I feel Kingda Ka was a victim of TT2. I believe the plan was to close Green Lantern this year and open Ka for the 2025 season then have it close early to give it a similar treatment to TT2 But given with an extended layout into the Green Lantern plot. When TT2 failed the plans for Ka were scrapped and changed as a plan for a new coaster. Instead of a half old half new frankencoaster.
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I could totally see that being the case
@sabellcarstens6896Күн бұрын
@@doctorcoasterdo what parks will close from the six flags cedar Fair merge
@interstellarrock97133 сағат бұрын
When it comes to Worlds of Fun, I sadly don't think Boomerang is going to go anytime soon, since it isn't really a problem attraction, unlike it's new neighbor. Timber Wolf still runs pretty alright for a Din coaster, and is still a favorite for a lot of people, but I don't think many would be opposed to having a new RMC at this park Really the only thing holding this park back from being great is a lack of funds, and almost no new editions in over a decade and a half, attendance has dropped in recent years as well as quailty, which will hopefully be a sign to Six Flags Management (Cedar Fair Really) to acutely put some effort into it Maybe that new Mattel park will give them enough drive to start improving
@1BillionMarblesКүн бұрын
As someone who's home park is VF and who knows a lot about the park, I just want to clarify a few things. Firstly, it seems that CF management is at the helm with removing rides. Valleyfair was one of the two parks that founded the CF chain, and the "fair" part comes from it. With that said, Excalibur as far as I know isn't in any danger at all. I'm sure maintenance on it isn't all too expensive, so they wouldn't remove it. And if they did, because it sits on a flood zone, the city of Shakopee won't let them build something there unless something substantial is done to fix the problem, which is too expensive. And that statement sums up most of Valleyfair's rides. The park has been running on borrowed time. If anything, I could see venom getting the axe in a couple years, cork in less than 10 Mad Mouse in less than 10, etc etc. Even the flats too. Xtreme Swing has had major problems this past year that cause it to run much slower than other of its own counterpart. If they ran it at the same speed, it could probably damage mechanical components in the ride. So, to sum it up, Valleyfair is a park that is running on borrowed time, and if they don't do something about it its gonna all fall down at once. I know management is capable of that, but corporate is a bit dicey since they give the park practically nothing to work with. I'm praying we get something in 2026 like the higher ups at the park were hinting at because the future of the park depends on it. If they get nothing, they're fucked, for a lack of better word. Hopefully corporate pulls their head out of their ass and finally does something about this. It's kinda just depressing seeing all the parks around you getting new additions while your home park gets nothing, not even a new bathroom, a new restaurant location. No new coasters in 18 years, no new waterslides in 10 years, hell, they even took OUT the best ride in soak city too. The whole water park is extremely outdated too. And, on TOP of that, our last new ride we got was a Larson loop in 2018, which was 7 years ago if I did my math right. It's just sad.
@AmusementLabs2 күн бұрын
So, everythin with CGA sale aside, the one thing people forget is the operation 'buddy' concept. RailBlazer is SUPER unreliable and when its down, where do people go? Demon. And since RB is down a lot (and I mean A LOT) Demon has good ridership. But that station needs work. It's practically falling apart. I say demon the station, to the foundation, shade the queue or make a tunnel, paint the track a nice cherry red, and cut down trees so we can see the loops and add some chaser lights to them. Its a decent ride, but unless RB js down, people rarely know its there.
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
That’s such a good point. I’ve seen that at other parks where one ride goes down and immediately jacks up the wait time for another ride on a frequent basis. As far as them investing in the park, I sadly don’t see it happening with the moves they’ve been making removing events etc.
