Which Star Wars Faction has the Best ELITE GUARDS? | Star Wars Lore

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[@robocheetah1188]

EckhartsLadder in the thumb nail it doesn't show the droid manga guard, is this on purpose

[@ethanfleming9016]

EckhartsLadder Magna Guards for #2 maybe #1

[@mannysaurus19]

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[@brennonweirdlastname4021]

You should make a clone and storm troopers vs the rebels and battle droids

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[@kolinmartz]

The praetorian guards have very high tech disappearing weapons.

[@nexusredacted47]

Underated comment

[@henry6136]

Especially knives.

[@dathomirpizzagirl9686]

Some people won’t get the reference

[@wolflover_5557]

lol. I didn't notice at first but then it bugged me like hell. lol

[@tonyfortier8835]

@@henry6136 knives that could go straight in the spine of mary sue

[@harleyokeefe5193]

Guards are useless when your opponents have the high ground

[@brennancollins8103]

Obi-number one kenobi can argue with that

[@actinganimal885]

Obi-Wan Kenobi LoL

[@alexbirney4425]

Obi-Wan Kenobi can't argue with that logic

[@UltimaSigmarAlonso]

I have the high ground I will take this lighsaber highground padme is death high ground

[@jamesfernandes9433]

But I don't like the high ground, it is course and rough... and gets everywhere, unlike the low ground...

[@alfredthegreat5452]

I think Magna guards are the best. They don't tire, can keep fighting with their head cut off, and they were able to contend Obi wan and Anakin, 2 of the best duelists in the galaxy for a short while, and even Obi wan knew he couldn't defeat 4 of them so he had to try to drop the thing on them. While the praetorian guards lost 8 to 2 to people who are nowhere near on obi-wan and Anakin's level.

[@nighthunter3039]

What is with the Imperial Shadow Guards? That where chosed from the best of the Royal Guard equiped with lightsaberpikes and having a basic understanding and basic training in the Dark side of the force like force pusch, force choke and force lightning

[@wolfgod6443]

Only when considering the movies. In TCW, 3 magnaguards were defeated by Ahsoka, who was just barely a padawan at the time (though a very difficult fight for her). Nadaar, a regular Jedi Knight, defeated at least two (can't remember if he beat more), In other episodes Anakin defeated 4 and Kenobi beat 2 while fighting Grievous at the same time. The ones on Grievous's ship may have been the exception, not the norm. Though they are still very powerful for droids/non-force warriors. Praetorians, while lacking in background details, are stated to be intended to face Luke Skywalker alongside Snoke once they found him (also alongside Kylo Ren likely). They would serve as the physical combatants to match his lightsaber while Snoke provided the Force power. We also know that their armor and weapons are extremely powerful. It's not entirely known what Kylo's skill level is, as the only time we've seen him fighting in top condition is against the praetorians anyways, but he is stated by Snoke to rival Darth Vader (though loosely), his natural strength in the Force clearly matches that of Luke or Vader, and he played a major part in wiping out Luke's Jedi. Rey is also a rival in terms of sheer power but is self taught in combat. Self teaching can be fickle and has its own strengths and weaknesses. It shows with Rey barely surviving that battle, but she got lucky and only fought one at a time while Kylo faced 4 at the same time and they had him surrounded (he also killed 2 at the very start of the fight). Point is, Had they swapped places, Rey would probably die if Kylo couldn't finish the other 2 quickly enough, and if either were alone, they would definitely have died because almost did in their respective halves of the fight as it is.. While not perfect, this should give an idea of strength for the praetorians. Oh, and to address the royal red guards, we saw Ezra (an above average force wielder but normal padawan otherwise) defeat 3 plus some stormtroopers with some difficulty. Though this was after this video came out. This isn't really meant to steer you one way or the other, I just wanted to provide some info to help compare them. Though personally, I'm inclined to agree with Eck's choices on this one, magnaguards can be inconsistent. Way I see it, praetorians are the best, but there's only 8 of them as far as we can tell, while red guards and magnaguards vary in skill, and only occasionally equal one praetorian, but there's also more of them. to make up for that.

[@rustkarl]

Exactly

[@g.koch.]

They need to re charge 😛

[@imlonelypleasehelp5443]

Wolfgod 64 just and FYI Sith Lords lie about the strength of their apprentices a lot so why wouldn’t another , Sith Lord I mean totally original dark side lord user, do it

[@graetestfanever1]

"Droids will never be as good as organics" *IG-88 and HK-47 would like yo know your location.*

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

Laughs in jango fett

[@laserutouettal]

Jordan Kurtis *laughs in mr bones*

[@hobbesgoblin2691]

@Your Wingman laughs in bad writing

[@clone9159]

@@hobbesgoblin2691 laughs in Clone with AK-47

[@James-pt2vk]

Laughs in gonk droid

[@nikosvagiakos8510]

The Guards Yoda killed were red guards and they didnt get the same training as the imperial guards and they were recruited for loyalty

[@stefanstanisic9823]

EXACTLY...how tf did he forget that? or prob didnt even know about it...

[@melissakerr5321]

YEAH exactly they ware just senate guards picked for their loyalty to palatine!

[@davidbooth46ify]

Just shut the fuck up. They're the exact same as the imperial guards and were equally shit. So fuck off.

[@KS-qr1ry]

Spetsnaz woah who touched you

[@davidbooth46ify]

@@KS-qr1ry Nobody.

[@Thkaal]

The praetorian guard has the worst possible Weaponry the weapons just disappear in the middle of a fight They're not dropped they simply cease to exist what kind of weapon does that

[@VinVonVoom]

Why does that always happen, smh

[@samueldelrosal3029]

They also failed to kill a female space hobo who picked up a lightsaber for the first time a few days before they fought her.

[@jgonzalez5884]

Lol literally in one shot they had to remove the blade one had otherwise he'd have just stuck her from behind, now that I think about it if the movie was her getting stuck from behind people would've liked it more

[@d.r.9746]

I hate it when your Praetorian Guard weaponry up and disappears mid-battle. Smh

[@deadshot5007]

It was just one blade the other weapons are a lot better

[@kolbythekapitalist488]

What about Jedi Temple guards

[@cactus7633]

Or even rebel honour guards

[@Pillowcars]

Jedi Temple guard have the focre

[@pilotlewis1578]

No Name they’ll be last

[@memebigboi5330]

They'd destroy everybody

[@hektor7798]

Well we all know they would win so why even include them

[@rustkarl]

I believe the IG-100 Magnaguards should be at the top. They were durable, well programmed and skilled at using weaponry. My opinion is that in a one on one they would outlast basically any other member on this list. Also, magnaguards had a track record of contending with trained Jedi in one to one or two to one situations. It was 4 praetorians to one force user, one trained, the other... really not. And they still lost, only inflicting minor wounds.

[@notanonymous3976]

Rustymcnut agreed

[@darthnick1516]

The imperial guards were able to kill jedi they had more power than you think and they even were trained with the force ,so they could withstand it but not use it

[@legoclonetrooper7443]

Rey had plot armor

[@Pigeon249]

I think the same although i still believe the imperial gaurds take the number 1 spot, if you get 50+ of the best fighters the empire can find, windle them down to either 4 or 2 amd make them fight to the death. Aswell as the fact that the force sensitive ones could easily take out a jedi knight just makes them no. 1 for me

[@nathanheath5793]

I agree

[@tsonava4223]

“the praetorian guards put up a fight” rey knocked three of them down with one kick what do you mean

[@bananabob4753]

Don't under estimate rey's force capabilities. She is the strongest force user in the entire Star Wars galaxy. So powerful that she can make weapons vanish into thin air and get the advantage.

