Which Halo CE Level is the Toughest?

[@Weesee_I]

Two Betrayals I think is the toughest because of the multi-faction encounters. Not because everyone looks at you as soon as you step on a twig, but because the flood are ideal to fight with the pistol and shotgun, while the covenant are ideal to fight with the pistol and plasma pistol. And you have some vehicles as well that you'd much rather have a rocket launcher for. Basically, you can't carry every weapon you need to fight everything effectively at the same time, which can make it tough unless you like weapon juggling between rooms.

[@afanoflafear]

For me the hardest part in the entire of Halo: Combat Evolved's campaign is right after you destroy the second pulse generator, you have no shields + about to be bombarded by a horde of combat forms.

[@no-barknoonan1335]

Shotgun and pistol/rocket launcher is all you need. You can find plasma pistols should you need one in a pinch, the pistol is good prior to the flood arrival but you do not need it. Shotgun and plasma pistol is all you need. The shotgun is very strong against the covenant, it's not a headshot weapon but it can take out elites quickly, later on you won't need a plasma pistol for the elites. The shotgun is very strong against vehicles, and covenant vehicles have fixed health so they never regenerate. I mainly use the rocket to take out the rocket flood or the flood as they spawn in at the 2nd generator room, and trade it for pistols I find on the ground if there's a lot of longer range enemies spread out.

[@afanoflafear]

@@no-barknoonan1335 Halo: Combat Evolved until now is probably the ONLY game in the series which has a good shotgun.

[@Rclarke115]

Two Betrayals is the most rage inducing level for me. Rocket Flood are the bane of my existence.

[@Weesee_I]

@@jackmcmorrow9397 On the contrary, I think the multi-faction levels are what make the 2 weapon limit stand out the most. Granted, Halo 1 doesn't have a good sandbox for this, but fighting the shielded covenant enemies requires different weapons than fighting the flood. However, there are some weapons that are at least decent against both, and some that are definitely better against one or the other, and so you have to think a lot more about your weapon commitment. Plus, you have to think about the enemies and which ones might have a weapon better suited for this wave of combat.

[@Jubelio_]

I love your point about the Sniper Rifle in T&R and how great it is. I wish I knew that before I dropped it halfway through the lift fight due to running out of ammo and completing the rest of the level with out it. Hours later.

[@frogarchist]

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[@malceum]

Yeah, you wouldn't know there was sniper ammo throughout the level unless you had kept your sniper rifle on a previous playthrough or watched a guide. I also did T&R without a sniper my first time on legendary.

[@stevenjefferies9415]

This video was really fun because I watched your whole stream for footage, and I'm actually going through all the Halo games on legendary myself. Great job Frog

[@rust2985]

Two Betrayals I think is overall the hardest level, but Truth and Reconciliation has the hardest encounter once you get up on the ship…

[@Sup3rCondor]

Those energy swords swing a little faster at that part

[@coltforceplayer]

@@Sup3rCondor Truth and Reconciliation is easy bro what u talking about? The gold elites are easy cause they’re just melee and the Camo elites can be killed with just the AR

[@Sup3rCondor]

@@coltforceplayer On Legendary though? It's not really that easy. It took me like 2 hours to get through. If it's easy for you, good for you, but I think you're in the minority.

[@coltforceplayer]

@@Sup3rCondor I am a minority I’m 16 how did u know

[@NeightrixPrime]

The first ship room on T&R is very hard on your first legendary playthrough, but once you've done it a few times it can be very easy. The biggest mistake you can make is trying to play defensive because the spawns are on a timer and you'll get overwhelmed. You actually want to be very aggressive. Motion tracker > throw a plasma at the door that will open. It will either kill grunts/jackals or their AI will delay their entry and allow you to move in. As soon as you clear the group get a fresh plasma pistol and grab grenades, and check motion tracker again and repeat. When the sword elite spawns try to aggro it and just use regular fire plasma pistol while backpedaling. Aggression also keeps the marines alive much longer which in turns means you will be shot at less.

[@TheDiymovies]

Didnt expect Halo's position vs SC. Great vid!

