Which Optic to Buy For My Rifle?

[@RimShotWiLLEy]

So, what you're saying is ....just to be safe, buy lots of rifles and mount different scopes on each one. That's what I'm telling my wife, anyway! Love your content, love your positivity, stay safe.

[@762x69]

You're not kidding. When I got an LPVO for cheap, I made myself get a new rifle to take my "old" dot+magnifier combo

[@jaredandrews379]

That's what I'm hearing as well!

[@ryanwallace3101]

He’s also saying max out your cards for gear you don’t need but are cool to have.

[@Jrob992]

That’s what I did. Worth it.

[@RickyMontijo]

Make sure you tell her “we will all die if I don’t do this”

[@rekire___]

Perhaps the best optics is the one we made along the way

[@zane812]

This is one of comment the of the year 🥰

[@QKuKier]

lmao

[@don8659]

What did you buy man

[@kdb1891]

This guy gets it

[@noveske.2236]

i thought it was the friends we made along the way :c

[@EDVERSiTY]

A lot of people might say "but you've already come out with a video like this already;" it's good to have refreshers, though.

[@TREXARMS]

Yeah, not exactly like this video or with the same points provided. 👍

[@will2777]

Hey, more videos on optics just helps to give me more info on what I might want to get

[@RedDawnReadiness]

Another great video from you bro ! Waiting for the Black Friday sale !

[@T_bone]

Same with suppressors. It helps as an update. And where to maximize your budget if you are looking to get those items.

[@cobrajack-official]

This is a great video. Many customers under-think and de-prioritize optics, yet it's the most important accessory to almost any firearm now. When it comes to this particular firearm platform they nail the (3) primary options. All I would add, personally, is that action competition leads R&D and for several years multigun open division victories are dominated by LPVO with offset RDS. Many of those competitions are in the daytime.

[@codywise549]

A lot of people dont know the ACOG has a fast range finding feature. If the line for the 400 on your reticle is the same width as the torso of an e-type/average person, then the target is roughly 400m away. Works for all the ranged lines in the reticle

[@huh0123]

thank you for putting this out 5 minutes after I bought my first AR-15 Edit for those wondering: it’s a Forged PSA Sabre

[@scubamik3792]

I just got one as well. What did you go with?

[@kdawg2472]

@@scubamik3792you can definitely get away with the cheaper holosun or sig red dots. Spend money on a sling, ammo and training before anything else

[@Noobtubeguy]

Congratulations hopefully you don’t lose it in a boating accident , super common unfortunately

[@fattigla]

It's about time! Welcome. Practice intentionally. You only need one, for now. You can worry about getting another when you wear this one out. Spend the bulk of your budget on ammo. Stick with what you have and use it. You'll thank me in 20 years.

[@DirtyDirtbath]

I also recently got my first AR

[@RedDawnReadiness]

What it seems at this point… is doesn’t really matter what you have because we live in the golden age of optics… but whatever you have get good with it

[@calholli]

I'd say-- always make sure it has an etched reticle. So either a prism or an LPVO. So in the SHTF and grid down future we have coming at us: we can still have an optic that operates when you can't get batteries anymore.

[@lucasschmitz4588]

​@@calhollifacts i love my sig 1-8 lpvo i cant remember the exact name of it but its a great optic and decent price

[@vandalvetteworks8008]

The Meprolight M21 red dot requires no batteries. They do have their own compromises and limitations, though

[@pablo4yu]

I run a sig 4 and the juliet 6 on my scar… thousands of rounds later its still epic

[@immersivecrusader1]

⁠@@calholliI run a trijicon tr24 1-4lpvo and it really is “daylight bright” because it uses fiber optic like the acog. It also has tritium in it for darker scenarios but it’s very dim. Love the scope, very clear and still an etched reticle if the FO or tritium fails.

[@Merk21]

So, with a second focal plane, your point of impact isn't going to change through upping the magnification. However, the HOLDS in that reticle are only going to be good on the (usually) maximum magnification. I think this is what Lucas was trying to say, but it came out maybe a little confusing for someone who's not in the know :) Good video guys! The cinematography was stellar!

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

Thats why I normally detest SFP scopes, with a new exceptions like cheap scopes without BDCs or things like 1-4x or 1-6x LPVOs, reasonably I think any use of the BDC _is_ going to likely be on 4x anyways. It would be weird to choose to shoot at BDC ranges on 1x.

[@xxxlonewolf49]

FFP or pass

[@calholli]

@@M4c223c You don't need to. Your rifle can hit anything out to 300 yards with the center dot. If you're shooting further than that-- then why keep your zoom at 1-3x?? When you actually need to see the reticle it's there (when you zoom in).. When you don't need it, it's out of the way. It's a great system. I go FFP or prism.

