Which Adepta Sororitas Order to Choose to Collect in Warhammer 40K? Best Sisters of Battle to Pick?

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Auspex Tactics

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@McWerp
@McWerp 3 жыл бұрын
Paint your own colours and swap between rules as you wish. There are so many cool ways to build sisters in this book locking yourself into just one feels like a mistake.
@Nianfur
@Nianfur 3 жыл бұрын
It's a shame gw expect players to play as painted.
@18120polls
@18120polls 3 жыл бұрын
@@Nianfur Neat little loophole in the Sisters Minoris category for this though. There is a Minoris order that lets you simply copy one of the 6 Major orders. So paint a custome scheme and run them "technically" as "In The Footsteps of Saints." and that solves everything.
@fallofcamelot
@fallofcamelot 3 жыл бұрын
They way I read it you don’t get the relic if you use an order minoris and copy one of the main orders. I’m not sure you get the strategem or the warlord trait either? Can anyone clarify this?
@FlyingNinjaish
@FlyingNinjaish 3 жыл бұрын
This is how I run my adMech. "Oh yeah, we're Stygies, we're just disguises as some guys with blue paint disguised as Mars, which is why we're praying extra hard today." It's even lore-friendly!
@philsho36
@philsho36 3 жыл бұрын
@@fallofcamelot I just had a look, you gain the strat and warlord trait but not the relic. If you don't care about the relic that's fine, but beneficence for example is pretty nice I think.
@lukeathing6753
@lukeathing6753 2 жыл бұрын
I like how he explained the patreon bonuses in the same way he describes the pros of each order
@treebyful
@treebyful 3 жыл бұрын
I think you underestimate argent shroud they also let storm bolters more easily get in rapid fire range for blessed bolts and not only ignoring the -1 for moving with a heavy weapon (and getting to advance as well) it actually allows you to reach targets with multi meltas as only 24" now. My experience is bloody rose is hard hit by the removal of the advance and charge strategem as well as war hymn not really working when things are in a rhino beforehand
@Nasethz
@Nasethz 3 жыл бұрын
Still works as long as you spend 1cp for the strat to auto-sing
@ph34rthecute
@ph34rthecute 3 жыл бұрын
I've found the same thing Bloody Rose takes much more planning now to get the charge to be the same impact. With the change to Argent Shroud I get to keep playing my Retributors as agressivly as I did before and not feel the negatives that are there now.
@cousinzeke4888
@cousinzeke4888 3 жыл бұрын
Mistress of repentance gives out advance and charge with three D6 pick the highest, as well as plus one to wound. She's definitely worth the points.
@treebyful
@treebyful 3 жыл бұрын
@@cousinzeke4888 for one repentia unit nearby only in the command phase so you lose the safety of being in a rhino and extra 3" movement. Which both hurt with things like whirlwinds/squigbuggies around and teleporting unit getting an angle and sniping your repentia
@0neKingD0wn
@0neKingD0wn 3 жыл бұрын
Im thinking about starting a sisters army, learnt in this video that the iconic black armor red robes are our martyred lady, didnt knew didnt care either, The color scheme is so gorgous id paint em like that and play em as w/e order i want afterward. If someone object to my mini beeing of a wrong color scheme, do i really want to play with someone like that in the first place?
@FlyingNinjaish
@FlyingNinjaish 3 жыл бұрын
Play Our Martyred Lady to make Guardsmen feel good about their survival chances!
@dr3dg352
@dr3dg352 3 жыл бұрын
I'm starting Ebon Chalice for a combination of lore and the consistency granted by their rules. Also think their paint scheme is really sick!
@enjoybacon4946
@enjoybacon4946 Жыл бұрын
How'd this turn out for you? Im building my first real army and im going to do the same, any tips on good units?
@dr3dg352
@dr3dg352 Жыл бұрын
@@enjoybacon4946 I'm having a blast so far with the modelling part! I honestly haven't gotten to the gaming part yet, but here are some thoughts: - Palatines are a point efficient HQ choice. I have one for my 500 poi t army. - I'm throwing a 5 girl Repentia squad into the Rhino transport of my dominions to take advantage of the free 6" move granted by dominions. Repentia just went up 2 pts, so I'm gonna have to shave 10 points off of somewhere. :/ I like pairing them with dominions so they can get to the front line asap. - As I build more, I plan to really lean into the Ebon Chalice's flamer based stratagem! I'd love to get a retributor squad with four heavy flamers, probably with an Immolator transport for maximum redundancy. x) I also absolutely would love some seraphim with maxed out hand flamers for the same reason. - General tip, the Battle Sister Squad is such a versatile set! My first is my pool for troops, but I was also able to make my first heavy flamer with it. The second was used to split into one dominion squad and one celestian squad. Hope you have fun with your army! ❤️ I've been into Adepta Sororitas since the pewter miniatures!
