Mechanical vs Electronic Shutter - Which one is right for you?

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Forest Chaput de Saintonge

Forest Chaput de Saintonge

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In this video we talk about the differences between a mechanical shutter and an electronic shutter, and discuss which might be best for you.
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00:00 - Intro
00:06 - Where the setting lives
00:38 - The difference between mechanical and electronic
03:54 - The advantages of an electronic shutter
06:30 - The disadvantages of the electronic shutter
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@alexmarnoch870
@alexmarnoch870 Жыл бұрын
Finally! someone has answered all my questions re. electronic shutters. Thank you!
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
You’re welcome!
@patrickmcmahon818
@patrickmcmahon818 10 ай бұрын
Thank you! This has been the best explanation of how the electronic shutter works.
@bittertruth6175
@bittertruth6175 3 ай бұрын
Excellent. A born talented teacher. Lesson us more frequently. Thanks.
@fredrogers4186
@fredrogers4186 Жыл бұрын
This is one of those things I never tried to learn because I didn't think I'd ever understand it. Now I do thanks to you. THANKS!
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Glad to help!!
@FrancoisdeMelogue
@FrancoisdeMelogue 2 ай бұрын
I always have appreciated the way describe things - very clear. Thanks
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 2 ай бұрын
You are very welcome!
@WalkingEpi
@WalkingEpi 9 ай бұрын
Gr8 video. Thank YOU 🙏 very informative 🙂
@adude394
@adude394 4 ай бұрын
This was hugely helpful! Thanks for posting!
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 4 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful, thank you for watching!
@sutv6754
@sutv6754 9 ай бұрын
EXCELLENT LESSON. THANK YOU.
@72Trainer
@72Trainer 5 ай бұрын
All the info I needed, thank you.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 5 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@_peterduncan
@_peterduncan 10 ай бұрын
Now i know. Thank you! You helped me so much 😊
@ferdierej
@ferdierej Жыл бұрын
Thanks bud! really appreciate all the explanation. Good job!
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Glad it helped!
@Henqi
@Henqi 7 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video! The demonstration really helps! :)
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 7 ай бұрын
Glad it helped!
@user-jj5fq6ed9f
@user-jj5fq6ed9f 5 ай бұрын
asnwered all my questions. thank you bro!
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 5 ай бұрын
Happy to help!
@IvoPavlik
@IvoPavlik Жыл бұрын
Thank you. You are a good teacher. PS: Electronic shutter can be pretty advantageous for time-lapse videographers because they tend to take enormous amounts of shots.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Absolutely! Great point.
@rainerramos89
@rainerramos89 Жыл бұрын
This video is so far the best ever comparing both technologies. Very nice! Subscribed ✅
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Thank you!
@1stephenward
@1stephenward 11 ай бұрын
great video, simple, clean and to the point
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it!
@1Kenpatchi1
@1Kenpatchi1 6 ай бұрын
Thank you thank you! I am learning photography (teaching myself through reading, videos and giving it a go) and this is the ONLY video I have watched that explained this in a way I could understand. Can't wait to see your other videos! Thank you again. :)
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 6 ай бұрын
You're very welcome! glad to hear that we can help!
@jaykrishnan8716
@jaykrishnan8716 11 ай бұрын
Best explanation on this topic I have ever heard 👋👌Thanks boss ☺️
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 11 ай бұрын
Thanks and welcome
@alicarubanenko5529
@alicarubanenko5529 7 ай бұрын
Such an awesome explanation. Thank you.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 7 ай бұрын
You're very welcome!
@cmalc8
@cmalc8 29 күн бұрын
Good logical explanation and summary. Thanks !
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 27 күн бұрын
You are welcome!
@juanlujano4895
@juanlujano4895 10 ай бұрын
Great explanation
@harddriverecordingandfilmsNY
@harddriverecordingandfilmsNY 9 ай бұрын
I'm new to mirrorless, thank you for this great explanation. subbed
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 8 ай бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@thilinaalagiyawanna3680
@thilinaalagiyawanna3680 9 ай бұрын
Thank you very much
@veesoho93
@veesoho93 Жыл бұрын
Great video great precise info thank you
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@MrTmiket0007
@MrTmiket0007 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing another wonderful video like always 👍🤗
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Thank you for watching!!
@potatosalad68
@potatosalad68 Ай бұрын
Very useful, thank you
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@esanford
@esanford 11 ай бұрын
Nice Job!
