WHICH ONE IS CHEAPER? 600-HP 408 STROKER VS 600-HP JUNKYARD 4.8L TURBO. FULL PRICING FOR EACH.

[@andreaudio]

The thing I love the most about this channel is that it’s focused on “normal guys” like me and so many others. Of course it’s nice to watch those ultra expensive motors and all the stuff related in other channels, but the content here is more achievable and very informative.

[@AEtrane]

The machine work is the hidden killer on an engine rebuild. Easy to blow the budget with hot tanking the block, align honing the bores, zero decking, balancing everything, etc. etc.

[@timothycarey3883]

No need for any of that on an ls, these are so good even on high mileage, pressure wash at home and slap some new bearings in it and run it.

[@TEsko1017]

​@timothycarey3883 not true. Some of these things will be required after certain modifications like changing to arp main studs instead of bolts 🤷🏾‍♂️

[@timothycarey3883]

@@TEsko1017 no body changes to arp main studs on ls engines, the rods will fail long before crank or main bolts, ls have 6 bolt mains and skirted block. Arp head studs maybe, but people run tons of power thru stockers. 600hp for an ls can be done with cam springs pushrods and a china turbo and run for years with a good tune.

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

@@AEtrane but all of tht stuff has to be done to really kno the history of the engine and start with a clean slate

[@kevinwest3689]

Powell machine. Does a lot of ls Engines. And he completely disagrees with. No need on an LS. And proves it. There is a difference between an engine builder and an engine Assembler. For instance, Some will say, Ignore that rotten number one cam Is bearing, All LS are that way, send it, Because everyone's doing it. And a builder will say. Let's line hone and deck it so each piston is doing and getting the same thing. Quench- compression - piston to valve clearance. Ect ect

[@hydrocarbon82]

I built my 5.3's turbo kit as 'frugally' possible: I have under $1500 into it. Granted I made my own x-over and downpipe, but a no-fab kit would be ~$2000. Turbo can be done a lot cheaper whereas a stroker is largely a fixed cost. Even using name-brand stuff will be cheaper. The up side to a stroker is you have instant torque, which is fun to impress people with instant burnouts. Then again, a simple 454 or 496 would do the same for a lot less.

[@mikeeaton9822]

@hydrocarbon8272 you gotta love a big blocks torque!!!

[@kyleolin3566]

So, what you’re saying is I should turbo my 496?

[@orangetruckman]

Yes, a 454 can and does do that but the pain in the wallet makes it prohibitively expensive on the back end 🥺 6-7 mpg is just 🤢🤮 when filling up. Though, I was able to buy an entire truck for $700 with a bad running 454, surface the heads, buy gaskets, all for under $1000. I’m not upset with how it turned out, just sad about the fuel mileage. A 4l80e is in the works, so maybe 10 mpg could be had 🙏🏻

[@yeahididit9054]

@@orangetruckmanbelieve it or not but get ya a quest or an old spread bore with smaller primaries and the 480e overdrive together will get ya 12-15 or squad-jet

[@natelorimer8567]

​@@yeahididit9054 I got 17-18 out of a 454 at 80 mph .. t56 6 speed and 3.73 gear. And a quadrajet. Later I did up a holley and blow through with a small s475. It was amazing

[@barnettimpala]

The cost breakdown is tremendously helpful. This video will likely be a decision maker for many.

[@RobArmour]

Don’t forgot the hidden machine shop costs to build the stroker kit, and the fact that most machine shops are going to have your parts for around 4-6 months even if they tell you it’ll be 2 weeks. 😂

[@richardholdener1727]

the machine costs were part of the costs section

[@andretorben9995]

Add to that the 4.8 will have better street manners, better fuel economy. Of course you cannot deny the 408 will have great tyre ripping torque from right down low.

[@mistersniffer6838]

"the 408 will have great tyre ripping torque from right down low." BINGO!!! 0 to speed limit on the street....

[@roysimpson6625]

And with the 408 you won't be married to your laptop constantly making turbo excuses

[@roknroy1]

Great video! I’ve seen big hp cars lose at the stop light nationals to lower hp cars due to traction, yes. Roll racing is fine for high hp cars, but on the street a 450hp light older car usually wins most races to 80 mph and a good old 350 Chevy with afr/trickflow heads gets the job done

[@TheBDD1970]

I agree and am wrestling with this as I have a 6.0 LS in the car now with a decent 228R cam. I may just upgrade my heads intake and maybe a cam upgrade. I have traction issues but once I resolve that(close now) I am sure I will want another 50 hp at least. I am making about 350 ish est at the wheels now with a 4l80.

