Which one is best for metal?? | Joyo BanTamp Shootout!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks so much for checking out the video! Here are the others if you want to see them more in depth, individually! Jackman 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/hZLLpmCugN-Ml5o Firebrand kzbin.info/www/bejne/eJvUgZavjt6Ioas Zombie 2 kzbin.info/www/bejne/l6OwdaCjid97b68 Vivo kzbin.info/www/bejne/q3e8nId7msxog5o

[@Big_Uncle_Randy]

VIVO for the win for me...had more harmonic overtones...and did sound quite a bit close to the EVH style. .Zombie for my 2nd pic was my choice for a more heavy sound...but you forgot to demo the really good CLEAN CH. on the Zombie II...But anyway GREAT VID!!!

[@dherdy9205]

Taylor , is it true the orange clone is not of the dark terror As I'm hoping they produce a version, And I only need a house room sound

[@dherdy9205]

​@@Big_Uncle_RandyI like the vivo with the added features and room for a pedal or three

[@ragingskeptic9753]

Definitely the Zombie II. I just got one of these last night, and am stunned by the gain and clarity.

[@Wheresthepepsibismol]

As a JCM800 and Marshall JMP 2203 fan who can't afford a real one I would go for the Joyo Jackman.

[@Michael-jv2cn]

I have the JackMan II. I really love it.

[@apfelmistnutte]

I played with my meteor about 10 gigs, when i wasn't able to use DI for my helix. It worked fine and sounded killer.

[@DavidAllenMD]

There great backups I ha to buy one cuz my katana head burnt up

[@lydiagraham2188]

Vivo gets my vote, zombie second

[@moonmeister5766]

Based on vid indeed. However at home zombie sounds better imho. Need to check rest

[@springbloom5940]

The best one here, is the Jackman. I like the Meteor. Everyone has the impulse to go for high gain amps, but thats what effects are for. You'll always get a better tone, starting with a good sounding amp and hitting it with your favorite pedal; and sound different from everyone else that just cranks the gain on their Mesa DR. Most high gain amps kinda suck for anything but gain. Much better off with a clear, resonant mid-gain amp and a distortion pedal. Of course, Im accustomed to doing metal with decidedly non-metal amps.

[@HeavyMetalCowboy90]

@@springbloom5940 some people just want a simple plug the guitar in and practice set up without pedals. Which imo is what these are actually for. I have a 6505 if I want flash. I just want a high gain mini u can plug into and practice on without any additional accessories.

[@douglhorvath]

Most people don't rehearsal with tube amps, most people don't even have tube amps. So these are GREAT, they sound amazing and are loud enough for most people. About the "low end", we are guitarists, not bassists, and to much low end is a mistake. I love this little things, and they don't weight half a ton like my Soldano.

[@ohalistair]

The four amps these are emulating are heavily used within hardcore music. A genre where you really want a decent low end to get those room shaking chugs.

[@TheEchelon]

@@RJMStraya Professional guitarists? Sure. But hobbyists, no.

[@vorpalblades]

@@RJMStraya nah, pros use in ears and modeling now. Tubes are obsolete.

[@muttenmagroo]

@@vorpalblades this is half correct. On tour a lot are using kempers, neural dsp, even line6 helix, but in the recording studio are using tubes. Just less crap to have to lug around when touring.

[@brandenstapleton9641]

@@RJMStraya most guitarists with money to blow*

[@leifhildebrandt1645]

I have a Zomie 2. I hooked my cheap Behringer EQ in the effects loop and added a TC Electronics Spark in the front. My cab is a 2X12 Harley Benton Celestion 30’s. It worked great.

[@wmxx2000]

I think I like the zoMBie most and then the VIVO, then the JaCkMan and the FireBrand least.

