whisky review 393 - Pappy Van Winkle 20yo Bourbon

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thewhiskybothy

thewhiskybothy

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@twichavoy
@twichavoy 7 жыл бұрын
It makes me so happy to know you acquired this at a reasonable price, and drank it. Whisky should be enjoyed, not hoarded for profit. Great review.
@jchock1
@jchock1 2 жыл бұрын
I couldn’t agree more. My standing rule is no matter the bottle. If I open it new; I try to enjoy it with a friend.
@cutlerylover
@cutlerylover 4 жыл бұрын
So refreshing to hear someone talk about it who drank it, lol all the people I know who have a bottle wouldn't dare break the seal, haha what a shame...Ralfy is the king o spirits and above all knows they are to be enjoyed responsibly... :)
@GentlemanBystander
@GentlemanBystander 3 жыл бұрын
I never understood this. Something rare and exquisite is meant to be enjoyed, when it's gone, perhaps that is a bit depressing, but can anyone honestly say there life isn't better for having experienced it rather than held it in an indefinite "special occasion" reserve that may never come?
@mcomiskey7
@mcomiskey7 3 жыл бұрын
For all you know it's cold tea you've bought until you try it..
@tkking2331
@tkking2331 3 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to drink a glass of Pappy 23 at my uncle's house on Christmas eve a few years ago. He waited until everyone else left and it was only him, my dad and me. They poured me a glass with 1 large ice cube inside. They taught me the "Kentucky chew". To smell it first then take a drink and hold it on your tongue. It was the best whiskey I've ever had! My dad also had a few bottles of Old Rip Van Winkle 12 year at his house we drank a few times.
@tkking2331
@tkking2331 3 жыл бұрын
I had the opportunity to drink a glass of Pappy 23 at my uncle's house on Christmas eve a few years ago. He waited until everyone else left and it was only him, my dad and me. They poured me a glass with 1 large ice cube inside. They taught me the "Kentucky chew". To smell it first then take a drink and hold it on your tongue. It was the best whiskey I've ever had! My dad also had a few bottles of Old Rip Van Winkle 12 year at his house we drank a few times.
@Olorinii
@Olorinii 2 жыл бұрын
The last bottle of bourbon my grandpa ever had was a bottle of Pappy 20 I got for him on his 87th birthday. This was back when you could find it for just over 100 dollars a bottle.
@robfut9954
@robfut9954 5 жыл бұрын
I used to have the standard Pappy for $60 a bottle with no problems finding it on the shelf. This was 10-15 years ago, it was no more rare than any other high end bourbon. Now it’s some sort of legend. Well let me tell you, I wouldn’t have paid hundreds back then and I surely wouldn’t now. It’s not that much better.
@thewhiskybothy
@thewhiskybothy 5 жыл бұрын
. . . agreed !
@ryanwalter9356
@ryanwalter9356 10 жыл бұрын
One of the best reviews on PVW I have seen. I absolutely love this Bourbon, here in the States finding a bottle is next to impossible so when I did I was going to make sure it was enjoyed and didn't just sit in the cabinet. And boy what a joy it is to drink.
@GentlemanBystander
@GentlemanBystander 3 жыл бұрын
God bless you for it, Ryan.
@Dunkaroos248
@Dunkaroos248 11 жыл бұрын
You're the best Ralfy. I haven't had a drink in 2 years but I still have to watch the reviews because it's always an education and your passion for the spirits comes through
@stephenpartain5488
@stephenpartain5488 3 жыл бұрын
Ralfy is simply the greatest reviewer of all things whiskey!
@10AYounglove
@10AYounglove 11 жыл бұрын
Ralfy, you are truly an educator. Thank you for what you do. I am 21 years old, and because of people like yourself, I have more a healthy respect for alcohol than do most seasoned adults. With reviews like this, you make the experience of drinking safer, more interesting, more enjoyable, and cost effective (quality over quantity). Thanks again.
