WHICH GAS LAWN MOWERS TO BUY AT HOME DEPOT IN 2024 (And Ones To AVOID)

[@GarageGear]

Here is a link to my TOP PICK GAS POWERED MOWER in this line up! Thank you for supporting the channel! 👍 👉 amzn.to/3TzHGQh (SOLD OUT)

[@Laughinghawg]

@GarageGear Went into HD last Sat to buy $20 worth of rattle can paint, walked out with $549 worth of Honda mower! Wasn't planning on spending $549 on the mower, but been waiting for a year or so trying to get one. This is in the Atl metro area and best I can tell, all the stores around here got an allotment of them. FWIW to your viewers, Best info I have says HD were allotted 1000 units. When I bought mine, they had 915 'available to ship', today 3/27/24 they have 789 'available to ship'. Spoke with Honda, mine has a green dot on the box. They said these units were fixed at the SC plant that used to assemble them. (cam and pressure release valve were replaced if the unit was in the range of serial numbers that were bad)

[@GarageGear]

@@Laughinghawg thanks for sharing this info hawg! But did you get the paint? 👍😂

[@Laughinghawg]

@@GarageGear I did 😁

[@nicholasmeyers3291]

I think I found A Honda Hrn216 local . What is involved with the warranty for the camshaft on this mower ? Will Honda still honor it even tho they stopped producing these ?

[@GarageGear]

@@nicholasmeyers3291 I would watch this video it should explain everything SHOULD YOU BUY A HONDA LAWN MOWER IN 2024? (3 Things To Check) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqe0iaxsbNuesK8

[@Rebel9668]

What I did with my old Murray 20" was when the first wheel broke was go to Ace and get steel rimmed, ball bearing wheels. They were slightly smaller in diameter than the original wheels so when I installed them into the holes on the frame I just lowered the bolts to the bottom holes which made the frame sit higher. Now, if I ever buy another Murray I'll just go ahead and put the steel rimmed wheels from my last mower on it when assembling the mower out of the box.

[@GarageGear]

Good plan rebel! Thank you for sharing!

[@Muksanim2012]

After seeing the poor options in stores and the over priced Honda mowers I decided to build my own from what I had on hand and buying a new powerful engine. I restored a deck, restored a front drive transmission, and installed a new BS 190cc 875 engine. I would have gotten a Honda engine but they were very scarce at the time. This Briggs engine was on Amazon for $250. That plus paint was all my expense. It starts on the first pull every time. I have an old Yardman mower with a Honda engine. The deck has seen better days, but the engine is good. Since I have a 42" tractor, the restored mower is all I need for those tight spots. I also did the same with a 40 year old Husqvarna/Craftsman tiller. Very happy with my choices.

[@GarageGear]

@@Muksanim2012 very cool Muks! Most people would never consider this as an option.

[@dylanconn6079]

The green dot on the honda box means it's been repaired already! Once I found that out I snatched one up

[@GarageGear]

This is an AWESOME TIP! Thanks for sharing this Dylan! 👍👍

[@cwcole]

Bought one last spring and had the cam recall done in the Fall.

[@ES-zw8cb]

I had a conversation with a Home Depot employee about that this weekend, they basically were saying that if a recall is issued that they won't sell it to you at checkout as it should be pulled from inventory. So although the boxes look opened, they are as you said, repaired ones and you could check from the circle dotted sticker and by checking the serial number when you open the machine up with the online recall checker from honda.

[@michaelmactavish4445]

im looking at DR and stihl mowers

[@joemarchand8313]

Was the price the same as a new, non green dot one?

[@fredohnemus7685]

I bought a 22 inch Toro self pace mower the first year they came out. Love the all wheel drive feature. At my age in the seventies, it is a game changer. In all these years, I replaced one wheel and the original cutting blade last year. The wheel was replaced under warrenty. Have never had an isuue with the mower deck clogging itself. I have had clogging at the discharge chute for the rear bagger, when the grass is wet. It needs a bigger opening in my opinion. I would love having the 30 incher, but it's three time the cost of the mower I have. As far as cleaning the mower with the hose attachment, a waste of time. Not worth a darn. Easier to tip the mower and clean it with a jet nozzle on my garden hose, and a 100 percent better job too. If I didn't have my Toro, I'd be paying someone to mow my yard. Don't doubt your opinion on the other mowers, but as for me, Toro all the way.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing that my friend. Glad they have worked out well for you.

[@Esmith93903]

This comment will be all over the place 😂. Found your channel this past winter when my I had an issue with my brand new snow blower burning up the drive belt. Found out they put the pulley on backwards so it wouldn’t spin an burned the belt up. Binge watched all your snow blower guides to make the snow blower last many years to come! Got a free toro 22 inch recycler about 3 years ago when I bought my house always had issues with it starting an needed to spray starting fluid in the air filter to get it going. Did a 50$ tune up off Amazon (spark plug air filter an oil change) an a new blade today. First pull after it was all done today started up no issues. Deffinitly glad I found your channel an your guides! Let the free lawnmower live on!

[@GarageGear]

Awesome esmith! Glad these videos are helping you out! Long live the FREE lawnmower! 👍

[@Gabriel-i1z1z]

Any machine is good as long as maintenance is kept.

[@GarageGear]

@@Gabriel-i1z1z I agree

[@JoshuaOverman]

I thought the Honda mowers was completely gone but I was happy to see they brought them back to my Home Depot this year so I could get another

[@shangrilaladeda]

It’s just old stock, until they release the new models with the updated fixes it’s not worth to buy

[@GarageGear]

I was surprised they had so many left over! Thanks for watching Joshua!

[@philliphall5198]

Just saleing off the left overs is All

[@ald7248]

@@shangrilaladeda There will be no new Honda models. They have exited the USA market.

[@shangrilaladeda]

@@ald7248 no they did not, they came back they also have electric ones

[@RiseT14]

Getting my Honda HRX217HYA this week🙏🏻 thanks for the help!

