism are themselves rooted in Christianity.

[@myleshagar9722]

@@michaelhowington4205 I need the most kick ass.

[@briceidycierramarrujosmith4563]

@@loveandmercy9664 No they are not. Christianity & Christians as a whole need to stop trying to insert themselves where they are not wanted.

[@jasmadams]

Joss Whedon, an atheist, put these words into the mouth of the character Book (a Shepherd, or Priest) in his show Firefly: "You don't fix faith, River. It fixes you." If he gets it, how do bishops and cardinals not get it?

[@stephencuskley5251]

Woah! You just gave me a complete, fundamental shift in my outlook about how to approach the Christian life and life in general. You're right. It's not about arriving at a place of peace, serenity, satisfaction and ease next week. It's about continuously putting in tha effort to increase our strength. But the most important thing for me is that I now see the rest of my life as a journey of continuous improvement. I've never heard anyone point out what you have in this video with such clarity and depth. Sure, there are lots of good, faithful Catholics who already know and live by what you say here, but for those of us still fumbling around in the dark, IT'S A REALLY IMPORTANT MESSAGE. I get it. We don't arrive until we arrive in heaven. Thank you and God bless you and your family.

[@zygmuntkonstancinski2518]

Thank you. Your conclusion that the only place where "inclusion is total is hell" is brilliant. Thanks.

[@lukebrown5395]

I’ve said it a billion times you can’t compromise Christ. There’s no in between.

[@jonatand2045]

Until you find out Christ was just another man whose myth appeared after his death and spread like other myths before amd after. There is no proof of his physics violating miracles and the story of god forgiving the sins he declared sins doesn't make sense.

[@crazyedswonderfulworldofso9370]

I do not find that it is always a struggle or strain with lots of friction and distress. Most times I find that when I delve into a Catholic Truth I am not clear on and discover it, it only brings me deeper into the faith and this journey usually gives me a spiritual high.

[@tiagorodrigues3730]

The struggle and strain is due to our facing the reality of our shortcomings; we do not like to contemplate the ways we are short of God's plan for us. Some have the humility to accept it gladly; but for most it is quite painful, which is why they try to run away from it.

[@vinnyfrancone3567]

You hit a home run. Great vid

[@seanbyers6736]

FWIW, I have a sister-in-law who’s been really struggling of late, her faith being a component part of that. Long story short, like many other people her age (Gen Z), she found the NO/post-V2 liberal “Christian” movement wholly unsatisfactory and unconvincing. But she recently shared with us that she started going to TLM on some Sundays when she could and that she really enjoyed it. The peace and relief she expressed was palpable. Unsurprisingly, although sadly, she received no shortage of resistance and ridicule from her family for preferring it to the local NO parish they attend. Time to pack in it, boomers. No offense, but you had your time. But if you actually and genuinely care about your children being and staying Catholic, you need to support them and maybe, just maybe, start to ask yourself why the younger generation is more attracted to tradition than whatever the “spirit of V2” has to offer.

[@kengrlffin5921]

What do TLM and NO mean?

[@seanbyers6736]

@@kengrlffin5921 TLM: Traditional Latin Mass NO: Novus Ordo

[@foxbat252]

Speaking as a liberal Christian, in liberal Christianity the goal of finding the truth is more important than the goal of being uncomfortable. It's all well and good to have uncomfortable beliefs, but we should avoid uncomfortable false beliefs.

[@TheRealShrike]

Excellent point, yes.

[@heathsavage4852]

Excellent observations, succinctly delivered. Refreshing and exciting to hear. Thank you.

[@colleenfrance]

Brian nails it again. Thank you!

[@Trumporkennedy]

The Jesuits use the 3 city corp to control the world. They use the US military to bring any country that disobeys the Jesuit General into submission. The Jesuits use and control CIA NSA etc to spy for them. They use London to control the money via the Rothchild's and the Vatican is the control religious arm. The VATICAN Jesuits control all intelligence agencies, governments, banks, press, media, Hollywood, music industry, militaries, and world systems! The Vatican Jesuit Superior General controls both political parties, and they have them play out their roles to cause Americans to be caught up in the political narrative, instead of seeing The Wizard of Oz, who is behind the curtain and controls it all, the Vatican Jesuit Superior General. The Jesuits have built many schools in the USA, which allows them to form the minds of students and to select people to use for their agenda. Today the Jesuits maintain 60 secondary schools and 28 colleges and universities in the United States alone. More than 50 percent of Jesuit institutions in the U.S. are more than 100 years old. Clinton graduated from Georgetown University. Trump attended Fordham University. Two of Trump's children graduated from Georgetown University. They fill the media with stories of the battle between left and right so that Americans are distracted and divided. They're causing emotions to run high on both sides, pitting Americans against each other so that they don't realize who is their collective enemy. Today, the USA government is filled with people who were trained at Jesuit schools. Catholics rule D.C., as we see with Joe Biden, John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi, Mike Pence, Rudy Giuliani, etc. The Supreme Court is now stacked with Catholics in Chief Justice John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Protestant Christians think that they're well-represented, but fail to understand who the enemy is. There are so many Christians who want to deny the end is here. Or they just don't know prophecy. rumble.com/v2cfh72-donald-trumps-oath-to-the-nwo.-watch-till-the-end.html