@scotchnstogies
@scotchnstogies 11 жыл бұрын
thank you for clearing up cola cubes. you've used that descriptor before and I hadn't any clue what it was. and when you used it in this review I wanted to jump through the screen, shake you and yell "what the HELL is a cola cube?!?!" and then you told us. great stuff Ralfy. as usual. cheers!
@bondb0O7
@bondb0O7 5 жыл бұрын
I recently got me a 2018 20yr! Will enjoy every last drop. Thanks for the review
@jandasalovich6469
@jandasalovich6469 Жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. Have never tasted this but glad you have. Cheers.
@NothingMaster
@NothingMaster 2 жыл бұрын
An excellent, informative, and entertaining review of a most fantastic spirit.
@CIGARVIXEN
@CIGARVIXEN 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent review, very thorough on the notes and overall experience.
@morrisnell
@morrisnell 10 жыл бұрын
Wow 93% for Ralfy must be good.
@ocwhiskey5404
@ocwhiskey5404 9 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the review Ralfy. I appreciate them.
@theskyspire
@theskyspire 8 жыл бұрын
When I drank this bottle 7-8 years ago, I was surprised by the strong and delicious custard notes which , at the time, felt characterized this whiskey. I am surprised no mention was made of the custard or creamy characteristics which really separates this whiskey from other whiskeys I have tried.
@djhart25
@djhart25 7 жыл бұрын
Whiskys will change a lot over that amount of time
@themaltbar
@themaltbar 11 жыл бұрын
Great stuff Ralfy. Thanks. Ya know every time my Yorky (terrier) hears your voice she pops up on the sofa next to me and listens to ya as if she knows something good is gonna happen! It must be a UK thing! cheers
@RocasThePenguin
@RocasThePenguin 10 жыл бұрын
Certainly not a common man whisky at its price point and availability, but it is incredible. William Larue Weller and George T Stagg are two others that are sensational but priced at a very high level.
@Imthecoach1
@Imthecoach1 7 жыл бұрын
Colonel EH Taylor. Thats my favorite bourbon.
@ChairmanMeow1
@ChairmanMeow1 7 жыл бұрын
one of the few super-hyped whiskies Ive tried that came close to living up to its hype
@straightfromthebarrel5393
@straightfromthebarrel5393 10 жыл бұрын
Even Pappy 20 these years is starting to thin out, apparently Pappy 23 is still pure Stitzel-Weller Juice, so the stock is starting to thin out. Bourbon makers also have to char their oak barrels in order to be classified as bourbon, and they cannot be reused...they actually go over seas to a lot of Scottish distillers. The extreme heat really lets the spirit get into the barrel and the winters help pull it back out and get that flavor. I've also noticed they sit higher up in Rick houses than at Scottish or Irish distilleries.
@johnsaia9739
@johnsaia9739 7 жыл бұрын
Now the Japanese distillers are vying for used Bourbon barrels in large numbers. Interesting how whiskey distillers have a hand in helping each other.
@themaltbar
@themaltbar 11 жыл бұрын
Hi Ralfy. When you spoke (a while ago) of altering your marking system nobody has mentioned adding a decimal. That can easily differentiate the subtleties of a spirit where either an 88.1 would be "quite different" than an 88.7 (or latteraly an 8.1 as opposed to an 8.7) That decimal can really isolate the correct intent of the mark (Stars?? nahhh, too tight a system.) anyway something to think about Ralfy ...We did & that's why we wrote you on this fine post-Summers day. Cheers
@matthewbrady1607
@matthewbrady1607 5 жыл бұрын
Another one bites the dust. Salute!
@ranuts2
@ranuts2 11 жыл бұрын
Yes! Useful information, highly entertaining and most informative....thank you.
@josephralls
@josephralls 10 жыл бұрын
Ralfy please do another burbon series!
