Which is BETTER? Built 2024 Tacoma or 3rd Gen Tacoma?

[@beethao920]

i wouldnt upgrade/trade in for a 4th gen but would buy one if i didnt already have a truck…i think my 3rd gen still looks better and will end up being more reliable

[@saadahmed9460]

how is a 2.4 liter turbo motor unreliable. its such a basic design. do you have any kind of technical reason about the engine that makes you think it will be unreliable or just because its turbo?

[@StealthTRD]

Have you not seen all the issues reported from both the tundra and tacoma? Maybe qc problems but regardless, why a 4 cyl w a turbo when you can get a bulletproof 6 cyl​@@saadahmed9460

[@anthony445]

@@saadahmed9460the motor itself is probably very reliable and simple, the engine itself isn’t very much so as they have a turbo and also added more plastic coolant elbows to make it lighter and cheaper. I think it’s non-interference engine and timing chain like the 3.5l but it’s still forced induction which will always run hotter and burn more oil than a NA engine.

[@mrmonet9354]

I will give it a few years and maybe look at a 4th . The price point has me at a dead stop . Great content . No glam talk. Straight chat . Congrats on the new baby on the way brother! Thanks fellas

[@mmedia2678]

Must be nice to be able to afford all the toys 😅

[@michaelfincham2749]

I own the 1st, 2nd. and 3rd gens. All 3 platforms are perfect. I don't think I will be buying a 4th gen. The first 3 look better and are easier to work on. The 4th gens engine bay looks like a nightmare. And with Trani issues, shock fails from bump stops, The front sway bare disconnect has silicon sealing it instead of a real seal ( that's going to be a issue down the road), No grease fittings on the drive shafts, axils not coated or painted( rusting while sitting on the lot waiting to be sold, less cabin room, no ware near enough aftermarket products yet, and a 4 banger being forced to do what a 6 banger did without having to put more heat on the engine. This engine needs to see more years. not just miles before it will be a truly trustworthy engine. You can make any engine look good when its young. It took the Nissan Frontier 3 years before all the problems started popping up in the 05 Frontier. For the early buyers I hope your part of that majority that slip though the problem net. Gen 3 will be my last new Taco purchase. End of an era.

[@steveflo]

Could have got a 24 but chose a 23 off road. My truck will still be around while the 4th gen will be recycled a couple times.

[@mattandrickadventures8416]

I am a Colorado ZR2 guy but i will say that the gen 3 tacoma is the best in my opinion.

[@1fsttoy]

I have a 3rd gen. Other than the 4th gen having more power, I’m not sold on the looks of the 4th gen.

[@elbolsillo]

The thing about Tacomas, is that they’ll always clean up good and look nice. Any Tacoma with a little care and some nice tires makes them timeless. They all look good

[@PhiLIdahoTaco]

Man, I could never unsee that hammerhead shark look now. LOL

[@kindredkurse]

i cant wait to get a 4th gen. i remember when the 3rd gens came out people were so skeptical that the new 3.5 v6 would be any good and people hated it (alot still do) and now its regarded very well. i bet in 10 years people will say the 4th gens are awesome and then be skeptical of the 5th gens. point is everyone hates on the new gens then accepts them then loves them and then hates on the next gen again and so on.

[@brenbascos]

Humans, in general, hate change. It’s in our DNA 😅

[@josiahwyncott7519]

Because an expensive truck should have a truck-sized engine. The new one is heavier and is being made to put out more power from a smaller engine. It is not going to age well. Nevermind the stupid trendy shit like an automatic tailgate and pump-up seats... (On higher trim)

[@jamesfreeman7954]

@@josiahwyncott7519 Mobile phones have gotten smaller, but yet they are much more capable than phones from the 80s! Technology has advanced! Toyota engineers are best in the business, I would rather trust them than youtube keyboard engineers!

[@josiahwyncott7519]

@@jamesfreeman7954 A mobile phone is not a mechanical machine with a thousand parts. This change is not due to engineering, it is due to politics and bureaucrats that don't know basic physics.

[@SithLordDarthBane]

Well 4th gen is having some Serious transmission problems. If they haven't they will probably recall it soon. But I still want one I will just wait for 2025-2026 year models.

