Which is the best sports tourer? 2022 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT vs Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX | MCN

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2 жыл бұрын

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We're pitching the 2022 Suzuki GSX-S1000GT against the Kawasaki Ninja 1000SX in a battle of the conventional sports tourers. It's a two-day shootout, with riders Michael Neeves and Dan Sutherland heading to the Peak District from MCN HQ. Read the full reviews on both bikes below.
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@mcardwell007
@mcardwell007 2 жыл бұрын
Turn the music down and let's hear the motors.
@shawnpark7620
@shawnpark7620 Жыл бұрын
Ya don't need the manly dick-swinging music...
@swishswish386
@swishswish386 Жыл бұрын
Agreed 👍
@andrewrogers3240
@andrewrogers3240 10 ай бұрын
Yes!
@slimdowndaddy7919
@slimdowndaddy7919 10 ай бұрын
I agree with you man
@mpdjr77
@mpdjr77 6 ай бұрын
Yep, that’s what I’m talkin’ about.
@jamesmiller-sk1xe
@jamesmiller-sk1xe 2 жыл бұрын
Good comparison. 3 things keep me on the Kawasaki. The adjustable windscreen, having both headlites on both dim and bright, and the rear shock adjustment is so much easier on the Kawasaki. Add to that at age 72, I did 850 mile ride with friends to the Moto gp race in Austin, Tx several yrs ago. And did it in comfort.
@jamesmiller-sk1xe
@jamesmiller-sk1xe 2 жыл бұрын
That was in 1 day on the way home the next day after the race.
@leroyjones769
@leroyjones769 2 жыл бұрын
Nice 👍
@noeagosto9231
@noeagosto9231 2 жыл бұрын
@@jamesmiller-sk1xe You sir, are awesome! I hope to that one day with my brother. But a broken Harley and a R1 are hardly the right combo to Austin. Anyway, cheers!
@justinneill5003
@justinneill5003 Жыл бұрын
Hats off to you sir. I also ride a Z1000SX but it kills my wrists after 200 miles. Either my riding position is bad or I need bar risers!
@ryannafe9252
@ryannafe9252 Жыл бұрын
You really shouldn’t be putting any weight on your wrists unless you’re doing hard braking. Your legs (downward pressure on the pegs and inward pressure against the tank) and your core (clenching ab muscles) keep your bodyweight off the bars.
@UFGgamings
@UFGgamings 2 жыл бұрын
These are the types of reviews we want MCN, keep 'm coming!
@1MrBryn
@1MrBryn 2 жыл бұрын
Really want this category to make a comeback. The ADV style ones, although practical, just don't have the curb appeal for me.
@MrBenHaynes
@MrBenHaynes 2 жыл бұрын
I ride my bike, not stand on the kerb looking at it.
@1MrBryn
@1MrBryn 2 жыл бұрын
@@MrBenHaynes there's plenty of bikes that I can ride all day AND look cool as hell. You don't have to pick one or the other.
@mickeypopa
@mickeypopa 2 жыл бұрын
@@1MrBryn That's very true. Personally, I buy a bike with both my eyes and my heart. It's gotta be a full package or I simply look elsewhere. In this day and age with so many brands and models available, one doesn't have to settle.
@rochmel1409
@rochmel1409 2 жыл бұрын
@@mickeypopa I 100% agree. I bought a VFR which did everything I needed on the road but absolutely nothing to my heart when I looked at it. It was only after I'd bought it that I realised how important that was and part exchanged it for a Z900RS which looks stunning to my eyes. But of course I still need a sports tourer😂
@mickeypopa
@mickeypopa 2 жыл бұрын
@@rochmel1409 Good for you buddy! Glad you found what you were looking for. And don't worry about the sports tourer, a perfect one will eventually come along - you just gotta do the research. 😉
@TeslasSecret
@TeslasSecret 2 жыл бұрын
Lovely to see those sport tourers getting a bit of the limelight back. I can't bear ADV bikes and tall-rounders, so it's great to see that some other solutions to the touring/sports riding equation exist.
@snakeman9902
@snakeman9902 2 жыл бұрын
💯, I actually class the bikes you mentioned as adventure tourers, not sport tourers.
@davidfletchfletcher
@davidfletchfletcher 2 жыл бұрын
Went from an adv tourer to the Ninja and SO pleased 18 months later...
@TeslasSecret
@TeslasSecret 2 жыл бұрын
@@davidfletchfletcher So am I ! I'm much earlier in my ownership of the Ninja and I came from an R Nine T (R1250RS before that) but I'm really pleased thus far. I've tried many tall-rounders, and even rented a 1250GS for a few days but none felt as easy to manage in town and as connected to the road as the Ninja. They're not complete do-it-all machines, but they're really quite good at what they do.
@splodge5714
@splodge5714 2 жыл бұрын
And these two actually look nice unlike every ADV bike out there.
@ventisette.
@ventisette. 2 жыл бұрын
Adventure bikes these days are just 2 wheeled SUVs. Most of them will never even see a drop of rain and are too heavy for offroading anyway.
@lovelessissimo
@lovelessissimo 2 жыл бұрын
The comparison that the world has been waiting for.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын
Perfectly agree. Drop by buddy, you may find it interesting.
@racerdaveracerdave
@racerdaveracerdave 2 жыл бұрын
Absolutely. Terrific bikes and a titanic match up for specs, performance, price
@roadwarrior8560
@roadwarrior8560 2 жыл бұрын
test ride the bike yourself, don't listen to some bullshit on youtube.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын
@@roadwarrior8560 That is the most practical and useful solution.
