What Kind Of Lawn Mower Should You Buy? Full Review Of The Top Brands, Styles & Models Sold

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We show our favorite push mower and self propelled models/styles and engine across most brands and manufacturers.
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My name is Martin. I have been repairing tools and small engines for almost 20 years. We operate a small engine repair shop in Illinois. We service / repair Briggs & Stratton, Kohler, Kawasaki, John Deere, Cub Cadet, Toro Tecumseh, Loncin, Honda, Craftsman, Husqvarna, MTD, Troy Bilt, Simplicity, John Deere, Exmark, LCT, Generac and many more brands. We work on riding mowers, walk behind mowers, snow blowers, zero turns, generators, pressure washers and much more. We normally repair about 3,000 pieces of equipment every year and look at many more that are beyond an affordable repair. Hopefully our videos will save you some money and give you the information you need to work on your own equipment or figure out the issue at hand.
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[@jayytee8062]

At this point i might revert back to my sickle. I can't trust anything new.

[@IndRepair]

For sure. Deception is everywhere!

[@kellismith4329]

The 40 yr old lawnboys just keep chuggin

[@IndRepair]

Yes, they sure do!

[@benyosep5640]

I hate all the KZbin reviews with the damn affiliate links!

[@IndRepair]

@@benyosep5640 Some are authentic, but most are obviously biased in the direction of money in the pocket

[@kipb2078]

I’ll vouch for my Toro Super Recycler, B&S, black bag, blade brake, model 20373, 14 years now and rock solid.

[@IndRepair]

Absolutely a solid machine. Service it and take care an you will get another 14

[@jdub976]

I always hear people say no to those Kohlers but I have had 1 for about 15 years and the thing runs like the day I bought it. Don't know if I was lucky cause I know a shop like yours sees everything but personally I could not be happier with mine. I had a Briggs that wore out piston rings in 2 seasons and that was the last one I ever bought. Thanks for the review of these units.

[@IndRepair]

Interesting! You keep it serviced and use ethanol free fuel? Don't hear that one often!

[@jdub976]

@@IndRepair Just the basics. I use pump gas during the running months and ethanol free for winter storage but like you stated and the more I read I'm stating to think I have just been really lucky cause no one I see has much positive to say lol Maybe the basics is more than most. Thanks for the video.

[@IndRepair]

@@jdub976 Yeah for sure! Basics is more than most but even those that take care of them seem to have issues. I saw it myself with mine

[@dirtriderkx500]

Great video Matt. Keep them coming. 👍👍

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for watching!

[@BlueAlgon]

Thanks for the video and tips. Helpful

[@IndRepair]

Glad to help!

[@Dorado1997]

Good overview of the walk behind mowers. You even covered the Husqvarna line! Great video.

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for watching! I appreciate that

[@riceburner4747]

Great analysis! I own a HRR216 Honda that's 3 years old now & love it. Of course, I do proper maintenance bc I'm mechanically inclined being a senior.👍🖖

[@IndRepair]

Thank you! So much of mower longevity is maintenace, especially with the junk they are selling now

[@kencurtis228]

TY for Sharing

[@IndRepair]

I appreciate you watching Ken!

[@jammosu6498]

I have had Toros forever. My latest is 15 years old. It’s a Personal Pace with a Briggs and Stratton engine. I’ve had to replace the tires and that’s it. Basic maintenance has helped. Change oil, spark plug, and air filter yearly for my 4000 sq ft. Yard.

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for sharing, that is our experience with them also. Great machine!

[@dobermanpac1064]

After 2 Honda’s I’m extremely disappointed they have discontinued production. They are expensive but I have the best lawn on the street.

[@IndRepair]

They definitely cut amazing!

[@sharonmenzel7791]

I have a husqvarna sel -propelled mower with a Honda engine on it. I bought it at Lowe’s around 2019 and I love it. After I mow I wipe it down with car cleaners so it shines, and I do the under wash every time I’m done too. I change my oil, plugs and filter. It takes me about 4 hrs to do my lawn, due to a hill I can’t drive a big mower and I had people mow but they walked my lawn and I had to have it re-sodded. I don’t know what we’re going to do now that Honda is gone, and there doing away with gas mowers

[@IndRepair]

@@sharonmenzel7791 I definitely agree there! We will be trying to keep the Honda's being sold today running for 20 years like many of them have lasted until now

[@cecilmize1]

I have an EGO and I am on my 3rd season with it. I love it. I also have their string trimmer and 16” chainsaw that is 40cc equivalent.

[@IndRepair]

Awesome!

[@mattweeks2272]

Great and informative video. I will say, I personally hunt for those old ayp craftsman’s with the tecumseh engines. They maybe old, but those engines just like to go as long as the carburetor is good. I wouldn’t recommend them to anyone else going used; but I can service them myself and have acquired enough NOS parts to keep them around for years to come.

[@mattweeks2272]

Another little tidbit on those ayp craftsman’s, a lot of them have ball bearing wheels. Important to keep in mind if you own one and need to replace a wheel

[@IndRepair]

If you can keep it going definitely a great idea!

[@dr.flinch6745]

Just met this guy at his shop today, super nice dude, sold me a hell of a fuckin mower for the low!!!