[@calholli]

Also, that's not how it works. On a SFP scope, the reticle doesn't zoom in or out: it's FIXED. So BDC is only calibrated to a certain magnification and it will be off on all the others. It's typically calibrated to the last zoom in.. So if it's a 1-6x magnification: it will be calibrated on the 6x magnification. Lets say you choose to zero it at 3x instead of 6x: none of the BDC lines are going to match up with the calibration. Those BDC lines are still only calibrated to the 6x zoom and if you're looking through it at 3x, then they will all be off (except your zeroed center dot)............. If you are using a BDC reticle, FFP is best. SFP is for a simple center cross reticle, where you plan on dialing to your shooting distance and just using that center dot/ cross. SFP is not designed to use hold overs (unless you are at the max zoom). So if you don't like doing the math and turning dials on every shot--- then don't get a SFP; because that is it's purpose.

[@calholli]

@@M4c223c And your conclusion is that FFP LPVO's suck because you can't read subtensions that you don't' need? Doing something professionally doesn't mean you've been doing it right; it just means that you've been paid to do it. FFP's are great -- so Idk what your point was. They are certainly better than SFP scopes, except maybe on a bolt rifle where you're going to dial every shot anyway.

[@rouchenelvann]

Finding the right optic for you will be an expensive journey… but a worth while journey for those who take civilian armament and proficiency seriously. Great content as always.

[@RyanG-ij8xq]

It doesn’t have to be.

[@Ddayboy1944]

ACOG Rmr has been my new peak. RMR sits high and comfy for CQB, Acog is what I used in the marines and hitting out to 500 no problem. For a general setup that tries to flex where it can, i haven’t found better.

[@markanthonypar-wise1499]

Same that's what I have. It's a decent setup that can do both decently

[@MotorBoating1413]

I ran the acog in the army and loved it Just about have my ar10 .308 built out. I went with a 1-6 lpvo with a 45 dg red dot Old girl got heavy real quick Next I’ll be building out a 5.56 I like the idea of the red dot with magnifier but the trust I already have with the acog is hard to ignore 🤘

[@Justforfun-ek7et]

I miss my RCO from the Corps too. Too cheap to buy one for myself though… but my Eotech and magnifier was half the price and works pretty well.

[@Pinksalmun]

I've been using the 1x prism and 3x magnifier combo from Primary Arms for the past 2 years or so. It absolutely rules as someone with astigmatism who can't really use traditional red dots, but the biggest feature has to be their ACSS reticle hands-down. The rangefinding/BDC features built into it really make the whole package. I believe PA did a collab with Trijicon at one point to put the ACSS in a select series of ACOGs so that is something to look into as well.

[@axegekko6477]

Good to hear. My astigmatism just got bad enough to give me a comet on my red dots. Just picked up a SLX 1x Prism today. Pumped to tryit out. 510C-GR also gives me very minimal "snail" trail.

[@cameronwest628]

I wasnt a fan, i felt like something was always a bit blurry

[@Pinksalmun]

@@cameronwest628 Lol and we've circled back to no one single solution for everyone. Sorry to hear it wasn't for you. I'm sure you did it, but folks who try this need to remember there are diopters on BOTH the prism scope and magnifier and they need to be adjusted independently.

[@Pinksalmun]

@@axegekko6477 For real, projection dots look like like a smeared starburst to my football-shaped eyeballs. Coincidentally I use a 507C also with the ACSS reticle on my pistol. It's not ideal, but the chevron shape is a little more clear than a traditional dot.

[@darrylmuse9948]

Love my micro prism I have the PA also 👍🏾

[@TheDankCat127]

You make some good points about the drawbacks of LPVOs, namely their inherent fragility compared to other “running and gunning” optics. It’ll be interesting to see how well they hold up to actual use with the military switching to them.

[@sbgutta3047]

They have been using LPVOs since deep back in the GWOT days, it’s not really a new thing and they’ve been tested. There are countless pictures of Kahles, Vortex, Nightforce, Leupold, and Schmidt & Bender scopes on rifles in the sandbox. They’ll never be as durable as a simple ACOG or dot but they’re not toys either.

[@ryanburkett9899]

Kinda at the point where I don't really learn anything just enjoy the videos man and love how it helps newer guys

[@TREXARMS]

Some of our videos are definitely tailored to new gun-owners.

[@ryanburkett9899]

fully appreciate that and still love the videos regardless@@TREXARMS

[@True_Patriotx]

So… 1) Eotech + magnifier 2) ACOG + RMR 3) LVPO (+ RMR) 1) is best for noobs and if you only have one gun for everything 2) is best if you do more medium range than close range and is easier to transition between close and far targets. 3) is good for longer ranges and precision (added an RMR to the top of this rifle may give similar setup to ACOG + RMR) Conclusion: get three rifles, 1) with red dot and magnifier for home defense on a 10.5” gun. 2) 12.5-13.9” rifle with Acog + RMR for your apocalypse gun 3) 16”+ rifle with lvpo if you shoot longer distance more than close distance and do 3 gun competitions

[@t-bonesteak5057]

Just purchased my ragnorak for the Black Friday sale. Appreciate your team efforts. Thanks Hayden and Jordan

[@bthemedia]

23:55 Using magnifier as spotting scope... sticking my thumb out and resting my thumb under my eye usually works great for eye relief positioning.

