Where to Take The Boys Season 4

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The Boys just wrapped up season 3 with a controversial finale, so where does it go from here? In this video I go over everything from Homelander and Solider Boy to Starlight and Stan Edgar.
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[@captainmidnight]

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[@WSendam]

You are amazing 🤩

[@SuperMurray2009]

Want to see more of Black Noir. But unfortunately....

[@JamPierreRow]

frenchie

[@khufu8642]

I want to see more of black noise unfortunately :,(

[@khufu8642]

@@SuperMurray2009 same brother just when he got sympathetic we lost him

[@crod9905]

All I know is I want more Soldier Boy. That cannot be the last we see of him.

[@JasperXIII]

Absolutely not, if they weren’t going to show him anymore- they would’ve killed him. We’re definitely seeing more Solider Boy, if not in Season 4... then definitely Season 5.

[@lambsaucehunter9316]

We need more Soldier Boy and they need to bring in Tek Knight

[@lambsaucehunter9316]

@Matthew Turley Ugh I love the show but the finale was disappointing in how they handled Soldier Boy. I thought the MM line about him being racist was kinda dumb and out of place too.

[@attilamarics4808]

@@lambsaucehunter9316 Yeah I felt like: "That was it???!!!" I have plenty of doubts about the future of the series after that.

[@crazybabuskaman3923]

@@lambsaucehunter9316 I mean we don't have any clear proof of his him being racist, just him being homophobic (that one scene with the gay couple and his weird look) but he accidentally killed mms family by fighting crime, supposedly. And didn't he say some line about Bill Cosby being like the best dude on Earth lol. The finale was a mixed bag, there was alot they got right, and alot was wrong.

[@chungus1149]

Depowered homelander having to pretend like he's still god would be amazing. Ryan losing respect for him and possibly hurting him would also be great. Also with marvel studios clearly moving towards a young avengers lineup, I think it would be great for the boys to tackle how fucked up it is to actually have a bunch of 12 year olds fighting crime

[@Tokmurok]

I especially like the last idea, child crime fighters has always felt like a retarded idea. Just to appeal to a younger audience really. Realistically even if they were super strong they would suffer mental trauma.

[@sneakylilguy]

I genuinely can't imagine depowered Homelander. Like, I can see the other members of The Seven being just a regular dude/girl but, to me, Homelander's power is just something integral to him. It is him. So if we're gonna have a depowered Homelander someday, my mind will be completely blown and I'm excited at what direction they're gonna take it.

[@ineedpowers5151]

​@@Tokmurok I don't think all children gonna suffer mental trauma if they get superpowers, maybe the ones that suffers will be the western ones.

[@TheMightofDab]

necroposting but it would really suck to see the show decline due to the bad performance of child actors. Would result in both the show sucking and a portion of the fanbase harassing children

[@Iliadic]

That sounds like an amazing idea.

[@hollygolden9673]

You are right about Ackles being a great addition. He was my favorite this season.

[@thecandyman9232]

Couldn’t agree more. Any scene with Ackles in he completely stole the show. Dude absolutely killed it as soldier boy, and i rlly hope we can see more of him.

[@raibyo]

Unfortunately he was put back into sleep so he might not come back.

[@whysosnappy8016]

@Scooper They said addition not adaptation lmao

[@rustyshackleford2703]

They can honestly and should honestly just make a spin off for him in the 60s and 70s since he and Noir were so loved by the fans.

[@Aaron-kj8dv]

He was awesome, but he feels wasted. Like they could've done so much more and they end it with putting him to sleep? I don't like how they handled him at all really

[@THED3ADLY7]

They will probably cover how Ryan will react to Homelander’s position as his father figure now. You can expect some possible growth from Ryan after he makes his own mind on his father. The Boys will also try to stop Victoria Newman from winning the election and becoming the Vice President.

[@nanes9914]

I’m guessing they’ll try to stop her, but then Homelander will launch his campaign and they’ll switch sides and team up with Victoria to prevent HL from becoming the president. Of course, there’s nothing stopping HL from using his powers to become the president, but still I think that could happen.

[@feliksdzerzhinskij800]

Judging by that unnerving smile at the season finale I dare say Ryan might slowly evolving to Brightburn... maybe

[@inyourgranmaass3605]

@@nanes9914 doubt that homelander. Can.already do what he wants why would he Wana be president sounds dumb

[@vysharra]

@@feliksdzerzhinskij800 Ryan having his “edgy 4chan” phase and becoming Soldier Boy 2.0 as Homelander’s Evil Robin is my dream. The Boys need to be challenged with their turn towards Might Makes Right. I don’t like the original comic ending and I hope they split along ideological lines and infight instead. The whole “the enemy of my enemy” thing is so fraught for backstabbing, which does make for good stories but not a lot of character progression. Starlight and Homelander both came out at the end with the best stories because they stayed true to their original characterization and grew in that direction. Huey v Butcher because he and Annie want to try to save Ryan’s soul after they beat Homelander could totally work.

[@AVerySillySausage]

I have no trust in the child actor that portrays Ryan to do anything interesting. He will continue to just be a plot device.

[@samh8641]

Excited to see what they do. May be the first show that is definitively better than the comic.

[@amo903]

And its live action!

[@reddeaddumbass7649]

@@fansee1368 i think invincible is over all better than the comic but they ruined amber

[@user-kn6dq8uw2p]

Absolutely. But, the comics weren’t exactly kingdom come. So it wasn’t a Herculean effort to be better lol

[@Devon.with.an.i]

@@fansee1368 I think the boys released before invincible. Could be wrong tho

[@conradodeleon1354]

@@fansee1368 the boys was before invencible

[@Ali-bu6lo]

The problem is that with so many enemies, I don't see how a powerless Homelander can survive, even he himself may take his own life.

[@kremo2547]

Yup, I can see how some people might find that fitting but honestly if that were the end for his character i would find it disappointing

[@TheShoo]

He'd be crushed under the weight of his own ego. The only ways I can see him surviving tho is thru bluffing and the kid protecting him.

[@anthonyfernandez82]

@@kremo2547 just imagine him going off on someone like usual.... But this time he has no powers. He gets killed in a bar fight or something. Something he never had to worry about happening before

[@archiebuchan2563]

The one way I could see it playing out is that Homelander looses his powers, but no one knows about it aside from the Vought crew. Would be an interesting subversion of their power dynamic

[@Ali-bu6lo]

@@archiebuchan2563 The problem is that even inside Vought he's not safe. Ashley, Stan Edgar, A-Train and the Deep, all are very motivated to kill the guy before he can regain his power with injecting some V. The only way for him to lose his powers is for him to go MIA too.