@nickthequick
@nickthequick 2 жыл бұрын
@@roadwarrior8560 what prompted the "bullshit" part here? Are you perhaps a happy owner of the Suzuki?
@ridingwithsam
@ridingwithsam 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve just got myself a SX after owning an MT10 after 2 years, also my first sports tourer. Wow, what a bike. Maybe not as bonkers as the MT, but still hits triple figures without trying, handles like a sports bike, buttery smooth and decent wind protection, particularly when you tuck in.
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom 11 ай бұрын
What do you think, better with the inline 4 revs, or the 270° MT-10 torque ?
@ridingwithsam
@ridingwithsam 11 ай бұрын
@@R.Stridstrom Hard to say as they're so different. Town riding and lower speeds I'd say inline 4. The CP4 is very clunky and rough at low revs, rides and sounds like a twin. However as soon as opened up the MT10, the inline 4 can't compete with the torque and soundtrack. I do really miss my MT10 and regret selling it.
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom 11 ай бұрын
@@ridingwithsam Yeah, i know they are completely different. Easier to dose, the regular i4's (as you say, the x-plane 270° crank i4 is like a twin). I personally like the predictability of regular ones. It takes off higher up, and i like the howling, but that is my temper speaking, im sure. The 10 is more brutal, but less civil if you would actually want that. Jumpy. But fast, you cant really tell how fast unless you look at the guages... It doesnt sound as fast as it is :) Fun but dangerous on regular roads. I like the i4 better because of the fact you can choose. Also i did think i sat a bit high on the 10, than on a Suzuki, for example, much higher center of gravity, noticeable when flicking. But on the other hand the 10 feels safe, stable, but brutal - a bit schizo if you like. I get why some love it. Just curious how you experienced the shift. A Suzuki S1000 got as much or more grunt a lot of the way, unrestricted, but they are severely restricted on a lot of the gears, and i bet they have made them like they behave by design. Safety reasons or what not. Euro restrictions possibly, but you could unrestrict them. If you want more brutality. Im sure its the same with the Kwak.
@Supernova12034
@Supernova12034 10 ай бұрын
@@ridingwithsam interesting... How do you find the ninja 1000 in the really tight and twisty stuff? Chore to chuck it around?
@ridingwithsam
@ridingwithsam 9 ай бұрын
@@Supernova12034 not at all, it handles its weight very well.
@PaulA-dl7hs
@PaulA-dl7hs Жыл бұрын
Interesting comments about this bike. I have the Suzuki and have 6500 miles on it and feel I made the right choice. Here is my comments: First off, the front brake pads they came with are absolute Junk! I replaced them at 800 miles along with the tires which I switched to Michlin Road 5 GT tires. That improved the feel for the road, along with better traction and mileage. Front tire still looks like new, but rear is starting to wear in the middle. Probably get Michlin Road 6 standard for next set. Stock seat was horrible. Switched to optional Suzuki "style seat" and all day comfort now. Love it. Windscreen is OK. Tried the touring screen. Hated it, went back to stock, and will probably go to a Puig once they come out. The bike has a very comfortable position for a 6'1" 215 lb rider. I added a tuner to the bike and it made the motor pretty near perfect. unfortunately, you can't buy this tuner, as it couldn't meet the latest standards for emissions. i've gone 155 mph with the bags on, so it's pretty fast for a sport tourer, and that was 5th gear at 1000 rpm under redline. The low end power is great as well as a ferocious top end. It feels a little lighter than the Kawasaki and the suspension is pretty decent although it could be even better. Just a set of EBC HH pads up front made the stock brakes very linear, no abs issues ever, and you can ride in second gear at 100+mph or 6th gear at 65 mph, and the shifter is magic. Up or down, no clutch. A mode is sport bike agressive, and B mode is good for high speed cruising. If I had the money, I would probably get a set of lighter wheels, full exhaust (for weight reduction), a better rear shock, and that would about do it. I use the bags for touring and take them off for sport riding.
@jerseycitymuaythai
@jerseycitymuaythai 2 жыл бұрын
Had every type of hyper naked, sports tour , Harley ,bike etc over past 15 years.. got the ninja sx- first Japanese bike.. my most favorite bike I’ve had- City commute during the week, 3 hour rides on weekend to weekend home through the mountains.. 6’4 tall, 200 lbs.. no wind buffet, great gas mileage, smooth motor, reliable… first bike I’ve kept over a year… doubt I’ll get rid of for a long time unless they come up with a higher power version..
@slicknick0097
@slicknick0097 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison video. I’m still 100% committed to getting the Suzuki when it come to the US soon. I had the 2016 GSXS naked bike. Put 64k miles on it and can’t wait to get back on a sporty Suzuki
@3kdn
@3kdn 2 жыл бұрын
I have rode both these bikes and decided to buy the Suzuki, change the tyres and what a difference it will make. In my opinion if you more touring then yes the Kawasaki is the bike, but if like me, you want a sports bike with comfort with the odd trip or two then the Suzuki is the one. The Gixer engine and the short gearbox is what makes the Suzuki rock for the majority of my riding. And unless you pay a grand more the Kawasaki performance model, the sound of the Suzuki stock exhaust wins hands down. Having road the SX1000 for a year, the Suzuki gear box also has the edge in my opinion.