[@neverclevernorwitty7821]

Well stated Brian as usual. Nice job.

[@Outrider74]

As a general rule, I do not attribute good intentions to those who attempt to bring modernism into Christianity... at all. Because Scripture does not seem to give them the benefit of the doubt regarding their intentions.

[@jonatand2045]

Thankfully the scripture is fully manmade, so we don't have to care about what it says. You may think your scripture is special, but jews think the torah is special and muslims the quran. There is no evidence for any of them.

[@ModernMozart1104]

Protestant here. Really enjoying your videos. Can you give a list of the "places where liberal Christianity has been tried." thanks brian!

[@DallasNoTex]

Excellent video, Brian. I was driving when I was listening to this, and your point about hell being the most inclusive place almost made me pull off the road because that was such a great point.

[@joksal9108]

The truth will set you free-but first it will wound. The wounds bring healing. They must not be avoided.

[@miguelsalazar1602]

Wow! This is a very good analysis of Church stance on all new crazy ideologies. All Christian churches that have adopted "woke" or all-inclusive ideologies have seen their memberships and attendance drop significantly (take the Church of England as a prime example). You don't "adapt" the truth to your taste. You accept and walk towards the truth.

[@XereNak]

Brian drops the mic ❤

[@MNkno]

Thank you -- we need to remember that we are working out our salvation, day by day, and what we need to do is not meant to be in our comfort zone. Respecting the dignity and humanity of every other person may be difficult, but respecting their dignity does not mean adopting their solutions, agenda, slogans, or practices: we also have the right to our dignity. No one would go to a pharmacist to get their car repaired, but while the car is being repaired, the pharmacist may look over the medications you are taking and give you very good advice on which ones would interfere with safe driving, or suggest other practices for solving your problems (not taking caffine pills, but supplements that may help you get more/better sleep).

[@TheRealShrike]

Except that Christianity is not supposed to be about "working out your own salvation," is it?

[@layanglayang8255]

Thank you Brian, so encouraging.

[@MyNameIsCain]

I didn't realize the prince of peace was so opposed to the idea of all being welcome, that his sacrifice was only intended for a chosen few.

[@rubenmartinez4346]

Sounds like you’re speaking of Vatican II without mentioning Vatican II.

[@donm-tv8cm]

Well you sure knocked that one out of the park. Amen!

[@nephiindustries]

Thank you Brian!! Helpful words!

[@Bob.W.]

Good one! Thx.

[@ricardoheredia7307]

WELL SAID!!!!!!!👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊🕊

[@zzzaaayyynnn]

Powerful message, Brian. You have become stronger and wiser over the years. Thanks for speaking the truth for love of Christ.

[@thomasbond629]

Amen amen. Thank you Brian

[@anti-monopolymorediversity]

Create 450 new religions Against the monopoly of the 5 major religions

[@MikePasqqsaPekiM]

So well put. We just have to be careful to acknowledge that some people are going down the road of liberal Christianity because of ignorance. As you so well put, it’s human nature to shy away from information and communities that may make us uncomfortable. People born into an echo chamber of liberal Christianity look upon Christians striving to be faithful to the teachings of church, see the exertion and work, and sometimes recoil in horror. But you hit the nail on the head. An unwillingness to repent or reform means that they want the church to repent and reform. And the church simply cannot repent from holiness or striving towards it.