[@pretends2know]

For those that don't know, Season 3 did change the status quo on Homelander, although it was so subtle that even I initially missed it. Someone else on KZbin (The Closer Look) pointed out a defining character trait for Homelander, and I realized that trait changed in the final scene when Homelander killed the protestor. Season 1-3 have been defined by Homelander's desire to be loved by public forcing him to hide his true most atrocious desires. The perfect example is he couldn't wipe out the protestors in Season 2 because he thought that would destroy his public image even though he fantasized about it right there. Well, end of Season 3, he kills one in what could at best be called a dangerous overreaction. The crowd decides it loves it, his son revels in the moment, and Homelander now knows he has a segment of the public that loves who he truly is, not who he thinks he has to pretend to be. As the series progresses, the most interesting thing about Homelander isn't his decaying mental health, although that is happening and interesting, it’s that he's losing reasons to pretend he needs to act like he's on a higher moral ground than he is.

[@DutchSimmer1]

Exactly, like he said to Annie about the video leaking and his whole “if everyone hates, I’ll go full psycho” is now even scarier because he can go full psycho and have the love that he desires. I’d love to see him being absolutely unhinged for the first couple episodes, but as was pointed out in this video, if he loses his powers, maybe he’ll see what kind of hell scape he has created. Let’s be honest, Homelander having this applause while doing the things he always does will undoubtedly “inspire” more Supes to come his side and be just as dangerous as he is.

[@Aisha_Luv]

He goes from seeking attention from the public, to wanting attention from his son, and to raise him like the father he never had.

[@Walden-jx4mi]

As much as it’s already political it (to me) was analogous to trumps storming the capital, realising he can do whatever he wants and people will still support him, potentially this could be (as others have pointed out) leading to a direct homelander storming the capital as happened in the comics.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

It’s all building up to a major plot point that was in the original comic as well, Homelander leading a Supe coup against the US government, killing the President and taking over. The main difference is that in the comic it was (in a bit of extremely stupid writing) all revealed to be a plot to drive Homelander insane by Black Noir (who was a clone of Homelander the whole time), but in the show they’re building up to this point much more naturally and making it more directly Homelander’s own choice.

[@jasonreed7522]

@@MidlifeCrisisJoe the comics were written by someone who fully admits to hating the superhero genere, so expect the comics to have acts of inane writing just to make supes looks extra stupid. Also, i don't know if I'm alone in this interpretation but when homelander killed the protester "in self defense" (he was in 0 danger even if the guy litterally shot him) it looked to me like the crowd was deciding to run or cheer or something, and then 1 person (MM's rival & soyboy) decides to cheer. What i wonder is if the cheer was genuine support or a survival attempt by placating homelander. (Which just like appeasement with Hitler is only going to encurage him to get worse) This incident definitely marks Homelander getting an apparent greenlight from the public to be more agressive than ever, which will not be a good thing for the boys & starlight.

[@justinriley]

Personally, I'm looking forward to seeing more of Annie and Kimiko interacting.

[@Small_child_punter]

I don’t care much for either character. Or at least not their stories. Love stories aren’t that interesting in a show like the boys.

[@CourtCjbLand]

I agree! Annie and MM had some of the best character moments in the season IMO

[@iansaysstuff4397]

@@Small_child_punter Have you even watched the show? Both of their stories are way more than just their relationships and their personal arcs are pretty much completely separate from them

[@Small_child_punter]

@@iansaysstuff4397 alright settle down

[@ruinerrrrrr]

Hell No 🤣

[@andrewrogers3067]

Black Noir deserves to have his rematch against Soldier Boy, they can’t let that setup die.

[@owenlewis7928]

I think Vought is gonna clone Noir with his original memories, only now they’ve experimented on him to the point where he’s become the most powerful supe (just like the Ivan’s did with Soldier Boy) and use him as a deterrent against Homelander, who’s become more and more volatile since season 1. Black Noir and Butcher kill Homelander.

[@SuperMurray2009]

They really need to work on the power scaling in this show

[@thegreatest6546]

you literally must have missed the entire point of the season

[@willchalloner6643]

I think if noir does return, it will link to Edgars plot

[@Small_child_punter]

A lot of people deserve revenge in the boys.

[@louis1272]

I love the depowered Homelander idea but I kind of think he should’ve lost his powers in season 3’s finale after his fight with Soldier Boy. That is a way to change the status quo and still keep Homelander around. He could spend season 4 regaining his powers and facing his own mortality, but then get them back and go on a rampage in season 5.

[@MrInvinciblewarrior]

Cant homelander just use compound v? Even when losing his powers, he still had vought tech to fix it. Thats likely why they didnt do it.

[@JahanMisra]

@@MrInvinciblewarrior they could’ve had it so the compound V isn’t as effective as when he was given it as a baby so he could still be weaker (and later get to full strength somehow)

[@pinkgoergefloyd8340]

No

[@thuranz2773]

I'm not sure if that would work, though. Homelander is such an unhinged maniac and a liability, I get the sense that if something did cause Homelander to lose his powers at this point, Vought would likely take it as an opportunity to quietly kill him. If he loses his powers fighting Soldier Boy in the future, claim he died of injuries. If he loses them out of the publice eye, kill him before it leaks to the public and claim it was a brain aneurysm or something, and the doctors couldn't save him due to his durability.

[@louis1272]

@@thuranz2773 Fair point, they would definitely try to, but my idea would be that Homelander manages to escape and go into hiding somehow. Although the idea of him being hunted simultaneously by Vought and The Boys is a really cool idea imo.

[@spencerheffelfinger782]

The Boys is one of those rare adapted works that is better than the original.

[@Small_child_punter]

That doesn’t say TOO much. The comic was very early 2000’s if you catch my drift. Trying to be as dark and gory and repulsive as possible. There wasn’t an emphasize on the supes using their powers like there is in the show. And the boys themselves are a little overpowered in the comics. They were never in any real danger since they were always way more capable than the supes they would slaughter. The only interesting story line in the comics was homelanders. It’s a unique and scary situation being shown atrocities you’ve done but not remembering.