[@lindada4495]

Well they the only one had action on screen.

[@maxelleasgadrah3974]

These new movies have a mary sue

[@thesenate974]

They almost killed them. They had both Rey and Kylo pinned down at one point.

[@mg4956]

@@thesenate974 they could have killed them many times but disengaged before striking the killing blow. That makes them shit.

[@dontatkme5726]

8:34 @EckhartsLadder, i would like to correct that, the Red Guards we see in Episode 3 are actually just normal senate guards but just in different clothes. The Imperial Royal Guard came to service only after when Sidious transformed the Galactic Republic to the Galatic Empire. And after it was transformed, it have just started to recruit the best cadets of the Imperial Academy to be Imperial Guards. As such, the Red Guards we see Yoda killing are actually just Senate Guards in some red clothes that are solely loyal to Sidious.

[@generalgrievous6066]

The Pretorian guard isn’t the best, I would have chosen the Magna Guards because they actually could accomplish a mission and defeated anakin with a little help of dooku and their weapons don’t disappear randomly in a fight

[@seagullsrock2792]

Your Just saying that because you trained them

[@jcrossx]

seagulls rock lmao

[@deadshot5007]

Lol Anakin defeated 8 magma guards in a minute in the clone wars

[@callumnoble6063]

@@deadshot5007 well, to be fair, thats like saying "the rock defeated like, 12 children in a minute"

[@TheAbysmalEye]

Hello there

[@rowanfernsler9725]

8:36, those weren’t true imperial guards. That was just remodeled republic guards

[@some_shitposting_idiot3023]

Citation needed

[@Amadeus8484]

What about the ones who were recruited AFTER the Senate was liquidated?

[@felafnirelek8987]

@@Amadeus8484 the ones Yoda knocked out were old senate guards. The empire had been proclaimed just a few days before, at most.

[@Amadeus8484]

@@felafnirelek8987 Why wouldn't the Emperor employ Clones who are 100% loyal to him and probably more experienced than regular people?

[@PugnaciousProductions]

Amadeus Because he ordered the halt of cloning, making fully loyal clones far inbetween. And he did, Atleast 25% of his guards were clones from some period of the clone wars.

[@H_Malik_RL]

The imperial guards that yoda defeated were not real guards, and they had not taken any special training. They were chosen purely down to their loyalty to Palpatine, since the empire had just started.

[@sullyczar]

thank you a smart person!!

[@joemegannety1508]

I'm late but you're right

[@urmomgay1131]

Not even Imperial guards at the time, they were literally just red guards.

[@kevray]

Yoda would still rek Imperial Guards

[@theresnothinghereatall]

@@kevray No shit. It's yoda.

[@nullarcstudios8910]

I think the Magnaguards are the best. They can take the most the hits and several times they fight Annakin in 2 agianst 1 fights and come close to winning. And since they are usually shown in sets of 2 or 4 and have better communication, Since they can basically red each other's minds. They also are a lot stronger than organics and can take a lot more hits. And due to them being able to share training due to the fact they are droids, If one is skilled with a weapon, All of them can be skilled with that weapon via a simple data transfer. Plus they are far more likely to come out of combat alive. Even if you cut it's head and limbs off it will keep going. And it keeps the most sensitive parts(The brain) In the most armored location. They also can have more armor and still be able to freely move due to them not having squishy innards. In the clone wars they have been shown to be able to kill Jedi masters when they are in groups of 4. And if they were in groups of 6 or 8 like the guards of the empire and first order, They would be a lot more powerful. Just my opinion. Good video.

[@rinkelrelps4370]

I agree!

[@irrelevant1242]

Vishnu Gudivada in the clone wars tv series 4 beat Anakin easily while Dooku merely watched.

[@o0fguy694]

Nullarc77's Bricks and builds magnaguards are best

[@davidbooth46ify]

Praetorian Guards were able to take more hits because they've proven to be able to withstand a lightsaber thrust just with their own armour, it also took about 5 lightsaber blasts to fully take down a unarmed Praetorian guard. That's all I'm gonna write because I don't have the spare time to write a essay for all the other reasons like you did.

[@storyseeker6028]

@N they lost to a gal who has only been using a lightsaber for 2 days, attacked their new master under dark sider rule, failed to notice the rotating lightsaber at all and they’re supposed to be good? They are so useless they almost make battle droids look intelligent, heavy emphasis on almost.

[@distelmarc]

Just curious, it would take over 8 Praetorian guards to take down Kylo and Rey, but Obi-Wan had difficulty dispatching just one Magna Guard droid? I would put the IG-1000 higher than the Praetorian on just that alone! Droids aren't influenced by emotions, distractions, or hesitation. They can also move a lot faster and be subjected to greater forces than a biological body like a human would. They are also more effective at combat after suffering limb loss than most biological creatures would, as well. They can probably have better coordination than living beings could and can even fight while walking on walls, ceilings, and slippery surfaces. Seriously, meatbags, even with force abilities, are not that much superior.

[@alphatrex612]

Praetorian guards: Lose to a untrained girl, and wannabe vader. Magna guard: Can go toe-to-toe with a jedi master, and can keep fighting without a head. Verdict: Magna are superior.

[@oogabooga5732]

Borsalino Kizaru that's because Snoke wasn't really paying attention to what was happening around him. Also, he was confident that his vision of Kylo striking his enemy down would be of him killing Rey, but his true enemy was Snoke.

[@KnightRaymund]

I think he sold the droids short on this one. They were generally cheap and won with numbers but these ones were on another level.

[@sullyczar]

plot amor

[@country_flyboy]

@@alphatrex612 Magna Guard: Can go up against two of the most experienced Jedi generals, one of which is one of the most powerful force users in the galaxy Imperial Guard: Wears red Verdict: ImPeRiAl GuArD iS bEtTeR!

[@onyx3363]

1. Magna guards 2. Imperial Guards 3. Praetorian guards 4. Senate guards

[@commondirtbagz7130]

Darth Onyx no. Magna gaurds are only ahead of the senate gaurds are you high?

[@charlieplagueis9531]

@@commondirtbagz7130 nah. 1. Jedi guardians (they should be on this list) 2. Magna 3. Imperial 4. Pretorian 5. Senate

[@commondirtbagz7130]

Chasam P bro praetorians and imperials would smack magnas.

[@Its-Av3rage]

Common Dirtbagz not praetorians. Imperials would actually see them as a tough match though.

[@clitoralrosary9474]

I agree.

[@jujuthehoms5482]

8:33 Those actually aren't the same guards as the imperial guards, basically just senate guards in red

[@robertnelson9599]

That is true, I am surprised anyone knew that.

[@jonasb104]

Mitch Brumirski Exactly. The ones in ROTS are corrupted Senate-guards with new clothing.

[@jujuthehoms5482]

Mitch Brumirski I believe the ones in the clone war also were loyal to Palpatine and he could be Sidious without them squealing if I remember correctly

[@jujuthehoms5482]

for sure, Royal Guards will always have a place in my heart because of Crimson Empire, I love that story so much

[@radityasuryandaru7737]

Yes that is right

[@sullyczar]

The Royal Guards actually have deceptivly good armor so good actually that they are easily the best on this list! The reason they don't look like they have good armor is because it is PURPOSFULY consealed by their cloak so people like you would completely underestimate it so its makes battle even easier BTW I really like your channel and am subbed but this is the one video I completely disagree with.