[@Trumporkennedy]

The Jesuits use the 3 city corp to control the world. They use the US military to bring any country that disobeys the Jesuit General into submission. The Jesuits use and control CIA NSA etc to spy for them. They use London to control the money via the Rothchild's and the Vatican is the control religious arm. The VATICAN Jesuits control all intelligence agencies, governments, banks, press, media, Hollywood, music industry, militaries, and world systems! The Vatican Jesuit Superior General controls both political parties, and they have them play out their roles to cause Americans to be caught up in the political narrative, instead of seeing The Wizard of Oz, who is behind the curtain and controls it all, the Vatican Jesuit Superior General. The Jesuits have built many schools in the USA, which allows them to form the minds of students and to select people to use for their agenda. Today the Jesuits maintain 60 secondary schools and 28 colleges and universities in the United States alone. More than 50 percent of Jesuit institutions in the U.S. are more than 100 years old. Clinton graduated from Georgetown University. Trump attended Fordham University. Two of Trump's children graduated from Georgetown University. They fill the media with stories of the battle between left and right so that Americans are distracted and divided. They're causing emotions to run high on both sides, pitting Americans against each other so that they don't realize who is their collective enemy. Today, the USA government is filled with people who were trained at Jesuit schools. Catholics rule D.C., as we see with Joe Biden, John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi, Mike Pence, Rudy Giuliani, etc. The Supreme Court is now stacked with Catholics in Chief Justice John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Protestant Christians think that they're well-represented, but fail to understand who the enemy is. There are so many Christians who want to deny the end is here. Or they just don't know prophecy. rumble.com/v2cfh72-donald-trumps-oath-to-the-nwo.-watch-till-the-end.html

[@johnpglackin345]

Most liberal "Catholics" know what they are doing. We need to confront them and minimize their influence in the Church.

[@erikbunty2016]

God is not, never was, nor will he ever be, politically correct.

[@carolynkimberly4021]

Hell welcomes everyone! Good one

[@TheZagnut69]

Yes, judicious discrimination for sin & evil with the opportunity for reconciliation and mercy. Inclusivity for “all” who repent and give those things up. Not inclusivity of “anyone” to the exclusion of every good discriminatory moral doctrine the church has held for centuries. Everyone will be “included” if they follow a few simple, but difficult, rules.

[@SouthernHiker]

Amen brother

[@draguigirl8388]

So true!!! That's why I love the Roman rite. I was just baptized over the Easter Vigil. Thanks be to God.❤️🙏🏻

[@TnOrchidguy]

Thank you, brother, thank you.

[@kevintracey8062]

Very good video, thanks.

[@matthewdboyles]

Excellent commentary

[@AveChristusRex]

Absolutely on point.

[@alfadas1443]

Who can tell me something about the beautiful look of this video? The camera, settings, lens, filter-anything that you know. I'm curious to learn. Technology used to make me quite uncomfortable because I'm unfamiliar with it. I used to think there was something beautiful or romantic about having memories without pictures, having real conversations instead of watching videos, so I didn't usually take pictures or videos. But of course, there are beautiful videos to see, and I have come to regret not taking a picture of someone I love who has passed away. That's why I have decided to embrace the new and unfamiliar and withhold judgment whether I like it or not until I give it an honest try.

[@maciejpieczula631]

You are right. Real growth only comes through a struggle. Which is why we shouldn't despair at the current state of the Church, bad as it is, because at the end of the current crisis will come a great blossoming. However, this does not mean we should be content with doing nothing. The Church will be renewed by those who will one day be recognized as Saints. And becoming a Saint is no easy task. And after that renewal and blossoming there will be another crisis in the Church that will once again need future Saints. Perhaps through this struggle we will finally see the proper implementation of Vatican 2.

[@kathrynhockenberry5286]

Well put! Amen!

[@rev.fr.spyridonchiones3963]

So true !

[@joannaoliver-petty6860]

Well said!

[@CapitolPilot]

Hey Brian, do you have any thoughts on what is happening in Catholic Germany right now?

[@brianfarley926]

Waiting on Pope Francis to discipline. He’s got no problem going after conservatives so interested to see what he will do here or if he will cave.

[@Corolla97ww]

Great insight, Brian.

[@reformedstoic1581]

Thank you, God bless.

[@theshipmasterbanished3902]

Some people won't accept Jesus cause it doesn't fit their view and walking with the path to Jesus will be the hardest, but Jesus will never leave you alone and will always be with you and will be there once you cross the finish line.

[@markgriffiths5289]

Thanks for that 👍

[@john-qz3fu]

thank you

[@nereb100]

Thanks, brother. I wish the german bishops would here your words

[@antoniomoyal]

Really smart looks!