@enjoybacon4946
@enjoybacon4946 Жыл бұрын
@@dr3dg352 Awesome thanks for the tips! I really want to play into the flamer playstyle and what i've heard is universally the battle sister squad box is really great for any style of play, im thinking of grabbing a box or 2 of that to have versatility with how to build. My buddy that's getting into it with me is orks so im kind of tailoring my army to be a fun match against that
@dr3dg352
@dr3dg352 Жыл бұрын
@@enjoybacon4946 oh heck yeah! Flamers certainly can torch orks. I'd love to hear how your games go!
@enjoybacon4946
@enjoybacon4946 Жыл бұрын
@@dr3dg352 I'll let ya know when we start facing off!
@josephskiles
@josephskiles 3 жыл бұрын
For me it was OML all the way way the color scheme is iconic along with the dyed hair and Bob cuts
@sevranararis7704
@sevranararis7704 3 жыл бұрын
Was hoping you'd talk about these girls sooner over later, as I am still debating on which order to play mine as. 😅
@holstatt6896
@holstatt6896 3 жыл бұрын
custom orders are best orders. they get any rules that fit their overall theme through edition changes, and look cooler than the book standards at least half the time.
@Toffeehammer
@Toffeehammer 3 жыл бұрын
Gotta say I think you're somewhat underselling Argent Shroud. I'd say they're the most improved of all the orders for sure. Their other things might not be anything to write home about but their conviction is so so good. Catch me putting a multi-melta in each one of my Battle Sister squads.
@DeathInTheSnow
@DeathInTheSnow 3 жыл бұрын
Oh it's Sorori- _tas!_ I kept searching for "Sorority women" and getting all sorts of weird results.
@ThKiller458
@ThKiller458 Жыл бұрын
Thinking of doing custom order with the bolter rule and the 1-2 transhuman, like dominion squads!
@JTKMoss
@JTKMoss 3 жыл бұрын
The Melta Order Minoris is pretty bonkers, recently played with the equivalent of 40 melta guns and it is frightening to say the least
@geoalpharius396
@geoalpharius396 3 жыл бұрын
I use either the ignore -1ap or the reroll a hit or wound dice, with the melta minoris conviction, depending on what I feel like that day. Amazing amount of damage potential.
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 3 жыл бұрын
I definitely want to consider it as a second detachment with a main order detachment
@AB-ik2nc
@AB-ik2nc 3 жыл бұрын
Try the flame thrower's one, it make not only for one realy scary anti infantry list, but let troop shot a full round of holy trinity at 20 inch range -1cp for holy trinity, 1cp to rise again the range of flame thrower, 1 combiflamer on the sister superior, 1 multimelta, equal 21/42 bolter shoot with the +1to wound-
@bryanwalters9574
@bryanwalters9574 3 жыл бұрын
My sisters are Order of the Wounded Heart. Daughter order of the Valorous Heart but with a similar color scheme to the Blood Rose (slightly darker red armor). That way I can switch between the two as the list may require and still remain lore accurate.
@Thornsworks
@Thornsworks 3 жыл бұрын
I personally think Argent Shroud stands out to me as Strong aswell. I played Valorous Hearts shooty lists with 8th sisters so was looking for a good crossover into 9th. Honestly, Argent Shroud feels like it aids alot of the nerfs that sisters received in regards to retributors etc. Reroll a hit per unit (as an ork player that includes a rokket boy in every 10 man deathskulls shooty blob) can be really fun and strong, thinking a melta in each basic sisters squad, advancing and plinking key targets at 24" without any -modifiers. On top of that, in lore friendly fashion, you can make a first turn move for free + advance with squads of Dominions 1x Combi Melta Supper and 4x Standard dominions equipped with artificer crafted storm bolters (Rapid Fire 2 S4 AP0 Damage2). Each squad equipped like this costs only 90 points. In rapid fire range thats 16 damage 2 shots + a Combi Melta shot for 90 points.