[@crossfiregaming9541]

All I have to say is what a badass intro show casing the two man assault. Covering each other always one person with their gun shooting. Never both guns down at the same time! Reminds me of when my Dad took my brother and I to Phoenix, AZ to go see a Baseball game and we went to a badass indoor paintball field and the whole right side of the field was stacked tires hundreds of them in like a row type format. My brother and I tore back that side if the field using these tactics. He would lay down covering fire and I would bump up to the next bunker. Then I would lay down suppressive fire while targeting enemies and He would bump up to me and so on. That field had a couple downed helicopters and fort type towers in the corner of the fields. Good times!

[@Token_Black_Guy]

Based family bonding

[@EathenRice]

THE FPV SHOTS ARE AWESOME!!! and some great information as always.

[@jth_printed_designs]

20:00 This is why Eotech pairs their G45 magnifier with an EXPS3-4 in one of their HWS kits. It has 4 hold dots for more capability at range.

[@mlwiz950]

I noticed that too, another point for Eotech.

[@NickGuzelian]

This is actually supremely helpful Planning an AR10 build for a DMR, with an LPVO

[@calholli]

Get an Arken

[@marcusd3212]

I did a 12.5 with a lpvo for my truck hunter. This firearm is designed to be small and easy to use. Shots will be taken up to 200 yards so it works perfectly for that.

[@e7tegt503]

That is the best acog breakdown I’ve ever seen. Thanks. I wouldn’t be afraid to lay down the cash for one now.

[@jojitto]

The editing team is fuckin next level 🔥

[@apersonontheinternet8006]

Those FPV shots were incredibly well done!

[@a-t5380]

Grand thumbs team has been going crazy recently too. His latest videos look like movies.

[@ossihurme7572]

@@a-t5380 to be fair those are way better than this shaky cam garbage. If this was longer I might have gotten sick. Never happened from regular video.

[@a-t5380]

@@ossihurme7572 you got to draw in different demographics because of all the new gun owners im guessing? The flashy high quality stuff gets views. But ya I agree grandthumbs team is on another level. Especially recently

[@a-t5380]

@@ossihurme7572 also that's the difference between a youtuber with 1.6 million followers and 3.5 million... those checks probably allow for better editing and crew

[@zaynemikita6897]

Love the content. Honestly man I dont have those issues with the LPVO. I dont run Sig LPVOs, I Honestly don't like some of the very high end vortex stuff but there are a few options that I use for LPVOs and I really dig it man. They always go in my go to rifles not a dot. Appreciate going in the weeds for sure. Keep it up!

[@marcusd3212]

Which lpvo do your rock or recommend? My first lpvo was a vortex strike eagle on there 2" cantilever mount. Reason i went with this option is cause it was budget friendly for something i wasnt sure on using. I was used to the acog with a rmr on a 45° and on the other rifle i had a red dot with 3x magnifier.

[@luisuribe5432]

Wow at last name them…

[@luisuribe5432]

Wow at last name them…

[@brianwinger7293]

The OP didn't say what he had but, I can tell you I have had good luck with my LVPO. I have avoided the buy cheap ... then buy expensive upgrade path entirely. So, I avoided the vortex bandwagon -- and I went for it -- bought 'good' optics -- Loved my nightforce lvpo - sold it. Have used the eotech vudu, -- great option. But ended up buying a trijicon vcog -- its bombproof just like the acog -- I have never had any issue with it -- and I haven't babied it -- I am not using it as a bat or purposefully abusing it -- but it has never lost zero ever. Mind you an LVPO is NOT a replacement for a RDS equipped rifle for cqb etc... But the vcog allows me the ability to reach out to 300-500yds all day. Can't do that as 'easily' with a 1x setup. Just my 2c. @@marcusd3212

[@marcusd3212]

@@brianwinger7293 awesome thanks for the response! I was looking into the nightforce but when i was behind one i wasnt so impressed. Ill look into the vcog and vudo thanks.

[@marshallbrumfield]

Last year for Black Friday I got the Acog/rmr combo. This year I'm going to get the Eotech/magnifier... as a treat. Happy Thanksgiving everybody. God Bless. Stay Safe

[@garvon1967]

Happy Thanksgiving to you too my friend. God bless.

[@Token_Black_Guy]

I might do the same for black Friday next year

[@cw7legionofpewrights596]

This channel is literally a COD IRL Intro 😂😂, this is why I’ve been trying to push myself on the range. Very good content and the journey on the range has been a enjoyable one.

[@calholli]

Definitely a PUBG intro.. not COD.. not CSGO.. not Tarkov.. and not Battlefield

[@cw7legionofpewrights596]

@@calhollinever been into PUBG, everyone has their taste.

[@walkercustoms]

The topic of topics. Probably the most choices of all gun gizmos in all of creation. Banged my head on the optic wall many times.

[@calholli]

Just buy them all.

[@762x69]

@@calhollithis

[@armandoromero8918]

@@calhollitax season = optic season 😂

[@matthockman]

Lucas you are the man. You break down things so much more clearly than anyone else. No time wasted. Great information and concise delivery. Thank you. Great content.