@jasonbeary5771
@jasonbeary5771 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great, insightful review. Ralfy has gotten rather cranky recently and rightfully so, but I feel better after this review instead of saying all that is wrong with things.
@MrTomTraubert
@MrTomTraubert 11 жыл бұрын
HAd my chance to snap a bottle of this last year in Edinburgh. Decided not to pull the trigger due to the 30% price increase on all of the pappy line up. Looking back now I wish I'd have manned up and bought it because I hate to think of the price this year! If you liked this one Ralfy, you ought to try the mighty George T Stagg, it's a less refined beast but it's one of the most complex and interesting bourbons out there. Grab it if you get the chance. Cheers mate!
@jameswinslow613
@jameswinslow613 9 жыл бұрын
Very good, you are perfect for this kind of thing Ralfy, informative and entertaining. :^)
@RichR65Ct
@RichR65Ct 4 жыл бұрын
I been doing my research quite proactively in this one lol.I dont blame you,I noticed that in a couple others as well.Nice review .
@catchafish2day
@catchafish2day 7 жыл бұрын
Ralfy would Pappy be the best bourbon you've tasted? If you find a bottle, try Colonel EH Taylor. Currently it's my favorite in my price-range.
@thewhiskybothy
@thewhiskybothy 7 жыл бұрын
. . . no, the best was an old Heaven Hill from a few years back.
@ABen-wk4uj
@ABen-wk4uj 7 жыл бұрын
Actually, American white oak is not the requirement for Bourbon. It DOES have to be new charred oak barrels but they can be French oak barrels if the distiller wants to.
@bmorgette
@bmorgette 11 жыл бұрын
I don't want this series to end, but I'm on pins & needles waiting for the Turkey 101 review. As far as Kentucky Straight goes ... Turkey 101 was my first love.
@crisklm79
@crisklm79 11 жыл бұрын
hi Ralfy. great review, great bourbon. have you ever tried John J. Bowman Single Barrel? How good is it? Whats your opinion about Jason Pyle and his reviews? thanks.
@tjseymour3081
@tjseymour3081 2 жыл бұрын
Pappy is on my bucket list man
@glenwoofit
@glenwoofit 3 жыл бұрын
I've drank a couple of bottles of that. I wish I could get more at at reasonable price
@MrBanditz28
@MrBanditz28 5 жыл бұрын
I am in the USA , and I can't get Pappy. Johnnie Blue is pretty smooth though. Probably not as good as Pappy but Blanton's is very enjoyable. Fairly rare where I am , but obtainable and delicious in my opinion.
@HefeHeadBeerReviews
@HefeHeadBeerReviews 11 жыл бұрын
need some advice. Trying to get into whiskey(even whisky). I have bought several sample bottles including Knob Creek, Maker's Mark, Wild Turkey 101, Crown Royal and Dewar's White label. I have tried the Knob Creek and Maker's so far. I am diluting it slightly with water but I can not get over the harshness of the alcohol to appreciate the complexity of the drink underneath. Will the perceived harshness fade the more I try it or do you have any other advice? Thanks
@TJC12890
@TJC12890 8 жыл бұрын
I wonder what the difference is between the 20 and the 23 versions of Pappy. As not an entirely experienced drinker they taste very similar to me.
@alfu2169
@alfu2169 5 жыл бұрын
Enjoy it definitely best bottle I see on your shelf
@claytonblachly4031
@claytonblachly4031 6 жыл бұрын
Incredible 20 years old like you said 1980's to bottle in the 2000's
@zachsmith3376
@zachsmith3376 8 жыл бұрын
I can see where i live on that map. Alabama. Nice review
@RockSmithStudio
@RockSmithStudio 7 жыл бұрын
Zach Smith I live in Alabama too. In Bham!
