Which Army Should I Choose to Play in 40K? A Comparison of the Best Factions to Pick First

[@auspextactics]

Made an updated version of this for 9th edition here if you're interested! kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaPNlX2dbt9rm5I

[@Autechltd]

>2020 rolls around >"what army should I pick this year? I wish someone would give me a sign!" >TV turns on with the news Death Guard it is!!

[@gj4312]

nurgle corona daemons

[@geordiegoalie4757]

Indeed.

[@Autechltd]

@@geordiegoalie4757 Good guy Mortarion always wearing a mask outside. How responsible!

[@geordiegoalie4757]

Heinrich Dethahal Indeed. Safety first.

[@bolikde9389]

Why not Daemons of Nurgle ?

[@oliver4936]

Here some time stamps for everyone that wants to compare two armies 1:46 Space Marines 4:20 Dark Angels 5:23 Blood Angels 6:07 Space Wolves 7:05 Deathwatch 8:22 Grey Knights 9:53 Adeptus Custodes 11:15 Astra Militarum 13:18 Adepta Sororitas 14:33 Adeptus Mechanicus 15:55 Imperial Knights 17:13 Imperial Agents 18:41 Chaos Space Marines 20:20 Deathguard 21:35 Thousand Sons 23:17 Chaos Demons 24:36 Chaos Knights 25:26 Craftworld Eldar 26:52 Dark Eldar/Drukhari 28:13 Harlequins 29:26 Ynnari 30:33 Tau 32:16 Tyranids 33:26 Genestealer Cults 35:19 Orks 36:52 Necrons

[@auspextactics]

Cheers man, pinned :)

[@tigersympathiser2265]

You missed Zoats and Squats, the most important factions man!

[@nosn1bor963]

You are doing God's work 🙏

[@wildtony79]

Ahh over half the list before we get to non imperium armies, never change GW.

[@Cerberus571]

Olive R some of them are messed up when I press neurons it not necrons

[@Jay_76]

Do you want to have a lot of fun both winning and losing in spectacularly hilarious ways? Then the Orks are for you. Do you want to kill your opponent's entire arm from across the map and be hated by everyone? Then play as the Tau. Do you enjoy using an unending horde out units to swarm over your opponent's forces and rip them to shreds? Try the Tyranids. Do you like using lots and lots of tanks and vehicles while sacrificing loads of infantry? Take a look at the Imperial Guard. Do you like heavily armoured units that can kill enemies from a distance or in melee? Perhaps the Space Marines are for you. Do you like the Space Marines but also like lots of spikes and deamons? Welcome to Chaos. Do you like slow moving troops that can destroy enemy tanks and infantry all while being practically unkillable? You'll probably enjoy the Necron. Do you like being a pompous pointy-headed toss-pot that blames everyone else for problems you created? The Eldar are looking for players like you.

[@michaelsternald]

Where does AdMech fit in here? 😄

[@Grom8P]

AH yes, the pointy eared gits. AKA; the ones who try to bend the rules.

[@boyanpenev9822]

@@Grom8P Yes, "What do we play instead of rangers because in 2020, GW still hast them in Failcast?"

[@catavar9921]

Thanks for the list. I've always wanted to be a pompous pointy-headed toss-pot that blames everyone else for problems I created.

[@danielavalsangiacomo6691]

Do you romance your phone and plug in your earphone jack into your ears directly? Add mech is your army.

[@TheF0xskibidbopmmdada]

Pro Strat: Pick whoever looks coolest

[@bramble6367]

This guy gets it just choose which faction you like

[@mtuktuk9627]

Its like the first thing he said

[@encinoman903]

I did this and picked the Black Templars. Suffice it to say, I never won a match. Stopped gaming tabletop for good.

[@Crause88fin]

@@encinoman903 Check out Kings of War. Just had 3rd ed released before Christmas, and it's the most balanced piece of tabletop miniature games I have ever played. Fantasy, sure, but if you want to have a new take on miniatures as a whole, I can't give it enough praise. A bit vanilla, but plays fantastic. All armies balanced as a bulk, no codex power creep.

[@TheF0xskibidbopmmdada]

Mettle Grinder thanks for letting me know that I shouldn't pick Black Templars

[@dustinasche]

#1 thing to know when you're starting out? Start slow. Don't buy a whole army at once. Instead, build one unit at a time, and finish it before buying anything else. A Start Collecting box should be about the biggest kit you buy in one go.

[@auspextactics]

That's good advice, I've had quite a few times when I've just held off buying a certain unit and realised it would have been a bad decision a month or so down the line

[@kingjonstarkgeryan8573]

I would say the Apocalypse box sets are also generally pretty good deals if you can find them.

[@dustinasche]

@@kingjonstarkgeryan8573 true, but I wouldn't suggest them to somebody starting out.

[@sergiobarrachina3330]

Why we all veteran players advise the same and most of us (not to say none) did that? :-D I mean, seriously, that's the best advice you can get. START SLOWLY. Assume rules will probably change just enough so you have to adjust your army list while you build it and paint it. If you buy all at once (like I did) you will end up spending close to 3000$ for using an army list that could have been purchased by 1000$.

[@Julian-cn1ey]

Big true. I'm a noob, picked up the game half way through last month. Picked up the SC:CSM (reboxed CSM half of Shadowspear). Each model is taking like 10-15 hours to make for me right now if I want them to look the way I want them to (painting each part separately before gluing them together, primed, between 3 and 5 coats on any given spot on the model). The models are turning out really good, but it's taking me a while. It'll be a hot minute before I pick up a box of Apostles, Abbadon, and maybe heavy armor support. The SC box will hold me over for another couple months of painting based on how much free time I can put into the hobby.

[@erutherford]

IMHO one of the most "newb friendly" armies are actually Necrons. Easy to paint, easy to run, and not hugely expensive. If you buy used you can also save a pretty penny.

[@robertwilson5475]

Ed Rutherford Unfortunately destroyers are the only thing worth fielding for Necrons, which can be prohibitively expensive to get.

