Recently I upgraded to a 180 CBN wheel ….. really enjoy the upgrade from the “white” wheel. Really learning that taking the time to improve my sharpening skills has increased my enjoyment turning. I definitely started out with tools that were not sharp enough, and I was having to force the cuts. As my sharpening skills progress, the effort needed to cut has decreased, and I get better results. I still have a way to go, but your videos are a big help! Thank you Tomislav 🤠🇨🇱
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning21 күн бұрын
Thank you Randy, so glad it helped and that your turning is now more enjoyable
@jamescarter881314 күн бұрын
I have used belt sanders, friable wheels and CBN wheels through out my turning career to sharpen my tools.The CBN is by far the best that I have used. I use a 180 and 350 grit wheels in my set up. I find the 350 for gouges and setting the skew angle. The 350 grit has given me a keen edge for a clean surface, without sacrificing edge life. I use a 600 grit CBN hone at the start of every project to give a fresh edge on my skews, it keeps them sharp without need to walk to the grinder. It has served me well throughout my career. I have used the Tormek with a 600 grit wheel and found the edge didn't last long enough for the surface benefit. Great video, it really comes down to the needs of each turner.
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning11 күн бұрын
True ,I agree,we all have our preferences
@edwardashford956922 күн бұрын
You are sharpening better on the 60 grit with no rest than I am with a rest on the white wheel. I love my new 180 CBN as I remove a lot less metal when touching up the edge, and definitely get a lot less burnt edge as I do not have your light touch. My father did, when I started turning it was on his lathe, and he sharpened the tools for me on a grey 80 grit 6" grinder with no rest. When he gave me the lathe it took a long time before I had well sharpened tools! Great video. Yes 180 grit is fine enough. The less you need to push the tool, the nicer the cut. Dad would say "obviously" 😂
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
Thank you sir very much
@TinyWoodworks21 күн бұрын
Another excellent video! I’m a very new woodturner and your videos and Richard’s videos have been the best. All the other KZbin turners I came across made me think that I needed to buy all kinds of fancy tools and jigs to make anything. Thank you for making wood turning more accessible.
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
Glad to help out as I start with so little that it might shock someone., but it could be good video idea. Thank you
@wimdejong539921 күн бұрын
Well done Tomislav, for giving us a better understanding. Thanks
@stephenmcfadyen138521 күн бұрын
Tomislav, great comparison video. Like most turners I started out with silicon carbide (grey) and aluminum oxide (white) wheels on a 6-inch grinder. I had good results and replaced the wheels when they lost around 1-inch, they are a lot cheaper to purchase than the initial cost of the CBN. as you point out, upgrading to CBN means no more loss of wheel diameter through grinding and dressing the wheel. I now use 8-inch CBN, and they leave a wider hollow grind. One can argue that hollow grind tools are sharper but lose their edge quicker versus a flat ground tool. I sharpen my skews and woodworking chisels on a flat diamond plate, and I believe the skew holds the edge longer. It takes a bit longer to sharpen and for a production turner this is time wasted. Thank you.
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
Thank you sir for your input,its very much appreciated and could help out someone,😀
@michaelogden595822 күн бұрын
I've used 80 and 180 CBN since day 1 in my little hobby shop. I'm not saying my choice is the best, but the setup works pretty well for me.
@jrneff977321 күн бұрын
i am new to turning found a lathe it runs to 650, rpm thinking of fixing it or a new one the tools i hand stoned a skew one night to shave my arm hair touched it to a piece of western ceder went dude fast like fast . is sharp good or burrs better ugh
@michaelogden595821 күн бұрын
@@jrneff9773 Burrs are better for scrapers, "sharp" is better for gouges and skews. In my opinion, it's much easier to turn at higher RPMs. I recommend as a first lathe, something like the JET 1221 VS. There are several lathes in this class, and can be found "used". Just my two-cents. If you ask a dozen turners their opinions, you will surely get 15 separate recommendations. Cheers!
@johnnyb9567822 күн бұрын
Thank you for the informative demonstration. I just received my 180 grit CBN wheel and lovin' it. Continuing to learn the sharpening skills and have a ways to go. Thank you!
@hairy18020 күн бұрын
You are certainly a very good and talented teacher
@simonprunster273322 күн бұрын
Thank you for the effort and great, informative video! The only real advantage of very fine wheels and razor-sharp tools is the low cutting resistance. I often turn extremely thin and flexible objects. In this case, I have no chance of getting it done with 180 grit. I love your videos. Thank you!
@BobBlarneystone21 күн бұрын
Thanks for the useful informatoin. About a year ago, I settled on an 80gr white wheel and a 180gr CBN, which seems to be a good combination of economy and utility.
@robertreihsen909621 күн бұрын
Your videos are so informative and fun to watch. Thank you!