[@bulbasaur1534]

I think it's funny that in CE we get for the toughest enemy is the rocket flood, then in 2 we have sniper jackels. What i miss in these older games is sometimes, whether intentional or not you're thrown a curveball; a wtf moment. Now the game asks you out of thin air to get really gud for this one part and no where else example A: Rocket flood which only appear on either the 2nd or 3rd floor of the library, and then 3 parts in Two Betrayals the hallway with the two elites, the second bridge, and then the area where you get the tank in Aotcr, bonus(there is one rocket flood in the end of halo 2's sacred icon). Two Betrayals is my definitive favorite level of CE and a top 5 of all the halo's because of how much it throws at you, it gives me final act vibes and it's brutal.

[@neit1235]

there are 8 parts with rocket flood in Two Betrayals, the first in the hallway with the two elites and 3 AR floods, the second in the second twin bridge, the third in the second pulse generator after activaction, the fourth and five in the tunnel where you go with the tank in Aotcr, the six in the first battle in "Final Run", the seven in the second battle (there are like 4 rocket floods ._.XD), the eight and last in the third battle, fighting the covenant and the two Wraiths

[@andryuu_2000]

It made sense in a game that ran on 30fps tick rate, not 60.

[@c__654]

I sat through the entire livestream watching him play...good work frog!

[@SlothSG]

There is a scripted checkpoint after the first 4 waves for lift fight on TnR if you manage to get into a safe place. Usually take advantage of that in LASO or the randomizer

[@frogarchist]

this level of knowledge is why i'm a proud member of the #SlothNation

[@SlothSG]

@@frogarchist Never say that ever again.

[@SlothSG]

@@JadedNebula Save and Quit on death to reload checkpoint. Iron is a useless skull and should've been kept how it was in Halo 2 where it didn't affect solo. Since it's so easily circumvented Halo 3 onward.

[@sebastiankobeh7015]

No level in any video game i have ever played, at any time in my life; has kicked my ass, over and over and over and over again as Truth and Reconciliation on legendary. It tortured my soul with the beginning lift phase, and by the time I had gotten to keyes my hopes and dreams were shattered.

[@Julesacu]

I used to find the lift fight tough - then I realised that if you start to get overrun then you can retreat through the narrow canyon you came thorough to get into the area and the enemies don't follow past a couple of rocks there. You can just camp there and kill them all. The only issue might be running out of ammo - but I make sure and pick up then drop loads of weapons in that area before the lift fight so they stay in the map. The Belly Fight though. Urggh.

[@WyattJames-ds6ec]

T and R is not that difficult honestly

[@sebastiankobeh7015]

@@WyattJames-ds6ec Did u do it on Legendary?

[@DarkHors-rf9zz]

​@@WyattJames-ds6ecIt is dude. But the frog is right. If you are crazy good with the sniper, grenades and are using overcharged plasma pistol shots, you can definitely breeze through every encounters like a mad man. It is genuinely such a rush. But I still remember countless playthroughs where I had to play in heroic for the sake of my sanity. I'm only breezing through it now, because Project Cartographer's mp made me real good with any halo Sniper.

[@Lockerus]

KZbin recommended your ODST Firefight video to me and I’ve check out some of your other stuff. Great channel!

[@ericbing8636]

Love this channel. Brings all the nostalgia.

[@MattyAce]

The two most difficult encounters in CE for me while playing on original Xbox were fighting the sword elites in T&R and fighting the flood on the bridge after the door you can’t quite get the banshee through. Awesome video 🐸

[@hunterstem8793]

I just played through the game over the weekend and Two Betrayals definitely gave me the most trouble.

[@jnew7622]

As someone who played through this back in the day on the OG xbox, The Library was the hardest level. I have alot of respect for that level and never understood the hate it gets.

[@JasonHauser125]

I like the Library level and also don't get the hate. Listening to the Monitor chatter and float around while running from terrifying monsters has imprinted itself in my brain since the first time I ever played it. Is the level too long? YES. They could have cut out some of those doors, but still, I enjoy it. In comparison, I think Cortana level in Halo 3 is much, much worse than the Library and that's a level I truly hate and think is the worst level in all the Bungie games.