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
Yeah, it is ridicoulous. You'd think a previously only Cedar Fair park would've been taking way better care. Yet the sister Demon at Six Flags Great America has all the sounds, effects, nice paint around it and is pretty visible. Not so much from one side but there's a nice amount of rides (and the dark ride) over there so kind of a good reason. Also you'd think they'd want to try to fix it after this many years. This again Jersey Devil is also annoyingly unreliable to the point where I could've thought of 3 better options (one being to actually fix El Toro properly) for a new coaster then and waited until now. The newer single rails clearly are much more efficient, hopefully wonder woman at fiesta texas will be better though ti should've just gotten the whole thing madeover with less stress and better capacity if they were going to spend that money in the first place.
@edt-ze3keКүн бұрын
SFOG already confirmed that Kid Flash is done for good during Coaster Fest a few months back. It's a shame that being the case as TwiCy was the last major investment the park received at the time prior to Georgia Surfer, now being called Georgia Goldrusher. By removing Kid Flash and also the Axis arena, it would free up space to add in a dive or tilt coaster in that plot of land.
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I do think SFOG is going to get ones of those clones eventually, especially after the consolidation and improvements around the park.
@edt-ze3keКүн бұрын
@@doctorcoaster I agree, they had the dive coaster in their passholder servey and I believe that it's likely going to be next to be added after Goldrusher. It's probobly perfect for the park's 60th that's coming up soon once SFOT opens their supposedly rumored giga dive next year.
@MillenniumforceКүн бұрын
Blue Hawk was in the movie Vacation. It was called the Velociraptor.
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
It sure was!
@garrettsmith8591Күн бұрын
I have ridden Timberwolf so I can tell you about it. And to be honest, I don’t think it’s gonna be removed anytime soon the reason I say that because they recently did a lot of track work on it (it used to be so rough that my sisters friend got a concussion on the ride) the other reason I say that is because it is the only classic wooden roller coaster in the park. Prowler and Zambizi Zinger are modern Woodies. The third reason, I don’t think it’s going anywhere anytime soon is because they poured a lot of money into the ride in recent years. And the fourth and final reason I don’t see it going anywhere in anytime soon is because land is not an issue at Worlds of Fun. They have tons of undeveloped land that they can easily use to put just about anything on. However when they do decide to pull the plug on the ride I guarantee you they will most likely RMC it and not tear it down completely. To be honest I will be shocked if they tear it down and don’t RMC it. However boomerang I am going to agree with. But like I said, land is not an issue with this park and there’s not a whole lot they can put this place due to it’s small footprint only like a flat ride or maybe a free spin. But yeah, I don’t think any rides are getting remove anytime soon at World of fun. And I’m about 90% sure that the next ride to go at WOF will be a flat ride.
@notcool10792 күн бұрын
The last time Superman operated they did run both sides but not at the same time. They did however only run the forwards side for 1 and a half years without running the backwards side at all (which finally starting operating last January)
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info! Would love to ride it, but don’t think it’s going to last
@zooderloopers2 күн бұрын
in the famous words of doctor coaster: "wow."
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
Wow.
@valentinawilliams1250Күн бұрын
Sorry for your loss of coasters don't worry hang in there things will get better, Hopefully someday I will be able to fly out to ride EL TORO because I live in California
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I fortunately have already ridden el toro
@gizzycav882 күн бұрын
I could be wrong, but unless something major happens, I think Steel Venom might actually be one of the last Intamin Impulses to go for three reasons: 1. It’s the only Intamin Impulse that still has its holding break. Valleyfair invests a lot of money keeping that maintained and it’s a huge part of their marketing every season. 2. The chain doesn’t really care much about Valleyfair, so as long as Steel Venom isn’t a major money pit, they’ll probably leave it alone. 3. Its location. There are parking lot coasters-and then there’s Steel Venom. Unless they took out at least three flat rides that are next to it, it would be so hard to replace it because there aren’t a lot of options that would fit there. Similarly, Dorney Park keeps investing in Possessed, even making sure B&M designed Iron Menace in a way that protected Possessed. This comment could age like an avocado, but I’d hedge my bets on Steel Venom and Possessed being safe for a while.
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
The avocado line got me😂 I hope they do stick around!