[@auspextactics]

I can see that being a good shout actually. Their standard paint scheme being pretty monotone certainly makes starting out easier

[@konigstiger3252]

But they look like a blob of green shit -.-

[@prestonc8196]

@@konigstiger3252 that's just your opinion

[@PhantomJavelin]

@@konigstiger3252 Sure, if you suck at painting lol

[@T-74]

I like how the death guard, worshippers of NURGLE, god of DISEASE appears at 20:20

[@Kishi_Dez]

o,o

[@geordiegoalie4757]

Just as planned..

[@T-74]

Lord Mortarion wrong chaos god

[@geordiegoalie4757]

COD squad Incorrect.

[@geordiegoalie4757]

Tzeentch doesn’t even know his own plans. Nurgle’s plan is always the same. It never changes. Like entropy. It is inevitable.

[@Duckman1616]

From a painting perspective, orks. It doesn't matter if they're painted poorly, it goes with their design.

[@EloquentTroll]

I started with orks partly for that reason. I later switched to Sisters of Battle which is the polar opposite in that regard.

[@thechosenfundead6626]

Or necrons, the colors are easy

[@wiictvchannel1112]

Just restarted after a 5 year hiatus and selling my armies and I choose Orks to get back into it and mainly for painting because they are my favorite army. And it's true, I'm doing a very basic paint scheme and it still looks nice and is easy to do.

[@petroandras]

Orks for life, for me, BUT don't start with them, or any horde army for that matter. Painting 90 boys/gaunts/whatnot is a frightening task.

[@chibizion]

Plus getting used to losing shovel loads of models at a time builds good sportsmanship since you'll take losses in other armies with good humor.

[@ottovonbismarck7646]

Simple: the Imperial Guard. Holding the line since the 31st millennium!

[@prestonc8196]

What is the Iron Chancellor doing here

[@ottovonbismarck7646]

@@prestonc8196 advertising for the Imperial Guard, that's what!

[@vanxthenecron3059]

More like buying 100 boxes of soldiers

[@ConcealedCourier]

Because there's little sweeter than putting a baneblade, a commissar, a psyker broad and a commander on the table and saying "500 points"

[@ottovonbismarck7646]

@@ConcealedCourier tis the same with putting hundreds of models worth of infantry down, and saying, "hold on, that's 1/3 of my army. The rest is in the car!"

[@Manglet762]

Table of contents for the video: IMPERIUM FACTIONS -Space Marines (Ultramarines 1:47) -Dark Angels (4:21) -Wolves of Fenris (aka {ughhh}Space Wolves, 6:07) -Deathwatch (7:06) -Grey Knights (8:21) -Adeptus Custodes (9:54) -Imperial Guard/Astra Militarum (11:16) -Adepta Sororitas(13:15) -Adeptus Mechanicus{14:33} -Imperial Knights{15:55} -Imperial Agents{17:13} CHAOS -Chaos Space Marines {18:42} -Death Guard{20:25} -Thousand Sons {21:36} -Chaos Demons{23:11} -Chaos Knights{24:33} ELDAR -Craftworld Eldar{25:28} -Druhkari{AKA Dark Eldar}{26:53} -Harlequinns {28:09} -Ynnari {29:22 OTHER XENOS -Tau Empire{30:32} -Tyrannids{32:16 - Genestealer Cults{33:31} -Orkz{35:19} -Necrons{36:53} Also, IMPORTANT THING TO NOTE IF YOU'RE A NEWCOMER WHO WANTS TO TRY OUT THE GAME: You don't need to spend that much money to see if you like it. You can spend 20$ on TableTop Simulator {TTS} on Steam, and use the Workshop to install community-made mods for everything you'd need to play a game. Armies, Rules for said Armies, Maps to play on, rules for the game, it's all there, and it's all free once you spend the 20$ {or less if you get it on sale}. Use this before shelling out lots of money for an army you may end up not liking. Also, TTS has its own Discord group for everything Warhammer related, TTS Warhammer 40k, which has a chanel to ask people questions if you're a new players, Lore Discussions, channels for other Warhammer related games like Age of Sigmar, and more. Link here: discordapp.com/invite/XkBbs5M

[@81Earthangel]

Anthony Smith I really hate that most armies by now are Space Marines and/or other Empire of Man armies.

[@auspextactics]

Cheers man, should probably have done this myself but I was out of energy after 4 hours of recording this :D I just pinned it to the top :)

[@Manglet762]

@@81Earthangel Yeah i was thinking of complaining about that but decided to keep this as just a Table of Contents. It also probably has to do with the fact that my brother who is a...."passionate" follower of the Imperium, is on my bed and could see my comment at any time, so i gotta be hush-hush about this lest he call an Inquisitor to "question" me 0.0 . Really though it's ridiculous that the Imperium armies are bigger in number than almost the entire list of other armies. Space Marines have more Playable models than fucking Orkz as well, which would be hilarious if it weren't sad.

[@Manglet762]

@@auspextactics I don't blame you, i was sure that putting together a script detailing the reasons to use each army already took a long time, so time-stamping the exact points of each would result in a "fuck that" from many content creators. Might also want to add, if you're up for it i'd like for you to pin my other comment that shows the alternative for if people are looking for a more safe option if they're trying to get into WH40K. I don't want new players coming onto this video, or any other Introduction video to WH for that matter, and thinking they HAVE to spend dozens of hours picking out an army, assembling said army after paying for it, spending money for a codex for said army, as well as Painting said models which is its own video, all just to TRY OUT the game to see if they even like it. Or they could just shell out 20$ MAX and see from there if they like it.

[@Saint_Sigismund]

Orkz. It's just Orkz

[@rejectx7798]

For Squats, there’s some AoS Dwarves with guns. Take those and use Astra Militarum Rules and you got yourself some Squats. :3

[@CarburetorThompson]

Reject X7 yeah either the Kharadron overlords or the iron drakes would work pretty well for conversions.

[@richmcgee434]

Sample in Mantic's Forgefathers and the many third party casters as well.

[@LilacMage]

Sigmar dwarfs + Skitarii = Squatarii. ;)

[@longle88]

M Edvinsonn that’ll be pricey

[@PandorasFolly]

@@LilacMage fucking yeeeeeeeeeeesssss. robot beards!