[@Small_child_punter]

@@issemayhem that wasn’t TENSION in the comics. Maybe for the characters but not from a story perspective. We never thought the boys were in danger of being killed.

[@sasha-dt5vk]

invincible is one of those as well. and arcane !

[@williamseneyjr.6277]

I fully agree Spencer. I only very recently started reading the comic and was somewhat surprised to end up deciding that the show spoils us. The comic seems nuts for the sake of being nuts while the show is a more calculated-nuts.

[@zumabbar]

@@issemayhem i have to add when Hughie was found out alone by Noir in the sewers. "Thumbs up" for your comment. edit: and Butcher's antics setting Hughie up with Metachemical or whatever was that dickwad's name.

[@majorken09man]

Seeing Homelander get depowered and on the run from the boys or Neuman by the end of Season 4, to slowly turn into Anthony Starr’s Banshee character to get his hands on V by any means would be unreal arch

[@marcocarmona4463]

Wut

[@gemqueen1866]

Ryan would be his shield.....

[@gorgit]

I probably would stop watching if they decided to do that. The shows avout how they would be able to defeat a god, but if they show that there are ways that easily defeat him, they remove that power dynamic entirely. Instead of 'homelander is unkillable, what can they even try to do' it goes to 'ah, so theyll just remove his powers in some way or another, who knows'. That would be incredibly bad

[@Mitcheck315]

I think that S4 culminating in Homelander supporters storming the capitol is basically guaranteed to happen at this point, not only because the comics kind of do that but because that's basically the natural endpoint for the Trump allegory they've been building up for three seasons Edit: for people yelling that I'm making things political or that S3 "went woke" I'll let you in on a little secret: Homelander was always an allegory for everything wrong with the US and if you think the show is making that too obvious and alienating viewers you should really read the comics because they are much much less kind to your viewpoint. Art is political. All of it. The modern idea of the superhero was created by immigrants. Any claim that this is some new phenomenon says a lot more about the person complaining than the art they're complaining about. Read a book. Go outside. You clearly need to experience the world.

[@creopictures]

Good point. One could ask if that would be too on the nose... but this is The Boys we're talking about. They have no shame, and that's why we love it. :D

[@bootmanbill2362]

@@creopictures trueee I love the boys don’t get me wrong but they’re not exactly masters of subtle metaphor

[@jco156]

What the hell does any of the boys have to do with trump? Can't people leave real world politics out of TV shows?!

[@MikeKennedyNFL]

@@jco156 lmao you’re joking, right?

[@wanderingrandomer]

@@jco156 This has gotta be bait

[@Barkugou420]

I'm hoping for Ryan becoming the new Soldier Boy only based on the reference to how soldier boy in the comics shouts out the names of the states when fighting And Ryan does the same when he's stressed

[@Miller09095]

I think the stuff with Soldier Boy was originally intended as a one season thing like Stormfront, but Jensen Ackles was just too good so they put him back on ice.

[@ieatpeopleand]

I don't think Stormfront is dead. Name another supe in the show that had died off screen. 🚬😎

[@chicomac8450]

Edgar was one of my favorites of this season. I feel like almost everyone brought their all to season 3. Example: I hated A-Train and I even think he was amazing this season. ASHLEY of all people was so good. The fear of Homelander, standing up to Starlight and ATrain.. Everyone was so great

[@artcorbeau]

ashley is one of the best character. The actress is arguably more amazing than the actor of homelander

[@chicomac8450]

@@artcorbeau she was so fleshed out this season I wanted to see more from her. She was wonderful and I agree with you. I think she’s easily one of the tops of the show. Up there with Homelander, Butcher and MM

[@jimmycevallos4468]

@@chicomac8450 no she’s not

[@jimmycevallos4468]

@@artcorbeau no she’s not better than homelander.

[@artcorbeau]

@@jimmycevallos4468 she had more ranges of emotion than homelander and anyone in the show

[@h7delta225]

I think that homelander losing his power but only a few people knowing would be great. He would be bluffing in a lot of situations and atony starr has the nuance to pull it off

[@gravy4708]

You lot really want to lose the best antagonist huh?

[@iwrotewords510]

@@gravy4708 I feel like plenty of people want Homelander to lose his powers, but if he does the same will complain about the show doing it. lol

[@gravy4708]

@@iwrotewords510 I don't think anyone wants homelander to lose his powers. I'm pretty sure there are more people who like homelander more than butcher. Moreover, homelander is probably the best antagonist in any show right now so losing him as a threat will be devastating for show as well as fans.

[@VictoriaClerici]

@@gravy4708 well, the show does have to end at some point, so his character can't stay the same forever. I'd rather they do it neatly and coherently in season 4 either by having Homelander killed or deprived of his powers than dragging it for like 3 more years and messing the series up entirely, refusing to let it rest because it's so profitable (like The Simpsons lol). I mean, I do want to see more of Homelander and The Boys in general, but it unfortunately does have to end, and it would be preferable if it did so on a high note

[@gravy4708]

@@VictoriaClerici Just how many shows have you watched? 3? Look at the pacing it won't end for at least 2 more seasons. Which means 2 more seasons of homelander screentime, which is amazing. As long as the boys doesn't kill off homelander it'll be as good as good gets.

[@untitleduntitled4740]

S3 rly amped up the show’s intensity. I can’t imagine what’ll happen in s4, but I hope it can live up to that hype

[@Cassius4]

I think the final fight in the tower was actually very satisfying, it really made homelander seem actually beatable for once. I mean you saw how Queen Maeve made him bleed and take out one of his ears by herself. Makes him feel a lot more human than just his emotions and thoughts.

[@chainsofgames]

They could just team up and whoop him without soldier boy if Maeve hurt him like that

[@Cassius4]

@@chainsofgames That was my comment lmao

[@chainsofgames]

@@Cassius4 tHAt wAS My COmMEnt LMaO

[@therealifejames5887]

@@chainsofgames calm down bro

[@Ren_Davis0531]

I think it was a mistake to put Soldier Boy back in the box. Made the whole season feel pointless as we ended up back where we started with minor tweaks. At least leaving Soldier Boy out and about adds some intrigue to the show in how he would be utilized again. He added such an interesting and fresh dynamic. Plus it’s always great to see Jensen Ackles. Dean was my favorite Supernatural character.