@dardobartoli
@dardobartoli 2 жыл бұрын
Great lunchtime viewing thank you for sharing. For anyone who cares, I own the 2020 SX and test rode the GSX recently for a couple of hours. Basically Neeves sums them both perfectly. Normally, when you try a brand new version of something you own, it will always feel better, newer, posher, etc and leave you with the dilema of 'upgrading' However, as Michael states, it really felt the other way round. The Ninja is 'refined' whilst the Suzuki felt worn out .. The only obvious advantage with the GT is that clock/dashboard. Getting back on the Kawasaki the dashboard looked almost comical, but after a few minutes.... who cares.
@amit.shrimali
@amit.shrimali 2 жыл бұрын
Real world comparison of two most practical & versatile inline four sport tourers!!! Wow have been waiting for it since long time ... its Suzuki for me.!!
@spiritriderjk
@spiritriderjk 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent filming, INCREDIBLE shots, so well put together! You guys have outdone yourselves again.
@shadowred1980
@shadowred1980 2 жыл бұрын
More like this please, Dan and Neeves make a great duo.
@nickthequick
@nickthequick 2 жыл бұрын
especially when Neeves stays in the background so to obscure the difference in size between the two 😁
@amerigo88
@amerigo88 7 ай бұрын
About mid-videi, I found this a very difficult review to follow. "This one" , "that one", "it" and so on with barely noticeable gestures to indicate which bike was being described. If I still cared, I would have to watch at least two more times to follow the comparison. Definitely not a video for just listening while doing other things.
@Lasergun74
@Lasergun74 2 жыл бұрын
OMG, wish a Triumph will soon get (back) in this game! The Sprint ST 1050 was so good that we deserve a new gen with the almighty new 1200cc.
@skylinesquid
@skylinesquid 2 жыл бұрын
Yes! I have a 2005 sprint st 1050 and im passing up r1s and zx10s in the corners all day its awesome! Im exited about the speed rr but its more of a sport bike. You can check the sprints top speed on my channel
@Lasergun74
@Lasergun74 2 жыл бұрын
@@skylinesquid I know mate, I still own a 2006, still the one with lower clip-ons pre-2007, and it’s still a blast! I sat on a Speed rr but the riding position is too sporty and cramped for my taste. If nothing happens in a couple years I will go for the naked Speed rs, but I still hope for a new Sprint. Unfortunately I can’t bear the upright position of the Tiger adv either.
@Lasergun74
@Lasergun74 2 жыл бұрын
@@peterfallows6802 i don’t know, ADVs are not my cup of tea, I would never buy a Tiger. Test ridden a few among friends, even tested the “mythical” BMW GS, but nope, me no like! I crave a new proper triple sport tourer, make it a little less “focused” speed rr with a more relaxed riding position and a slightly bigger fairing. Doesn’t matter if it will weigh in a few Kgs more.
@Arryhall
@Arryhall 2 жыл бұрын
I had a 2004 ST and rode that all over the place and had it not been for a car/wall interface, I'd still have it. My mate has a 2007 ST 1050 and it is awesome. I now have a Blackbird but the roll on and the sound of his triple is awesome. All day comfort and performance and incredible sound. No idea why they changed it to the GT which just wasn't as good and no manufacturer makes bikes like that now so these 2 are as close as you can get now. If a new triple ST comes out, I may very well be tempted.
@wolfiestreet6899
@wolfiestreet6899 2 жыл бұрын
The ST 1050 had many endearing features and was a fantastic charasmatic ride (especially with the trident exhausts!) But reliability and quality let it down for me. Doesn't hold a candle to the Kawa on that front.
@Vegesaurus7
@Vegesaurus7 2 жыл бұрын
Nice work guys. Love the cinematic shots. Great review of the bikes.
@shanejan441
@shanejan441 Жыл бұрын
Cracking review guys!! Exactly what I needed. Love the unbiased feedback on both bikes . Such a hard decision. Cheers from Australia.
@chrisgee7631
@chrisgee7631 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video. I’ve been waiting to see which would come out tops from you guys 👍
@duncanharvey2209
@duncanharvey2209 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review. Thank you for the time taken to explore them head to head. I just got my Ninja 1000sx two weeks ago and it really is an astonishing blend of smoothness, power, comfort and amazing looks. I previously had a Triumph Sprint ST so the bar was high. Everyone keeps using the word "smooth" to describe the sx. And really that is the only way to describe it. It's so easy to ride at walking speed but then has a point on the throttle where it takes you to huge power and endless acceleration. Everything is just so easy. And I could look at it all day 🙂
@user-wu2sk3lf3i
@user-wu2sk3lf3i 2 жыл бұрын
Being a Ninja 1000SX (MY 21) owner, agree with you totally!
@tinsje11
@tinsje11 2 жыл бұрын
Endless acceleration with just 140 ponies? 🤨
@duncanharvey2209
@duncanharvey2209 2 жыл бұрын
@@tinsje11 Well it's zero to 200 in 10.something so unless you're often travelling at 250 plus, then yes 140 is more than enough for a sports tourers 😅
@kwakithailand
@kwakithailand Жыл бұрын
​ Unless you are riding the German Autobahn, 140 horses are plenty good enough to send your driver's license for a months long holidays (in some retard countries even you yourself) 😁
@mbal4052
@mbal4052 Жыл бұрын
@@tinsje11 ✊🏻💦
@tHaH4x0r
@tHaH4x0r 2 жыл бұрын
Finally! I was looking forward to this review for a long time.
@theincrediblesulk5543
@theincrediblesulk5543 2 жыл бұрын
Great job guys excellent comparison done over a few days and excellently presented.
