WAS IT THE RIGHT CHOICE? 2024 Toyota Tacoma iForce MAX TRD Off-Road Review and Thoughts

[@DanDelzell]

Forget the truck, I want your garage.

[@ToyotaTrucksTV]

😂❤

[@Mike_The_Hog_A_Nator]

Same here, don't care for the little engine high dollar truck. I want that badass garage 😂

[@TalonSei]

First mod… portals. Give the people what they want 😮‍💨

[@LastLineOfDefense]

Fine

[@beaumontdale675]

Next mod, convert to 6x6...

[@fiftyshadesofurban]

@@LastLineOfDefense You sure you're not rich bro? lol

[@rebelops]

oh my first serious mod is portals too!

[@kjimbo5569]

@@fiftyshadesofurbanhe is rich, he just says he didn’t get his money from family (no idea if that’s true or not).

[@TinkerersAdventure]

Totally agree with the missed opportunity of not much auxiliary use for the hybrid battery

[@johnmellyn2700]

That bronze oxide color is AWESOME !,… and I have to admit I was never a fan of the fender trim on the off roads but I think the black looks great with the bronze oxide !

[@YoItsMikeee]

I’ve waited literally 8 months for the EXACT trim and packages I wanted. The premium package on my TRD Off Road is SUPER CLUTCH as a daily driver! Definitely insane the price hike for it but completely worth it

[@saulgarcia3255]

Put a V8 in the 2016 Tacoma!

[@J.Young808]

Nah a D4D JDM 2.8L Hilux diesel engine w/6spd manual or auto

[@saulgarcia3255]

@@J.Young808 manual ! For everything... Everything!!!! But, yes a diesel engine would work for me 😁2.

[@marcochavanne]

​@@J.Young808lots of those are cracking pistons 🥺

[@lucasfu580]

🤣🤣🤣probably even worse than 2.0T PHEV if Tacoma has that powertrain........

[@55jplock]

How about a Kubota Tractor Diesel engine that would be nice

[@Shadowdancer777]

My 2021 pro has everything I need. 360 camera, dual climate, enough power for my needs. ( carry only my guns and small loads.) Plus I have light weight wheels.

[@gabelakey2654]

Agree on the packages and standard equipment though. This is where I think Toyota is taking advantage of their Tacoma fanbase anymore.

[@franciscorangel8904]

That’s one beautiful garage that every man would want for his toys. 🛻 🏍️

[@fidget_rl]

Do you think it would be better to get the off-road premium package instead of the hybrid, If you’re trying save some money?

[@55jplock]

Did you know there is no bump stops on the suspension? How do you think it will be?

[@Obee270]

I can’t believe the 4th gen is so expensive. From jump, I intended on keeping my 3rd for a very long time, but I think I’ll be sticking with it a fair bit longer. If I get fomo, I’ll buy some wheels, boost it with a Maggy kit, and call it a day. My 3rd gen is my first truck and it does everything I’ve needed it to. 95k and counting on my 17’ DCSB

[@mikeylikezit86]

@@Obee270 I'm right there with ya man. The price jump up from a 3rd gen is insane for what you get. I payed 35k for an off road premium and it has everything you want. Let other people take the plunge and regret it later, that turbo 4 banger ain't gonna be as reliable as the v6 they already are having issues

[@nightwing8666]

@@mikeylikezit86times have changed. the price of everything has gone up and doesn’t seem to be going back to pre pandemic levels anytime soon. there are people selling their 2021 trd or for 35-40k used… i think right when the 2025 models come out the 2024 should have heavy discounts on them. 42k otd for a trd off road should be reasonable to pay right now especially when they are offering 3.99 apr

[@michaelfincham2749]

When it comes to new models, aftermarket products are always my first concerns. The amount of aftermarket products I have on my 22 Taco makes it impossible for me to move to a 24 for a few years. Almost 3/4 of the items I use are not available yet. I also like to let the bugs get worked out for the first few years. I live just above sea level, and I have a supercharger on my truck, so power is not a concern.

[@ShaunsJeep]

Nice video Mike but these prices have gotten out of hand.