[@saycheese121]

I think that was kind of the entire point. Butcher and the boys went and got soldier boy because they thought he was the solution to killing homelander. They didnt know he was his dad. They made homelander worse by bringing soldier boy into his life. The boys are they're own worst enemy, not really accomplishing much and making things worse. I mean look what happened to butcher this season. In S1 he was so adamant that nobody should have powers and those that do need to die. Then in S3 he gets a taste of that power and becomes just as bad as someone like homelander. The boys is a world of grey, nobody's really good or really evil. Just people with their own motives and believing that what they're doing is right whether it actually is or not. But that's human nature.

[@Ren_Davis0531]

@@saycheese121 Yeah and at the end of the day, these morally grey characters should have used Soldier Boy to kill Homelander then deal with Soldier Boy later. Pragmatically that made the most sense as he was the undeniable best choice to kill Homelander. That was the logical conclusion. The only reason they didn’t accomplish much is because the writers contrived their decisions to make suboptimal choices.

[@saycheese121]

@@Ren_Davis0531 I mean it's a show they want to continue so obviously they didnt kill homie this season. But I think if they're gonna continue to find ways to keep the show running without killing him. Having the boys think they've found a solution only for it to back fire on them big time I think works from a story perspective.

[@Ren_Davis0531]

@@saycheese121 Obviously they can’t kill him until the final season. However, that means they need to find logical reasons to prolong Homelander’s life. Not have the characters make suboptimal decisions to drag the story out. It’s about the illusion of reality. The characters have to feel believable and having them make decisions simply for the sake of the story breaks immersion.

[@saycheese121]

@@Ren_Davis0531 a characters purpose is to serve the story. Each season ends with homie being more and more free and unstable. Season 3 aided in that, and the boys' decisions led to that. Everything that happened in S3 made sense for the characters and the state they're in currently.

[@bingewatcherfanatic996]

I know season 5 will be the final season because Kripke already confirmed he will only do five seasons. And Jensen Ackles will be returning for season 4.

[@TheLithp]

The only thing I could find was him saying he plans "roughly" for 5, but he also said he claimed Supernatural would go "5 seasons for sure" but then "that fucker went for 15."

[@calamorta]

@@TheLithp Let's just hope The Boys don't go for that long. It will ruin everything. It's better to have a perfect show that you can rewatch multiple times (Breaking Bad) than a mess that just keeps going for the money.

[@youtubeaccount5904]

I mean, Supernatural was supposed to end when Kripke was done too. We saw how that turned into.. All that means is we're gonna have 5 good, enjoyable seasons. Then they probably get a new showrunner to run it into the ground.

[@WolfTitan99]

@@TheLithp It only went for 15 seasons because the actors wanted to continue it after the actual storyline. Kripke ONLY did 5 seasons as showrunner and tied up the show excellently, its why he left after S5, because his story was finished. None of that is Kripke's fault.

[@gemqueen1866]

@@TheLithp He had written only for then left......

[@ssj4922]

This was a great season. Some of my on the head prediction for Season 4 would be: >Ryan starts to become more like Homelander, adopting some of his cruelty and disregard for others but his actions start to become too much on him as he remembers his mother's wishes for him to be good and her death. >Dakota Bob becomes the US president and pardons Stan Edgar, who rebuilds a new Superhero team (this could be the seven, after a hypothetical scenario where Homelander is fired) with a black noir that is either a new one more closely reflecting the comics (I.e. Homelander clone), or the current one who Stan manged to fix before he dies of his gut filled wounds killing him. Victoria is alligned with Stan yet again either from a plot twist going back to season 3 where they planned to overtake Homelander, or she goes back to him cuz her daughter is not in good shape (either from compound V or Homelander threatening her). A-Train might be with Stan since he was looking at Black Noirs helmet in the S3 finale so he might finally not be with Homelander. Maybe he'll even fight him with the Boys in the season 4 finale to somewhat redeem himself. >Homelander creates more supes and tries to reanimates some old ones for his team (either for the Seven since so many of them are gone, or for a new team after he gets kicked outta Vought). The world (minus Toad and his cronies) wants Homelander to be held accountable for the all the deaths he has caused including on the plane and the guy at the ralley. >The deep comes out as openly fish sexual and finds he is not alone and finds others who are also but discovers that the fish and octopus are not consensual in their relationships (dont ask this). >Butcher has some unexpected residual effect from temp v, and has to deal with the ramecations of his declining health along with the collapse of his relationships with Ryan and the rest of his team.

[@jproductions5977]

Sounds good 👍👍

[@TheLithp]

We know there's going to be a new Noir, played by the same actor, who's supposed to be a funny character.

[@gregburden416]

Dakota Bob is not gonna get much screen time. In the comics he becomes President, and then is killed of by Victor Newman, Victoria’s comic book counterpart. The same will most likely happen in the Show, and Victoria will take his spot as President.

[@andreamagni8017]

Dakota Bob is going to die in a way so stupid and horrible that every future president would make the joke of "at least I got it better than him"

[@whysosnappy8016]

The Deep one sounds actually legit ngl

[@kuntaldive2618]

"Who's Homelander without his powers" I must say that's a very interesting plot potential. Great video as always captain. Love from India!

[@Small_child_punter]

Trying to imagine Homelander without his powers is like trying to see out of your elbows. It just doesn’t work. Homelanders whole character is about his isolation from being at the top. All the problems he faces are a result of his strength. Raised in a lab, parent issues, requirement to be loved, the terrorizing of his peers.

[@kuntaldive2618]

@@Small_child_punter that's the exact reason why that plot thread is so interesting. We might be able to see Homelander finally satisfied or completely helpless.

[@Small_child_punter]

@@kuntaldive2618 I hope it’s not the former. That’s the last thing he deserves.

[@kuntaldive2618]

@@Small_child_punter that's true.

[@dammagrilla]

"Who's Homelander without his powers?He's a dead man" - Butcher, probably

[@benjaminbierley2074]

I think Edgar is actually fine with being in exile, cause it does something everyone sees coming...Homelander self-destructing, he knows Homelander is a ticking time bomb of insecurity just waiting to go off hard. By removing him from power at Vought it's basically absolved him of blame when said bomb finally goes off, and positions him perfectly to come back in with possibly the solution to stopping Homelander, earning his position back AND eliminating Homelander and really the supes in general which is one of his stated long term goals.

[@AstonishingRed]

Season 3 just felt like a really long, REALLY good movie cut into 8 parts.