@herrhrodulf1208
@herrhrodulf1208 5 жыл бұрын
Doh
@StevenCalwas
@StevenCalwas 11 жыл бұрын
I don't have personal info about the different wheat preparation processes at S-W and Buffalo Trace, but my impression from the description I read was that the S-W method produced a relatively coarse grain of varying sizes, while the modern BT process results in a fine powder. Don't know if all that's true or how it will affect the final whiskey. Just passing along what appeared to be credible information.
@shanemcdowell4852
@shanemcdowell4852 11 жыл бұрын
Fantastic review. We just got our annual shipment in today. I'm hoping to snag a bottle before the supply dries up.
@J155P
@J155P 5 жыл бұрын
I remember seeing this for $90 around 2009 for so. It was too rich for my blood. Wish I would've bought it but fuck all the high priced, hard to find, rare, sought after liquid that isn't worth nearly what people are willing to pay for it.
@notme123123
@notme123123 11 жыл бұрын
I heard an interview with one of the Van Winkles and the only PVW with S-W juice, now, is the 23 yo, and even that is coming to an end in the next year or two. That being said, I think Buffalo Trace has done a tremendous job in producing PVW. I was lucky enough to get a bottle of the 15 yo, a few years back. I'm pretty sure is Buffalo Trace distillate, and it is outstanding. The only thing they didn't do well is plan for how popular this would become.
@Rich206L
@Rich206L 9 жыл бұрын
Ralfy, I found your site quite by accident when my son told me they weren't making Green label anymore! The best JW ever! Anyway, I have watched about a half dozen of your videos and I must say that Cmdr. Scott would be proud of you! All kidding aside, you know your stuff and I can see I will become a regular viewer. Good health, long life and happiness! Cheers from NY, USA, Rich
@thewhiskybothy
@thewhiskybothy 9 жыл бұрын
Rich206L . . . happy to help with the malt-moments !
@unctarheels5612
@unctarheels5612 9 жыл бұрын
+ralfystuff ralfy, which Johnnie walker green is the one they discontinued? I think it may still be in some stores where I live and I would like to pick it up. Thanks!
@donnieP
@donnieP 2 жыл бұрын
Is it really a better experience for the price over that bottle of 101 Wild Turkey?
@thewhiskybothy
@thewhiskybothy 2 жыл бұрын
. . . no.
@donnieP
@donnieP 2 жыл бұрын
@@thewhiskybothy I thought so.....my house whisky/whiskey, Macallan 12 yr & Wild Turkey 101, value stuff! USA speaking!
@dirgeofthedawn
@dirgeofthedawn 11 жыл бұрын
while I don't drink too much whiskey (that's my fathers territory) I've got to say your reviews are fantastic. excellent work! subscribed.
@themaltbar
@themaltbar 11 жыл бұрын
Here's an analogy Ralfy...sounds like our friend John Glasser is the Pappy of Scotland. Using ONLY the best wood that can be found here on Gods Green Earth. ahhhh wood. gotta love it. cheers
@bmorgette
@bmorgette 11 жыл бұрын
As Ralfy says... Patience. We've all been there. It just takes time. I used to mix my whiskey with cola. Now, I can't imagine ruining it by mixing it with ANYTHING. In the early days I would put my Turkey 101 on ice and drink it that way. Now, I've found I prefer it right out of the bottle at room temperature. With the exception to a few very high proof whiskeys
@TheChianello
@TheChianello 11 жыл бұрын
Ralfy, thank you for this great review. But I must ask you, is the $200.00 USD price justified considering Elmer T Lee can be had for only $30.00? Cheers from across the pond, SamC
@shuboy05
@shuboy05 11 жыл бұрын
On a related note, Diageo is apparently reopening Stitzel-Weller in the near future. Except the new distillery will probably be making rye bourbon for Bulleit which is currently being supplied by Four Roses. Like Brora, S-W Distillery was essentially mothballed hence why it doesn't need much to restart (like new equipment).
