WHICH IS THE BEST COVENANT And How Do You Pick One? | WoW Shadowlands

[@wusenrob]

Venthyr for my blood dk and Night Fae for my balance Druid. Yes, I'm doing all this with aesthetics

[@travisconnor8227]

@zimalin night fae

[@wusenrob]

@zimalin night fae for sure. Though Marksmanship fits everywhere

[@vandermeerkaine9053]

I really want to put my druid in nightfae, just so disappointed in the leather set. It's so awful looking

[@wusenrob]

@@vandermeerkaine9053 tbf yeah it's kind of underwhelming. pretty much only the venthyr armors are cool

[@AlphaSmoke100]

Ya night fae is best for blood dk and venthyer is best for balance

[@texasvoodoo5696]

Picking my covenants based on the xmog, why? I'm a filthy casual who doesn't care about min/maxing. Way more fun way to play. :)

[@redakumaproduction]

This is the way

[@runekjsterud3843]

Preach :)

[@KanetsidohiKanotoush]

Kelani: How do you know your choose the right covenant? Me: I do look great in this transmog! =D

[@delenajewell8171]

I totally agree everyone is recommending Kyrian for my Warlock but I can't make my Warlock look like an angel lol

[@_____J______]

@@delenajewell8171 :( as they recommends me night fae for my frostie mage

[@WASP79]

@@delenajewell8171 My Lock totally looks like an angel (Vengeful Gladiator's Felweave Cowl)...every time I jump that is ...might be a "Dark" Angel but nonetheless Angel ;)

[@justinwhisenhunt7860]

That's what I'm like

[@1112viggo]

@@delenajewell8171 yeah and now its changed to nightfae with bastion as the runner up... what an improvement huh? you can side with either the nature loving gay deers or the ever pious transgender angels. As if warlocks didnt have it bad enough already

[@MarrisaPlays]

one funny thing about the Venthyr area, that bottomless pit has 2 little dudes sitting on a ledge if you get down to the ledge you can push one in and he yells at you haha

[@marlowepup9863]

My forsaken disc priest is an eccentric tree-hugging nature-lover, so she’s going Night Fae! Choosing hers as such because it fits her story, I’m not interested in whatever is BiS, and each person is different, more than just their race or class (though those can be important too of course)

[@RockSplitter]

Don't play a spreadsheet. Pick the covenant you like and roll with it in style.

[@BeowulfGaming]

until you go into m+10 and people tell you you suck because you dont have the meta covenant

[@veljkovidanovic4204]

@@BeowulfGaming sad but true

[@camsmyth101]

I’m doing this I have a great group of friends I can play with so for once I’m going to pick based on theme I like can’t wait.

[@SacredBlazeXxX]

Maldraxus is the only option for Unholy DK s. Any other is objectively wrong. This is the way.

[@nothanksgoodbye]

They're suit the aesthetic most for unholy dks

[@nothanksgoodbye]

They*

[@Kyarrix]

This is the way. No one picked up on your Mandalorian joke. I did though, it wasn't wasted!

[@Goosey_Loosey]

gonna be honest i'm a normie i might just go with whatever covenant thematically fits the class i play.

[@ninja7654]

That’s a whole lot of Kyrian recommendations Which means there’s gonna be a Kyrian nerf coming up

[@ablueberry795]

I'd say that if you aren't a super duper mythic raid progress player/min-maxer, you should be just fine going with the Covenant you want to go with.

[@suisiders7181]

Exactly

[@BeowulfGaming]

except that the convenant differences are heavily affecting your m+ dungeons and we are talking about low keys +5 etc. so you cant really pick what you like unless you are a casual who just does quests and world quests

[@SkyJumpEve]

I was looking at the wrong way. I should pick one that I want to enjoy and not compare it to what’s best for dmg. Thank you!

[@kalgrave497]

i like the RP aspects of each factions and how you would pick for your character, Like i understand going the min maxing route, But fuck that sometimes its fun just to go Fashion/aesthetic craft lol

[@seekersatori212]

Aesthetics, pets and mounts are the real endgame. They are the only thing that lasts after the expansion is over.

[@thedragonflyqueen4462]

Thanks Kelani, i was looking for this type of informative video

[@Disti23]

I feel that Revendreth is actually a good choice for a Paladin. It’s meant to be a realm of redemption and repentance. with Danathrius out of the way it can be returned to that purpose.