[@GarageGear]

You got it Rise! Enjoy the mow!

[@shangrilaladeda]

Until Honda comes back, do not buy any lawnmower to send a message to the government we want Honda back and need the healthy competition, American companies are getting too lazy to be considered good anymore, along with most other companies bring back Honda you have a huge platform spread this message

[@GarageGear]

Good message to share! Thanks for watching 👍

[@shangrilaladeda]

@@GarageGear thank you also

[@LL-mt2nz]

Honda still makes lawnmowers. Just not in the US market

[@shangrilaladeda]

@@LL-mt2nz I know that, but I want Honda back in the United States, American companies complained to the government that they can’t match them so the government kicked them out, that is against common business practices, I want the best companies not just from 1 country but the whole world has something to offer that is the best as of now

[@LL-mt2nz]

@@shangrilaladedaMy understanding is that Honda is now using the factory for ATV’s and similar products since they have a higher margin. Honda makes great OPE but I like Toro for mowers and snow blowers and Stihl or Echo for the rest.

[@TheFuersty]

I just bought the Honda HRN216VKA from Home Depot based on your recommendation and it really fitting what I was looking for in a new mower. (And just mowed my 2 lots with it, super happy!) But I will say I filled out the registration and they expressly say that for warranty purposes you do not need to fill out the registration. But along your lines of thinking, if you do register, you will (presumably, if we're being generous) be notified of recalls or issues with the mower / motor. But, even more kudos to Honda. If you don't send in the card, you seemingly get the same warranty as someone that does. Which sounds good to me.

[@GarageGear]

Hey Fuersty! Glad to hear the mower is working out great for you! Can’t go wrong filling out that paperwork. Enjoy the mow my friend!

[@TheFuersty]

@@GarageGear Even though I bought my mower, still watching a ton of your other videos. Thanks for the great, very professional work!

[@GarageGear]

@@TheFuersty you got it my friend! Thanks for being a cool fan!

[@tomacquilano1304]

About a month ago I bought a Toro 22" smart stow. I've used it about 6 times. Now I'm looking to replace it. It cuts or, starts ok, the back wheel only fell of twice and the height adjusters are hard to navigate. What I hate the most is it leaves piles of clippings all over the lawn. When you make a 180 degree turn it leave a larger pile of clippings. I'm cutting normal height grass. I've had lots of different mowers in my 60+ years and this one is garbage. What makes the Honda better? I love Honda products but what makes one mower perform better than others? Does your Honda leave piles of clippings everywhere? Thanks for putting this video together. It made me decide NOT to get the 30" clog master.

[@GarageGear]

Hey Tom check out this video right here SHOULD YOU BUY A HONDA LAWN MOWER IN 2024? (3 Things To Check) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqe0iaxsbNuesK8

[@tomacquilano1304]

@@GarageGear That was the very next video I watched last night! The question is, will it leave piles of clippings everywhere? This mower is for a new property we're renovating. It's a little less than a half acre lot with a small ranch on it so there's a lot of grass. Takes just under an hour to cut with the 22" Toro. My Nextdoor neighbor has the clogmaster and I see lots of grass clumps in his yard. Now I'm looking at larger walk-behind mowers or tractors. Pros and cons with them as well. Thanks for the help!

[@GarageGear]

@@tomacquilano1304 hey Tom. I would not buy a time master but if your lawn is bigger consider a zero turn or tractor to save time. The Hondas I have used do not spit out clippings if you’re cutting at the correct height

[@tomacquilano1304]

@@GarageGear I have used both but I really don’t want to add another piece of equipment to our garage. Maybe I’ll try the Honda! I cut my grass 2 days ago. Wanted to knock it down a little more so I lowered the height 1/2 a setting and cut it the next day. Spit clippings everywhere. The height difference was so minimal it was sometimes hard to tell what was just cut and what needed to be cut. Sorry to drag this out! Thank you!

[@EdsterL]

I have a Honda GVC190 and it's awesome and super reliable. I have a little side hustle and it gets a beating, still excellent. Glad I watch this video because I've been thinking of the Toro 30" a lot, it will come in handy because my little side hustle is growing, but don't want to spend too much like $3K or more just yet for a bigger mower. You mentioned Hobda stopped making it, if they make a bigger one like the Toro 30" I would be the first one in line to buy. That being said the Toro 30" is out for now, thanks for sharing 😅. Going to see your other video on Toro maintenance.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome Ed! Good luck with your side business!

[@rogerclark3]

Great video. I hope your right. One is on the way from HD. Lowes changed their return policy. Apparently effective 4-1-2024, returns for many items must be unused. Otherwise it's a warranty issue. I was reading the policy on their site, and was very confused so called customer service who is also not being very clear but said that's the new policy. So I checked HD, and theirs is the same old return policy so ordered. If it's true, Lowes is in big trouble... I did not get the extended warranty and will be sure to register the mfgr warranty. Thanks.

[@GarageGear]

Appreciate the positive feedback Roger! Thanks for sharing! Enjoy the mow!

[@hraith]

I got the Honda brand new a few months ago. I've done everything from manicured lawns to bushwhacking with it. It is excellent and easy to maintain. I'll have it a long time.

[@GarageGear]

@@hraith awesome my friend! Thanks for sharing

[@JenniLudes]

Love my old Honda Hydrostatic mower I bought 20+ years ago. I've only had 2 issues with it. Broke the pull start recoiler (easy and cheap to replace) and my son...he decided to do me a "favor" and mow my lawn for me. I was changing the oil in it had just drained it and went to take a call. Yep, he ran it without oil. After a lap around the yard, it seized. Fortunately I was able to get her running again. Took out the spark plug, put some 3 in 1 oil (or some sort of penetrating oil...been a while so don't remember which) into the cylinder and let it sit on its side for a couple of days. Then took a wrench to the bolt that holds the blade on the bottom and a 3 foot cheater bar and got it to turn. (this was all under the advice of a local honda shop/dealer). It's run great since and that's been at least 10 years ago. Starts first or second pull every time. I figured the rings would be shot or the cylinder scored but at this point, every year I get at this point is a bonus year!