@sparkusclark6176
@sparkusclark6176 Жыл бұрын
This was useful. Thank you for taking the time to make it.
@pops91
@pops91 3 жыл бұрын
I like the idea of having 2 orders, one bloody Rose and one argent shroud or ebon chalice
@skoffs
@skoffs 3 жыл бұрын
Argent Shroud Patrol + Bloody Rose Vanguard is probably going to be a pretty commonly seen combo.
@americanjihad236
@americanjihad236 3 жыл бұрын
ARGENT SHROUD BABY! I’ve been bringing a paragon list with two units and let me tell you moving 8 inches then advances with multi meltas with no penalty’s then getting some re rolls really does the job.
@robertclark1669
@robertclark1669 10 ай бұрын
This was an extremely helpful video, the information is well presented and formatted correctly. Thank you from Austria.
@dracosummoner
@dracosummoner 3 жыл бұрын
I'm new to the Sisters (and the game) and was leaning toward Bloody Rose so I could COME ON AND SLAM AND WELCOME TO THE JAM, so this was extremely helpful, thank you!
@astormofwrenches5555
@astormofwrenches5555 3 жыл бұрын
Order of the Amaranthine Blade over here, everyone that can field a powersword, has a purple one. I don't actually play, but I do collect, paint, and make up my own lore because theres no GW Stasi around to haul me off for WrongPaint.
@Tzar-TZ
@Tzar-TZ 3 жыл бұрын
I would always recommend painting a custom scheme so u can use whichever order u feel like at the time
@thresholdhatesrevenant2620
@thresholdhatesrevenant2620 3 жыл бұрын
Valorous heart. They're very tough and look really good next to my black templars.
@RotaFury
@RotaFury 3 жыл бұрын
I just got sisters my self and plan to think up my own color scheme and making my own little faction of them (though may use of the big 6 from time to time).
@brianhuss9184
@brianhuss9184 3 жыл бұрын
Exploding 6s to hit on a multi melta Retributor Squad is pretty good. :)
@MrTrenttness
@MrTrenttness 3 жыл бұрын
This was a great summery of the sisters. I didn't realise what a large variety of orders there were. 🔥🎸🔥
@euanmacleod3738
@euanmacleod3738 3 жыл бұрын
The +1 to hit in melee in concert with the reroll to hit or wound seems great to me from the minoris rules. Making the sisters much less likely to whiff when they get the chance to unload their mega damage for their points just seems to play exactly to their style. It's virtually as good as bloody rose for melee lists, but it comes with also providing a powerful buff to the army's shooting phase as well. Given that so many lists are advancing into melee and melta range, I think those minoris rules together seem more valuable than the order rules. Maybe I'm too taken with the idea of a minoris faction.
@LordMarps
@LordMarps 3 жыл бұрын
Looking at picking up some Sisters, this has been not only really useful (as yours always are), but timely too. Many thanks!
@MrSanchezFrederico
@MrSanchezFrederico 2 жыл бұрын
Love your videos just thinking of starting a sisters army s o I really appreciate the stuff you have put out - you have the perfect voice for doing the London underground train announcements by the way. Keep up the good work!
@MehrumesDagon
@MehrumesDagon 3 жыл бұрын
One thing that I don't see covered anywhere is one of the convictions in the custom conviction sheet, I forgot the name of, but it went like this: if you pick it you cannot have any other conviction from custom order, and then you pick the major order, and get all the stuff from that order. And I am not sure if I understand the point of that conviction. Is it just there so you can have whatevere the heck colour scheme you like, whatever cool order name you invent and have rules of order majoris attached to it? EDIT: scrolled down the comments and found it - "in the footsteps of saints" and it allows you to copy everything except relic from the order majoris of your choice
@maximem.ste-marie3578
@maximem.ste-marie3578 3 жыл бұрын
is there another choice than Argent Shroud ? it's like the best parts of a lot of Adeptus Mechanicus' forge world. I disagree with medium. I would say it's strong.. at least
@nsoncrantful
@nsoncrantful 3 жыл бұрын
Order of the Valorous Heart, basically the Iron hands, with extra cool features
@RogalDorn01
@RogalDorn01 3 жыл бұрын
I am in the final stages of painting up the first 500 pt of my Order of the Fiery Tear and I have been soooo torn between the minoris rules for melta damage plus trading in extra miracle dice to turn them into sixes OR just picking the rule that lets your minor chapter play exactly like a major one and going Ebon Chalice. It is such a hard decision...