[@jamesygamesy5124]

the library gave me nightmares its one of my favs

[@convergentseries3508]

As someone who played CE only relatively recently (a few years ago), I think the Library is actually fun to run (this is probably a heretical take to quite a few people lmao). I find the level relatively easy even on legendary and using the CE shotgun on flood for 30 mins is cathartic, in contrast to using a magnum which can't even shoot straight.

[@t2na_]

Facts. What helped me finally get through it without massive amounts of restarts was rocking the pistol (instead of the MA5D) and the shotgun.

[@coldwarfare1429]

The library is pretty boring to look at. Not that bad. Probably the most easy and fun if you know what you're doing. Truth and reconciliation on the other hand or any covie ship levels, I hate them. They basically gave me an appreciation for the library

[@reiller3384]

1. Two Betrayals 2. Keyes 3. Truth and Reconciliation 4. The Library 5. Assault on the Control Room 6. The Maw 7. 343 Guity Spark 8. The Silent Cartographer 9. Halo 10. Pillar of Autumn

[@LokiCocola]

Agree with your list 100%. The end of two betrayals is a nightmare, you have to run past all the enemies on a ghost without getting killed. Incredibly risky.

[@JacobBite]

Can't remember why, but I had to, or maybe just chose to kill them all. Took a long time and would not recommend.

[@Canada407]

Ahh, this explains why you were playing the levels normally on your last livestream

[@zuigi6087]

Why does he play on old graphics? Is the new graphics on mcc that bad?

[@HighasWuTang]

@@zuigi6087it’s very different at times and unfaithful to the OG Xbox halo ce

[@atch4764]

@@zuigi6087 like the other guy said, its very unfaithful to the original, and most people prefer the old graphics, especially if theyre into speedrunning or they just got the game before the remaster. (of course not all speedrunners prefer old graphics, and not all og fans prefer old graphics either)

[@Drchilly]

​@@zuigi6087 he mentioned on a livestream his game tends to crash whenever he uses anniversary graphics

[@deadeyexl8392]

@@The1RedRooster you definitely are wrong

[@LoganTodd05]

Love your content hope you continue to grow

[@jacobrichards3635]

That final section of Two Betrayals with that horde of Covenant defending against the flood is what single handedly makes it the toughest level for me

[@xtreme843]

Nice video dude! 1. Two betrayals 2. Library 3. AOTCR 4. Keyes 5. TnR 6. Halo 7. Maw 8. S.C. 9. 343 10. Pillar of autumn

[@teejaybee0852]

A tactic I’ve discovered on TnR is that if you use the active camo in the second open section, you can rush the tight corridor and grenade where the elites spawn, then you can take out the shade turrets with the sniper, after this you can nade spam where they drop down, after the hunters spawn you can usually just one tap them with decent dodging. For the inside section just stand on top of the wraith and use the pistol to take out grunts which do passive damage and then use the sniper when necessary. After you’re running through the hallways you can get through them pretty easily unless you have the catch skull on in which you need to be very careful with grunts. During the keys section you can just use plasma grenades to easily sweep through elites and the magnum to kill grunts and jackals. This is my rough explanation behind how I do it on legendary every time, in which you can complete it sub 30 minutes pretty easily.

[@Julesacu]

Never thought about standing on top of the Wraith. Will have to try that.

[@waede116]

Watching the stream for this footage was a good, chill time! At the beginning, you mentioned how you just passed 9k subs, and a few hours after uploading this, it's already 9.5k! Glad to see your channel blowing up, frog!! We love your stuff! 🐸👍

[@T____W____7777]

Really good breakdown of each level. I had a really similar experience to you. Two things that stood out to me though was Assault on the Control can be easier on foot or in a warrhog. I’m personally good with the tank, but I wanted to try to beat it with a warthog instead and once when on foot and I think that both are viable and if you’re not good with a vehicle, then on foot is 100% doable and might be easiest. Second thing is that you don’t have to do like80% of the combat on the library. I know you talked about just running past enemies in the vids, but there’s also some easy jumps to skip areas and just waiting in the corner and out of sight of the flood while spark opens the door works 100% of the time. I learned to speedrun the library and I got to say it’s actually a very doable mission on legendary and I would rank it below Truth and Reconciliation.

