Which Shutter Should You Use? Mechanical vs Electronic vs EFCS on Fuji X-H1

[@thomas_the_cat]

in a nutshell... mechanical when: - moving subject - not a lot of natural light electronic when: - still subject - plenty of natural light - u need to be silent

[@dagmerrie]

EFCS for long exposure and landscape

[@hpeterh]

I think the difference between mechanical and EFC shutter can be explained by parallaxe. With mechanical shutter the first and second curtain have the same parallaxe. With EFC the first curtain has no parallaxe and the second curtain has parallaxe. The mechanical shutter sits some millimeters before the sensor, while the electronic first curtain is exactly 0mm before the sensor. So this effect should be most pronounced with fast shutter speed and bright wide angle lenses, where the light doesnt hit the sensor in a 90° angle. And there is another effect: When shutterspeed is high, the there is only a small slit where light passes to the sensor. The shutter blades are matte black and dont reflect much light. The sensor itself reflects a lot of light, so when electronic shutter or EFC is used, this can give unwanted reflections in the rear lenses.

[@Tom28770]

Ming, even though your most excellent video is three years old it continues to educate and help others. My new camera has all three types of shutters with no explanation other than how to turn them on and off, so your in depth video is an outstanding teaching aid. Thank you for taking the time to make this video and pass your knowledge to the less experienced.

[@nomnom8692]

My fave explanation so far, seems for me EFCS is the best option. Thanks for the video!

[@V8rgr8]

Thank you for showing the differences between the shutter types. I have been worried about switching to electronic shutter, but now that I know the differences, I will try using it with more confidense.

[@MingCai]

Stanley Morinaka That’s awesome!

[@sclogse1]

This was great. First day with a Fuji T-2. Many questions.

[@Nearest_Neighbor]

This sums it up great. Now I know which video I'm going to show people if they're asking about this topic.

[@nussberger]

Thanks for shedding light on this. Well presented!

[@MingCai]

Gregor Nussberger Thank you for your comment

[@ChrisLeeX]

Excellent concise script, A+ production value. Best explanation of shutters. Thank you for sharing.

[@GOMD77]

Thanks for the awesome summary at the end! Best video on this subject so far!

[@rutlegs]

The best explanation of shutter modes that I've seen! Thanks very much!

[@kenmcdougall6106]

Excellent video Ming, in every way You explained it all really clearly and you also put the bullet points in the text - what's not to like? Subscribed

[@Drunken_Hamster]

4:11 So glad you mentioned global shutter. The only real solution, especially for video.

[@mikafoxx2717]

Video is still only double the framerate for shutter speed, so usually it's not an issue. Arri isn't a global shutter.

[@Drunken_Hamster]

@@mikafoxx2717 The 180-degree rule is garbage. Also, not what this video is about. It's the TYPE of shutter that this video is about. Rolling shutter is caused by the shutter/sensor only working line by line. The only way to eliminate that if you can't make the readout any faster is to use a global shutter. Global shutter is the future and how ALL cameras should function by default.

[@mikafoxx2717]

@@Drunken_Hamster It's not garbage, it's due to how our eyes perceive sample and hold as unnatural, so we need to blur between the frames to reduce eye fatigue to emulate the frames between frames. There's a reason to it. It's a bendable rule but a good rule nevertheless. I agree global shutter is great but unrealistic, just having really fast sensor readout is good enough and gets rid of an expensive mechanical shutter (especially when it fails).

[@Drunken_Hamster]

@@mikafoxx2717 Yeah, but motion blur doesn't "scale" to frame rate. If you have 1/60th of a second shutter speed, that means each frame captures 1/60th of a second of motion and will have 1/60th of a second of blur. It doesn't matter if you do it once, 24 times, 30 times, 50 times, or 60 times every second, each frame will have the same amount of blur and will look the same amount "natural." But if you scale the shutter speed to the frame rate, then every time you raise the frame rate you're also reducing the motion blur, which looks unnatural. The 180-degree rule is one of the primary reasons people tend to dislike the look of HFR and why people will have such a stuck up their ass about 24fps even over the much better looking 30fps (imo, at least for everything except LITERALLY a Hollywood level traditional production movie).