[@drdiesel2466]

I was looking for this comment, the imperial royal guards are easily the best, the Droid guards are after haha.

[@jgonzalez5884]

Right idk where he got his info its says they have some of the best armor at the time

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[@christianwilliam8609]

Trevor Goebel he’s tha best

[@whyshebuiltlikethat5311]

Trevor Goebel He’s good, but he’s no MetaNerdz. However, it’s very hard to beat him, his military of Star Wars knowledge is overwhelming.

[@inkedseahear]

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[@whyshebuiltlikethat5311]

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[@antimatter175]

There were a few canon comics where a single imperial guard held off an entire army, even able to shoot a tie fighter pilot in the heart mid-flight with a blaster pistol.

[@Username-tl6wf]

I think it's crimson empire which isnt canon anymore

[@kirzuvo7145]

Also to correct you it's not 1G-1000 magna droid, it's IG-100 magna guards. At 9:08

[@fabiolacastillo434]

The Entity he said 100.

[@jonasb104]

Fabiola Castillo No, he didn't. I heard it ones more and he says 1000.

[@Smithjonesjoker1775]

Fabiola Castillo he said 100 at the start but at the end he said 1000

[@biostemm]

He definitely said IG-100, at 4:36 and 4:50.

[@maxjones503]

it's just a one time thing, every other time he said 100. But the original comment was only referring to that one time.

[@Will-pd6vj]

I'd give the IG-100's first. The First Order guards (not gonna try and spell the name) had an 8-2 advantage and still lost, albeit narrowly, while one of their opponents had practically no lightsaber combat experience. The IG-100's could fight Jedi and win with a 2-1 advantage during a time where the Jedi were better at fighting than they had been in centuries due to war. It's simple logic. IG's beat fully trained Jedi with a 2-1 advantage, while First Order guards loose with a 4-1 advantage. Rey and Kylo might be very powerful in the force, but they are not fully trained. Kylo might trained, but clearly not to the same level as Jedi were, as while he may have been injured, he still lost to someone who had never fought with a lightsaber before. There may have been time to train a bit more between TFA and TLJ, but that's still minimal.

[@springtrappurpleguy315]

@David Rungger they don't only use the sticks they also use like every other weapon they can find

[@SageSea1]

@@springtrappurpleguy315 including a fucking missile launcher and their own custom starfighter lmao

[@jgonzalez5884]

Bro they literally had to edit weapons out of their hands otherwise they could have killed them both ten times over, literally only reason they lose is because anyone going against ray even palpatine himself is no match because as the movies have proven its impossible for her to lose pr do wrong

[@gorillone86]

TFA and TLJ never happened. They are the pipe dream of SJW/LGBT/Disney

[@TheMartyandy]

@David Rungger Their weapon could be set to different shock variations, from a simple stun to a deadly shock. They could also use it to fire electric projectiles.

[@flynnstone3133]

The Noghri are quite obviously the best bodyguards in the galaxy. They are fiercely loyal and I've never known one to... betray its leader. (Side note: Two videos in one day?! Is this a late Christmas gift?)

[@Dalipsingh111111]

You Sir, are awesome!

[@austincorreia53]

You sir are the best commenter on KZbin by far!

[@jediarchives7826]

*Noghri

[@christiannewaye7306]

Grand Admiral Thrawn no not at all Clone shock troopers could probably obilerhate the Noghri from existence !

[@Oh_well339]

Grand Admiral Thrawn A shame they pinned you down just as you were about to claim victory.

[@goldtigre4979]

IG-100s should take the top spot imo. We haven’t seen enough of them honestly they’re both the best battle droids available and they’re incredibly fun to watch in everything they’re involved with

[@jackattack8098]

Those are red guards that yoda pushes back not royal guards

[@dylancarroll4623]

Jackattack809 are they red guards or something like that.

[@raikenette]

Jackattack809 yes yes finally someone

[@thyreradim7885]

THEIR ALL THE SAME DAMNED THING.

[@KyleWallPuncher]

Thyre Radim no they where the first red guards but they where just glorified senate commandos. Their wasn’t no royal guards to defend the emperor because none where trained, so he just took senate commandos and gave them the position of royal guard until he had better options.

[@margokenny9801]

Jackattack809 yes you are correct

[@ForgottenChronicler]

“Channel my inner Jake Paul,” I lost my shit when he said that

[@fullerva1]

Praetorian guards may have better armour than previous troop, but kylo and Rey are no where near as trained or deadly as the Jedi during clones wars.....

[@willbritt6136]

fullerva1 But you have to remember that it is scripted by Hollywood. If the guards acted to their full potential, the series would have been over in that very scene.

[@owynpeschke5964]

fullerva1 Rey has the power of Marry Sue

[@TaGF_Tomcat]

Heroine plus no odds in their favor equals aforementioned heroine winning becaaaauuuuuse Mary sue

[@natedaniels3655]

It's hard to be an effective warrior when your weapons are edited out of your hands..

[@imlonelypleasehelp5443]

Nate Daniels hahaha I love this

[@ilikesnow7074]

Rey was untrained and snoke’s guards lost, they cannot be the best

[@tonyfortier8835]

The first thing a soldier learns is to keep an eye on his equipement. Elite soldier charged of protecting the most wanted man in the galaxy loosing their equipement mid fight ? Hmmm

[@ulysses3083]

Styd' Antoine Tbk also clearly missed multiple opportunities to kill Rey probably on purpose because they were suicidal

[@SonicSP]

She survived a desert planet since a kid as a scavenger fighting mostly with a stick. She's hardly new to close combat.

[@thedynamicdoggo4155]

SonicSP are you defending TLJs shitty choreography?

[@d-wizzel4217]

​ SonicSP Yes. Scrapping with a stick against desert scavengers trying to steal from you is not at all different to lightsaber combat with 8 (supposedly) highly-trained elite combatants, all trying to kill you outright. Not to mention with choreography so poorly thought out, it's a wonder it ever made it into the film. These guards could've been really fucking cool. Instead, you get a really, really shit fight scene (even if you like it, it is an objectively poorly thought out and executed fight scene) with two people who should not do nearly as well as they do. This could've been the moment when Rey and Kylo get crushed and have to run from the fight, both of them barely escaping after assassinating Snoke. It could've given us some stakes. But instead, Snoke dies in anticlimactic fashion, Rey and Kylo kill every single guard, and the Rey just straight up disappears from the throne room after they destroy Luke's lightsaber. Granted, even if the fight scene was handled flawlessly, that doesn't excuse the rest of the film. Or any of the other movies Disney has pumped out.

[@martinnikolov38]

I wonder how palpatine would of reacted if a royal guard somehow managed to kill Vader in a face off

[@Historian474]

He would probably do experiments on him to try to give him force powers. There were a few ancient Sith Artifacts that could do this, but I'm not sure if Palpatine had his hands on any.

[@obiwaankenobi4460]

*BOOM* New apprentice.

[@Goudafortuna]

That would be cool but none of them ever came close to touching him let alone damage him

[@failingbadly24]

Well Sheev was actively trying to replace Vader ever since he lost his limbs

[@ditmarvanbelle1061]

He would use that to spin a convincing tale to recruit young Skywalker as his new apprentice

[@raptorus7773]

For praetorian training and stats, I would suggest the last Jedi visual dictionary.