@thephorest
@thephorest Жыл бұрын
Great review guys, very well thought out and filmed. Enjoyed it. Not sure I could pick between the two.
@concernedcitizen5506
@concernedcitizen5506 2 жыл бұрын
I had a Tracer for 5 years. I test rode the SX and did the deal on the spot. Clearly the SX has been developed over a number of years and have come up with a great package. The quality and finish is just beautiful. The best bike in this category I have ridden and owned.
@neoretroguy4488
@neoretroguy4488 2 жыл бұрын
How is it compared to the tracer? Im thinking about the latest tracer 9 gt and the 1000sx
@concernedcitizen5506
@concernedcitizen5506 2 жыл бұрын
@@neoretroguy4488 completely different bike. A lot faster and a lot smoother and suits my back a lot more. I sit too straight up on the Tracer. No more adv bikes for me again.
@chrisw4215
@chrisw4215 Жыл бұрын
@@concernedcitizen5506 thank you for this comment, I was thinking about either tracer 9 or vstrom 1050xt and you are another person who suffers from back pain when sitting upright on the bike. I had z1000sx and vfr800 and no lower back pain. I tried upright bikes and they didn't work for me. I'm not alone
@borkarms
@borkarms 2 жыл бұрын
Loved watching this review from MCN. Nice to see a Conventional SPORT TOURER comparo, which is now a rare event .Was anticipating a clear hands down win for the Suzuki considering its an all new 2021 product , but am pleasantly surprised to know that the Kawasaki is still the King of the Hill as far as sports touring is concerned....Great Job Kawasaki.
@eb9826
@eb9826 2 жыл бұрын
Good effort chaps, excellent review. Keep ‘em coming!
@zrx4me1
@zrx4me1 2 жыл бұрын
outstanding review. Excellent points made. Thank you.
@pistolpete6321
@pistolpete6321 2 жыл бұрын
Brilliant comparison video, well done!
@kingofkings0101
@kingofkings0101 2 жыл бұрын
Keep them coming MCN !!!
@willforsyth6276
@willforsyth6276 2 жыл бұрын
been waiting for this one and glad I made a good decision...picked up my new Ninja today 🔥
@petercarr6599
@petercarr6599 2 жыл бұрын
Bloody great review lads!
@stevendegoodmojosmet4034
@stevendegoodmojosmet4034 2 жыл бұрын
Top review, well done ! Greatings from Belgium.
@bahadurdastoor7759
@bahadurdastoor7759 2 жыл бұрын
It's always great to have a comparison video with a distinctive answer at the end. 👍
@Heisssam
@Heisssam 2 жыл бұрын
I'm 25 and almost 26. As much as I like sports bikes these motorcycles are what's it all about . The perfect balance of sport, looks and practicality in one package. Looking at the kawa now but that suzuki looks insane.
@fugi9604
@fugi9604 2 жыл бұрын
Great, detailed comparison! This is an example how every test or comparison should be done.
@Spuggy0453
@Spuggy0453 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks guys. I've had a couple of these Kawasakis and you are spot on. (PS Love the way Neevesy always looks absolutely bloody frozen anytime he's not in August or southern Europe.)
@mike569112
@mike569112 2 жыл бұрын
Nice! I’ve been waiting for this video.
@RRRRefuelRideRace
@RRRRefuelRideRace 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing this. Nice comparison at the right moment. :)
@carsthatlast441
@carsthatlast441 Жыл бұрын
Great video, both of these bikes are beautiful. Thanks for a great review.
@Pitseolak1
@Pitseolak1 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for doing this comparison. Great job.
@SladeRenegade
@SladeRenegade 2 жыл бұрын
Great review! Thank you very much.
@ZediMaster
@ZediMaster 2 жыл бұрын
Gr8 comparisons. Ride safe, god bless u both.
@maldridge7630
@maldridge7630 2 жыл бұрын
I really appreciated and enjoyed an honest review. You spoke true facts. Did not seem like you were trying please both manufacturers. You seem non-biased on honest; a rare trait these days 👍
@Supernova12034
@Supernova12034 2 жыл бұрын
great review as always
@MrButtons252
@MrButtons252 8 ай бұрын
I just got to demo the 2023 Ninja 1000SX today and was absolutely blown away with how refined and good the bike fit me. Pretty much what these two reviewers were saying seems true to me.
@aeror115
@aeror115 2 жыл бұрын
Informative as usual
@paulantonio740
@paulantonio740 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, Dan and Michael. I'd be hard pressed to choose one or the other but I don't see how anyone could go wrong with either.
@drw1926
@drw1926 2 жыл бұрын
Kudos for actually declaring a winner, instead of the typical cop out we get from many other moto-channels with the "it all depends on what you're looking for" bit.
@greguspepegus
@greguspepegus 2 жыл бұрын
I jump from Versys 650 to Ninja 1000sx and i love it. Little over 10k Miles last season with out problems and i hope will be more that one.
@BDX2BDX2
@BDX2BDX2 2 ай бұрын
If the Versys was my only option, I wouldn't ride at all. I'd most likely feel the same about any ADV bike....
@2017Toy
@2017Toy Жыл бұрын
This is a very good video both of you guys did a great job on your reviews thanks for all of this information I think I would choose the Kawasaki too
@kaiserman6667
@kaiserman6667 2 жыл бұрын
I bought my first Ninja 1000 in 2015. Having previously owned a VRF I really thought Kawasaki had raised the bar. When the GSXS-F came out a year later I was very impressed but it lacked panniers. I traded my 2015 Ninja in on a 2021 Ninja last year. Oh my has Kawi changed an already stellar bike into a thing of beauty. Refined is the word I would use. Love my Ninja, best bike I have ever owned.
