Which Baseball Stats ACTUALLY MATTER?

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Күн бұрын

Baseball stats can be extremely difficult to understand, so if you're a beginner, or just want some more information about what are the most important stats to be looking at for Baseball, this is the video for you. From Aaron Judge's Baseball Savant, to Mookie Betts MLB Statistics. If you need to know whether to look at ERA or Home Runs, just watch this video and then you'll know for the future!
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@bladestaff46 2 ай бұрын

The fact DeGrom wasn't a unanimous Cy Young winner is baffling

@ChristopherM720 Күн бұрын

Degrom in 2018 was so amazing that a pitcher for the Rockies throwing a 2.40 era over 100 innings in Coors Field pales by comp. One of the best pitching seasons of the past 40 years.

@_michael_g 2 ай бұрын

war compares you to a replacement level player, not an average player, so zero war is actually below average. waa (wins above average) would compare you to an average player

@ProjectSubject-dv1lo 2 ай бұрын

I was gonna point that out too

@nacoran Ай бұрын

I always felt that players must have lobbied for it to be vs. replacement level... it's easier to negotiate a contract with a number that rates you as a positive number than one that can go negative. Subtract 2.1.... a guy with a 1.7 WAR looks playable. If you compare it to average they end up with a -0.4, which looks bad. Same player and stats, but man, it's got to be easier to negotiate a contract with a positive number.

@peterparker-zy9oe Ай бұрын

@@nacoranthat's highly unlikely. When these stats were made and named no player even knew about them. The point of comparing to a replacement level player is to know if you deserve a roster spot in mlb or not. There are plenty of guys who are below average but still get decent playing time because there is value in just playing a lot and being good enough. Think of a 4th Or 5th starter for a team.

@yirehyoon6316 2 ай бұрын

4 runs in 18 innings is not a 4.5 era its a 2 era

@beneniy988 Ай бұрын

thats what im sayin lol

@markowojtkowiak7685 12 сағат бұрын

Yeah funny af when he starts the video being all high and mighty about winning arguments.

@hoppy23 Ай бұрын

One mistake WAR isn't based off the average player it's based off the r3placement level so a war of 0 for a whole season is actually worse then average it would mean your as good as a replacement level player

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

I always use those words interchangeably, they’re so similar in my brain hit you are correct!

@LaMonteWade31 2 ай бұрын

Hey! I’m LaMonte Wade! 👋 I agree a lot with what you said about the W/L stat. Unfair for pitchers since it also depends on offense

@huntzzio Ай бұрын

Id like to mention 2 more things for pitchers: 1. Ground ball percentage is good, because SLG on ground balls is significantly less than SLG on fly balls. 2. Stuff, Location, and Pitching+ show how well the pitches move, how well they are placed, and a combination of the two things basically show how good you are with your pitches. Its better than movement profile in my opinion

@adamcrayon3747 4 күн бұрын

Really helpful vid, much appreciated as someone who's trying to wrap their head around the more basic and talked about stats 👍

@saltywingsandavsfan 2 ай бұрын

Thank you for this video bro. I’ve been kinda struggling to understand pitching stats like WHIP and WAR for hitters in general.

@peskytalk 2 ай бұрын

Did I cover those stats well enough for you to understand!

@saltywingsandavsfan 2 ай бұрын

@@peskytalk yessir

@ChubyBoi Ай бұрын

@@peskytalkwar is above replacement not above average

@pepe_frog Ай бұрын

Came here to hear your opinion on pitcher record. Couldn’t have summed it up any better

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

Throw it In the trash

@komickaze85 2 ай бұрын

I just subscribed. Thought I already was. Lot of great baseball channels out there. You're one of them.