@rogerwilco59
@rogerwilco59 10 жыл бұрын
I like it when /ralfy is a lil bit pissed (drunk) haha makes the review for me then!
@ACIDICcitric
@ACIDICcitric 11 жыл бұрын
Currently have 1 of these baby's in my collection! Bought one 7 years ago and I didn't know what I had but thank goodness I've been lucky enough to happen upon one at a bottle shop in East Windsor, CT
@StevenCalwas
@StevenCalwas 11 жыл бұрын
After not caring much for Bernheim and the taste of wheat, it turns out you are indeed a wheat fan, Ralfy. Pappy is a wheated bourbon, in which wheat replaces the typical rye component. It's generally believed that the wheat in Pappy provides its special characteristics. Also important was the way the wheat was prepared in the old Stitzel-Weller distillery. The current Buffalo Trace wheat preparation is different, and future Pappys are not expected to reach similar heights because of it.
@themaltbar
@themaltbar 11 жыл бұрын
Hello again mate. we just spoke to JohnG from CBW and he's so graciously imparted an appx. wood:spirit ratio to achieve maximum flavor.If anyone needs further direction contact the Maltbar if you wish to repair the declining "classless malts" line that I can see from the negative comments are alive and dying an ugly death. w/American know-how. along w/capacity proportions I have interpolated the necesssry variables to rescue this declining SMS dilemma. Its all about the wood(as if we didnt know)
@freddieslaughter1107
@freddieslaughter1107 10 жыл бұрын
I wish American whisky & bourbon could make a bourbon like this one, very good review, but I will never be able to buy a bottle.
@AlosDiallo
@AlosDiallo 10 жыл бұрын
Depending on where you are you may be able to try it at a bar.
@JRHeikk
@JRHeikk 11 жыл бұрын
Wish you had a chance to try the bourbon from the distillery I work at. We use non-GMO organic corn and grain. Cooked, distilled, aged, and bottled all on sight deep in the heart of Texas. If you ever get the chance in the future, watch out for Garrison Brothers Texas Straight Bourbon!
@BRogoMU
@BRogoMU 11 жыл бұрын
I know you're not asking anyone but Ralphy, but check out: -Old Forester Birthday Bourbon ('97 was delightful, but hear the newer releases are good as well) -Russell's Reserve Single Barrel 10yo -WL Weller (made by Buffallo Trace - check out BT website for more) -Corsair Small Batch Triple Smoke (best of 2012 Whiskey Advocate)
@StevenCalwas
@StevenCalwas 11 жыл бұрын
Some have claimed that the method used to process the wheat in the Stitzel-Weller distillery is different from that used in the new Bernheim/Heaven Hill distillery and that this change will affect the quality of the resulting bourbon.
@birstallblue
@birstallblue 11 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the pappy van winkle review . Sounds like it's one I won't get to try .
@texlad04
@texlad04 11 жыл бұрын
I didn't know about a different wheat preparation. Of course, depending on the release date of the reviewed bottle of this PVW15, it's already not 100% SW whiskey and quite possibly a lot less. Each release of 15 that I've tasted has been just a bit different. But all good. Harlan's team do a fine job.
@Brad-ic4bp
@Brad-ic4bp 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize that even back in 2013 Pappy Van Winkle was so rare and hard to find.
@aseq2
@aseq2 11 жыл бұрын
That seems quite high for an average, but we don't question your preselection of good liquor!
@knarfzxc
@knarfzxc 11 жыл бұрын
Agreed, definitely my favourite from Buffalo Trace even when tasted alongside Pappy. Perhaps next go around Ralfy will be able to source a bottle.
@gummybearkiller1
@gummybearkiller1 11 жыл бұрын
How about a series of reviews of malts that go into blends and rarely sold as single malts?
@Imthecoach1
@Imthecoach1 7 жыл бұрын
Bookers and Noahs Mill are def worth a try. Books is the best of the beam line.