@luvwud21 күн бұрын
Very well explained and demonstrated Tomislav. Geoff
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
Thank you Geoff
@woodymadam21 күн бұрын
Great informative video, thanks Tomislav 😊
@William_Kenny20 күн бұрын
Great video tomislav, very informative thanks for sharing buddy, Will.👍
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
Thanks buddy
@baconsoda21 күн бұрын
Very useful, thank you Tomislav.
@oldgeezer174616 күн бұрын
Great topic, thanks for sharing.
@DavidBird-uu8km20 күн бұрын
Very nice, a great information video. You do need to get tool rests for other grinder wheels.
@SirBenJamin_19 күн бұрын
Looking forward to the same test with scrapers 😄👍🏼
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning19 күн бұрын
Soon ,very soon
@stevenhansen864118 күн бұрын
🕶very helpful Tomislav. Thanks
@toddlajiness21 күн бұрын
Great video, thanks for the information!!
@hairy18020 күн бұрын
I love your videos. They are so helpful
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning19 күн бұрын
Thank you, glad to hear that 😀
@dakotamax222 күн бұрын
Looks like you are well set for production on the refiner!
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning21 күн бұрын
Almost 😁
@PoisonShot2021 күн бұрын
Excelent, as always! Now, using a finer grit will take les metal to achieve same result as coarsed ones. Tool cutting will last longer, it make sense Tomislav?
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning21 күн бұрын
Yes,true, but with 180 or even 80 cbn I'm not taking milimetars at once,with light feel and touch its still a small ammount of metal. But yes,600 grit will.take small amounts off but also there is a risk of clogging and also its hard to sometimes sharpen on really fine grit,especially freehand as its taking so little that it take s a while to get the edge sharp.
@PoisonShot2021 күн бұрын
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Just picking your brain, and doing so I learned. We have to formulated our questions according to our recever in our brain, I got what I was looking for. Apreciated that you take time to awnser my questions! How can I buy your signature tools, I'm in US.
@markduggan345121 күн бұрын
Great information.
@nhaist691021 күн бұрын
Thanks for the comparison. I wonder how the skew would perform on soft or punky wood with these different edges….
@balahmay21 күн бұрын
Interesting how close the results are on all of this. Isn’t the dust from those grinding activities a bit of a concern? You can’t pull it into the extractor because of sparks? Maybe use a good dust mask if you are doing a lot of grinding perhaps?
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
Its not that airborne in my mind and I don't sharpen a tone to be all the time in that dust.... but its always good idea to wear mask in any airborne stuff
@krperry200710 күн бұрын
Do you think it matters to grind away from the edge vs. toward the edge ?
@Gee-bx3zh22 күн бұрын
Thank you for the demonstration. I don't have the experience but could the 180 gliding better through the wood be partially due to having a single facet as that was the only time it was sharpened on a tool rest? I just got a giant grinder that's really old but very balanced. I'm excited to put a cbn wheel on it eventually. Thanks for the video :)
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning21 күн бұрын
Could be, although I think its due to sharper edge, sharper means less friction😀
@ericmoorehead110022 күн бұрын
Curious about 6” vs 8” CBN wheels. I have a 6” grinder that I am wanting to upgrade to CBN.
@jrneff977321 күн бұрын
i to have 3 6 inch grinders how do we set them up?
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
6 inch is not bad, remember that you might have to remove heal of the tools more often because of the tighter radius but other then than it will.work ok just like 8 inch.
@richardmisdom100422 күн бұрын
I recently replaced an old 600 CBN which clogged and would no longer grind efficiently with a 180. I suspect it not only is an ideal grit but also should outlast the finer grit cbns.
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning21 күн бұрын
Something I haven't think off is clogging fine wheels that can happen. Thank you for your input
@jamesbrunk981721 күн бұрын
Does the CBN improve the life of the tool since it does not remove as much metal?
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
80 grit cbn can remove a lot of metal but it saves life in regards heat more then anything in my opinion
@krperry200710 күн бұрын
I have 350 grit cbn 8”@1750rpm. It’s really hard not to burn the edge.
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning9 күн бұрын
Its super fine wheel and maybe clogged so that is why it's burning.... doesn't matter which way you go😀
@krperry20079 күн бұрын
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning Thank you.
@kenvasko228522 күн бұрын
I have 6" stones that are starting to wear down. At what diameter should I replace them? 5"? 4"?
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning20 күн бұрын
That is good question, I would not use less then 4,5 inch , maybe even 5 inch... It will produce tighter radius and your tools might be difficult to control
@kenvasko228520 күн бұрын
@@tomislavtomasicwoodturning I think it makes more of a difference in a fixture thanks free hand sharpening.
@rayperrault831622 күн бұрын
What makes a refiner different from a scraper?
@tomislavtomasicwoodturning21 күн бұрын
Scraper is broad term, refiner is scraper, name is only to be recognised along other tools and that the viewers can tell apart what tools I use. Its standard scraper,but what it makes different is bevel angle of 45 and shape and little notch for details. Also added value is that I will offer sharpening just the way I use them and it will be ready to use straight out of the package