[@annemowdy391]

My Paladin is having that friction in choice, too (which I'm not mad about - I like choices!) I love playing with the Kyrian ability, and it just seems like the default Pally choice....but when you really think it through, the purpose of the Venthyr is right up a Paladin's alley. And restoring order to a faction that has fallen apart is just icing on the anima cake. My Paladin is my 2nd alt, so I don't have to decide for a couple weeks, but I'm really struggling about which way to take her. Thematically, she's definitely not a Night Fae, but that wooden plate armor did make me think at least twice about it, lol. I even see why some "Might is Right" Pallies would go Necro. It's not my thing, but I"m glad that this class can really go any way and not feel "wrong."

[@xEllimist]

@@annemowdy391 This is the exact same situation I find myself in. Except my Paladin is my main so I'm even more pressed to figure out my Covenant. Venthyr make sense from the repentance/redemption angle. I'm a sucker for a good redemption arc any way and since my Paladin is a Blood Elf, Kael'thas being present in Revendreth makes the Venthyr even more enticing. I just don't really care for the aesthetics of Revendreth and Venthyr. Kyrian, though.....just feels like THE Paladin covenant. With Uther being present and their emphasis on law and order and surrendering oneself to the "greater good"....I just hate the Kyrian plate. It's sooooo bad to me. Night Fae.....Mostly for the armor. It's the best looking Covenant armor, imo, and the fox mobility ability would be a god send to the normally slow as molasses Paladin. The zone also looks absolutely amazing. My Kul Tiran Druid is definitely going Night Fae

[@Kronical69420]

Im having the same issue with my belf ret pally. The way Ive played her it should be the Necrolords, but they are the weakest and the asthetic doesnt really fit with giant golden wings. Second choice would be Venthyr however thats where my frost mage is going which suits her perfectly. Kyrian look incredible and is powerful, but totally opposite of how I play my character. Id end up with black wings so damn fast. Also not a fan of weird owl things. Night Fae is totally out. So Im kinda at a loss.

[@latindwarf8173]

@@Kronical69420 Honestly, I will probably go Necrolords with my Dark Iron Paladin. Defender of the Blackrock mountain in life and defender of Shadowlands in death.

[@RetroHoodie82]

Really awesome video. Most people are only talking about which gives you the best raid dps and such. I dont raid so its nice to hear what other things each covenant will provide.

[@Msbubu]

I'm going nightfae on pally just because I like the mog lol I don't really care

[@builder5008]

Same reasoning too lol

[@DoylePTB]

The transmog is one of the things making me want to go Night Fae as plate.

[@Nickthepug]

yeah i have a gnome mage... i feel like he'd be a good fit with night fae

[@FirstLast-xk6fd]

I wish I could play so wrecklessly and still have fun XD

[@SmugCanadian]

Same and the spirit form will help with the mobility.

[@Paldinix]

Necrolord Unholy-DK there is no other choice!

[@gixxie117]

you always have a choice, if u let the game decide for you oh well..

[@Paldinix]

@@gixxie117 Its more meant in a way that for me there is no other choic, cause i think it fits the best. If i would play Blood- DK the Ventyr would be better thematicly. Everybody should choos freely what fit´s them best

[@akira7752]

I feel like canonically the best covenants for each classes would go like this (just my opinion): Bastion: Priest and Paladdin (obviously) Ardenweald: Druid, Hunter, Shaman and Monk Revendreth: Demon Hunter, Mage and Warlock Maldraxxus: Warrior, Rogue, Death Night

[@GenjiShimada.]

Wouldn't be surprised to find Anubis walking around laughing like maniac while drinking coffee in Kyrian Cov lol

[@acadarin1409]

Wildhammer Dwarf Night Fae Shaman (complete with blue tattoos). Thanks for all your championing, Kelani!

[@johnsgrays9429]

I have lots of characters so I’m going ALL. One each cov so that’s the best way to Xmogs and mounts etc

[@owlsdragons906]

Thank you for this overview - informative, elegantly worded and with a wink. Pity I was already subscribed. :-)

[@markmikolay9019]

I'm excited for my night fae tauren paladin. I think blessing of the seasons fits great with the sunwalker class fantasy, it looks very fun and thematic!

[@niz392]

The nice thing is they are all so cool you can't really mess it up.