[@IndRepair]

Nice to meet you! 😊

[@dr.flinch6745]

@@IndRepair hell yeah brother, come to my coffee shop some time, balanced brews , Leroy Illinois.

[@IndRepair]

@@dr.flinch6745 I don't get over that way often but next time I do I will come by

[@dr.flinch6745]

@@IndRepair sounds good bud, do you sharpen mower blades there?

[@IndRepair]

@@dr.flinch6745 We sure do!

[@robroberton2667]

Great advice! I have a 19” Toro with an aluminum deck. I’ve replaced the old Tecumseh with a Chinese engine but the Toro parts are still as good as new after 33 years. My neighbor has a 2 cycle aluminum deck Lawnboy also over 30 years old. That old aluminum deck equipment was the best!!

[@IndRepair]

Definitely! Thanks for sharing, that Is awesome!

[@robertblacksmith4355]

I have 3 19" Toros 79' & 1980 with Tecumseh motors 1 needs a new motor which Chinese engine fits? Vertical shaft.

[@IndRepair]

@@robertblacksmith4355 Depends on the model but there are quite a few out there that have the same shaft size. 25mm vs 1" on some

[@anthonyhawkins3576]

It seems odd to me that there are very few brands that have fuel shutoff. I've watched a lot of videos of repairs of small engines, and it always seems that the carburetors are gummed up. I always turn the fuel off on my Honda, and let it run out of gas before putting it up.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely a strange thing for us too, only makes sense if you don't care much about the equipment your selling

[@thomasozemko5024]

Great advice and thoroughness across the product lines for the Toro and engine you recommend from Briggs & Stratton what series is that the 625 725? I will keep an eye out for the one with the blue filter DeWalt has introduced this year a very interesting 163 cc engine rear wheel drive mower which I know is MTD branded wondering if that is better the reviews initially seemed good

[@IndRepair]

They made this style under a lot of different model names. The Dewalt is the same as all the other cheaper MTD models and has the cheaper Briggs engine on it. We had one in recently. The drivetrain did look like a different design to me but I didn't work on it so not positive

[@REGULATORS7676]

I've bought a used toro self drive twice now over the last 10 years, they last a long time, I'm not a fan of the personal pace system on the newer ones, the plastic carbs are different and from what I see with those is you have to make the hole bigger when it gets clogged up after a few years, idk. I Def don't want a electric mower but pretty soon they will be all you can get I'm sure. Great video

[@IndRepair]

My go to, the Personal Pace are so hard for people to start until they get the form down since you are constantly working against the self propelled with the way most people start them. Thanks for sharing

[@joelgrigsby96]

I got lucky with my old Lawn-Boy Insight. I bought it used 8 years ago and, other than basic maintainance and cleaning the carb, it's been perfectly reliable. The Tecumseh engine has plenty of power but I do worry about parts availability though.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely a good engine just carburetor issues but proven to last. Ethanol free fuel solves most of these

[@user-se6oh6dc7q]

I bought a 1984 782 d diesel cub cadet mower one of the best mower out here I also bought a cub cadet push mower self propelled a great mower also

[@IndRepair]

The cub cadet has the same design as the one Troy Bilt in the video I believe. Not a bad engine, drive train and body not great but they will work well if you take care of them. Definitely use ethanol free fuel

[@fartsackjack7081]

WHOS NEW EXMARK COMERCIAL ...TIMS ? SWEET LOOKIN UNIT !!! GREAT VIDEO CHIEF !!!

[@IndRepair]

Nice one isn't it! Always got something from someone. Think it might have been

[@billyjack8081]

What do you think of Scag 21 inch SFC mowers, they seem to be built like a tank and they have either a Kohler or Honda engine on them if I recall correctly. Also, considering an Exmark 21 inch. I have roughly 2/3 of an acre, and then also help out a couple other neighbors. Awesome video thanks for the information!

[@IndRepair]

To me the body seems quite a bit weaker than the Exmark but overall a good design. I believe their standard is a Kohler commercial engine on them but they may have different options. I have seen many of the commercial brands offer something similar. If it was me I would go with the Kawasaki since it has the full pressure lube and oil filter but there are many similar brands. Stihl is making one that I was very impressed with also

[@steveriggenbach90]

A LOT of great information. Need to watch several times to get all info.

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for watching Steve!

[@everss02]

I have the newest Honda HRZ hydrostatic , zero regrets, it's amazing. You do need to change the hydrostatic oil though. I mow twice a week for like 6 months of the year , 9k sq ft of lawn.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely agree there!