[@codyfox2038]

When it comes to longevity and reliability. Do you think the v6 that is always shifting up and down and being at 6k rpm will last longer and have fewer problems? Or the 4 cylinder turbo that sits at 1500-3k and not hunting? Idk... I guess we will see.

[@michaelptm2269]

👏 👏 👏

[@g4yrut]

The 3.5 has eight years of documented history now. It’s a stout and reliable engine, built off 30+ years of experience manufacturing dependable, naturally aspirated V6’s. Time will tell if the 4cyl is reliable, but it’s certainly more intricate and complex…

[@codyfox2038]

@g4yrut this is true. There are definitely more moving parts to have fail. But if toyota stays true to their roots. It should be just as good as any other products they produce. But like we have said, only time will tell if they are worth a damn or not. 😄

[@YerBoyTroy]

The 3.5 was designed to run at higher RPM's. Most people think its destroying itself at 6k rpm because its not a particularly good sounding engine. But thats what it was built for. The 2.4 internals are subjected to higher amounts of heat and pressure due to forced induction, and as a result increased thermal loading on the engine. Exposure to higher amount of heat and the more severe heat cycling is what eventually wears material down. You can design forced induction engines and have cooling systems compensate for the increased heat, but thats up to the OEM to design properly. This is an inherent disadvantage of a forced induction engine vs NA Even though the 3.5 is having to rev higher, its naturally going to run cooler over its useful life.

[@PureBlood777]

@@codyfox2038 my third GEN does not have gear hunting and where did you come up with the 6k rpm shift?

[@LuisSanchez-dw7mt]

Second gen. Legendary 4.0 engine. 2024 Tacoma owners got robbed of cab space.

[@absolute.freedom]

Good truck but that 4.0 is a dog, my 3.5L MT 4.30 rear end will walk circles around that 4.0L

[@Landcruiseroverland]

The first year of the third gen is the 4.0

[@jbcope1000]

I liked my 3rd gen, but once i drive my 4th gen, i was hooked

[@rupertgumban9251]

Both are Bad Ass Rigs!!! Been following Mike during his 2A years ,EDC’s etc. I followed R4T like 3years Tuan’s inspired me to get a Toyota in fact I got 2021 T4R TRD ORP now. I used to be Honda & Nissan guy. Hopefully I’ll be lucky to have more money someday so that I can send my T4R to R4T to do 74Weld portals and some 38’s on it

[@m.687]

I picked up a 2023 Tacoma and it will staying in the garage until my 2019 is gone. Hopefully 10 years from now

[@BlueHazeYota]

Regardless of the looks or power, we all buy these trucks to get out into the back country. It’ll get us there and back home!

[@skateinspace]

yeah uh except 4th gen will not get you home, they are already saying overheating transmissions especially with bigger tires.

[@fiftyshadesofurban]

8:51 It's interesting how Mike's came with the air dam. The TRD Off-Roads are not supposed to have the air dam.Seems like sometimes some of these trucks just come with random stuff that doesn't fit what the trims or features are supposed to have.

[@daveh3979]

3rd Gen sooo much better

[@jb10001110101]

How did you fit 37” on there with only a 2” lift?

[@sonysoyboysaremadeoftears.7404]

1st and 2nd gen still exponentially better than both

[@wesharris07]

Shit man I was wonder what’s up with you guys. I’m glad to see y’all reconnect. Well for us as fans of both the channels

[@lucacadianalbert]

I personally prefer the looks and footprint of the 3rd Gen but the 4th is a stunning tuck. Mike - in your last vid you mentioned there was a story behind your 3rd Gen Tacoma, when are you going to tell us about it? ha ha

[@mustangecoboosthpp3869]

I will keep my 3 Gen 2023 with the 2.7 four cylinder 4x4. Truck does everything I want it to and it looks great.