[@ThePessimisticTech-Priest]

So little love in the chat for my mechanized brethren. *Hugs my comfort toaster tightly, cries in binary.* 01000011 01110010 01101001 01100101 01110011

[@nickdance965]

01000011 01101111 01101101 01100110 01101111 01110010 01110100 01110011

[@Aconspiracyofravens1]

At least you got a game, only the speesh mawhines got one aside from you

[@renderscott]

I feel you toaster-homie

[@elliottreadings8029]

The meaties don't deserve us.

[@razerfree4359]

My advice for new players: don't buy armies you wouldn't like to build and paint or you don't like the lore/style of. Unless you're ultra-competitive and don't care about the hobby part of the game and get your models commissioned. But if you're in it for the hobby, buy what suits you even if it's weak game-wise. You'll have more fun playing than the guy who's building the ultimate Astartes list and selling it out of boredom or due to nerfs 1 year later.

[@fernandotrevinocastro1018]

You just save my tyranid starting army

[@AsheramK]

@@fernandotrevinocastro1018 Playing 'nids myself and I personally love them. Not so much playing, but the painting is quite straightforward and definitely something easy to learn on. Purchase a box of Termagent or Hormagaunt and you've got plenty to practice on, or get a box of Genestealers and you've got a basic Kill Team right there.

[@nataliealphonse4634]

In eight edition this is a terrible idea imo, as someone who picked eldar cause they looked cool and isnt willing to do a pure flyers list i basically lose 70% of my games against imperium players that just have better rules than me and its genuinely ruining the game for me rn

[@razerfree4359]

@@nataliealphonse4634 To be perfectly honest, in 40K there have always been some armies that get more love than others. This is the case with Imperium.

[@OmegaDez]

I feel you. I'm zero competitive. I'm here strictly for the hobby, been sticking to my Nids since 1995. I've seen them go for god tier to bottom of the barrel, becoming good again and being nerfed to oblivion just as fast. I really don't care. They're my guys and I love them.

[@barkspawn]

"no they're not a faction anymore" poor squats

[@jexx2974]

and corsairs

[@ryanphgaara]

Salamanders, imperial fists, white scars ect

[@81Earthangel]

Simple Geometry Miss the squats. How can a fantasy game not have dwarves? :(

[@manveruppd]

*cries into my beer*

[@0wolfmoon]

They've been making models for them. I'm sure you could houserule them in if you really wanted to

[@nomisekul4969]

I love tanks, so the guard was the greatest choice for me when i switched from space marines back 2 years ago.

[@auspextactics]

No one quite does armour like the guard :D

[@Ottakazi]

Still waiting for the competitive scene to get on board with ork looted wagons so I can roll in with an ork lemus russ detachment 😭

[@nomisekul4969]

@@Ottakazi I'm sure the orks will be back to looting Russes at some point, pesky greenskins!

[@lkvideos7181]

For relatability: Imperial Guard or Space Marines. For easy paint job: Necrons. For crazyness: orks. For fantasy preference: Eldar. For sci fi preference: Tau or Tyranids.

[@Talyrion]

You know, I never really managed to find the Imperium relatable. All in all, I feel 0 empathy for 40k's humanity - or at least its governing body.

[@lkvideos7181]

​@@Talyrion Maybe I should have worded it better. I was refering to faction / unit design, less the lore. Some ppl prefer exotic faction designs like Xenos, others are fans of Earth / historical militaries and they see resemblences or familiarity in IG / SM designs.

[@corkstylin]

Disasporex, Interex, and indeed what we know of DAoT-era human civilisations all put paid to the argument that the Imperium is a "necessary evil". But talking about "evil" kinda misses the point I think. It's GrimDark. Everything is fucked.

[@Talyrion]

@@Commodore22345 The Imperium is absolutely evil. It was MADE to be evil, taking from the worst aspects of nazism, communism and religious fundamentalism in one neat package. It was made to be the dystopia to end all dystopia, while we laugh at how absurdly over-the-top evil the whole thing is. And then some began to take it seriously, and now you have people trying to sell this "but it's not THAT bad / we don't have a choice, really!" bullshit. And no, it absolutely ISN'T a "necessary evil" to protect humanity from Chaos. Despite the Emperor protests of "I didn't want things to turn that way", his actions fucked things up from the very start, and now humanity is reaping what he sow, while those leading them are too unimaginative to try something different and justify their atrocities by "this is the only way". Doesn't mean that every inhabitant in the Imperium is evil. But as a whole, it's probably the most evil regime governing humanity in sci-fi.

[@corkstylin]

@@Talyrion bloomin well put!

[@PaintsAreOp]

Daemons of Chaos: "Lot of the sculpts are quite old plastic models, particularly some core troops" 2008 Drukhari: "Relatively recent army refresh" 2010 So 12 years is quite old, but 10 years is relatively recent. Ok.

[@finalshade14]

He's referring to what the model material is made out of

[@MotiviqueStudio]

Pretty sure I would only ever play Tau, because at least if I can't beat my opponent, I can infuriate them.

[@Thomas-cs8uj]

Thought you were about to say that the tau were good, but absolutely are they infuriating. No matter what army I (or anyone I see field) they always same to be the most annoying shits on the board But as they say, fight tau with tau

[@-jtd-5576]

Motivique Studio I hate you lol

[@IrishCarney]

Tyranids aren't supposed to have feelings but a melee focused nid army being mowed down before getting to shiv a single stabby bit in can be a bit perturbed... so, um, I'm told.

[@napdragon7324]

IrishCarney there have been several occasions where my ‘nids have had to footslog it across 5’ of table, with 0 cover, against a gun line of stationary primaris and necrons. Never even got to shoot with anything short of my biggest units.

[@flipkiller8521]

@@Thomas-cs8uj Then get Necron Flayed Ones and enjoy seeing that pesky Firewarrior squad get torn to shreds in melee.

[@mugger1]

Tyranids, because everyone loves playing against you. Theirs just something about fighting off aliens like that.

[@willbournerv2259]

Tyranids are sexy. Seeing all those hungry alien xenos moving all streamlined with their talons and teeth just gets my dick hard.

[@sovietsheep5051]

Will Bourner V. No Xenophilia here sir, this is the Imperium Of Man!

[@dumkneegrow465]

@@willbournerv2259 HERESY

[@BullocK1495]

@@willbournerv2259 "Yes, Inquisitor. This man right here."

[@OniGanon]

Come on, you apes! You wanna live forever?!