[@wilburforce8046]

Raptorus77 so that book actually does something other then covering plot holes in the movie?

[@theamazingoppo4918]

It says nothing about stats

[@mellowwookiee7533]

Joseph Burger Yeah, its pretty good for collecting information on stuff like this.

[@raptorus7773]

The Amazing Oppo I mean it has details on armor, and skills.

[@jennytalia6724]

*Trained by Mickey Mouse himself in the art of the Keyblade, the Praetorian guards are super edgy and cooler than their enemies* except not really...

[@BenjaVOM]

PRAETORIAN GUARDS OR JEDI TEMPLE GUARDS! THEYRE BOTH BADASS

[@BenjaVOM]

Nevermind looks like it's Senate Guards instead of Jedi Temple Guards

[@applejuice7847]

too be honest after having watched a video about the training of the imperial guards you earn massiv respect for them

[@Cenentury0941]

well, they both have one thing in common both snoke and the jedi are dead XD

[@savedphelps8369]

I still think the Royal guards are more powerful. Think about it, One royal guard stopped and forced an entire division of stormtroopers to retreat not mentioning the fact that they were trained by Vader himself. Praetorians lost to some scrubs in a pretty dumb way as well.

[@CaptainCoolzCT-]

IG-100s would DISMANTLE the two mere weaklings that Big Snoke's Guards couldn’t.

[@davidbooth46ify]

Praetorian lost to a stupidly fucking overpowered force wielder, the strongest the galaxy has ever seen alongside another overpowered git. How many times do I need to go over this you fucking idiot

[@davidbooth46ify]

@@CaptainCoolzCT- IG were rusty shits, Anakin took out 4 in mere seconds.

[@Cryogenius333]

@@davidbooth46ify Anakin Also had years and years of training. Rey had plot armor and a bad choreographer.

[@davidbooth46ify]

@@Cryogenius333 exactly I know that

[@emirwattabor6991]

The Confederate Magna-Guards were unmatched in strength, prowess, durability, and loyalty, even able to survive a Lightsaber attack, and match a Jedi in terms of skill and power. I use them myself.

[@knicks5426]

Tbh. Straight facts. They don’t feel pain, making them better than organics already

[@countdooku591]

As shown in the Clone Wars I have the best guard: force lightning

[@jansensoh7921]

Count Dooku *(cough)* *(cough)*

[@obiwaankenobi4460]

Cheater...

[@brutalightsparcake1649]

Pff I have better guards my swords

[@mikal9904]

Count Dooku palatine's lightning is better

[@spencerjacobsen329]

Count Dooku heck yeah you do

[@generalgrievous4341]

My guards are personally trained to fight well trained Jedi knights and masters. The Praetorians lost to some untrained peasant girl who got lost in a supermarket and a moody Darth Vader fanboy who was trying to impress her.

[@joshuakim5240]

You know...in all seriousness the Magnaguards do have the most impressive track record of any elite guard corps in Star Wars while the Praetorian guards technically have the most humiliatingly worst.

[@xexarainx1243]

joshua kim well the force is a really new one and I feel like they will be improved. The magnaguards were there for a long time and have been improved throughout their existence but they weren’t as smart as living humans just programmed to fight not use their head so yea.

[@joshuakim5240]

+Exarain Gaming Still, that doesn't change the fact that the Praetorian guards in a 8v2 against a fledging sith and a noob jedi had a similar result as the Magnaguards in a 2v2 against Obi-Won and Anakin in their prime. The Praetorians may be flashy and showy, but they're not effective.

[@badger3761]

joshua kim I mean they almost killed rey and kylo multiple times but ya know, plot armor

[@generalgrievous4341]

Exarain Gaming I trained them myself! They most certainly can “use their heads”!

[@guardsmenedwin6213]

You know who’s going to be last when the only footage available is a dozen of them getting killed.

[@iliekpiez5327]

My List 1.Magnaguards 2.Imperialguards 3.Praetoinanguards 4.Republicguards

[@eirikreigstad3649]

Agree

[@jasonutty52]

Accurate

[@Blevin_]

I agree as well

[@cartonwaffle]

Agreed

[@ceTarnity]

Praetorian guards are autistic literally the throne scene is one of the worst fight scenes ever. Republic guards which are literally conscript troopers with blasters are better than them

[@Zetra_the_meh]

I feel that the magna guard should be in second place. The can use most weapons effectively. They can also take down jedi. While I don't think they beat the pretorian guard is a 1v1 fight I do think that if they were to go up against kylo and rey that they would last just as long (or if not longer) than the pretorian guard

[@thyreradim7885]

but magna guards almost beat obi wan and anakin and we know they are much better than kylo and rey so logically the magna guards would kill/capture rey and kylo.

[@TheKingDango]

I think that 8 magna guards vs Kylo and Rey would absolutely destroy them. Only 2 kept Obi wan and Anakin busy for a while imagine what 8 together could do. I specify 8 because I believe that's how many praetorian guards were fighting Kylo and Rey.

[@Zetra_the_meh]

Jiralhanae and Cure star wars has always had super obvious plot armor but I see were your coming from it seems alot stronger in this trilogy

[@kirzuvo7145]

Magnaguards for life.

[@InevitableVitare]

Magnaguards *and Droidekas, even if they weren't in the video. Droidekas (and Battlefront 2, the original) single-handily made me love the CIS. If you account for the ability to deploy them in greater numbers than any of the other options, Magnaguards would definitely win this.

[@kirzuvo7145]

InevitableVitare They were good droids they could beat jedi with ease if there was no plot armor.

[@datnoob4394]

8 Praetorian guards were beaten by 1 Sith Lord and some force sensitive with no combat training

[@emirwattabor6991]

Agreed.

[@Suckitbruh]

dat noob To be fair, as you just put it, they were beaten by a Sith Lord.

[@cybersmith_videos]

One underrated advantage for the Elite Praetorian Guard: they seem to work together well. We see them come to one another's defence, with one who had been disarmed taking a blow from Kylo to protect his fellow, who still had a weapon.

[@ryanm6004]

I think you may be forgetting that the magnaguards are capable of learning, which would allow them to adapt to a new enemy quickly.

[@knicks5426]

Thank you

[@adrianmemer4740]

The guards that yoda knocks down are the red GUARD that are chosen for loyalty, NOT skill.

[@kevray]

Yoda would still destroy them

[@vinifalleroliveira]

The Praetorian guards are hard to rank, so we shouldn't put them on top or bottom, since we got no theorical knowledge about them.

[@ulysses3083]

But the weapons of the praetorian guards just disappear and they missed multiple easy opportunities to kill Rey

[@JimmyDean59]

Ulysses S Grant Answer: Plot armour

[@Cheffingtondathirdorso27]

@@JimmyDean59 no, curse of vanishing

[@ho213]

@@Cheffingtondathirdorso27 but they haven't died yet

[@spartanpawn007]

1&2) Imperial or Magna. Both could operate competently outside of what they were meant for. 3) Senate Guard. Ultimately a semi-law enforcement and investigative agency that constantly found itself having to deal with well armed and well coordinated threats, sometimes straight up military threats. 4) Praetorian Guard. The Praetorian Guard was *specifically* trained to deal with lightsaber armed combatants, and lost a fight in a 4-to-1 engagement between a somewhat OK combatant and one whose lightsaber training couldn't have amounted to more than a few weeks worth. Put simply, the Praetorian Guards are EOD techs that can't diffuse bombs.