[@MacBookAir-cu4fb]

Thanks a lot! finally after about 4 videos I understood the differences between all the shutter modes!

[@motleykingdom9394]

Thanks. This sums up why I got those lines/bands and some warping when setting my shutter to silent (and those no longer fully mechanical) when shooting indoor stage shows. Shooting on a Sony a7iv.

[@mikr0bi]

Finally I understood! Unfortunatelly I met with shutter shock, that is why using ef or es. Thanks for expanation!

[@DjVojto]

Finaly found a reasonable video why i got flickwring.. i use always silent shooting. And now i see that if i want to shoot fast object or concerts mechanical is a way! Thanks

[@rayt2905]

Its almost as if using EFCS is causing the aperture to ever so slightly close down...this is consistent with the dual observation of reduced exposure and increased depth of field with EFCS! A very interesting optical phenomenon...must be pursued further in my opinion. BTW, Ming was my favourite villian from Flash Gordon!

[@Kaziriasatalve.]

Thanks a lot. I've been clarified about different types of shutter on my Fujifilm

[@alexmorales9065]

This was a great video explaining the different shutters. Thanks homie!

[@franktsui7618]

thanks for sharing mate. your illustration is very straightforward and easily understood

[@LukeLine]

This was super useful when using my XH1, keep the Fuji vids coming 👍

[@mohammedsamsheer284]

Do you like the XH!? planning to buy one

[@LukeLine]

@@mohammedsamsheer284 yeah i love it!

[@mohammedsamsheer284]

@@LukeLine is it as heavy or large as people make it to seem?

[@LukeLine]

mohammed samsheer nope not at all, it’s just a little chunky XT2 with a much needed grip for bigger lenses like my 16-55f2.8 it only get v big when you have a large zoom and the battery grip

[@alimog9347]

wowwowowowowowow i like the explanaition so much the first one to explain it this clear thanks brother

[@macolganjames5937]

Thanks for explaining the shutter options and reasons where each is better. This I just another of your many valuable videos on the xt series which I save for future reference 🙂

[@av8dr]

Best explanation of shutters. Thanks.

[@Karthik-The-Photographer]

Thanks a lot for sharing this man ♥️ love this one !

[@vinicius050788]

Best video I found about this topic. Much appreciated!

[@brahmabeharrysingh5287]

Very comprehensive presentation. Thumbs up!

[@codeecubix]

Thanks for the test cases

[@michalkovac8382]

Great video :) Now i so much better understand diferents between them. Thank you maestro from Slovakia :)

[@bh9262]

I love the graphics. Very helpful.

[@terencegibbons5455]

Thank you for explaining this so well

[@mia-to7wy]

Thanks for the explanation Ming

[@danw.7483]

Great explanation mate, well done.

[@Bandre0114]

Such a perfect explanation! Thank you so much!

[@izzee50]

Exactly what I am looking for. Thanks man!

[@youmarci]

Please make more videos about X-h1!! Great video,thank you!!

[@MingCai]

youmarci Sure thing and thank you very much for you comment!

[@youmarci]

@@MingCai again,please make an x-h1 tutorial :)

[@psxdadz]

youmarci yes this

[@qusai_aesthetics]

Thank you so much for describing this ❤

[@fredpearson5204]

Thank you for posting this excellent explanation of the different shutter types.

[@MingCai]

Fred Pearson Thank you for the comment!

[@fredpearson5204]

@@MingCai, no, thank you for posting useful information in a sea of useless, mind-numbing vlog/videos.

[@ralphwatson7036]

Best explanation I've seen of this subject. Thanks for preparing it.

[@MingCai]

Ralph Watson You are welcome

[@RyanHicks]

This was a really solid video on so many levels. Super helpful.

[@georgesealy4706]

Great job. Well organized and presented. Thanks.

[@kennethlui2268]

Excellent information and video. Thank you.

[@javier20pixels]

Thanks... Very clear yor information.

[@jorylor]

Thank you for sharing. Very good explanation.