[@jarbor7898]

Been watching your videos for a long time. I really enjoy them but this is one of my favorite videos. Great job talking about those three types of optics, budgets, beginners and experts etc… great video for all to watch. Thank you! God Bless!

[@DeeboComing]

I've had an Aimpoint pro for like 7 years on my main rifle. Changed the batteries out twice since then with it being on at all times and it still is working perfectly. Can never go wrong investing in a solid optic. 👌🏾

[@davidgaines8607]

I'm so glad I was able to try someone else's Acog before I dropped 1k. The lack of a diopter made it unusable for me. People acting like this is a feature. Yeah a feature that's missing.

[@lucasblanchard47]

I currently have a Holosun red dot/3x magnifier and a Primary Arms 1-6 LPVO. After some proper training, I may also pick up an ACOG like the one in this video to determine which I like best for my basic 16” rifle setup. Thanks for making such detailed and no-nonsense educational content. I would love to come train with y’all someday. Much love from Texas!

[@matthewmillican4506]

Excellent breakdown! For the LPVO's, I zero at MPBR. Takes a lot of the thinking out of switching between shooting at distance and close range.

[@rcrinsea]

Love this channel. So much critical info packed into the video. He talks fast, which is a plus. Thank you!

[@The_PotionSeller]

I used to tell people the Steiner P4Xi was the 99% solution for a one and done optic. It's phenomenal. But at the price it commands now, no way. At $350 it was the easiest decision in the world, now they go for 750

[@SigM1811]

Id say even when it was $350 not a solution for 99% of people or even the majority.

[@The_PotionSeller]

@@SigM1811 I'd disagree. It has a fantastic 1x, as close to red dot bright I've seen in any lpvo, and a very clear 4x. No optic is a true fix all solution, but for an average shooter, it'll do them well for 90% of the time

[@SigM1811]

@@The_PotionSeller I’m sure it’s a great optic Steiner is a great brand I just don’t see it fitting most people. If you plan to shoot past 100 frequently I think it is a great optic and not knocking the optic or your opinion at all. I just feel that there’s a lot of people that rarely push past 100 yards on their ars.

[@The_PotionSeller]

@@SigM1811 agreed, most people dont. The reason I like it is because it has exceptional 1x performance, and it's lighter than a red dot + magnifier, while keeping most of those benefits in one package. I personally have an eotech + magnifier, but I think that optic works very well for a normie gun owner that shoots from 7-150yds about twice a year. But now it's too expensive, and a holosun dot+magnifier is a way better cheap normie setup to recommend

[@daltexmex]

I actually coming one at a pawn shop for 450.

[@jayg4mrusmc]

That acog set-up is intriguing, especially with the rmr on top. I think we really need all, but if I'm reading between the lines here and you're running some lpvo and red dot w/ or w/o a magnifier and then jump to an acog, you should have a fairly smooth transition. Lots to consider. Good Stuff Bois!!

[@bronco0010]

My god it is so painful to watch these videos while living in Canada. I can tell you a lot of us up north are envious of the American 2A. Pretty soon we wont even be able to own a sharp stick.

[@superboy305]

Love the Acog and rmr setup, you were the first to open my eyes to it

[@WiIdbiII]

I've always been an iron sight fool. Recently bought my first optic. Went with the EXPS-3. Magnifier soon to follow.

[@mateo1726]

I also use the Wilcox riser with magnifier mount. Yes it’s pricey but it makes shooting very comfortable and lines your eye up to the red dot well without have to shrug your head down our gun up

[@Driver-ur9mf]

Saw that exps at PSA, was real tempted to pull the carry handle off. Then thought, nope. My luck batteries die just when I need them.

[@WiIdbiII]

@@Driver-ur9mf if you take your carry handle off you can mount an Red dot or Eotech and still have room to mount a rear B.U.I.S behind it

[@kaliyugatourguide]

​@@Driver-ur9mfThe battery life of the Eotech isn't that much of a issue in the real world ime. There is plenty of warning the battery is low but imo a fighting rifle should have irons regardless. A mint set-up is a exps 3-0 with fixed Daniel Defense irons. Then you'll always have robust irons avaliable in the lower 1/3rd of the Eotech's large, tint and distortion free glass if it were to fail.

[@iCookCrystalMeth]

@@Driver-ur9mfbackup irons with absolute or 1/3 co-witness bro bro

[@therightarmofthefreeworld4579]

Perfectly timed info drop, I just purchased the Eotech exps3-0 and g45 5x magnifier. I did a lot of research and decided this was the best fit. Now saving for NV.