[@billyedkin4837]

I personally have a zombie 2, i run a boost and eq to help fill out the sound. I love it and it keeps up with my band at practice for sure

[@zombiemontage]

Nice, I have one also and I now realize it needs a boost and EQ to get the most out of it. I couldnt get the sound I wanted before

[@billyedkin4837]

@@zombiemontage the joyo vintage od is what i use for a boost, and have the joyo 10 band eq. Both are rock solid pedals

[@zombiemontage]

@@billyedkin4837 I'm ordering a Caline 10 band and I already use a Behringer TO800 as a boost :)

[@Tohfool]

In front or in the effects loop?

[@billyedkin4837]

@@Tohfool i run the eq threw the effects loop, and run everything else threw the front

[@pernstar]

Found this one after ordering my Zombie and I do not regret my choice. That thing slays.

[@IvansLV777]

For that price - awesome amps. I got zombie II, sounds really cool. Good boosters and eq pedals make it sounds much better. VIVO sounds cool too.

[@quorthonsinferno5119]

The boss GE-7 is probably one of the most useful pedals available, it can definitely shape tones. I also have a zombie and I use a marshall mx412 cab and it already lacks the lowend, but this pedal seriously cranks it up.

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, that's why mine is so beat to hell! 😂

[@themplar]

Goddamn those tiny boxes sound massive. Specially liked it with the EQ pedal. Really torn between the zombie and Jackman.

[@CCPotato]

I shot out the Vivo and Zombie this past weekend and ended up keeping the Zombie. My main rig is a 50w 5150iii so I was kind of surprised, but the noise floor on the Vivo was so much higher- like double the hum at half the volume of the Zombie. I was surprised how chunky the Zombie was with a super overdrive and a 4x12, but 10-15% more volume would make it perfect (if only it went to 11!).

[@TaylorDanley]

😂 Yeah, it will think out a bit at high volume, but I agree that it is really chunky!

[@rolandjeromedamasco5954]

how do you connect the Joyo zombie headamp to a 4x12 cab that has two sockets for the left and right speakers? Since there's only one socket at the back of the Joyo headamp for 8ohms.

[@falken1974]

@@rolandjeromedamasco5954 that's where you get to dig inside and rewire it so all 4 are set to one jack. not fun.

[@landonmontgomery2693]

Zombie sounded the best, followed closely by the VIVO. The other 2 were just ok. If you get the opportunity, it would be awesome if you could review the Vox MV50 High Gain. I have one and think it's pretty amazing. Would like to hear your thoughts.

[@SxTxD_KY]

To me, even tho he's right about the Firebrand sounding thin compared to the others, the notes seem to have more definition. I'd say it's my favorite based on this video.

[@orphanuprising]

FireBrand sounds sick. I love that mid push

[@kivitelezo]

I have the Zombie II XL. Usually use my 6505MH on band practice but last time I shocked my friends with the Zombie :D To be honest in the mix I found the Jackman really nice. Less gain is often helps the mix. Thanks for the shootout

[@ThatMFShawnzy]

I have been looking at these for about a year, I ended up pulling the trigger on the Zombie II XL. It’s currently at my house waiting on me to get home in a few days. Your videos have been a MAJOR deciding factor to me and I subscribed!

[@TaylorDanley]

Awesome, thaknks for being here!

[@tonybarber420]

I just pulled the trigger a few hours ago on the zombie 2😎

[@032clayman21]

I have the Firebrand and I love the tone it has. I currently play with my 8-string guitar, the Firebrand, a tubescreamer, and a noise supressor. This amp has very good mids for 8-string playing.

[@dreamseekerguitar_1827]

Yeeeees! You finally did it! Awesome dude, thanks! Can’t wait to see how my zombie stands up against the others.

[@JonDeth]

Well, I hear the valve fizzing in the pinch harmonics so they did something right. The irony is I love my valve gear but that word is what best describes pinch harmonics through valves vs purely solid-state lol.

[@daniloberserk]

You need to get one MeteOR! I think it sounds fantastic! And jeez, the eq pedal make SUCH a big difference.

[@ThatMFShawnzy]

My thing with the meteor is why get one when you can get an orange tiny terror for less

[@daniloberserk]

@@ThatMFShawnzy Because MeteOR sounds better (subjective but). Also I'm SURE tiny terror costs much more. You're probably talking about Micro Terror.