[@hayden6056]

​@@TheBDD1970depending on box and whether in 4wd or street car but a 6 litre with a 228r is more like 400whp.

[@joecameron3406]

94 s10 ss mild 6L LS minor enhancements a real blast on the street

[@lucysmith4242]

Turbo because tuning antilag and other turbo adjustability is honestly just fun

[@jefffanning2799]

Richard, love the Soup-Nuts, bottom line approach! Well done sir!

[@Gearbhall]

The obvious answer is to turbo the 408, but as a daily driver the turbo 4.8 is going to be better than the 408 stroker I think.

[@harleysgarage327]

I would do the 408, much less clutter in the engine compartment, more room to work on it in the future.

[@Fossillarson]

I feel the same i want N/A 427ci for my 03 silverado. But the 4.8 i currently have will give me 500wheel also 😊 I keep tossing both back and forth. Its 2yr plan for power plant trans is next year. I just did suspension and rear-end. So time toss in trans and then power it all 😊

[@1972davidt]

I would definitely go with the turbo!! No question about it!

[@button-puncher]

Richard, if you started selling a 4.3 V6 cam , that would be SO AWESOME. All the aftermarket ones are SO EXPENSIVE. Turbo FTW. With a properly sized turbo, you are going to get more TQ down low than the stroker. That wins races. Plus the turbo kit can be transferred to a 5.3 or 6.0.

[@scotttimpany2845]

I'll take a 408 - and the turbo! Cost be damned!

[@popeye089]

I’d take the stroker, finishing my stroker build now. I just left twin turbo and want to return to my roots. No other reason. Hard to beat the sound and torque curve of a NA stroker. But hard to beat the price and efficiency of a turbo

[@alantrimble2881]

Hard to beat a stock bottom end 6.0 with a cam and springs. Turbos are great, but the associated plumbing clutters up the engine bay, heats the shit out of everything & makes everything more difficult to work on. You can make 400HP to the tire for not a lot of money. 400WHP is really fun in a 3500lb. or less vehicle.

[@joshgessinger4509]

Why u gotta have a stroker with a turbo lol!!

[@earlhopkins3745]

@@joshgessinger4509 Got to have a stroker and two turbos!!!

[@horsefly1020]

Better to have blower and a stroker.

[@jmflournoy386]

Good one Richard no junk yard intercoolers and build the trans first

[@TheBDD1970]

Thanks Richard! I am wrestling this decision and this helps. I am not sure the turbo plumbing in my second gen is worth it but man it sure would be fun.

[@autumnjeserich2689]

I built a 402 stroker for my daily driver because the motor was blown and everything inside it was junk anyway so might as well make a stroker if I'm replacing the parts anyway

[@replica4132]

not mentioned is the maintenance being so much better on the stroker, not being as worried about as much loss of power as temps go up in the summer, less heat creep in the engine bay cooking your stock PCM, no oil lines or coolant feeds to a turbo that can leak and strand you

[@georgemontgomery9422]

Either one would put a smile on your face. In the long run I believe the 408 would give you many more miles to smile.

[@andys8882]

5.3 L33, tbss intake,706 heads and a GT45 turbo in front of a TH400 in my s10 and I’m happy

[@jacobvanhalteren7452]

If you have a truck that's any bigger than a Single cab you want the stroker and you can keep factory heads like a 799 with some minor work, big cam and springs and you'll make amazing torque and gain efficency down low. Sorta wonder if I should have spent the extra 1k for the stroker kit for my 6l build for my truck. Decided against it for longetivity reasons and I'm gonna turbo my built motor

[@BigMikesGarage]

Did you include balancing the rotating assembly in your machine shop estimate? That is another significant expense consideration. Great content!

[@richardholdener1727]

some assemblies come balanced, otherwise included in the machine work costs

[@dewaynejorgenson1093]

Turbo all day everyday due to the adjustability of the piwer curve. It's easier to adjust the power to your traction than find traction for too much power.

[@natelorimer8567]

I would love the power out if the stroker.. but if your just wanting 600 hp numbers. Get the 4.8 If you look for a donor vehicle, your pocketbook will thank you too on the 4.8

[@wayneroper4439]

Hey Richard, look into the Denmah VS Racing turbo with cold side kit. Real cost effective and comes with everything you need for less than $1,000.