[@gurleyhardin6370]

Greetings from México Ming, Thank you very much for a fantastic video! I learned a lot today.

[@MingCai]

Gurley Hardin Hey Gurley, glad it helps!

[@maurice1376]

Super well explained, thanks for that! 🙏

[@colinmelhuish1254]

Thanks for posting. Excellent explanation.

[@law1951]

Excellent explanation with no BS. Many thanks :-)

[@TobermoryCat]

Presume merchanical shutters wear out too.... I guess there is a predicted shutter count life. informative, thanks.

[@denizkendirci]

i think bokeh is the same but the contrast is higher out of depth of field which gives the impression that es has less bokeh.

[@clarkeeeee]

Electronic shutter is also much faster than mechanical shutter, at least as far as I know for cameras with "leaf" shutters, like my Fujifilm. Therefore, if you need faster consecutive shots, electronic can do this. In addition, if you are using a fast lens like the f1 50mm, without a neutral density filter of some kind to decrease exposure time, you might need to use the electronic shutter to avoid getting photos that are too bright or washed out. That's all I know that might be useful.

[@arcastro938]

Loved your explanation! Thank you!

[@dcblogs]

Very helpful! Thanks!

[@eldesarmadero2788]

Great video! Thanks!

[@silvanofalivena9642]

Best explanation! Thank you!

[@1717jbs]

Great vid Ming! Thanks.

[@barrycohen311]

ES is good if you are in very bright light, and want a low f-stop, f 1.8 or whatever. For mechanical shutter, one would need to use an ND filter.

[@jorgedesousa8361]

Great video! Very well explained!

[@MingCai]

jorge de sousa Thank you very much!

[@divinemoment5]

Thank you so much Ming for a very well explained instructions. I don’t know why some can give a thumbs dn for such excellent video. I hv 3 questions: 1) I saw there is still a curtain moving for EFC and you mentioned there is no vibration. In theory will there be still a vibration but is so minute that prob would not be noticeable? Does EFC register shutter count? 2) Both EFC and Electronic has certain limitation for shutter speed. And the latter will cause banding as well under certain light condition. Assuming speed is within range and under ideal light conditions, is EFC or Electronic better to bring out the sharpest and most dynamic range and with the least noise. 3) Do you have any ideal what is the bit value for each type of shutter? I read a comment in a forum that electronic shutter normally has lesser bit but he can’t confirm. I can’t find such info despite I google extensively. TQ so much.

[@MingCai]

David Low I am not sure if he refers to bit depth, I don’t think shutter type has anything to do with the bit depth, so EFC and Electronic shutter should give you the same bits

[@divinemoment5]

@@MingCai Thank you Ming

[@Tbonyandsteak]

Blur also happens and longer shuttertimes, when the tripod is not steady enough.

[@ianjohnstone1061]

Well done Ming - Shutters/Flash differences would be good if feasible. Cheers AU.

[@MingCai]

Ian Johnstone Did some more research and it seems mechanical shutter would be the best for flash.

[@arielalejandrogarma3672]

hello ming very well explained congratulations !!!👌👌

[@MingCai]

Ariel alejandro Giesler Thank you!

[@puredistancegolf]

Nice job. Follow this guy!

[@luissalazar2021]

Thanks for sharing

[@just4therecord]

I watch 3 videos before I got the full understanding of this subject here. The example shots helped a lot. Thanks for that...Btw mine has Auto setting but no Front Curtain. I wonder if I should let the camera decides

[@colinhothersall8343]

Thanks for a great explanation.

[@MingCai]

Colin Hothersall Thank you!

[@AlHR23]

Well explained and helpful video - keep up the good work :)

[@MingCai]

lat2310 Thank you!

[@user-charlieccchong]

Thanks. Excellent video

[@Martin-nu6ym]

I lost some beautiful shots of birds in action because I forgot to get the Fuji camera out of EFCS. :( Gave me smearing in random areas of the photos. Mainly use mechanical because I like being ready to use a flash and to never again have the smearing effect. Will use ES for focus stacking though and event photography if I don't have to worry about bending and/or banding.