[@Waagghhboy]

Ill save yuh some tume lads, go orks. Orks have the most fun in 40k and so will you as you play with ork! Plus pretty easy to paint

[@mqw.4377]

WAAAAAAAAAH

[@HeleentheArcane]

Alright boyz, let's chomp some humies!

[@Owen-mt3ce]

Orks and necrons are my favorites

[@Siathuan]

Days after this was posted, Space Marines were indeed nerfed, though not cripplingly so. Speifically, their Combat Doctrines rules were locked down somewhat to reduce cheese.

[@gratuitouslurking8610]

In addition, specific things regarding Iron Warriors and character dreads/Leviathans were touched on as well. I do fear that Raven Guard may swoop that in (because Sternguard jumping down is even better than Centurians honestly) but otherwise it did lower some of the insanity.

[@tabletoppainter7390]

Hahahaha crying u mad bro?

[@Siathuan]

@@tabletoppainter7390 As a 'Nid player? Not hardly. In fact, one or two nerds more wouldn't go amiss IMO.

[@brokenrooster4338]

First, also I know we paint what we like but figuring out playstyle is important too cause I fell in love with Tau. I love painting the whole line. It's a cool aesthetic to me. The issue was in game style and even though it's just imagination and rolling dice. Shooting markerlights and erasing units from the table is nice but theres something funner about maneuvering around and doing chargers so I like my blood Angel's better.

[@brokenrooster4338]

@standardleft I almost did until I realized how much I'd have to paint lol

[@knoxminis1211]

At least things are more dynamic with the update to the Farsight Enclaves.

[@romulusnuma116]

My first Mary was Tau and I was very disheartened because it felt like I was only playing half the game kinda ruined my want to play the game I'm mostly past that now but it really killed my motivated when I started

[@brokenrooster4338]

@@romulusnuma116 yes exactly. I love the look of Tau but not the gameplay. I personally enjoy trying to support and set up successful charges. Some people may like castles and screens but Ive noticed I have more fun with Blood Angels even when I lose.

[@brokenrooster4338]

@Jacob Moffatt lol that sounds freaking awesome! That would be so many models lol

[@NOOBATRON-bs4jo]

For new people (which I'm still pretty new october 2019) find out what kind of reason your doing the wargaming hobby for, be it painting and building, collecting, and or playing. The other thing, is dont care about one army being more or less expensive then the others, buy the thing you love (even if you cant afford a 2000 point army with what you love cause it's so expensive you can always slowly build it up over the course of a few months or a year and still play 40k with what you have, and have a ton of fun while doing it. 1000 point army matches are still super fun. Long story short I wound up getting a bunch of chaos stuff and not orks , but when I actuly did the math, because of the cool big daemon bros and tons of cultists I wanted it was within 100 dollar diffrence (was actually like 15 or 30 dollars for orks) and with orks I would've had waaaaay more models to paint and customize which is something I like to do, and my main reason for getting into the hobby; so make sure to find out your main reason and DONT RUSH, or DO RUSH. do what's gonna make you happy in the long run when you can play with all your sick ass cool painted bad mamajammas on the field. I also wanna point out that as well, the exact example of why Orks are expensive. if you wanna play at 2000 points (which is the standard at my local store) you need to buy multiple of the kits, but the [troop unit] 10 ork boys are 35 bucks and 10 CSM [troop unit] are 60 or 20 for ten cultists [troop unit] that you also need a ton of kits of for a whole army. So its 10 to 30 guys to make a troop unit but orks rules and cultist rules pretty much make them need 20 to 30. So 75 bucks or 60 not that big of a diffrence and when you consider the discount a local game store should give you when you buy bulk (usually 15%) it gets even smaller. Another thing to realize before you pick an army, is you can always eventually get another, and haveing 2 smaller armies is actually alot of fun, because then you can paint what you want and play at your house with family friends, or even... by yourself to practice and learn the game. Yes loner I know lol.

[@thenintendobros9918]

So what would you recommend for very casual play between my wife and I, and probably some of our friends? We'll probably do occasional tournaments/local gamestore playing, but nothing too serious. Our main concern is price, cuz holy crap Warhammer is expensive

[@facepalmjesus1608]

i am really triggered that we have 9th edition...that the logo changed... but we still have no Emperor's Children and no World Eaters factions! ppppfff

[@AristeidisKypriotis]

It is nigh impossible to overemphasize the importance of choosing based on what looks the coolest to you. Rules change, and since 8th edition quite regularly. The models though, you will have to live with ...at least for a much longer time

[@JohnDoe-vv5bz]

This video sounds like your pilot telling you about local weather after you've landed, I mean that in a good way! Loving all the information.

[@nofuxgivens2797]

Things I wish I knew when I started.... 1) Airbrush....it is hands down the best thing to learn and own on the modeling side. You can paint 80% of your armies potential details with it...they can use cheap paints to similar effect as more expensive...where brush painting definitely requires high end paint. 2) most the items and techniques your grandfather and dad used for military modeling are far superior to stuff at a gaming store and painting classes taught there . 3)invest a good portion of your hobby time in terrain. Especially as a kid or adult with kids...it takes a lot less time to game at home vs setting up a game at a local store. 4)when building an army of a faction that has distinct sub factions with unique rules/models.....Make your own Sub Faction IE Space Marine Chapter, Hive Fleet, Ork Klan, Craftworld...etc...most sub factions still use a lot of the same models. You can buy or kitbash stuff to represent the unique faction units. Side note...as a kid growing up with 1st and 2nd edition...my space marine army had blood claws, 5 wolfguard terminators, 10 DeathCo and chaplain, 2 ultramarines tactical squads, blood Angel's devastator squad(I wanted that new plasma cannon so bad) and some crimson fist beaky marines. Also had the old school land raider, rhino, Land speeder and the big brick shithouse Furioso dread....I wish I had painted them all my own custom chapter. My point is that you can still indulge into some of the new spice and play with it using your custom army

[@ausaskar]

Yeah, definitely don't turn your nose up at the ancient wisdom of scale model/model train techniques. These guys have been hobbying for decades long before all the fancy products and tools we have today.

[@joshuaclark3406]

@@ausaskar Could you point us in the direction of said resources / techniques?