@snidelywhiplash
@snidelywhiplash 11 жыл бұрын
One last thing that just hit me - AIUI, bourbon is not legally bourbon if it's aged in a refill cask. (Please correct me if I'm wrong.) So, if what you're saying is true, the people at McLain & Kyne (owners of Jefferson's) should be in considerable trouble with the FTC and TTB - both for false advertising and mislabeling their whiskey.
@ion1984
@ion1984 11 жыл бұрын
note the elmer t lee back there is like almost gone... ^^ so good
@cobblewright
@cobblewright 6 жыл бұрын
Such a shame that this is not available. Too many greedy hoarders have spoiled things for everyone.
@McSoappy
@McSoappy 11 жыл бұрын
Just as a brief FYI the barrels don't have to be American oak, just oak. Willett uses French oak quite a bit.
@StevenCalwas
@StevenCalwas 11 жыл бұрын
Within the last year, I read an interview with the people currently in charge of Pappy releases (I think it was an issue of "Whisky Advocate") who said that ALL Pappy releases younger than when the S-W distillery closed in 1991 are ALL Heaven Hill spirit. So if you want any S-W spirit today, that leaves the 23-year Pappy or later.
@Malt454
@Malt454 11 жыл бұрын
I'd agree, and while there are some truly excellent American whiskies, I do think the main current US advantage is being able to play the wood/NAS game more cheaply and at least as well, if not better, than the Scotch industry, much of which was encouraged to go in that direction by the success of Bruichladdich. I think Glaser has done some very good things, but is also close to showing the limits of improvement through casking; whether it ever returns or not, the rest is aging.
@claytonblachly4031
@claytonblachly4031 6 жыл бұрын
Omg this sounds incredible from your notes unfortunately un available to me ever unless at msrp which may never happen
@jorgex2007
@jorgex2007 11 жыл бұрын
Ralfy, what is the ideal serving temperature for whisky? Thanks.
@texlad04
@texlad04 11 жыл бұрын
In fact, a significant amount of American bourbon is not distilled by the company that bottles/markets it. It's an interesting phenomenon. This is what makes a real craft distillery like Stranahan or Balcones so important.
@mUnky889
@mUnky889 11 жыл бұрын
"No arse-holes present." Good advice Ralfy :D ralfy I'm trying to find more bourbon to add to my drinking collection (I sip them all). I really love Baffalo Trace; many of the more expensive american whiskies I've tried, I haven't enjoyed as much as BT. (Eagle Rare single cask, Woodford reserve, Sazerac rye, Booker's/Baker's/Basil's. I love Lagavulin 16 in the scotch range. Next on my bourbon hitlist are E T Lee and Elijah Craig 12: Can you provide any more hints for direction to take? Cheers
@thehipsters_9533
@thehipsters_9533 7 жыл бұрын
Hey Ralfy do you think this bourbon is worth $210 USD nowadays? Have you had a chance to try the new releases of Pappy?
@thewhiskybothy
@thewhiskybothy 7 жыл бұрын
. . . the Pappy thing is now big-buck hype, steer clear and look out for ' bottled in bond' stuff, good luck.
@thehipsters_9533
@thehipsters_9533 7 жыл бұрын
I get that but have Sazerac been using younger parts of the whisky to cut costs now that its become so popular?
@johnsaia9739
@johnsaia9739 7 жыл бұрын
YES! We discovered you are indeed correct in the "Bottled in Bond" recommendation. The whiskey was better than a peer product that did not have the "Bottled in Bond", even from the same distillery! Great call Ralfy!
@4minutewarning
@4minutewarning 11 жыл бұрын
the 15 year old pappy is incredible too. actually i believe many prefer the 15 to the 20.
@6string42
@6string42 6 жыл бұрын
I just looked at the current going rate for this bottle and I truly hope you didn't pay that much! And if you did, I hope that it brought you immense happiness!! Holy sticker shock, Batman!