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
Honestly I think Dorney should go back to those old switchback wooden coaster plans, make sure it has two full size trains, and make it big enough to work. The current only switchback gravity group coaster is too small for a big park like it to just move (it's literally up for sale) but they could build something like it. It's also been 84 yrs since they removed Hercules which was smoother than thunderhawk so they could go with a second wooden roller coaster. Cedar Fair also should've never removed Laser, that was just stupid especially for a broken coaster they closed in 5 years.
@COASTER_CHASER_12 күн бұрын
For Great Escape Flashback/Boomerang is getting refurbished and possibly the new trains. I agree with Steamin Demon being on the chopping block. The other coaster instead would be Canyon Blaster the Arrow Mine train.
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I figured the boomerangs would be salvaged somehow… as much as I don’t like them
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
Honestly I doubt many will bother to remove the boomerangs with the little space and refurbishment option. Which I have no problem with, just the new trains alone make them lots of fun especially when going backwards. I mean whe not even Hersehy moves there's out where there's land. And Knotty's Berry farm used to have more where they removed their's and who knows if they would've if not landlocked. Also noteably far less controlled by the chain that one. I hope they five flashback at new england a makeover, its going to look ridicoulous next to a brand new coaster.
@CodyCoaster325Күн бұрын
I hope they keep shockwave as well, by far my favorite vertical loops. However sadly it’s an old shwarskopft so it does have a high chance for removal, just for its age 😢
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I honestly think I’d prefer removal over what they did with Mindbender
@bigthrillsmike39502 күн бұрын
I’m a great adventure homeparker, this is one rough season we got coming up.
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
Hey it’s okay, you got Flash right?!😂💀
@maskedsonja5722Күн бұрын
I would cry if Dragon Fyre-was my first looping coaster. As for Minebuster, rumor is that its being retracked up here
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I did hear it’s getting retracked!
@impracticallychristopher2 күн бұрын
Joker Funhouse acknowledged. Sign of apocalypse
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
Remove all SFOG coasters immediately to compensate
@namevoneКүн бұрын
At Carowinds I think Carolina Cyclone is the only ride really at risk. Hurler gets surprisingly good ridership, Flying Cobra's is a pretty decent ride with the new trains, and Vortex got a refurb/repaint not too long ago. Plus I think if something were to happen to Vortex they would've done it when they were converting/removing all the other standups in the mid 2010s, it's the only standup legacy Cedar Fair did nothing to.
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
As someone who enjoyed Hurler at King's DOminion and didn't even know people disliked it so much until it was closed for a season then made into superior twisted timbers. I honestly get why it's still going. I wish I could get to it to ride it again honestly. However what are going to do, take and alter the plans enough from twisted timbers to make it an RMC that still is actually like the original? I mean I think it's at least safe in the same manner than the prior hurler model and iron rattler (and wildcat's revenge, all didn't change everything they are direct homages to the originals). I agree Carolina Cyclone is probably at risk. Not impossible to restore but everyone apparently is too dumb, lazy, or irgnorant to follow Busch Gardwns Williamsburg or Over Georgia's example and simple restore their classic loopers.
@sf-dn8rhКүн бұрын
Big fury could be on the danger list now to due to the supports issue a few years ago, I think if another fails that's it
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I honestly don’t hate hurler, it just doesn’t so much😅
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
@@doctorcoaster I feel like it was a solid idea but a bit too dragged on without the technology to really make it that cool. Even if twisted timbers had no inversions, no triple ejector hill area and less wildness on the turns I'd still say it was fun. To me it's just like iron rattler and Wildcats revenge which hold the best of the originals but apply both better tech and rmcs own touch together. I prefer then over conversions that cut out too much of layout tbh.
@namevoneКүн бұрын
@@doctorcoaster yeah I feel the same, but I think it also serves as a good in between coaster because it’s so forceless. I’m assuming that’s why it’s so popular too
@nikkijoseph3614Күн бұрын
Are you referring to the company as cedar fair because of the board of directors? Cause that was confusing
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
Correct!