[@matthewcranney6576]

It's between Truth and Reconciliation and Two Betrayals. Both due to encounters and TaR not having the Pistol. The Library is honestly not that difficult, you just need to pace yourself as eventually flood stop spawning and watch out for grenade chain reactions when Carrier forms burst.

[@7ms851]

bro you need to upload more i love these videos, i fr jus binged all your channel

[@nKaero]

I recently did a full legendary playthrough of all the games with a pretty casual run? I don't know any tricks so just straight "intended" and the mission that by far gave me the most trouble in CE was Assault on Control Room. Its long as heck, ammo management is a pain and it was pretty easy for me to run into death cycles where I just kinda had to either brute force and get lucky or restart entirely and "git gud". Nightmares.

[@chrispaul2717]

@@nKaero I am currently having this issue! Playing legendary and I am stuck on the bridge with the hunters on the other side. There are definitely harder bits in the game but I just keep getting spanked 🤣

[@DeadPlayin]

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[@TackyPaladin]

Ah dang. Nothing like waking up to a new frog video! Lets goooo! Hope you are doing well friend

[@coltforceplayer]

2:22 I believe that if u aren’t looking at the doors when they open, Gold elites will spawn, but obviously some are scripted so unless u pay attention to the minimap, u will get lots of Sword elites

[@zaphyra-]

Two Betrayals is the hardest. Fuck those Rocket Flood in that tunnel.

[@Strait_Raider]

It's interesting... as a kid playing through legendary a couple of times I had very different experiences. I think that would be because I was incredibly patient (I had to be, not enough skill to run n gun) and didn't have a lot of the pro skills like using the sniper in CQB or effectively comboing with the plasma pistol. So by contrast I felt like the Library (and most combat with the flood because they were more predictable and killable with low-skill weapons) was relatively easy, and T&R not too bad because you could take the first half slow, use a Shade turret for the wave defence until the Hunters show up, and then play smart with grenades inside the ship (although the wave defence inside the ship could be tricky). My achilles heel would have been anywhere you had to fight the covenant in the open like the first part of Halo or even that two-level octagon room in Pillar of Autumn. Any time there was a tank though? Easy street. Funny how it could be one of the easiest or hardest parts of someone's playthrough depending on how they play. As someone who would just play the legendary campaign once in a blue moon though it probably skews me towards feeling like the earlier levels were harder because I would get better as I played.

[@andryuu_2000]

Mcc is harder than the originals

[@Dread-fearbringer]

For me,assault on the control room was a nightmare, The tanks,,ghosts and the banshees kept spawn locking me,whenever I tried to ride the ghosts they would get all clunky and stop moving

[@latrodectusmactans7592]

As a casual Halo player who hasn’t ever speedrun the maps, I definitely agree on Two Betrayals being the hardest. It’s so absurdly long.

[@alexbondeson2931]

i think thats a really solid list man i totally agree with it

[@amzingblinx2570]

"T&R has plenty of Sniper Rifle ammo all over the place " My CE LASO playthrough would like to have a word with you

[@zippo71111]

Pretty accurate list to mine. I would however Place Library at 4th, Truth and Reconciliation at 3rd and Keyes at 2nd. It pretty much comes down to experience and knowledge of certain spawns. Without shortcuts, the library is very tough but if you know the spawn triggers and what pace to be at during certain sections , it's still a challenge but not horrible. Keyes have punishing enemy spawns. The canyon section is dark and you can quickly get flanked by shotgun flood that can kill you pretty damn fast. Two betrayals is punishing, ammo and what weapons to carry through certain sections is what makes it damn tough along with map length and enemy count.