[@chrisbledsoe702]

I’ve had a 3rd gen and the 4th gen blows it out of the water absolutely love my 4th gen. I fully built my 3rd gen and I think people need to give the 4th gen a chance. Now the one thing I’m not happy with is how much space was cut in the rear passenger compared to the 3rd gen but other than that 4th gen all the way

[@curtwebbe6301]

I’ve ordered the 25 Trailhunter. Already thinking of ways to get the turbo 4 to last. Frequent oil changes with very high quality oil. Then add BG MOA to every oil change. Warm ups and cool downs for turbo engine will be necessary

[@absolute.freedom]

Sounds like fun 👍

[@EverydayJ1786]

With the added weight and mods id highly suggest switching engine oil to 5w30 synthetic . 0w20 might be ok in stock form but once modded and loaded oil temps will increase and better to be safe than sorry

[@ripdawg]

im not even fantasizing about the 4th gen or any new truck at these current prices. they can keep em.

[@jasonhepton8024]

4th gen FTW until the turbo has a problem😳 But seriously having the possibility of running 35’s with minor lift and trimming is Clutch!

[@CD-hc5ds]

Personally i think the 3rd gen is a WAY better body style, dont like the 4th gen fronts & at a glance when i 1st saw the 4th gen, i thought it had body damage on the bed, body lines are weird. I would like to know how they pull a small trailer trailer? I have heard from a couple mechanics (one toyota tec) they are seeing blown head gaskets. Thoughts on this?

[@cosmotraumatika7474]

Absolutely love the 4th gen aesthetic. Will never buy the 4-cylinder ricer turbo. Bring back the naturally aspirated six or watch Tacoma off-roaders flee the brand.

[@deucebigs9860]

I'm going to post on all your videos until you do it! Please do a video on TSS3.0 and lane tracking for the 4th gen! I want to know if roadtrips will be better and easier than my third gen.

[@appleztooranges]

Did you undercoat either truck?

[@fiftyshadesofurban]

1:07 Are we ever gonna be able to get full width bumpers like that for the 4th gen? I checked and I saw some high clearance thing that has this really thin full width extension but it doesn't look like it will protect anything at all, if you hit something seems like the plastic part of the bumper and anything there will still get demolished. I wanna get a bumper like what Mike has on his 3rd gen.

[@406yota]

3rd gen still looks better

[@n118nw]

I have a 4th gen with a few mods and I love it. I went from 2nd to 4th no regrets. I see a lot of hate on YT about the smaller engine, more expensive tag, Tundra engine issues, blah blah blah.. but over 10,000 of these have been built and very few have had any issues. Like any new generation there are always going to be bugs to be worked out. Every car goes through the teething process.

[@phenyl]

Imagine running 37s on a non-iForceMax Tacoma.

[@KTown_Painter]

Traded my 3rd generation for a 4th. I just think the new 4th generation Sport is maybe the best looking truck I've ever seen.

[@WestGAKayakfishing]

What roof racks are on those Tacoma’s?

[@appalachhaun_adventures]

I love the front end of the 4th gen! I just got one…shh 🤫 I haven’t announced it yet on my channel

[@Minneyota]

What I would like to know is if some of the 3rd gen aftermarket parts will fit the 4th gen. Like sliders, bed cap, is there a spot to put in a hidden winch? Will the 3rd gen roof rack fit on a 4th gen? Those are the things I feel like nobody is talking about.

[@JamesReedy]

4’th Gen is way too try hard. The 4 Runner wears the new styling better.

[@calgreco8607]

I wonder how the 24' compares to Jeeps 4cyl. turbo with 8 speed automatics? My Jeep feels smooth and torquey at low speeds.

[@jayfrei]

Does 4th gen have a lift or just 37”s ?

[@SonOfTheWild]

Next step should be to see both off-roading ❤😊

[@hophead2342]

I have a 3rd gen now. I like the looks of the 4th but going to be a while before I would consider it. I will give it about 2 years for them to work out bugs and go from there.

[@kongxiong6272]

What kind of mount do you have your Riversmith on? i need something like that because my tent takes up my entire bed rack space.

[@kongxiong6272]

also, what seat covers are those?

[@reef4hmmm]

Why are yall not putting respect on the 2nd Gen 4.0 v6 4x4? That motor with all the gears bells and whistles added, fricken goes!! Especially a manual.