[@Bryan-it6nu]

Been following your channel since you put the OG diamondback cover on your Tacoma. Glad to see you getting another Tacoma and excited to follow the build! Had to sell mine last year, but hopefully I'll be able to get a new one some day :D

[@EvanK2EJT]

I didn't read through all of the comments, so someone might have already mentioned it, but the dots on the little round cover aren't braille. It's Morse code. It says "accessory ready"

[@syntrax-og]

Could you run the suspension for a bit, just to really test it out. I'd like to know how good/bad it actually is for off-road. Try it for 1 year!

[@smthcrmnal26]

Good info. I am waiting for the off-road w/iForce as well. Might wait a year for any engine bugs to be worked out. I also have a 2017 off-road.

[@kylepark7015]

That garage is bigger than 4 NYC studio apartments combined. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@timcunningham6932]

Daddys $$$$

[@johnb-ke9xi]

did KZbin pay for that?

[@ToyotaTrucksTV]

😂😅

[@ToyotaTrucksTV]

​@jo😂😅hnb-ke9xi

[@BlueSTI]

35s would be sick asf on your new tacoma. I wonder if they need to be regeared for it or if Toyota gave us better stock gears to with the new gen????

[@WOODduck-u2e]

It's a great looking truck I like it, better than any Tacoma design that's been made so far!

[@gregmacklem]

Sadly what we are seeing is $50k is the new entry price and high spec models rapidly go up from there. I have a 2021 Ford F250 and it has more stuff than XLT use to offer, but does not have 360 cameras or dual-zone climate control. My same truck in the 2024 model has gone up $12k in price.

[@murphyslandscape]

Great Video, can't wait to watch the build journey.

[@brandonerlacher4365]

This is a nice looking truck. I am looking forward to seeing your build out. maybe that pocket next to the door is for airtag, although it's a large space. I wish the iForce Max was available with the 6 foot bed.

[@ronmurphy4234]

I have a 2021 Tacoma TRD Pro and have a few questions for you... 1) Is this a direct injection motor? 2) Because the battery replaces the storage, where do you keep the items normally stored there? 3) What's the maintenance schedule for this version? 4) Is Premium gas required? People think the MTM is used for rock crawling, but in reality it's great for every day driving... it automatically activates at low MPH and is great for stop signs, parking lots and any time you need to see in the front of the truck.

[@nicktuttle6777]

Looking forward to Weekenderlander vids with this. Congrats!

[@colterpaustian9790]

Come for the taco's. Stay for the survival reviews. Thanks again for another great video.

[@sumguy-gj7ny]

If they ever add a "Generator mode" like the f150 powerboost has i'd buy this truck in a heartbeat. I just assumed this truck would have it. Very disappointed they skipped on that feature. I'd love to a buy a long bed, a zero breeze, a starlink then have a compact off road RV mobile office daily driver.

[@marcochavanne]

I just looked up what you are talking about and it sounds awesome. Agree it should be a no brainer. Would be a boon for folks like me in Texas with our comically unreliable grid.

[@SayWhen83]

Places Starbucks coffee in door “cup holder” slams door coffee all over truck 😆 love your little side quests you go on when explaining the little doo dads

[@isaacmelendez8202]

I love the honest rant 🤣 I didn’t think about all the extra stuff you’re talking about but when I get my long bed I’ll make sure to ask for those extras ! Thanks Mike

[@harvmac69]

Yeah, that $4000 upgrade may have been the better way to go, but all in all I'm not overly impressed. Its nice but not nice enough for me to leave my '21 yet. Thanks for the video!

[@701overland]

I think the interior on the new tacoma was a huge upgrade especially the seating position

[@VictoriaWargaming]

Aren't the bed outlets hooked into the battery via the inverter?

[@Leighsjor]

That’s what I heard. And X overland said the truck will auto start to recharge the battery if it’s low. Not sure if that’s just a trailhunter feature…

[@codyg2771]

Hey Mike love the videos been watching you for a few years now! If you don’t mind me asking what do you do for a living besides KZbin?

[@dare2fail]

“I don’t chase the clout of a new vehicle that much.” I’m 45 and this guy has twice as many vehicles in his garage than I’ve owned in my entire life

[@MarchHare8]

He’s a car guy that’s a big thing for him. He’s got a hobby and invests in it.