[@kirkthebeerslinger]

Good information - especially for someone just starting out. If i can add a few thoughts...if your lawn is anything more than 45'x100' get yourself a self propelled unit. I personally would never use front wheel drive - only if you have very flat terrain - as a bag fills up - front drive lose traction - rear drive gets more traction. Home owner with more money to spend - newer Toro SR4...on a budget older Super Recycler with Briggs and Stratton GTS engine (watch for oil blow by - a little on cold start ok... better to have none)...I don't like personal pace - but it is what it is it's ok... Commercial operators - money is no object wide area walo behind get a Skag or a Ferris... definitely take this man's advice DO NOT BUY 30" Timemaster... cumbersome and awkward and problems galore...if you can afford an Exmark/Toro Commercial with a Kawasaki 180cc go for it...heavy...get blade brake clutch - one of the benefits of these machines...if you are on a budget or like me 15-20lbs makes a difference...if you can find them in good condition - John Deere 14SB/JX75 with Kawasaki 150cc engines...I love these mowers and choose them over Exmark/Toro commercial...parts can be getting scarce - beware...wheels are weakest component IMHO...you best be a tinkerer and self maintain/repair person if you go with old 14SB/JX75's...but you can often oick them up for little $...I haven't paid more than $200CAD and as little as $0 to $50 for them...these mowers were built to last and give an excellent cut quality - especially if bagging...they have mulch plugs and side discharge adapters available...As a final thought - Craftsman, Columbia, Troybilt, MTD, Husqvarna, yardworks etc etc...don't buy new...only buy used if it is a cottage/RV mower or small city lot... don't spend much (less than $100) and DO buy iver anything battery powered - they will last you longer and can be repaired or tossed because you have minimal invested...batteries are too expensive and don't last and aren't really repairable - usually narrower because they spin smaller and lighter duty blades...plastic...finally-yes i know I didn't mention Honda mowers or engines - personal preference... don't care for them and i mow for a living...others live them...cheers! Happy mowing!

[@IndRepair]

All great information I agree with. I do love a Honda mower though, but I do not mow with them though. Loved the John Deere mowers but they are like others and getting too expensive/scarce for parts. They make many good units with the Kawasaki engine that are beefy like this Exmark (the John Deere mowers rather heavy also). I like the Personal Pace but it takes a little more of a form to start it otherwise you are working against the self propel. It really is too bad you have to spend so much money up front to avoid buying something that will break down very soon/often. Thanks for watching!

[@GunnyPhillips]

I'm a homeowner but have a large lawn. You're spot on regarding the Timemaster. I've owned mine for about 7 years and have repaired it more times than I care to admit. Complete garbage. Wish I'd known better before inviting the "Time Disaster" into my garage.

[@IndRepair]

Absolutely! Thanks for sharing!

[@ViralHeadcase]

I went with a Timemaster for my 10k sqft yard. Loved the idea of it and and when its running well it has been pretty awesome. Seems to go through traction and blade belts too often and this year a tensioner pulley broke causing my blades to get out of time and scare the hell out of me lol. It's a 2018 and I just have this feeling it is time to get rid of it (especially while new prices are so crazy - I'm going to ask for more than what I bought it for used in 2019). I just got a new Honda HRX217HLA and so far I'm fine with spending the extra 15 minutes or so mowing the lawn.

[@IndRepair]

@@ViralHeadcase Definite would get out from under it, with inflation many tractors are worth more than they were when bought new 5 years ago. Crazy! Father in law just bought a Honda because he couldn't get a Toro with a good engine anymore

[@davidash2727]

Good site

[@IndRepair]

We appreciate that!

[@kevinhaley6776]

Damn thats alot of work you got there my mom was in her 70s using electric mower she loved it i am a personal pace fella

[@IndRepair]

I love the personal pace too but the wife despises it and she does all the trimming

[@kevinhaley6776]

@@IndRepair glad you got good wife and herlper

[@IndRepair]

Yes sir couldn't do any of it without her

[@larry648]

I need to replace my Toro Super Recycler, it’s 15 years old. I’m looking at a Bad Boy/YBravo. All metal transmission, Kawasaki commercial engine. Look pretty good.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely a solid engine/machine

[@Rein_Ciarfella]

I have a Honda HRA214 self-propelled that’s 41 years old and still going strong. Inherited from the in-laws maybe 20 years ago, long before I knew anything about small engines except where to put the gas and oil, knock out the filter, oil the wheels and height adjustments and sharpen/balance the blade. Until 2 years ago I never changed the oil - just checked it before running every time and topped it a couple times a year. Never even had a prefilter until yesterday! Only ever had one problem - a broken small part connected with the front wheels not rolling backwards. That’s it! I’d buy a used, old Honda over anything out there every time! Now that I’ve taught myself small engine work I appreciate this mower even more. I still have it and use it as a loaner only to trusted relatives and customers.

[@WJCTechyman]

I grew up with its brother, the HR214SX. I still have one hiding in my shed, it needs some work but the last time I had it out it was running relatively well for a close to 40 year old machine. Very much like the HRA but with an aluminum deck instead of stamped steel and gear shift was on the handle beside the engine throttle control instead of behind the engine. I had a couple HRA units too. I wasn't a fan of the position of the gear shifter but I can see some thinking that's a good spot and also removes a control cable.

[@IndRepair]

They sure do last and last!

[@IndRepair]

That is awesome!

[@NYstranger74]

My $600 electric mower took a dump after 1 season. No idea what sensor or motor is burned out. My brother got out my aunts old 2003 Craftsman mower, put $30 of parts into it, and boom, im back mowing my lawn. Im not sold into this electric revolution just yet.