[@challengable]

It’s great to see/ be alive in, our time. The drama of truth playing out. All of my favorite movies/ songs/ music used this theme for art. You have the know it alls, who accuse opponents of being know it alls, the rigid doing the same thing. Personally, I think we are being spiritually chastised by our Heavenly Father. And as we expect our children to respond appropriately to our correction of them, we should bend our knees, bend our backs, bend our necks to the truth revealed by Christ and his one and only Holy Church. I converted in 2003, 20 years ago in a few days. After 15 years of NO/ liberal social justice, environmental stewardship, illegal immigration apologies, I found the TLM at a local SSPX seminary. I think I went to 4 or 5 NO after that. Only the TLM cuts through the fog of liberalism planted in my faith. You want to move into obedience with the Father? As well as His crucified/ resurrected Son? Also let’s not forget the Holy Ghost,,,, attend only the TLM. We talk about saving souls, not accommodating illegal aliens to break our laws.

[@albertfuertes2794]

Today people is so spiritually mediocre and coward that they literally panic when they are confronted with anything that might take them out of their comfort zone. This “anything “ is theTruth. They run as hell as soon as they smell it.

[@KingCatsTube]

Thanks for making this video Brian, spot-on, when we look at the devastation caused by very Left leaning Protestant denominations, the church of Woke, and those same forces in the Catholic Church we are provided with a good example of what the outcome will be.

[@roberteaston6413]

In 2018 both the Anglican Church of Canada and the United Church of Canada admitted that based on current trends they will cease to exist by 2040. I am an evangelical Christian but I have to admit that the Roman Catholic Church will outlast liberal Protestant denominations because a faithful Catholic believes that by attending mass he/she is participating in something that they cannot get elsewhere. The failure of liberal churches is that they cannot offer anything unique. Hopefully evangelical churches can be led by the Holy Spirit to present the saving power of Christ.

[@technoloverish]

When you say "woke", is that meant be dogwhistle at Jewish people?

[@joelpenley9791]

Such great observations. In my own spiritual journey, I can reflect and confirm exactly what you said. I have always sought the truth, which is why I went from being an agnostic to a Catholic. But over the last 20 years I have slowly continued to grow into my faith. God willing, I will continue to be challenged and not reject but grow from them.

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

I considered Catholicism. Then I studied history. Sorry, can’t be on that team. Godspeed

[@joelpenley9791]

@@JudasMaccabeus1 weird because I also have studied history and from what I found, it proves the Catholic Church is the one church founded by Christ. Why do you think history says the opposite?

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

@@joelpenley9791 “History proves that the Catholic Church is the *one* church founded by Christ.” No, my friend. History doesn’t infer that, Catholic theology infers that. And for you to suggest something so nonsensical reveals you haven’t actually studied history. Theology and history, while having certain shared components and undercurrents, are not the same. I could write a big long comment and expound upon all the many facets of history and historiography, to be more precise, that render your comment invalid, but it would be pointless; you’re Christian, so your going to keep the information and ideas that support your faith and discard the ones that don’t. There’s many different flavors of Christianity. And they all say they are the “true Church.” Catholicism was definitely the first to consolidate power in a way that allowed them to have power over scriptures and canonization processes, but that doesn’t “prove” that they are the “one true church” it just proves that they were the first and most organized sect of Christianity.

[@joelpenley9791]

@@JudasMaccabeus1 classic, you claim to know the history but conveniently don’t want to type it out because you assume bad motives on my part. Ironic. What facts do you want to discuss? Jesus Christ was a real person who died by crucifixion. He had apostles who testified that he rose from the dead. Those apostles preached this message and became know as Christians (by the church in Antioch). Those Christian’s became known as Catholic by at least 110 AD as documented by Ignatius of Antioch (he was the 3rd bishop of the church in Antioch, Peter the Apostle having founded that church). All early Christians looked to the church in Rome for authority. This is evidenced by Clements letter to the Corinthians, Clement being the 4th pope. Shall I keep going? What year in church history would you like to discuss?

[@JudasMaccabeus1]

@@joelpenley9791 Thanks for outlining the standard early Catholic history 101. Spoken like a true Christian only looking at history from one angle, the Christian angle. We have apostles that *claimed* he rose from the dead. And the gospels were not written by the apostles. So what we have is second hand stories, written many years after the fact, making claims. We don’t even know who wrote the gospels, besides Paul. Paul never met Jesus, he only *claimed* that Jesus appeared to him. None of this is history. It’s theology. You can’t use the Bible to verify the Bible, in a historical sense. We know certain events that happened, as you said, but none of those events provides evidence for resurrection or the validity of Christianity. It’s merely evidence of Christianity existing at a certain time period. Christ was dead long before the Catholic Church was established. The Church was founded using Jesus life as propaganda and to give credibility to the religion as a means to separate itself from Judaism and attract gentile converts. So, “Jesus” did not establish or promote the Catholic Church. That was done by men who never met him long after his death. Did Jesus place that big stupid hat on the Popes head and give him the power over life and death of all other Christians? Of course he didn’t. Men extrapolated from the Bible what they wanted to extrapolate for their own purposes. Did Jesus, in 1096, command the Crusaders to take back Jerusalem? Or to murder countless Jews in the Rhineland on the way? I know the pope at the time, Innocent III I believe, prohibited violence against the Jews, but still. Jesus didn’t command the crusades, man did. In Tolouse in the 13th century, did Jesus command the pope to burn heretics? Catholicism laid the foundation through exclusivist theology. Not Jesus. When church hierarchy was covering up sex crimes was that Jesus? You and both know that’s not a road we want to go down. Catholic history is chalk full of evil. To claim, as an institution, it represents “the body of Christ” is to suggest Christ was evil and flawed.