[@LastLineOfDefense]

Most of my vehicles are older, I don't try to get the newest thing and blast out content on it when it's trending. Which was part of the whole explanation for when people ask why I got this now when it's been out for 6 months.

[@dare2fail]

@@MarchHare8 vehicles as an investment… 🤔

[@Stevo9403]

@@dare2fail When you have 432k subscribers on KZbin and the majority of your content is on offroad vehicles, I think you can safely say it is an investment.

[@orisueXtriumvir]

@@dare2fail he makes content with the vehicles so technically they are investments

[@JohnJuan2129]

I want a Tacoma really bad, but also want a hybrid version that can do 30 mpg or better without the turbo. I'm not a fan of turbos. Hopefully It'll come later or in next gen. That color looks gorgeous and everything else is awesome. But the deal breaker for me is the mog. I think with the new battery tech that's being worked on, we should see an improvement 8n the next 3 to 5 years. Keeping my fingers crossed. Another great video as always !

[@RunYourLuck]

I could start a KZbin channel of the things I've bought because of Mike haha

[@user-bs1lj3kv7h]

Would be interested to see if the factory lights are adequate or if extra light bar / driving lights are needed.

[@bueller747]

Just priced this same Tacoma this last weekend. I’d never pay $55k for that little truck. Prices on vehicles these days should be illegal..

[@Thisthat1234]

2024 Trd Pro in my area are going for 38k-41k at the dealers.

[@bueller747]

That’s insane. The TRD Offroad are going for $46k in Oklahoma. Where do you live?

[@wickedbassn]

​@@Thisthat1234where? I don't believe that.

[@Thisthat1234]

@@wickedbassn south Florida, the 4x2 version without tech package. I have a tier 1 credit score ( above 750) and the best they could do was 7.2%. According to dealer the Tacoma historically does not move well for them as most people in that area buy 4Runners and now the Land Cruisers. I left the dealer on a Thursday and they called me 3 times trying to make the deal happen. Never in my life has that happened. It’s just goes to show how they aren’t moving units

[@ChatterboxSS]

@@Thisthat1234 if its 4x2 its not a TRD Pro those are MSRP at 67k. You are talking about a base model SR5, non hybrid, no tech package, with the Trd option which is almost the furthest away you can get from a pro

[@alexgarcia3900]

You're living the life! Sick house and vehicles

[@mikegilkey]

I think it is why people are saying buy a Nissan Frontier. Better Value. Would be awesome for you to compare the two.

[@atg1338]

The Nissan sucks... old a** design

[@amorton94]

@@atg1338 What about the new Frontier is an "old ass design?" I'm genuinely curious. It looks to be a much better value.

[@atg1338]

@@amorton94 old tech old trans old motor =old design duh

[@amorton94]

@@atg1338 That's the main complaint of people hating on the new Tacoma, that it doesn't have the lackluster 4.0 V6 anymore. This is just proof that you can't please everybody. 😂

[@marioa2753]

I know this is off topic but what do you think of the new ranger raptor? Do you think it's a good offroading truck?

[@Bward216]

Did I miss selling the green access cab?

[@LastLineOfDefense]

Yup!

[@misterjetset289]

Your "braille" is actually morse code, and it says "accessory ready". And your "poverty buttons" are the trailer backup assist, camera views, and the auto engine stop cancel (that is not available on any of the hybrids so not so much of a poverty on that one"

[@LastLineOfDefense]

Hmm I wonder what accessory would go in that accessory ready pocket.

[@piercec6912]

I thought I had a problem! With owning a tundra, 4Runner and a Tesla! But you make me feel better! 😂 respect to that fleet

[@BaconCruiser]

I live at 7K’ and also regularly wheel the San Juans. My built out 200 Land Cruiser and GX never need more power. The NA V8s make passing uphill in the mountains a breeze.

[@LastLineOfDefense]

Sounds like you need bigger tires.

[@wesharris07]

Nice truck man! It’s all good bro we live and we learn. I just put an order in for the ranger raptor. It’s a great looking truck.

[@wyatt_taco4]

Is the payload capacity any better than your 2016 (original state)?

