Which Commander Precons are Worth Buying NOW?

[@christopherdukett4158]

Hands down, Scrappy Survivors has been the best precon I've ever purchased. I mean, not just because it's Dogmeat, but the junk tokens are so freaking awesome!!

[@NitpickingNerds]

Junk tokens are super nice!

[@DarkMagicGamer]

I just bought a precon deck, Merfolk from Lost Caverns of Ixalan.

[@MRAIClassroom]

That is a good one. Very strong out of the box and fun to play!

[@dznts69420]

i hope you like math lol

[@jajahatman8842]

I am a huge fan of the blue/black Zombies precon, would highly recommend

[@NitpickingNerds]

Which one? lol

[@ardentdino7299]

@@NitpickingNerds The one you guys recommended and if you want Wilhelt just buy him as a single and run him as the commander instead

[@eebbaa5560]

@@ardentdino7299 which deck is actually better though?

[@ardentdino7299]

@@eebbaa5560 They are essentially the same deck, dimir zombies, Grave danger better to deck due to price, just get Wilhelt as a single(upgrade) and run him as the commander since he much better then gisa and geralf

[@accidentallike8977]

Tribal decks always appeal to new players because the synergy is so clear and flavorful. But I feel non-tribal themes are just easier to upgrade regularly. There are just more Graveyard synergies than merfolk. So I recommend the MKM Dimir reanimator/ surveil deck.

[@erichunt1974]

I cannot agree with this sentiment more. I started with Mono-Red Goblins and had so much fun with our boy Krenko, Mob Boss that I just couldn't stop doubling them.

[@dimitriid]

It's not just easier but it makes players have to consider a lot more magic aspects when playing commander: While tribal cards are often a boon for new players, they can also be a crutch: once you're used to just creature synergies you do not have to look as much as things like mana costs and henceforth you don't have to look as much at the mana curve and the mana base. I would argue that the same inherent acceleration having a strong tribe deck makes players that would go from new to experience to not get used to run proper levels of interaction. That's why I'd like to see more harder-to-run (So to speak) tactics on precons like spell slinging or control: that way the transition from casual playing to more high powered or even competitive EDH woudln't be as pronounced once you don't have the benefit of tribal payoffs and have to look at actually searching for cards that overall more playable instead of the usual 'This is expensive but it works cause of tribal synergy'

[@danielgoldberg2129]

Tribal decks are generally weaker because if you stick to the theme you’re not always using the best cards, but the thematic ones.

[@A3TH3R-dj3hj]

tribal anthems go sooo hard. slam an enchantment/creature onto the field and *bam* lethal damage

[@harveyhale1101]

The Hakbal Merfolk precon is easily my favorite and what I consider to be a really good precon to get. I only added like 4 cards before a commander night a the LGS, didn't even draw any of my upgrade pieces but the deck operates so synergisticly

[@halihalo21]

I think its almost one of the best precons. It has consistent and big card draw. Solid ramp with the commander and gives a ton of stats with so much opportunities to swing with unblockable creatures. The most powerful combo in the deck is deeproot waters with Reflections of Littjara.

[@CTimmerman]

Hakbal went harder than my Edgar Markov iirc

[@HappyGoldfis]

Ellivere "virtue and valor" has been a freaking BANGER. it was pretty easy to upgrade, just getting better enchantments, get a few white staples like light paws makes her sing.

[@harleybaker4684]

That thing out of the box is so strong!!!

[@marlonarocha158]

Just got that one for my girlfriend to get her into MTG and omg is super strong hahaha

[@DanteInformal]

I feel so validated that three of my favorite precons (Leinore, Jirina, and Millicent) all made your list. And i still have all of them in my regular rotation!

[@granthse]

I got the spirit deck a bit ago, always a black player since I like spooky stuff and spirits was my way out of black while stay spooky. been looking for a good spirit comander for years so finally bought the deck and wow it does wonders, some small upgrades and it gets out of control so fast i love it.

[@weihaigoh9734]

My first precon deck is Ruthless Regiment in 2020. It was a good deck but not the overpower deck, but the +2/+0 really made the deck more aggressive, and the only problem was the card draw and mana before upgrading. Everyone asked me to use Ceaser, but I like the human tribal deck, and Jirina Kudro ability is fit and nice. Some cards are very nice, like the Calvary that chooses the creature type, then humans you control will have protection from chosen creatures, and it is really good when facing tribal deck. I love Jirina Kudro as my commander. It's good to see the deck on the list.