[@probablyswifty209]

What about the fact that two magnaguards put up a serious fight against Anakin and Obi-Wan? While 8 of the praetorian guards couldn't defeat rey and Kylo. Even though both Rey and Kylo are powerful, they are not even close to as powerful as Anakin or Obi-Wan.

[@CRaZYLPs2508]

Wel,l Obi Wan and Anakin killed them in like 20 seconds while it took Rey and Kylo about 5 minutes to succeed. Also Rey and Kylo almost died multiple times while Obi and Ani didn't seem to struggle at all

[@Williaem00]

Man I miss young obi wan . Not into Rey at all. In fact her character bothers me in the Star Wars world .Kylo ren is a decent character tho

[@abccba3673]

Pretty sure 8v2 with magna guards would of been a different story

[@flameconvoy7424]

GENERAL GRIEVOUS to be fair anakin and obiwan didn’t seem to be struggling nearly as much as rey and Kylo. If I remember right, anakin and obiwan never got hit and dealt with them with relative ease. Rey and kylo were struggling much more, likely due to them being not nearly as skilled as anakin and obiwan

[@rudyerickson3830]

Kaeden Ngai-Natsuhara there weren't 8 though.

[@jackdymock-brown8495]

The two guards yoda threw against the wall were not imperial guards they we red guard which were not trained anywhere near as well as the imperial guards and were chosen mainly because of their loyalty to palpatine

[@JuanPerez-jr2lw]

Jack Dymock-Brown they were senate guards

[@Williaem00]

Doesn't matter what they were . Yoda is strong in the force and threw them into the wall knocking them out. How could any guard stop this : p

[@kevray]

Who cares even if they were imperial guards Yoda would have done the same thing

[@feet3857]

He’s just pointing it out... who gives a shit about yoda? he’s irrelevant to the video.

[@Dalipsingh111111]

5 Executor Class Super Star Destroyers VS. 5 A-Wings

[@haxxor-xl4fz]

you have to be joking

[@CompactCowboy]

It’s a joke, a super star destroyer blew up in the first trilogy when an a-wing slammed into the bridge of another star destroyer causing it to hit the super star destroyer.

[@haxxor-xl4fz]

good

[@Entrau]

It would be a draw.

[@dexter5004]

Liam Pitney the a wing crashed into the SSD executor bridge. i know it looks like its a normal star destroyer but its not you can see the Hole in the SSD bridge

[@adammullarkey4996]

8:40 Also, this was just after Order 66; there hadn't been enough time for the training program to take effect; they were probably just senate guards in red robes at that point.

[@EckhartsLadder]

Want some Eck merch? Visit www.teespring.com/stores/eckhartsladder Having issues with the code, I'll have it fixed within an hour.

[@brucejedilee5290]

EckhartsLadder Was this based on my suggestion on which faction had the best royal/honor guards? You did say you liked the idea, though my suggestion was different from this

[@missinginaction2b]

EckhartsLadder no dislikes on this video yet. good job. but try to leave Jake Paul out of it.

[@foxtrotdelta225]

I would buy something if I wasent skint. And this is by far one of my favourite series of videos. Keep up the great work.

[@kharnthebetrayero9036]

key thing about the praetorian guards they were terrible at defending snoke.

[@camerongooch9606]

Star wars is my city

[@ChrisSmith-xw5vw]

I think you're really underestimating the Magna Guards. I can't see 8 of them working together losing to 2 force users, even ones as powerful as Kylo and Rey. Just 2 of them did pretty well against Obi-Wan and Anakin.

[@codacious14]

Good point, but I'm pretty sure there's a Clone Wars episode where Obi Wan or somebody takes on several of them at once. Although, admittedly he is Obi Wan, and much more skilled than Rey and Ren anyway.

[@yraco1232]

Chris Smith another point is it probably wouldn't be just 8 of them because I'm willing to bet you'd get more droids than guards with the same time and resources.

[@wolfgod6443]

There's a difference between winning and barely winning. The fight in TLJ was really close. I could easily see Rey and Ren dying as a possible outcome. With Magnaguards, Anakin and Obi-Wan didn't have much trouble with them. Hell in TCW either one could kill a Magnaguard in just a few seconds. They are by no means weak, but a Magnaguard does not beat a Praetorian (although Magnaguards are way more efficient cause there's more than 8 of them in the whole galaxy and can be built rather than trained for years). You can't go off of "A beats B, so A must also beat C" in Star Wars, there are just too many factors involved in SW fights (hence why some people are STILL analyzing lightsaber duels in the movies).

[@ChrisSmith-xw5vw]

Wolfgod 64 I'm not going by TCW, I'm going by the fight on the bridge in RotS between the pair of Magna Guards and Anakin and Obi-Wan, and if there had been 8 of them on that bridge then Obi-Wan and Anakin would be dead. I simply can't imagine 8 of them losing to a pair of force users. You say that you could see Rey and Kylo losing to the Praetorians, I on the other hand can't see Rey and Kylo WINNING a fight against 8 Magna Guard. I'm unable to think of a way that would happen that doesn't involve a ridiculous amount of plot armor nonsense.

[@codacious14]

Wolfgod 64 Good point.

[@DimoB8]

The most versatile are the Droid magnaguards, they can fight hand to hand,use malee weapons, blasters and pilot fighters.But at the normal role the first order guards are the most useful and awesome.

[@thyreradim7885]

well senate guards have their own ships and have special forces and they fight melee and in range.

[@CrazyHorse151]

Are you 12? Awesome?

[@thyreradim7885]

+CrazyHorse151, stfu

[@thyreradim7885]

+Mr. Kowalski, do you hate them that much?

[@devinkonikow1480]

And they can also operate with no head

[@jhay3966]

I'm still siding with the magna guards. Staff spinning skills, multi-weapon, can survive headless, and those dope-ass capes.

[@benjaminhigham3624]

I'd love to see more of Snoke's guards, but Disney says no. Snoke and Starkiller are all gone too. Thanks. And please don't fall to the Dark Side... Viners on KZbin! Great video as always.

[@LiamCameron77]

V8 AMG577 I think snokes alive

[@benjaminhigham3624]

Liam Cameron Hopefully, we know nothing about him

[@CompactCowboy]

V8 AMG577 I bet he is, maul survived a similar injury, and snoke said he was the one connecting Kylo and Rey through the force right. If that’s true and it happens again at the end of the movie then he’s probably still there. Or I’m wrong and there’s something special between them.

[@ibanarregui7752]

V8 AMG577 SPOILERS BRUH

[@certifiedlosenger4300]

People complain about not knowing more about Snoke but conveniently ignore the way the original trilogy was just as vague regarding palpatine. People who hated TLJ should remember that a lot of people disliked ESB at the time. As for the hyperspace ram y'all are just pisssed off because you hadn't noticed the biggest plothole in the majority of Sci-fi (if we can go superliminal why not just ram/teleport an empty ship into the enemy) It makes sense from a tech perspective as well, the Empire had large interdictors to stop hyperspace travel, both in fleets and on the death star the First Order probably dropped them, following the implementation of active hyperspace tracking. (Also turns out the bombers were pushing the bombs out with magnets and the juggernaut would have deployed fighters earlier if not for Admiral Hux's arrogance. The majority of Star War's point defence only seems to work at medium range)

[@tiefighter8401]

Who wins? Blue guys who stand there Red guys who stand there Guys who actually do something

[@jonasn7739]

Or robots who fight

[@demi-femme4821]

you forgot blue and grey robot guards who do something

[@magister.mortran]

Depends on what the competition is about. If it is about standing longer, then the guys who have special training in standing would win.