@imranmuhamm
@imranmuhamm Жыл бұрын
Great review…. Such great help for people like me who wants to go for sport’s comfy touring 🙏👍👍👍
@_MotoMa83_
@_MotoMa83_ Жыл бұрын
I am considering a new motorcycle and the video helped me foresee the features and advantages of each model. I absolutely appreciate the truthfulness of the comparison of both bikes. Must have been a nice ride gentlemen. I went to see both bikes at my local leadership. I rode the Kawee 2020 model and I loved it. I also like the fact that the Suzuki comes with bags and is ready to cross any state line. Yet, I like the overall Ninja package. Decision time... 😁
@AlexanderGkamanis
@AlexanderGkamanis 2 жыл бұрын
Love those videos!!!
@imprezabob
@imprezabob 8 ай бұрын
Just test rode both in the last week.. different roads though. My take on them.. The brakes on the kawsakl feel miles better, the suzuki feels a lot more aggressive putting down the power. The suzuki seemed to have quite a lot more vibration around 5000 rpm. For a tall rider 6ft 5 the suzuki felt a bit better, I think the bars are slightly higher than the kawasaki and just felt more upright on it, however could be resolved with bar risers I suppose. The seat on the Kawasaki more comfortable. The suzuki standard exhaust sounds miles better than the kawasaki. The TFT display on the suzuki is much nicer than the kawasaki.
@theamazingempiricist
@theamazingempiricist 5 ай бұрын
Did you pick one?
@BS32768
@BS32768 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review! I'm a Suzuki fan but glad to hear there's a more refined master out there. Request to balance the audio levels please? Had to turn it up to listen to the dulcet tones of the testers and then rush to turn it down for the loud music.
@marcinfil3673
@marcinfil3673 2 жыл бұрын
Two great bikes. Bought a new 1000 SX when they came out in Jan of 2011. Loved it the 9 years I owned it. Bullet proof and fun bike, although a little heavy. Changed things up and got a T7, very diff bike but I use it differently. Wouldn't hesitate to go back to ninja in a couple years.
@Explorerda
@Explorerda Жыл бұрын
Great review!
@davidhobson7851
@davidhobson7851 2 жыл бұрын
I’m 5’6 also, had a 2013 and 2017 z1000sx, was excited when the newest version came out, but…. Just too tall, I’d have needed it lowered and that would comprise handling. Had the gsx-s1000f and loved the more powerful engine and lower seat height, increased my slow speed confidence greatly. Hopefully picking up my Reflective Blue at the end of March /start April
@johnleonard2587
@johnleonard2587 2 жыл бұрын
probably be more like june/july for the GT due to suzuki not importing them until then
@stevenw354
@stevenw354 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video, I was wanting the Suzuki because it looks more appealing to me, but your review has me thinking Kawasaki now.
@davidmandell9909
@davidmandell9909 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2021 1000sx and it is absolutely phenomenal. It does everything very well. I have taken it to the track and kept up with my younger counterparts on their Gixxers, R-1"s and the like. Yes, not as fast and nimble but fast and nimble enough to enjoy a track day and shock others on faster bikes. Where the bike really shines is the gobs of torque almost everywhere in the rev range. On long rides along the glorious Blue Ridge Parkway in the states, comfort and agility is awesome. The side hard cases are great. What really took the 1000SX to the next level was replacing the stock exhaust system to a full Akrapovic exhaust system. It shed over 12 lbs of weight and added more than 10% HP and torque with a great exhaust note (not obnoxiously loud but awesome). Kawasaki has been refining the Ninja 1000 for a long time, and with this bike, they nailed it.....
@topgun8683
@topgun8683 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 2021 Kawasaki Ninja 1000 SX in black and I love it what a great review
@ans512
@ans512 2 жыл бұрын
Best and fair comparison of equally good sport tourers......MCN at its very best.....👍
@davidelizabeth4933
@davidelizabeth4933 2 жыл бұрын
Well done, gents. Fantastic. 👏 ❤❤
@philipthody5007
@philipthody5007 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent review boys, would have loved to have seen a “three way” with the XR or RS bmw though, maybe next time
@piumarider8090
@piumarider8090 2 жыл бұрын
Finally. I’ve been dying to get your opinion on these bikes… 🚀🏍🏍🏍
@fido0825
@fido0825 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent! Thank you!
@karlbratby4349
@karlbratby4349 2 жыл бұрын
Great review ….loving my 21 plate ninja 1000 performance touring edition , hands down best bike I’ve owned in 30 years of riding. Suzuki looks nice through, maybe in a gen or two will be a worthy adversary
@secaII
@secaII 2 жыл бұрын
Great video!!!
@xxcommentator
@xxcommentator Жыл бұрын
I'd go for the kawasaki just for what they mentioned and having both headlights on. I learned my lesson when I crashed my 390 RC on a rainy night that cracked the low beam bulb, which left me at a dilema where I either had to run the whole length home on high beam or go totally blind without lights and risk crashing again. Had gotten a few horns and fingers from angry motorists.