[@ohno5507]

Personally I think 343 GS is the easiest level in the game. PoA has the central stairwell that can be really tricky at times, but GS has basically nothing that could kill you if you know how to deal with the flood, and know the right way to go. The lack of elites is what really makes the level trivial

[@dungeonmaster201]

T&R. Is the hardest B/ c of the 1st room of the ship, & the escort mission where the bad captain is suicidal so 10 pillar of autum 9: hal 8 SC 7 343 guilty spark, mainly cause I always get lost in that area 6 AOTCR ITS Not really hard just gets boring and feels like it overstays it welcome 5 keys 4 the maw 3 2 betrayals 2 library 1: T & R

[@TheGrizzledAncient]

I always viewed Halo CE legendary difficulty by encounters instead of the levels themselves. But I personally think that T&R has the most amount of high difficulty encounters, especially when you take into account the long span between checkpoints. I would definitely put Two Betrayals second though with Keyes probably right after. I personally think that SC is the easiest mission in the game. Assault is still my favorite level in the game and I think strikes the perfect balance of difficulty and fun when played on Legendary out of all the levels in the game. But honestly I think the fact that you can ask multiple people what the hardest level in CE is and get multiple answers because each level has something that caters to a specific skill set and that's one of the things that makes it so great.

[@shadow0444]

nice video, really took me back to my childhood days of playing this awesome game. gotta love bungies halo.

[@argentinarepresenta9498]

Thanks for being part of our community

[@TheLordVagrantWells]

I remember having a ton of fun playing on Lego with a buddy back on the Xbox and taking like 3-4 hours per level. Now, years later as a solo player, I’m surprised how brutal it feels to try to get through these levels at a decent pace. Absolute props to the speed runners that can breeze through this thing and make it look easy.

[@DarkHors-rf9zz]

Speedrunning is really hard. But I prefer hokie's approach. In that he doesn't skips enemies or cuts corners.

[@bakes1324]

For me personally I’d switch Keyes and library. The library is tough but only having to fight flood means you can carry the shotgun the entire mission. Once I learned that the CE shotgun pellets have unlimited range and can deal massive damage, and sometimes even one shot, flood forms from a great distance it almost trivializes the mission.

[@nicholasknotts8531]

100% agree, two betrayals is the toughest, the multi-faction encounters can be really hard to manage

[@DavidKFZ]

6:05 - this one here where you're locked in a tight area with masses of flood is ridiculous. I died 5 times in a row before thinking "this is bullshit design" and after a quick look, I found you can actually hide in one of the corners without the flood finding you until the timer is up

[@nicolae-alexandruluca7853]

Best strategy I found to always work in the 3rd mission at the elevator where the 10 waves come is basically to put myself in the elevator as they come down, do make sure you have your marines too cause alone is quite difficult, target the elite first jackals 2nd and then the grunts, all should go well

[@atch4764]

this was a fun stream, i wouldve stayed longer if i didnt have garbage internet

[@hoppeanhelicoptertours]

Great video frog

[@jakethecarsandreactorvideo9409]

Another tough thing about playing truth or reconciliation on legendary is once you’re inside the ship you only get one set of marines you don’t get any more for the rest of the level

[@AmoCran3]

Two betrayls was my fav mission on that game, i used to jump on the game and start with this lvl when i could play

[@clintcook8691]

When i did my first legendary run of CE the mission is personally had taken the most time on was Assault on the Control Room and Two Betrayals. Even with the banshee skip it was tough. Then again i beat it with the Ruby's Rebalanced mod so everything was a bit tighter and tougher.

[@andryuu_2000]

What? The rebalance mod makes the game even harder?

[@clintcook8691]

@@andryuu_2000 in some ways and easier in others.

[@CannaToker420]

Truth and reconciliation. Hands down. I just started playing CE a few months ago and beating that level on the legendary took everything I had. I was mentally drained afterwards.

[@joellarrosa5247]

For me it was between truth and reconciliation and AOTCR. It literally took me 2 hours to beat TaR because of the hangar bay and the unlimited respawning stealth elites, AOTCR was just a bitch to get thru in some areas. Two betrayals is honestly a close third with all the flood/covenant rooms but for some reason the really hard sections in AOTCR are just more memorable to me in terms of kicking my ass

[@asherlyle]

When i was younger me and my friend completed halo 1 legendary before the days of youtube. The last mission we finally beat together ie must have been the hardest to us was two betrayals. So this list i agree with

[@Bizargh]