[@GarageGear]

Wow! What a story! They just keep running apparently lol! Thanks for sharing Jenni

[@POOKIE5592]

JenniLudes Jeff Spicoli once said people on Ludes should not drive mowers.

[@mosesee]

Bro about 4 years ago I bought a Honda lawn mower for around 350-380$ at Walmart self propelled it was red all around and the motor was black and the self propelled handle was black too and had rubber for comfort and it was really fast the machine was light but big the motor on it said Honda please by any chance do you know which it was 😭

[@classicxl]

I’m having a hard time deciding if a cheap lawn mower like a powersmart 21 144cc would be enough for my small yard vs the toro 21445 i just paid for but haven’t pick up yet . the price difference is $288 for powersmart vs $565 for the toro both is before 13% tax . my reason for ordering the toro was long term ownership with things like getting parts vs trying to get parts for a cheap powersmart down the road . being that everything is going battery this might be my last gas powered lawnmower and that’s also why i’m thinking toro but the $316 difference is making me rethink this purchase

[@GarageGear]

I would go the toro route. There are no parts an available anywhere for the PowerSmart mowers and their customer service is terrible!

[@Silverface1987]

Hi JB… here’s one for you. I have a 1992 Honda with the “plastic” deck. Bought it because I would go through mowers because of rust,hence the plastic deck Honda. This mower is INCREDIBLE,so I gave it to my son-in-law and purchased a new Honda from a commercial dealer on County Rd. This time,of course a PLASTIC deck AND KEY start… remember, I’m 30 years older now 😝. Yes,its warranty card was sent in,and I called Honda to make sure they got it… I have an hour meter on it, with 30 hours clocked. All starting by key,not one issue, my question is… does the camshaft problem only appear during PULL start?…. Keep up the great work… I also Crown proof where you do. Go Bills

[@GarageGear]

You might be in the clear. I would say you would already see that happening by now. I think you are all good. Enjoy the mow! Awesome you’re local by the way! Go Bills!

[@nationalwheel1]

If you have the bad camshaft it'll also show with the electric start, you'll get as far as 1/2 turnover, that's it. that's how mine went. At 30 hrs like he said it's probably all good.

[@scottgordin9709]

Good lort, I bought a Murry ten years ago from Wallymart, the cable for the self propelling system broke last year, but it’s a one pull mower, cuts great and gets the job done for my quarter acre yard that’s flat. The only thing I do regret about buying it, is it’s not a bagger.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this Scott! 👍

[@thatsmyrc]

I bought a time master at home depo on a managers special sale. On top of that it was considered used since someone had bought it put gas on it and brought it back. I haggled price down to $575. Aprox 10 yrs give take a yr I still have that mower works like a champ starts on first second pull and zero issues. Just about always bagged but realize it doesn’t like a full bag only aprox half bagger but started this yr to you side discharge

[@thatsmyrc]

Price new at that time was $999

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this rc!

[@bartalgozzini7262]

Got 2 lawn boys. Only mowers I will ever need.

[@GarageGear]

Great mowers!

[@jimc.7121]

To be fair about the Honda (model HRN216VKA - I own this mower, too), there was no camshaft issue. The issue was with the compression release mechanism. It was getting stuck in "run" mode, which means that it was harder to start on affected mowers. Honda replaced the mechanism on affected mowers.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing jim

[@TecumsehRulesbcserk]

Personally I’d recommend a commercial grade mower with a Kawasaki engine if you plan on doing any serious mowing, they’ll hold up a lot better than the Briggs or Honda engines due to being built tougher

[@GarageGear]

💯agree and would love to get my hands on a commercial mower that is newer! Have an awesome weekend BCSERK!

[@scott1564]

This is the way to go if you're looking for a newer, 4 cycle mower. I'll truck along with my 25+ year old Toro Commercial 2-cycle. Started on one pull the other day after sitting for a few months. I still need to do a fuel line and spark plug replacement but hasn't had time. The Gator Blade mulching blade works pretty well on it (not quite as good as a Craftsman mower I had years ago, but well enough). Honestly, the mowers sold today at big box stores -- to me anyway -- are junk. I hope I never have to use one.

[@goochma]

Is there a fix for the cam shaft problem on the Honda? I bought the HRN yesterday and did notice it feels a little crunchy when pulling the pull chord to start it.

[@GarageGear]

@@goochma Honda replaces the camshaft under their warranty.

[@michaeldavis6550]

Please tell me before i unbox my just purchased HRN 216. How do i have trouble free mowing given the known issue of the extremely exposed belt system for the drive & the blades & the hard labor it is to fix. This known issue makes me very worried about keeping this nower. I returned a ariens razor cause of known issues & a Plastic carburetor & i hate to have to return this one as well but i cant afford to have issues with the belts because of a serious design flaw. Whats your best advise please & Thank you.

[@GarageGear]

Hey Michael! I have had mine for 4 years with no issues. People who have belts problems with these are mowing sticks and letting grass clump up bad underneath. Mow your lawn regularly and keep your deck clean and you won’t have any issues 👍

[@michaeldavis6550]

@GarageGear Thank you for your response. I plan on not being easy with the mower cutting up big piles of leaves at customers houses that I blow into the yard & it's always to hard on his Toro lol. That's the part that really makes me think about this being the wright mower with that exposed belt & pully. Like why would they design it like that with no guard around the belt at all for all the debri to be able to get lodged in there. That is how I will be mowing sometimes with this mower so that's what I'm concerned about. After hearing this do you still feal the same about how I plan on using my mower. I just don't want issues like that with the mower

[@GarageGear]

@@michaeldavis6550 that Honda can handle leaves. The bag will fill quick because it’s small. Leaves won’t be a problem. Just avoid sticks and branches.