@tdeckler4817 2 ай бұрын

Please make more like this I like it a lot and it helps me as a capper

@chuckjammy9251 Ай бұрын

OPS+ OBP, Slugging, OPS, wOBA, WRC+ are basically everything you need to measure a hitter. It’s nice to look at stolen bases & extra base hits as well for more context. It’s also nice to know how many games they played & plate appearances they had. WAR/offensive WAR/defensive WAR are great for comparing player of the same position. For pitchers just look at ERA+, ERA, WHIP, FIP, also K/9 H/9 & BB/9 are great to look at & add context. Also innings pitched is important but that’s a given

@stephengreidanus 2 ай бұрын

I think you got era wrong. Wouldnt 4 runs in 18 innings be an era of 2? Since you take 9×earned runs÷innings? Or am i wrong?

@brysonbox5813 2 ай бұрын

yeah i noticed that too

@peskytalk 2 ай бұрын

You’re right I just failed the math, thank you lol

@stephengreidanus 2 ай бұрын

@@peskytalk all good man you did a lot of research and put together a well thought out video a mistake is bound to happen!

@Trouble_90210 Ай бұрын

Just got into baseball this is very helpful, thanks

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

I’m glad it’s Helping!

@ChristopherM720 Күн бұрын

ERA+ is good to compare eras, but I think we need a K+/BB+ and WHIP+ because the different eras make the stats hard to compare. Nolan Ryan getting 300 plus Ks in an era where strikeouts were viewed as evil is far more impressive than getting 300Ks in this era.

@ozzuzzomg 2 ай бұрын

5:28 its not a 4.5 era, you divide the innings pitched by 9 and then the runs allowed by that number. so 18/9=2 and then 4/2=2 it is a 2 era

@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl 2 ай бұрын

I feel like K’s per 9 matters for starters more than Relief pitchers. I’d like to know if their some stat that determines like ex how many extra ground ball outs by the fielders or themself

@hoppy23 Ай бұрын

@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl I actually feel the opposite I'd rather have a starter whose a ground ball pitcher then a reliver who is one

@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl Ай бұрын

@@hoppy23 interesting

@huntzzio Ай бұрын

@@hoppy23I agree

@Nando-c3sd 2 ай бұрын

They all matter. Some are more important than others, but it all matters.

@ubereats3047 Ай бұрын

The stats that matter are the ones that favor the player I’m defending

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

Exactly

@brandonb3311 2 ай бұрын

i needed this video, thank you! I'm 34 years old, not that I'm saying I'm old but all of this advanced stats have been very prevalent within the last idk, 7-10 years? All of this extra stuff is too much for me to wrap my head around all of this lol

@sebastiangiraldo2271 2 ай бұрын

If u give up 4 runs in 18 innings isn’t ERA a 2 ..?

@nacoran Ай бұрын

I don't like FIP as an isolated stat. If you induce a lot of contact that turns into ground balls the fact that your team has a lousy infield may in fact affect the outcome of the game, but that's really on the infield, not the pitcher. A better stat would consider ERA+ in a way that adjusts where the pitcher gets the ball hit vs. the differential between the average dWar for that position vs. his teams dWar. The problem with the eye test is that a player who gets a late jump and runs slowly but who lays out every time it looks close, can look good to the eye. Jeter may have had a great looking jump throw, but a lot of short stops would have gotten to those balls easily and not needed a jump throw. (Now, on the other hand, his famous hustle throw near home was good hard play).

@peterskrobola8753 Ай бұрын

Baseball Reference has a splits page too. Though Fangraphs has more control and information despite being generally unintuitive.

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

Yes, and fangraphs website is a pain to navigate but I like their splits more than baseball reference! It’s also just less confusing to have those things split up on different websites in my opinion

@peterskrobola8753 Ай бұрын

@@peskytalk I agree. They also have more in depth defensive numbers (OAA) by position. Which I couldn’t even find on Baseball Savant.

@JtheGamer-bv3ld Ай бұрын

Love yur videos

@omalleycaboose5937 Ай бұрын

For me, Era, BA, HR total, OBP are the ones i look at to assess players.

@tarilapoweigha9017 Ай бұрын

Baseball nerds use stats like war and ops and all this other extra stuff but some extra stats are interesting and looking at a players fan graphs.