[@narayanacooper8571]

@@ThatMFShawnzy I tried both an Orange Micro Terror & Dark Terror in a guitar shop where I bought my Jackson JS32 Rhoads, & preferred the cleaner sound of the Joyo ZoMBie, so I believe the MeteOR also sounds very similar, being an emulation of an Orange Amp, only cleaner & tighter. It's worth the little extra imo. 😂

[@deltasemple383]

@@ThatMFShawnzy the problem with the orange and the micro terror is you don't have a separate clean channel so you have to manually adjust to get your clean sound

[@ThatMFShawnzy]

@@deltasemple383 I dont use a clean channel lol

[@obvioustroll3617]

I love the jackman !!

[@jabr6349]

Jackman is my favorite, but for metal there's no way I wouldn't select the Zombie

[@kenmoulton5221]

Like always, Eddie has the perfect tone wherever he goes lol Weather its a 6505 or 5150 and every other brand's mod of it in-between, always sounds the best to me haha. I personally use the 5150 mod in the Donner Cyclops Mini. I run that direct into my PA system and run an A/B/Y with other amps.

[@emirarnas]

the Zombie wins 🔥🤘🏼

[@alekmartinez3109]

I like the vivo with that tube screamer sound more beefy

[@A.N.Nate.]

They could definitely release a Bantamp emulating a Marshall Plexi... Just sayin'...

[@acidpancakes420]

I don’t know how well that would work yeah you can max volume gain etc for that plexi push not at 100000 DB lol 🤣 but I also feel like lack of headroom would just make that fall apart

[@marcellarenusup3796]

Atomic,Meteor and Tweedy yo I need all of Joyo Bantamps for collection

[@knorrf1x900]

Thanks for that awesome shootout. I personally prefer the VIVO, but since its impossible to get anywhere right now i guess i´m going to take the Zombie. Howewer the EQ seems to make a huge difference.

[@jebuscrust9875]

the jackman and vivo sound very similar to my ear, the zombie sounds very scooped and the firebrand has a ton of mids

[@neildmonte8786]

The firebrand sounds like it would be good for Mutiilation ish black metal, I liked the higher mids sound of it.

[@jorgea.9988]

The VIVO is the most Crushing one!

[@linusheeda]

All these amps sounds amazing, but the Jackman is my favorite 👍🏻

[@mattnunesmusica]

I had one of this Zoombie one. They have a huge anoying mid frequency. I trade mine to a Jackman and its way better sounding, but they have less gain.

[@Ledmetacdc]

The thing I like about that Firebrand is it sits on the front of the mix extremely well. It's very distinct and clear. That said I have the Vivo and it was honestly my favorite in this test. I just wish there was an XL version of it.

[@juanbautistamaciel6767]

Vivo and zombie are the best for me

[@ryanmozert]

firebrand best

[@sexyworm1000]

Man idk whether to get the jackman, zombie or vivo they all sound mint

[@beefnacos6258]

What are you trying to do? If you are looking to balls to the wall gain choose the zombie. I bought one 3 days ago and it fhkin slams... I haven't played the others but all the videos. I hear they kind of sound muffled or muddy at times

[@TheRosswise]

Jackman, then Zombie, then Vivo, then Firebrand.

[@leonardopessoa5358]

The Zombie has the most appropriate equalization out of the box but with the eq pedal they all come to life and he becomes my last choice. Vivo and Jackman became f * good. You could have lowered the mids a little more on Firebrand. Anyway, I think it is the best for "less extreme mid scooped" types of metals, like power, melodic and heavy metal.

[@zerosoma33]

Came for the Zombie II but stayed for the Jackman. What a sound. Best by a mile.

[@Michael-jv2cn]

I have the JackMan 2 I'm very pleased with it. I added a crunch pedal and noise gate and damn it sounds good.