[@laviljoski6952]

Can you do more videos where you talk about one faction and how to play it and some tips to play against it

[@dddmemaybe]

Unit-specific tactics, placement in army, strength and weaknesses would be a good entertainment imo.

[@DudeWatIsThis]

"Choosing your squad of murderous heretics and xenos ASMR"

[@silviachristandl5874]

Got into miniatures a few weeks ago, went with Tau. Have not regreted it yet

[@sekalf2]

Silvia Christandl Same here! Love the look and lore of the Tau

[@emersonmorgan3215]

@lil crispy hurts even more with the viorla Sept bonus, all rapid fire weapons are classed as assault, now you can advance a bit and have no penalty to firing, hurts a lot on deepstriking crisis suits

[@gmiller4165]

Damn space commie

[@HeleentheArcane]

I feel like the T'au don't really fit in with the 40k universe. They look a bit to sci fi for the gothic and ww1/ww2 style of 40k.

[@valaquenta220]

And as soon as you talk about space marines needing a nerf, they get one :D

[@TF-yk8bn]

Started with Admech, then bought Imperial Knights and now Space Marines with a focus on Salamanders but haven't painted anything yet so not nailed down.

[@dominusbalial835]

I love admech personally, Iron Hands are fun to play but they are super strong. I play gunline admech but i'm starting to move into the smashy side a bit more, electropriests and dragoons are really good. i'd say electropriests are more effective though. Although with stygies the dragoons are -2 to hit

[@TF-yk8bn]

@@dominusbalial835 I add a knight errant to the Admech list for smashy and distraction. I also deep strike infiltrators with Mars stratagem for mortal wounds. I just wish I had more infiltrators

[@Waagghhboy]

You suck bruh paint some shit lol You got 3 armies not 1 painted smh

[@AnthanKrufix]

When I first wandered into Games Workshop store I immediately homed in on Harlequins just purely for how awesome they looked... They were super easy and inspirational to alter and sculpt too, so much action in their movements and figures... a far cry from basically everything else on the shelves where you could pick from... dude standing there... dude standing there with his arms slightly higher... dude standing there with his arms slightly lower.... Harlequins made doing things like fixing them upside down doing backflips so easy to visualize and put together, and literally after my first model was glued together I was experimenting with using the ribbons on their clothing as the anchors to the base so that I didn't have to have their feet barely touching the ground. I was actually sorta miffed when I actually had to admit that having a whole army of ONLY Harlequins would be more trouble than it was worth and stuck to KillTeam games for like a whole year until I added Drukhari to the list too, they sorta work with similar sort of modeling potential and flexibility too.

[@charliesmith1960]

AP I really appreciate your concise no frills informative style videos, so refreshing and helpful! Keep up the good work and I'm sure this channel will grow :)

[@3Kings_Industries]

Thanks for the overview. I was an Adeptus Sororitas fan for the models, but never really played since high school. The rules have changed drastically since the last time I played.

[@0griggs]

Literally been thinking about getting into this... thanks for enabling.

[@MathasiaJ]

One of us, one of us, one of us!!!!

[@Scott90314]

Same bro heard of it and the lore has me enthralled, and the game seems kinda interesting as well.

[@Scott90314]

@@rf-cattleprod6207 Idk about that, but fuck it I like your enthusiasm thinking dark Angel's with a primaris "not alpha" successor chapter splashed in what do you think?

[@a.wyattmann4370]

@@rf-cattleprod6207 I am so close to making the plunge, but I have no painting experience, I've always been a "poor" artist. The painting aspect is the one thing holding me back because I won't allow myself to play with grossly painted minis.

[@Caladors]

The most important thing to know as a new 40k hobbyist is it's okay to do your own thing, AND eBay is a thing, check it out (or gumtree or whatever your local equivelant is)

[@batman9592]

Best advice! Only buy what you love, and buy it 2nd hand for cheap. Then Battlescribe and 1d4chan.

[@RedCrowJXU]

I started playing 40k 9th edition this year. I chose Imperial Knights as my first army. Some of my friends do not want to play with me anymore. I have no regrets.

[@synergy8879]

imagine being a cultist or genestealer player and your enemy drops a fucking mini titan on the table and expects you to fight

[@RedCrowJXU]

@@synergy8879 Good luck boy!

[@Crocuta6]

Low-key mentions every God but Slaanesh for Daemons

[@OniGanon]

Slaanesh, God of Daemonettisation.

[@greggillespie8259]

First and only army I’ve got is deathwatch, only reasons I initially got them was via playing kill team and thinking that they looked pretty interesting/ easy to build then I was told that they were pretty good to run due to the variety of special ammo and heavy weapons that they bring to the table. But holy mother of god the learning curve when I took them to my first game of 500 points was interesting. 10/10 would purge the alien again

[@QenaitheCustodianGuard]

I have a suggestion: Custodes, for the honor of basking in the golden glory of our emperors, beloved by all all, finest creations. It is as close to our Emperor one can get, and if you don't want that you are a heretic. Augustus imperator, our Emperor, beloved by all.

[@IrishCarney]

Pep talks like that have a low probability of success with Tyranids...

[@QenaitheCustodianGuard]

@@IrishCarney of course, they are xeno scum.

[@MrMViceroy]

The widest range of playstyles would be Eldar, I'd say, not space marines. Especially if you're combining the different factions. They can do everything the marines can do, and more besides.

[@Bobmrob]

Great idea for a video! Not easy to decide

[@greenjoseph4]

I’d say the best army to get into (if you’re brand new to the hobby) is the army who’s fluff you’re in love with. I’d check out your local meta and see what’s popular.

[@fernandotrevinocastro1018]

Just started and find out im the local tyranid boi, lots of marines, some deathguard, Tau and orks. I actually feel kind of cool being the only one with this in the area

[@stephangreen5317]

Nice video, heart warming to see folks still playing, for anyone getting into tabletop, do look into 30K before you drop your schillings.

[@MoadikumMoodocks]

It might help to think about how hard the models are to paint, and how much you will spend on paints. I was going to collect T'au first because their troops seemed relatively simple in style and would only need a few colours to look good. But there was a sale on AdMech. Admech are fairly intricate and there is potential for a lot of different colours when you start thinking about optical lenses, purity seals and the various bits of leather. Coming into 40K I'm glad I wasn't completely new to painting miniatures (use to play Dark Elves), but I am finding them quite a challenge to paint.