[@jackbauer562]

I got gen3…looks and performs better

[@appalachhaun_adventures]

My 4th gen non-hybrid has that box area in the rear under seat storage. Isn’t that only for the hybrid battery? Seems like I should have gotten that space back with a non-hybdid 😂 🧐

[@CanoeBoi]

When I saw the 4th gen announcement, only based on looks, I started looking into buying a 3rd gen. It looks too much like a baby Tundra. Too aggresive and bold to my taste!

[@starrinightzs]

like how kindredkurse said, when 3rd gens people hated the v6 then loved it is crazy

[@morgan7992]

Will there be a comparison video on the trail? 🤔

[@lilbarney3514]

I owned a 2021 trd offroad tacoma and upgraded to the 2024 and i will never go back. everything is a million times better

[@jimbosliceatlanta]

Great video

[@ceejzai0490]

What kind of headlight does the 3rd gen have anybody know?

[@oniisaac9081]

I’ve been looking for intake to hear the turbo better but can’t find it

[@4xhoser]

Barely any mechanical comparisons which is why I clicked 🤔🤘🇨🇦

[@aknadiri2520]

3rd gen is

[@paulzo2o9]

3rd gen more just my opinion, still like em both because it’s a taco 🌮 TOYOTA!

[@oniisaac9081]

What intake is that?

[@FabKoj-rf5kj]

Looks 4th gen, engine reliability probably 3rd gen!! Don't wanna deal with turbo and all the technologies!!

[@hernandezcarlos]

I don't understand how it would be a discussion, a 4 banger with a turbo vs. A six? I mean u hear nothing but problems eventually when u have turbo. I understand the slowness of the 3rd, but never any problems

[@Clint3029]

The only one that matters and is better is the one you have!

[@Landcruiseroverland]

The third gen was good and all but you gotta get the 16 so it has a truck engine with the 4.0. The 3.5 is a great engine but it belongs in cars like it was designed for. The 4th gen is amazing and we enjoy our trailhunter. The 3.5 is amazing in an is350 because you can rev it up and it’s quick but in a heavy truck it’s a turd because it makes all the power up top

[@TacticalNomad33]

Headlight placement makes the truck look Derpy

[@lespaulguitarist92]

few people keeps a vehicle over 300k miles anyway, so longevity is out of the question. those who can afford a brand new vehicle almost always won't be keeping a vehicle long term. for the people who can only afford old used vehicles, by that time, the turbo tacoma parts would be affordable to maintained.

[@Saucey_0y0]

Can’t wait for the 5th gen to come out and have people say 4th gen > 5th gen

[@PureBlood777]

3rd gen > 4th gen .

[@camcom76]

drive the 4th and then tell me what you think. I have both. 4th gen makes the 3rd gen feel like driving a log sled.

[@charmmoua8494]

@@camcom76facts

[@PureBlood777]

@@camcom76 so what if I wanted to drive fast I wouldn’t of bought a Tacoma. Lets see how long that turbo lasts. 😉

[@nikotal.4282]

Even with the smaller wheels 3rd gen looks so much better. The 4th gen looks pretty bad next to it.

[@PillPushaT]

Idk, I upgraded from the 3rd and to me it’s better in every way 🤷🏻‍♂️

[@michaelfincham2749]

I like the way the 3rd gens look over the 4th. Not into the high tech look of it. and at 60+ thousand for a TRD and until they salve all these bugs in these things I'm not going near a 4th gen.

[@Jojo-ni2cg]

the 3rd Gen-its 7500. dollars cheaper, it has a proven v6 power plant and was mostly made here in the good old USA not Mexico

[@mad-meh2719]

Both look good

[@ordinarypeople5986]

5:56 "but" 😂😂

[@toyotaofclermont]

Sick!!! 😱

[@Noname00877]

3rd gen all day

[@CodyVella]

Third gen.

[@LancerNik13]

When toyota makes changes based on emissions not reliability, there you go, 3rd gen will win.

[@michaelptm2269]

Man I understand all the dislike towards the 4th gen, but I’m all for the fourth generation.