[@felmaraquino1204]

Yes kylo and rey beat the pratorian guard because they have something special called Plot armor

[@apparentjewel1154]

Felmar Aquino yup there were multiple times that Rey and Kylo should have died in the fight

[@IncrediibleHauck]

Rey should’ve died in the first movie

[@muffenman4557]

I would afire that the guards had more plot armor than them because they have zero accomplishments that we know of

[@xdk362]

The Praetorian guards are totally the best. They have incredible skill of spinning for no reason and very powerful disappearing weapons

[@juice5951]

Popcorn - Check. Whiskey - Check. Eck - Check. Best Saturday night.

[@Realchrishansen1776]

The guards that Yoda slammed into the wall were Red Guards of the republic, not Imperials Guards.

[@spiritvdc5109]

Honestly I do love the variety of weapons used by Snoke's praetorian guard, and I feel like they would've been far more formidable if the plot hadn't demanded that Rey auto-win with no actual advantage

[@OmegaGamer414]

Revans Sith Empire vs Galactic Empire

[@daniellien6704]

OmegaGamer414 galactic empire hands down, Star destroyers are sooooo much better than Revan’s ships, not even counting dreadnoughts

[@brakdanych4329]

Daniel Lien all revan need to do it's get ISD plans and start mass producing them until he overfload emipre fleets

[@daniellien6704]

brak danych unless the empire finds the star forge first, and only if he gets the plans, also the empire already has a huge fleet, and not even the star forge can produce a fleet that size quick enough

[@brakdanych4329]

Daniel Lien the problem with the empire is that although they have huge fleet they won't gather hundreds of them because it would make their own system rebel, also what is easier to do strike any shipyard or destroy death star sized space station protected by huge fleet and shield that is able to destroy whole fleets, probably the first strike force empire would send would just be destroyed by the shield and knowing how good empire officers are probably few other fleets would be also destroyed before they would find out why their fleets crush on rakata prime

[@memoriam1868]

yesss

[@wiebesijpkens3440]

At 8:36 those are not the imperial guards yet just senate guards in red robes

[@williamfisher8642]

Ya

[@demi-femme4821]

(At least in Legends) They might as well be Royal Guards

[@thyreradim7885]

HOLLY CRAP RED GUARDS AND ROYAL GUARDS ARE THE SAME DAMNED THING.

[@thyreradim7885]

THE FIRST GENERATION WAS JUST SENATE GUARDS WITH RED ROBES.

[@wiebesijpkens3440]

Radim that is what I meant

[@willjiggetts6682]

I would have put the IG-100s before the imperial guards but other than that good job EL.

[@codacious14]

Idk. Imperial Guards fought against Darth Vader and protected the Emperor, Magnaguards were trained by and protected Grievous. There is a big difference in what they were trusted to do, which I think speaks to their abilities.

[@willjiggetts6682]

Cody Orvik yea but you have to take i to account the difference in their training and equipment, force pikes wouldnt be able to penetrate the IG-100 due to them being made of metal and even if they could the guards have two motivators so it could keep fighting, also the magnaguards have electrostaffs.

[@stampguy7305]

You forget they also came equipped with a heavy blaster pistol and could carry vibroblades into combat.

[@wolfgod6443]

Magnaguards could bring rocket launchers into combat.

[@stampguy7305]

So could a Imperial Guard, your point? The standard Magna guard is going to bring a electrostaff into a fight, an Imperial Guard is going to have a heavy blaster under his cloak, so that immediately gives them an edge.

[@method789]

"Last Jedi" guards was the biggest disappointment, they should be the best of the best but still nine of them lost to one untrained girl and Kylo, by making stupid mistakes

[@AmonGus-zx5zr]

I mean Kylo and Rey did have plot armor tho...

[@ChristopherPBacon1]

So you’re telling me that they were a big disappointment because they lost to a Sith Lord with Skywalker blood, and the grand daughter of arguably the most powerful force user to ever exist

[@autisticduck3071]

Connor Brown Both who are pretty shitty with lightsabers

[@henryvdl3692]

Well, what’d you want to happen? It’s not like they can kill the two MAIN characters off just because some fanboys wanna see them being cool’. They actually put up a really good fight against a literal Skywalker and someone who’s been training with weapons her whole life. People say the Magma guards are better, but if they use the magma guards with the logic that they use for the prartorians, then they suck. They lose to a couple Jedi within seconds

[@davidbooth46ify]

It wasn't nine, it was eight. Any time they came close to beating a shitty character that Disney made stupidly fucking overpowered, Disney just made their weapons vanish out of thin air.

[@excelsior8712]

Your inner Jake Paul must be contained. Merch leads to vlogs. Vlogs leads to Team 10. Team 10 leads to cringe.

[@brennancollins8103]

The Ren Den lol

[@dylanscofield5219]

Cringe leads to the dark side.

[@thealvatar6181]

To be fair, we're watching a video comparing the guards across the star wars cannon. I don't think we get to decide what is cringe.

[@epicsheepgamer7002]

IMO the Magnaguard would be the most efficient

[@epicsheepgamer7002]

The CIS (Droids)

[@pharoahman475]

the fact he put the senate guards above them is ridiculous.

[@owynpeschke5964]

EpicSheepGamer they aren’t very perspective, Kenobo force pushed a giant metal box onto them

[@753ACEOFSPADES]

Idea for a topic video, why imperial and first order star destroyers are portrayed as weaker than they should be in the movies, eg in rogue one, when the imperial 1 is disabled you can see all of its main turbo battery’s are all in their resting positions meaning they arnt in use, why would they take it easy? Looking for your opinion

[@peterosborne8315]

viking laird because it's a good vs evil story and if the evil guys uses their overwhelming power and obliterated the good guys it wouldn't be a 'good' film (from Disney's and Lucas' POV)

[@pnbproductions6008]

Plot amour

[@leviathansalvtore8888]

In rogue one you have to remember that it was an infiltration team sent to the planet this can later be seen once the explosions happen while this happens you notice all the officers are in shock and stunned to react this can also be shown in the star destroyers for one they like the officers in the tower were not expecting an attack let alone a fleet jumping on top of them most of them would be in shock to react even when being pushed together by the hammerhead you can later see this in the technicians reactions when they were dying there was complete shock and confusion

[@753ACEOFSPADES]

jason salvtore once the rebel fleet jumps in, its all out battle, not the infiltration, the imperial’s arnt even trying their hardest

[@thyreradim7885]

because well here think about this If everything is filled with plot armor and effected by it does it exist?? if nothing exists without lot armor in canon then plot armor does not exist isd's and imp's just suck.

[@lennykiller8]

The Praetorian guards look cool and all but they lost while spinning and running around for no reason

[@Ordnance_T]

Plot armor man

[@z9ence136]

What about the Jedi Temple Guards?

[@illuminati5121]

Droids will never be as good as organics? lets sit down and talk about HK-47

[@drksideofthewal]

Illuminati Droids have shown creativity and sentience time and time again, so Exkharts reasoning is odd. #enddroidracism

[@allhallowseve3856]

Because that's not canon, thankfully that went down with the other trash like Starkiller. Ew.