[@fabang1138]

Got myself a Vortex red dot the other day for CQB Training (after watching another video of yours about optics), thanks for the pointers and appreciate all you content! :) Have a good day sir

[@vincentalbert317]

I went thé Elcan Specter DR for m'y 14.5 KAC SR15 and for me it s one of the mort versatile optic . Great job as always. Greating from France 😉

[@Peace.keeper]

I’ve said it before, I’ll say it again, y’all’s drone work is next level 🔥

[@slister1911]

One thing to mention (that has probably been covered in the comments already) with magnifiers on red dots is that they will obviously multiply the dot size such that an Aimpoint 2 MOA dot and the image scale together with a 3x magnifier (dot gets 3x bigger as does the background). However, holographic sights like the Eotech use a center dot that's much finer than 1 MOA (even though our eyes perceive it as roughly 1 MOA), so under magnification, the Eotech's dot doesn't seem to scale the same way with magnification (it is being magnified, but it's so small that we can't perceive the 3x increase). This can be helpful when trying to make precise, deliberate shots. Note, this phenomenon is often written to say that the dots in holographic weapon sights don't increase in size with magnifiers like red dots do. Of course they do, it's just that they're so small to begin with, it only appears that way to our eye.

[@StrongerThanOceans21]

Just bought my first AR today after talking to the dealer a bit about measure 114 and it might be going through tomorrow. Originally, was going to ask them to order me a DB15, and then behind him saw the exact gun on the wall, and within 10 mins bought the gun. Now I’ve been trying to figure out what optic I want, and this video pops up randomly. Cheers.

[@saisandoval]

Thank you for the great black Friday deals. I just ordered an Orion belt, double pistol mag pouch, and a rifle mag pouch. God bless and keep up the great training vids.

[@bthemedia]

Primary Arms Microprisms 1x 3x 5x seem to be smaller, lighter, and better eye relief than Trijicon but not as tough. Etched reticle better than Red Dot or Holographic for those with astigmatism!

[@ALovelyBunchOfDragonballz]

I really like my 5x micro prism with the mil grid. Is it as durable as an ACOG? Nope, but I'm sure whatever kills a good prism will probably kill me anyways.

[@carsonhunt4642]

I run the 2.5x with no battery, illumination is fun for darker/evening shooting tho. Once you use a prism/acog, even an eotech, you’ll never go back to “lpvo” garbage.

[@imforealz8617]

3.5 led acog with an Aimpoint on top is the best all around general purpose optic that will fit most roles. You can’t change my mind

[@wolfz136]

These drones shots are insane. Keep up the work!

[@stbenz1]

Your Optics videos are the best online. You put out great info in an easy to digest manner for the average Joe. Keep it up man!

[@bendennis8773]

I ended up going with a LPVO primarily to help with vision issues. Red dots and even the eotech dont do well with my eyes, i get too much refraction from lens implants. I have not tried the acog but I think I should try one after watching this video. Thanks for putting this out there.

[@ecobasetech4558]

The green dot may help with any star burst effect for a stigmatism. Also, I've seen a "gold" dot as well. Both examples I have one each from Holosun; both have a circle and dot combo reticle and the one with the gold color arrives tomorrow.

[@J.Young808]

For my astigmatism both red and green starburst, the circle isn’t as bad as the dot. My EOTech isn’t too bad when I’m target focused. I need to get out and train with all my optic systems.

[@victordogeman]

People who haven’t got to spend time with a TA31-CH (classic Acog, but with the crosshair reticle) tend to not realize just how incredible the actual sight picture is. 4x on the TA31 is VERY different than 4x on an Lpvo/ magnifier. The horizontal field of view is insane, you can see soooo much, and the glass quality is unparalleled. It’s like sitting closer to the tv on a first person shooter game sort of. You have such a sharp pristine image combined with such a wide field of view, and when you throw in the ultra fine crosshair reticle that gets as bright as you could ever want with no batteries, and all in a bombproof, ultra light package ? Man. It’s good.

[@ytty5183]

Mounted on LaRue and no eye box problems.

[@victordogeman]

⁠​⁠@@ytty5183exactly man, I got mine on a little higher than standard ADM mount (it basically imitates the height of a carry handle), and I’ve never once had any issue with the eye relief / undesirable eye box image. Such a great optic.

[@Venom2U]

Lucas I'm surprised you didn't mention the "Red Dot's" with a BDC reticle. Such as the Holosun HS503G (Paralow) with the ACSS reticle. There is NO "hey I wonder how far up I need to aim to hit there at 600" because you have drop stadia for it. You've got zero at 100. Drop for 300,400,500,600. Combined with the aforementioned magnifier, it's the best of both worlds. In a package that lighter than ANYTHING shown here......... Oh and it still has the 65 Moa CQB circle for bad breath range.........

[@zgairhan]

I've followed this dude from the beginning. This video made me very much so glad that I subscribed.

[@angryveteran8585]

The Vortex PST, Razor, PA Nova, Delta Stryker, Trijicon Credo HX, etc. can get red dot bright (if not brighter).

[@pyramus7958]

Absolutely love the info on your videos. My 16 in 5.56 had an lpvo on it but the more I shot i the more I didn't like the eye relief and the weight as much. So I decided to put an eotech on it. The nice thing about having that setup with a magnifier is I don't always have to have the magnifier on the rifle I can take it off to lighten it up or use it to view something without pointing a rifle.

[@509drone2]

Please do a review on the best “budget” optics that the vast majority of us are buying/use. Love the content as always!

[@ghostgrownmedicine7498]

Holosun 510c with the magnifier

[@robert4027]

Romeo 5 I love red dot

[@Based_Morty]

That drone camera work is off the hook. Seriously well done.