[@RicardoGarcia-zy1ux]

This Video was great and helpful I’ll be sure to send it to other beginners!

[@sentrysapper45]

I'm just getting started and I decided to go with Orks for my first 40k army. Not only are they one of my favorite factions, but there's lots of awesome custom models and kitbashes people have made that you can buy secondhand at cheap prices. For example, I just ordered two custom looted Ork vehicles (a Rhino and Sentinel), two Mek gunz (one scratch built from different vehicle parts) and a squad of Stormboyz, all of it fully assembled and decently painted, for a grand total of about $100 when you factor in shipping costs. As an added bonus, it doesn't really matter if the secondhand minis clash visually due to differences in assembly and paint jobs because, well, they're Orks! Unique, ramshackle creations are the name of the game when it comes to Ork hardware.

[@zacharynewman897]

"Space Marines are a relatively cheap army to get into". The key words there are 'to get into'. They're a very expensive army to COLLECT because of that extensive range and good ongoing support. They've got the biggest gap between having enough to put an army on the table and having the full range, and frequent model releases is a double-edged sword. Buy the full Dark Eldar range today and it might be five years before GW releases a kit that's adding something instead of just being a refresh of an existing kit. Do the same thing with Marines and you'll be out of date again inside a year.

[@ArawnNox]

I recently got in to the hobby and I got pulled in to playing Drukhari because I loved the look of the Mandrakes. Sadly I don't really have any in my army, but I've really come to enjoy the fast, glass-cannon playstyle of them faction as a whole. Experimenting using proxies has also allowed me to learn new things about the units in practical terms over just reading the stat line. It's how I learned just how good and fun Incubi are and they're going to be a major component of my army moving forward. So, on topic, yeah I agree with what a lot of people say, pick what you're going to enjoy owning and painting for whatever motivates you (look, lore, general playstyle, etc) as the rules can and will change.

[@bryanbarcelo5440]

where's the Chaos gang at? ya boy is a World Eaters player, it's actually my first army but i'm also starting some space marines

[@dailykill2471]

i also have world eaters. i started making them a few months ago and they are great with the new pychic awakening book. but my first army i have is deathgaurd

[@NOOBATRON-bs4jo]

Word bears and sexy badass daemons

[@maxsherry8123]

I run deathguard and chaos space marines. They’re fun to play especially when my deathguard units have multiple chances to just not die

[@ethanblevins1116]

Yes, inquisitor, these guys here

[@Kay_Drechsler]

What a nice overview for somebody like me who hasn't plaid in a very long time. Thanks for that!

[@ConcealedCourier]

While they don't have a distinct codex this edition, I'd give scions their own slate on this list.

[@MayonnaiseVenusaur]

10 years after I started playing I still have not questioned picking Blood Angels. There are things about other armies that I like. But, when I learned what the Blood Angels were all about I immediately knew it was for me, and although I'm a completely different person in most respects now, I am still super jazzed about my Blood Angels. One thing I will recommend to new players is to assemble your models and play a few games before you commit to a paint job. There are a lot of canon chapters with described play styles that might suit you, and you might like to paint your models in those chapters or design your own.

[@Ultrox007]

Going off my dawn of war gameplay I'm expecting Tau or Eldar for myself.

[@jackwilliams4087]

For new players the paint sets with a few minis are a good way to try new sculpts and you get a good boost to your paints. Using the step by step will get you some good results. Keep painting.

[@Cipher655]

Always pick tau. And if you need another army: more tau

[@GamingMagicMark]

This is HUGE value, thank you! Lots of subtle things I missed in faction choice

[@initman01]

I've watched this twice and read all the comments, i still have know idea what army i want to start with. i'm literally very very new and know nothing about anything of the hobby.

[@jarekscat3887]

warhammer games are poorly balanced money sinks for rich kids. if you are looking for a really good and challenging miniature game, try Malifaux or Infinity.

[@karlbastos2800]

@@jarekscat3887 except that Infinity models are pretty eh, and Malifaux is ... pretty awesome too bad nobody plays it in my area

[@TheWiggleTuff]

Death Guard is honestly a good starter army. It's very "cheap" on eBay because of all the starters and stuff

[@ransom1004]

I highly recommend Battle Scribe to determine what units your armies will use. Get a Codex first to learn about your units and Detachments. Once you have an idea of your strategy, units, and detachments, use battle scribe to find out your actual build and points. This will hugely impact what units you will be using/buying/painting. Your points make up will also impact your weapon load outs, in case you don't want to magnetize the models. If you are more casual and don't want focus on playing all that much, then don't worry about it!

[@Renekin93]

@16:02 My boy looks like he has the googliest of eyes.

[@CBRN-115]

⊙ ⊙

[@johnfarscape]

Painting was the most important thing for me. My first 40k army was Slann and I liked the look of loads of frogs with stubbers but after painting dozens of the same infantry I realised I didn't enjoy batch painting infantry. My 2nd army was a Squatt trike and biker army as I preferred painting the larger vehicles and didn't need as many models. Then went with Dreadnought, Predator space marine army with minimal infantry. Now I play Imperial Knights as they are my favourites models to build and paint.

[@angryheathen3463]

Salamanders and Scars get no love? They have their own codex

[@alexrankin3019]

I think he was only bringing up full codex armies.

[@johntucker23]

I've played Space Wolves from 2nd Ed and i can say, space wolf characters do make the army, I have a Rune Priest who got his own little case and plaque due to his heroics, a flying Hive Tyrant charged the unit of Long Fangs that he was leading, it killed all the long fangs and wounded the Rune Priest in the first round, 3 rounds later the Rune Priest stood triumphant over the smashed corpse of the Hive Tyrant. I've never used him since he just stays in his case, that was 7 years ago. ( And if you wanna know how much of a feat this was, try rolling a cc with a Rune priest vs a hive tyrant and see how often the priest wins... )

[@yipp_yippee]

Thanks for this.... New Player... still debating which army to start so this was very useful! Leaning Necron, still toying with the idea of Imperial Knights or a Vehicle Heavy + Bulgryn IG army or adeptus custodes. One question, on Warhammer Discord was told Imperial Knights are considered a "cheese" army & most players don't want to play against them (outside of Tournaments), is this true? If True... what other armies are frowned upon so I steer clear of them. Thanks

[@alexandralyon3579]

As a chaos knight player who knows a few imperial knight players. Knights aren't really frowned on the only frowned on thing I can think of is triple riptide tau armies.