[@pascalhanke7572]

I still don't know, how important the choice is. I play warlock and i love revendreth, but it seems to be the worst choice. But when does it come up? Only in pregress raiding? Or do i even alck dmg in heroic dungeons?

[@salohcinyeliw4086]

My undead disc priest is going venthyr and staying there permanently no matter what. My vulpera arcane mage will be going night fae because I like the way the zone looks.

[@SarajevoShotz]

Also their ability is great for Arcane mage, which is also why I am going night fae

[@mindblower93]

Venthyr for my warlock. Venthyr for by Blood Knight Paladin. Kyrian for my Ally Pally and probably for my spriest too. Necro for my DK. Hunter and Drood for night fae. Warrior, probably night fae, same with shaman. DH will probably go for Kyrian cause I really like the leather set from them. Rogue will go Venthyr. I'm unsure about my mage.

[@CTViewer07]

For me, It's tricky because I tend to multispec since I'm not only trying to find the covenant that gives the best bang for my class, but also offers flexibility if I want to hop onto a tank or healer role with hybrid classes like Paladins, Monks, and DHs or subroles with Hunter (Marksman & Survival) and Mages (Fire, Ice, Arcane).

[@clee888]

so how do you choose a covenant? like literally what person do you talk to? where at? or what do you do?

[@aaronrothwell7615]

Chose my covenant? I can't even decide which class I want to play yet. I usually switch each expansion and am leaning heavily towards brewmaster monk, but shadow priest is a lot of fun too!

[@psionicdongpunch]

I feel that pain! I've spent the past month levelling one of everything, now it's the 11th hour and still not committed to anything. Think I'mma just go BM hunter tho, since I haven't played a pure dps class as a main in over a decade!

[@ryans3795]

To be honest, I thought kyrians and night fae were unappealing. Now they have some of the coolest zones, mounts, and armor. So they 2 characters that I will likely main one will be kyrian and one will ne night fae. I do plan on doing all 4, they will just be alts for the other 2.

[@grumpyoldwizard]

I am coming back for SL, but the covenants give me flashbacks to BC. Just having two factions in that XP could be a pain if you needed something from the other; with four I could imagine it being a nightmare. Thanks for the video. You answered some questions I didn’t even know I had!

[@melissakmiddleton]

What about CONVOKE? It’s like the best thing about night fae and not mentioned? Were all the spells like this left out? I just got to try that and don’t remember the ones before it offering me such a thing. In any case I’m Druid so I need to be night fae 😄

[@darxelsey]

Hey, i just started Wow again and now i saw all these cool transmogs.. is there a guide or info on how to start with this ? Do i have to change timeline with chromie and go ?

[@MetoraB]

I can't decide what covenant to choose as a Priest, I like the aesthetic of the Kyrians, but their ability is just so horrible I can't force myself to play that for 2 years. Like a 3 min cd that forces me to push a single button for 15 seconds straight and be on melee range as a ranged class instead of playing priest. I don't know what to do, I want to multispec, send halp

[@MustardGamings]

Kyrians are for tanks

[@techchaos]

Took me 2 and half days to hit 60 and now to finish the story to figure where to put my hunter i have no clue yet. Two covenants I like at the moment. I'm starting to see they took the concept of wod and legion to make it more user-friendly. The graphics that make the moths in night fae area are so detailed i was amazed. The storyline so far for me was very emotional excited and then sad to amazed. Blizzard hit alot on this expansion than they did in a long time.

[@foolsanticsstudio]

Whoever gives out the coolest mount. That’s how I choose lol

[@JonathanSirico]

Word.

[@marshallmcelmurry7087]

@ AROUND 13:50..... I'm thinking Kyrian going to see the nerf bat soon... 😳

[@TelepathicVoyeur]

I'm on an RP realm so I'm making my choices based on my characters' personalities, for instance my Tauren DK is joining the Night Fae because he was a shammy before being raised and is seeking to re-establish his connection to nature he lost.

[@dennisforbes2532]

But...But... Having a Tauren DK in the first place is just wrong on so many levels lol

[@rickdemut8792]

Thank you for the video! BM Hunter here wondering what quest is needed to complete before you can get into a Covenant ? I do not the Covenant vendors in The Enclave!? Thanks in advance..