[@michaeldavis6550]

@GarageGear Thank you sir, I guess I should get it outta the box lol. Found a used Honda HRR in pretty good condition online with bag for $195. If the person would only answer the E Mail I'd jump on it lol.

[@GarageGear]

@@michaeldavis6550 some people are so slow to respond on there!

[@Xennial-en6kb]

I like the Timemaster a lot. Enough to have 2 of them. Bought the first one about 8 years ago, the second 2 years ago. My boys and I run both of them. They do clog but are easy to tilt over and I use a 2” paint scraper to clean it before putting it away. No problems with the cables but I take care of my stuff and always keep them out of the rain. Any cables if left out in the rain will rust the cables in the housing. I will say on the first Timemaster the valve huide came loose but a small engine repair shop was able to fix it. And did replace the transmission but they’re not expensive or hard to change. Only replaced the belts once. Oil level always stays the same, doesn’t burn any oil. The second Timemaster has been flawless. Huge bag, that’s why I bought it. Had a customer who wanted her clippings bagged and put in the flower beds. The Timemaster with the huge bag and not having to restart the engine each time really increased my productivity. The price really has climbed though. Bought my first one for $900 and the second for $1200

[@GarageGear]

@@Xennial-en6kb thanks for sharing this with the community xennial

[@AAa-qd8hb]

Will (Toro part number 144-6377 traction assist handle kit) (for new Toro Time Master mowers) fit on new Toro AWD 21472 mower? Both have same mounting holes and shape.

[@GarageGear]

I’m not exactly sure but if the holes match up I would say yes.

[@NathanKull]

Just picked up the Honda. I've been using a 80v battery mower for the past few years (Kobalt), 2 of my 4 batteries are already shot and the price to replace them is stupid high. I've also always been annoyed by the mower changing speeds based on what it thinks I need to cut, suction on the mower is also meh. Had to get what's left of one of the best gas mowers again before I can't anymore. I really do like many of the benefits of the battery powered mowers, but I'm ok returning to gas for the mower, still have a gas powered snow blower anyway. Will keep my battery-operated trimmers etc though.

[@GarageGear]

That Honda will last much longer! Thanks for sharing Nathan!

[@Vodafone16v]

Hey, I'm thinking of getting a new lawn mower and I'm torn between the Honda HRN and the Dewalt 163cc RWD gas mower. The Dewalt looks better than the Honda, but I can't seem to find any decent reviews on it. Do you have any feedback on either of these mowers? I have a big lawn (over an acre) and I need something heavy-duty that can bag efficiently. I've been looking for a Honda HRX but those are impossible to find!

[@GarageGear]

@@Vodafone16v go Honda my friend! The dewalt is a rebranded MTD lawnmower. Cheaply made and don’t last. You won’t be disappointed with the honda

[@Thomas63r2]

At these prices its better to just keep repairing an old mower when needed. I have a 2010 Bolens 21" side discharge with a 158cc Briggs engine that I mow my 1/2 acre lawn. I work it hard, clean the deck after every use, change the oil once a season. I think I paid $170 when I bought it at Lowes - its a great simple mower.

[@GarageGear]

Good point thomas! Thanks for sharing

[@jaybooth4815]

Wow, I’m surprised the Honda HRN is still available at Home Depot JB. I checked to see if the HRX is available also and was surprised it was. $799 is the price tag on it. Yikes! The price tag on the other mowers are getting crazy expensive. I’d probably bite the bullet and get the Honda. Awesome video as always JB! Have a great weekend my friend! Cheers!

[@GarageGear]

Many people are scarfing them up and buying two. Keeping one in the box in the attic until they need it down the road! I hats going on this weekend Jay?

[@jaybooth4815]

⁠I actually thought about it JB. But if you take care of the you have, by watching your channel, it will last a very long time!! Cheers bud!

[@GarageGear]

@@jaybooth4815 RIGHT ON my friend!

[@JohnNiehaus-iz1fd]

I've owned all the models described including Troy Bilt. OF all the mowers Honda is by far the best. The Troy Bilt is the very basic model but does the job and is easy to maintain. The Toro Personal Pace mower has been the worst. I've always had issues with the drive train going out after the warranty expires. They also had under powered engines (Kohler) that were difficult to start. My neighbor works for Toro and verified this. My Dad taught me, buy the best you can afford. If you can find one, buy a Honda. You won't regret it.

[@GarageGear]

Spot on, my friend! Thanks for sharing your experience

[@martinp.9853]

@GarageGear, I see multiple Honda mowers on the Home Depot website. This one is least expensive. Which one is the one to get? Next one up after $549.99 is $799.99......

[@GarageGear]

Hey Martin! I would probably opt for the 799! Youll get some better features like a slightly bigger engine, rubber tread on the wheels with ball bearings, etc! Great cut too! 👍

[@martinp.9853]

@GarageGear thank you all the way from Chicago, brother!!! I'll opt for the 799.99.

[@GarageGear]

@@martinp.9853 ROCK ON MARTIN!

[@Jennifer-me7mu]

I just bought the Honda today and used it. It started on the 1st try & cut well!

[@GarageGear]

Awesome Jennifer! Enjoy the mow!

[@richardharrison1493]

Prices now days for a gas powered push mower is ridiculous. Last summer Rural King was running a sale on Pulsar 21" 200CC for $100.00. I bought it as I needed something to keep at my mother-in-law's so I didn't have to keep lugging mine over there and local used prices were about the same price. Reviews were very poor for the mower. But $100 new with warranty versus $100 used and no warranty, new won out. This has been one of the best running mowers I have ever own. It starts on the first or second pull every time so far and sips gas. Only issue with it is the flap on the back sometimes goes under the mower when pulling and makes it harder to pull. I may end up taking that off eventually.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this info Richard!