@thewhiskybothy
@thewhiskybothy 6 жыл бұрын
. . . I paid $110 when it first came out, never bought it since the 'theatre' began.
@6string42
@6string42 6 жыл бұрын
ralfydotcom thats acceptable. My last search came up with $2800 at the low end! For 3k it better add ten years to my life and 3 inches to my....beard
@Palmetto_Traveler
@Palmetto_Traveler 11 жыл бұрын
Ralfy, Have you reviewed Bruichladdich Rocks ? Cheers!
@TheJusnic82
@TheJusnic82 9 жыл бұрын
Although im not a big bourbon drinker, or rum as I just find them too sweet (most of them) I do love the names of bourbons. Pappy Van Winkle? That's just spectacular....Unfortunately here in Canada bourbon is about as popular as cricket. Only bourbons we really get are the mass produced garbage.
@richardbostan4286
@richardbostan4286 9 жыл бұрын
+TheJusnic82 -- I don't know where you live in Canada, but in the Vancouver area we have access to some of the better bourbon brands. It isn't just the cheap stuff here. Still, the bourbon selection available in BC should be a lot bigger than it is.
@chris2words
@chris2words 8 жыл бұрын
+TheJusnic82 oh bourbon is getting bigger here all the time .in fact ontario has allocated lotteries for buffalo trace antique collection and a current lottery for pappy .but our selection sucks partly because of the demand .in fact larceny bourbon from heaven hill is only avail. in 14 states
@snidelywhiplash
@snidelywhiplash 11 жыл бұрын
I'm quite aware of the proliferation of NDPs in the bourbon trade. It's quite well-known among bourbon drinkers (as evidenced by the fact that I know it). I've had both Balcones' and Stranahan's products, and am familiar with quite a few other craft distillers. Their stuff is just peachy with me. I'm also aware that Jefferson's is sourced, but they claim it's actually S-W juice, not just "casks," whatever that might mean.
@snidelywhiplash
@snidelywhiplash 11 жыл бұрын
Now wait a minute...are you just referring to the JPS 21 year? Because on Ralfy's review #388 of Four Roses Single Barrel - not *two bloody weeks* ago - you personally wrote: "The 17 and 18 Stitzel-Weller casks were great." Which is it?
@texlad04
@texlad04 11 жыл бұрын
Regarding Jefferson Presidential Select, I know the person who blended casks for one of the batches. It is most certainly not Stitzel Weller. Sorry to disappoint. SW casks is what the bottle says. I do love the 17 so I am not saying its a bad whisky. But I don't know that it's better than the old Weller Centennial 10 which is long gone except for a few dusty bottles in forgotten liquor stores.
@gregmartin1757
@gregmartin1757 4 жыл бұрын
This stuff is excellent but nearly impossible to acquire and very expensive. Goes for ridiculous markup prices on secondary markets.good review but very unlike many people would actually be able to ever acquire a bottle
@shuboy05
@shuboy05 11 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad to actually get a taste of S-W bourbon when I got my hands on Jefferson's Presidential Reserve 18. However the somewhat excessive woodiness tells me one thing: the Van Winkles kept the best casks because it seems the Van Winkle 20 doesn't have that aspect.
@funwithpeatandsherry
@funwithpeatandsherry 11 жыл бұрын
I've had a taste of the 15 only. I thought it was magnificent.
@grandepdre
@grandepdre 11 жыл бұрын
Well at least you're at a Festival, so you have a good reason. But, I believe that the respect many have for you and the resulting celebrity you have in the spirits world would take care of any expenses to get you to Kentucky someday soon.
@barnz008
@barnz008 11 жыл бұрын
Allocation in MN has gone from cases and lotteries at special events just to buy it, to a few random bottles to now nothing. The managers at the liquor stores simply laugh at you the moment begin to utter the name. Thought I'd have some luck with Stagg Jr but not a chance in h-e-double-hockey-sticks.