@allwheeldrive
@allwheeldrive 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this! Been waiting. These two (and one more) are at the top of my list for purchase. The other - which you guys wrote off because of tire size(?!) - did not get compared, the Tracer 9 GT. It's got 17s F&R, and though the seating position is (apparently) more upright, testers seem to not know how to categorize it; though it's CLEARLY not an adventure bike. But let's be real: it's in the same category with 17s, more standard features appropriate for touring, and - when equipped similarly - is about the same price. I think it all comes down to fit and slightly different personal priorities and riding needs. All brilliant. None would be a disappointment. For the S1000GT, Road 5s, another tooth, maybe different pads...the choice would be much harder. In the US: 1000SX, add touring pack @ $1400, $14,300 total S1000GT+ (includes touring kit), Road 5s ($500), sprocket ($100), $14,400 9 GT (already optioned-up), $14,999
@allwheeldrive
@allwheeldrive 2 жыл бұрын
@HahrtDood Thanks for this! When my local dealers have stock, I'll give them a go. All great bikes, just have to see how they fit, and how they resonate with the things we like/don't like.
@NZsarge1
@NZsarge1 2 жыл бұрын
The 9GT would probably edge it for me although it’s be a fight between it and the Kawasaki
@575ban
@575ban 2 жыл бұрын
My two favourite MCN road testers. Great review guys but I'd guessed the result before watching the video based on emotional feelings only. I've never had a Suzuki make my, well let's say make my feel good in a special way. Nice job guys 👍 Loved the "tell me a out the tyres" comment at the end 😂
@ivanhoe4766
@ivanhoe4766 2 жыл бұрын
Great review, one that I have been waiting for. I would like to know how the quick shifter functioned on each bike.
@firebladedan1
@firebladedan1 2 жыл бұрын
Just swapped my 2020 Ninja 1000sx for a Ninja H2 sx se, I know price wise it's not comparable but if your budget can stretch that far go try one, it's absolutely amazing. Love my sx and have done a couple of tours on it and loved every minute. The h2 though is just a different class, can't wait to get away on it
@TK-cl1jm
@TK-cl1jm Жыл бұрын
Does it handle as nimbly as the 1KSX? Feel as light? Obviously it must smash it in acceleration.
@VadersDarkside
@VadersDarkside 2 жыл бұрын
I love the looks of the GSX-S and almost reserved one but was worried about the riding position being a touch cramped in the legs as I'm a lanky bugger. I went for the Tracer 9 GT in the end which I love as it's incredibly comfortable and capable but I still find myself looking longingly at the Suzuki as it's so pretty. 😍
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom 11 ай бұрын
They are formidable comfort-wise. Im 6.2 (187) @ 100kg's. Probably the best allround mc ever built. On paper at least.
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 2 жыл бұрын
Since the original release of the GSX-S1000, I've complained about Suzuki not revising gear ratios. Those ratios are straight out of the 2005 GSX-R1000, with zero change. 1st gear is one of the tallest on the planet, and 2 through 6th are all smashed together after that. It's pointless in a big naked bike, and they haven't done a thing with those gear ratios moving over to the GT. It's just laziness by Suzuki. GRIND A FEW NEW GEAR SETS. How hard could it be. Surprised you guys didn't do a point-to-point comparison of some of the details between these. Vibration, instrument display, clutch action, shifter function, seat comfort/shape, weight, handling neutrality, fuel economy, and silly things like who wins a race between a couple stoplights.
@carterjoseph1475
@carterjoseph1475 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with you. I feel like this was more of a touring comparison and less of a sporty comparison. The gear ratios are a shame, suzuki will likely revise that after a couple generations. Not sure why they couldn't get that done with this overhaul...
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 2 жыл бұрын
@@carterjoseph1475 It's been 6 years. Mostly new 2022 out, no change. Addition of the GT model. No change. They don't have to change the engine cases, clutch cases, shifting mechanism, literally anything else. All they have to do is grind new gear sets and press them on the transmission shafts.
@ripvango3489
@ripvango3489 25 күн бұрын
I just purchased the 2020 SX. SWEEEET bike as I'm sure the GT is. I am beyond words as far as the gearing is concerned. ALL THAT MOTOR and running out of gear way way before it runs out of power. I'm genuinely curious WHY ? LIMIT the bike at 150 IDC, just let it cruise where a litre bike SHOULD cruise, not at 4500 rpm and not near halfway to redline. It takes a lot of the fun and feel away. Surprised and glad you mentioned gearing and the GT being geared even slightly shorter. I'd gladly add two teeth to the counter sprocket and take 3 from the rear, but abs and traction control won't function properly and no one has programmed to correct it. Neither company could offer a higher gearing package ? Not everyone likes to cruise easily at that high of an rpm. Totally unnecessary !!!!!!
@exothermal.sprocket
@exothermal.sprocket 25 күн бұрын
@@ripvango3489 Gearing cannot be fixed on the Suzuki without the company grinding a new set of transmission gears. The counter shaft sprocket would fix the tall 1st and make it shorter..... and then make 6th gear worse. You could make 6th gear tall and cruisy...... and then make 1st gear impossibly tall. You lose either way you go. ABS and traction control, if I'm understanding right, function based on wheel speed sensors, not countershaft RPM. ECU flash would fix any codes, issues in that department. Ninja Z1000SX is geared better but not perfect, and makes fatter torque in the middle. I'd go with the Z1000SX in the sport tourer, and GSX-S1000 in the naked bike. But honestly, I prefer the 850-950cc range naked bikes the most for their versatility and cost. You can tour on them with a little effort.