[@kerklyo6879]

It’s funny you say that because Kripke has openly expressed his distaste of the “long movie” style of television writing that has become popular on streaming services lol

[@avyukt8865]

I don't think the ending was flawed... you see Butcher turning on Soldierboy was rather understandable, since he had to keep up his promise with Becca, to save Ryan no matter what.

[@ThatRules]

I think for season 4 you get a fun parody of Ryan being the “Super Boy” stand in. Also, with homelander being de powered or maybe weakened due a new form of V, you could have a cool” death of Superman” inspired scene with maybe a Compound V enabled Butcher who is trying to end things before his time is up.

[@Blast2224]

So long as they don’t fall into the same cliches Brightburn did where suddenly the kid is just this sociopath. Ryan should have internal conflict that starts tearing him apart from Becca’s nurturing and Homelander’s occasional psychopathy.

[@wren8253]

@@Blast2224 Ryan really fascinates me as a character - he could honestly be one of the first “real” heroes if they play his character right.

[@flashpone7910]

Am I the only one that thinks it’s weird that in Season 2 they introduced another head-popping supe in the asylum, and then at the end of the episode she escapes… Only to never be brought up again? What was the deal with that? Was that just some kind of red herring? But, like, the characters didn’t even talk about or theorize she could be the head popper. What was the point of that plot point?

[@billybutcher913]

I don't know how Homelander would lose his powers at the end of Season 4, I think all of this is basically leading up to a giant battle between Butcher and Homelander just how they agreed in the very first episode of the third season

[@ShawnEnge]

If Homelander loses his power, I don't see him lasting long. Everyone has a grudge against him, but the only reason they haven't done more is because he's Mother-effing Homelander. If he looses his powers, everyone will be gunning for him. Butcher will have to get in line. Some might pity him, but a lot would kill him - for fear he gets his powers back.

[@coryakabueze4541]

Soldier boy was there only hope to killing homelander but butcher had to screw up the plan 🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️🤦🏾‍♂️

[@wdcain1]

The ways season three brought up abuse interested me since we saw all types: Bullying, emotional, physical, and grooming. I really want to see this examined.

[@Bazza52Razza]

This series has been one of my highlights recently especially with how weak the mcu has been. Jensen has been fantastic distancing himself from the dean role he’s been known for. I’m excited to see where the show takes up next!

[@l.m.a.9861]

As much as I love The Boys, I think they will run into a wall after season 4 unless they figure out how to progress the story better. The last 2 seasons were pretty much just the boys finding something to fight Vought, things end in a shitshow and everything resets for the main characters. It's becoming a very predictable and tedious pattern and they need to change that.

[@bingewatcherfanatic996]

Agree as much as I loved season 1 and didn't like season 2 but I agree with the opinion because i think season 3 did it better.

[@conradodeleon1354]

I think you are talking about umbrella academy, that show is the same the 3 season

[@patrickhanlon2325]

I dont understand how things have reset ? Homelander put himself in charge of Vought he finally lost his patience with a civillain and people reacted well, butcher has nothing to lose now so who knows what he will do. Dude I could go on and on about all the characters and how much everything has changed

[@Small_child_punter]

An issue I’m having rn is that I’m struggling to find half of the boys team compelling. The little thing with Frenchie and Kimiko is the last thing I’m invested in. Mothers milk is alright, but not getting much importance. In season 1, they were all great. But butcher and hughie are the only ones that are advancing the story.

[@crod9905]

It just feels like they're not anywhere closer to defeating Homelander and want to drag it out as long as possible.

[@CraigGillies97]

Love your content mate. Been off work for a few months and watching your videos has been a highlight recently so thanks very much. I appreciate it

[@wDoucheCanoe]

I honestly don’t like the idea of Homelander losing his powers at all. They’ve been slowly but surely building up the moment where he snaps, and commits mass genocide. I think losing his powers should happen in the series finale; Homelander loses his powers, and then he un-alives himself - that’s something I could see happen

[@VictoriaClerici]

also, the ending should be very bittersweet. If it was a simple happy ending then that would go against all the cynicism the show has been portraying since the beggining

[@sweetolbrew1724]

I like the idea just for the fact he'd still pretend hes all high and mighty till someoen hits him but thats the only reason The show for sure feels like its focusing on homelander more and more, you can feel his breaking point nearing and... when that happens, thats gonna be one red episode

[@aidanshea5942]

I've noticed a pattern in the Boys that I think might continue: TL;DR: I think they're going to introduce a character called Tek-Knight and he's going to draw a lot of focus In season one we got The Seven who are a parody of the Justice League In season two we got stormfront who in the comics is meant to be a play on Thor, they are also the leader of Payback in the Comics, and in turn Payback is based of of the Avengers. In season three we got Soldier Boy an obvious play on Captain America and the leader of the show's version of Payback. But there's one character missing from the comic version of Payback: Tek-Knight who in the comics is a play on both Iron-Man and Batman, being a billionaire who "builds" (it's made by Vought scientists) a suit to stand on the same level as the Supes Now think about it, he was seemingly purposely left out of season three, with Black Noir out of the picture the Seven need a Batman figure to fill the vacant spot, and the show seems to place emphasis parody of a main member of "Marvel's Big Three" those being Thor, Captain America and Iron-Man every subsequent season, so it makes sense for season four they would go with Tek-Knight. Also, This doesn't really add to my point but imagine what the writers could do with a more realistic take on the "Benevolent Billionaire" superhero trope, it could be both funny and poignant.

[@VictoriaClerici]

I think that is one of the few elements the show has yet to satirize, the "genius, hard working, self made" billionare (aka Musk, Bezos and such), the way they make their money through exploitation or inheritance and how they build that supposedly incredibly inteligent persona around them. I don't know if the show is willing to go that far on its critiques tho, even more so if we consider it's made by Amazon lol

[@tds7078]

Edgar meeting The Boys: “Ah you’re Hughie, very twink-ish indeed.”

[@petegamingclips]

This show has been my most favorite show of all time, and I'm very hopeful for the future of the show

[@DIGITALBREAD_]

my biggest problem with season 3 (and i guess the whole show) is how quickly it’s brushed over when becca died. like the whole show was built off of butcher trying to find his wife, he finally gets her back then she dies. AND IT DOESNT SEEM TO BE ADDRESSED AGAIN? no showing butcher/ryan’s grief it’s just forgotten about other than him mentioning the “promise”

[@juliogomez2534]

S3 felt like setup tons of it, sure it deliver on previous seasons story arks but was mostly focus on setting up the dominos that will be falling in S4. I quite like it especially MM's story, learning his reasons to be in the team really help to deepen his character.