[@bioliv1]

So it's not recommended to use EFCS with flash?

[@Martin-nu6ym]

@@bioliv1 It starts to become a gamble if banding could occur if used with HSS. From what I can tell, using the flash sync speed or slower should not be an issue.

[@TheDecree93]

This was so easy to understand, thanks!

[@MingCai]

TheDecree93 Thank you for watching and commenting!

[@vinod8june]

1...how to find which shutter are hooked in out cameras...??

[@parkyx]

Great video, thanks! Nit-picking here, but the photos were taken "by" you and "with" the camera. Lesson I learned 1st day in photography class, "you" are the artist, not the camera. :)

[@stanleyprendergast2133]

So the question I have to anybody is when shooting street photography which is normally what I do what shutter settings do you use our use electronics plus mechanical shutter

[@videobyjnt]

Thank you, great explanation!

[@qilight]

Late to comment, but when using the fast lenses at f2 or wider (as in your 35mm and 90mm) at a shutter speed over 1/2000, you will begin to see a degradation of the bokeh that will get worse as you increase the shutter speed when using the EFCS. Fuji and Canon do recommend to switch to MS in this situation.

[@Anderson_Anderas]

very good video, dude! Thanks!

[@tazzamund]

Thanks!

[@andrew107]

Thank you that was great, so for landscapes handheld should use mechanical shutter, would I still get the sharpest images more than using electronic without a tripod

[@bjarnejohannsen573]

Very usefull - thank You!

[@76Jvt]

Nice video.

[@matheeq]

Very useful info. Thanks Ming.

[@MingCai]

matheeq You are welcome!

[@civelekerdem]

Thank you!

[@aronlengyel]

Very informative. Thank you!

[@MingCai]

Aron Lengyel You are welcome

[@stevesvids]

Subscribed 👍 Just wanted to say.... something I have found out after much head scratching. I put the supplied xt3 flash on my camera... and found that it simply wouldn't operate or turn on in the menus. I thought it must be broken... I then wondered perhaps if it might be related to shutter. I changed my shutter from ES to EF and hey presto... TTL flash became available. I presume this was camera telling me that no way can it take a flash photo while in ES mode due to the read write speeds of the pixels during the flash sequence. Quite a puzzler as theres no clues given in camera when the flash doesnt engage. All the best... regards.... Steve

[@MingCai]

Steve D That’s a nice finding! Thank you for sharing

[@miguelosorio6062]

Thanks for the good explanation. I have a Fuji X-T20 which only has MS and ES (not ESFC). Apart from the "silence benefit", when should I use ES? Thanks in advance.

[@markbickerstaffe1899]

Really helpful thanks

[@yummypugs]

What do you think of using the EF + M + ES setting on the camera? Would this give the best of all worlds? Otherwise the Camera will not go over 1/8000 when shooting in bright light.

[@googo151]

Hi Ming, I think he's saying shutter "Shake"!

[@TheCallie52809]

If you're using electronic front curtain shutter, does it count as a shutter count? I know that the mechanical shutter counts each click but I'm not sure if the electronic shutter counts each click.

[@wailabdelgaphar609]

Thanks

[@arifkizilay]

thank you.

[@naijafootballphotographer]

Nice educational lecture. As a new sports photographer in Nigeria using the Fuji XT30 with the 50-140mm f/2.8. What type of shutter would you use if it was your job to shoot the football games?

[@MingCai]

Don Barron Studios since you need fast shutter speed, you can probably avoid shutter shock, therefore I would use mechanical shutter

[@ljknh]

Very helpful!

[@MingCai]

Linda K Thank you !

[@veteq101]

Another great video

[@MingCai]

veteq101 Thank you!

[@antdx316]

Basically, will rolling shutter be an issue? if so use Mechanical, if not use Electronic.

[@funkywholaa]

Graphic is very nice

[@joshmcdzz6925]

how do these shutter types compare in relation to shutter count on the camera?

[@Kayserjp]

does this affect in movie mode too? because for sony A7 III the setting is in the movie section....

[@arlaimmagine6957]

excellent 🔝