[@alexanderpodgorski5449]

Exactly!

[@norala-gx9ld]

“Hell is a DEI training.”

[@hludvig_tradicionalista]

The new style suits you!!!

[@Trumporkennedy]

The Jesuits use the 3 city corp to control the world. They use the US military to bring any country that disobeys the Jesuit General into submission. The Jesuits use and control CIA NSA etc to spy for them. They use London to control the money via the Rothchild's and the Vatican is the control religious arm. The VATICAN Jesuits control all intelligence agencies, governments, banks, press, media, Hollywood, music industry, militaries, and world systems! The Vatican Jesuit Superior General controls both political parties, and they have them play out their roles to cause Americans to be caught up in the political narrative, instead of seeing The Wizard of Oz, who is behind the curtain and controls it all, the Vatican Jesuit Superior General. The Jesuits have built many schools in the USA, which allows them to form the minds of students and to select people to use for their agenda. Today the Jesuits maintain 60 secondary schools and 28 colleges and universities in the United States alone. More than 50 percent of Jesuit institutions in the U.S. are more than 100 years old. Clinton graduated from Georgetown University. Trump attended Fordham University. Two of Trump's children graduated from Georgetown University. They fill the media with stories of the battle between left and right so that Americans are distracted and divided. They're causing emotions to run high on both sides, pitting Americans against each other so that they don't realize who is their collective enemy. Today, the USA government is filled with people who were trained at Jesuit schools. Catholics rule D.C., as we see with Joe Biden, John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi, Mike Pence, Rudy Giuliani, etc. The Supreme Court is now stacked with Catholics in Chief Justice John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Protestant Christians think that they're well-represented, but fail to understand who the enemy is. There are so many Christians who want to deny the end is here. Or they just don't know prophecy. rumble.com/v2cfh72-donald-trumps-oath-to-the-nwo.-watch-till-the-end.html

[@joemeehan2056]

The catechism is a great resource for catholics. It is thorough. The teachings are clear. Questions only arise when we search for a way around one we do not like. The real challenge is applying what has been revealed to us by God consistantly in our day to day life.

[@Trumporkennedy]

The Jesuits use the 3 city corp to control the world. They use the US military to bring any country that disobeys the Jesuit General into submission. The Jesuits use and control CIA NSA etc to spy for them. They use London to control the money via the Rothchild's and the Vatican is the control religious arm. The VATICAN Jesuits control all intelligence agencies, governments, banks, press, media, Hollywood, music industry, militaries, and world systems! The Vatican Jesuit Superior General controls both political parties, and they have them play out their roles to cause Americans to be caught up in the political narrative, instead of seeing The Wizard of Oz, who is behind the curtain and controls it all, the Vatican Jesuit Superior General. The Jesuits have built many schools in the USA, which allows them to form the minds of students and to select people to use for their agenda. Today the Jesuits maintain 60 secondary schools and 28 colleges and universities in the United States alone. More than 50 percent of Jesuit institutions in the U.S. are more than 100 years old. Clinton graduated from Georgetown University. Trump attended Fordham University. Two of Trump's children graduated from Georgetown University. They fill the media with stories of the battle between left and right so that Americans are distracted and divided. They're causing emotions to run high on both sides, pitting Americans against each other so that they don't realize who is their collective enemy. Today, the USA government is filled with people who were trained at Jesuit schools. Catholics rule D.C., as we see with Joe Biden, John Boehner, Nancy Pelosi, Mike Pence, Rudy Giuliani, etc. The Supreme Court is now stacked with Catholics in Chief Justice John Roberts, Samuel Alito, Clarence Thomas, Sonia Sotomayor, Brett Kavanaugh, and Amy Coney Barrett. Protestant Christians think that they're well-represented, but fail to understand who the enemy is. There are so many Christians who want to deny the end is here. Or they just don't know prophecy. rumble.com/v2cfh72-donald-trumps-oath-to-the-nwo.-watch-till-the-end.html

[@RickW-HGWT]

Many were not taught the catechism, either in school or the church, the sjw crowd , and the NO don't put a priority on it, look at the lack,of belief in the real presence as evidence.