[@trevorcherry9399]

If we switch at at any given time does that mean we have to relevel the renown etc? Re do the quest line?

[@SignsOfKelani]

Join us LIVE at www.twitch.tv/kelanitv for crazy launch week streams. Every day, many hours. Be there! Wowhead page for best covenants for each spec - www.wowhead.com/news=319334/best-covenant-recommendations-for-shadowlands-dps-tanks-and-healers-updated-for-

[@catmanjin]

wowhead page is outdated

[@sleepyli4653]

what covenant is best for ele shaman do you think?

[@ewanjacksonmusic]

Dude, the wowhead page was last updated 4th November, way before the Kyrian nerf. Sharing it is very very bad on your part right now.

[@justinparker7712]

Was hoping to get some insight on the abilities and relative power levels, kinda disappointed to see the 13th video on the Nightfae being the nature people type of info.

[@Crazyhorrse]

I'm pretty sure the one thing we all know more than anything is the general themes of the covenants, and wow, that's the only stuff we heard about in that long ass video. Well and about 5 seconds of telling us to go read Wowhead if we want to know anything. One of the worst vids out there tbh.

[@marlowepup9863]

There are thousands of “which covenant is BiS for each spec” videos, to the point where it’s hard for me to find covenant videos that AREN’T about that, not to mention it’s all anyone talks about for the last several months, with charts and spreadsheets galore; so I’m glad when themes and lore and such are brought up

[@justinparker7712]

@@marlowepup9863 that's fine and I like those videos too, good thing kelani has 12 of those already to watch

[@Twincobra13]

So I would get the most use out of a goblin glider in Maldraxxus?

[@psionicdongpunch]

Asking the real questions

[@doomguy676]

here is my thought process. "Does this look pretty on my (Insert class i'm playing here)"

[@borismanev2353]

Nice video, I guess i'll pick Necrolords for my BrM who will use mainly for m+. Also I love creepy caves, bonecollecting ftw, lol :D

[@adnank1952]

Question of the century. Are the Shadowland covenant abilities usable in rest of Azeroth??

[@zoma1990]

yes they made it usable at the end after everyone complained

[@ethanq7098]

i have a night elf beast mastery hunter, night fae just seems like the best one to go no matter what way i think about it lol

[@armedjester81]

Monk going night fae for the foot stomp. My other 3 alts can argue over the left overs.

[@Arrow352]

I'm planning to have one character in each covenant: Hunter - Nightfae, Paladin - Kyrian, Shaman - Venthyr, and Demon Hunter - Necrolord, but man I am not vibbing with the Necrolord aesthetic.

[@GoadedGoblin]

Venthyr for two major reasons. 1. Best aesthetics. 2. Least obnoxious NPC voices and interactions. As much as I would like my Pally to be Kryian, I find them all quite annoying. Not nearly as annoying, however, as the God Forsaken Night Fae. Holy shit, I've never wanted to leave the zone of a brand new expansion more in my life.

[@FourLetterWurdz]

Man I thought I was gonna go necrolord unholy dk.. but I kinda fell in love with venthyr. VAMPY DEAD NECRO YA BAYBEE. Next is kyrian lightforged hunter.

[@EleosGames]

Just play whatever you want and like, stop taking this game so serious, it does not matter if you keep up with everyone. Do what you want and take it casually.

[@0ihatetrolls01]

Some people don't like that though

[@cousinrolf871]

@@0ihatetrolls01 That attitude is what is killing the game

[@0ihatetrolls01]

@@cousinrolf871 huh? people being able to do what they want is killing the game? Who cares what some min maxer does it doesn't affect me

[@cousinrolf871]

@@0ihatetrolls01 No no, the idea that you should forego your own choice because it's not "BiS". Making a choice like this shouldn't make it harder for you to find groups to do group content. You should be free to choose what you think sounds/looks the best to you

[@EDITMODE]

5:07 horse noticed he was on camera :P

[@Nick-rl8pn]

Did they fix the issue with weapon xmog renown rewards not matching the renown transmog armor?

[@maxmcintyre5068]

I’m just choosing covenant based on transmog for my characters I’m not too concerned about endgame raiding to care

[@josiepittman9681]

I have an affliction warlock and I want to pick night fae lol

[@Arnmazing23]

Damn what if I switch specs often like which ever role my homes need?