@Malt454
@Malt454 11 жыл бұрын
I agree and, as Amrut and Kavalan have found out, accelerated wood interaction isn't necessarily the same thing as "traditional" age maturation.
@tweezerjam
@tweezerjam 2 жыл бұрын
That wild turkey 101 on the shelf is suuuch a better value. I’ll never taste pappy because it’s outta my price range but I’m fine with that. Its $25 😐 4:50 my man said “warm, earth” as if we know what he’s talking about. Not room temperature earth? 😂
@chrisbruchet2449
@chrisbruchet2449 9 жыл бұрын
I am watching this review as I want to wait to open the bottle of this I have in the bar. Humble brag I know, but so glad I sat on it.... The eagle rare 17yo my wife used for BBQ sauce, however, hurt....
@FirsToStrike
@FirsToStrike 9 жыл бұрын
chris bruchet I'm sorry for your loss. Be it for the Whisky, or for the wife after what she did to it...
@BobPapadopoulos
@BobPapadopoulos 9 жыл бұрын
+chris bruchet I made a whiskey and Coke with this stuff at the local bar a few times. Watching people cringe is hilarious.
@TheJusnic82
@TheJusnic82 9 жыл бұрын
+Bob Papadopoulos rye whiskys are the best with coke
@FireMrshlBill
@FireMrshlBill 8 жыл бұрын
+Bob Papadopoulos I think I'd cringe more at using coke instead of ginger ale more so than using Pappy. Though I personally stick to polluting lower tier bourbons like Virginia Gentleman or whatever the well/rail bourbon is.
@BobPapadopoulos
@BobPapadopoulos 8 жыл бұрын
FireMrshlBill Love Virginia Gentleman. Best cheap bourbon, hands down.
@bmorgette
@bmorgette 11 жыл бұрын
Personal preference here, (and I know I'm not ralfy) but I would say not justified. There are MANY bourbons that can be had for a far lower price, and easier to come by that will satisfy your taste buds. Elmer T. Lee, as you mentioned as well as Blanton's, Michter's, Bernheim (wheat whiskey, not bourbon), Makers Mark, Angel's Envy, Elijah Craig 12, Jack Daniels Single Barrel ... just to name a few
@Tantrum777
@Tantrum777 11 жыл бұрын
Its a shame you did not get a hold of some George T. Stagg for this series. Nice review though.
@notme123123
@notme123123 11 жыл бұрын
I believe the requirement, for bourbon, is only the initial aging of new make. Once it has been aged, sufficiently, in new oak, I believe you can do whatever you want with additional "finishes".
@StevenCalwas
@StevenCalwas 11 жыл бұрын
Lotteries for Pappy are actually common here in the US, if it's available at all. Worse, I suspect most bottles are bought up by the store employees without ever getting to customers. As a US citizen, I consider Pappy bourbon to be something that exists in another dimension, something I'll never experience. Anyway, given the prices I've heard ($250-400+), it seems like a "Guaranteed to Disappoint" bottle, Ralfy review notwithstanding.
@TheKoreanStarrbuck
@TheKoreanStarrbuck 7 жыл бұрын
Rabbit Hole bourbon out of Louisville, KY. I think it's worth your time good sir.
@drgallup
@drgallup 4 жыл бұрын
Buffalo Trace releases bottles of this every year but the only way mere mortal can buy it is if it sold in a lottery with only a 100% markup. Otherwise it's sold on the secondary market at 2000% markup. You missed out one of the most important features of Pappy and that is the mash bill. This is the sine qua non of WHEATED BOURBONS that use wheat as the secondary component after corn. All bourbon must have at least 50% corn and traditionally the secondary grain is rye with some malted barley for fermentation enzymes. Wheated bourbons replace the rye with wheat. This makes them softer and also lets them peak at longer maturation. Cheers!
@randallk2556
@randallk2556 Жыл бұрын
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