[@kevinclapson]

My optic setup is definitely dictated by budget. 3x prism from PA and a set of canted irons from Magpul. Gets the job done, but hoping next year to jump to an Eotech holo w/magnifer. Been the setup I've wanted for some time.

[@rilesmattix5217]

I got a vortex 5x prism from the freedom week on PSA. 200 bucks. I am telling you, EXTREMELY worthwhile for 200 bucks. It's an amazing prism, basically an ACOG but a tenth of the price.

[@strykeback1]

@@rilesmattix5217how’s the reticle on the 5x? Primary arms reticles always were awesome for knowing your distance

[@TsunTzu]

I believe I've tried most options...and I've settled squarely on magnifier/dot combinations for most applications. Romeo8T and Eotech EXPS3 are on my go to rifles. That said- this is a very personal, very subjective thing. There is no "best thing" in this area, folks. No real "one size fits all" for every application either. They're all good options and you need to, personally, find what works best for you as an individual.

[@Millirawk]

This is actually exactly what i was looking for love it when a Trex vid drops

[@galamonkey]

After like 14 years of buying rifles, shooting rifles, and kitting them out and trying different things, there’s 3 things I learned: 1) unless it’s a purely HD rifle, you need the ability for some sort of magnification. Even if it’s a basic 3x PA prism or a flip magnifier. You need something for any GP rifle. 2) that magnification is probably best served in a simple prism optic. The ACOGs are king of the hill, but for 25% of the cost, the PA prism is a perfectly good stand in. 3) Most everyone would do well to have their main GP rifle as a 20”. Us civilians aren’t doing CQB and doing solo room clearing in structures. That is to be avoided at nearly any cost. A 20” barrel benefits you in EVERYTHING else besides tight room to room stuff.

[@dirrrtydawg9772]

20in M16a4 clone with an Eotech and G33 3x magnifier. Looking to switch to an Aimpoint with magnifier for battery life concerns. Multi-year on the right settings vs maybe 60 hours is a very attractive option. Astigmatism aside. I am mildly upset Aimpoint magnifiers jumped so steep in price over the last gen they discontinued. I'll get there eventually. A proper set up requires investment.

[@myboyjericho2568]

I'm curious as to why you didn't discuss the lpvo with an offset red dot. If I'm not mistaken, people do that to alleviate the issues you mentioned.

[@ghostgrownmedicine7498]

Lpvo with offset reddot is the answer

[@HariboStarman]

Still doesn’t work under NV

[@reddragon6026]

Thank you guys.Extremely helpful information.

[@gtcam723]

Left out what I’d call the 4th…. The NOT LPVO VO (Leupy 3.6-18 comes to mind) I would kind of like a Tremor 3-ish type reticle with an ACOG. Sometimes, more data would be great. Is “sucked in” the technical term? 😆

[@DeemShane]

Personally I really dig the LPVO, I have been running one for about 5 years with a red dot up top, keep the LPVO at about 5 magnificaiton and then red dot for anything 25 yards and in. Been around ACOGs not a super big fan, but know dudes that love them. Red Dots are just really good. Video has a lot of good information, big fan of the the whole fiscal responsibility that Lucas is promiting as of lately.

[@Tyler-xe1ls]

That intro smacks harder than my drunk dad on Christmas eve.

[@Jayesci]

Wasn’t interested in reconsidering my optics but still found this video informative and engaging. Thanks!

[@No_Wall_Hangers]

Lucas, check out the daylight bright fiber optic 1x6 Delta Stryker and also the newest Primary Arms SLX Nova fiber optic reticle. Impressive and bright, even in full Arizona sunlight.

[@squirreltakular9049]

Super happy with my Delta Stryker. I wish it had wind holds, but if I wanted that + red dot performance I would have dropped $1700-2400 on a NF or Razor Gen III. For $800 it's a killer scope.

[@lucashullemeyer9192]

Love the video! I'm a civ and have no military experience. I have played with all these options. Coming from a hunting background I find it weird that no one really talks about target identifying and I think for a civilian its really important. If you are civilian and have to engage something at distance you better be sure its a threat or life in prison. Non of these are that great at that. Its just my opinion but I think a good set of binoculars is very important. I would rather identify a potential threat from further than these optics are capable of also without brandishing a firearm which can be a crime. I always use binoculars when hunting game cause there's game you can harvest and game you can't. And not a lot of hunters are searching massive open fields through their scopes. Its all about justifying the engagement for me. Its an opinion. I could be wrong.

[@Brian-lg1ui]

Cool new camera shots. Drones are awesome

[@LoudlabsNYC]

Cinematic intro was ❤‍🔥

[@dependablekit5500]

I personally owned a Sig 1-10 and then purchased a Monstrum Spectre 1-8 it has better glass better eye box and weather it's at 1 or 8 the eyebox remains perfect unlike my Sig but my go to is my Eotech Exps3-2 great video!!!!

[@benrent6625]

Well damn I thought I was going stupid when I liked my monstrum 1x6 and it's fat horseshoe with a cross hair reticle. It's excellent for everything I've done and I've shot it in quite a few different places and lightings.