@rsv9999 Ай бұрын

i see a lot of people here talking about the "replacement level player" instead of the average player, but nobody here is defining what a replacement level player is, by a good way to think about it in your head, if you took the average triple a guy and called him up, that's a 0 WAR season, but to actually define it as the stats did: a full team of people who had a 40 win season is a team where everyone produced 0 war

@rupert_1491 Ай бұрын

It should be noted that hit by pitch is also accounted for in obp

@dillonharkness1112 2 ай бұрын

War Offense: Ops, Ops+,wrc+, hr Pitching: era, fip, whip, whiff rate

@DerFleisch Ай бұрын

The most important stat in all of baseball is Gross Wins Above Replacement, or GWAR.

@Blaxk_tl Ай бұрын

5:30 you have to check it again because 4 runs through 18 innings would be a 2 era. Thats 2 runs per nine innings pitched

@Blaxk_tl Ай бұрын

Yea everybody corrected you lmao

@ChristopherM720 Күн бұрын

I find FIP to be among the least helpful stats. It's not luck, it's the game. Many pitchers (like Greg Maddux) knew getting weak contact was smarter than going for K if you want to work longer in the game. Teams have strategies for their starters, and spend millions to build great defenses. A stat that pretends the game is simply batter vs pitcher with no one but the catcher on the field is inherently useless. When your team has a sucky bullpen and you need to go deeper into games, relying on defense (and yes some luck) is more important for winning the game...which is tbt ultimate goal. It's just a silly stat.

@ChristopherM720 Күн бұрын

The issue with WAR is accounting for defense, across eras especially since we don't have advanced metrics. But the reality is dWAR is still a mess because there remain a great divergence in calculating them. Especially in funky fields like Coors where there is a huge outfield, or Fenway, with its odd Dimensions. So, WAR isn't as perfect as it's treated. Again, for players before 2010...dWAR is a mess.

@Twxzzie 2 ай бұрын

Hour gang 👇

@phtyoscrubs 2 ай бұрын

Does 9 hr count? Loooooooool

@Blubbluh Ай бұрын

walk =/= single, singles are way more valuable. A single can bring a runner in from 2nd,3rd, even 1st sometimes. As a Padres fan, I feel way better with Arraez and a runner on in the clutch than I ever did with Soto, cause I knew Soto was searching for the walk.

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

Yes but a hitter that walks is much more valuable than a hitter that cannot walk if they have the same other stats!

@SushiRollAnimations Ай бұрын

Ceddane rafaela is a bad defender at least right now. He does make incredible diving plays, but he makes way too many errors. just today he costed us a run against the o's on a bad throw. However, he is a great defender when. he's in center, he just needs to work on infield defense. His defense in the infield will be elite in a few years, but there are growing pains and as of now, I would rather have a league average shortstop defensively-wise

@Qntn04 Ай бұрын

Is there a way to overlap all the pitches one pitcher has in one of those maps of the strike zones?

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

Probably on baseball savant, I’m not exactly sure how but it would have something to do with going on the pitchers page and then messed around with the tabs under 3D illustrator I’m sure

@thatoldyankeesguy 2 ай бұрын

I appreciate your information on the "advanced stats" that you like or use but you left off one of the most important stats in the game; RBI's. If you don't have anyone knocking in the runs, you don't win. Sounds elementary I know but it had to be said. Which brings me to my second point, Batting Average. Batting Average is absolutely, positively way more important than On-Base Percentage. Don't get me wrong, Oo-Base is extremely important but a hit is way more important than a walk as you may have a chance for the aforementioned RBI's or to move a runner already on base from first to third. I really like the OPS+ stat but it's not taking into affect the things I mentioned. So, just consider that for the way you think about baseball. Btw, FanGraphs is awesome as I compare some of my favorite players like Joe DiMaggio with today's amazing Yankees like Juan Soto or Aaron Judge. 👍 🇺🇲

@peskytalk 2 ай бұрын

RBIs are very team dependent as well however. I would like RBIs per opportunity or something like that, but I don’t like RBIs as a stat because of situation, such as a leadoff hitter will never has as many as a 3 hole hitter!

@joeturner9692 Ай бұрын

OBP is more important than batting average because OBP has a higher correlation to runs scored than batting average does. It's not really a debate any more.