[@johnpglackin345]

Actually the Catechism has errors in it.

[@GinKirk7256]

Your new background and stylish clothing are spot on, in my humble opinion for what it’s worth.

[@maciejpieczula631]

His top button wasn't done up. And his clothes are obviously not tailored.

[@ashleystroud6314]

@@maciejpieczula631 Of all the useless, pointless and petty comments, yours is it.

[@maciejpieczula631]

@@ashleystroud6314 it's called attention to detail.

[@ashleystroud6314]

@@maciejpieczula631 Not in this context. How does this comment contribute to literally anything.

[@maciejpieczula631]

@@ashleystroud6314 how does yours?

[@francmittelo6731]

Christianity is liberal Judaism. Humans create religions, and these religions change as humans change.

[@ByronAgain]

Growth requires change, willingness, honesty and flexibility. Real growth is impossible if you begin with the premise that you already possess or have been handed 'the truth.' If your growth journey never challenges the presuppositions and truth claims imposed by doctrine, you might want to question your efforts, authenticity and intellectual honesty. If you come out of your journey and find yourself rubber-stamping dogmatic doctrine and using it to judge others by casting aspersions, then we must ask, was it all pure social and community performance? An empty, circular gesture where the conclusion was known before being followed by an empty effort?

[@frpaxvc]

God bless you, Brian. What is your take considering Dr. Tailor Marshal's book infiltration?

[@k.bernard9067]

Mr. Holdsworth, as you expressed your thoughts, two thoughts came to my mind: 1) For those who take the easy way, it is like a person who wishes to appear physically fit and uses external electro stimulation in an attempt to build muscle, while leading a sedentary life. All gain with no pain is the mantra. They ignore the connection to strengthening their heart, which atrophies from being sedentary, guaranteeing failure when faced with actual physical stress. Remeniscient of the parable of the seed sower. 2) While the experiment of liberal Christianity has played out over the past two millenia, and has been recorded for succeeding generations to learn from, it is largely ignored. In this day and age the view of what is history is contested. For certain parties, what has come before is irrelevant. Their approach to history is centered on themselves. Some see "history" as what they desire to happen, and has yet to. They see themselves as altruistic and flawless, as though this were a guarantee of their vision coming to fruition. They fail to consider the darker side of human nature, especially concerning parties who would exploit them for their own ends. Then there are those who pursue fame, who consider the only relevant history that needs to be known is that which they make. Both of these outlooks to history are not new. Previous generations have noted this in the quotation regarding the failure to learn (from) history results in repeating of errors which have previously played out. 3) I am reminded of something GK Chesterton wrote/said concerning the Church knowing the way out of the grave because of her founder. Numerous attempts have been made to end the Church throughout history. Each has failed leading to a strengthening and renewal as you have noted.

[@MicheleMarychurch]

Bravo!!!

[@kaisersykes2782]

Unrelated Question: What is the name of the song/chant in the intro?

[@Spiritof76Catholic]

You nailed it. Jesus would agree with you when you said, all are welcome, hell does not discriminate or exclude anyone. But people reject Jesus and write a comment like this, “You want me to reject gay couples, trans teens, female priests, etc. How do I reject real people and claim l'm a christian?” No. 100% wrong. They place themselves above God. They are and always have been welcome in the Church if they live God’s law and carry their cross not impose themselves on God. God set up the rules and Jesus fulfilled them and liberals and modernists reject Gods way, Matthew 5:17-20, 17 “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them. 18 For truly, I say to you, till heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the law until all is accomplished. 19 Whoever then relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches men so, shall be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but he who does them and teaches them shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven. 20 For I tell you, unless your righteousness exceeds that of the scribes and Pharisees, you will never enter the kingdom of heaven.”

[@jonatand2045]

There is a giant plot hole im that story. All things that are claimed to be sin were created by god if he is the creator of everything. The easiest way to prove is to realize that the past and the future are as real as the present by asking "why did we arrive now at the current moment now instead of sooner or later?" That there is no true present is also confirmed by relativity. This means god created the moments with sin too, which are claimed he doesn't like. A contradiction.

[@sarahj3349]

I recommend reading “The Righteous Mind” by Jonathan Haidt, it helps to explain liberal view of morality and why it’s so hard for them to understand the more traditional/conservative view.