@emilywerner6190
@emilywerner6190 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for doing this! It did back up my feelings on my Sacred Rose sisters
@tristanlucas6531
@tristanlucas6531 3 жыл бұрын
So while I think that Ebon Chalice and Bloody Rose are the best, I personally play Sacred Rose and I have been very happy with them, and that is before the new codex that just makes what they do better with new amazing units. I could speak more into how I run my lists, but its mainly a character heavy balanced army with 1-3 Melta units, and 1-3 Melee beatsticks what have to either get targeted because they will mess up your day.
@nikot.9920
@nikot.9920 3 жыл бұрын
I'm definitely excited to paint up some Our Martyred Lady and Bloody Rose for sure. Love me some melee units
@ROffan
@ROffan 3 жыл бұрын
i played a 2k game few days ago i had ebon chalice, i meet the winner of local tournament he had the same list even though i told him i wanted to try my list bcus its 3 th time i playing with the need codex. he played dark angel i wiped his army i got around 700points of units left. but he won with 4 points more. Ebon chalice is damn strong
@kevinpatrick6080
@kevinpatrick6080 3 жыл бұрын
Great overview and review... as always!
@DraganGrazic
@DraganGrazic 3 ай бұрын
Zoraga Four 3rd moon, of Zoraga Prime. Primary convent for The order of the Rosary's oath, currently led by Reverea Dominulia. They're specializing in sabotage.
@vintorez2184
@vintorez2184 3 жыл бұрын
Debating starting a sisters army, seems youd be better off using either the shroud order, /custom one with melta buff and reroll one hit/wound, for all your shooty units, then bloody rose for all your melee units. There doesnt seem to be any downside to running multiple orders. Bar the fee for the second detachment, but 2 cp for a patrol, to shove all the melee (or shooty if you make your battalion/brigade melee focused) doesnt seem like a bad idea, especially as it opens more troops slots. Could have the troops slots in the melee detachment filled by basic sisters squads, with a power sword+combi weapon, very cheap unit, and can take 1 heavy/special weapon too.
@depalapili-pala4859
@depalapili-pala4859 3 жыл бұрын
I love my Celestine model so I'm going Our Martyred Lady regardless of rules haha
@kevlonk
@kevlonk 3 жыл бұрын
I mean, she can be used with any Order, so...
@depalapili-pala4859
@depalapili-pala4859 3 жыл бұрын
@@kevlonk but as a living saint of OML I like to take her as OML?
@rain6353
@rain6353 3 жыл бұрын
@@depalapili-pala4859 I feel the same. I like my order to be fluff appropriate with my characters. OML has always been my love, though splashing Bloody Rose now too :].
@M3RUL3Z
@M3RUL3Z 3 жыл бұрын
I enjoy argent shroud the most i'd say, since retributor squads absolutely slap with it and being able to advance lets you zip so easily across the battlefield. But sadly both of the players i play with run necrons+Admech, so valorous heart seems most useful for me because the boost to my squads' survivability is too important.
@S.A.S.H.
@S.A.S.H. 3 жыл бұрын
Great over view. And as I an still deciding on which order to go with, very timely for me.
@PizzaPartify
@PizzaPartify 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sacred Rose can make units of maximum model size quite powerful
@regalgiant1597
@regalgiant1597 3 жыл бұрын
15:51 AT used screech it was super effective!
@mlg_bob_ross8185
@mlg_bob_ross8185 3 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for someone to make this video for so long.
@CordovanSplotchVT
@CordovanSplotchVT 10 ай бұрын
I really want to make an Order of the Ermine Mantle army, but can't find any info on what they look like, other than their order decal.
@pqfire0950
@pqfire0950 2 жыл бұрын
Id like to do a sisters army at some point. Probably would do Martyred Lady or the Sacred Rose order.