[@richardholdener1727]

Matt does good stuff over there

[@n3spitzkopf]

This kit is the best bang for your buck, running well on my rig. With the 7875 cast turbo my total was just under $900. Comes with Intercooler, piping,couplers, clamps, Bov, and WG oil feed line, and turbo gasket.

[@matmichalke5734]

So here's what I'd love to see, mainly because it's what I plan to put in my 65 skylark. 5.3 or 4.8, cam(of course), twin eBay turbos(budget lol), carb intake with an Aces killshot and the goal is 600hp fast spooling setup

[@95Sn95]

I think I'm going to dip my toe into turbos with my SBC in my truck, I'm a welder fabricator by trade so all the fan work isn't an issue I figure I just need to find an aftermarket TBI setup because going blow thru carb sounds like a nightmare of issues vs just tuning a EFI setup, even tho I've never done it I'm sure I can flounder my way thru it enough to get it to run half way decent. The new plug n play mega squirt for 94/95 mustang looks awesome, it litterly plugs into factory connections and has a butt load of features, auto trans too, it's capable of doing about everything thing can think of and then some and is very expandable like doing traction control it's pretty sweet but the price isnt cheap its around $1100, that's steep but if that's what your looking for it's money well spent I think. Especially where there is no installation mods needed just unplug the factory ECU and plug it in done for basic function, obviously it's more involved when you start expanding it but installing a Holley is not plug n play that I know of and the old mega squirt needed an expensive unit to integrate it to the factory system.

[@70sAirForceBrat]

Rich you also need to try your cams with an LSA and show how they do. Like to see some more LSA content on your channel especially with Holly black hearts shorty cast manifolds.

[@richardholdener1727]

the cam works with any blower-boost just adds to what is there

[@joelgilmer45]

Great video Richard!

[@bluecollarhotrods9781]

I remember when 408 shortblocks were $3599, now they're $5000 or so. Total buzzkill.

[@shawnc757]

And rotating assemblies used to run around 1200

[@cgarris8674]

And you can almost double that for the FoMoCo and Mopar guys!

[@boost1728]

Absolutely turbo. Better fuel economy and street manners around town, more affordable… that’s enough for me

[@Jeepit-ZJ]

I love my 5.3! but my 408 kicks ass! 408 baby!!!

[@dudewutuptube]

Trapping 134 in my 5000lb 4.8 truck currently ss2 cam and a 1.25ar 7875 at 14psi

[@scotttimpany2845]

SCHWEEET!

[@TheBDD1970]

@@scotttimpany2845 translation = He is making about 800 hp using a turbo and he is loving it.

[@hayden6056]

​@@TheBDD1970I'd say over 900 crank and closer to a thou if it's legit 5000lb race weight at 134 mph.

[@altruisticscoundrel]

Great turnkey video for hot rodding overview in 2024!

[@magius231]

I pretty much kept track of every single nickle and dime i spent, including shipping/tax, spark plugs, oil, gaskets, etc and this is what I came up with for my LS1 turbo in my 99 Trans Am: turbo setup (ebay GT45), this includes all the gauges, fuel system, injectors, random fittings, piping, etc: $3105. Engine/cam/springs/pushrods/re-seal (you don't have to do this): $2064 Transmission/suspension including 4l80e swap, torque arm, safety loop, torque converter: $3411 I am tuning it myself so $499 for HP Tuners (for now). Doing it all over I could definitely save some money in spots and probably knock $1000-$2000 off all this but i went pretty cheap with a lot of this (I should own stock in DNA motorsports by now) but I think this is pretty representative of overall costs to really set this up and get it running in a car. Realistically I should also drop ~$3000 in a driveshaft and ford 9 inch before this ever gets near a track but those of you that don't have F-body's may not have to worry about a rear end made of duct tape and chicken wire...

[@lancelanphier9509]

Lol

[@Mastermindyoung14]

I couldn't decide, so I did both.

[@mikes.1882]

Turbo 4.8 is cheaper. But a 408 says wow then turbo it. Talked to my machinist today. Gave him the news. He got a smile on his face and then said 408 will make a lot of power, which is exactly what Richard says.

[@scotttimpany2845]

It's got a "408 and an 88". And yes, it makes a lot of power.