@esther1956
@esther1956 7 ай бұрын
Best explanation ever, thanks. Working wih my X-pro 2 now for a while, saw the choice I had, but now the mystery is solved…
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 7 ай бұрын
Thank you!
@jasoncatlyn7331
@jasoncatlyn7331 Ай бұрын
Thanks for the info.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Ай бұрын
You bet!
@SienbhaRymbai
@SienbhaRymbai 9 ай бұрын
Thank You
@yacko00
@yacko00 19 күн бұрын
Excellent video!
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 18 күн бұрын
Thank you!
@fengshuischoolindonesia6161
@fengshuischoolindonesia6161 Жыл бұрын
wow, good explanation ............... thankyou.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@reviewerorg8040
@reviewerorg8040 11 ай бұрын
youtube is a valuable place because of people like you. Very informative and exactly what I needed to know! thanks! p.s. I have one question: why doesn't mechanical shutter also have the rolling shutter effect? since as you said the curtain moves from top to bottom the sensor should read the information from top to bottom as well, the same as what electronic shutter does.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 11 ай бұрын
Thank you! That's a great question. You are correct! You actually can get very minor rolling shutter with very fast mechanical shutter speeds because of the two curtains moving together and exposing the different parts of the sensor at different times. The thing is, our cameras are so fast, we don't see or notice it in most use cases, where electronic rolling shutter is much more obvious. Here is a great forum post on Stack Exchange about it. The second answer addresses your question perfectly: electronics.stackexchange.com/questions/376797/why-is-there-no-rolling-shutter-when-using-a-mechanical-shutter#:~:text=Now%20when%20a%20mechanical%20shutter,appearing%20in%20the%20final%20image.
@wilvan7778
@wilvan7778 9 ай бұрын
nice and clear explanation , thank you ( sony A7 IV user )
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 8 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@manharjethani2903
@manharjethani2903 Жыл бұрын
Great Video, vvv informative
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@v4l4r_m0rghul15
@v4l4r_m0rghul15 Ай бұрын
Thank you! Learnt a lot
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel Ай бұрын
"Learnt"? Learned.
@v4l4r_m0rghul15
@v4l4r_m0rghul15 Ай бұрын
@@usernamemykel get a life sad one! Learnt and learned are two spellings of the same verb. They're both common, but “learnt” is standard in British English and “learned” in American English.
@Mscookiecruz
@Mscookiecruz 11 ай бұрын
Great educational video :) easily explained :) didnt even know electronic shutter was a thing haha
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 11 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@bobr7773
@bobr7773 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the clear explanation. I believe this will help me choose the correct setting. BTW, I’ve been using electronic shutter a lot for nature photography. Silent is often a better choice…
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
True!
@knowwork9
@knowwork9 5 ай бұрын
Will not count right??not like the mechanical shutter lifespan 200k or something then die
@MrDenniscrystal
@MrDenniscrystal 10 ай бұрын
Tnq very much
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 10 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@planillas11
@planillas11 10 ай бұрын
Wow, thanks, thanks for help me.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 10 ай бұрын
Happy to help
@DavidMarx
@DavidMarx Жыл бұрын
excellent excellent video!
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Thanks Dave!
@Lautaro_Guindulain
@Lautaro_Guindulain Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video. It is really a good help. Quick question: in 5:04 there is a cable coming for your camera. What is the purpose of that cable? Have you done a video on this? Thanks again !
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
That is a tethering cable and is used to send images from the camera to the computer when shooting in the studio. Yep, we have videos on it, just search for "tethering" on our Channel Page.
@1962maryse
@1962maryse 3 ай бұрын
Thank you .
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 3 ай бұрын
You are welcome!
@lilfourcreatives
@lilfourcreatives Жыл бұрын
Thanks for this video , it's helpful.. however I am using a canon mirrorless R10 which is a hybrid of mechanical and electronic shutter.. not yet known how to switch between the two
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@ludvigrigger
@ludvigrigger 12 күн бұрын
Thank you for the excellent explanation. What about dynamic range? Is there a difference in image quality?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 11 күн бұрын
Nope, there shouldn't be any difference in image quality or dynamic range. Great question.
@DeFineAl
@DeFineAl 9 ай бұрын
Thanks cleared that up nicely, the question is does the electronic shutter contribute to shutter count ??