[@IvanKolyada]

Jirina is my favorite as well. Although sometimes I swap her for Tymna/Bruse Tarl, but still a nice CMDR overall.

[@thatdude2508]

I just bought the Hail Ceasar Fallout deck yesterday, and it's been a ton of fun playing with it. I might swap in Isshin as the commander and add in a couple of upgrades since doubling all those attack triggers sounds really fun.

[@Timmy_Tuner]

Can only recommend Coven Counters! I bought it for 16€ and upgraded it a lot with the alternate Commander Choice Kylar.

[@kylescott7654]

I ended up buying the chaos incarnate pre con when i got into MTG. All my friends hated me because i was using goad. i then upgraded it wondering how annoying i could be. It later turned into a Thantis fog deck which got me targeting first every game. i realized the error of what i did. so i did the responsible thing, i took out my wallet, went to my LGS and i turned the entire deck into a Korvold Aristocrats deck, Cant target me if you're dead ! lmao

[@deejayf69]

I like the oops all Grave Titan Precon the most. It features such great cards as Grave Titan, and Grave Titan! I heard it's Nitpicking Nerd's favorite card and an auto include in every deck!

[@AntonioBaker-q4o]

Which one is dat

[@deejayf69]

@@AntonioBaker-q4o why, the one that includes 40 copies of Grave Titan, of course!

[@roysmoothfinger]

Dude, I look down at my 2 standard commander decks I own and I see one of these 2 decks are the 5th spirit deck. I'm glad to know I've been sitting on a good deck all these years.

[@chrisschneider2393]

Love your precon videos. Helping me get into the game!

[@laakso479]

I just upgraded my Fiancé’s coven counter deck. I was worried it was too old. This made me feel a lot better. Thanks!

[@NitpickingNerds]

The deck is great for the price tag, especially if you throw a few bucks into upgrading it!

[@HerrenGamingNews]

I bought the Kardur Chaos Incarnate starter deck for my first commander and haven't regretted it at all. The deck out of the box is pretty strong, so far I've added reanimate, Rakdos The lord of Riots, Rakdos the Defiler, Whip of Erebos and Reanimate. I added one other legendary creature but I can't remember. Next on my list is Rakdos the muscle and Rakdos Joins. I also picked up Death Toll and Eldrazi, Incursion. Though my friend bought me Death Toll and I only wanted it for reanimate for my Kardur deck the Whip of Erebos was a great thing to have. I'm focusing on upgrading my Kardur and Eldrazi. Eldrazi is going to be expensive to get it up to it's full potential so far I priced the upgrades at $200cad.

[@RedJadeArt]

4:32 I would probably just buy this and put Katilda in as the commander, but tbf I like having one sided howling mine on a commander too so can hardly complain about that

[@Wojtek36762]

Can confirm about the value on the Millicent and Stella Lee decks. My friend bought the Leinore deck and threw Khatilda from the main set in the command zone. The deck worked fine that way and gets cool new additions in lots of sets. Millicent is great, you can just do a search for spirits and most of the good ones you’d add are very cheap. Like Beezy said, $15 worth of upgrades plus the stuff in your binder will do a ton.

[@chrispynation5133]

When you recommended taking out windfall from Stella Lee, I laughed a bit. I just bought the precon and played a few games this weekend. I managed take out a player by casting 3 copies of windfall while they had 11 cards in hand. that card has now cemented itself as a staple for me. I lost quickly after that lol but it was a great game. Deck out by mega draw is a fun way to go

[@CadePokeFan]

It also combos quite nicely with Pyretic Charge as a wincon in non-infinite versions of Stella. Windfall into Pyretic Charge often boosts your team by +9 or +10 power or more

[@mrjey3434]

And do you know why you lost? Because you just gave your opponents 33 cards three times The card is so bad if you're not abusing it

[@keensley91]

I won my last 2 games with the Stella Lee deck with some insane turns - Propaganda and Epic Experiment actually played a big part in those wins too! Propaganda is great if you draw it in the early game.