[@peted5217]

Packaging a Turbo is an add'l expense, challenge that NA bypasses. CenTex Machine shop tab $1900 3yrs ago to deck, bore .010, clearance, balance w/clutch an alum 6.2 stroker to 6.8 Kit was $2800. Other supplies, parts $2900. 100 hrs to hounddog stuff,remove, dis & re- assemble, install . Chassis dyno $600.

[@70sAirForceBrat]

You could also take the rotating assembly out of a 4.8 and with new Pistons and use it in a stock 6.0 L and make a poor man's 327. Definitely we need to balance the crank with all that extra weight added by the 4-in piston. That would be a fun build. It definitely would be nostalgic.

[@richardholdener1727]

coming-but I already did a 4.8L crank in a 6.2L block

[@arthurbirt2094]

With what result?

[@z3r3pmoto]

@@arthurbirt2094 He has a video on it

[@oby-1607]

At 5:34 you stated it would take 600 to 750 horsepower to have a good intercooler. I would guess this is from all the excitement of thinking of more horsepower. The beauty of the turbo setup is the power is always there waiting to be used while cruising around smoothly until you need it, then it is on.. Not so with the stroker kit.

[@richardholdener1727]

I stated it would take 600-750 to have a good intercooler? That doesn't sound right

[@Jim_Lawrence]

@richardholdener1727 I think you said HP instead of dollars. Everyone knows what you meant. I do have a suggestion, as you've mentioned it, but I don't remember a test. How about 87 turbo testing? Street cars and trucks could save coin on 87 instead of 91/93, or upping everything and going E85. It'd be a way to show how much power you're leaving on the table by saving on fuel, and give you an opportunity to say any changes on initial build. Like comp ratio, intercooler at X psi, etc...

[@cgarris8674]

The Stroker... It'll actually live for several years. I've seen way too many JY LS's with turbo's break and oil down the track. With that said, each has their place depending on your budget, use-case and expectations.

[@alexdexter3.6rubicon95]

I will soon be doing a my daughter 84 cutlass supreme with ring gap, stage 2 turbo cam and a gt45 or bigger ebay turbo. should be a fun project 😅

[@fm3340]

Somehow I ended up with $11k into my 408. I did a full roller with a gear drive, and studs. The money was well spent too.

[@ScottNewton-i5n]

The answer is you turbo the engine that you already have and build a 408 on the side with a upgraded turbo to swap out when your ready

[@95Sn95]

I think one of the coolest looks is the dual torque storm superchargers, and probably can make killer power but phewww that would get expensive.

[@witcher71]

Stock 6.0 with turbo sounds like a good compromise if you're on a budget.

[@joecameron3406]

No replacement for displacement. As you can tell from that statement I'm old school

[@guerreroa85]

I already have th 6.0 and i already have a set of 243 heads that i got for basically free so the 408 sounds awesome to me atm

[@american7169]

8.1l stroker all day😊

[@leesanders8824]

Should've done a carb version of the stroker. I look though my old car magazines and it's crazy how much parts have went up. I didn't make as much back then but it seems performance parts are way farther away today then they were back 15 years ago. Comparatively speaking......

[@ChandlerLofton]

Well I did the 408, and it wasn’t enough. So now I’m putting a TVS 2650 on top to see if a belt driven intake will help 😂

[@richardholdener1727]

those R good intakes

[@95Sn95]

The 408 would be a way wilder ride I would think, very rowdy and a ton of fun, the throttle response is a consideration too. but there's prob more downsides to a big stroker, the turbo setup could be made to have good drivability and fuel economy but big power anytime on tap, and way cheaper. And if you blow up the 4.8 your back in action for under a grand and a couple scraped knuckles vs a few more thousand dollars and weeks to repair the 408, and with the 408 how are you going to get those whooshing noises? Ideally toss the turbo on the 408!

[@jdcarguy1242]

Add a good transmission to either. Few gm stock units are up to the task of even this hp level.

[@richardholdener1727]

agree

[@jonadkins9339]

I just hope my 408 can get close to 600hp N/A being low compression. Procharger should help it out down the road, but that's a few years off.

[@tobbytownsend9968]

If I were to write a check for the parts it takes to build the 408, I would build a 427 with an LSX block. Then boost it later 😉

[@twotrackjack2260]

Given that my application is probably gonna live 95% of its life street driving and highway cruising and reasonable fuel economy is desirable for that, im leaning towards turbo.

[@cw6293]

Thanks man, amd I'm gonna buy that call from you!!!

[@richardholdener1727]

cam?