[@rev.fr.spyridonchiones3963]

May I translate this video in Greek?

[@johnschuh8616]

Amen.

[@haydongonzalez-dyer2727]

Nice

[@glendanikolakakos7431]

I kinda thinking the same way , when we go to tourist parks that we never been , you have to study and do research more about it and learn all the safety precautions, the Bible has all the warning signs And instructions how to get to heaven or hell 🙏🙏🙏

[@xxCrapNamexx]

I agree. But the thing is, should people be free to damn themselves? I think a lot of the stuff people hate the church for is being forced to be the eldest son in the prodigal son story rather than having the freedom to be the younger son. I may be Kierkegaardian in this view but I assume that's where most people's beef comes from.

[@maciejrzepczyk6562]

Liberalism is not a ticket to misinterprit the Holy Scripture. Liberalism is the courage to reinterprit the material world to harmonise it with the Gospels and have the guts to go against harmful social constructs.

[@masterzero8561]

Yep, just as I expected, "drink the koolaid, don't think for yourself."

[@boris8787]

The Bible is the FINAL authority!!! - I can do all things through Christ which strengtheneth me - Philippians 4:13.

[@rafaellewis1263]

Where has liberal Christianity been tried? Honest question!

[@knockout123]

Such an excellent statement and completely true: "The ONLY place in which unconditioned inclusivity and the slogan 'all are welcome' has been fully realized is in Hell! Hell does not discriminate or exclude anyone." Perfectly stated and well done Brian!

[@reagansmith5288]

Your aesthetic is legendary Brian

[@CM-st1dl]

*New Discourses* channel is where to find the best and clearest analysis of the phenomenon discussed in this video. You are invited. A lot of the material covered will be very uncomfortable to modern ears, but clarity, growth and understanding will result. You are welcome.

[@granvillesimmons6033]

My experience has been that, rather than try to follow Christ's example, and what He actually taught, many Christians get caught up in various "interpretations" of Christianity by preachers, many of whom are way too focused on things like politics and the cult of personality. Christ calls us to get our priorities in order. And yes, absolutely, for a lot of Christians, that seems to be something inconvenient and against their natural impulses.

[@simonskinner1450]

Interpretations due to vested and invested interests, Jesus brought no new commandments as he attested to the law of Abraham, to fulfil the law by faith. Since the first century so-called Christianity has disconnected from its roots, and made grace unmerited allowing liberal attitudes to have as much say as any other.

[@richardbenitez1282]

Thank god I have never seen my catholic faith as a fixed system. I see this often in fellow Protestants. Even a a young kid I felt I had this solidarity with the poor and odd types. It was an open liberating thing since I was this unhappy kid in my ritzy neighborhood and family values. Lots of rich kids don’t like the heavy value system we inherit from family. It’s funny because this aspect is so misunderstood. One of my brother’s ki hates rich people. My brother sent him off to boarding HS just Theo keep him away from snobby kids. Yes.my nephew ran off to work as a ranch hand with cattle just as a way of giving the finger to his mom and grandma. Yes. My nephew reads his Bible in a tent at night while watching the cattle. He is serious Episcopalian.

[@juanuribe2580]

"offer it up, buttercup." i love this Catholic saying. all the living we're part of a "Militant" Church, emphasis on the word "militant". Pax Christi buttercups. Lol!!! j/k, love u all, keep fighting.

[@akiram6609]

It depends on the context. I would say that to myself when I find myself getting impatient during a traffic jam or when in a long line in the grocery store checkout lane. I would never say that to a victim of domestic violence. Oftentimes I say that to myself but never to others.

[@patrickbarnes9874]

5:50 this claim is certainly not self evident and needs to be backed up if you're going to say there's "no excuse" for not believing it.

[@TheRealShrike]

Great point. Brian Holdsworth, at 5:50 by what metric are you measuring "ruin?" And how are you ruling out a correlation vs. causation fallacy? Have you attempted at all to critique your own argument?

[@studiodemichel]

Weren't the oldest denominations formed out of liberal thought? Compare these divisions to the Church and teachings documented in the New Testament. In that original church there were no icons, no instruments of music, no singular episcopates, no infant baptisms, no salvation before believer's immersion, no building programs, etc. Keep stretching, brother! Peace.

[@shihyuchu6753]

What is the GOOD NEWS?

[@limoncellosmith7594]

That Jesus' death on the Cross took away our sins and His Resurrection brings us eternal life with the good God in heaven!