[@TheAdaoo7]

Im having a great time with deadly disguise from karlov manor. Less fun when there's 5 ppl at the table and 2 of them are white/blue decks that exile about 4 creatures per turn and board wipe every other turn

[@Yeheah]

I started with Scrappy Survivors and Quick Draw. Both are fantastic decks, very funny and beautiful cards :)

[@ryanbliss827]

I wanna add that for the ruthless regiment deck, the sub-commanders from the deck, Trynn and Silvar, are maybe my favorite partner pairing in commander and they can effortlessly swap in as your commanders without almost any changes being made to the deck

[@NitpickingNerds]

I think this whole precon is SUPER underappreciated

[@bryandegroat857]

Pro tip: replace Lenoire with Kyler, dude is a nasty human tribal commander

[@chrisramsey5017]

Looks like you're using Moxfield for "value of the cards within" -- keep in mind they often tie about $10 into Basic lands.

[@NitpickingNerds]

They can do that with certain special printings but generally not for any basic lands coming out of booster packs

[@canaantravis]

I don’t think moxfield takes the price of basic lands into account, when doing my recent 100 dollar budget deck I removed all the basics because it was saying they were worth 35 cents a piece and I didn’t want to count those towards the price but the total deck price stat stayed the same afterwards

[@chrisramsey5017]

@@NitpickingNerds Verified and stand corrected. Thanks for noticing that. I aw the "$8.75 listing for the 25 basics in the Vampiric Bloodline precon, but at the top in the category of lands, it lists $6.76 for the value of that category, which suggests it's omitting the value of basic lands (though it still counts everything else at a minimum of $0.35, as @canaantravis has noted.)

[@kamilczerwonka9652]

Always can do the -10 +10 cards and it gets 20% more fun and synergy

[@Drakelis]

Ruthless Regiment can be turned into a flexible powerhouse if you switch to Trynn/Silvar as the commanders. You can go tall with Silvar, wide with humans, or aristocrats if combat doesn't work. I only took the deck apart because I wanted to experiment with other orzhov commanders and needed the pieces.

[@christopherdukett4158]

Dont know if you have tried the Hail Caesar deck yet, but Trynn/Silvar are a shoe in for that deck and from your comment it seems right up your alley.

[@brickmotionfilms7437]

Would you recommend the Hail Caeser deck from the fallout set?

[@danielgoldberg2129]

I’m building a River Song deck and there is a lot of overlap with the Stella Lee deck. I like the idea of casting spells from the top and bottom of my deck, and from exile.😂

[@NitpickingNerds]

Anywhere but your hand lol

[@skulletorable]

Any lost caverns deck is great tbh. Merfolk is best out of the box and is the strongest of the four in my opinion. Super easy for new players too once you know what explore does

[@edwarddaignault5243]

The dino deck is pretty good too, I've won a few games without upgrading a single card yet

[@walrider8073]

The ixalan merfolk pre con is probably the strongest "cheap" pre con you can get. Its very strong and simple to play. Snowballs out of control very fast. all you have to do to upgrade it is to put 2-4 counter spells in it for the card you dont like

[@michaelgeurts9405]

Funny that you guys reccomend grave danger. That is the deck that i pulled out of my bag as it was too slow.

[@gabzsy4924]

Just checked, the Ruthless Regiment precon dosn't come with 100usd in value, it's more like 27usd in value. At lease where I'm from, but they charging 50usd for it.

[@MTGfiro]

mys was spirit squadon and i upgrade it now for 6 months :) i have a very good win lose rate with that deck and the good thing is, that not everyone knows your deck if you fight them the first time

[@tonobaker601]

10:47 beezy holding his tongue like a true lad

[@littlemunchkinman2794]

I actually got leinorre as a birthday gift, and built around her in the same day, buying all the cards I needed

[@maximiliancunningham6598]

If you are using coven counters, switch out the commanders. Kyler feels WAY more powerful then Leinoire.

[@GhostlyGhost333]

The spirit squadron deck is super solid. And the selysnia humans deck they showed at the beginning is solid as well.

[@yoshitheonly]

The Crimson Vow Precon set was the best thing to get me into magic. Either you make 3 dozen spirits, or cheat down massive vampires. So glad MTG made sich a perfect gothic set to hook me in. Now I'm 15 decks deep bc of it.

[@themoops4006]

a lot of these precons that are 1-3 years old have been showing up on clearance at big-box stores like wal-mart, i've seen tons of them for about $32 there in particular

[@All_that_is_Magic]

Fallout is one of the best ones out there. Also in value for collectors. I am now opening all 4 on my own channel and am stoked on the first one.