[@horsefly1020]

408 and a blower would be awesome!

[@Jim_Lawrence]

I'm sure the 408 exhaust would sound better. But for a truck, I go diesel.

[@YoungerPrice]

How about a 408 stroker with a turbo

[@SpecialAgentJamesAki]

I went through the same sort of breakdown but looking for 500hp out of my sbc between going stroker or centrifugal. Ended up going stroker just because it’s my daily and I didn’t want to add extra moving parts.

[@zacharywatson2721]

I would love to hear/see what you think of and can do with the Nissan 5.6

[@olivierroy1301]

I would turbo my cheap 4.8 and try to tune it for better gas mileage. It would be cheaper to run than the 408.

[@scotttimpany2845]

Your gas mileage with a turbo is gonna stink! Why? Wooooosh! Vrooooooooooooooooooooom! Woooooosh!

[@olivierroy1301]

@@scotttimpany2845 let's say I'm doing a 300 miles road trip on cruise control. Would it be so different?

[@scotttimpany2845]

@@olivierroy1301 Well... mostly likely. But really? Vrooooooooom. Wooooooosh!

[@markreibson7030]

which flavor makes more usable torque? wouldn't the 4.8 be more satisfying as a daily?

[@caseyfisher7846]

Which would I build? I guess it would depend on purpose.... If I was a Street Guy, I would be more apt to do the Turbo 4.8L. But if money and time allowed for me to race in a bracket!?! 6.0 Stroker everyday of the week!!! Probably a lot less stress on the motor too!!!

[@_the_Chad_]

I'm surprised you suggest head studs on the 4.8 turbo setup. I thought the current recommendation was factory bolts up to pretty high power levels?

[@richardholdener1727]

you can run stock bolts-I have in the past, but recommend studs

[@roberthandy9420]

408 all the way then go with a 72 mm maybe 68 mm turbos then you can make some power!! Just be sure to use good parts so it will last at around 15 lb of boost should be the ticket

[@therealjpoe23]

Wow. The 408 really wrung out the wallet. 😳

[@cornfedproductions9773]

If you where building a turbo e85 truck to tow your race car to the track with, how would you set the engine up differently to handle the non stop stress that comes with towing. Has anyone tried this? The ecoboost does it but I’ve not seen the big turbo V8s doing it I wonder why?

[@bri-manhunter2654]

He’s covered this several times in other videos, just search. Many people have done this.

[@BOOT]

Option NOS for me cause I already got nitrous stuff, now i just need a decent engine...

[@TheSilverSphincter69]

for me its all about fitting it in a 77ish chevy van but from what im reading is all of the outside dimensions of the motors are pretty much the same and will all fit where the other one sat??? so im just waiting to see the ultimate steal deal on a ls/6l90 pair on facebook marketplace...ive been checking every day just waiting. leaning towards a 383 stroker

[@mikeeaton9822]

6.0 turbos oohh yeah!!!

[@tylerhall7035]

I have a 6.0l with 823 heads, kinda thinking id just rather slap a turbski on that bad boy!! lol

[@tokslut]

Why stop at 408 when stroking your crank? is for ex. 415/416 that much harder on the component? Thanks for all the good content Richard!

[@CULT539]

It’s not worth boring out that much. No need to bore it 30 thousandths over imo. Enough to clean up the bores is all I’d do. Then you can freshen the bores up again later down the road.

[@tokslut]

@@CULT539 Thanks, I have a 6.2 that need some work, So then 415/416 is easier right?

[@richardholdener1727]

Using a more expensive 6.2L block, you can go slightly bigger in displacement, or sleeve it and go for a 468 like we did-just more $

[@jeremystory6981]

The real questions which one leeks more oil Richard😂😂😂😂😂

[@sinistersilverado965]

I would pick a turbo 6 liter

[@plepgeat]

I mean, I'm a cheapskate so the 4.8 turbo appeals to me because it has lower up-front costs and - I assume - better fuel economy when cruising around at part-throttle. I just don't know if that assumption is remotely correct!

[@richardholdener1727]

it is

[@ztwntyn8]

Hmmm street stroker and highway or 1/4 I’d say turbo small engine

[@jimmytedrow4146]

In this comparison your getting a brand new motor in the 408. If you rebuilt the 4.8 right to actually last at those power levels i think it would be a different story. Although if you built the 4.8 600hp would not be the goal and would be making 2-3 hundy more than the 408 so 🤷

[@BurchellAtTheWharf]

Man, you ought to play arounf with a stock dodge LA 318

[@richardholdener1727]

I have a 360 Magnum

[@davidcunningham00]

Good thing I have about half of that already

[@DemetriusRaydenJohnson-x5t]

How does this compare to the turbo 3800?