[@dresdensinn6669]

I liked the Zombie the best (and I have one), gonna have to try an EQ in the loop!

[@davel_ggw]

The Jackman, VIVO, and Zombie all sound quite good, and agreed that the Firebrand is the least impressive. Even though I generally prefer my Marshalls and Mesa over my 5150 II (but I still love it too), the VIVO might be the most impressive sounding one to me here.

[@redkurn]

zombie for certain, i think this so much i bought one and usually don't use any of the pedals i have or built with it, but occasionally the clean channel with a tubescreamer ts808 is pretty legit.

[@BAHOI]

Havent even watched the video yet but I alredy know is what I need!

[@TaylorDanley]

🤘🤘

[@yunamadsimackomen881]

Thank you Taylor, for such a comprehensive video! Based on the comparison, I personally favored the Vivo for its highly useable EQ. I think it worked best in the mix. Slightly scooped mids, aggressive high-end, and plenty of lows. I found the Jackman to have too much of a scoop and weak highs, while the Firebrand had WAY TOO MUCH of a low mid hump that clouded up the mix. The Zombie was great, and closely resembled the Vivo, however, I found its mids to have too much of a focused sound, almost like using a preamp distortion pedal (ex. Rev G3) into a clean poweramp.

[@somethingelsedoesmatter]

Out of these, I like the Jackman, followed by the Zombie and then Vivo. But honestly, they all sounded fairly samey to my ears (Jackman maybe a bit less so). Might be different if you're playing in the room, but to me, *mostly* they sounded like a slightly different tone setting. I think the cab and mic, or IR in this case, has the biggest influence on tone, and the amp itself is secondary. I was debating getting a cheap Marshall combo or something, but then I remembered these cheapo heads, so I'm considering getting a couple and a stereo 2x12 Harley Benton V30 cab, running one amp per speaker, and splitting my signal to both at once. But... I kinda prefer to get my drive from pedals mostly, so hard to know which of these would give a good clean tone and still sound great with a Rat or OCD or whatever. On second thought, maybe I'll just stick to my JC-40 for now and save for a Fender Jazzmaster. It'll always be nagging at my brain if I don't!

[@jeremypgiles]

They all sound great. Nice riffs. I think the Zombie wins for me

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌

[@modernwarfare2405]

Most epic slow mo ever

[@ToxicSentinelTTV]

I'm really digging that Zombie 2

[@rishiraj1205]

man I love the demo song at the end..from the time when you used to shootout among modelers XD

[@TaylorDanley]

I've been writing a lot for my band, and haven't had as much time to crank out demo songs. Surprised someone remembered though!

[@thedanksavatron7782]

Nissssssssssssssssssce 🥞 I run a EQ & OD with my Zombie as well! Gives it that bite & claw for a pure growler!🐺

[@dam7ri]

The best one is the BlueJay with a DOD/Digitech Death Metal pedal.

[@PK22-b7v]

Best out of the bunch for high gain is the Zombie. I have mine plugged into a Mesa 1x12 with an EVM speaker and it’s huge sounding. Just added a Mooer Reecho delay and next is a Mooer 5 band EQ. Great little setup for home usage with foot switchable clean/gain channels

[@obsoletemachinery]

I really liked the gain texture on the firebrand, but found it a little thin. I thought the meteor sounded like absolutely nothing special. I was surprised how much i liked the jackman, but wouldn't buy one (probably). The vivo sounds best in the mix to me, but i don't like the fizzy gain by itself. The zombie just kind of slays.

[@GonJilman]

Zombie 2 for me. Got it and a 1x12 vht cab in my cart in musicians friend now.

[@alanswanson7515]

I have the Meteor and Vivo. The Vivo is a bit louder but noisey. The Meteor nails the Orange sound and has girth. I run a Behringer 7 band eq in the loop - level on 7. This adds 3db in volume!!