[@charliesmith1960]

As another new player I'd definitely appreciate some kind of video(s) talking about the general community opinions on things like unsporting army lists etc.

[@hinti24]

a knight is Not an issue usually, of your lokal player base is aware of you running them. 3 Big ones and supporting elements are not too much fun as it ... A stomps unaware players B is boring to just play for objetives every match and watch you army melt away C is onedimensional. one day you will face 25 lascannon Iron hands, 3 blood angles smash captain and a million guardsem or other full-tilt lists that just tare you appart. i would stick to 1, but make your opponents aware of it in advance

[@hinti24]

@@alexandralyon3579 i dont mind triptide if there is terrain to play arround.

[@TTCnoobyProductions]

Try getting the opinions of the local meta, like the guys you´ll play against mostly, if you wanna know what´s frowned upon :o

[@TheLyraConstellation]

Thank having a sense of price and longevity really helps.

[@Sgdyr]

To keep in line with what he says in the end of his review, if you want to win, even in casual games, dont pick up nids lol

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

You are one of the greatest Warhammer 40K channels on KZbin!

[@harrisonsaynor8568]

If you want to win pick space marines because there op at the moment If you want to collect a model line that gw gives a crap about pick space marines If you wish to get shat on by gw and have to wait years between releases pick xenos or chaos/chaos marines

[@tanksniper380]

imperial guard a good as no matter what you pick you can generally make it viable and work as an army, though tonnes of minis to paint. secondly, necrons are great as they are easier to paint and easy to use

[@Donmegamuffin]

What about Legio Titanicus armies? :^) Quick bulletpoint overview? tl;dr: Price: Sculpts: Rules: ?

[@MisterFeanor]

1: You probably won't find anyone to play against more than once, once you got over throwing bucket of dices they are incredibly dull to play as an army. 2:Despite the models high cost, their insane ingame cost makes them surprisingly "cheap" 3:They are all FW, nice models who can come with horrendous casting issues. Buy an aerograph. 4:Clearly designed for Apocalypse, they shine against titanic targets but will also mow down any target they are fitted to deal with, you won't ever win an objective game, unless its against a knight army.

[@luciussulla2641]

a side note on chaos daemons. the army lists are pretty much the exact same for W40k, Horus Heresy, and AoS (as well as kill team). So while buying chaos daemons might be more expensive, you are effectively buying an army that works in four different games. Which is a pretty decent value if you're in an area that has them and you play them or want to try.

[@onionhat745]

I'm shelving my Marines until they get balanced.

[@NuclearLetsPlay]

They got a pretty heavy nerf recently

[@onionhat745]

@@NuclearLetsPlay I'm pretty happy about it. Not that it affected me too much, because my army is melee focused, but I just hated being thought of as a cheesemonger.

[@nitrsplays5388]

Tip with collecting imperial guard is to get the easy to build troops. 2 boxes is a squad and cheap at £10 GBP. In addition to that the easy to build makes excellent squad fillers as one normal troop box has the ability to make two sergents and two special weapon guys per squad so the easy to build combined with the normal box you can get two squads at about £25 GBP

[@auspextactics]

Good shout :) might have to make a 'starting guard' vid at some point

[@j453]

Is that "full army expected in 2037" on squats supposed to be a joke? It was so casually slid in at tbe end...I honestly wasn't sure if it's a joke or serious lol

[@babadook1283]

It's a joke, but it definitely has some merit. Basically at the earliest your completed army should take a year to assemble. That rule is in place so you 1) don't go into hobby debt quickly, and 2) know for sure this is something you enjoy.

[@j453]

@@babadook1283 I like that line of reasoning. I still haven't even 100% picked an army lol. Oh btw, is that a 2000point army?

[@Mr-Linderman]

Awesome break down for new players, great video. Even just to get a nice overview of what every faction is and it's play style

[@ThePrinceOfSpace413]

Everything is mid tier? Other than space Marines... So that means space Marines and trash?

[@fernandotrevinocastro1018]

Low tier nid here

[@lakesidefiddle8051]

Yes

[@Kanjejou]

as said above they were a bit sub par in competitiv, they have always been strong in non competitiv thx to reliability and decent choice of unit and tactics, now they crush everything in every game style except if the user go pure fluff configuration and you counter build him(which is an aass move ). so i expect a couple of nerf until they are good in competitiv but stay very good in non competitiv.

[@renmomo3510]

yes

[@TTCnoobyProductions]

I started with Imperial Gua...I mean Astra Militarum, cause I love the idea of just regular dudes fighting these unsurmountable existential horrors of the 41st Millenium... but oh boy is it tough to stay behind all the painting I have to do xD

[@prestonc8196]

Astra Miliwhat? You're in the guard, son!

[@lordcastellan4735]

Your commissar appreciates your attempt to use high gothic, but feels you need more instruction.

[@mysticlegion8088]

This lower, middle, and high tier stuff is a turn off for me. All factions should be pretty equal. Shouldn't be "metas".

[@Manglet762]

While I haven't played around with many armies and hardly any games at all, I asked how the balance is on 8th ed with three other people at once, and they basically said that ALL armies are viable if you play them right, aside from Grey Knights who don't fair well against other armies and "buff" Chaos Demons, somehow. So hearing that Grey Knights are mid tier is an eye-opener for me. Then again I had this discussion months ago, somewhere in last November/December, so they Knights were likely buffed somewhere in that time....or they may have been exaggerating the badness of the Knights...

[@mickwoodney7533]

well they've had 30 plus years to come up with a balanced version of this game, so don't hold your breath mate

[@alexrankin3019]

Anthony Smith Grey Knights were in a pretty bad spot before their rules update in psychic awakening. Now they actually stand a chance. I don’t foresee them winning tournaments a lot but they are definitely in a playable state now.

[@dddmemaybe]

The meta doesn't consistently impact "normal games" at all unless you pick a low-tier army, so specifically like Nids or Harlequinns. The tier list is basically only there to push you off of the few armies that have any consistent disadvantages. If it's not Low-tier or low-mid, don't care please. It doesn't really matter for any mid-tier army honestly. If you can find an army-specific expert player to help you avoid bad units, then none of the armies are bad at all.