[@JerichoTheCity]

I think my dream setup would be a fixed 4x or 5x + a mini red dot, but realistically, a red dot + magnifier just makes more sense for me.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

Mk18 = eotech. M4 = acog. Mk12 = razor gen III 1-10 with a top mounted RMR. I have all three and now I don’t know which is my favorite. Edited to add. Great advice on not buying unless you can afford 2. This is how I’ve saved and done better financially than my career would produce. On small things outside the normal budget, if I can’t afford 10 of them, I won’t buy it. Big purchases X5 it saved me when I was younger and poor.

[@Kinetic.44]

What's the point of a LPVO if you need a separate 1x optic?! You would be better off with a scope that starts at 2x and has a larger objective lens.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

@@Kinetic.44 night vision

[@erickrieger2080]

@@Kinetic.44a lot of people like the top mounted dot for passive shooting under night vision to deal with the limitations of the LPVO in that regard.

[@Heywoodthepeckerwood]

@@Kinetic.44passive night vision shooting.

[@Silkyshooter]

I feel like another issue with LPVOs for newer shooters is they may not be willing to drop the coin necessary to get a good one. I had a few cheaper options when I started and never really liked them. However, I own a razor hd gen 2-e and a K16i and my opinion has completely changed. The glass quality, clearness, and huge eyebox has made these some of my favorites. Throw a top mounted rmr and they do pretty much everything I can ask from. 5.56 gun

[@millicent_bystander141]

I've never been this early to a video before lol. Good stuff keep up the good work.

[@chevrofreak]

The Primary Arms 1-6x ACSS NOVA has the brightest reticle I have ever seen. I can shoot it in broad daylight on the 1st or 2nd power levels in most situations. It is a super clear 1x, with almost no distortion, but it is SFP, so there's that.

[@brendanleach8971]

I had an LVPO (cheap vortex one on my first ar which was a PSA) but now I think I'm going to go with an ACOG+RMR to pair with my Geissele SD upper. I have places that can go out to 400 yards which is one of the reasons. But the primary reason is because I'm clumsy and break stuff all of the time so it sounds like the ACOG+RMR is the best option for me

[@rilesmattix5217]

Your gun and optics are much more durable than you think. Train with and abuse your rifle. Replace failing parts with better parts and grow your faith in the parts that don't fail. Also locktite EVERYTHING.

[@harrisontanner4948]

What vortex did you have? I was looking at the 1-6 strike eagle but now this video has me second guessing an LPVO 😂

[@brendanleach8971]

@@harrisontanner4948 1-6 strike eagle 😂. It's ok but don't expect too much from it

[@harrisontanner4948]

@@brendanleach8971 well shit now I’m back to the drawing board I guess

[@brendanleach8971]

@@harrisontanner4948 it's not bad per se... But you have to remember it's a $300ish LVPO so don't expect it to do something like what a VCOG can do

[@rodneymoore7270]

I AM BLESSED .... THE BEST OUT OF POCKET NO INSURANCE INVOLVEL MEDICAL MONEY I SPENT WAS LASIK BACK IN THE DAY!!!!! Decades later I am no longer 20-20 but still so close that I still drive with no correction needed.

[@wcw2793]

I've been really happy with the ACOG & RMR combo on my 13.9. It was a great optic to go back to basics and learn proper zero and holds with a scope after getting frustrated with the LPVO (thanks Executive Training Group!). I haven't had much eye relief issues with it and the RMR sitting high doesn't bother me either since I'm used to shooting with a red dot on an A1 upper. When it comes to red dots themselves, Aimpoint all day. They're tough and reliable and the single dot is all I need. In all honesty though, trying to find out which optic to get goes back to one simple question: where do I live? If you're in a city or dense town/suburbia, then the red dot will probably be best since you may own something that's 14.5 or shorter. If you're living out in a small town or rural area, then the ACOG or LPVO is gonna be your best option since you probably own something 13.7 or longer.

[@sickjohnson]

Definitely one of the better Optics type choices videos out there guys...well done. For the few that have disposable income...that can spend double or more, there is another option to consider out there, the Elcan SpecterDR 1.5-6x5.56mm Rifle Scope?

[@christianbondra2570]

Elcan obviously

[@stevo4535]

Look at all those FPV drone shots!!

[@andrewvachon1943]

Everyone is different, I can say that I spent well into the five figures to get to the point where I figured out a Ta31 rmr stack is ideal for me. I do not recommend optics to most people, I provide options and play devils advocate, even let people borrow my gear, but I wont tell you what to buy.

[@a-t5380]

So you tell most people to run irons?? On a rifle?

[@andrewvachon1943]

@@a-t5380 I most certainly do not. I can tell you what I like to run and why. I can tell you what I don’t like and why. But I will bot tell somebody that they have to run a particular setup. I absolutely hate LPVOs, a ton of people disagree and that is fine. I am a trijicon whore who has more acogs than any other type of rifle optic combined, some people are not willing to accept the compromises inherent to the design. I do however harbor a deep seated hatred of iron sights only people as I consider them truly stupid, but that is their choice.

