Whey Protein vs BCAAs vs EAAs - When to Take & Avoid

[@soph8992]

Took me so darn long scouring the internet to get these questions answered and bam here they are in one simple video, love that.

[@davidking9854]

Agreed!! Just got some essential aminos, and it says to take them on an empty stomach. Apparently that’s ludicrous. I will have them with my shake post workout, as I train fasted as well.

[@Kris.m__544]

BCAAs have radically improved my after workout recovery that I was struggling with. That`s funny, I wouldn`t say they are pointless at all.

[@Bad_1nfluence]

I second that. BCAAs post workout with a meal has made a noticeable difference.

[@chuquihuanca]

He is talking a lot non sense i respect that but is very confusing especially when he advertising his coffee thing too lol

[@baldersn4474]

In what way ? More likely its your protein powder and carbs post workout not BCAAS

[@saltrock9642]

This info and the studies I read where sarcopenia was reduced in the elderly when EAA’s were supplemented is enough for me. I’m on board, thanks.

[@lightbeingpontifex]

Also no muscle loss from a fast,,,

[@BobbyToombs]

One point not touched on was the digestive factor. The digestion and metabolic wasting from protein can the deciding factors when incorporating EAA, which bypass the liver and are absorbed within 23 minutes.

[@thankyouand3260]

Nice argumentation, but there is 1 thing you don't realize: If you take BCAAs "in between" protein meals, it is still doing a lot, because your body has always tons of EES floating in your system → assuming you get your daily req proteins. It's a myth that your body utilizes all proteins within a short time after ingestion → this is a long process which spreads over several hours, many different stages. Meaning you wouldn't actually ever be able to "sneak in" BCAAs into a "EEA-free body". However I think only a real world test would show if it all makes any difference.

[@Sinra364]

100% agree with you. Atlast a comment which gives real knowledge 👍🏻

[@dominus6695]

I took BCCA's in the morning and after work (always with protein-rich food) and it feels great, so it's better than nothing. Will try EAA's someday.

[@jond.6816]

Great video Thomas! Glad your pushing this eaa and protein combination post workout. Seems like no one is talking about the benefits. Funny how bcaas are marketed like crazy when really their pointless. Lately been experimenting with perfect amino(eaa's) by bodyhealth. Good supplement.

[@debbiewallace4907]

OMG I am an old gal (70) and have a rare muscle disease. "IBM" Inclusion Body Myositis and have been trying to figure out ways to maybe slow down the muscle loss. Finally, someone breaks down this confusion. I use Whey Protein, EAAs, and Collogen in my protein drinks. I just bought a small bottle of BCAAs, so I won't be out too much $ Thank you so much I am no longer confused.😃

[@nunyadambidniss]

Hey you might also wanna add B-vitamins to your treatment there :) B-6 combines with the Glycine in the Collagen to make Dopamine ;) Also add Copper &Sulphur, Both needed to build connective tissue.

[@debbiewallace4907]

@@nunyadambidniss Thankyou

[@debraphillips5729]

My Husband and I absolutely love the videos. We have been participating in KETO Almost 2 years now. Good weight loss , & a bunch of body improvements, including our Vision.

[@alexking4341]

Solid overview man! Thanks for clarifying this complex stuff.

[@elizabethcrowley5921]

BCAAs with extra leucine plus citrulline preworkout gives me a big noticeable boost of energy. Protein shakes preworkout cause indigestion. I do the goat protein shake with creatine postworkout.

[@jmatt98]

GOAT like or 🐐?

[@christopherebhabha]

Great video sir; so helpful info on protein synthesis, much appreciated

[@forisl4146]

Great video. The advice is very appreciated. 💪🏽🙌🏽

[@saleemayoub7494]

Omg this is just the info I was recently looking for bro, thanks man

[@Myspiritualrhythm]

I started taking EAA's when I run and they are AMAZING. I used to run off of sugar...I'm older now and EAA'S are mind blowing. Sugar doesn't work as well. Not sure why. I don't take them with protein either. What's going on?

[@KJB0001]

nermal, what brand and where do you buy them?

[@gerdz101]

One advantage of taking EAAs instead of Whey is that EAA is not inflammatory while Whey is.

[@Zahaaaaaaalmousawi]

What? How is whey inflammatory??