[@PhonePhone-qh6hz]

I use my time master for Commercial work And it only breaks a couple times

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing

[@dustyhammer7569]

Use a Honda to deliver the Rural mail, dependable CRV. For just my yard, have the Toro Turfmaster. The transmission is impressive. My backyard used to take 25 min to do with a Troy-Bilt 21” (it was a good mower, just didn’t like mowing) now it takes like 12 minutes, it’s ridiculous

[@GarageGear]

Wow! Cut your time in half! Thanks for sharing

[@jadd6810]

I love my TimeMaster.

[@mattymatt1984]

I picked up the Honda HRX from HD. Going back to the store. Mulch door doesn’t close flush when in full mulch position. Tons of grass coming out the back in clumps. Huge QC issue on Honda’s part. Dissapointed…

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing

[@notsure2024]

The Murray use blade that oval tab on it hard to find and if you hit something it will mess up the blade adapter

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing

[@rkt88403]

I bought the grey Murray push mulch/side discharge that is not shown here for $200 on clearance at my local Home Depot last week.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing rkt

[@Deefoz]

I went to a liquidator and got a NOS super recycler from 2019.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome deal! 👍

[@jc716-1]

JB - I am a new homeowner (also from the Buffalo area) and am trying to figure out how to setup my garage. Can you make a video touring your garage setup?

[@GarageGear]

Awesome Joe! Congrats on the new house! Many have been asking about this! Perhaps this could be a video coming up! Stay tuned!

[@bunberrier]

I bought a toro recycler from my neighbor, still works well 10 years later, but the deck rusted out so bad the motor is about to fall out

[@GarageGear]

@@bunberrier could always buy another used one and transplant the engine if you wanted

[@bunberrier]

​@@GarageGear After I posted that I found out I can buy a new deck for 160 from Toro. Their local dealer will drop it off at my house for free. So I did that. Only took about 20 min to unbolt everything from the old one.

[@GarageGear]

@@bunberrier nice! That worked out well!

[@lancecourtney6737]

I don’t see a video on battery powered lawn motor.

[@GarageGear]

Hey lance! I don’t do battery stuff. Did a few in the past and viewers didn’t care to see them.

[@camerontyson5347]

Just purchased my first Honda! Hopefully it will last. Had toro Briggs and Stratton. It lasted a season before replacing the carb. Even using fuel treatment while sitting. My wife was cutting the grass ran it dry now it won’t start. I think the carb needs to be cleaned. I said screw it rather just invest in something that last and I heard Honda was the best! Also realized every Briggs and Stratton engines on push mowers are pretty much the same and have issues with the plastic carbs.

[@GarageGear]

Yep briggs makes them pretty cheap nowadays!

[@nateh.4414]

Get a can of carb cleaner. Remove the air filter and spray into the throttle plate and any small jets you can see. A lot of the time this will get it going again. I always have a can of carb cleaner on hand for this. Even my honda has done it. I haven't had to take the carb off yet to clean.

[@GarageGear]

@@nateh.4414 that’s a great idea. Thanks for sharing.

[@camerontyson5347]

@@nateh.4414 yea I tried that with carb cleaner, starting fluid , or break cleaner whichever I find lying around first. Runs for second then dies. The new mower I’ll run non ethanol and drain when the season ends which unfortunately is only like month from now because it gets stupid hot in Texas with no rain for 4 months weather is like 105-110 when I go to bed and 98 when I wake up. I definitely don’t take care of the yard during the summer and fall because everything is dead lol

[@nateh.4414]

@camerontyson5347 I know how it is man. I'm in Houston and summer sucks. My hrn216 acted up after a couple mows, brand new. This got me going again and has anytime it's been fussy. These jets in the carbs are so small, anything will clog them. I add startron to my fuel can. It keeps things running pretty smooth.

[@brandongallahan5537]

Thanks for the info! I’m in need of a new mower and I’m leaning towards a super recycler. I’ve watched all your videos on the 190cc model. Not sure in the differences between the others. Lowes has 2 163cc models. One is 799$ and the other 999$. The 190cc is 850$ but it’s not available online. Any tips and which you one you think is best?

[@GarageGear]

I had the 190cc last year. Cut and ran great! Only major thing with the super recyclers is they have issues backing up. The rear wheels lock up. This is common on all super recycler models.

[@smallblock412]

Even with the cam problems, the Honda is the only one worth buying in my opinion. Forgot about the Toro Crapmaster 😂

[@GarageGear]

Hahaha I forgot about that one Smallblock!! It truly is a big pile of crap. They sell for an absolute fortune though! Made money on mine when I sold it. Any plans for your Sunday?

[@smallblock412]

@@GarageGear grocery shopping, yay

[@GarageGear]

@@smallblock412 mans gotta eat right?!

[@smallblock412]

@@GarageGear After snowblowing, eating is my next favorite thing. 🤣

[@GarageGear]

@@smallblock412 you and I are cut from the same cloth!

[@dave8115]

Does anyone know if the recalled units that HD is selling were actually repaired by Honda? My understanding is that the camshaft fix involved a pretty significant teardown, and at least in some cases, the Honda dealers were repairing their own stock (rather than the manufacturer). Makes me a little nervous buying a machine not knowing who fixed all of the HD inventory that was pulled from the shelf.

[@GarageGear]

Here’s your answer kzbin.infoxLxjudDQ54Q?si=qcahLznYjGa_EVTt

[@dave8115]

@@GarageGear Thanks for the reply! My question is whether the manufacturer itself repaired the machines with the green dots, or whether an authorized reseller would have done the work? The repair involves a complete teardown of the engine which seems risky depending on who did the work. Appreciate any insights you have. We may not know the answer in the end, but I am wondering if it is safer to buy a machine from a local authorized dealer. The local dealer near me says that their mechanics did the camshaft repair to the units they had in stock already. They did not send any units back to Honda for repair.

[@GarageGear]

@@dave8115 hey Dave I believe these cam direct from the manufacture with the repair and labeled as such. If you trust your local mechanics I would go for it and buy it from them. 👍

[@jasonbrueggeman4364]

I’m in the market for a larger push mower that 30” range. Don’t really want a rider if you don’t recommend the timemaster there’s not many options out there for a residential homeowner. Any suggestions?