I'd probably say around the same, myself. Truth & Reconciliation's not so tough as long as you keep your Sniper Rifle well supplied & your Plasma Pistol handy (Or otherwise keep the Precision + Plasma combination going). The Library kicked my arse on my Goat Roped run, but I still managed to keep it within 2-3mins beyond par time and I otherwise rather enjoy being Knee Deep in The Flood (Maybe less so on Legendary and even less so on The Clock at the same time). Two Betrayals on the other hand is as long as it can be brutal. It took me 40+mins on my Goat Roped run (Mostly because I got caught off-guard by my lacking familiarity with it's Legendary changes, particularly the sheer amount of additional Rocket Flood Legendary throws at you) and I saved it until last, thinking it would be the toughest one in that regard and it did end up being as such (Other massively time-saving speed-running techniques for other levels ensured that I'll never have to play Two Betrayals or The Library on Legendary & The Clock simultaneously ever again). As for The Maw, I play it safe with one Exhaust Coupling at a time, but then retreat to the corridors to "abort" the incoming Sentinels, which makes this mostly unusual encounter a whole lot more survivable to the point that I actually would play The Maw on Legendary for fun, especially considering the level-specific Legendary changes are almost none besides the shortened countdown timer and I have done that Warthog Run dozens if not beyond a hundred times (And I still stop for Foe Hammer every single time, with Goat Roped one of the handful of breaks in the habit). However, I generally don't play Halo: Combat Evolved on Legendary for fun as I have an insane obsession with finishing levels with zero preventable friendly casualties, which on Legendary is just time consuming at best if not an exercise in sheer frustration, especially as it's more likely that they'll be stun-locked to death than I'll be punished for the aggressive play-style I use for such encounters (Although Ruby's Rebalanced & Combat Revolved do a lot to reduce the babysitting and let me enjoy the action on Legendary, but Combat Revolved can have it's own jokes at your expense, especially with what-appears-to-be-difficulty-based checkpoints for Combat Revolved occasionally being spaced out to a downright evil distance, at least on Assault on the Control Room anyway).

[@pepsuchan]

Halo and Truth and Reconciliation are so difficult for the way I play which is try to save as many Marines as I can. Getting able to hear the scripted audio that plays after the hanger if you still have marines is pretty cool on legendary. You almost forget they have all those lines. My highscore marinecount by the scripted death room is I think 3

[@BlueAizu_]

I'm not quite ready for Legendary yet, but I started replaying the campaign on Heroic. I beat Pillar of Autumn and Halo pretty handily, which felt great because I used to struggle with Halo. I felt pretty confident going into Truth and Reconciliation, but found it is a _gigantic_ spike in difficulty for only being the third level. I feel a lot better getting confirmation it's actually one of the more difficult levels. It's one thing when there aren't many checkpoints; it's downright _sadistic_ if one saves when you're on your last sliver of health and already surrounded by enemies. I guess I should have expected it when the multiplayer tends to respawn me in front of a guy that's already fired a rocket launcher, but Jesus Christ, man

[@DarkHors-rf9zz]

Starting out in heroic or normal is a good idea to be honest. Let's you enjoy the game and practice. It's what I did back in the OG Xbox.

[@danielwendell542]

Agree entirely; spot on Mr. Frog!

[@weenibeenies]

Two betrayals deffo overall, personally I remember being unbelievably stuck on the last section where you have to steal a banshee from the covenant defence point they set up at the other end of a giant canyon area, with wraiths and a shit load of jackals, elites, and grunts, oh and hunters too to top it all off. By this point you’re most likely also struggling for ammo and the layout of that area is incredibly open with not many places to run for cover from the wraiths mortar bombing you and the elites sniping you with their plasma rifles.. Ended up running back to go try find a magnum cause i had barely any sniper ammo left and this section is ridiculously hard without a precision weapon, but by god was I relieved when i finally managed to steal that banshee and fly away with 1 bar of health left with the hunters and everything still firing at me..

[@pretty-white-lamb]

yep that's the hardest scenario in the game imo

[@ByTheLake81]

Truth and Reconciliation for me, you called it. Idk flood generally aren't that hard imo, you just shoot the arm.