[@DiegoJordanA]

@@Zahaaaaaaalmousawi very personal opinion here but for me, being lactose intolerant whey is close to deadly lol, I'd think lactose is what makes it inflammatory

[@johnscott3893]

Always thought BCAA's should be consumed separately as body prioritizes their absorption over other aminos, i.e. 20 mins or so before and immediately after workout with slight gap of say 10-15 mins before consuming a shake (stacked with 10g of glutamine). May start to replace BCAA's with EAA's tho' after hearing this. Another thing... as soon as started to consume BCAA's many years ago my DOMS dramatically reduced, that said a shortfall in any aminos prob creates same situ... remember running out of lysine couple years back and couldn't believe how sore I became post workout without it.

[@simply_felix]

Great video Tom. I particularly like the way it ended.. just natural, relatable, less robotic.. Nice job! Love your content.

[@TODOMATIO]

Thomas there was another study saying that BCAAS compete w each other (leucine with isoleucine and valine for their carrier tryptophan) so they inhibit that MPS, or more accurately they only slow it down by 1 hr. Therefore it's not harmful to have BCAAS because we get them all the time from foods, but for the best MPS they say to take 4-5 mg of leucine only, post workout , and about 30 minutes before your post workout shake. So assuming we all go to the gym we'll all have a shake not "post workout meal", and they recommend 40 g of whey protein for people over 40. If you're in your 20s you can get away with 25-30 g.

[@Soxruleyanksdrool]

1. Still don't understand why anyone would take only BCAAs. If you're getting your aminos by supplementing already, just take EAAs. This way, you're getting ALL NINE essentials, which includes the three BCAAs plus six more. Unless I'm missing something, this seems like a no-brainer to me. 2. Do EAAs count as protein? What I mean is, I'm on keto and my goal is 75% of calories from fat, 20% from protein, and 5% from carbs. If I take BCAAs, do they count as protein to the point where I have to eat more fat to still meet my macro percentages? 3. I am also 16/8 intermittent fasting from 9pm-1pm. I have coffee in the morning, but try as I might, I cannot stand the taste of black coffee. I must have some kind of dairy in it, and I don't care for coconut or almond "milk". So I put heavy cream and either stevia or monkfruit in my coffee. My question is: I know the coffee I drink is keto, but is the heavy cream breaking my fast? Thanks in advance for y'alls help.

[@prayashpanda7884]

Fantastic! This should have many more views!

[@benzcrazy]

Great information Thanks ,You are the real deal !!!!!!

[@royvalentine5760]

underrated channel burh

[@arnoldpillay9834]

Thank you for this video.... started to understand about these products

[@Texan806]

Love this video. Taking the Bro science out of the marketed drinks and getting you the exact info you need for building muscle and recovering. Thanks Thomas!

[@jamespawelek-lacey1778]

This video is literally all bro science. Did you hear him quote a single study?

[@josephbongiorno2265]

I have heard contradicting information from Dr. Berg who says you don't want to take EAA's with a meal as the two proteins will compete with one another. His Keto Essential Amino supplement is advised to be taken on an empty stomach. I am of course not saying they should be avoided in conjunction entirely, just maybe not at the exact same time. EAA's are absorbed very quickly (~23min).

[@kawagonzo6951]

i was thinking the same!

[@DarkoFitCoach]

eaas are complete therefore synthesis can occur, bcaa just stimulate it but lack complete profile thus process stops.

[@VexcomStudios]

THANK YOU FOR ELABORATING ON THAT.

[@mchezzi]

Thank you, that was very helpfull, now I have done my choice and will go with the EAAs.

[@primaballerina84]

So. No more L-glutamine in my workout drink... I'll stick to only a teaspoon of vitamin C powder and add the L-glutamine to my post beef protein shake Fasted lifting is awesome btw! Insane mind muscle connection 💪🏻

[@sandyguerra6570]

What whey protein or EAA's do you recommend?

[@achristfollowingturnbullma8237]

Just going to say Casein protein contains 9g of EAA’s Zinc and Magnesium I add L leucine to mine to get 4x the absorption.

[@user-hv8jw1fx7x]

Promix has the best stuff on the market

[@TheFirstAmendment]

First comment here man. I love your videos very Informal content. I’ve learned so much. God bless I hope you have a prosperous 2021

[@randumb2295]

Will EAAs have the same 4X effect with plant-based protein as it does with whey or animal protein?

[@jgmene]

great great question...

[@honey_nandifitness7702]

Yes

[@norsketilbakeblikk3717]

Whey is even leaner than plant based protein so absolutely

[@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse]

@@norsketilbakeblikk3717 whey protein has a higher protein utilization than plant proteins, so the speculative 4x increase from plant based will still be less than the 4x from whey. Animal protein is superior

[@lambisi]

Plant based protein is bunk.