[@AndrewKendall71]

Turning the Christian faith into something humanly comfortable and personally, preferentially centered-something that is devoid of the historic morality and orientation on Christ-is not "reformation." It's malformation. Not a great idea to use that term because of hostility toward the Reformation. I get it, but reformation is positive by definition. Liberalization of the faith is the opposite.

[@LastRebel1978]

Revival repentance not renewal revolution

[@jessebryant9233]

Out of curiosity: What is the Gospel of Jesus Christ according to the Roman Catholic Church? "...what must I do, that I may be saved?" (Acts 16:30)

[@michaelmicek]

That Jesus Christ died for our sins, so that we are saved by grace through faith. However, this grace is communicated through the physical acts known as the Sacraments, so that you see in Acts 16:33 that the man was baptized, along with his whole household (including any infants). It was this act that saved them, as repeated in 1 Pet 3:21, "Baptism now saves you." Or Acts 2:37-38 "'what must we do?' ... 'repent... and be baptized'" But again, this grace was obtained through Christ's sacrifice on the cross. This sacrifice was "once for all" (Heb 10) but "all" means not limited in time, but made present for all time through the Sacrament of the Eucharist, which is his body and blood, and through which his death is proclaimed (1 Cor 11:23-26). Those are the most important, but there is much more to the Tradition which has been handed down from Christ through the Apostles, some of it by word of mouth (2 Thes 2:15).

[@jessebryant9233]

@@michaelmicek I appreciate the effort! Naturally, I do have a few questions... You stated: "...this grace is communicated through the physical acts known as the Sacraments." Not sure what you mean by that... Where does the Bible teach this idea? And how do you know it was "including any infants"? What is the purpose of water baptism in the Bible? Doesn't 1 Peter also say, "not the putting away of the filth of the flesh" (water?)? And how do you know that Hebrews 10 means what you just claimed it means? What is the line of reasoning there? And regarding the Eucharist, the passage you cite reads, "this do in remembrance of me", correct? And you're saying there is much more to the gospel than what you just told me? I'm afraid I'm a little confused... And 2 Thes. is talking about them at that time, correct?

[@jessebryant9233]

@@michaelmicek While I was replying to you, in the background I realized the topic of another video playing... Ironically, the video playing was this one: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jH3Mmp-ipM6pqLc

[@michaelmicek]

Christ founded a Church on Peter (Matt 16:18) and the Apostles, and their teachings have been handed down. Not everything has to be proven directly from the Bible, rather, the Catholic Church wrote the Bible and has authority to interpret it.

[@jessebryant9233]

@@michaelmicek What does that mean, "Christ founded the Church on Peter"? Who says that the Apostles teachings haven't been handed down? How do you know that "the Catholic Church" wrote the Bible? What do you mean by that? What do you mean by "has authority to interpret it"? Are you saying that you believe it is impossible for "the Church" to make a mistake when it comes to Scripture? What about all the teachings they've added to the Scriptures? Doesn't the Bible warn against adding to its teachings? I think what you're doing here is being viciously circular...

[@dannydoj]

Ok. Unfortunately, dedicated liberal Christians do exalt the struggle. They do not see themselves in your description. They are a counter Church that sees itself as part of liberating force for humanity with necessary sacrifice. This is how they read the Cross. They externalise the interior struggle for self mastery and deep intimacy with Christ that comes from grace and the Commandments into a social justice that apes the Gospel. This is because their conceptual understanding of Sacred Scripture and Christian tradition is rooted in an evolutionary perspective as opposed to a developmental one, built on immovable foundations. Authenticity for them comes from confidence in a God of all things travelling the same road with us, not knowing our future but wanting our dreams to be the same as His/Hers/It. Authenticity for the traditional Christian is confidence in a God who is the Beginning and the End, tracing the future before us and leading us into eternal life.

[@johnpglackin345]

Essentially liberal "Catholics" want to serve Satan. Not Christ.

[@bobaphat3676]

what is liberal Christianity?

[@roubad9034]

The church wasn't even all that to begin with.

[@chissstardestroyer]

That's not the problem: the problem is that immorality is taught to us *by* the dogmas and doctrines and analogies of the faith- even biblical teachings; thus they *cannot possibly* be from God, or more precisely: God is not God at all, but a devil *while* he remains the deity, due to having taught even one man, by the tiniest bit of His goals listed in His journal; to act up in any way at all!

[@jacekgaazka7503]

Could you list some examples of the communities ruined? Maybe the stories with a little background in video form?

[@michaelmicek]

I believe he's primarily referring to the collapse of mainline protestantism in North America, along with declines in Catholic engagement following liberalizations (e.g., a more comfortable liturgy; or making specific penances optional, which gets interpreted as making penance itself optional).