[@freddiewouldgo]

From what I was told when I went to go put my down for a TRD off road was that the Advance Technology package was added on to the TRD Premium Package. Also, Hi Mike!

[@vipergts2909]

Nice truck! I’m picking up next week the same truck but in white with the premium package, stabilizer disconnect, spray in bed liner + few other things. They were discounting $2k off msrp. I searched a 500 mile radius for this spec and no other dealership were willing to budge off the msrp.

[@JaySky181]

Do they no longer have LED Strip style DRL’s?

[@lc7192]

I agree. The 360 degree camera system WITH the terrain cameras and the bed camera make all the difference when off-roading. Also the digital rear view mirror is a real advantage as well. The power tail gate no big deal. The soft tech leather is a must as well. The light grey seats will be a bear to keep clean. Sorry you got confused about the ordering details. You have a great channel.

[@jakestickler8613]

3rd gen owner here - do you think it would be more worth it to add a Supercharger to my 3rd gen for ~$8k versus spending money on a whole new truck? My 3rd gen is fully loaded with features and the only think I am unhappy with is as you said, the powertrain.

[@terrynichol577]

New gen is overpriced, there is no other way to put it... Toyota is greedy

[@jbcope1000]

Traded my 21 offroad for a 24. Had the same thoughts about supercharging the 3rd gen, but after test driving it was no contest. Go test drive one.

[@Puddin127]

These prices for a midsize truck with a 4 cylinder engine is absolutely insanity

[@mattdunn8931]

That garage is ultimate goals. 🔥

[@Interpolation1911]

Bro…. Love your Yotas! You’re blessed.

[@mariojamesguzman]

I can’t seem to find anyway to lift up my hybrid seats, anyway you can explain how to in a comment.

[@costcokid]

Since you have the pre-wired accessory switches, you wouldn't need to hook up accessories directly to the starter battery, right?

[@jesusnavarrete6317]

Does the hybrid help the 4 banger engine ?

[@bobdole7701]

I drive them both.I bought the 2024 Frontier PRO4X.

[@sparklander]

For $20K less than the Tacoma TRD Pro. Good work.

[@Liquorpuss]

I got the exact same truck minus the sway bar disconnect. Picked it up 3 weeks ago. More than likely the first one in WV.

[@Nothingactual]

Trailhunter coming out?

[@eigeroverland]

Great point about the hybrid not being able to be used for overlanding DC loads. Perhaps Toyota was thinking the inverter can power an AC to DC transformer.

[@dominicwilkerson]

I have a Trailhunter on order... hopefully it comes standard with several things you have missing.

[@LastLineOfDefense]

Yeah I'm kinda sorta thinking that the trailhunter or the pro might be the move on this gen - if you can stomach that price tag, and don't pay markups.

[@dominicwilkerson]

@@LastLineOfDefense Got a dealer here that doesn't do mark ups, which is why I bought a Supra from them too. It is strange I used to be ok with my 99 Tacoma that would just go anywhere, now I want creature comforts for my achin back and I am not even 40 yet lol.

[@Ben-Dover75]

@@dominicwilkersonalso got a Trailhunter on order bro. Hope you and I are both happy with it when it comes in! Unfortunately I have a dealer markup 😬

[@Joshuaroth-ui3gw]

I think it would be cheaper to just get the TRD Pro or Trailhunter since we will spend another 10-15k on upgrades to get there thoughts?

[@LastLineOfDefense]

Depends what the end goal is - I'd end up removing at minimum the nicer suspension on either of those models. I'd guess the TRD Offroad Premium would still realistically save about $5k for what I'd do. But the Pro or Trailhunter would honestly make sense to a lot of people.

[@patches6903]

Hi Mike, did you sell your van? Thanks for your videos..love ‘em.

[@LastLineOfDefense]

I did!

[@planoman0935]

Love the hybrid but not at the expense of SofTex seats. Those were a must for me! I also wanted the underseat storage.

[@tomm9584]

There is no alternator in a hybrid Toyota Tacoma. You’ve got a 2400 W 120 outlet in the back or you can run anything you want off of that there’s also a bunch of USB ports back there for camping so you’ve got all the accessory power you need with that 2400 W 120 V Inverter which runs off the hybrid, nickel metal hydride battery

[@Michael_Tran]

Looking forward to seeing how this build goes...love that color though!