[@BillyP-49Chevy]

Not sure if you mention it but I'm halfway through the video and I'm wondering that all the extra weight you're adding for the turbo build? How much weight is that approximately? On the 408 stroker you're not really adding weight

[@richardholdener1727]

this video was about cost and not weight

[@ryandoyle4344]

Part deux- Carb prices

[@nicksteger1265]

Turbo for sure

[@kylemilligan752]

Looking back at some of your stock cam turbo 4.8 videos, it seems a junkyard 4.8 with a ebay gt45 around 12-15 psi should make 600 engine dyno hp

[@richardholdener1727]

they make over 300 hp NA so 15 will get you there

[@kylemilligan752]

@@richardholdener1727 that was exactly my point. The junkyard 4.8 didn't need any expensive aftermarket parts. A gt45 and 15ish psi from your previous videos will do 600hp.

[@Tanker_Wanker]

Stroker NA will sound a lot nicer 👌

[@jeremythefleetguy1693]

Aren’t there some liabilities with putting a stroker crank with a stock block? I heard of issues with the pistons being pulled too far out the bottom of the cylinder bores? Reducing longevity??

[@jimmy_olds]

He mentions this.

[@richardholdener1727]

4.0 stroke is fine-don't go longer

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

Ohk I’m on a mission to find a machine shop in my area to resurface my deck and inspect my block and crank… so tht I can get my engine back to brand new again… I have no knowledge of this engine and I don’t think I can just go off what I’ve been told… it’s already out of the truck and it would just behove me to clean it up now and check that I’m building on a great platform, so I can get to my 500+whp. So I need to start at the machine shop no matter what rght? By the way this is my first engine build and swap

[@richardholdener1727]

depends on what you are trying to accomplish

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

@@richardholdener1727 I’m trying to to get 500+whp daily driver, reliability… top speed 150-160mph

[@Olds_Pwr]

Please use cubic inches for all displacements on your channel. It is more precise than a liter. Speaking imperial and metric in the same sentence is like reading print and cursive in the same sentence.

[@richardholdener1727]

LS motors are not designated in cubic inches from the factory-but the stroker motors are.

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

Ohk I’ve got a question… as to how it relates to me, I’m currently working on 2 engines the 4.8L v8 and the Amera Barra 4200 vortec inline 6’ and I’m wondering which one would be easier/cheaper to 600whp?

[@richardholdener1727]

ls

[@jahcousteauu_STAYinSHAPE]

@@richardholdener1727 Copytht LS 4.8 be great it is…

[@deanmoser5907]

The 408 might be more expensive but its a new build. Versus a junkyard engine. A fair comparison would be both engines fully rebuilt.

[@richardholdener1727]

the only reason the 408 was new was because it was required for the additional displacement, like adding the turbo to the 4.8L. A new motor is not necessary for 600-hp 4.8L-just ring gap.

[@hondatech5000]

Turbo all day. 600vrs600 until we get to the track 😂 prob could have used stock cam on 4.8😅

[@CULT539]

Ya or a big turbo and make 1500+ to the wheels all day.

[@hondatech5000]

Can i kick off a here's my 600hp build :P deka 80's 370$, 525 walboro fp 200$, cast "denmah" 870$ All @ vsracing, ls3 valve springs fbmp 60$, pqy regulator 32$, gaskets and studs like he listed, holley, termi x, ring gap replace broken or worn out stuff/razor blade rebuild, run manifolds and get

[@strikeforcetireguy1]

Where can I buy the low buck truck cam?

[@richardholdener1727]

[e-mail]

[@blakewhite723]

And fuel pump kit

[@scotthultin7769]

408 LS can be made form both engines

[@CBU-j2v]

Rich, which set up offers a RELIABLE 600 HP?

[@richardholdener1727]

both

[@ricjona1069]

4.2 Atlas. Easier to work on, easier to add a turbo.

[@dresdensvo]

Where do you get New complete aftermarket heads for $800 to $1500 a pair ?

[@richardholdener1727]

afr enforcer

[@davidcomp4898]

The afr enforcer really woke up my cammed ls1!​@@richardholdener1727