[@IndRepair]

Battery operated correct? What brand was this? I see them new all the time with issues straight out of the box but only certain brands. Many recalls also

[@NYstranger74]

@@IndRepair in fairness it was a battery Ryobi, not Ego. Ego might be better, but I can't drop the $ right now. My electric Stihl weed Wacker has been great also.

[@IndRepair]

Ryobi, kobalt and greenworks we see rather often. Definitely expensive the good ones

[@mattb9664]

Honda's hydrostatic transmission is a game changer- but you will need to service it to make sure it's filled and air-bled properly. Mine was too low and after I finally fixed it (didn't want to haul the mower to a dealer or deal with arguing over whether its warranty issue) - I can highly recommend picking one up before you can't. The auto-choke also is a joke- be prepared to spend $10-15 for a wax cartridge if you do any dusty rip outs- the dust slows the cartridge and makes the auto choke not work properly. That decompression defect though- get that fixed.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely love the old slide back choke mechanism (until they don't work). Thanks for watching

[@rayblaszczak8922]

All those mowers are so clean!! Definitely makes it much nicer to work on them when they are clean😊

[@IndRepair]

Haha that is for sure!

[@paulhorbenko4623]

Was one of the early Toros you mentioned not to buy a 22” Recycler? Perhaps Toro model 20333? I was looking at one used locally.

[@IndRepair]

The Tecumseh engine on it is not the best but some people love them

[@a.a.carpenter754]

I’ll stick to my 2 cycle Lawn Boys.

[@IndRepair]

Great machines just nobody knows how to mix gas anymore

[@wardraven8755]

I have a troy built with a briggs and it has not had issues. It was given to me used and i have been useing it for 8 years now.

[@IndRepair]

Is it the Briggs with the blue filter? If so keep rocking with it for the next 17 years or so

[@wardraven8755]

@@IndRepair it’s the one with the oval filter that clogs up fast.

[@IndRepair]

@@wardraven8755 Interesting! You must take care of it then, I do not hear that often. Awesome!

[@wardraven8755]

@@IndRepair not really just change the oil when needed and i have only replaced the air filter once or twice in 8 years. Im currently not using it because when i started it last time to mow it was surging so needs a air filter and ima just do a full service on it. So first new spark plug in 8 years.

[@davea5150]

Do you know of any mowers that are self propelled and have a side chute or one that you can fit with a side chute. I have too much lawn for a bagger. I have back issues. Just fixed my broken pull cord on my self propelled 2011 snapper with a 7.25 Briggs and Stratton engine. The mower is heavy as a top of bricks the only problem. I have in my arsenal a old lawnboy self propelled with a magnesium deck and a two stroke engine. Was thinking of trying to get it up and running. Any ideas on other light weight mowers? Thank you David

[@georgepruitt637]

Repair the 2-cycle Lawnboy.

[@IndRepair]

The lawn boy would work well if not in bad shape. Light weight is pretty much everyone anymore because they are cheap metal. Toro makes a stamped model with the Loncin engine that works pretty good

[@IndRepair]

Definitely!

[@jasonsmith373]

If that Briggs flathead was a truck engine, it would be a Ford 300 - nearly indestructible. Same goes for the Tecumseh Eager engines that Sears used - I actually used a couple of those mowers commercially. The Toro Super Recycler is about the best mulcher I've ever used - it leaves the yard with a bagged look. My experience with the Husqvarna's w/ the Honda engine was issues with the drive system handle breaking, the engine brake not working, and the transmission locking upon pulling the mower in reverse...I expected better quality from a $450 mower.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely good info and I would agree with everything here

[@philliphall5198]

Please raise the volume for us really old folks ❤

[@georgepruitt637]

He did get too far from microphone, near the end.

[@IndRepair]

I will pay closer attention to this, got a clip on microphone and it picked up too much background or white noise

[@rauldelarosa2768]

Was given a Kohler engine lawnboy mower.. it's sat a few months and won't start.. I'm not sure if I should try to bring it back from the dead az i only bought a blade and air filter for it. It worked when we got it..

[@IndRepair]

Probably needs a carburetor clean, carburetor replaced or a thermal discount for the auto choke. See issues with them all the time but if you use ethanol free fuel it will solve many of these for you

[@rauldelarosa2768]

@@IndRepair I'll remember to go ethanol free from here on.. what are your thoughts on the synthetic ethanol free gas options for lawnmowers?

[@IndRepair]

@@rauldelarosa2768 It is great, we prefer Aspen engineered fuels

[@marcaustin]

Little confused on the good vs bad Briggs engine. My Toro Recycler Max has the EXI Series 7.25 GT 163cc engine. Wondering which category it falls in

[@IndRepair]

It is one of the lower end engines made with mostly plastic parts

[@IndRepair]

Sorry I couldn't answer you differently

[@nikond90]

What are your thoughts on the Toro commercial mowers?

[@IndRepair]

Many of them are just Exmarks with a different label good mowers most models

[@REVNUMANEWBERN]

13:22 WHERE can you get those Kaw engines NEW??? around 8 to 10 HP , is that the largest SINGLE cylinder they sell?? I can't find them, HELP !