@ripvango3489
@ripvango3489 23 күн бұрын
@@exothermal.sprocket not sure what my comment said, I'm fine with the tall gearing on my 600 GSXR. The gearing on my 2020 Ninja SX is ridiculously low. Bike runs out of gear WAY before it runs out of torque. Nothing I can do about the transmission but I'd happily go way taller on the sprockets. Problem is traction control and abs will not work as accurately or properly as designed. And no one is programing for that change. I'll just live with it.
@PandaStencils
@PandaStencils 2 жыл бұрын
Great comparison. I daily commute on a 2021 Ninja 1000SX, and I agree- the number one adjective I would use to describe it is "smooth," followed by "refined." For my daily commuting and sporty, multi-day touring, it is almost perfect. I am glad to see the new Suzuki introduced, as practical sportbikes with luggage make the world a better place.
@nickthequick
@nickthequick 2 жыл бұрын
I am also the happy owner of the Ninja in Tourer version (would never "waste" money on a can) and I agree with what you say, but I have caught myself thinking "perhaps a bit boring in its near perfection .."
@HallaghanH
@HallaghanH 2 жыл бұрын
@Drew Miller, would you say the KawasaKi is a good bike for a newish rider who's been riding for a year in a 500cc adv bike? How is the comfort in longer rides? Thanks
@PandaStencils
@PandaStencils 2 жыл бұрын
@@HallaghanH The comfort on long rides is very good, with a comfortable seat and OK wind protection, cruise control, upright seating position. Regarding moving up from a 500cc ADV bike to this, it might be OK or it might be a bit of a stretch depending on your type of riding and experience level. I think that it is a very, very easy motorcycle to ride, and very smooth, with multiple ride modes to get up to speed. That said, it will be significantly faster and most likely heavier/wider than the any 500cc adventure bike. That said, I think that it is worth a test ride! Cheers
@HallaghanH
@HallaghanH 2 жыл бұрын
@Drew Miller thank you so much for your explanation, I truly appreciate. I'll give it a test ride!
@majordelays4909
@majordelays4909 7 ай бұрын
@@HallaghanH so, did you buy?
@WolfgangVonKempelen838
@WolfgangVonKempelen838 2 жыл бұрын
Deciding which one I am going to buy made it just a lot more difficult after watching this very good review. Thanks for leaving me in a pickle 😉
@davetrousers
@davetrousers 2 жыл бұрын
Test ride them then!
@splodge5714
@splodge5714 2 жыл бұрын
Thought the review gave an obvious winner.
@kiddcisco
@kiddcisco Жыл бұрын
Hands down the Kawi it is just more refined and smoother, I would not want the buzzier/peakier Suzuki on the highway but one can play w gearing
@-DC-
@-DC- 2 жыл бұрын
Suzuki have absolutely nailed it with this latest version , Great review the step up in quality of production is noticeable MCN.
@lemonjellies4985
@lemonjellies4985 2 жыл бұрын
If they had nailed it, it would be ahead of the SX in this review
@ronleon62
@ronleon62 9 ай бұрын
@@lemonjellies4985 Oh BS. Those are two guy's opinions. Give me the GT any day.
@ianlawrie919
@ianlawrie919 2 жыл бұрын
Great analogy! Like being in a rowing position 👍
@nickthequick
@nickthequick 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for finally making this comparo, which I am sure many people have been waiting for. Curious about one thing; I love the intake sound on the Ninja, how is the GT in comparison?
@zakw3637
@zakw3637 2 ай бұрын
Had a chance to ride both of these bikes at Daytona last week and I have to say this review is actually spot on. Kawi was much more polished and I was impressed with just about everything. Suzuki also a great bike but quality doesn’t match the Kawi and the the brakes are way number than they should be for such a great engine.
@swampmarshy
@swampmarshy Жыл бұрын
Good review of two great bikes. Please, a note to the video editor. Please tone down the tunes a little bit so that we can enjoy the sounds of these lovely bikes. I love the center stand on my 2020 FJR1300, plus the shaft drive. However, apparently it will not be manufactured for too much longer. Damn it.
@GaryJohnWalker1
@GaryJohnWalker1 2 жыл бұрын
A really good video. Well produced, no silly gimmicks, great summary. More like this, please. And I say this as a paper mcn subscriber who relished the written mcn 250 version of this.
@Supercharged1976
@Supercharged1976 2 жыл бұрын
I'm currently on a 2012 SX and let me tell you...HH Sintered pads, ECU Flash by Ivan's Performance, Airbox mod, and a 190/55 rear over the 190/50 makes it an absolute beast of a different bike.
@lukaszg74
@lukaszg74 Жыл бұрын
What airbox mod you are talking about
@ragerider6283
@ragerider6283 2 жыл бұрын
Nice review. The Kawasaki seems just that bit more refined & polished. Although seemingly not much wrong with the GT & hopefully Suzuki can get it on par with the Kawasaki in the next year or so. Suzuki best SPORTS tourer & Kawasaki best sports TOURER possibly? Although either way I'm waiting for the Moto Guzzi V100. : )
@R.Stridstrom
@R.Stridstrom 11 ай бұрын
Probably right.
@lynsmith1096
@lynsmith1096 2 жыл бұрын
Really good comparison video. It's the Suzuki for me.
@motorcyclenewsdotcom
@motorcyclenewsdotcom 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Lyn!
@user-zn6oo4on4k
@user-zn6oo4on4k 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for the motorcycle music I was able to stick it out and watch the vid, I usually pass out from the lack of stimulus, and this time I didn't fall to the floor and hurt myself.