[@LuisJimenez-pb3ge]

The zombie cuts through the mix but the Jackman blends in perfectly

[@needsLITHIUM]

I find tugging the dirty channel's EQ sweep towards the bass side a bit, I guess between 10 and 11 o'clock, and then using a Tube screamer with the gain at 9 o'clock, the tone sweep at 3 o'clock, and the level dimed gives the Jackman a good starting point tone, and then tweak with the EQ pedal from there. Put the gain on the amp at just shy of 3 o'clock. At least, this works on the Jackman II. Takes away all the flubbies introduced by the EQ on the amp favoring the lower end, and gives a nice focused gain boost in the upper mids. I then slightly push the entire midrange spectrum, boost the high end a bit more nudged the bass up a smidge, and drop the super high frequencies to like -6. I use a Zoom multi-FX pedal, and also utilize the noise gate and some things like WAH and flangers, and have a few other amp tones on some adjacent patches setup to play nice with the clean channel, though tbh I rarely, if ever, use those.

[@NotAnotherSatchFan]

Sounds great for me at least in my room, no need to eq my jackman though. Boost -> jackman II and zombie II [eq loop] should suffice

[@beefnacos6258]

I don't even boost mine and it slams

[@shredaintdead9323]

Vivo and firebrand slay! Not surprised. Evh and engl amps both rule

[@Joeytemper]

I'm sending back my Zombie II I was disappointed. The Jackman sound fuller but I really like the fire and vivo in the mix

[@zombiemontage]

Zombie needs a good eq pedal and a TS style overdrive boosting it

[@Joeytemper]

@@zombiemontage I have a 12 band eq and a maxon OD. My Micro Dark sound way better. Pity

[@mikeskis7887]

My favorite is still the VIVO , the mix sounded very balanced

[@yam37lu]

definitely zombie and vivo!!!

[@ericsylvester3638]

Awesome video .....now I have more amps to buy...🙃👍zombie ll and the vivo are my favs...keep up the good work

[@indigos290]

I gigged my jackman II and it is loud!

[@aftertheendtimes]

Great playing!!,..Good rewiew ;) Cheers

[@bigwomp932]

That VIVO sounds super fizzy to me. Boosted they all sound pretty great but the zombie wins by a mile. Firebrand has some cool character to it though.

[@Bbh4535]

I had the zombie and Vivo, never liked the vivo, zombie is cool but I never used it much so I sold both.

[@zombiemontage]

Zombie sounds closest to tube even though it isn't my preferred tone. The others like the Vivo sound a little fizzy without power tubes to smooth it out

[@jamespowell1175]

Love your channel! How about some old school metal/hard rock? John Sykes 1987 Whitesnake, is my target tone, without having to buy two Mesa Boogie Colosseum amps!

[@tetanusforbreakfast3500]

the JaCkMan II is a pleasant surprise in this 'competition'. VIVO sounds best for me though.

[@KPGuitarStudios]

The Zombie definitely hit the mark the best on there. I'd say that followed by the Vivo, Jackman and then the Firebrand at least in terms of quality tone, regardless of how well the emulation is. Subjective? Yes.

[@jsr-uz3oj]

Great video the zombie 2 was the one I'm looking at, but I'm torn between that and the Jackman the zombie 2 had more distortion, but the Jackman had better tone.

[@Lordbaccus]

my Favorite's were the Zombie & Jackman

[@Defleshuary]

They all offer something nice. It's crazy how those little things sound. If I had to choose, I'd go Zombie.

[@e-villekings4789]

You did a great job on this video man!

[@TaylorDanley]

Thanks!!

[@BrankoSimic696]

Every time you upload a video I hope to see you play Kelly, it's beautiful!! Great video, in my humble opinion The Jackman and Zombie sounds the best. Thank you for helping wich to buy! Stay heavy! 🤘🏻

[@TaylorDanley]

Yeah, I love that thing... I think it's time for that Kelly review to replace the one that mysteriously disappeared from my channel!

[@BrankoSimic696]

@@TaylorDanley if it's just a reverse headstock my wife would tell that I'm on pornhub again..😃 but still, awesome guitar!