[@dusk1947]

Night Fae, it will always be Night Fae. Because Druid Transmog and gardens. My question will be: what should my alts play?

[@Metathrom]

Necro warlock ftw, make room for my lich pharaoh transmog with fel crystal on the back.

[@neonnyx]

Wait, how far in the expansion do I have to actually get to in order to choose one? I'm stuck in Bastion right now and just received a gift from that angel lady who doesn't believe that I'm alive. I've been playing for about four hours now. Bit confused. I'm on the second chapter in the story so I don't know if I have to complete every chapter for every area or what? I'm only lvl 52 so maybe I need to go max?

[@macnpro1]

You have to finish the story quests for all 4 areas and be lvl 60

[@neonnyx]

@@macnpro1 Oh alright, thanks

[@CorpseDaddy]

I think I cool thing blizzard should do is give you the option to change the appearance of your abilities based on your convenant. Like how destro locks and have green fire for their abilities. So if you chose necro lords your abilities would look more nectrotic. I just think that would be a cool thing to do

[@alexandermilosevic_]

Hey, when you unlock armor theough the renown system do you unlock only your current class' armor type? Or all 4 armor types for other characters?

[@Assywalker]

Just one. Also, Covenant mogs can not be used on characters of a different Covenant, so unlocking them wouldn't do much.

[@blackspiders741]

Finally a good explanation video. Kelani FTW.

[@joncoish]

I’m prob going venthyr on hunter even though it seems flayed shot is the worst ability damage wise right now. I just love everything else about the covenant, and even the ability sounds cool and fun. Assuming Blizzard are going to be balancing things throughout the expansion, numbers will change anyway.

[@luke2929]

I'm going bastion as old orc hunter. And also night fae with some i dunno yet char. And that's it.

[@SuperDuperSigmaMale]

Im rocking with the necrolords.

[@dbldekr]

I love that most these commments are talking about transmog and not power level.

[@Badone816]

Is that a good or bad thing?

[@raxzar]

casual trash players yea

[@Truvidien]

Do you choose the back or is it a set? Like if I'm a Mage can I get the wings from Kyrian?

[@JockScrapDraws]

so possibly stupid comment here but ive just hit 60. so what do i do to choose a covenant?

[@roostertwo5893]

Would going nightfae on my shaman be a waste since I have ghost wolf?

[@JayDoRaD0]

this is what I've been waiting for :-)

[@daburgerbandit1598]

I need 16 characters... One of each armor type for each covenant, so I can collect all of the transmog sets.

[@Shmiite]

That’s a lot of work but good luck to you

[@jetah50]

1 covenant isn't enough to last us 2 years. i really believe we'll unlock a second then all 4 throughout the expansion.

[@TheNzFox]

there is also a real chance you don't need to unlock each armor type, while not outright confirmed a lot of the text and things the devs have said suggest you unlock "kyrian armor" not "kyrian mail armor", meaning as long as one of your toons have the rep anyone can their armor transmog (come the end of the expansion when its been flat out said they will remove the 'needs to be in the covenant' restriction). Do not quote me on this, as, as I said its not been absolutely confirmed, but it is something to keep an eye on as then you only need 4 toons not 16

[@prekljucovic5684]

Video starts at 13:39, you’re welcome.

[@bxb26]

Thank you so much!

[@royvannieuwkoop6348]

Hi I have a question, if I choose one covenant and obtain some mounts and gear and I decide to change covenant, does that mean that I lose the mounts and transmogg gear and stuff?

[@Bakuganmaster1001]

yes

[@zofiaborek9171]

You don't lose them. They are unavailable until you return to the covenant.

[@a.f.warrick0404]

Great overview! One question I have is whether each class needs to conform to the caste system for each covenant, e.g. can my DK go to Bastion and join the Kyrians? Can a Priest join the Necrolords, etc.?

[@henrikh3089]

You can join which ever you want

[@annemowdy391]

Me, playing through the Beta leveling story: Ooh, I definitely want to be a Night Fae...maybe a Venthyr, but probably NF! I love their story and aesthetic! Every guide: You should go Necrolord...maybe Kyrian, but probably NL! They're better for your class! Me, about to enter the SL and make my final choice: Eh, I'm probably still going NF or Venthyr regardless...It can't gimp me that bad, huh?