[@bpw681]

Can you recommend a good EAA and Whey protein product?

[@suziqsnow]

Thank you as always

[@Outsider_aa]

great video, thanks for the references!

[@djamaleddine4684]

I agree with you, but I've been following for so long and you adviced us once to sip on BCAA's during the day, and you said that's what you do 😒🧐

[@gerdz101]

Yeah I find some of his advice really shady.

[@Piccolo_Re]

When I take EAAs before my workouts, I notice a massive difference. I feel full of energy. I can’t take whey before workouts because it makes me feel bloated and especially on days I run, no whey protein whatsoever before workouts. But I can run excellently and lift well on EAAs.

[@pedrogomez3168]

Top knotch video boss keep up the solid work. Any thoughts on carnitine for pre work out?

[@Revolution-tl5wo]

Yo, I understand your love for intermittent fasting, training with not food, and ketogenic diets-- but not everyone can fast for as long as the recommended period, work out without food energy, and eat without carbs. Low blood sugar is a thing, and some of us can't sustain workable sugar levels with these practices. Could you build that into your videos so people like me have some alternatives to get the same result

[@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse]

Are you in poor health? I ask because your body is supposed to be able to moderate sugar levels and we are designed to fast. So if you have blood sugar issues, you're likely in poor health.

[@kevinburtnick7818]

BCAAs are definitely beneficial! Especially if youre coming up short in your protein intake. BCAAs have great brain benefits as well.

[@DarthNoshitam]

So is it better to do one scoop of whey and one scoop of EAA, or just two scoops of whey?

[@TheTeeDay]

Great info. Their are still people out there pushing that EAA’s are a direct replacement for protein shakes.

[@siddharthchowdaryvunnam525]

So this is how Thomas responds to my comment from his previous video. 😅

[@elianahernandez726]

Hey Thomas this is so helpful thanks I have been following you for a while and on your last few videos you have mentioned EEAs but you have not mentioned what you recommend there are so many different brands out there that am not sure what to get can you let us know what you use.

[@achristfollowingturnbullma8237]

I’d recommend EVL

[@I_have_been_sent]

I recommend just eat complete protein sources don’t give in to broscience!

[@achristfollowingturnbullma8237]

@@I_have_been_sent on a recent video he states taking EAA’s with added L Leucine whilst taking your whey leads to 4x more protein absorption Dr Ekberg said we only absorb/use 17% of whey for muscle building so listening to Tom and going for that 4x as much absorption is not bro science but science = 61%

[@HalfHotHalfCold]

Finally someone telling the truth about amino acids! instant subscription

[@TheREDSKAL]

Whats your opinion of adding whey protein to your preworkout coffee? Coffee increases cortisol and improves insulin sensitivity and whey on the other hand decreases cortisol and spikes insulin so they might counteract each other. Having caffeine for performance benefits and whey for increased protein synthesis makes sense for me as a preworkout supplement.

[@MrPAULONEAL]

Cortisol is a stress hormone.

[@baldersn4474]

Brilliant video really is...Im ditching my BCAAS and gonna take EEAS and whey protein instead..Or a chicken sandwich etc...I wonder thought why are you do keen on working out in a fasted state ?

[@giovannidominoni]

But about taking whey proteins adding 2-3 grams of Leucine? It's cheaper and should get the same results of whey + EAA, or am I wrong?

[@jtrover]

What the body can synthesis on its own in order to survive is very different than what is ideal for optimal nutrition.

[@notrandom2]

What ratio? how much EAA per... 30g of whey protein?

[@codygrimes9072]

This might be a silly question, but I can't seem the find the research you use for the slide at the 7:57 mark in the video. Would you want to drink the EAA's before the solid protein meal, with/alongside the protein meal, or shortly after eating the protein meal? Thanks in advance!

[@dhanrajsingh3735]

Thomas If im eating my fruits before my moring weight training Then should i sip my eaa intra workout or should i finish my workout and have my eaa and whey protein together?

[@starfish7558]

Thomas, Great subject. What to do about the awful taste of EAA?

[@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse]

But a brand that makes it taste good like Bodyhealth

[@thomasburke9531]

For me ever since I started taking essential aminos and branch chained aminos my body has reacted in almost an unbelievable way.I do fast train and want an insulin burst while I workout. I’m not saying that you are wrong I’m just saying for me I have had unbelievable results .

[@gabe75001]

Do you take before or after workout?