[@mysticlegion8088]

@@dddmemaybe that's the whole point. Why does a "low tier" army exist? All armies should be balanced, it shouldn't be any "tiers".

[@salthcreative5540]

One thing I'd like to point out is still a playable faction that's around and would love to see get some attention (if nothing else so we might get a bloody Codex rather than the Index) are The Renegades and Heretics. Love those guys, doing a mixture of Iron Warriors and them currently. Other than that, nice roundup!

[@Woofyyyy]

Mostly wrong, the answer is orks

[@troygarrett5245]

Woofyyyy do you prefer Gork or Mork

[@Woofyyyy]

​@@troygarrett5245I prefer Gork, but I also prefer Mork

[@wisaac9297]

Woofyyyy this id the only correct way ti answer that question

[@creacat]

On a purely value front, the daemons give you an army for sigmar and 40k without any conversion necessary. But good guide for a new starter anyway.

[@calgar42k]

None ! The competitive side of the hobby is a mess where victory is mostly achieved through money whoever can buy and paint the most OP codex at the time and spam unbalanced units ...Dont get me wrong winners are also good players but the fact is your army list do 70 % of the work ...

[@johnnyk617]

This was a fantastic video very detailed but also to the point

[@lv_Mortarion_vl]

Some (hopefully constructive) criticism: Maybe someone already told you that, but I'll have to do it again- your voice is a bit monotonous. Which is not necessarily that big of a deal to be honest- but it became a big deal when you started your video by talking about all the different variations of space marines instead of going in alphabetical order or I dunno, release order or something.... This way I couldn't resist commenting that it's extremely monotonous. I have a few thousand points of space marines and hearing about marines 5 times in a row definitely gives me a strong desire to stop watching the video. So next time maybe try to keep variety in mind... Or don't, it's just my thoughts on the matter

[@willratcliffe8015]

In any strategy based miniatures game its better if you look a bit deeper than which models looks the coolest. What I mean by this is look at how a certain army/team actually plays, some will be lightly armoured but fast moving whilst an other could be slow and sluggish but do loads of damage per attack. In the end the ONLY important things that matters is how YOU enjoy playing and that you have fun, but do you just want to steam in and rampage about or do you prepare lighting quick raids, getting in and out before your hit???? and these are only two of the many various strategic stereotypes so make quite sure you enjoy playing a certain type of way before spending your hard earned money , because you could have the coolest looking army with an amazing paint job, the whole nine yards, BUT if you don’t like how it fights you simply won’t get nowhere near as much enjoyment out of your battles. One simple and free but by far from sure way of finding out what strategy you prefer is to look at computer fighting games such as Mortal Kombat and street fighter, what kind of character do you normally pick. Please do not take this as a fool proof way of selecting a strategy, but it can be a very basic guide to how you enjoy playing and how your mind works. I hope this helps you in some way.

[@flamingmuffin666]

This is warhammer asmr, unintentional, which makes it the best kind of asmr.

[@greasykiwi2935]

My first big set of miniatures was admech. Let’s just say i vastly underestimated how hard it is to paint them

[@_Aly_00_]

Just go with whatever you personally think looks the coolest and who's lore you enjoy the most. The meta is in a constant state of flux, whats top-tier one month can be reserved in the next and the enjoyment you'll get from using a faction you genuinely like will make the hobby much more fun.

[@irtehdar2446]

If youre really new to the game and looking to get your first army up and running go Space Marines. You can paint them your favorite colour. Ideally you want to take to the battlefield quick and start actually playing asap. They are a cheap army to get into, pretty forgiving being able to bounce back from rookie mistakes giving the novice player a chance to learn the game. And once you start expanding your starting force they can be taken in any dirrection making the army style you prefer. You can even if you so choose with minimal effort convert your army into chaosmarines and start adding in some chaos shenanigans. And you can paint them your favorite color. And them being the 40k posterboys you can rest assured your force will remain in the middle-upper range of strength for years to come. You wont suddently wake up and realize half your army has gone the way of the dodo. Maybe a model here or there might fall out of favour for an eddition but other armies suffer from whole units suffering that fate from time to time. Oh and did I mention you can paint them your favorite colour.

[@TypeiZ]

looked for a video like this for 2 days... ty

[@briancline7349]

Personally I’m waiting to get into the hobby for the full release of the Squat army expected in 2037... I was just going to make the plunge and get a different army until I saw this video and saw that the squats finally have an expected release date!

[@lizdryburgh6243]

I started collecting ultramarines then went on to tyranids/genestealers I now collect Death Guard the models are amazingly detailed

[@jonathannoble7657]

Just started buying a whole heap of Tyranid. Love every one of their models so I thought it was best way to go. I did not know that they were doing poorly in competitive so I hope next edition will come out around the time that I finish them. It will be a long time before I get to the point of being competitive and finish painting them. (Got a bio-swarm, start collecting and warriors brood) So if you are making an army put that into consideration. You won’t be playing pro players likely when you start out so, competitive doesn’t matter until you are a year or two into playing the hobby regularly. By that time you could start branching out into a new army if you wish with a better grasp on the game. This is my way of thinking anyway.

[@CarburetorThompson]

Jonathan Noble Tyranids really got done dirty, but if you really know your army I don’t doubt that you’d be able to win a tournament or two at your local games store with what you have.

[@jonathannoble7657]

@@CarburetorThompson yes banking on genestealer cheese. lol

[@hikkigamer8082]

@@jonathannoble7657 Honestly this is best attitude to have. Rules are temporary, models are forever. But I wouldn't feel too bad, Nids still have very powerful tools and are not offensively bad at least.

[@cooper_gray]

I love playing at a disadvantage so I stay on my feet the whole match. I'm picking death guard. They seem like ass if you can't use them properly and i look forward to finding work arounds to their mobility and range

[@Roylevis]

Admech got handsdown the coolest and nicest looking standard troops. love my cyberpunk boys

[@Jalbert1995]

Table top simulator is a great program that will let you play around with these armies before making your decision.

[@itzopt]

Thank you so much for the amount of work you put into this video. I appreciate your work