[@ctgslayer]

All Hallows Eve 🍊 hopefully you'll go down with the trash! Starkiller is an amazing character. So is HK-47.

[@CDio-vr3bx]

ILLUMINATI

[@angelrucker5513]

All Hallows Eve 🍊 Yep, KOTOR is definitely trash....

[@bleh491]

I feel as tho the magnaguards should be #1. These guys were capable of killing average Jedi knights in 1 on 1. The Praetorian guards got beaten by practically 1 sith apprentice (rey did almost nothing but distract a few). If any of the guards to fight eachother my money would be on the magnaguards

[@bork116]

bleh491 he is no Sith

[@hotsauce8780]

The magna guards were not competant opponents. They just lasted slightly longer than other droids. Anikin and obi wan didn't really struggle with them. Its just they were surprised they didnt die when decapitated

[@bleh491]

Soldier_76 anakin and obiwan are both master lvl Jedi, not many people could fight and survive that lvl of skill competently. I doubt any of the other guards could do a better or worse job. Ide like to see 8 Praetorian guards fight general grievous and win.

[@Lulu-ex7fc]

By EpIII, the magna guards were no secret to Obi-Wan and Anakin who had experience against them. Watch the Clone Wars last episodes where a whole team of Jedi get hunted down by a squad of Magna guards.

[@wolfgod6443]

Look at the TCW episode "Lair of Grievous", it shows a standard Jedi Knight beat several Magnaguards. No Magnaguard can kill a jedi 1 on 1 (except maybe against a youngling or something). Don't get me wrong, I think Magnaguards should be 2nd place due to their shear numbers compared to their skill. They are extremely efficient I feel, but they wouldn't beat a Praetorian Guard. I should also mention that just because the Praetorians lost to Rey and Kylo, does not mean they're weak. Rey is the second coming of Anakin, Kylo is the successor to Darth Vader, and both have an extremely strong connection with each other. Rey and Kylo barely scraped by in that fight too. They may have won, but it was close.

[@luissera972]

Temple guards Imperial CIS Mandalorian

[@Bandito7537]

Luis Sera Mandalorian, you mean Republic senate guards?

[@randomguy1928]

@@Bandito7537 No, I'm sure he's talking about both the mandolorian protector and the guard from the clone wars.

[@Alex-qq3eu]

I might be wrong but weren't the "royal guards" in the prequel, guards Palpetine (probably spelled wrong) choose himself to keep his secrets from the rest of the senate/jedi/others? Like I said, probably wrong but I just remember hearing that somewhere. Not that I think they would have stood a chance against Yoda, I'm just curious.

[@Alex-qq3eu]

Thanks guys, weren't completely sure. It does make a lot of sense that they aren't of the same caliber, since they would have to be trained in secret if they were, which I doubt would go unnoticed 😊

[@bobnub8194]

The "red guards" that Yoda incapacitates in Ep 3 are not the royal guards, but merely senate guards re-dressed and re-named the "red guard".

[@coldfiresamurai6333]

Bob Nub yes they are royal guatds

[@hispanicbaljeet4076]

ColdFireSamurai they are not royal guard. They are simply loyal senate guards given a higher rank.

[@maddenolson9615]

ColdFireSamurai they cant be royal guards because no way they got trained in a couple days if not hours.

[@magister.mortran]

You hopefully do not really think that George Lucas meant to be them something different. If he wanted them to be something different, they would look different, so people could understand they are different. They looked the same, so they are intended to be the same.

[@HelloDeluxeCombo]

Magister Mortran George Lucas isn’t the only producer. In the novels George Lucas wrote, imperial guards were pretty bad ass

[@apexparker438]

You're one of the smartest people when it comes to analysis

[@Dalipsingh111111]

Thank you. :)

[@chrisscott8066]

Nice profile pic

[@apexparker438]

Chris Scott thank you lol

[@BigSlimeRecords]

Counter Clockwise your profile picture made me not take your comment seriously this forcing a good laugh and I thank your for that

[@apexparker438]

Sgt. Recker I'm glad I made a smile lmao

[@Nadayan]

IMO the Magnaguards were the best, and only downgraded to be "never as good as organics" just so the Clone Wars could be concluded as they were. I'm sure a Magnaguard, with enough training and experience could go toe to toe against a Jedi Knight or even a Master. The ones we saw, were only as good as an experienced Padawan; as experienced as Anakin when he was a Padawan.

[@johngarden5353]

Do a most notorious War Crime (factions compared) episode with a twist: Separatists get the blue nile virus (clone wars).

[@callumpears1523]

Yeyeye zi blue shadow wirus!

[@jinjiyoshi5548]

Sorry guys but blue is my favorite colour and the senate guards will always have a special place in my hearts. I choose the senate guards for having the sexiest outfits!

[@Will-bo7kg]

I would say that the imperial guards should take the number one shot if your using their legends counter part. With one being able to turn the tide of entire battles. Also the two guards rag dolled by yoda in revenge of the sith were the red guard picked mainly for their loyalty to allow the emperor to attend to his alter ego more easily with having one of the senate guards reporting him since they would have protected him other wise. Also the senate guards just seem to be extremely incompetent. Struggling to keep infiltrators outside their ranks, being susceptible to force dominate (mind control) & pretty susceptible to corruption. Lastly the praetorian guards they must be force sensitive since half of the helmets are seem to be completely sealed.

[@90enemies]

"these two have something incredible going on" You don't need to hold back EckhartsLadder just go and say it with me. *IMPENETRABLE PLOT ARMOUR + MARY SUE AS A CHARACTER BASE*

[@generellconfusion2592]

1.Imperial guards 2.Magna guards 3.Pretorian guards 4.Senator guards

[@EdHealey88]

I agree 100%

[@thatguyoverthere468]

Empire #1 First order #2 Separatists #3 Republic #4

[@pigeonbee8570]

Magnaguards are best!

[@toeseater2855]

I think the MagnaGuards should be at the top, we've seen them in actions before and know that they're extremely effective (Republic Commando, truly a pain in the ass), they were also specifically trained to fight jedi 1 on 1, that already put them miles ahead of the Praetorian guards and Grievous see them as almost equal to his old Kaleesh elites, and that really means something

[@shifu4343]

At the beginning of every video you should put a point total for every team that won so we could see who is the "best" faction at the time.

[@amandamikula2168]

Hey Mr. Cucumber!

[@shifu4343]

Hey!

[@Alchemist1330]

Senate guard obviously. They are the only ones who didn't let their target get killed. Definitionally they were the most effective guard.

[@turningtides1007]

Alchemist1330 there was two killed I can recall. senator farr(poisoned) and a senator shot by cad bane when he held the senate hostage

[@Arashmickey]

Naboo handmaidens > other elite guards

[@gerbliherbli6561]

Alchemist1330 they were definitely*

[@Alchemist1330]

No. I meant definitionally, as in the definition of a guard is to protect someone else from harm. Chancellor Palpatine never was harmed under their watch, so definitionally they were the most effective.

[@Alchemist1330]

probs I was just speaking of the movies.