[@michaelschumacher75]

Hey 🐸, I think…. WE’RE GONNA NEED A MONTAGE

[@tommunism8778]

Just finished my first legendary play through, and the answer is (imo) is Truth and Reconciliation. And it wasnt even close.

[@DHSPITROCKS]

After beating all MCC on LASO, god truth n rec really has me shivering just thinking about it. TB is for sure a monster without cheese

[@megamuffin15]

For me the hardest part of The Maw on legendary was always the cafeteria. Those spec ops elites don't mess around.

[@ErikLosLobos]

On the truth and reconciliation lift is where I am at now. Jeeeeeez

[@TemplarDG]

10. Pillar of Autumn 9. The Silent Cartographer 8. 343 Guilty Spark 7. Halo 6. Assault on the Control Room 5. The Maw 4. The Library 3. The Truth and Reconciliation 2. Keyes 1. Two Betrayals

[@aptspire]

It was a good stream, you could tell chat was tired at the end with their subject matter 🕯

[@OnlyTwoShoes]

My first playthrough of Halo CE was on legendary and I only felt the difficulty once I reached The Library, but that was because I didn't run and gun.

[@luketroxell2311]

I absolutely love Two betrayals and I think it stands head and shoulders above the rest in terms of difficulty. T&R and the library have two extremely hard encounters (first time on covenant ship & 90 second flood holdout) but besides that those levels aren't that hard. Keys moment to moment is sketchy if you're careless but never feels too hard. Everything hard about AOTCR is amplified on Two betrayals and the rocket flood that felt like a mini boss on the library feel like they're around every corner on two betrayals. Hands down the hardest section in the game is the final push on Two betrayals specifically the big encounter with the wraiths etc, (running past it is a more time effective Strat but feels like you're not completely the level in earnest).

[@saricubra2867]

I died from so many random rockets from the Flood on the library and Two Betrayals

[@BENKYism]

Two betrayals and truth and reconciliation are the two hardest missions on legendary

[@SamsarasArt]

For me I would say it's a tie between Truth and Reconciliation and Assault on the Control Room. Some of the hardest encounters of the whole game are in those two missions.

[@pretty-white-lamb]

Mine is almost identical to yours. I'd only swap around 4. T&R with 3. Keyes (but I had no idea you could continue with the sniper thru the whole level), and 8. Halo with 7. SC. I agree that Two Betrayals is the hardest level.

[@saikrishnaanish9264]

Final run on two betrayals without using the ghost or banshee, is the toughest part of Halo ce legendary... the game throws everything at you except spec ops elites .... Banshee, 2 wraiths, rocket flood, 2 gold elites, stealth elites, hunters... Would love to see anyone attempting John wick run of TB

[@NeightrixPrime]

Only thing I'd switch is Library with Keyes. Except for the one chokepoint where you're close in I don't think any particular part of the Library is too difficult. I think a lot more can go wrong on Keyes like between surprise carriers, getting sandwiches by black elite spawns, etc.T&R is probably also harder than Library for newer players, but once you learn to wipe the gravity lift nothing is too hard.

[@snaildad193]

I don't have a ranking, but even to this day I still get hung up on that hallway in the Maw with infinite flood on one side and Hunters and Elites on the other. It seems like I ALWAYS have 1 health and no ammo there during a glitchless run

[@sujalkumarsingh18]

Well you can skip the "Hold your position until the index returns" by just going a few steps back, the flood won't spawn for the time being, that makes the library even easier.

[@Jacob-360]

I think i’m gonna play halo on legendary again

[@theseabear3008]

I'd put 2 betrayals at 1 just because of that bullshit at the end with the covenant guarding the banshees which are your only method of completing the level guarded by wraith, hunters, multiple turrets, rocket flood, invisible elites, gold generals, elite majors, and dozens of grunts and jackals. And then the two progressively more difficult valleys prior to that.

[@delta35thereal]

I unironically hold the view that the library is my favourite map

[@acenewholland564]

Fun fact, I always hear Tuba Trails for 2 betrayals

[@ThorstenBöhm-u7x]

got a trauma from Assault on the control room on Legendary with my brother

[@59spadesofalife52]

Ahh I loved beating this game on legendary CE is my favorite Halo Besides 3 and ODST

[@SamHaugen]

The only level that I was stuck on for a bit on Legendary was Truth and Reconciliation.