[@brobs0463]

Imagine if at the end of season 4 Homelander loses his powers, but then in season 5 he has to pretend like he still has them to hold on to what little power he has left. His power over others

[@Gemarald]

I hope in Season 4 Homelander sees the piece of paper that Noir put "BAD" with the underlines and realizes he was just trying to help him.

[@rosaevee274]

Butcher getting 12 months to live felt like the show saying "next season is the last season" but I could be wrong.

[@alanpennie8013]

They said 12 - 18 months, so it looks like 1 - 2 seasons.

[@fransesco9703]

Would be cool to see you make a video about the final season of Better Call Saul when it ends. The season has been amazing so far and the show as a whole as well

[@josh36047]

Id love to see Stan work with the boys more closely. I feel like they hint at it with the “play both sides” line. Homelander having Butcher and Stan working together would be even more fuel to that fire too.

[@hexproofproject8199]

Ryan doing Homelander in is *the* most fitting finale for the character.

[@karenwang313]

Its the most obvious and boring route, I would be disappointed if the writers actually went with that.

[@maguc5906]

I think the end of S3 pretty good setup for the whole "Homelander creates a supe army in order to take over the USA". Him slowly realizing that he can really, genuinely do anything he wants and he will have supporters is a good stepping stone for that support to not only be the public, but other superheroes. Whether it will go into the "Homelander takes over the White House" plot line or not, is a whole different story, I do think they're setting the seeds for S4 to be Homelander taking the reins of an army, supes or the public. I also think S4 will be the time The Boys start taking permanent Compound V. At the very least Butcher and Hughie, as they will need CV in order to not die from V24. They can also go into the "Dead man walking" trope, but I feel that limits the story and needs to be used as a final season type thing

[@1.21gigawatts2]

What I'm honestly most looking forward too is finally seeing how Homelander performs as a father figure now that he has "full custody" of Ryan. I'm thinking Ryan turns out like the kid from the movie Brightburn but maybe I'm wrong. In his own sick and twisted way I think Homelander wants to give Ryan the childhood he never had and while that might include murder I think that's kind of sweet in a way.

[@alanpennie8013]

Even in season 2 Homelander showed genuine concern for Ryan. His relationship with his son may be his one redeeming feature.

[@gretchenbaker7435]

I absolutely fell in love with this series! Absolutely fantastic humour ,darkness and cast. My family and friends are so sick of me telling them to watch it.

[@stankyman]

You have given me a strong insight of KZbin commentary for big superhero videos, series, and movies such as the boys, which I freaking love, but I am sorry Captain Midnight while I know negative critique sells. I feel like your content is biased towards this because of this. Nevertheless love your content and I hope to see much more in the future.

[@Tr1ple-A]

The Boys season 1,2, and 3 was amazing and yep bring on season 4 😎🔥👊

[@BigDeac]

Homelander dies the second he loses his powers, straight up. No one would hesitate to kill him and it would be the season 3 finale all over again if he lives.

[@LordOfAllusion]

I want a Soldier Boy spinoff series focusing on his life from the 40’s - the 80’s and the rise of Vought Enterprises. Imagine Mad Men with superheroes.

[@giornogiovanna770]

Yeah and they could do alot more with him and payback, especially black noir

[@skarloeythomas5172]

No spinoffs. Let good television be good television. Mass produced corporate universes kill creativity.

[@LordOfAllusion]

@@skarloeythomas5172 yeah, but that is completely on-brand for this franchise.

[@skarloeythomas5172]

@@LordOfAllusion They already lampooned it in the show. If you need a second show based on the principle of irony, it's not so ironic anymore.

[@fuffoon]

I cannot wait to see what comes next. I'm excited for more carnage and surprises.

[@SuperBananaSalad]

What makes homelander so compelling is the aura of absolute fear and power he holds over everyone in the room. I think taking that away limits the character so much where I wouldn’t mind seeing homelander snap to the point of killing the president like in the comics and just running it himself. I think the show needs to continue to ramp up homelanders insanity and depowering him wouldn’t leave room for literally anything lol

[@Tsai_tama]

This show seems more and more like a homelander story after every season and less the story of the boys

[@sweetolbrew1724]

I kinda like it, it really makes me feel like homelander is truly taking over

[@spider-manunknown9193]

I love this show it’s so good I’m so excited for what they do for season 4 this show is perfect.

[@Mikey64]

Wow, I just finished season 3 yesterday so seeing this in my inbox was a surprise

[@simonjonwatson7706]

Personally I was hoping they would be able to keep Soilder Boy on ice for a season and bring him back in season 5 or 6. However Butcher being given limited life span might mean things have to move forward a lot faster.

[@ssj4922]

I think the main reason why the end of S3 feels so unsatisfying to people is mainly to do with how little screentime Ryan got, considering him picking Homelander and the last scene hinting of the kid becoming as twisted as his biological father is suppose to be tie that kinda concludes the theme this season deals with on the role of fathers, and how inadequate (and lack of) parenting will lead to a cycle of brutal violence and cruelty. We see this theme explored incredibly well through characters like Butcher whose trauma over his father's abuse led to his current mindset where even if he knows what he is doing is wrong, he cant help dragging himself and other people into his vengeance no matter how horribly it may get for all of them. We see this through Soldier Boy whose lack of parental acceptance lead to behavior to deteriorate into a person that would constantly traumatize his teammates. And of course, with Homelander and his various problems and issues, all accumulating into him getting Ryan back through appealing to their respective superpower identities and to pleading to Soldier Boy that they can all be a family again. With all three of these examples, all 3 characters have gone through substantial development and further characterization, but with Ryan, he just runs away from Butcher after he gets mad at him, and next scene he's goated into accepting Homelander again.

[@JRM92B]

I knew about this series for years but I never watched it, last week I finally decided to give it a go and I was not disappointed. If I ever thought Homelander was an evil superman then by now I know how wrong I was and honestly I'm really enjoying the show and each of the hero's personality is just so rich and somehow relatable/believable, humor is well dosed too. Something Marvel and DC should definitely take notes from

[@gemqueen1866]

I feel the same....that HL will be de-powered by SB and how that comes about is by Edgar and Mallory teaming up. They free SB in order to subdue HL, but knowing how vengeful and all but indestructible he is, he would pose another problem for them all. After all, he didn't want to go back in the box. Some form of 're-education perhaps....making him a useful tool but without his previous memories maybe?