@tarilapoweigha9017 Ай бұрын

Era has always matter more than win loss which is obvious.

@mikewood8561 Ай бұрын

Does savant have a page with the top say 100 players in the league in hitting stats? I went on the site and it looks like you have to just type in a players name to get his stats. That's fine but I want to know the top 100 hitters as of this second with all their stats

@davidhumphreys3199 Ай бұрын

You’re in a really weird spot with this video where it could easily be 3 hours long just explaining a third of what was covered in this video but you’re also introducing stats and metrics to people who are trying to learn/deepen their understanding of baseball and you need to explain it in a quick and engaging way. Overall a good video though. I think you found a good middle ground.

@Iridescence93 2 ай бұрын

Just t let you know no one ever said we should JUST look at pitcher wins. In the 80s people would still look at ERA and strikeouts and see DeGrom as a tough luck pitcher with no run support. People judge pitchers in a more sophisticated way now (especially since we have access to so many more advanced metrics) but it's not as extreme as you make out here

@tubbyidk1474 2 ай бұрын

before i start watching, all of them, including xBACON

@tubbyidk1474 2 ай бұрын

real talk, xBACON is kinda important, to me just a companion to the superior BABIP, BACON.

@peskytalk 2 ай бұрын

I agree! But beginners will find Batting Average on OPS much more valuable than something that will take them years to understand like xwoBACon!

@tubbyidk1474 2 ай бұрын

@@peskytalk after watching the video, I'd like to point out a few pieces of misinformation; whiff rate - whiff rate is swing and miss% on all swings, not just Zone swings (can be confirmed by doing a few baseball savant searches for all swings, just swings and misses, then dividing swings and misses by all swings and it will equal the Whiff% that shows up on a player's savant page) -Chase rate was a little off too, though I don't blame you. Better to just say "outside of zone" than "firmly out of zone", whenever it'd take a bit to explain the attack zones as well as I'm sure many people think that oZone Whiff% and Chase% are the same. Sweet Spot% - there's a reason Baseball Savant added the "LA-" part before LA-Sweet Spot% after the introduction of Bat Speed metrics. This is because LA-Sweet Spots and Bat Sweet Spots are different as shown in swing graphics occasionally shown (were more prevalent right after the release of Bat Speed metrics). LA-Sweet Spot% is the Percent of Batted Balls with a Launch Angle between 8 and 32 degrees. WAR - On the WAR explanation, you claimed that a 0 WAR is an average player, which is not true. That is typically a 2 WAR Player. THOUGH, a 0 WAA player, IS average. Same thing applies to the "8 WAR" thing I recall being mentioned, though I don't remember it well. There are likely a few other things incorrect, as well as some things we disagree on (x/9 Stats being better than X% [for pitchers], though that may just be because X/9 is easier to contextualize. Enjoyed the video, not often is this kind of content on youtube, there were just a few factually incorrect statements that bugged me as I watched it. thx if you read all this lol.

@glenmetherell7410 Ай бұрын

This video is exhibit A of why most folks who think sabermetrics are good don’t know an actual thing about baseball.

@MoeAintLow 2 ай бұрын

batting average all always matter idc what stat nerds say

@tarilapoweigha9017 Ай бұрын

That's why stats can be overrated because eye test tells whos a good defender and I prefer a firlder with a good arm because they don't get tested as much as outfielders plus they have a better chance of throwing runners out.

@FroyoMNS Ай бұрын

K% and BB% are way better than K/9 and BB/9.

@VioletDeliriums Ай бұрын

You know what stat matters? Team W & L and standings. It is a team game. The rest, for the purposes of fans, is a participation trophy.

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

Well that’s not true, it’s also how valuable those players are, the largest contract of all time is wrong a player that NEVER was on a winning team

@VioletDeliriums Ай бұрын

@@peskytalk Those stats are for moneyball managers to use more than fans. I am here for watching my team kick ass and win the World Series. I don't care about the stats.