[@flyingdoggo9887]

keyes imo is the hardest because of how unpredictable it is. tons of (seemingly) infinite spawns, terrible lighting, and chain reactions that can happen at any moment. two betrayals is a hard level, but it's predictable. you know where the rocket flood will spawn after a few playthroughs and then the difficulty factor is mainly influenced by the length.

[@timothywatkins4989]

I’ve been working to try to do this game on legendary deathless and yeah there’s two levels that scare me Library and Two Betrayals. Personally I think Two Betrayals is harder- especially legitimately. I’m incredibly reliant on the extra ammo exploit for rockets for the first wraith section- though with some accuracy I think it’s manageable. But more than that it’s just cursed. I’m always running out of ammo, if you try to bring a vehicle into the last section you have to pay super close attention to a bunch of triggers, and I just find myself (especially when I am going deathless) scraping the bottom of the barrel to survive. The vehicle sections the banshee and ghost have health bars. I just find myself doing so much planning and set up work to survive this level.

[@miniaturejayhawk8702]

The only way I managed to beat halo on legendary was the fact that I noticed how the ai never gets too far away from the complex. I figured this out by first trying to hide after realizing that I couldnt beat them head on. But they always found me because apparently the enemy ai is always aware of your position in that encounter. Then I remembered that cea had an achievement for beatong the level without the warthog so I tried to finish the mission without waiting for e419. However I failed the grenade jumps multiple times so I gave up and made my way back. I expected the hordes of red elites to catch up to me and end me but turns out they dont leave the complex however they all just stand around the landing zone nearest to where you are so I just decided to pick them off with long range fire. In the end thats pretty much how I got through most encounters on legendary. Keeping my distance and relying on enemy quirks. That was at least until the flood arrived. Then it was just run and gun, just like on all other difficulties. I am more of a in-your-face fighter so swarm tactics dont really work on me. I am either on long range or in close quarters but nothing inbetween.

[@TheDrawable]

Two betrayals is the common choice but in all honesty on higher difficulties it doesn't compare to the torture that is truth and rec / keyes.

[@Stryke_r]

Your my favourite frog 😊

[@tylerthewarhammercreator8838]

Keys and the library have always felt very easy in comparison to how people rank them. Two betrayals is hard buuuuut I have to hand it to Truth and reconciliation that mission absolutely kills any run I do

[@Julesacu]

For me the hardest on Legendary by a wide margin is Truth and Reconciliation. I struggle with the belly fight. If I can do that the the rest of the game is a relative breeze. I actually really enjoy The Library and Two Betrayals is tough but not too bad.

[@jakethecarsandreactorvideo9409]

The only thing that could make assault on the control of the easiest legendary level is if you do the bridge descent

[@jameshayes2022]

I'm doing a chill play through of CE on heroic and Two Betrayals is the hardest so far.

[@monolith4653]

I played it all on legendary solo with iron, my hardest time was on Truth And Reconciliation, Second was Two Betrayals

[@amberholly8535]

girl shoutout ❤

[@brandonking5111]

on easy difficulty the two betrayals is the only level where I die because of those rocket flood.

[@malceum]

I've done three legendary runs, but I'm by no means an expert. The flood missions, minus Two Betrayals, are pretty easy for me because grenades and shotgun can easily clear entire rooms. Halo level is always tough before the warthog because the enemies are usually in fields, making grenades hard to use. SC is often challenging on the way up. T&R and Two Betrayals are the overall toughest for me.

[@DarkHors-rf9zz]

Tbh, I no longer find Two Betrayals that difficult. Last time, I didn't skipped a single enemy and probably only died once to a banshee splatter near the end. It's always been my favorite level, so I tend to randomly come back and play that one level alone. Maybe it's just that. 😂

[@obsecivegaming2996]

Was wondering does using skulls like bandana invalidate a legendary run cuz I used that on my legendary run for all the halo games on mcc