[@spliffsforbreakfast]

I’m new to The Boys and I honestly don’t know how I’ve been so blind to the series for this long. I binged the whole thing in a couple weeks. The ONLY two things I would say confused me are .. 1: Why did Victoria only kill Raynor in ep1 season 2, and where was she to begin with? 2: Why would Billy attack SB and completely throw seasons1-3 out the window. Homelander is a planetary threat and I don’t even think he told Ryan that he raped his mom which doesn’t make sense at all. other than that I love the show.. rip noir

[@alanpennie8013]

I think Butcher's sudden face turn is to do with Becca and his complicated relationship with Ryan.

[@barbiegirl2212]

Мне кажется что Билли решил напасть на солдатика потому что, после того как он пережил свою жизнь благодаря мозгоштурму и тому что райан теперь у хоумландера. Мясник понял что он стал похож на своего отца и из-за этого нарушил обещание ребекки. (это в принципе в этом сезоне отлично показано, все похожи на своих родителей которых ненавидели). Да кажется что все действия Мясника в пустую, но если он продолжит так себя вести, думать о райане больше чем о мести, то это наоборот логично, он вырос и понял в чем были его ошибки, он не может жертвовать райаном ради своей мести

[@MrTJPAS]

I can see a depowered Homelander plotline going in such a way that most of the rest of the world isn't aware that he is without powers, but he still has to get people (mainly Vought, A-Train and the Deep) to do what he wants. Thus, he uses the (now empty) threat of killing them to keep them in line and plays off their fear of him to get what he wants without even needing to flash his laser eyes. Also, I wouldn't be surprised by S4 having Homelander getting his most loyal followers to use Temp V and commit acts of violence on his behalf. It would be a challenge the Boys could fight and provide some good action, and it could also be reminiscent of Homelander's supe uprising in the comics.

[@VictoriaClerici]

Homelander's followers becoming supes (temporarily or not, maybe even Homelander grants them access to V) and commiting heinous crimes on his behalf does feel like a very likely, nuanced and dare I say interesting progression for the show, tbh

[@TheGoonSquadd]

This is one of the few shows that each season is significantly better then the previous, even when season 1 was a work of art. I’m so excited for 4 because I didn’t think 3 could top 2. And 3 ended up being the greatest season yet!

[@rustyshackleford2703]

I love BCS and The Boys. Good taste my brotha.

[@Music34897]

Once Homelander has everything he wants with Ryan and his power, I agree the only interesting place left to really take him is death or de-powering and I like the latter more for the drama

[@alanpennie8013]

They can't kill Homelander until the end of the show, so depowering him is a good alternative.

[@92alpha13]

Stan Edgar said he wanted to get out of the superhero business. Victoria played her part, instructed by Edgar, to help Edgar leave vought and get close to Homelander. Stan is way too formidable to just exit stage left. He breadcrumb the boys to Soldier Boy. He will no doubt get Black Noir back on his feet and more powerful than ever. IDK, Stan is a bad MF!

[@bigmike69]

I really like the idea of a powerless homelander that they can lock up and treat as a source of advice in a way. Kind of like how zuko would talk to Ozai in jail in the comics after he was de powered.

[@lordjet1596]

Two options: Black Noir clone ramped up on temp V. Won't kill him but sends him mad. Thus we get a supe at Black Noir levels of the comics, and with the power set to be the tool that Billy uses to kill HL, before offing Noir. Or, Black Noir becomes Tech Knight - extensively rebuilt, and will have a secondary story arc in order to take out Soldier Boy, possibly with MM. Temp V will be have been made from Ryan's DNA. Not sure if that will be a thing but would explain the power level hikes. For a story arc from that, we could have HL not knowing that - until too late - , and takes it with either no effect, or ramps up power and starts to unhinge him further. Making the need for a massive team up to take him out. My personal favourite idea is that Ryan, or new Noir, or Billy, end up being the real super big bad. And no matter how unhinged HL is - he doesn't become nicer etc - HL dies a complete hero, perhaps taking out Ryan. Only the Boys who survive know this and are disgusted that he is forgiven and loved in death. Would be a beautiful swerve.

[@SuperMurray2009]

If there is one thing I pray they improve for next season it's the fight choreography. Because I thought it was VERY lackluster last season. I know this is technically not an action show. Very unengaging action sequences.

[@Small_child_punter]

The herogasm fight was incredible. But in fairness, it was only a 3 man fight.

[@Blast2224]

I agree. They up the budget every season a little more so hopefully more fight choreography will come. Annie’s powers and Crimson Countess’s powers got better effects compared to 1, where the screen just got whited out.

[@theman5458]

really dont think homelander should lose his powers, the reason why he is so scary is because he could pretty much one shot most of the characters with proper blood lust (exluding soldier boy) and each scene is extremely tense because we know he could, it would be cool for his psychology but ion know just seems kind of pointless?

[@VictoriaClerici]

but he does have to be defeated at some point tho and that won't happen unless he's weakened. This is of course assuming the series is not supposed to end as an L for The Boys and an upkeep of the status quo as it is for supes, which wouldn't evem be too crazy for the writers to decide given the cynicism the story portrays already

[@cameronkerr5118]

Can't believe you've brought up BCS and made me cry over kim in a The Boys YT vid

[@slicedice4807]

I got so confused when you were talking about Better Call Saul. I love it when people talk about my favorite show.

[@nickasaro8789]

I like the idea of Homelander losing his powers. I can’t think of a fate he would find worse than having to live the rest of his life as a normal human. that would probably be a better fate, narrative wise than just straight up killing him. Also another interesting wrinkle if they went that route would be to have vought create another Superman-like or equally as powerful supe to take his place and then he realizes he wasn’t that special after all, seeing how easily replaceable he is.

[@lfroncek]

I think it comes out that Stormfront is Homelander's mom. The public shame will drive him into the arms of the only group who will accept him (her followers) and he will find making people fear him is better than love and become even more of a bad guy.

[@oneupnerd]

4:13 dude yes!!! Spot on, it made zero sense to me when butcher decides “screw it, he hit Ryan, time to switch sides!”