[@TamingTrails]

Sid the sloth reference 😂

[@amodmathew9981]

3rd gen > 4th :3

[@gottagedit]

I don’t get why he needs/ has 3 trucks? Da fuq

[@planoman0935]

I have both. 4th gen is better in almost every way measurable.

[@absolute.freedom]

Except that insignificant thing called reliability...

[@planoman0935]

@@absolute.freedom Knock wood! 6 months in and no issues with 4th gen at 5000 miles. 3rd gen rear brakes started squeaking after the 20k service at dealer. Son is taking it in this week.

[@absolute.freedom]

@@planoman0935 my 2020 has had 0 issues and does everything quite well. 4.30 rear end 6mt, great truck.

[@BabakPA]

Hands down the 3rd gen is a much longer lasting truck and far more reliable!

[@brenbascos]

I feel like i got more valuable info out of these 2 compared to millions of youtubers out there.

[@absolute.freedom]

3G all day.

[@appleztooranges]

Oh hell yeah

[@OceansideCreations]

It sounds like with all the complexity of the 4th gen tacomas you are better off with a 3rd gen. Toyota squeezed together all these parts to pass an emissions test and save money with global platform. I dont think it will end well.

[@roycemartin9068]

Everyone who says the 4th gen has “so much more power” than the 3rd gen bought their Tacoma for a totally different reason than I bought mine. So dumb, such a terrible justification

[@joecerda630]

I wanna know how y'all afford so much...im in the wrong business for sure.

[@tomorrowtactical]

Same! and look at the house and garage situation! Plus they're in Colorado where that can't be cheap.

[@vince510]

They both own their own businesses.

[@cjclose6594]

Like the 4th gen. Just hate the 4cyclinder turbo

[@camcom76]

Drive one. You will be impressed. Drives night and day better than the v6 I used to own. I did get an extra warranty just in case. So far though the turbo four makes the truck fun to drive again. Don't buy all the hate until you have driven one.

[@cjclose6594]

@@camcom76 I’m looking into buying 2024 Lexus GX550 overtrail

[@m.687]

​@@camcom76The whole appeal of the Tacoma is bullet proof reliability. Dependability was clearly an afterthought with the 4th gen.

[@stevegarcia3229]

Not a big fan of the 4th gen I think it looks ugly to me but the interior is nice tho ( different ) 3rd gen lines and body is just right…..

[@casper24ism]

I could not imagine putting 37s on that tiney engine.i don't care how much torque it has

[@CaptainFALKEN]

2nd and 3rd gen have a better cab design from the side. 4th gen back doors and window are too small and look like a Colorado. But I have a 4runner so it's better than any Tacoma

[@ninja83187]

lol last dandelion 🦥

[@dougiekavanagh7508]

The flaring on the 2024 looks like the vehicle was in an accident.

[@BOBBYdigital31]

3rd gen

[@Alex-tq1ph]

Love both trucks but the 4th gen is better in every single way (reliability is still tbd)

[@skateinspace]

rest in peace toyota

[@davidu6093]

stick with my 3rd generation untill all the bugs are worked out for the 4th generation

[@marcusross3959]

OK fine, i'll trade the 09 for a 25 with 37's

[@santosrafaelcentenoramos2837]

3rd gen si berer

[@jamesfreeman7954]

The broke V6 olks are fuming right now! Someone check on them! In all seriousness I hope they continue their tone, that way when the new 6G 4runner's comes out I can actually purchase one without the dealer mark up!

[@sonysoyboysaremadeoftears.7404]

LMAO! Nah, the "broke v6 folks" are laughing at idiots that buy these plastic toy trucks at $60,000 and are breaking left and right lol. Try again.

[@jamesfreeman7954]

@@sonysoyboysaremadeoftears.7404 Breaking left and right 🤣 which dealership do you work for? You trying to clear stock?

[@sonysoyboysaremadeoftears.7404]

@@jamesfreeman7954 Why are you mad about the truth?

[@m.687]

So broke just I bought a 2023 to have when my 2019 needs to be replaced.

[@jamesfreeman7954]

@@m.687 That's why the middle class stay middle class. I'm driving a Lexus from 2015 with a V6.