@РенатТкаченко-ф8п
@РенатТкаченко-ф8п 3 жыл бұрын
I want to discuss a few things First: Warlord trait for Order of Our Martyred Lady actually says that you get auto 6MD for Sacrifice all the time, not just when character with this WT dies, here is the quote from wahapedia: WARLORD TRAIT: SHIELD BEARER This leader believes in facing every threat at the head of her Order, leading from the front. Each time an attack is allocated to this WARLORD, subtract 1 from the Damage characteristic of that attack (to a minimum of 1). Each time you gain a Miracle dice at the end of a phase as a result of Vengeance, if this WARLORD destroyed any enemy units during that phase, that Miracle dice is automatically a 6. Each time you gain a Miracle dice at the end of a phase as a result of Sacrifice, or if this WARLORD was destroyed during that phase, that Miracle dice is automatically a 6. Second: does MDs recieved from Martyred stratagem count as Sacrifice MDs? If yes, that a Warlord with Shield Bearer WT can generate 2+D3 auto 6 MDs Also I don't know if that was covered in previous videos on new SoB codex, but since the Chaplet of Sacrifice instructs you to keep the model on the table until the end of the phase, it must mean that all of it's rules still apply? Like auras, blessings and prayers/
@MarcosGarcia-et1qu
@MarcosGarcia-et1qu 3 жыл бұрын
I like Argent shroud. Building a force right now with alot of retributors. Gonna try to get more dominions and the castigator tank.
@RamRam.720
@RamRam.720 3 жыл бұрын
everytime i have a question my man here has it covered
@Wolfvonhinslik
@Wolfvonhinslik 3 жыл бұрын
I disagree with your assessment with Ardent Shroud and Sacred rose. I haven't played with Sacred rose yet, but AS being able to advance and still shoot everything normally including vehicles has been insanely powerful. being able to get your Rets into a perfect position to melt something. not even taking into account the free rerolls (effectively saving you several CP every round) Faith being so incredibly powerful Sacred Rose being able to generate so many more.
@wolfyace5150
@wolfyace5150 3 жыл бұрын
SR is pretty fun so far I got to cycle so many MD and there a really silly Cannoness with the WT and Relic from the order with the Blessing that makes wound rolls of 6 do a MW making the relic do 2 MW if you spend any MD +potentially more depending on how you roll. And strat is nice on Castigators with their 3Heavy bolters and 3d3cannon
@andrewstange6992
@andrewstange6992 3 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for this!! ty!!!
@MrEyescream
@MrEyescream 3 жыл бұрын
you could always bring a poll in adition to videos like this. I think i would play as order of the ebon chalice since i like flame weapons
@Chuckbreakseven
@Chuckbreakseven 3 жыл бұрын
My next army, purchased and sitting on the shelf waiting… for this very video it would seem 😃
@punchyMiddleEarth
@punchyMiddleEarth 3 жыл бұрын
Why decide to give Sisters the nerf hammer after several consecutive OP codex releases for Death Guard, Dark Angels, Drukari and Ad Mech?
@cousinzeke4888
@cousinzeke4888 3 жыл бұрын
It's not so much that they got nerfed, but they didn't get buffed. They were the last codex released in 8th and were pretty much designed with 9th in mind, so they didn't need much change going into 9th proper.
@aaronl7486
@aaronl7486 3 жыл бұрын
I’m new. Does your entire army have to be one order? Meaning... I plan to play 2000 point games, and will probably choose ebon chalice. Will every single unit technically need to be painted the black and white in order to technically get all these great benefits??? Or do you have certain little squads of each order all fighting together, that all make use of their own bonuses/perks
@alkair422
@alkair422 3 жыл бұрын
Im fairly new myself but you normaly structure your 2k army in several datachments. These datachments can be from other orders. Oviously they only get their own order bonous and not the bonous from the other orders in your army but thats fine. So yes you can play with troops from different armies but it has its pros and cons but you can certainly do it.
@ThePowerofD
@ThePowerofD 2 жыл бұрын
I am saving up for my first army I am new to the game I like the Adepta Sorioritas and orks but I am not sure to what to start with if i go for THe sisters should I buy the combat patrol or buy smaller packs? I will be mostly playing for fun with some friends who have been in to the hobby for 2 years almost. Thanks for your advice and ALL HAIL THE GOD-EMPEROR OF MANKIND!!
@Alexcrossley-n8x
@Alexcrossley-n8x Ай бұрын
what is the gameplay part of this? like is there rules for the different orders when you play one in 10th edition, and dose this also go for thing like playing other factions?? and finally if true where can I find these rules?