[@IndRepair]

Any commercial dealer should have a mower with this engine on it

[@6atlantis]

I had a gift card for Lowe’s so I was locked in to craftsman or ego, I went with the craftsman m230($500!). The hard plastic wheels are ripping up my lawn, I’m going to have pump the oil out as it has no drain plug(oil change free design🤷🏻‍♂️). Anything special besides the plastic carbs on those I should take extra care to maintain? Thanks

[@IndRepair]

Make sure the bolts attaching the frame to the axle plastics don't back out (of course change the oil/filter)

[@6atlantis]

@@IndRepair going to have to siphon the oil out, that’s the design. Thanks !

[@IndRepair]

Definitely, either siphon it or tip over to the side with oil fill tub closest to ground and air filter up

[@ChuckP25.]

How can you tell which engines have the plastic carburetor?

[@IndRepair]

If you look at the front of the engine directly behind the air cleaner you will see either metal or plastic at the bottom at the carburetor between the air filter and block

[@chuckgladfelter]

Don't forget about a used Snapper disc drive mower.

[@IndRepair]

You know I never was a huge fan of the design but they sure will run forever! Seems like many of the parts are starting to become obsolete but the snapper with the Briggs is a solid machine. Thanks for the input, I definitely omitted that one

[@REVNUMANEWBERN]

10:34 Sir, what is the Brand & actual Model number of that Orange mower with the crab leg front wheels?? I'd like to get that front wheel setup as parts if I can THANK YOU !

[@IndRepair]

Sorry, not sure but Ariens commercial mowers were made with this same design for a long time

[@livebig247]

2002 Toro Tecumseh engine still running strong in 2024!

[@IndRepair]

Good engine just carburetor issues like everything else!

[@livebig247]

@IndRepair ethanol free with marine stabil, run gas out end of season, never one carb issue. 22 years still NEVER have cleaned the carb! Wheels replaced couple times in rear and new cable. Oil change end of season, spark plug checked or changed, debris shaken off filter most of the time or changed if needed. Keep trying to buy another, but can't kill this one yet.

[@IndRepair]

Awesome job keeping it going 👏

[@crisprtalk6963]

HOnda or Exmark. Got it.

[@IndRepair]

Toro, exmark and a few others that make some good commercial models but 95% of consumer mowers will fail in a short amount of time

[@user-qi7yt7og7q]

I bought a used Troy bill TBS 380 Porsche more. How fast are they for the engine speed and are they good mowers and what engine is on them? I bought you do you know how much they are brand new I can’t find anything on them. what the value is on them

[@user-qi7yt7og7q]

I mean, Troy built TBS 380

[@IndRepair]

Good Briggs engine no so great body / drive train. It will last if you take good care of it keep it clean

[@user-qi7yt7og7q]

I paid $100 it’s like new it needs a tune it’s rough to start who ever had it put to much oil In it that’s why it’s hard to start do you know what the problem could be

[@IndRepair]

Too much oil will do it. Drain it down to a good level if not running good probably has a gummed up carburetor

[@bztrain]

I have an MTD push mower I bought as a return item for $135 at Home Depot. I figured if it died no big deal, I had just bought my house so needed something cheap and quick. 7 years later and it’s still running like new. Just change the air filter, oil and spark plug every year.

[@IndRepair]

Nice!!

[@philliphall5198]

Very good advice for sure 👍 People need to understand that they can’t afford the price of the better mowers now 😢😢😢😢 Obiden times will never be forgotten 😢

[@IndRepair]

For sure!

[@seung5794]

No thing beats Honda.

[@IndRepair]

They make a great mower

[@garymeadows1771]

Matt I had to read comments to find your name as I have only subscribed recently I have Honda HRU216 commercial strong engine all the whistle's and bells only issue very heavy mower will last me for Ever.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely! It is actually Martin. Thanks for watching!

[@crisprtalk6963]

It’s Martin actually

[@nicksnarski5973]

You just can't beat the Briggs flat head engines, they run for ever.

[@IndRepair]

If taken care of they sure will!

[@b286guy]

The Loncin engine is actually very durable as well. Cast iron cylinder liner, crank bearings instead of bushings, triple piston rings.

[@IndRepair]

I agree. I just prefer the Briggs

[@myriadcorp]

My 12 year old Honda HRX217 is still going strong.

[@IndRepair]

They make a great machine

[@josephpuchel6497]

Hey nice tutorial The new OHV Toro’s are garbage. Breaking down left and right I think it’s all the plastic engine components. Maybe do a break in oil change would help out.

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for the comment! I have not seen much of it but was wondering how the Loncin engines would hold up to abuse

[@benhall8946]

Strait up the old mowers with the quantum engines is the best like the old green craftsmans with the 6.5 hp quantums they are very tough super powerful and last forever

[@IndRepair]

For sure great engine

[@thomastjg53]

The price of a new mower is nuts. I had a drive cable break on an old toro , and when I went and picked up the new cable I ask what a new toro like my personal paces was over 700 buck ! I will just fix my mower, on thanks to a new one.

[@IndRepair]

It sure is crazy!