[@thomasburke9531]

@@gabe75001 30 mins before with creatine. It has been a game changer for me . I have never be so pleased with the way I look. Every where I go I am getting compliments on my body. I feel great too.

[@gabe75001]

@@thomasburke9531 do you take anything post workout?

[@thomasburke9531]

@@gabe75001 no

[@thomasburke9531]

Alpha Amino!!

[@navnish7458]

I gained good info

[@falconflylow]

Why is benefitial to train during fasting? Is it to burn fat or are some other benefits from that?

[@HaZeyTheViking]

If there is leucine in protein powder why do you need eaas added to your protein powder? Is it because your body doesn't need to break down the eaas as much as the protein powder?

[@MalindoWe]

Not sure if I heard this correct but BCAAs are better at preventing muscle break-down compared to EAAs

[@luluyuyu5547]

I dont take my dialy 200g of proteins, and whey is kinda expensive Would taking EAAs be effiecient?

[@BAFM510]

Whats your opinion on frog fuel?

[@ronaldkoch2766]

EAAs are recommended for people with CKD to get their required amounts of protean without putting the strain on the kidneys that whole proteins do. That is, when keto analogue amino acids are cost prohibitive. Thomas I wish you would do some videos about proper nutrition for people with CKD. Your videos about insulin resistance are great, but CKD often goes along with insulin resistance.

[@christian8010]

If it's the leucine that's the main component, isn't Bcaa (60% leucine) almost as good as eaa to pair with whey protein in a shake?

[@m.x.]

Your body can't use protein directly for building muscle, but rather breaks it down into amino acids first. So, why not just taking amino acids directly and, therefore, saving your digestive system for doing all that work?

[@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse]

Actually thats why EAAs are so helpful. They are 99% utilized unlike food that has tons of waste. I dont think Thomas really understands the EAA research because its supposed to be taken by itself to maximize absorption. Take EAAs by themselves and then make sure to eat high quality protein throughout the day.

[@kawagonzo6951]

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[@kawagonzo6951]

@@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse boom!

[@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse]

@@kawagonzo6951 bam!

[@michaelmartinmonefeldtvitt5741]

What about keasin and eaa together ? what your opinion about it

[@osvaldoarroyo1159]

So typically ill have a big bowl of low fat greek yogurt and berries along side my pre-workout drink. Then I'll take my EAA's to sip on while I workout,then come home and have my post workout drink (sodium,potassium, carbs and cluster dextrin) as im making my post workout meal..am I doing all that right to optimize protein synthesis?

[@viktor8119]

Is 7g EAA, 3g HMB and 10-15g collagen drink a good choice for post workout? What do you think?

[@akashchaudharry]

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[@ClaimClam]

sure buddy

[@SchuyFit]

Super interesting.. So leucine + protein = better synthesis?

[@misaamane476]

is primal kitchen whey protein okay? i’m trying to build muscle and don’t think the excess protein would hurt but if it spikes insulin i don’t want it

[@silviamcallister1727]

Please could recommend EAA. Y tried couple of the. They were horribly sweet. Is there any eaa just plain?

[@kimdavis7812]

Can I just take leucine with my protein after I lift 🏋️‍♀️? Or does it have to be EAA’s? Thanks

[@giovannidominoni]

that's the same doubt I have. It does make sense to me

[@omarghazali3097]

Thanks. Kinda confused on this topic

[@cholakicha]

I also train fasted. I break my fast with a protein shake with EAAs and BCAAs. So in this case the BCAAs are obsolete?

[@shoydaru7]

I'm assuming so since the amino acids found in bcaas are in eaa. Eaas having 6 other aminos on top.

[@perserverance333]

But Dr. Berg said don't consume whey protein powder.

[@jeremymerry7967]

every specialist has different opinions

[@tonystyles21]

What's a good link for a brand of EAA that are legit and not loaded with fillers or anything synthetic

[@djamaleddine4684]

There is Kaged Muscle, they have a fermented unflavored BCAA's, you can add them into your post workout protein powder to get more results, OST of other brands extract their BCAA's and EAA's from duck's feathers 🤦🤦🤦

[@d2mini]

OptimalAmino.com are the cheapest, best tasting and no crap in it.

[@HolzHause]

I personally like redcon1's eaa powder. Some flavors are better than others but im pleased with them.