[@glubgawd7393]

I snagged the “Eldrazi” pre con, the 2x cascade commander is cool, but if you run Kozilek that comes in the deck he’s just ridiculous to deal with if he hits the table

[@Cupitron]

Play from exile, Cavalry Charge, All the Ixalan Precons IMO. They are greeeat

[@A3TH3R-dj3hj]

I'm so surprised that Prosper's deck didnt make it onto this video. Love that Precon

[@Rafesco]

The same is true for the dragon precon with atarka, and others like the dinosaur or merfolk one. I think it's because some precons are harder to get or too expensive. So they give precons that are playable and cheap

[@michaelhurst5403]

Looking forward to the quick draw one. Thanks for video

[@Phoenix-bt9mj]

It seems amazing to me that Spirit squadron is 35$. In germany at my LGS it is available for 15 €, there are many Extras since it wasn't popular to buy

[@RazgrizAce67]

Someone randomly came up to me at my LGS and offered to trade one booster pack of Commander Masters for the whole UW Spirit precon. I was like, "sure?" Best trade I've ever made.

[@jangolangthespy]

I bought the b/u gisa deck 3 times because I love zombies and I took all them a part for diff zombie commanders

[@IslarfPokemon]

For the EU peoples, Hakbal, Anikthea Hand of Erebos and Commodore Guff are quite cheap on cardmarket if you live in the EU and are a killer decks too!

[@UEENavy]

The virtue and valor enchantment commander deck is ridiculous for a precon. Those roles get out of control so fast and it’s honestly a chore to play against it without a high powered deck made to counter it.

[@Garviel-y8t]

i upgraded it with 60$ worth of cards and its absolutely insane. I recommend calix as a commander this way you either copy all your strong enchantments or you copy enchantments that exile your enemys cards and control the whole board.

[@whoisgev]

thinking of picking up millicent but i also saw blood rites precon and that seems really fun! i'm fairly new so i wanted to see if yall would recommend one over the other

[@johnnoreau3570]

11:39 I personally don’t like epic experiment. Had it in a melek deck. More times than not it’s just a card that sat in my hand.

[@lightmonarch1]

I like the kadena precon. Morph cards are cheap so ya can upgrade for cheap

[@Tramptas2]

Check out the precon Exit from Exile with Faldorn, Dread Wolf Herald. It has some very good and expensive cards like Delayed Blast Fireball and Jeska's Will

[@NitpickingNerds]

Love that precon but was surprised how expensive it was!

[@Tramptas2]

@@NitpickingNerds ​ I love it too, even if there is some wierd cards in it, it does make profit. PS. Also Check out Draconic rage, it has some expensive cards like Klauth, kindred summons, Maddening hex, dragonborn Champion and Druid of Purification.

[@charlied8284]

Coven counters is 19.99 on Amazon and Walmart

[@liljeezyx]

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[@TakaAmun]

I wish I had watched this video last night 🤦‍♂ I am brand new to MtG, played only twice. But Ruthless Regiment was my training deck, and though I enjoyed it, I committed to Fallout Scrappy Survivors and LotR Riders of Rohan. I had Ruthless Regiment in my cart, but given the cost of Fallout (CAD$80) I turfed it, even though RR was the far cheaper option (CAD$45). Spirit Squadron look really interesting, did not pop up on my "research" yesterday, and is only CAD$40. Dang it, guess I'm making another order... 😳

[@NitpickingNerds]

For what it’s worth, the two precons you got are also great! They’re just on the more expensive side, so we left them off

[@TakaAmun]

@@NitpickingNerds Appreciate the feedback, thank you! I'm scouring your vids now for better intel before I impulse buy another deck

[@lorredegezelle3052]

I bought the LOTR Sauron commander deck and i simply can not win with it... Any tips? Or did I just bought an awefull one?

[@khane9996]

You can try it with saruman as a commander instead of sauron, worked much better for me

[@musicmeanslife65]

my bros. Timeless Wisdom from 2020 is still in stock for $49 and it comes with fierce guardianship

[@Garviel-y8t]

the strongest Precons to get going with very cheap Upgrades are Probably Virtue and Valor, Necrons and Ixalan Merfolk. They are WAY stronger than the shown decks. if you put like 60$ into Virtue and Valor, and use calix as a commander, i gets insane. The shown Spirit deck was the first Commander deck ive ever own and its super weak.