[@GarageGear]

There is a craftsman/cubcadet 30 model but that model is very much the same as the timemaster. Scag and Ferris make 30 inch mowers but the prices are sky high. Selection is limited

[@thomasarloszynski8198]

If I buy a big box store Toro and it is stored on its side, will that harm the mower

[@thomasarloszynski8198]

Please FYI

[@GarageGear]

Hey Thomas I just responded to this comment on an another platform. Did you open it? If so and it’s running fine you should be good. If not return it.

[@Corporal_D]

Just bought the Honda HRX217VKA from HD online yesterday, delivered today. Looking forward to unboxing and setup, been on a rider for over 20 years bought a zero turn last year but still wanted a Honda before they were all gone. Could’ve had it for a few hundred less several years ago but everything costs more now. If you want quality you can’t go cheap.

[@GarageGear]

Spot on my friend! You’ll wonder why you didn’t get it sooner once you start using it. Thanks for watching

[@danielwillliams9669]

Another great video. Thanks - got me binge watching.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome Daniel! 👍

[@alexroski8454]

I work at a Kubota dealership were I work on Honda power equipment. I will say the HRN mowers are nice but do have a couple of issues I have seen when working on them. #1 the valve cover, for some reason Honda put a thin layer of Honda bond from the factory so I see these valve covers leak badly sometimes not even a year old. #2 the drive belt system is not well protected so I see a lot of things get stuck up and around the transmission pulley and the self propelled quits working. #3 the transmission cable is thin and breaks often. Overall it’s a real nice mower with a couple of minor gripes from the mechanical side of things, They are great mowers I highly recommend them!

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this information to the Garage Gear community. Much appreciated.

[@johnnytopside3702]

In your videos where you say ethanol free gas do you mean use premium gas?

[@GarageGear]

Premium and ethanol free are two different things. I would look at the pump and it should say ethanol free. It might be a higher octane.

[@jpconard]

I bought Toro RWD not personal pace for $399 at Lowes. First use, would bind up when pulling backwards. Returned and got Toro FWD for $459, also 22" deck and stow and go. Haven't used it yet, still in box.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing Jp

[@donaldbracciano832]

Front wheel drives have issues too. They are heavy in front and hard on the handle as the handle is not built heavy enough for the extra weight and can break.

[@Riighthandtrucking]

I had a Craftsman lawn mower the 6.5 and I had that since 04 05 I believe and still running strong the string broke on the cold start but now I needed a self-propelled

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing! Did you fix the rope

[@Riighthandtrucking]

@@GarageGear nope I just order a new mower lol

[@R_Escobar_13]

It's time for me to buy a new lawn mower what is your suggestion that I should get for a yard thats about 1/4 acre. I'm looking to stay around $1,000 or under if possible

[@GarageGear]

@@R_Escobar_13 grab a Honda before they are gone. Hrx or hrn 👍

[@R_Escobar_13]

@@GarageGear i see home depot has some I can order

[@ed0c]

what about dewalt gas mowers? they use the 163cc brig straton motor

[@GarageGear]

I know the battery ones are junk with shallow decks. Poor for mulching. They’re relatively new to mowers. I would stick with a know mower brand.

[@mx-racer88]

I agree with you recommending always using non ethanol fuel. The problem is all the pumps are now blender pumps multiple fuels one hose. According to the American Motorcyclist Association you have to pump a least four gallons of fuel to clear the line from what what pumped before to hope to get good fuel and that's if you can even find a station selling non ethanol.

[@GarageGear]

Yeah, that might be the problem in some cases. Sometimes you can find at a single pump. Hope you some place near you that has it.

[@peterkalleeny8104]

Love your videos..love Hondas to..after Hondas what other gas mower do you recommend?

[@GarageGear]

@@peterkalleeny8104 hey Peter! I like older models that were built better. And if you want anything decent nowadays you’ll have to go commercial grade. Things are built so cheap nowadays. Thanks for being a cool fan!

[@chrisparman2080]

Hey Garage Gear guy. I'm going to Nit-pick you :) The underside picture (at approximately the 2:32 minute mark) shows a Honda model with the Roto-Stop drive/clutch, it's not of the HRN216VKA model. Just saying :)

[@GarageGear]

Hey Chris it still has the dual blade design I was going for

[@warpig372]

I switched over from a Craftsman to Honda almost 8 years ago. I wish Honda still made Lawn Mowers. It was by far the best mower i ever owned.

[@GarageGear]

Great mowers! 👍

[@chadialhajkadour7198]

Hi JB, Someone in my neighborhood has a Honda HS55 snowblower for free (needs some repairs), I'm thinking about getting it and learn my way around the thing, before I mess with my brand new Ariens 😅 Am I making any sense?

[@GarageGear]

Yeah, why not. Have some fun with it!

[@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix]

Whats crazy is how expensive the most basic mower is. I remember just a few years ago you could get a cheap basic gas mower for $100. Now theyre $300. At that price its worth it to spend a pther $100-150 and get a Honda.

[@GarageGear]

@@Jackmerius_Tacktheretrix inflation nowadays is unreal

[@erinm9534]

I recommend weedeater branded push they are out of business now but they used to sell at Walmart and home depot for a very low price and would last 20 years

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing

[@MrMattDat]

Another great video. Very comprehensive and a great recommendation. Time for me to pick up a used HRN!

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for watching Matt! I see them pop up on marketplace all the time for a couple hundred bucks! 👍

[@steveybiggunzgaming8118]

My Home Depot has gas dewalt mowers too

[@GarageGear]

Good to know. I’m in NY they are trying to go all electric..

[@angelicaconiguliaro3179]

Thank you JB! I'll go with the honda. Can you do a Tractor Supply or Ace Hardware video as well? If the box is damaged just ask the manager or customer service and you can get 10-40% off. Insider tip if you find the same product at another retailer for less they will match it plus give you another 10% off.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing this information. I’ll look into that and will also look into TS and AH for future vids.