[@heatherberger2450]

this is why people don't watch to many commercials

[@kratospana845]

Good explanation! Me I only take BCAA with casein just to have enough leucin as the other EAA are enough in casein but there is less leucin than whey. But that's my personal strategy. Just another thing : you don't have to mention citrulline, because not only it isn't present in whey, but also it is one of those amino acid that our body doesn't use to synthetize protein, like taurin. It has other biological roles, but not to construct protein muscle.

[@maxgunn8915]

I’m considering getting an EAA supplement. I’m currently using ON’s Gold Standard Whey which contains 11g EAAs (5.5g of those being BCAAs.) Can/should I add the addition EAAs, or are the EAAs in my Whey sufficient?

[@JeffreyFate]

I get my whey and creatine from Naked Nutrition. They don't have EAAs. Got a solid recommendation for EAAs?

[@jelaniwoodstv]

thank you!

[@fearnot7500]

👍Best of the best answer on EAA BCAA whey protein.Thank you!

[@thomasjones3988]

Hey Thomas new to Channel. Doing the fasting how to I go about it working overnights. How does it work with gastric sleeve surgery 3 yrs ago

[@KilledKenny01]

Training fasted is normally not recommended. But some folks are happy with that… so who am I to judge. BCAAs are a not necessary to supplement. A pre workout meal is working for me. EAAs could be a nice addition…. But also not really necessary. I eat a kind of quark before. Low in fat and sugar, but very high in protein. Almost all amino acids included. I usually add some chicken protein… but it’s not necessary. After workout I get a whey protein shake. That’s enough and you can safe money on EAAs and BCAAs. Protein synthesis is a process taking place around 48-72h. Just make sure to get enough protein… preferable 3-4 times a day. If you do fasting… then may god have mercy on your soul… 😂

[@katiegray007]

I'm just finding this. BodyHealth always advises to take their EAAs Without any other protein; so now this has my confused. They essentially make it sound like their supplement is Wasted with other proteins, but why? Will our bodies be able to absorb both the EAAs and real protein all at once? Also, do you have any thoughts on Genepro protein? Is that really a protein or does it work more like EAAs? Trying to understand this all. Thanks!

[@metal0n0v]

Eat protein. Farts mean nitrogen is released because the protein I eat is turned into glucose. Introduce EAA's. No farts. Prolly synthesis occurs.

[@jasonclark5856]

Ok I have a question...I take BCAAs in pill form in the morning with a healthy sandwich and a multivitamin. I don't workout until night time. I snack through the day then I do the sandwich at night. I'm losing weight, but I want to be in a comp phase. I'm pretty big...will I get there doing this or what do I need to change up?

[@californiabeachradio2243]

I have eaa all the time it works great for me in a fasted state

[@martinmiller6762]

Hey Thomas! You still put meat, in a blender for a protein shake?

[@OreMan]

What about my citrulline shake? Should I take it with the meal or 20-30 mins before the meal? 🤔

[@Earlyman88]

Citruline, theanine and beta alanine before workout.

[@OreMan]

@@Earlyman88 You mean - on empty stomach then, right?

[@Earlyman88]

@@OreMan correct, in fasted state

[@emilybarry9410]

I have heard (dr. Gabriel Lyon) that BCAA"s can be helpful for vegans to consume. Do you have thoughts on this? And, thanks for your info buddy!

[@frankiesfairyboytwinkclub]

Just eat meat

[@gerdz101]

@@frankiesfairyboytwinkclub Some people has difficulties digesting meat. This advice is so bad.

[@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse]

@@gerdz101 meat is easier to digest than plants so 🤷‍♂️

[@lancer717]

Absolutely. Especially if they take creatine

[@Jinson_Jose]

Is it safe to take pre workout, intra workout, whey protein and Creatine in same day, every day over a course of 2 months?

[@360undead]

Yes but high stimulant pre workout can cause heart problem. Everything else can be supplement everyday because they are natural as if you eaten eggs or meat

[@zaraonline812]

Amazing arms mate 👍🏻

[@ridgemckee97]

Question why wouldn't we do it pre-work out... It seems logical to activate protein breakdown and anabolic state during the workout just as much to put extra stress on your muscles?

[@Kimyumoto16]

I believe it’s because you start spiking insulin and your body uses energy to break it down when it can use that same energy to fuel your workout. So you’re better off training fasted.

[@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse]

@@Kimyumoto16 EAAs don't affect your fast they enhance it. Ive been doing this for years.

[@jonathanstokes1124]

My pre-workout i use is beetroot, apple cider vinegar and caffeine. With this interrupt fasting?

[@marcdupont9086]

beetroot does!