@twotone3426
@twotone3426 Жыл бұрын
In my opinion the only two things the SX has over the GT is the IMU (which is not even the end of the world) and handle for the adjustable preload rear shock. Aside from that, the GT is superior in every way; looks better, more power, flawless quick shifter and auto blipper, more storage, better dash.
@UncleWally3
@UncleWally3 2 жыл бұрын
I didn’t want to hear those results but, I’m glad I did.
@ilmongolo
@ilmongolo 2 жыл бұрын
nice bikes and thanks suzu for bringing options in this segment, but at the end kawa has more substance and refinement: radial brake pump (instead of the cheap one on the suzu), remote preload adjuster, adjustable screen, IMU.... suzu got better tft if you like this kind of things
@xgkpanther0102x
@xgkpanther0102x Жыл бұрын
I have a 2020 Hayabusa with pannier. Just took a 9000 mile trip in May and loved every mile. I bet even the ZX14 would be great.
@jordanjoestar8839
@jordanjoestar8839 2 жыл бұрын
Suzuki for me. That motor, some new tires and maybe some different pads would do it wonders. Its looks are out of this world. At its price it really is a no brainer. Working at a dealership we've come across many electrical/starting/running issues on many of our kawasaki, and even some of the new ones. The GSX will be running happily 150,000 miles without any doubt. Just saw a GSX with 200,000+!
@-DC-
@-DC- 2 жыл бұрын
Had 6 GSXR's over 23 years never had a single fault or failure on any of them, Suzuki put out a fantastic product at good prices always have.
@wilswood8137
@wilswood8137 2 жыл бұрын
Loved watching this , not in the market for a sports tourer, but I have owned a z1000sx previously, and loved it. What I loved about this video, is it’s all filmed on my doorstep 😁👍🏼 Long hill Whaley bridge to Buxton , at fernilee Brilliant, wished I’d know , I’d have been there in a shot 😂 just to meet neeves’y 😂👌👍🏼
@rossnazareth8803
@rossnazareth8803 2 жыл бұрын
Reviewers, a question. Suzuki spent time in the wind tunnel making the bike’s bodywork aerodynamic for reduced wind resistance, quieter ride, less wind buffeting, and theoretically protecting the rider’s upper body from rain as well as lower body from water splashing the rider during riding in the wet. Did the reviewers notice any of these benefits? How does it compare to the Kawasaki or other sport tourers in this regard? Thank you.
@nickthequick
@nickthequick 2 жыл бұрын
Isn't this what all makers say?
@JelloThatsMellow
@JelloThatsMellow 2 жыл бұрын
When it first previewed, they seemed to like the aero package. I'm surprised that despite the lack of adjustable windscreen, not too many complaints about it.
@entitykeeper8869
@entitykeeper8869 2 жыл бұрын
I'm planning on buying the Suzuki. As far as reliability, I'm pretty sure that K5 will be much more trouble free than the Kawasaki.
@marekmach3896
@marekmach3896 2 жыл бұрын
You're comparing two Japanes bikes. How come there can be more problems with etiher of them compared to german or italian bikes
@bladerunner7551
@bladerunner7551 2 жыл бұрын
they did not mention the Auto bilipper and quick shifter at all on Suzuki.
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 2 жыл бұрын
A great review. Thank you. I was set on buying the Suzuki. Now, I need to ride the Kwaka. Tyres? It’s a shame that some manufacturers do put rubbish tyres on a bike that could be a deal breaker for the less experienced riders, however I was still planning on have the Suzuki’s swapped before pick up to something better. The S22’s are ones I was contemplating. That Suzuki blue however is timeless. Love it! 👍😎🇦🇺
@1teem
@1teem 2 жыл бұрын
Stay away from the s22s, they make the z1000sx feel pretty unstable on the motorway when and they tramline a lot. Fir the Metzeler Roadtec 01 tyres instead. The Pirelli Diablo Rosso III tyres are also better than the s22s.
@marcusgeorge1825
@marcusgeorge1825 2 жыл бұрын
@@1teem Thanks for your thoughts. I guess these type of machines aren’t really suited to these types of tyres.
@baywatch911
@baywatch911 2 жыл бұрын
good commentaries
@harolddavis4138
@harolddavis4138 Жыл бұрын
Definitely one of the main reasons I ride is to listen to my motorcycle engine, I absolutely love to hear my engine screaming along. When I watch reviews it's the same thing, I want to hear the engine noise I sure don't want to hear that music you have blaring. Only good thing I can say is it's not bad music but that's not the point, and it's not what I watch a motorcycle videos for. I want to hear the sound of the motor and the more of it the better. It's really a shame because it's quite a nice video other than that. So one more time turn the music off okay? I still gave you a thumbs up and enjoyed the video very much. Very informative.
@alistairmulhall2728
@alistairmulhall2728 2 жыл бұрын
Just changed my 2017 z1000sx tourer for a 20 plate Kawasaki H2sx se+, now that's a proper sports tourer!
@michaellilley6725
@michaellilley6725 2 жыл бұрын
A minute and a half in and we have a clear winner, Top Prize goes to the Ninja 1000SX two headlights are a hundred percent better than one 👍
@Charlesbjtown
@Charlesbjtown Жыл бұрын
I thought the same.... till I got the GT. Not sure how they did it, but that ONE little light, is VERY effective.
@michaellilley6725
@michaellilley6725 Жыл бұрын
@@Charlesbjtown I'm glad your pleased with your GT, hope you have many happy miles on it. Thanks for your reply 👍😀
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