[@adamlyman8293]

I made the massive mistake of buying a Toro 30” Timemaster 2 years ago. ($1499) Just had a pulley failure which destroyed the synchronous belt. I replaced two pulleys and the belt. I’ll probably take the $$ hit and sell it. I’m so disappointed; thought this would be my forever mower. I’ll most likely get a 21” SR-4 ($800) OR jump off the cliff and try EGO electric mower. I noticed no Troy-Bilt in your shop…good brand?? Thanks for the gold mine of info!!!

[@IndRepair]

Definitely what I would do, they just break so often/easily!

[@IndRepair]

Troy bilt is made by MTD we get more MTD products than anything stay away in my opinion

[@johnjoe699]

Honda guy here. Had an exmark 30 in with kohler engine, and it turned out to be the biggest mistake in my life. Heavy as hell, terrible cut quality, the deck would clump up with clippings (with the chute open), which resulted in my having to stop and clear out the deck every few steps. Had to take it in to have the gas tank replaced on day 1. After 3 days, bolts were missing. Had to sell it and lost $1000 just to get rid of it.

[@IndRepair]

Interesting take on the 30" exmark! We see about 50 a year, never have I heard that complaint!

[@IndRepair]

The Kohler Engine, I agree, is junk on these smaller mowers. They make a few good engines but not this one!

[@jasnapon]

Is a 19 horse briggs with a broken connecting rod worth fixing

[@IndRepair]

Not normally

[@kyled159]

Timemaster isn’t worth it for the average homeowner?

[@IndRepair]

I would not recommend it at all. See some of the other comments about this from homeowners. They just are not designed well and fail way to regularly

[@cgc3320]

Wow I have only had Kohler engines the only thing I have that does not have a Kohler engine is my snow blower it has some Ariens branded engine and it drinks oil. I have never had any issues with my Kohler equipment. but I do rigorously maintain it.

[@IndRepair]

Do you have a smaller Kohler Engine like the ones on these mowers? Them make many good engines just not for mowers

[@cgc3320]

@@IndRepair Yes I have a Toro Recycler form 2017 - 18 that has a Kohler Courage XTX. A Karcher pressure washer that has a Kohler RH265. A Craftsman riding mower that has a single cylinder Kohler of some sort I will update when I get home. And a portable generator that also has a Kohler engine. I have never had any problems with any of those engines. The Karcher pressure has been through 2 pumps under warranty so that hasn't been great.

[@IndRepair]

@@cgc3320 That is awesome news. I would assume you are using ethanol free fuel and maintaining like you said extremely well. Great job!

[@4rubberzaday]

Snapper made great high vac mowers in the ninja series. Unfortunately the brand seems to be dying out 😢

[@IndRepair]

Definitely! They still make the steel deck but it has the larger newer briggs engine with the plastic carburetor. They also make a few other lines which look about like they are MTD made stamped decks

[@travelnguy2002]

I bought my Toro push mower back in 2002, and it's still running strong. Replaced back wheels and pull rope. Everything else is all original.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely something we see quite a bit with this mower. They sure don't make them like they used to

[@karlschwab6437]

I have a trashed picked Toro GTX 5hp rear bagger 3 speed forward rear wheel drive blade clutch from years ago that I am still using today on my small city lot and I would not trade it for anything!

[@IndRepair]

They were a heck of a machine!!

[@JasPlun]

John Deere 14SB In my opinion was the last great walk behind mower made nothing else came close to it and the same for reliability.

[@IndRepair]

It sure was a great model. They sure don't make them like that anymore. Commercial models are the only things that come close

[@JasPlun]

​@@IndRepair Back when I mowed for a living the Top 3 mowers were the Toro with Suzuki engines, Honda commercial, and the 14SB's with Kawasaki's.I have been thinking about starting another lawn business to have as an extra income when I retire in about 10 years. Then just hire some guys to do the work once I am retired. Enjoyed the video and subscribed:P

[@KSMike1]

I’ve been driving HRX217HXA’s since 2005. I’d recommend them to anyone, but they have three Achilles heels: 1) The rear (drive) axle doesn’t have any convenient way to lube it where it goes through the wheel adjusters; when it dries out, the dry bushings prevent the mower from rolling backwards. The only fix is to disassemble the whole rear drive system so you can get grease into the bushings. Someone smarter than me needs to devise a modification for this. 2) It’s very heavy but the wheels are similar size to lighter mowers. In areas where the mower runs along the same path (along property lines, etc.), it can wear ruts into the yard. 3) Honda doesn’t include the governor shaft oil seal on vertical engines that are intended for vertical applications (mowers). The seal is readily available and easy to install, but without it, the cooling fins will end up coated in oil. When they put the same engine on horizontal applications (pressure washers), the seal is included from the factory. Again, if mine died today I’d go buy a used one with a GCV190. I’m going to anyway if I can find a well maintained one at a good price, just for the spare engine. If you buy one used, be sure to get the bagger frame and bag. For some reason they’ve skyrocketed in price.

[@IndRepair]

Definitely great mowers! I have worked on several late seventy and early 80's Honda mowers that still run amazing. See several older briggs same way also

[@WJCTechyman]

I bought a ten year old one last year for about CA$100. In fact, I was just using it today on a couple of lawns. I guess it's heavy compared to some machines but only about 2/3 the weight of my commercial Honda. Some and I would include my opinion is when the bag is full the unit has the tendency to rock backwards. That said, it's an excellent mulching machine and that's how I was using it today. It's incredibly quiet, even with the blade engaged, I liken it to a fan running next to a sewing machine.