@johnsonjohnson4020Күн бұрын
Whizzer at Great America has become a historical monument it's not leaving. I hope American eagle gets the rmc!
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
Idk I just hope they respect Whizzer that much
@johnsonjohnson4020Күн бұрын
@@doctorcoasterAmerican Coaster Enthusiasts awarded the ride ACE Landmark status on August 10, 2012. This came from the coasterpedia site. Idk if that will keep it from getting closed 😮
@stephengurr8365Күн бұрын
This video gets five out of five donuts 🍩 🍩🍩🍩🍩. I agree that Superman: Escape from Krypton will never operate again. Which bums me out because I’ve never been to Magic Mountain. I also worry that the days are numbered for X-2 and Xcellerator. I don’t think they will remove Dahlonega Mine Train now that they committed to retheming the Intamin Ultra Surf. I also don’t see Blue Hawk - which I enjoy - going anywhere soon . I agree on Kid Flash - it’s gone. Great video.
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
Best rating I’ve ever received! And yeah, I think kid flash is probably the only guarantee
@djblind1401Күн бұрын
Love the video but How can you not mention American Eagle at Great America?
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I did consider it, but it seems like it’s safe. Idk why they typically only operate one side though so who knows
@djblind140113 сағат бұрын
@ it’s a structural issue with the ride. Last time it raced back in 2018 apparently the massive helix was shaking very bad.
@ItsSiebay2 күн бұрын
I agree with you on Demon Drop and I need to get to this park to ride it before it goes. As for Darien Lake, the two Vekomas are safe as the Boomerang got new track and the SLC is getting new trains. Also, Mindbuster is getting retracked. Hopefully St Louis and Discovery Kingdom gets rid of both their Vekomas.
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
Did not know that about the Vekomas, thanks for the update! I hope the SLC can be a solid one
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
Thanks for the info, didn't know Darien Lake was finally doing something about the SLC. I guess besides Kong and the one six flags doesn't even own (Elitch gardens) there really aren't many to makeover now, but I feel like I am missing one least in the USA. I will say one very positive thing for darien lake-they may not get many new installations, but they take care of Viper and they aren't just letting everything fall apart. Actually being able to ride the SLC is also a reason for me to actually go (have one but far as the 1-3 it's solid at 3 and no lower atm as I've never been and really want too plus that other park with the CCI close by owned by gene staples).
@ItsSiebayКүн бұрын
@ I’ve been following Darien Lake since they announced they were being sold to Six Flags operations. I haven’t been there but I’d love to because I think it’s an underrated park that just needs a little more love. I’ve heard a mix of Viper being good and bad so I guess I’ll see for myself what I think. I’m hoping the new trains help on Mind Eraser because there are some SLCs like Lost Island’s and Six Flags America’s that are still rough even with the vest restraints. The only other SLC that no one talks about is Magic Springs in Arkansas.
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
@@ItsSiebay were in the same boat with that. Honestly to me if it looks fine with arrow loopers it usually is, cause you cant really get mostly positive out of today's people wanting everything "butter smooth." Shame green lantern B&M was or had to be scrapped it could've been floorless and a star attraction there. I also like even if it's not so special another six flags besides Georgia (which I find heavily underrated) having a getertsular eurofighter. And some quirky rides. With all the titan track I cant imagine predator not at least being worth a ride a day or a couple in one. The boomerang already has the better restraints too just not the vest restraint ones. I wanna go now and hit the Niagara Falls park with the cci too now xd
@jacknight1011 сағат бұрын
The kid flash coasters are more than likely done for someone whose home park is not one of the six flags parks with them but was Seaworld San Diego and saw the remove of tide twister was the last skyline coaster to be removed it hard to see them last most longer
@doctorcoaster10 сағат бұрын
@@jacknight10 Skyline seemed to have had a good product, but yikes
@valentinawilliams1250Күн бұрын
My biggest Hope if roller coasters to last just as long as the Giant Dipper at Santa Cruz Beach Boardwalk and In San Diego
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
All the good ones should!