[@dilloncox1238]

Zombie ii! Not even close. Most gain! Worked best with the eq to my ears!

[@countersign]

Solid video, just as always!

[@TaylorDanley]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@michaelfrancis1]

Cheers from Texas! 🤘😎🤘 Thanks, I've been wondering about these. A friend bought a mini Frd-man and wasn't impressed. Maybe he should put an EQ in the... 😜 If one needs an EQ, it's simply not the model for THAT desired sound. It's okay, there are other better suited models, I bet 😅 ✌️😁✌️

[@benvin10365]

Love your playing style!!!! I would like to hear a shootout between the JOYO ZOMBIE II (with EQ pedal), JOYO Mjolnir, and a real Mesa Boogie Dual Rectifier. There are huge price differences. Also, the two JOYO units are 5 watts apart and is there a difference. Can you get all you need for less money?

[@iwilrage]

Thank you

[@TaylorDanley]

🙌

[@needsLITHIUM]

Gonna go out on a limb and say the Duo Rec and JCM 800 BanTamp XL's. I have the Jackman II. A metal zone in the FX loop on the clean channel for layering more takes and sounds in studio, or the dirty channel with a tube screamer with an EQ in the FX loop is phenomenal, though tbh this will work well for most of these amps, if not all of them.

[@vondragonnoggin]

Great camera work and so dramatic plugging in the power, EQ in the loop, and powering on. Looked pretty exciting all slow mo. Sometimes they need a little extra. As in the case of the JaCkMan it needs EQ in the loop and a nice SD-1 or TS in front.

[@TaylorDanley]

Glad you enjoyed it! Yeah, the boos on that one for sure needs to be there.. for me at least.

[@jackbootshamangaming4541]

I'm wanting the Mjlonir, but I'm thinking of getting one of the Bantamps so I have a tiny little amp to bring around easier.

[@wyattonline]

Did I miss what the EQ settings are? Great demo work here! I'm a 1st Edition Zombie user, and that's for sure the sound I like in the demo. But frankly, I'm going to use an EQ and OD pedals, too, which can overcome a plethora of undesirable sound nuances.

[@r4v3nboy]

I wouldn’t vote em, rather categorise. Firebrand sounds like perfect choice for Thrash, vivo and zombie are more scooped I would say they sound metalcorish, more like modern metalbands and there is a jackman which boosted sounds most natural in my opinion. My opinion, not an expert havent played my zombie yet as my guitar is still at spa(luthier).

[@pisokl4g167]

JOYO Zombie & Zombie II

[@BrianBower]

I like that you ran an eq into them. I have an MXR 10 band that works good. I don't have an amp I use it with at all now though

[@LFiles48]

Jackman dsunded the best to me, but the Vivo and Zombie really shined in the mix

[@KristianHeartmusic]

I’ve tryd that Mesa clone. And even with a. Boost I was disappointed I was shocked cuz a lot of other people loved there’s I feel like it’s only me that didn’t liked the tone . And also I felt it was very very dark sounding but for practice hell why not .

[@beefnacos6258]

If you think that's a dark sounding then you would hate Engl

[@jamiefookes1579]

These can replace the full valve amps when combined with the EQ pedal, by the sound of them

[@Bruski_Two_Zero]

Missing the Meteor II, the Orange Rockerverb flavor is easily one of my favorites

[@Pablo-nc6qu]

I have a Zombie and a Jackman II. The Zombie is great, but the Jackman is awesome.

[@massttrshrdrharmonicminor2002]

These mini amps are so awesome, I have a micro Dark, I send it into my stealth and it sounds cool. But when I ran it out of a Marshall SS MG100 it sounded killer, so much better compared to the distortion of the Marshall

[@nigelmacquillan7211]

Zombie or Vivo for me in the mix.

[@ethanwittneben2584]

It's a toss-up between the Vivo and the Zombie II

[@TheAnalyticalObservers]

We use the zombie II to play for 2 thousand people, from time to time, we mic up my cab, and use the house PA.