@owenmckendry7961 Ай бұрын

Who is your favorite baseball player of all time

@peskytalk Ай бұрын

Xander Bogaerts was for a long time but Jarren Duran is getting close to my favorite ever

@Anime12protagonist 2 ай бұрын

I think WINS matter. Who can hit and pitch when ur NUTS r on the line

@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl 2 ай бұрын

Is their a stat for how many K’s a batter has by poor swings vs pitchers pitches. Also is their a stat for RBI’s per game or something thanks man🙏

@peskytalk 2 ай бұрын

For RBIS per game you can easily solve that on your own, if a player has 100 games played and 50 RBIs hed be averaging 0.50 RBIs per game! Just divide the RBIs by games played!

@peskytalk 2 ай бұрын

And chase rate tells you how often guys are swinging at your pitches ouside of the zone, that’s probably the closest to what you’re asking

@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl 2 ай бұрын

@@peskytalk thanks

@Snailsareawesome-yb5hl 2 ай бұрын

@@peskytalk oh

@connorisgrab4386 2 ай бұрын

am i correct or false in assuming that ops is your average bases per at bat? so if a player has a 500 ops they average 0.5 bases per at bat and a player with a 1000 ops averages 1 base per at bat? it makes sense (to me anyways) because the max ops is 4000 if you hit a homerun every at bat

@connorisgrab4386 2 ай бұрын

also i believe you said in the video that if a pitcher gave up 4 runs in 18 innings that they would have a 4.5 era when it would be 2 runs per 9 innings. not entirely sure on that one though

@tubbyidk1474 2 ай бұрын

that is Slugging Percentage, aka the “S” in “OPS”

@tubbyidk1474 2 ай бұрын

SLG = Total Bases/At Bat Total Bases = (1B*1)+(2B*2)+(3B*3)+(HR*4)

@connorisgrab4386 Ай бұрын

@@tubbyidk1474 ah ty

@tarilapoweigha9017 Ай бұрын

Ops is one of the most overrated stats I prefer batting average ops is why people except guys batting only .220 which is not good especially when those .220 hitters strikeout too much. You can't drive in a run or 2 with lower batting average from 2nd and 3rd if you're getting out especially with 2 outs but you can if you get hits more regularly.

@ChristopherM720 Күн бұрын

That is the one piece that still matters. Sure, a walk is a plus, but if you need to score that runner from 2B/3B, you are just passing the buck to the next guy, and on teams with weak lineup coverage, taking a walk could doom your team.

@michelangelocaruncho8571 2 ай бұрын

Average home runs and rbi the way it has ever been for years now those are truly the only stats that matter there is a reason why the triple crown is the triple crown

@elliskennedy9885 Ай бұрын

There are way more important stats than just those 3. Just because its been that way for a long time doesn't mean it is correct

@michelangelocaruncho8571 Ай бұрын

@@elliskennedy9885 really? You read half of what I said and completely twisted it around. Usually that’s what people do when they have no idea what there talking about. 1 no where did I say they are the most importantly stats because it’s the way it’s always been. I was simply stating a fact and number 2 yes it actually does mean it’s correct you 🤡 ever heard of the triple crown????? What other stats are more important? You really mean to sit here and tell me you judge a player based on slugging percentage and on base percentage for example when they could could be great at both of those but be a terrible player? You are ok with embarrassing yourself like that? If you lead in even just one of the three triple crown categories then you can accurately judge how valuable a guy is. How is this hard to understand? You are definitely the only one to have that terrible opinion.

@elliskennedy9885 Ай бұрын

@@michelangelocaruncho8571 How can a player be a bad hitter with a good OBP and SLG?

@michelangelocaruncho8571 Ай бұрын

@@elliskennedy9885 because you don’t need to get hits for both those stats you can have shit average and shit home run totals and overall be terrible and still have a high slugging and obp. That’s literally the entire money ball strategy get cheap terrible players that get on base. Once again this is common sense for just the average baseball fan to understand I think your just arguing for the sake of arguing I feel like you get all this already

@elliskennedy9885 Ай бұрын

@@michelangelocaruncho8571 you need to get hits for both obp and slg lmao what are you talking about