[@KJB0001]

beetroot is another name for sweetener. it has 9 grams of sugar in a cup. So yes, any calorie ruins fasting.

[@SayCheeseM3dia]

Whats the best way to cut Bulk+HIIT

[@megahikari379]

So in a way should i take bcaa and eea together?

[@lancer717]

BCAAs are included in EAAs

[@johnkap5740]

Hi, I'm new to your channel. I wanted to ask, is it true that having a protein shake after my workout will knock me out of ketosis?? I've started keto this week and I've been having a protein shake after my workout for the last 5 years. Its a healthy one, but I was told that because whey protein is to lean, will knock you out of Ketosis. If this is true, can I add 2 tablespoons of peanut butter inside the shake? Will in counter this effect and keep me in Ketosis?

[@zenmind4711]

It's trivial. After a workout lactic acid recycling back to glucose (Corey/lactic acid cycle) and glycogen recovery are prioritized in the liver and ketogenesis may be somewhat inhibited temporarily regardless due to increased insulin necessary to transport glucose back to the muscles. It's unavoidable with exercise . So at this time you're not really losing much if any by consuming the protein. The benefits and need for protein outweighs any loss. The peanut butter isn't necessary and may actually have more negative effect than positive considering the effect the mix of fat and carbs may have on the (Randle cycle) and( INCRETIN system GLP-1,GIP ), possibly inducing momentary insulin resistance and an increased insulin response rather than a buffering or blunting effect. Cycling in and out of ketosis due to natural occurrence isn't bad. Chronic stress, poor sleep and processed carbs/sugar/fructose are certainly unfavorable reasons that induce insulin resistance. Insulin sensitivity and metabolic flexibility should be the goal of most ketogenic diets not necessarily ketosis itself . During glycogen recovery time after a workout may be the best time to back load protein or even some carbs with minimal consequences or time out of ketosis. Empty muscles will soak up the glucose and insulin and ketosis will resume afterwards. Those who practice low carbohydrate diets are usually insulin sensitive. A nice insulin spike after a workout is very anabolic. More so than in an individual that is more insulin resistant, so the anabolic effect of back loading protein or even some carbs directly after a workout is worth the loss of some keytones if gaining or maintaining muscle is desired. Also consider the insulin countering effects of glucagon and epinephrine that will increase as well when you consume protein. Glucagon will counter act insulin and promote glycogenolysis and gluconeogenisis in the liver which will speed up glycogen recovery and ultimately returning to a ketogenic state. There is recent research by radio isotope amino acid tracing that shows very little protein is used by the liver for gluconeogenisis , so if you're not consuming carbs the glucose is being formed from breaking down triglycerides /fat. The main point of that is regardless of whether or not your body is using more glucose for fuel at times than others if the glucose is coming from fat and not dietary carbs then you're still utilizing body fat or dietary fat regardless of the rate of ketolysis ,lipolysis or beta oxidation. If you haven't already, check out the channel Low Carb Down Under. You may find this video interesting .Dr Benjamin Bikman - Insulin Vs glucagon :The relevance of dietary protein. Also on Ivor Cummins channel, Gabor Erdosi :The road to an early death starts in your fat cells Part 1of 2 Gabor Erdosi :part 2 of 2 , Insulin, Incretins and the perils of processed food carbs. Hope this was helpful. Take care and good luck.

[@johnkap5740]

@@zenmind4711 Wow, thanks so much my friend! You seem quite knowledgeable on this! Are you a nutritionist or anything like that? And in short, you are saying I should be fine with just a regular healthy protein shake after my workout?

[@lightbeingpontifex]

Keto is 75% fat,,, so if you take 20 grams of whey you'll have to add 60 grams of fat to that,,, otherwise that meal would be psmf and replenish glycogen stores a little bit kicking you out of ketosis for a couple hours since only 15% of whey gets used,,,

[@DjW1986]

I just remembered why I'm no longer subscribe to this channel......RAMBLING!!!!!

[@ArthurMorgansDeadHorse]

Best case scenario in my training is to take EAAs fasted and before bed and make sure that I eat tons of high quality protein throughout the day. The benefit of EAAs is that you can drink them and maintain a fast and they are highly bioavailable. If I don't drink EAAs my recovery time is increased. Bodyhealth makes a great EAA supplement.

[@BigTBad]

So, I never eat breakfast, is taking whey protein shake. Is this any good?

[@I_have_been_sent]

But you are eating breakfast if you have the whey shake.

[@77ARATH]

Thanks!!