@NikoRoma
@NikoRoma Ай бұрын
You, my friend, geta like and a comment. Thanks for the great explanation.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Ай бұрын
Much appreciated!
@marcusvaldes
@marcusvaldes 9 ай бұрын
Great video and explanation. Earned a sub from me!
@RichardRostant1
@RichardRostant1 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation of shutter behavior. I wondered if you had a recommendation, mechanical or electronic, when shooting timelapse? It seems to me that electronic would be preferred to save wear and tear on the mechanical shutter mechanism. Do you know of any disadvantage? Thanks.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
It probably go with electronic. I think the pros would vastly outweigh the cons in that situation.
@jamescaldwell5
@jamescaldwell5 2 ай бұрын
Re banding I set my shutter speed to 1/60 for indoor and my ISO to auto. I have yet to find an issue with banding at this shutter speed. (I think the shutter just has to be slower than the flicker rate) This is on my Electronic shutter only Sigma FPL. Great video BTW. But I am curious, the say you describe the Mechanical shutter. It too exposes a thin horizontal strip of the sensor from top to bottom. Why would this not also have the diagonal line issue with side to side motion?
@newvillagefilms
@newvillagefilms 11 ай бұрын
HEY! You touched the sensor repeatedly @1:16! 😂
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 11 ай бұрын
😂😂😂
@richardbellomy5607
@richardbellomy5607 Жыл бұрын
Just an FYI... you've got a typo you might want to correct at 5:36. The graphic says Slient instead of Silent. Great info BTW!!
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Yeah, we noticed that after upload. No way to change it now unfortunately.
@fuatargun
@fuatargun Жыл бұрын
Thanks for great video explaining many of my questions, except one; On a mirrorless camera, if I use mechanical shutter, how is it possible viewfinder (a display actually) continues to show what sensor sees.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
I believe that the camera is interpolating the missing frames that happen when the shutter curtains close. Honestly, I'm not 100% sure though. That's a really great question.
@sherbaju
@sherbaju 11 ай бұрын
Because the shutter remains open if I'm not mistaken
@TMG363
@TMG363 Жыл бұрын
Nice video. I think at 6.25 you mentioned to electronic shutter?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Yeah, I did. My mistake.
@HoAnhTuan-hn2hg
@HoAnhTuan-hn2hg 9 ай бұрын
*Can you help me, my current need is to buy a microless that supports electronic shutter to silent, but I need fast shutter speed with HSS Flash, I don't know if electronic shutter with HSS Flash has a "banding" error with speed. around 1/2000 to 1/1800? have a good day bro*
@responsibleliving6071
@responsibleliving6071 3 ай бұрын
Thank you, sir, for this video. Does electronic shutter affect the blur effect in portraits?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 3 ай бұрын
Not at all!
@responsibleliving6071
@responsibleliving6071 3 ай бұрын
@@forestchaput thank you sir
@robbeythecarpenter8493
@robbeythecarpenter8493 9 ай бұрын
Can you please check that at mechanical shutter in Astro-photography gives much less camera shake ^6.22 onward. I beg to differ ... surely you meant electronic shutterZ?? Thanks
@zachryall2527
@zachryall2527 4 ай бұрын
With the solar eclipse coming, I'm wondering if using my XT-3's electronic shutter might allow me to reduce the tiny bit of vibration the mechanical (curtains) shutter might create at longer exposures. With an effective 1200mm lens on the camera, some of the exposures (on a good tripod with a star tracker employed) might be in the 1/30th to even longer range. Does the ES giver you a little more stability in terms of just the vibration once the wired release is depressed? Thanks much
@ACitizenOfOurWorld
@ACitizenOfOurWorld 4 ай бұрын
Yes
@jimmylovesbikes
@jimmylovesbikes 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for the explanations! But I'm so confused about "rolling shutter". Would you not have this same issue with a mechanical shutter? As the curtains move and let light in, the subject can move as well. This should cause light poles to bend, bird wingtips to look weird, etc.. ??
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 6 ай бұрын
That's a great question! Very observant. You actually do get a bit of rolling shutter with mechanical, it's far less than electronic though. Here's a good article explaining it: www.canon-europe.com/pro/infobank/electronic-vs-mechanical-shutter/
@user-id2bm9hw3i
@user-id2bm9hw3i 2 ай бұрын
And to avoid dust sticking to the sensor, what is best?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 2 ай бұрын
There really isn't a way to avoid dust getting on your sensor, but here's a sensor cleaning kit that we recommend!:bhpho.to/4523Wqd
@salkinettid2270
@salkinettid2270 Жыл бұрын
Hey cool video, I have a question does one of shutter methods drain more battery life?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
That's a great question. I'm not sure off the top of my head. Hopefully another commenter will have some insight.