[@TheNzFox]

my plan is 'which skill do i enjoy the most when i get to test it while leveling' :P

[@meganziegler3968]

Kryian best for Warlock? Doesn't make sense lol. Sticking to Necro or Venth.

[@marshallmcelmurry7087]

Recent adjustments suggest night fae is best for lock... Still doesn't fit... I'm going necrolord I think... I'll decide while leveling....

[@peterbundy84]

Haha! Can't wait to see the Kyrian Warlocks!! :D

[@DarkinsTV]

Thats me lol..

[@fishraposo7192]

An ardenweald frost DK is basically a lord of the winter

[@Bougsiminator]

I'm a mythic progress Raider, the question "which is the best covenant?" is easy to answer for me: the one that gives me the most DPS/HPS/Survivability^^

[@sentofwinter]

Yup, though as discussed in the mythic community. There is also the dangers of nerfs/buffs ever patch to covenants, and thats my biggest fear, switching covenants every raid tier.

[@condotiero860]

@@sentofwinter which isnt untenable actually. Like if you are switching covenants for the rewards you'll never get them. But you can switch covenants every two weeks and have access to their abilities. That's doable.

[@sentofwinter]

@@condotiero860 if you switch to another one, don't you first need to grind out the renown for that covenant. As far as I understand it is that you first have to get all covenant to renown 40 before its easier to swap em out and get the full benefit of the conduits etc etc

[@Mrlundtube]

@SignsOfKelani where is the spreadsheet? :P

[@vandermeerkaine9053]

Transmog is the deciding factor for me. Just bummed that I don't like any of the leather sets. All trash, maldrax one is ok i guess. But first xpac where I'll actually be playing 4 toons

[@91mattias]

how and when do i choose COVENANT?? do i need to complete the storyline damn fuck

[@decaphragm]

Can you wear mogs of previous covenants you've switched away from??

[@starlord157]

Apparently no.

[@Anxeas1]

great video, as always :)

[@rhiome]

Does this mean if my questing mate is Kyrian and Im Necro, we cant level together?

[@adimarzero4893]

Nah I believe you pick covenants at lvl 60, before that you can use any of the abilities if you are in the zone and can level with anyone

[@trevorcherry9399]

I think I'll go kyrian for my prot pally Night fae for my monk or druid not sure yet Demon hunter will go necrolord

[@hk55pinkfloyd]

A warlock not being attuned to either necro-lords or venthyr makes literally no sense aesthetically...

[@mridahokrieg6114]

So... These covenants are pretty much cosmetic? Ones not better than the other game-play wise?

[@sirfinley9355]

Hey folks! This is salami

[@IMaz-wq3ce]

dead meme

[@mattenojd5221]

this helped alot. thank you.

[@feliperzeppa3826]

5:06 GREEN FLAMES!!!! oh, wait, wrong video

[@Fox250R]

What would be the best for Outlaw?

[@Solojinwooleveling]

What’s good covenant for frost mage?

[@camsmyth101]

I’m picking the themes I like the best. I would hate being in one I dislike just for some dps

[@joejones6968]

I chose Revendreth, for my Spriest. It fits the motif...

[@claytonmurrayguitar]

I feel like my panda monk just won’t fit in in any covenant 😂

[@Kaspare]

I have the same problem :D I think of going NightFae though. The Stopm just looks amazing and I'm not that hardcore anymore so I really don't care which Covenant does more dmg/healing.

[@CarltonCYuro]

Im playing Windwalker Monk this expac as my main, i plan on going night fea regaurdless of BiS cause i want to enjoy the fealine stomp and ascetics of fea.

[@Scratchyness]

My panda monk likes to be in Night Fae :)

[@Orgrimmar21]

Kyrian or Night fae. Kyrians are devoted warriors, kinda like monks.

[@gethygethy]

I had the same problem with my frost DK. Ended up going Night Fae for that AoE attack and because I liked story

[@sandrogzirishvili6800]

What do i pick for unholy dk pvp? It only says pve...

[@user-bu7nv9gn4o]

Currently necrolord for the abomination limb

[@fipeke]

You spent 18 minutes talking about things we all already knew about covenants before telling us you don't know which one is the best for each class? Alright so that was a complete waste of my time then.

[@Omega_thehusky]

my choice was the night fae second kyrian atleast i got one of those for best dps cant complain its a bit sad night fae isnt the best for hunter though big rip lol