[@leoramos3482]

Nice Taco. I didn’t know that they offered hybrid with in Bronze oxide? Did u order it through a dealership?

[@Obduro21]

Wait so if you needed a jump start you’d have to pop your back seat?

[@TheReligiousLeft]

Ya off-road premium is the way to go. Did that on our 2022 4runner

[@TsaisRealtyGNY]

The pro gets the option wrong all the time. It's difficult to get it right without your full checklist when you order.

[@EverydayJ1786]

Would love if you released some LLOD 2024 Tacoma patches like you did years ago .

[@LastLineOfDefense]

I may once I have it built up

[@stevenjohnson6998]

I would like to see more content on the 80 series Land Cruiser and the FJ60. Seems like you forgot about those vehicles. But thanks for awesome videos.

[@SGFAdventures]

Think you will ever give a ford raptor a try?

[@badcerealcat4047]

I have the 2024 tundra trd hybrid limited and I can tell u if u like hybrid this truck is absolutely amazing

[@fiftyshadesofurban]

36:44 Actually the system will start the engine automatically when it needs to. The engineer was saying that when you plug something into the AC outlet in the bed of the truck.. It will automatically start the engine if it needs to to charge the battery up, and then turn off the engine once charged. I thought the same thing you did that this system would be amazing for hooking up power for overlanding etc.

[@Guy_in_the_Chair]

Is the Iforce Trd off road worth it coming from an 2009 Tacoma 4.0? Been on the fence since they released the 2024

[@J.Young808]

28:36 one of those blank buttons is for MTM

[@chrisbledsoe702]

I think TRD sport is the best sweet spot honestly the prices after that are crazy if you are buying a Tacoma 4th gen TRD sport is the way to go best price and super nice! The quality compared to the 3rd doesn’t compare on the interior at all. The engine power and torque are outstanding I think the trans will change as the years go on but overall definitely better than the 3rd gen

[@j.b.708]

please keep in mind you don't get MORE power by adding a hybrid system to any given engine. you are simply generating energy ahead of time and using it perhaps when you need it later. there's energy on reserve for a boost, but the total energy in and out is about the same minus conversion loss. yeah, you get a little power from regenerative breaking, but it's not as much power as you used getting the truck moving.

[@nickhoffman1743]

So Toyota gave us 2 options with this new drivetrain. Straight gas Iforce with 276hp OR the hybrid system which essentially integrates the hybrid tech to work with the gas engine. Part of that hybrid system includes an electric motor that produces 48 hp which means total hp on the Iforce Max hybrid setup is advertised as 324 HP....but a hybrid DOESNT add more power? Explain this

[@j.b.708]

@@nickhoffman1743 In this house, we obey the laws of thermodynamics! That power came from somewhere, it came from the gas engine. The gas engine worked harder when you didn't ask it to, to bank power in the battery that the electric motor could draw upon to generate "more power." But that's not really more, it's just power you already generated earlier in the timeline. You didn't magically get more power for free, in fact you lost total power in the end due to multiple conversion losses and even storage loss. And once the battery is empty, there will be NO more electrical boost available until your gas motor replenishes the battery. While the gas motor is replenishing the battery, less power will be available to propel the vehicle. Oh... and the extra mass of the hybrid components makes the hybrid vehicle heavier. Look, I totally get that having an extra 30-40 HP now and then might be nice, but you don't get it after you spent it until you replace it and you didn't get it at no cost. A turbo adds horsepower, a hybrid system does not (for any given gas engine, all other things being equal).

[@LastLineOfDefense]

I think you mean that you don't get FREE power, which obviously nobody disagrees with. The gas engine plus electric motor certainly produce and provide MORE power, as is shown by HP and TQ numbers. The battery system which stores that extra power does generate a good bit for free, via regenerative braking, and the rest it siphons from the gas motor, which is definitely not free.