@salkinettid2270
@salkinettid2270 Жыл бұрын
@@forestchaput okay thanks anyway
@thaibinh1909
@thaibinh1909 10 ай бұрын
It’s not that big difference but mechanical shutter needs more energy to run the curtains. On a mirrorless, the sensor is always on to record and send the image signal to the display/viewfinder. Taking picture means the sensor also sends the image signal to the camera memory. The camera has to do it in both shutter modes anyway but mechanical shutter needs energy to “run”. But again, it’s not that much affects to battery life. Usually reading the sensor and sending it to the viewfinder is the most power consumption thing. Depending on the settings, taking photos using viewfinder drains more battery than using display.
@salkinettid2270
@salkinettid2270 10 ай бұрын
@@thaibinh1909 thank you for the answer :)
@MizanurRahman-pw5ne
@MizanurRahman-pw5ne Жыл бұрын
I am a beginner in the phase of moving from a mobile camera to a beginner mirrorless camera. I am confused between EOS R50 and R10. The second one has an electronic shutter. Which one would you suggest someone like me who is completely new? Thanks.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
I would get the R10.
@RobertDaria1
@RobertDaria1 5 ай бұрын
Thanks. I
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 5 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@manikarnika7750
@manikarnika7750 11 ай бұрын
Are there any limits on how SLOW you can use an electronic shutter? (I like using silent shutter in the dark spaces)
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 11 ай бұрын
Nope!
@dps6198
@dps6198 5 ай бұрын
Whichever one won't cost me a fortune to repair when one or the other breaks
@rephaelreyes8552
@rephaelreyes8552 3 ай бұрын
Electronic has no mechanical point of failure. But then again (because these camera companies are greedy), there will be a 2-30 cent electronic piece that could easily break after 5-7 years. It's unbelievable how a premium product just breaks like that. I've replaced a clicker on a mouse- the superior, gold plated clicker costs me roughly $1. The inferior clicker soldered by the manufacturer? That one costs 67 cents. These companies- I'm looking at you Sony, they think we're clowns and ignorant enough to buy $1-3 replacement parts for $40. Absolutely unbelievable.
@Elisha_the_bald_headed_prophet
@Elisha_the_bald_headed_prophet 26 күн бұрын
Even if your camera has both and you're only using the electronic one, the curtain might break in the shut position.
@spomiomi007
@spomiomi007 8 ай бұрын
Hi...I am using Nikon z6ii and shoot in aperture mode...i m receiving more light while shooting with electronic shutter in aperture mode...why it's so?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 8 ай бұрын
Hmmm. That’s strange. Are you sure your exposure compensation is zeroed out in both scenarios?
@spomiomi007
@spomiomi007 8 ай бұрын
@@forestchaput ya...my exposure is zero...
@NARRASSAFilmes
@NARRASSAFilmes 9 ай бұрын
The banding at indoors killing me
@user-lo9hj4tu1f
@user-lo9hj4tu1f 26 күн бұрын
Mechanical shutter vs electronic shutter which one is suitable for video shooting thank you
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 20 күн бұрын
Video will always be an electronic shutter. Great question!
@user-dm2ko9mm5u
@user-dm2ko9mm5u 6 ай бұрын
i have sony a7cr what i should choose?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 6 ай бұрын
Depends on the situation.
@user-dm2ko9mm5u
@user-dm2ko9mm5u 6 ай бұрын
@@forestchaput I like landscape, macro
@Zhurii
@Zhurii 4 ай бұрын
I'm a Sony SALESMAN Thank YOU FOR THE I FORMATION
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 4 ай бұрын
You're welcome!
@akshatgopalsoni5487
@akshatgopalsoni5487 6 ай бұрын
What is the lifespan of an electronic shutter
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 6 ай бұрын
Usually longer than anyone would want to own a single camera.
@rickfuzzy
@rickfuzzy 2 ай бұрын
So the wear and tear gets mentioned a lot but surely the mechanical shutter should outlive the camera? I’d hate to think they are designed to fail under normal use.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 2 ай бұрын
Shutters are one of the first things to wear out on most cameras - BUT - most people want a new camera well before they are at the point of the shutter wearing out.