[@IndRepair]

Yeah they sure had a good muffler system and love the blade brake clutch and full controls

[@RB-hl3ux]

😊

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for watching!

[@6atlantis]

Toro 21845 or Honda Hrn216?

[@IndRepair]

HRN216 FOR SURE

[@6atlantis]

@@IndRepair thanks.

[@barpatron]

@4:50 exact same thing I said about my last girlfriend 😂

[@IndRepair]

Lol

[@marlonbeard5410]

💯🏆

[@IndRepair]

Thanks for watching!

[@xmanb8193]

👍👍👍👍👍👍

[@IndRepair]

Appreciate that!

[@REVNUMANEWBERN]

BETTER than B&S is the PREDATOR 173 cc 5.5 hp part number 69731 , I have used 9 for the last 3 cutter seasons, PUMP the prime bulb 3 times & it immediately starts, IF I run the tank completely dry I pump the primer 5 times, EVERY ENGINE has started on FIRST pull, a few on 2nd pull, this has been with ALL 9 engines, I have been SO IMPRESSED with these engines that I bought 9 more to put in storage for future needs !

[@IndRepair]

Interesting...

[@rauldelarosa2768]

At this point,a reel mower seems to be working for me..

[@IndRepair]

Definitely less to break!

[@thuanhuynhngoc7444]

Sao các bạn không bán hàng về Việt Nam

[@IndRepair]

I do not sell internationally or domestically at all (besides local retail/repair sales). Does Amazon not ship to your location through the links you are saying?

[@user-qi7yt7og7q]

I use 100% gasoline 91 or 93 or whatever Call is that good gas to put in my small engine

[@IndRepair]

Ethanol free 89 91 or 93 is good

[@anurakboribun2560]

@@IndRepairwhere do we get that? Do you think the bottled Trufuel? Expensive $20 a gallon where ethanoled 93 from gas station is $4.40 and I never had issues with it.

[@IndRepair]

@@anurakboribun2560 www.pure-gas.org/ has an extensive list. It will save you money in the future no doubt

[@anurakboribun2560]

@@IndRepair thank you for the immediate reply. Almost 900 locations in New York, looking closely not a single one in the Metro area, so… I go on with 93 + ethanol from better local stations “top tier” 😉. I use True Fuel in my 2cycles, some praise it some bash it, it’s been good to me. Thank you again!

[@IndRepair]

@@anurakboribun2560 Crazy! Thanks for watching!

[@mr.cookie7308]

You cannot beat anythint made by Honda, lawnmowers or automobiles.

[@IndRepair]

They sure do well

[@Ppp-kk6hw]

Talking about money isn't funny honey 😂 big up from Scotland brother

[@IndRepair]

Haha! Thanks for watching!

[@WJCTechyman]

Time disaster is good, my nicknames are time waster, money eater, money waster and just now, down-time master. I am not a fan of any of Toro's mowers, always had issues with scalping even compared to my Hondas. The stupidity of the belted blade clutch irritates me as it gets to slipping after a while, the only saving grace with the two I had was the Suzuki 2 and 4-stroke engines. Always reliable. I have liked Toro's snow blowers, especially the older ones and some of the ideas Toro has on its new units (even though they are pretty crappy now) are pretty good in principle. Honda is hard to beat and it is going out strong as well. Some say the quality has slipped but I wouldn't know, I own the HRX shown in this video, well the Canadian model and it is pretty good as well as my main walk behind is a Honda Commercial HRC216HXC I also have an old HR214SX that's currently in storage but I want to make some repairs to it. all of them are great machines. That said, if I was going to look for another gas powered walk behind it may be from Scag, Stihl or Ferris. I find the Scag SFC-21, 30 and Ferris FW15 as favourable candidates to replace my Honda. The Ferris is the Rolls Royce of walk behinds with its Honda GX390 engine and forward and reverse-capable hydrostatic transmission. I don't find any Briggs engine to be as capable as even the Honda clone Kohler engine you seem to have a beef with let alone Honda's GX and GC series. I don't have any huge issues with PowerMore (MTD's engines) and liked the fairly budget lawn mower my Mom bought that was fairly basic, all you had to do was hold down the operator presence bar and pull the recoil and it started up pretty quickly, no primer just a very simple wind vane auto choke system. It was what you would call a flimsy MTD but it did the job.

[@IndRepair]

We despise the Timecutter design but work on a ton of them so I guess we can't complain too much since it keeps the smaller commercial guys seeing us

[@IndRepair]

I think much of the Chinese clone stuff is pretty decent anymore but the Powermore engine (should have mentioned that's what it was) has 50 state carb compliant engine like most so they gum up quickly. Anything can be a good machine (most anyway) if you take care of it I just do not like the cost of parts for many of these and the lack of availability they have. Some of these carburetors are $50-$80. Can't justify throwing that kind of money at a machine like these often. Thanks for watching!