[@j.b.708]

@@LastLineOfDefense Holy cow dude. The energy you recouped in breaking is less than the energy required to get up to speed in the first place. Those HP and TQ numbers are ONLY valid as long as the battery is charged. The energy to create that charge was taken FROM the engine at the expense of HP that would be used to propel the vehicle. The hybrid system allows you to temporarily bank a little horse power ahead of time. And I get that might be nice in many cases, but it's not "MORE" power. The total power is the same minus conversion losses and loss to a heavier vehicle.

[@4rr44E]

Man, that thing sounded like a rattle can with a leak when you pulled out.

[@zachmulharan9507]

Hyper Dip! Works great and you can peel it off if you want to.

[@BloodManDan24]

I wish Toyota offered more options for the 6ft bed and hybrid. The only way you can get that combination is with the Trail Hunter.

[@sweetpaka]

Chee Hu!!! Right On, congrats on your new truck🤙🏽 Can’t wait to see what mods you do

[@fiftyshadesofurban]

17:36 Yeah, I did a lot of research on the Premium.. You can get the big screen and a few other things without getting the premium but you can't get the 360 camera system without the Premium. I didn't care much about leather but I use the front camera all the time.

[@octane_ape]

We're moving to Colorado in August. Maybe I'll see you wheeling!

[@brianh5393]

I only "liked" your video because you made it! Not because I like the 2024 Tacoma. I look forward to your non biased review. Hopefully, it doesn't break down while you have it!

[@ImStillLooking]

I really appreciate you and the videos you make. I bought a used 2021 Tacoma SR5 4x4 back last year and loving it. I believe buying a vehicle that suits your needs. I got a Tacoma that fits 99% of my needs. I would have gotten a off road if money wasn't a issue but saving 10000 dollars was the right choice.

[@bluecruiser2019]

It might be stupid, but the hand brake on my LC200 is one of my favorite things. Don’t trust a electronic brake🤷‍♂️

[@WoodrowWoods2007]

Trailhunters and TRD Pros will likely street for $20K-$30K over the Off-Road, just like they did for the 3rd Gen

[@Oxinder]

You have to get the $8000 package for duel zone climate.

[@fiftyshadesofurban]

21:55 I dunno about the 2022 Tundra and 2024 Tundra but the Tacoma with the power tailgate and the buttons. I don't like the way they do the tailgate level it's kinda like the fake handle on the passenger side .. Your hand doesn't actually go all the way into the handle, there's a big rubber button on the inside of the handle that your hand just pushes.. I wish it was more just like a regular tailgate handle that you could open manually as well as use the buttons. That kind of makes me not want that feature. but I've never lived with it though, just played with it on the lot.

[@darkdiamond3286]

what do you predict with the longevity of the engine / its capabilities with large tires?

[@LastLineOfDefense]

It can handle large tires better than the 3rd gen - longevity, who knows. I’m sure it’ll be better than people are expecting, but I’m guessing not quite as good as the previous gen.

[@fiftyshadesofurban]

11:43 I haven't driven the Tacoma Hybrid but I've lived with the non-hybrid 4th gen for a month now, and it has all the power I need. I think I mentioned it before, I don't have a problem with the power. And I am not easy to please when it comes to power. I dunno if I would get the hybrid now, coz I can't justify losing the underseat storage space, although to be honest it's a little disappointing that they have humps and stuff with limit the amount of storage back there. I'll follow your build, like that really means anything I always follow your builds but this time it's personal! I'm gonna be following your build as kind of a blueprint for what is possible with mine .. And who knows maybe I'll get a hybrid later.

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

Congrats! Will it be at Expo Mtn West? I’m still content with my 2018 TRD-OR, but can see getting a 4th Gen in a couple years. I think they pretty much nailed everything except the pricing structure, and shrinking the fuel tank size👎🏼. I think I would go for the base powertrain which is still a big leap from the 3rd gen, I really need that under seat storage since my truck is a daily driver.

[@CMarkem]

I want it, and it's in my price capability, problem is they went to mexico manufacturing for better pricing but increased the cost. for the price of a pro you could buy a lexus is 500.

[@LastLineOfDefense]

They been in Mexico for awhile, Tundras are Texas

[@JC-tm6wh]

Wondering how much more rear leg room you lose with the Pros ISO seats compared to yours?

[@johncallahan486]

No folding mirrors on premium