[@NotAGoodUsername360]

It should be noted that The Boys will probably wrap up around Season 5 if Kripke's work on Supernatural is any indication so it needs to wrap up pretty soon.

[@Jonathan_Lawyer]

I really want next season to be home lander losing his power from soldier boy and being imprisoned for his crimes then the season after would be him in prison being tortured mentally by billy butcher and Stan Edgar visiting him

[@lukaslambs5780]

Every actor in this show I think is fantastic but Antony Starr is just next level excellent as Homelander.

[@deetee1763]

I really hope you do a Better Call Saul season 6 video. It’s my favourite show and this is my favourite KZbin channel so that would check a lot of boxes.

[@retrod08]

I think the problem with depowering Homelander is the fact that it will be too easy for him to get his powers back. There’s no reason to think he wouldn’t be able to get some compound V, and Kimiko showed that if you take it again, you can get your powers back like nothing ever happened to them.

[@anubusx]

I really want to see Tek Knight

[@ItsMatthias]

I could honestly see Soldier Boy's ability to remove a supe's powers be ineffective against Homelander. Like consider that all the people's power that he removed are all people who would've got V injected into them. Homelander being a *natural* supe might not be susceptible to that. Not that it won't hurt him or something. Just my thoughts

[@Chuck_vs._The_Comment_Section]

It is now known that 2 new characters will be introduced in S04: Firecracker and Sister Sage. It can be assumed that these will be the two new sups of the 7. Which raises the question of who in their right mind would even want to be in 7 after all that has been revealed about Homelander. - I am curious to see how the writers will answer this question.

[@smoothjulio]

The coup with Newman & Homelander working together. Ryan’s relationship with Homelander and Butcher. Whether or not Butcher will be able to find something to help his condition. And Mallory doing whatever with Soldier Boy. I think she will try to use whatever is inside him, that the Russians added to him, to make some sort of “cure” or solution to compound V.

[@LelouchLothric]

Would love for soldier boy to return for the finale.

[@Small_child_punter]

That’s my biggest hope. I’m not happy with the sendoff we got. He was just deemed the villain and was stuffed in a tube.

[@spliffsforbreakfast]

In season 4 I would love see The Deep fall deeper into depression because he truly is subhuman.. and I’d appreciate just a little more ATrain or at least him eventually not taking Homelander’s shit and actually contributing to a fight as the fastest man alive. HL doesn’t have many speed feats either so I’d put my money on ATrain..

[@alanpennie8013]

It would be nice to see A - Train do something actually heroic. He was trying to be a better person last season. He even apologized to Hughie.

[@acemerceramv8561]

Homelander has an explicit speed of Mach 1.5 (he flew that fast looking for Translucent) and also outsped an explosion to save Butcher (end of Season 1) A-Train was stated to have an speed of 1000 mph (Mach 1.3) and he apparently outsped a bullet as a kid. So by feats and statements, Homelander should be faster (Funnily enough, they used A-Train sounds on Homelander during that Diabolical canon episode)

[@lucasguedes822]

I've been pondering about powerless Homalender for a wwhile now and I love the possibilities

[@doctorrusty]

100% agree on Butcher's flip on Soldier Boy! We got three seasons of having it drilled into our heads that the only reason this guy hasn't thrown in the towel is because of his deep and profound hatred for Homelander. He throws that all away because Homelander brought Ryan to the battle of Vought Tower? Really disappointed with this choice.

[@Sweaty_Ken]

What I would like for the Boys Season 4, are some good British accents for once

[@Corporatekilling]

I was actually really surprised to hear people were disappointed with the finale. I thought the ending fights were pretty great and I felt butcher obeying his wife’s dying wish by protecting Ryan made sense to me. My only issue came afterwards were the episode felt like it kept being at the endpoint but also kept going. The formatting and pacing was a little weird in the end segment

[@matriarchalmonarch2752]

I imagine that if homelander loses his powers that he won't tell anyone, if anything he'll try his hardest to maintain the image of being above everyone else. Inevitably this would lead to him relying on temp V for restoring his power, speeding up the timetable on his downfall even more

[@matriarchalmonarch2752]

He could try to restore it completely with regular V like with kimiko but that would require him to trust in someone else learning of his vulnerability

[@MasonMcLeodFilms]

I’m just gonna come right out and say it. I think Anthony Starr as Homelander is one of my top 5 favourite TV performances ever, and maybe even top 3. Right up there with Rust Cohle and Walter White

[@jackalackb17]

I hope we get to see Deep try out a new persona as a darker version of the character, with hair and tattoos like Jason Mamoa, and utterly failing to be taken seriously. I also want to see new supes and a new look homelander 7. The other thing I would desperately love to see is wolfenstein, mech suit Stormfront. I dont believe she killed herself, just because Ashley said so and there was a bloodstain on the bed and perhaps Edgar has her hidden away to use for another "rebranding" opportunity.

[@Wishmaster787]

Can Supes even get tattoos? Most Supes have pretty high durability so the needle probably won't pierce the skin.

[@jackalackb17]

@@Wishmaster787 I feel like Deep would wear fake ones. Also Supes can at least be injected. Thats how A-Train killed popclaw.

[@Wishmaster787]

@@jackalackb17 That's right I forget about that

[@RedShogun13]

100% on more Soldier Boy. He’s such an awesome anti-hero imo. Like you can tell he’s flawed but like he said he’s not *totally* a bad guy/irredeemable. Also it’s badass to see Jensen Ackles as the only character who can truly go toe to toe with Homelander. Captain America vs Superman. Awesome.

[@sweetolbrew1724]

I can see homelander pretending he didnt lose his powers and everyone still being scared of him till something happens, like Ryan and him are on stage, showing off his son but Ryan punches him as a "look at how strong my son is" moment but it actually absolutely fractures his arm this would only be weird to the boys and some at vought, but not everyone else as it'd simply say "whoa he really is strong"

[@notthemuppet]

i'd love a depowered and in custody Homelander in Season 5 that still has large support from his base despite all the evidence of wrongdoing, I think it'd really align well with the trump metaphor they seem to be leaning into with him

[@VictoriaClerici]

and maybe his supporters somehow get ahold of Compund V and try to release him with their new powers, wouldn' that be f*cking crazy? that would bring a lot of nuance to the situation. Imagine The Boys having to decide if hundreds of thousands of people completely deluded by propaganda they've been fed their entire lives deserve to live or not