[@Alexzander1989]

I don’t quite see how Snoke’s guards have better weapons when Palpatine’s guards have both close and long range combat. I will grant you Snoke’s boys seem to have better close range weapons, but Palpatine’s guards do carry heavy blaster pistols on their person and there was one instance of a guard dual wielding his vibro weapon with his heavy pistol. Not to mention that one Royal guard went on to singlehandedly turning the tide of an entire battle. Honestly I think if it came to it, that Palpatine’s guards would kill Snoke’s guards

[@monkeman5370]

Alexzander1989 no dude praetorian guards have armor that can deflect any blaster shot and can even deflect a slight lightsaber strike (however a direct hit or stab would penetrate it). There weapons were top technology and they're training was even better. there's just no chance for the imperial guard to win but 5 imp. Guards on 1 praetorian would have a chance I think

[@Alexzander1989]

Darth_Traitor Better training? Yeah um, their fight against Rey and Kylo would beg to differ Meanwhile again, we’ve seen that a single imperial Royal Guard can turn the tide of an army vs army engagement. And the opposing Imperial commander was scared shitless when he learned a Royal Guard had entered the battle. The guard even shot down a Tie Interceptor that tried to gun him down by shooting the pilot through the transparasteel with his heavy blaster. Snoke’s Royal guards have some interesting weapons, I will admit, but if their fight against Rey and Kylo is any indication, their training leaves much to be desired

[@monkeman5370]

Alexzander1989 yes we saw more of imperial guards because they were here longer but again you said that an imperial guard would beat a praetorian guard which is just impossible if you really get your head out of your ass and look at they’re armour,weapons and training. 1praetorian>5imperial guards. Its just research my friend. Nothing more, nothing less

[@Alexzander1989]

Darth_Traitor I have looked at those factors and here is what I’ve learned, both guards were trained in a variety of hand to hand combat styles, including Echani martial arts. Both have high quality armor, though I haven’t found anything that states the armor of the Praetorian guards can deflect blasters (if you have a source I’d appreciate that) and the only part of the armor that seems to be lightsaber resistant are the gauntlets/vambraces since one of the guards did stop a strike from Kylo with them. However, the rest of the armor seems to be plastoid like other Stormtrooper armors and thus has no resistance to lightsabers. Snoke’s guards seem trained exclusively for melee combat, and probably just with the weapons we see them wielding. Palpatine’s guards on the other hand are trained in a wider range of both common and exotic weapons from blasters, to force pikes, to Vibroblades, to arc casters, to even lightsaber pikes, meaning they have far more options and ways to defend their Emperor. And seeing as Snoke’s guards don’t seem to have Force powers, I Do think that in a one on one fight, Palpatine’s royal guard would defeat Snoke’s guard. Palpatine’s guards clearly have the better training and frankly the better performance record. If Rey can kill these guys when her skills can’t be anywhere near what you’d expect for a royal guard, then that doesn’t bode well for Snoke’s guys.

[@monkeman5370]

Alexzander1989 first the source is from the TLJ visual dictionary. Second, of course we saw imperial guards do more, praetorian guards are new (although your source is legends which is non canon idiot). Rey and kylo are one of the most powerfull canon force users we’ve seen so far so of course they won ( akthough snokes guards almost killed them both). Sheevs guards just have nothing they can hurt snokes guards with (even if they had better training than snokes which they dont). And yes they did have more options to defend the emperor with but the point is they basically never did xD. My final point: its ok you prefer imperial guards more theyre really cool but you shouldn’t let your inner fanboy blind you.

[@fedoradragon9905]

The praetorian guards are useless, had they accrually known how to fight both Rey and Kylo ren would be dead within seconds

[@davidbooth46ify]

Hardly, they're the strongest fucking force wielders the galaxy had ever seen but shitty Disney had decided to dump them into the trash as soon as they were introduced like Disney does with any actually fucking worthwhile character that could've had a major impact on the movies.

[@FarremShamist]

@@davidbooth46ify They didn't really use force powers during the battle, it looked more like a straight up normal fight between drunkards.

[@0mikronAlpha117]

Okay, Snoke's guards died quickly in a six-on-two against Kylo and Rey. I would not place them any higher than 3rd in my list. To me that fight seemed lacking on the part of Snoke's Guard. 1. Palpatine's Guard 2. Magna Guard 3. Senate Guard 4. Snoke's Guard

[@bananabob4753]

Imo senate are the worse because lack of training and skill.

[@knoxtheworld]

Ye

[@adzo147]

@@bananabob4753 senate guards were clones and clones would destroy praetorians

[@davidbooth46ify]

Omg your a literal piece of shit. They lost to two of the strongest force wielders the galaxy had ever fucking seen and yet they still held their ground. They would've won if Disney didn't keep making their weapons fucking vanish out of thin air. They are literal remastered and better versions of the before fucked up imperial guards. The Droid guards were rusty shits, Anakin easily fucked up 4 in mere seconds. And Senate guards... They are the literal police versions of the shitty imperial guards, so honestly, just shut the fuck up you demented twat.

[@felafnirelek8987]

I'd switch magna and senate guards. The magnadroids held their own against two of the best Jedi in the order, while the senate guards generally seem to end up as cannon fodder when we see them in fights.

[@xxayahadc394]

The 2 guards that yoda killed in Episode III were not royal guards they were normal senate guards

[@magister.mortran]

It is the same. They look the same, so they are the same. This is how movies work.

[@obiwaankenobi4460]

Magister Mortran Idiot. Palpatine couldn't train anyone effectively in that span of years. So he just got senate guards and put them in that armor. Then when the Galactic civil war happened, he started training. Fuck off.

[@javi_gn]

GAEM Lore So...technically they still are Imperial Royal Guards.

[@junyi3091]

*grevious* injuries

[@Indigo-ke5dq]

The Imperial Royal Guards should be ranked at first, if we'll consider the different divisions and variants of the Guard it'll be totally ranked first on the tier list. Examples like the Shadow Guard, force sensitives trained by Darth Vader and wielded red lightsaber pikes. A similar varient to the shadow guard was the Saber Guards unlike the shadow guard in full black robes and helmets they didn't wore the robes and their armor was the color gold and used dual wielded lightsabers. The best variant were the Sovereign Protectors, they had the best armor and equipment had access to the royal guard tie interceptors and wielded a double ended vibroblades.

[@thenamesgames6393]

The guards Yoda slammed away were not NEARLY at the same lvl as the one’s we seen in last jedi or perhaps even Rogue One. They were just senate guards with new armour, thats all.

[@arandomgingerbreadhouse4153]

Damn I didn't know the praetorian guards could jump from having wooden shields and steel swords to having light sabers and fancy armor.

[@davidbooth46ify]

It's because Disney is so unimaginative that they have to steal a guards name from ancient Roman history to somehow fit into a sci fi futuristic franchise.

[@EliWintercross]

Imperial Knights are the best. Silver lightsabers ftw

[@lugyd1xdone195]

Id just like to note that the red guards in Episode 3 were the senate guards but in different color, they did not undergo the brutal training as the imperial royal guards and were rather chosen by their loyality to Palpatine, their skill in combat was rather secondary.

[@gaiusmanus7959]

The Pretorians never stood a chance Rey (aka Mary sue) is the most powerful force user ever and "Has no weaknesses" - actual quote

[@raidennashsoho9036]

Temple Guards, HOW COULD YOU NOT MISS OUT ON THEM?!

[@Jay-629]

The double upload dream!!!

[@boomboone47]

Quick note: The guards Yoda threw against the walls weren't imperial Guards, they were senate guards in a different uniform. The Emperor had not yet been able to begin his Imperial Guard training thingy.