@tractorsmachinesro1405
@tractorsmachinesro1405 5 ай бұрын
💖💖💪💪🔝🔝
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 5 ай бұрын
💪💪💪
@TheSgyro
@TheSgyro 7 күн бұрын
I still don’t understand how the mechanical shutter avoids the rolling shutter.. if the curtains are still exposing just a slit of the sensor, isnt it similar to electronic?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 6 сағат бұрын
You are actually correct. Mechanical shutters do have a tiny, tiny, tiny bit of rolling shutter (particularly at faster shutter speeds). The mechanical curtains move so fast however that it's very minimal.
@TheSgyro
@TheSgyro 6 сағат бұрын
@@forestchaput idk man.. there’s still some thing which im not really understanding about the difference between mechanical and line by line electronic shutter.. the global shutter in the new A9iii makes sense.. it captures everything at once..
@AQHackAQ
@AQHackAQ 8 ай бұрын
I don't understand the comparison... Even with mechanical shutter, sensor readout is still using rolling shutter mechanism, that is reading line by line.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 8 ай бұрын
Yes, the readout is still line by line, but the entire sensor is exposed to light at one time (when the shutter is open), then the data is read out line by line. With electronic, the shutter is exposed and read out line by line causing the rolling shutter issues.
@newvillagefilms
@newvillagefilms 11 ай бұрын
I guess you're screwed with rolling shutters if you purchased a Canon R8.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 11 ай бұрын
Yep! But they are getting a lot better and my hunch is that electronic shutters are the future!
@rednassie1101
@rednassie1101 10 ай бұрын
If Electronic shutters are so fast, why do they still have the rolling shutter effect?
@fettfri
@fettfri Ай бұрын
Reading one line can be very fast but the whole sensor takes more time than when using mechanical.
@zx8346
@zx8346 20 күн бұрын
If electronic shutter is faster why would it produce jello effect ? Wouldn’t mechanical shutter produce jello effect at lower shutter speed ?
@forestchaput
@forestchaput 20 күн бұрын
No, because a mechanical shutter captures the light in the scene all at the same time, where electronic shutter reads the sensor line by line.
@zx8346
@zx8346 20 күн бұрын
@@forestchaput so essentially electronic shutter is slower because of slower readout time ?
@henryhodgson7798
@henryhodgson7798 Жыл бұрын
Why doesn’t a mechanical shutter get rolling shutter when it is practically doing the same thing as the electronic one
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Жыл бұрын
Because a mechanical shutter captures every pixel simultaneously instead of row by row.
@HerreDePerre
@HerreDePerre 6 ай бұрын
@@forestchaputhow’s that possible. I don’t get it
@TeddyCavachon
@TeddyCavachon Ай бұрын
It does and is seen when fast moving rotating objects are captured. The moving slit of the shutter will make the blades appear curved and blurred not straight and frozen. The oldest pro SLR cameras like the Nikon F I used for PJ work back in the early 70s had shutter curtains which moved horizontally across the long dimension of the frame. The effect of that can be seen in Vietnam era photos of helicopters and why many PJs in that era stayed with the Leica rangefinder instead of SLR. The horizontal moving shutter worked to an advantage when panning to follow a moving subject and blurring the background if you could pan => in the same direction the shutter moved.
@usernamemykel
@usernamemykel Ай бұрын
EXCELLENT tutorial. Now go iron your shirt.
@forestchaput
@forestchaput Ай бұрын
Hahaha glad you enjoyed it
@VladOnEarth
@VladOnEarth 9 ай бұрын
6:22 electronic, not mechanical. Rolling shutter: there is basically no difference as mechanical also will read out the same way just slower, just like you demonstrated int he beginning, shutters also move line by line, hence there should not be a difference.
@ACitizenOfOurWorld
@ACitizenOfOurWorld 4 ай бұрын
Look at it again. At slow shutter speeds, the first curtain drops way ahead of the second, exposing the entire sensor at once. It's only a super fast shutter speeds that the two curtains form a slit and basically read line by line like the electronic does all the time. However, you'd have to really pan fast to get a bent shape with mechanical.
@VladOnEarth
@VladOnEarth 4 ай бұрын
@ACitizenOfOurWorld you are right, but at slow shutter speed, readout speed becomes nearly irrelevant due to the physics of the process. Any speed there will return same quality image, because both ways it will be milliseconds.
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