@asterisKs12 күн бұрын
titan is being repainted to have blue track so its not going anywhere :)
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
Figured that’d be the case!
@PalmerBerry2 күн бұрын
That is one of the saddest affairs of amusement parks when a ride gets taken out. Today's theme parks are not your parent's parks.
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
It is sad. I really enjoy classic rides and I don’t feel like they get the same kind of protection that newer ones get more often than not. I obviously love modern coasters, but please protect the classics.
@rockintylerj93492 күн бұрын
I think Xcelerator has some time as they repainted it not too long ago and just got a new train. I believe the train is going to be used for parts, so it will prolong the life of the ride. But still, it is probably the most likely to close next
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
It’s unfortunate, but the hydraulic launches are disappearing
@rockintylerj93492 күн бұрын
@doctorcoaster I know :( Luckily, I got to go on Xcelerator this past summer. But my first trip to Cedar Point was in 2023, so I missed Top Thrill Dragster, and now won't be able to go on Kingda Ka sadly
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
I’m hopefully doing Xcelerator this week!
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
Yeah, I think it's got some time still. And they have more control over the park which is primarly why I think it even reopened after the last super long closure. But truthfully if it means a redesign in that hyper coaser plan then let them just be ready t odo that and use up the space that would become vacant when the time is actually right. 5 years from now or simply not if it can last longer.
@sf-dn8rhКүн бұрын
Six flags magic mountain another could be going apocolipa(so)
@DougYeager-i8b20 сағат бұрын
Kings Dominion just laid off some employees. I suspect that the company will continue to trim the budget in anyway possible. Not a good time to be working for any theme/amusement park company in general.
@Jcjc-lr4bf13 сағат бұрын
For great adventure I’d say skull mountain, Harley Quinn, joker, and yes I agree :(… el toro. That was what I was just saying to my friends the other day. Cedar fair does not care about nostalgia. Next year I predict magic mountains purge which could include ninja, x2, viper, or EFK. They’ll use the new glider to take attention off of it
@roberthanna62Күн бұрын
Bobsled coaster is at kings dominion
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
Different manufacturer, but it is the only bobsled left in the states!
@DanielHernandez-ut8fqКүн бұрын
I will cry if El Toro closes
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
Praying it holds up! They need that ride
@sf-dn8rhКүн бұрын
Superman will go first imo
@DanielHernandez-ut8fq21 сағат бұрын
@@sf-dn8rh I don’t dislike Superman but I will sacrifice it 100 times to keep El Toro
@Paulmagic8ball36512 сағат бұрын
Maybe x-celerator is gonna have top thrill 2 treatment since they have had refurbishment n repaint also hopefully now that need something coming up
@drawsomethewizard30062 күн бұрын
Mine Buster is currently being retracked by Gravity Group so, I would have to say Wild Beast
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
Perfect! Grizzly time!😅
@oneandonlysound992 күн бұрын
I wish they'd drop the multi-launch for SFADV for 2026. They're opening one in 2025! Build something else first. Now, I really enjoy dive coasters and also think like a smaller GCI or Gravity group family/thrill coaster would be a great thing in between basically riding skull mountain and then either the new for 2025 or picking a B&M. In the meantime they should be closing El Toro and giving it a makeover from the three companies gci/gravity group/rmc. Titan track and GCI's new trains? If they keep it 3/4 the same itll have better trains from anyone and they could just add 1-2 inversions. Then have a full wooden coaster by it or Jersey devil. Yes, it needs it. "Iron Toro" and something else with a western or Mexican theme or like something haunting (if my jd since you also got skull mountain). If they aren't adding a flat ride every year with the coaster already done and the following year after removing so many rides though, they obviously have no sensible plan whatsoever. I would've said SLC's would've been on the chopping block, other than kong they should just fix them up especially the boomerangs.