[@dianecollins2699]

Just bought the Honda today. Very excited to use it!

[@GarageGear]

@@dianecollins2699 can’t go wrong with it!

[@appleztooranges]

**Is it me or does Honda mowers(newer version) not start first pull. Talked to a bunch of people and they say it too!

[@GarageGear]

Could be a change in the engine design!

[@appleztooranges]

@@GarageGear I changed the thermowax and looked at the carb. No didference. It’s a Honda thing. No more first pull it seems

[@nickjaroma]

Just bought the Honda last week! Thanks for the advice

[@GarageGear]

Awesome Nick enjoy the mow!

[@Robert-ug5hx]

I am glad aI bought two honda HRX2176HZA, one is in the box atill. The recall cam was easy with my lical dealer ,they out the spare mower baxk in its box after they finished

[@GarageGear]

Wow that’s awesome! Thanks for sharing Robert!

[@elebeu]

I remember being able to by Murray mowers at Walmart for $99.

[@GarageGear]

Times are a changing!

[@MrAlternation]

Great information, thank you

[@GarageGear]

@@MrAlternation thanks for watching mralternation!

[@fergusonto-2032]

Are the Murray riding mowers at Home Depot any good ?

[@GarageGear]

For a basic homeowner with a relatively flat lawn they should be fine.

[@doobielawson702]

I have a Craftsman mower with the Briggs 6.5hp engine. Bought it from Sears 20 years ago. Still starts 1st or 2nd pull. Change the oil and keep it out of the sun when storing it. Those two things go a long way. Paint still looks fresh, no rust.

[@GarageGear]

Awesome doobie! Thanks for sharing

[@clg_pro2009]

I have one as well for 17 years now. never changed or checked oil. bags slightly ripped and pull cord is bout 2 ft shorter and its hard to crank now lol.. when started up it runs solid still

[@stonz42]

I’ve been using a 25 year old craftsman mower with a 6.75 HP Tecumseh engine until last weekend. It died after an hour and will not restart no matter what I try so it’s time for a new one unfortunately. I’m considering scooping up one of the remaining Honda 216 models or a Toro front wheel drive without that dumb personal pace system. I have an old Honda non self propelled as a back up and it’s great but I’m afraid to buy a new one now that they’re no longer making mowers…major bummer.

[@ald7248]

I had a Weedeater 22" purchased in 2002 with that engine that finally died last month. My father ran that mower on E15 (!) for the first 19 years of its life and never did any maintenance on it apart from changing the oil. Those engines were *tough*.

[@prm5798]

I just ordered a HRX217 from HD today, this mower shouldn’t be affected by the recall correct?

[@GarageGear]

If you watch this video you’ll be able to tell! SHOULD YOU BUY A HONDA LAWN MOWER IN 2024? (3 Things To Check) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pqe0iaxsbNuesK8

[@prm5798]

@@GarageGear I did see your video, I’m just getting one shipped to me. I’ll check it when I get it.

[@gregoryeditor6500]

I was at ACE yesterday and looking at a EGO Lawn Mower with 2 batteris for 500 + dollers Toro no longers makes the power reverce one. Will you ever do a review of Ego Lawn Movers?

[@GarageGear]

Hey Gregory did some battery content last year and none of the videos did well in terms of views. And when a lot of time and energy goes into those videos that’s not a good thing. Many of the subscribers like to see gas related products. I’m not a fan of them either from the way they are developed all the way to how they perform. Thanks for watching bud!

[@gregoryeditor6500]

Thanks for the info I am thinking of buying the $459 Toro with front wheel dive will that be easy fo me to back up and tuurn around?@@GarageGear

[@GarageGear]

@@gregoryeditor6500 that mower should work just fine for you! The rear wheel drive super recyclers have issues backing up. You’re in the clear! 👍

[@gregoryeditor6500]

If you were my neighbor I would give you my 16+ year old Super Recycler when I do buy it.

[@GarageGear]

@@gregoryeditor6500 appreciate you Gregory! 👍

[@tempusveritas8901]

Thanks JB My Lawn Boy Dura force is still running.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for watching Tempus! Keep her that way 👍

[@landcruiser7936]

My craftsman with a Honda engine has served me well for 20 years. I plan on buying a Honda before they are gone but will keep the old girl as a backup

[@GarageGear]

Good plan!

[@DavidGomez-ws5br]

I tried hard to buy a Honda lawn mower in 2023 Aug through Nov and couldn't get one. Even when they had them in stock they were not allowed to sell them. Something is wrong with NEW Honda lawn mowers. This video says to fill out the warranty because you will need it more than you will use the lawn mower to cut grass on your lawn. I have never heard of a company stopping sales of a product when its on hand to sell. I even contacted Honda factory and I was told there was something wrong with the lawn mowers that could not be repaired due to covid and not having enough workers to repair the lawn mowers. With that being said these lawn mowers are defective. Do Not buy them. I hope this helps. I endure up buying a Toro for 900 dls (super recycler) with an electric ignition and I think a 163 cc gas motor. It works well, the only issue was I had to order it online since it is not carried instore. It is shipped straight from the factory to your home. It took about 1 week for delivery. Its March 2024 and the spring just started in Texas and no problems the lawn mower started with bo issues. I highly recommend it. Please note this channel recommend ed it in another video and that is why I purchased this specific lawn mower. This channel helped me made my choice on was was available in Nov 2023 due to my new home in July 2023. So I ended up using it in Nov for 2 or 3 times before it was stored for winter. Also, ensure you do an oil change before your first grass cut. This channel recommend it and that is what I did. I filled the lawn mower with new oil out of the box then ran it for 30 minutes, then did an oil change. So you must order the necessary oil si than when the lawn mower arrives you are ready to do the oil change. Again Do Not buy Honda lawn mowers something is wrong with them.