[@georgepruitt637]

Honda is not getting out of power equipment. They are just not selling them in U.S. Thanks to the E.P.A.

[@IndRepair]

Interesting info! Did not know this

[@KSMike1]

And the PRCA.

[@WJCTechyman]

It's still selling power equipment, just not walk behind mowers. Unfortunately, this affects Canada as well since the Canadian models were made in the States for some reason. Before that they were made in Japan. I guess we're only good enough to make the CR-V and Civic.

[@IndRepair]

Crazy

[@r.r.6205]

You spent so much time on Toro, & quite a bit on Honda, yet only about 10 seconds on Ariens - & that was on an old style they don't even make anymore. What about the new Ariens line (razor)? I'm not endorsing or recommending the new Ariens line, but you didn't even mention it, & in my opinion (for whatever it's worth) Ariens ranks up there with Toro - & just to put it out there - I have an older Ariens (15+ years old) with a kawasaki engine that all I've done with it is change the oil, air filter, and spark plug. Still going strong. Just saying.

[@IndRepair]

All plastic with stamped deck mounted to different axles similar to the MTD. I do not see many of them around but they like to throw around the "Our powerful Briggs & Stratton engines start every time and never require an oil change" slogan briggs has chose to use for quite some time. Gimmicks and poor quality for the entire briggs line anymore in my opinion

[@IndRepair]

They have some decent features like the MTD versions just not a good quality. Looks like Ariens stopped making that commercial model then and still makes the wide area walk behind that is about as bad as the Toro Timemaster

[@r.r.6205]

Agreed - Ariens has decided to not keep the quality they once had - all steel with a quality kawasaki engine. Leaving us in the lurch, rolling the dice as to which piece of crap we can get the most out of without sinking excess money into it - both with the initial investment and later with the laundry list of repairs.

[@IndRepair]

@@r.r.6205 I just cant believe some of the "high end" mowers they are selling at the local dealers. Nobody has 190cc Hondas or Briggs (except on Timemaster) just the Toro branded engines or the plastic carburetor Briggs (not bad quality just not as good as the Briggs). They are trying to push battery operated into these areas I think, won't be long before everyone is sick of dealing with the junk they are selling and goes this direction

[@stripersniper1531]

Find old old old and fix up ,last a lifetime. Also gas is being fazed out and these companies are moving to battery powered as per the Guberment

[@IndRepair]

Definitely!

[@mattendres6805]

Flathead briggs will run forever kohler are s#i+ out of the box

[@IndRepair]

I sure couldn't keep from having to go mess with it every other time the wife mowers. Ridiculous

[@user-rp3ev5kz2o]

Honda is not stopping to make mowers, they changed thier mind after customer feed back! Recommending Briggs over Kohler what a quack

[@IndRepair]

News to me! Tell me that push mower engine Kohler is a good engine...the quack will be identified.

[@bobb8738]

User.. Honda stopped making then in the U.S. over a year ago

[@user-rp3ev5kz2o]

@@bobb8738 might want to do a little research! Or go to your local Home Depot and see the 24 year models

[@IndRepair]

Manufacture end date and end of user sales dates will be different

[@mytglg6uh]

Most all of the 21" self propelled mowers are essentially mediocre or junk. I'm using a new Toro Commercial #22296... nothing special, mediocre entry level small mower.

[@IndRepair]

Nice mower you got almost identical to the Exmark huh?

[@dfields9511]

lol, MTD => Made To Die

[@IndRepair]

Haha for sure

[@bztrain]

I can’t kill mine

[@IndRepair]

Got a cat mower. Which life is it on?

[@donb1183]

Honda no longer making power equipment

[@IndRepair]

Still selling this year all dealers around here anyway but probably not next year?

[@harrybaulz666]

I disagree you can get 10 yrs+ with a mtd

[@IndRepair]

With a good Briggs engine sure. With the plastic carburetor, I would say that is very unlikely

[@show-me-retro]

Go battery powered

[@IndRepair]

That is seeming to be the way of the future...I see greenworks, kobalt, Toro, Black+Decker and others quite often. I have seen more Ego than anything but they are usually at least 3-4 years old coming in. They sell a ton at ace hardware here. The only real issues have been smaller wiring/pigtail issues easily fixed (of course see bad motors and stuff from hit stumps) good advise!

[@chrisrees7054]

In a year or two everything will be electric.

[@IndRepair]

They sure are phasing it out fast. I don't think it will be good enough in the next 10 years to replace consumer riders or commercial walk behinds, zt or riding mowers. Consumer handheld and walk behind likely all you will be able to buy at that time

[@danoakes4071]

Electrics are a dead end, just like with the cars. Information about how dangerous they are is being suppressed or ignored. After watching this vid, I've decided to dig out the old Toro Personal Pace, and replace the Tecumseh with a Briggs 650 flathead Series. I used to complain about having to buy an engine with every implement, and now I'm going back through them. Most have low hours, but even those that don't; run better than they did new.

[@IndRepair]

@@danoakes4071 Absolutely!

[@benyosep5640]

I hate all the KZbin reviews with the damn affiliate links! All lies for money!

[@IndRepair]

There are a few good ones that are out there but most I would agree with this on