[@a-t5380]

@@andrewvachon1943 oh OK. I just have a romeo 5 on My AR15 sighted in at 25 yards. We have a AR ban up here in WA state or else I would try out some other optics on other builds. I like my romeo 5 but I'm also not doing any room clearing or long distance shooting. Mostly just flat range stuff and home defence (thus the 25 yard zero)

[@wtdconcepts]

I normally skip the cool guy B-roll intro but TREX videography is next level and I can't look away!

[@christopherbyrd5185]

I bought a red dot and magnifier. Then realized I had an astigmatism. Ugh.

[@rustyknifelover4463]

KZbin is playing games with my subscription for you. Third time I have had to subscribe.

[@tylergarrett4498]

would've been cool to fly the drone parallel to the flight path of the saw to get that change in sound

[@LukeHuchMusic]

Best video on the internet on this subject. Well done.

[@DesertTactical]

Pretty sick video, Lucas. Even though I cant afford these optics, I always learn stuff just by watching which I can implement in the stuff I can afford. I haver zero experience with LPVO’s which is something I want to get into. This video cleared some stuff up.

[@davidhoffpauir1963]

Did he just run that course in skinny jeans?!

[@54tristin]

Yes

[@TheNerdGun]

That intro was hotter then them suppressors got. Its so not fair you can own that beautiful lmg

[@distastedefense]

You don’t need any gizmos like an optic sonny, that’s what irons are for!

[@James_Bee]

They are nice for quick target acquisition or magnification for distance, but I'm in the camp of getting proficient with irons before even considering optics.

[@kdb1891]

Dang Lucas was actually kinda cool in this video. Idk what it was but I wasn't cringing the whole time. He just seemed genuine and relaxed

[@GammaRayTrae]

I went the lpvo route specially the tango 6T. It’s heavy but it’s durable. I’ve banged it around and dropped it and it’s held zero. I wish I love the ACOG I really do because it is lighter but you’re right that eye relief is horrible, I remove the rear iron sight but I still can’t do it.

[@MotoJB]

LVPO with backup 45 degree offset for the up close and personal stuff seems to work pretty good too. My go to in most situations though would be an aimpoint with 3x magnifier. Faster overall and accurate out to 200 easy, and no issues with lighting that you can have through LVPO's. There is nothing I can't do well, with those two setups. Never went the ACOG / RMR route.

[@Kinetic.44]

What's the point of a LPVO if you need a separate 1x optic?!

[@Briathos1]

Just new boot goofin’. Genuine ostrich too.

[@000NULL]

I like the Spitfire HD 5x G2, which can be bought at PSA for $200...insane value. Get an adapter plate for a top dot, throw whatever dot on there, and its a super, super capable optics combo for less than $700, and its light! Take that weight savings and give your barrel some extra length.

[@chaoticdeertick7213]

I bought two of those. Best bang for the buck optic deal I've seen over the last 3 years.

[@FirstnameLastname-vy2dg]

ONLY Jesus Christ can save you!

[@TeronLin]

We know that’s why he made someone who made guns. God bless you brother. Go get a gun. And always keep God first and a gun right after that

[@Pays2Win]

Amen brother

[@TA.Muscle]

Luke 22:36 a call to readiness and vigilance

[@xaviercooper2070]

Spiritually speaking sure,. I call em Yeshua but hey different convo. However, physically speaking, do some pushups, run, get a firearm and grow some confidence with that firearm. ONLY YU CAN SAVE YU, Brother #Love

[@WestSidetheBestSide971]

All these Jesus radical nuts 😂😂 they turn to Jesus when their life falls apart

[@danielblackburn4626]

I’m a red-dot + magnifier fan , I place my rear backup irons in front of red-dot. Yes, lose sight radius length but when all batteries 🪫 fail , irons is better than nothing. I’ve run EoTech, AimPoint, Holosun, Leupold, Bushnell, Sig, Steiner, and others. My personal favorite is the Holosun but dislike it’s battery life. Combined with a BCM Op Mod stock you’ll have plenty of battery storage space. I also op for the longer foregrip with battery compartment for my EoTech build. I think the EoTech has over 20k rounds on it, 9+ years old. Also some more emphasis should be made for the etched reticle of LPVO. If you “trash them” and can no longer zoom leaving set at 1X is still very functional and not a total loss. If power and batteries are not available, etched glass wins. Add 45 deg offset iron sights and leave zero’d at 5X. I’m also a big fan of PCC in 9mm and in which case you could run a more compact dot like a Leupold Delta Point Pro which costs less than an EoTech. Big emphasis for this benefit is your handgun (sidearm) and carbine match optics and magazines & caliber . If your immediate family and friends all get the same red dots and mags you have a tremendous overlap if one system fails for sharing of parts and compatibly. I know enclosed emitters are the big rave but with super bright forward light my DPP runs great. Some of the enclosed units I’ve tested get a weird red halo.

[@JohnJones-op8uf]

I want all your brass... dang it man, that's gold to us reloaders!