[@billyclint2232]

So not magic related but since I see the shadow back there how you feel about Jon wick playing shadow in new movie?

[@NitpickingNerds]

I'm VERY excited ❤️🖤

[@schlars9503]

They should really do another version of those starter commander decks or bring back the "lower quality" commander decks for 19.99$

[@reeceberini1638]

After having acquired the four fallout precons, I can safely say that Caesar and Mothman out of the box work well! I managed to pull a turn 6 win with caeser stock out the box and was able to win a power level 7 lobby with the mothman stock out of the box! I haven’t tried the other two as of yet, but a good friend of mine has won games with the science deck just by switching the commander to Liberty Prime!!

[@maffiatmarcatto367]

Really cool precons, but they are expensive, harder to play and will make you get targeted.

[@TinyLokiGaming]

Only one that hasn't worked for me is the Science! Deck

[@iangamel4809]

Im impressed with myself for half of my commander decks being on this list lol

[@ONKELREY]

Exit from Exile - just a good deck

[@Nelphean]

Turn 1 windfall. Mulligan the mulligans.

[@NitpickingNerds]

That will teach them

[@CuddlyBuns]

Keep propaganda in the Stella Lee deck there's going to be many times when you don't have much of a board state and it's going to be the only thing keeping you alive until you have a really big splashy turn. Especially in your play group after they've seen the deck pop off and know to go after you

[@mysisterfanny]

shame, I can't find Grave Danger anywhere in the UK

[@MrRomanrin]

i HATED THE SPIRIT SQUADRON it was maybe my first precon i didnt like it at all idk why ! hahahah. i stripped off some cards and then put some others and gifted it to a friend xd

[@Bloodfordays]

Downside most of these decks will be hard to obtain since they're older, unless use card kingdom or tcg

[@raiderdevellian5752]

Saying siphon flesh is a terrible card is absolutely mind-blowing to me

[@coryledwitch6492]

MtG Goldfish has Ruthless Regiment at only $62! That’s a bit less than $100.

[@Mushy6005]

Maxfield ad 13:05

[@quality7865]

13:00 - 13:29 is the ad for those of you who don't like being tricked

[@SpencerKing-j2f]

Under an hour club 👇

[@34Vilend]

Yup

[@jwkj100]

60 seconds to spare

[@americanpharoah2277]

Yess

[@GoatlingWilliams]

poop

[@NitpickingNerds]

I was there!

[@Reyman5054]

First time being the first view feels odd

[@NitpickingNerds]

It's quiet here

[@GoatlingWilliams]

poop

[@Timmy_tweaked]

Eldrazi precon is the best to play

[@roryr70]

Not that good

[@thisissostupidqsdfva]

I have sneaking suspicion I've been playing Magic longer than they've been alive

[@SuperBeist]

Eowyn Sheildmaiden is tuffffff

[@pepeflamingo9626]

Zombies are so good

[@NitpickingNerds]

It’s a classic mtg deck!

[@Watsabeholder]

Yo, screw Lenore. The secondary commander, Kyler, is a damn POWERHOUSE. Still, get the deck, but run Kyler.

[@blaze376192]

How is merfolks not on this list?

[@zeff3016]

This list is terrible, idk what they were cooking

[@MrRomanrin]

NOOOOOOOO thats why ruthless got more expensive !!! >:C fuck i wanted to buy it !

[@coolmacmilfpimp3839]

Brothers war precons crush

[@russelravellette6612]

21:37

[@lorenzomarquez9122]

8:37

[@DimirDaddy]

Obligatory 1st

[@NitpickingNerds]

silver medal actually

[@mufasafalldown8401]

820th view! WOOO! I knew it would happen some day!

[@NitpickingNerds]

This has big "I am 329th in line" energy

[@flpn2275]

He bangs for a buck and bucks for a bang

[@Slynch25]

Species specialist should not be 18 dollars, jeez.

[@PapaPurP17]

So. How the hell am I supposed to watch the video you suggested if the link is only up for a fraction of a second? By rewinding and hoping to pause at the perfect time over and over giving your video more watch time? That's shady asf

[@GoatlingWilliams]

poop

[@danbernard1781]

The second I saw the pronouns I unsubscribed. Ridiculous.

[@VinnyBrinea]

I this a joke?