@bluejam2879
@bluejam2879 3 жыл бұрын
Argent Shroud Is #1
@americanjihad236
@americanjihad236 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been mopping up with Argent Shroud
@akselhansen304
@akselhansen304 3 жыл бұрын
I've asked a similar question earlier in regards to marines but... If I paint sisters in lore correct bloody rose colors does that lock the models to be played as bloody rose in tournaments? If that's the case What if I paint them in a paint scheme that isn't lore correct to any order can I then play them as any order? Imo the painting rules are kinda confusing for someone thinking about diving into the game
@Rakaziel
@Rakaziel 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. Only the other hand you get aRelic out of it (or in the case of Our Martyred Lady, several and a Character)
@CthulhuOnCam
@CthulhuOnCam 3 жыл бұрын
Just ordered the Ironjaw Starter pack from Elemental Games using your link :) Cheaper than Amazon and I feel less dirty lol
@wm1347
@wm1347 3 жыл бұрын
I keep seeing contradictory things on Valorous Heart. Do they automatically get the buff versus AP 2 attacks?
@kakashifuijin
@kakashifuijin 2 жыл бұрын
Just bought my 1st ever 40k combat patrol and I choose the sororitas my fav unit is the retributors so I guess it's Argent shroud for me
@NonApplicable1983
@NonApplicable1983 3 жыл бұрын
You choose Bloody Rose because they’re red and they look cooler. :)
@B__C__
@B__C__ 3 жыл бұрын
"Red ones go faster!" ~Gobstoppa da Evalastin'
@tobek284
@tobek284 3 жыл бұрын
@@B__C__ would be funny if they got additional movement when against orks.
@zilvertron
@zilvertron 2 жыл бұрын
Why isnt purple being used at all in 40K? Personally i think it would suit a chapter of Sisters like a glove. Currently using it as on of my main colors on my Raven guard and some Nuln oil to mute it a bit, looks absolutely stunning!
@NemFX
@NemFX 3 жыл бұрын
I want to make a force of Argent Shroud, to go with my Flesh Tearers, but.. the actual colour scheme sucks. I love the default black/red colour scheme for the sisters, but.. bluh. What to do. The Argent Shroud is for lore reasons (they were the ones who first found out what happened when the Flesh Tearers are told to 'kill everything')
@TARINunit9
@TARINunit9 2 жыл бұрын
Junith Erutia unfortunately kind of locked me into Martyr Lady, otherwise I would love to use Argent Shroud.
@Chris-jl6vp
@Chris-jl6vp 3 жыл бұрын
As someone who knows absolutely nothing about sisters aside from Celestine being a great guard ally... I'm very surprised a lot of their orders sit mostly in the medium and medium-strong tiers. Really it's Bloody Rose and Ebon Chalice carrying a large amount of their power. Quite the eye opener. Especially since I haven't really seen other orders aside from the Martyred lady, basically the box art order of Sisters.
@LordDeathNote
@LordDeathNote 3 жыл бұрын
His tier list is awful and really shows he doesn't know much at all about sisters competitively. Argent shroud is the top tier order atm , ec is not even close to top tier. Oml he overrated as well, and sacred rose isn't great but is as good or better than those right now for sure.
@tobek284
@tobek284 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, the bump on to hit for oml with wounded squads can really help, or sacrifice a cheap character to a difficult foe and your whole army gets +1 wound against it. I've noticed many non dedicated sisters players underestimating some of the orders that might appear lackluster at first, you have to be good at seeing connections and how to exploit it with units, tactics, or situations where it shines.
@TheAdmiralmorgan
@TheAdmiralmorgan 3 жыл бұрын
This feels like a bit of a miss... Argent Shroud is pretty strong, while Ebony Chalice less so...
@darko-man8549
@darko-man8549 3 жыл бұрын
I’m tempted to do like a shieldmaiden or vampire or chaos sisters
@Yuri77711
@Yuri77711 3 жыл бұрын
Argent shroud doesn't work when disembarking tho. p211 of the BRB: units that disembark count as having moved and never count as having remained stationary. Use valorous heart (ignore hit penalties strat), sacred rose (exploding 6s which is mathematically the same) or custom (18" half range for melta, superior than both if you can get in range) instead.