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
Please just save El Toro no matter what
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
@@doctorcoaster I mean yeah pretty much. I think what got me to rant more about it was people who don't seem to think it's needs saving, like "nah it's fine." It hasn't been fine since it hit the 15 year mark. If anything they should be getting an RMC single now and have gotten them to go a great job on it already. My main thing about almost preferring GCI is I'd rather not see not still be an out and back. design with so many ejector airtime hills. But the one before the low section that leads up to the ending changed into an inversion and like one other hill made into one would be fine. I feel like if they hire RMC we will get less comfortable seating, and if they won't get another wooden coaster, then it'll just be the steel hybrid.And the park if anything can use another wooden coaster, even if it's a family gravity group model. The loss of flats is ridicoulous too they could easily be getting something new this year like a zamperla endeavour at minimal and should be.
@spentron1Күн бұрын
@@oneandonlysound99 As Toro already has rubber wheels, hybrid wouldn't change the experience much with the same layout.
@oneandonlysound99Күн бұрын
@@spentron1 Good point but it does feel very different from even RMC topper track and I'm talking like 2016-2018 when it was (with the exception of the big first turn drop and the two spots on hill bottoms they actually redid well enough) generally running better. Basically smoother but could still feel a real difference. Honestly I feel like it's one of those bizzare nobody talks about or addresses but RMC's own trains are not as good as the gertsular trains and the wild moose train design is far closer. Iron Rattler is way more comfortable than most RMC's simply because you don't get your legs dug into on all the ejector. I wouldn't want that on El Toro, its already annoying people at the end of AireForce One and people willing to speak up on Steel Vengeance (because it's a crazy intense ride too) as well. I'd almost prefer GCI for a fix and a new coaster (would save money) simply because of that reason. However if it can be worked on my any of the "main three" essentially RMC/GCI/Gravity Group and brought back to like 2010 levels that is far more needed than another multi launch a year after another one is opening. Just throw a three flat ride package at us first and give it an extra year to work on doing something to fix what's already there.
@spentron1Күн бұрын
@ The current prefab track is probably the best, just have to get to it, like now.
@sf-dn8rhКүн бұрын
Great adventure another at danger Superman, that one in the area being demolished.
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
It’s probably safe, but who knows anymore
@sf-dn8rhКүн бұрын
Rumers flying its done
@skyrushyesminderaserno1150Күн бұрын
Basically everything #FireZimmerman
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I’ll give him a chance to prove us wrong, but you’ve gotta tell people when you’re closing!
@bigthrillsmike39502 күн бұрын
I think Toro and Medusa could be out as soon as the end of the 2025 season.
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
Let’s hope not, but it’s certainly a possibility with the rate they’re going
@COASTER_CHASER_1Күн бұрын
Personally I see them giving Eltoro the Gravity Group Treatment if it’s not getting that now.
@JJJJ-he8bz2 күн бұрын
There’s to much competition in Southern California for them to ruin Magic Mountain they have to keep that park competitive. Taking out X2 would be devastating. Universal is literally 30 minutes away and they are building a major coaster.
@doctorcoasterКүн бұрын
I feel like they do cater to different markets… it really just depends how often a ride operates
@JJJJ-he8bzКүн бұрын
@ X operates fine the only thing that shuts that coaster down is high winds
@sf-dn8rhКүн бұрын
Viper I think will get the locness treatment, I see the thomas train going first
@nito2092 күн бұрын
Yesssss🎉
@doctorcoaster2 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@sf-dn8rhКүн бұрын
Silver bullet and the batman clones are others coming to there ends as well. The new dorney coaster I seeing getting moved, not well liked with the b&m rattle
@sf-dn8rhКүн бұрын
Magic mountain coasters in danger, Thomas train Superman Apocoylps Maybe x2 Scream Maybe full throttle.