[@DKLabs99]

I bought one in 2016 and not a single issue

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing

[@johnmartin5153]

Do you know if the depot Honda boxes have the green sticker on them? Also where do you get the ethanol free gas?

[@GarageGear]

All the boxes at my local Home Depot have the green dots. A lot of gas stations have ethanol free fuel. Usually it’s on a separate pump. If you search ethanol free near me you can usually find a pump nearby!

[@johnmartin5153]

@@GarageGear awesome thanks for the info ! I think I’ll try to get a green sticker Honda.

[@GarageGear]

@@johnmartin5153 oh yeah! You won’t be disappointed

[@johnmartin5153]

@@GarageGear cool thanks again man ! I’ll check back in in a few months and let you know what I think 🤔

[@apexiumim2741]

Couple of great vids in less than a week… well done JB! Prices are absolutely crazy, I’m torn between selling my 3 times used Toro Super Recycler I bought last year and paying a higher price for a new Honda… or just keep this and live with the quirks it has. The Toro cut, bag, no deck clog and startup is really good. Just wondering if it’ll last. Have a good one JB… I’m off to continue the 3000sq’ fenced area for my bitches.. err.. chickens. Lol

[@GarageGear]

Hey Apex these prices are nuts! It’s been a very busy week filming and editing let me tell ya! You got some things to think about! Good luck with your chickens!

[@cwcobo]

Good video with good info. Many of the others are extremely thin in useful info, some are just a video of a guy using the mower.

[@GarageGear]

I keep it real around here CW! Thanks for watching!

[@johnkirkland7465]

Depot doesn’t stock the HRX series locally. Any chance you would know if I order one from HD that it would be shipped from their warehouse with an open recall? Thank you!

[@GarageGear]

Not exactly sure my friend! Did you call Home Depot about this?

[@johnpatterson7522]

I just bought Toro 163cc, 22". I have had Honda up to this point but the Honda recall and news Honda was discontinuing production of walk-behind mowers made me consider Toro with Vortex technology.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing John

[@terrymaloney3973]

How long have the duel blades been around?

[@GarageGear]

On the Honda for many years now. Cuts great!

[@halseydan]

What is you thoughts on that areins razor ? I'm considering getting one.

[@GarageGear]

Full review coming out this weekend!

[@Vtrx_Raul_]

Any dewalt gas mower reviews coming up??

[@GarageGear]

@@Vtrx_Raul_ perhaps next season. We’re getting on to leaf blowers soon. I can tell you this. Those mowers may say dewalt on them but they are made by MTD and rebranded like a lot of others. 👎

[@Gillysaurxx]

That same Honda is $549 at my local Hone Depot. Crazy!

[@GarageGear]

They were $400 3 years ago.

[@The_Mace]

Two big-box stores down, how many to go? Menards should be good for a few laughs... 🤣 Also, this is why I prefer used mowers, particularly older ones. Better quality for less money.

[@GarageGear]

Unfortunately I don’t have a Menards near me. I do have an ace hardware though! Perhaps I could see what’s happening there! 🤔 as for funny things happening I really gotta leave my camera on all the time because at both lowes and Home Depot a manager came up to me and asked what I was doing. Both were kind enough to let me keep going. Perhaps I should interview their RYOBI sales reps. Could be fun?! Have a good weekend bud!

[@The_Mace]

@@GarageGear There's always Wal Mart! 🤣

[@GarageGear]

@@The_Mace that would be a good one lol! Tons a of memes to throw in that video! Too many even!

[@wacobob56dad]

I have a Troybilt with the Honda motor. Best mower I ever bought. Troybilt changed motors. Why ?.

[@GarageGear]

Hey Waco! It all comes down to manufacturers and what they have available to them.

[@charlieh5567]

Toro time master at my local tractor supply was $1,000 last year. This year it’s $1,599.

[@GarageGear]

Unreal! These prices are insane! Thanks for sharing Charlie

[@jameskennedy673]

Those mowers with the B & S motor, you better get the warranty papers filled out ASAP also, bad motors on some.I haven’t bought a new push mower for about 10 years

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for watching! Yes, Idk share in the video that warranty paperwork should be submitted right away.

[@brucedale4465]

Yep I heard that the new Briggs and Stratton engines are just junk 🤷🏻‍♂️😂🤷🏻‍♂️

[@MudMonsterRacing4]

When are you gonna review the new Ariens push mower? Really intrigued by them.

[@GarageGear]

Videos coming soon. Couple of weeks out! 👍

[@MudMonsterRacing4]

@GarageGear ahhh looked at one. Don't even need a review. The plastic adjuster tabs at the front wheels tell me all I need to know. Cmon Ariens do better!

[@GarageGear]

@@MudMonsterRacing4 I agree they could do better!

[@BlowmoldGuy123]

A few months ago honda did a recall for 400000 lawnmowers for an engine defect.

[@GarageGear]

Yep people were popping rotator cuffs.

[@garyalensr]

There is a huge recall on the Honda mower. Something lik400 thousand mowers recalled. If you register it Honda takes care of repair. Honda equipment is a fantastic product line!! Its a shame they stopped the gas power mower. I really enjoy your content JB, keep up the great stuff

[@GarageGear]

Yeah, I’m glad they figured it out. I appreciate you watching, my friend. Stay tuned for more vids.

[@Salmonsqueezer]

The SN I checked at Home Depot were outside the recall.

[@BigDaddysGarage]

I really want one of those Hondas!

[@GarageGear]

You can knab a used one for a couple hundred! See them all the time on marketplace!

[@simmonsburner]

You should do a “Which Lawn Mowers should you buy” at Menards or fleet farm if you have those near you

[@GarageGear]

Unfortunately I don’t have those stores near me and went to tractor supply but they only had one gas mower out!

[@wolfpacva]

I like my Yard Max push mower i bought from Home Depot for $269.00 21" cut 3 in 1 side, mulch, bag.

[@GarageGear]

Thanks for sharing wolf!