@Dementist
@Dementist 3 жыл бұрын
I thought this at first, but read most closely. That page shows that units getting out of transports can't Remain Stationary even if they don't otherwise move at all. However, the new Remaining Stationary FAQ doesn't make any mention of disembarking, but instead confirms that units with a Remaining Stationary rule in Shooting Phase can shoot as though they had Remained Stationary. The FAQ explicitly prevents Reinforcement units from benefitting, but since it didn't do the same for disembarking units...it seems Argent Shroud is all good.
@LordDeathNote
@LordDeathNote 3 жыл бұрын
This is not true, AS can indeed disembark and shoot with no penalties per the most recent FAQ for remain stationary.
@Yuri77711
@Yuri77711 3 жыл бұрын
@@LordDeathNote Recent FAQ only mentinons how units embarked on transports with remain stationary rule cannot disembark after their transport moved unless it has assault vehicle rule. RAW disembarking units never count as having remained stationary and AS wording doesn't explicitly say it ignores that rule. If anything, it only covers units that made a normal or advance moves.
@LordDeathNote
@LordDeathNote 3 жыл бұрын
@@Yuri77711 exactly, the most recent faq does not list transports as something that break remain stationary. It listed all the exceptions and it was not there. The old wording where it says you never count as remaining stationary is just clarifying that if you get out and don't move you don't get to count as remaining stationary, its not some universal law that over rules other faction rules.
@mohastgridlock
@mohastgridlock 3 жыл бұрын
Do you release these in an audio only format? Would love to be able to download on Google Podcasts or something
@CatroiOz
@CatroiOz 3 жыл бұрын
If you're on Android KZbin Vanced allows you to listen any KZbin video with the screen closed
@gmradio2436
@gmradio2436 3 жыл бұрын
How do "automatic hit" and "on 6+ to hit" work together?
@equos5060
@equos5060 3 жыл бұрын
They dont
@gmradio2436
@gmradio2436 3 жыл бұрын
@Equos could you please explain.
@SoSaltySalt
@SoSaltySalt 3 жыл бұрын
@@gmradio2436 If you autohit you don't have a hitroll, so nothing that triggers on specific hitrolls will trigger. Similarly, if you have exploding hits(like from the Sacred rite, on unmodified 6's to hit), those extra hits don't have any number associated with them. So if you have the 6's to hit autowound stratagem and the sacred rite, and you roll a 6, you'll get 1 autowound hit, and one hit you still need to roll the woundroll for.
@gmradio2436
@gmradio2436 3 жыл бұрын
@@SoSaltySalt Thank you.
@grafzahl3047
@grafzahl3047 3 жыл бұрын
Ebon Chalice! 'Cause heresy can only be cleansed in FIRE!
@Razyrazer
@Razyrazer 3 жыл бұрын
lol its like you read my mine i was thinking about this a couple days ago
@GaudiaCertaminisGaming
@GaudiaCertaminisGaming 2 жыл бұрын
You forgot the Order of the Machine Gun Brassiere.
@Bladecharge
@Bladecharge 3 жыл бұрын
I thought there was a order who used the color yellow
@kieranmelville5451
@kieranmelville5451 3 жыл бұрын
So what's the downside to just painting them custom?
@tobek284
@tobek284 3 жыл бұрын
None really. Unless there is a order you really like the look of. Personally I really love the way sacred rose looks and paint mine like them. Also nostalgia for the dawn of war game.
@samsneddon4203
@samsneddon4203 3 жыл бұрын
Order of the Bleeding Heart. The forgotten order.
@arnaldoenriquez6191
@arnaldoenriquez6191 Ай бұрын
is this still true in 10th edition ??
@shakyrob6512
@shakyrob6512 3 жыл бұрын
My custom Order is called The Order of the Emperor's Guidance. So I picked the Guided by the Emperor's Will & Slayers of Heretics as my two convictions. Though the two antipsyker ones sound fun to use against GK/1k Sons or similar every once in a while.
@colouredIncognito
@colouredIncognito 3 жыл бұрын
Your strength calculation of the orders seems to be off tbf
@edwardaugustus9680
@edwardaugustus9680 3 жыл бұрын
Wish the minor orders got more love crunch and fluff wise
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener 3 жыл бұрын
I would imagine the big problem with playing Sisters (as well as Ad Mech) is that your order seems to be a *really* big commitment. I can imagine it: you buy the book when you know almost nothing, pick an order, start painting it. Three months later, you realize you picked the wrong one and into the rubbing alcohol they go! I could see a lot of players making the safe bet and picking Bloody Rose or something.
@emilywerner6190
@emilywerner6190 3 жыл бұрын
I bet bloody rose (rules or colors) makes up a significant amount of sisters lists
@RSBurgener
@RSBurgener 3 жыл бұрын
@@emilywerner6190unless I got a brainstorm for some custom order, it's probably the one I would go for too. Melee is generally a good move in 40k and the paint scheme is straightforward. There's a way to personalize everything.
@doomkingraye7692
@doomkingraye7692 3 жыл бұрын
Argent shroud >>>> anything else
@Vvoltyy
@Vvoltyy 2 жыл бұрын
I say paint them however you like and state at the beginning of the game/while building your army list which Order you choose for the specific detachment. Unless you're playing for GW Tournaments, I would pray nobody at any LGS would shit on you for using different coloured minis that you spent plenty of money and time on...
@LordDeathNote
@LordDeathNote 3 жыл бұрын
Lol, this is so bad, Argent Shroud is much better than "Medium". The current question among actual sisters players is whether pure mono AS is the way to go or not. Meanwhile Ebon Chalice is quite bad, there's only really one really good sacred rite and two decent ones + one situationally good one. You'd be be better off just picking a shooting order or melee order (or having one detachment of each) and having much larger benefits for that playstyle.
@18120polls
@18120polls 3 жыл бұрын
What luck, i was just staring at my codex trying to figure out what order i wanted to play.
@dudemcfurgusson7179
@dudemcfurgusson7179 3 жыл бұрын
Even after reading and watching, I still don't know what to go with. My 50 point crusade force fires 101 bolt shots in the first round of combat, the 101 damnations as the joke goes, with a Canoness and a Palatine allowing rerolls of hits and wounds, but the boltgun minoris conviction isn't particularly inspiring and the reroll a single hit/wound per unit isn't so impressive when you're firing over 100 shots. (Also technically it's the first two rounds, as my Serephim don't drop until turn two, but it's the first time that unit gets to shoot so damnit I count it.)
@markfrancis8978
@markfrancis8978 3 жыл бұрын
I think many people are underestimating Sacred Rose
@skoffs
@skoffs 3 жыл бұрын
They might be good combo'd with other orders, but I don't see many people taking just SR by themselves
@Dementist
@Dementist 3 жыл бұрын
Overrated OOML and EC, hugely underrated AS. There's a very good reason most theorycrafting right now is happening with Argent Shroud.
@Nianfur
@Nianfur 3 жыл бұрын
Now that Games Workshop expect players to play the order their army is painted as. This information is even more important. Sadly.
@RogalDorn01
@RogalDorn01 3 жыл бұрын
You can paint however you want actually with this Army. "In the footsteps of Saints" allows you to make your minor chapter a repainted clone of one of the major orders
@skoffs
@skoffs 3 жыл бұрын
@@RogalDorn01 So long as you don't need to take any of the order locked relics, mind you
@icklemoo
@icklemoo 3 жыл бұрын
this is only ever going to be a thing at a Warhammer world event or an official GW store event, .. maybe a couple of tournements, seeing as GW arent allowing gaming back in store and its questionable if they will even bother from what i am told from some store employees .. if you are just playing games, paint them whatever and use what ever legion rules you like ...
@cythonnaiilo7956
@cythonnaiilo7956 3 жыл бұрын
wow. now my first born marines seem to be really out of place...
@redjacc7581
@redjacc7581 3 жыл бұрын
SoB rock!
@foxfox3004
@foxfox3004 3 жыл бұрын
Sacrifice themselves "for the greater good" heretic
@UhtredOfBamburgh
@UhtredOfBamburgh 2 жыл бұрын
"Brazier of Holy Fire" lol ...is this literally a relic of someone's bra?
@transvestosaurus878
@transvestosaurus878 2 жыл бұрын
The answer, of course, is nun.
@alexandrebelinge8996
@alexandrebelinge8996 3 жыл бұрын
I'm will play this video but not listen to it ... My wallet can't take another army hit ! ;-)
@grafzahl3047
@grafzahl3047 3 жыл бұрын
Ebon Chalice! 'Cause heresy can only be cleansed in FIRE!
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