White board series #5 Supercharger power delivery

[@jdrizzle_5.0]

Loving the whiteboard videos! It is really a great way for people to better have access to the right kind of information.

[@spicychickensandwich4196]

Great explanation of torque delivery based on type of blower chosen. This is gold for the young guys just learning and making choices about FI. Very educational

[@Torque_N_Beans]

These just keep getting better and better. This is probably my favorite so far. Quality info supported by data, got to love it!

[@whipplecripple4404]

Thanks!

[@krombopulosmichael7994]

at 7:08 rotors on top of the engine TVS: HUUUUUUHHHHHHH HERE IT IS HAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!

[@whipplecripple4404]

Love these videos, super like every one of them

[@nickmahramus5034]

Best part of this " HUUHHHHH HERE IT is..... HAAAAAAAA"

[@Two_trucks]

Need more of these videos!

[@Teddyatlastwobrsincells]

Reason why I got a whipple for my 6 speed. Power band is so broad and you know you’re making boost at 2k rpm haha

[@yaboiiitroy]

Love the series Tio! Thank you for going the extra mile to explain so much!

[@markuaw1]

Very happy with the 2650 supercharger on my 21gt instant torque for days

[@Thekingdeleon]

A year ago I decided it was time to boost. I caught up on game watching all of Alex’s streams and decided I wanted to feel the r2300 Alex praised. I’m rocking a 69mm with a 20% lower today and I have to say I am so happy I listened to his advice. I am never bored in the car. Put the pedal half way down at any rpm / gear and it puts you in the seat.

[@jdbruce8595]

If these videos continue to be regular thing on the channel, can the badass sound effects stay as part of them as well?

[@rsoito74]

I'll take the instant with the tvs and just gear it the way I want...👍🤙💪

[@Joebauers2505]

Haven't watched it all yet, but the simple introduction into information is very educational, now you can point to exact videos to repeat questions

[@israelr6636]

Great video. I'm still learning about these topics so thank you Alex for the video. I want to auto-cross and road course my Mustang some day soon, so this information will help.

[@Maynard93]

Loving these style of videos. Never can get enough knowledge. Even if you think you know it front to back

[@stevenwest6038]

Thank you

[@AtticAZ]

@4:08. Also because the bypass valve doesn’t fully close until throttle is maxed.

[@TristenMazzone]

Wouldn't mind a more technical series on turbo stuff at all, lol

[@lost0187]

Rotors on top of the engine 😂 it is the best daily.

[@a.wheeler7731]

Torque and HP always cross at 5252 rpm

[@monterogers]

These white board videos are more valuable than Ford racing school... change my mind

[@EliazS550]

I had a vortech on 3.33 pulley on my gen3 now I have an ESS and the tq is wayyy better and in my opinion comes on a bit sooner than vortech.

[@dre04mach]

I have an auto with a paxton and a 3700 stall... perfect combo for me. Drives like stock down low, until you hit it; then it's at 3700 instantly, and the party gets going... I have plenty of traction issues, and I can't imagine having more tq down low with my torque converter... if I had to give that up for a PD blower, meh... I will say that I envy how clean the PD blowers look like installed compared to my snakepit. The torque booster thing looks dumb, seems like more heat and stress everywhere so you get a bit more airflow down low... with the right torque converter, you're not at low rpm for longer than half a second...

[@marcozr3138]

Alex talk about the differences between 2.3 tvs vs the bigger ones i think 2.3 is better for the street

[@robostyle9773]

Thanks again for another great video

[@232chrisn2]

TORQUE BOOST !!!!!!!!!!🤣

[@Twobarpsi]

Great info Alex 👍🏁

[@AeroCS2]

Alex wanted some Burger King

[@williamwolf6750]

Hey Alex, I think you would enjoy watching Richard holdener’s channel everything he talks is right up your alley! He does a lot of testing and comparisons of different parts. Check him out.

[@400hpmustang]

Centrifugal all day long, much less heat soak and great gains.

[@midnight347]

At the boost levels the high compression coyotes see you don't see enough boost to deal with significant heat soak issues. The modern 2650 tvs rotor pack especially the vmp versions are very efficient. Thinking that roots blowers heat soak badly is an old outdated way of thinking. Centris are lazy as hell and for a street car I want more action lower down especially with a stick car. To each their own they both serve their purposes it depends on what YOU like to do with the car. My car is 99% street car so I want instant response and badass torque.

[@StreetRacingHaven]

No thanks brother I can’t agree with this one especially since I’m getting a 3.0 whipple on my gen 1 Scotty

[@evanstevens882]

Bruh.. the shirt 😅

[@9SecondStreetMustang]

But Alex what if I get a centrifugal and then put 430 gears in the rear? 🤣🤣🤣

[@michaelperez7472]

Good information

[@djrandol3841]

So, 23 F150-Tremor... 5.0. What to you recommend? Whipple or TVS? and what TVS?

[@midnight347]

Vmp odin. 2650 rotor pack same that 2020 gt500 and c7zr1 use they have oem reliability and can go over 100k without a rebuild. Odin is the way to go for coyotes imo. Gen3r is same rotor pack if you prefer a rear feed design.

[@Flyingsangwich]

A factor that isn't on a dyno... is total cost and maintenance. Also, who's buying any type of forced induction to stay under 5k rpm?! Reving the coyote engine out is addictive.

[@eurly93]

The 5.0 is already SUPER lazy below 5k rpm. No reason to go centrifugal and just exacerbate the issue. If you're building an LS / LT platform, then it makes sense because the low end torque isn't lacking

[@YDBT4LIFE]

Centris are some of the quickest cars we tune.

[@DrewPWebos]

How can we contact you directly for Tuning?

[@YDBT4LIFE]

I work for Lund. That's the only way

[@DrewPWebos]

@@YDBT4LIFE got it, but its dependent on what Tuner gets your ticket I assume? Does lund review other tuners/datalogs to determine whether a Tune is up to par? For a fee of course.

[@YDBT4LIFE]

@@DrewPWebos no we don't review other tuner logs. And correct no guarantee you'll get me on the ticket.

[@kawicepticon8866]

Alex make a vid for those who cant visualize the boost over rpm for all three different power adders, I think once they see X amount of boost at 3k from a TVS vs X amount from Centrifugal unit at the same rpm it will click for em... If not they need a new hobby lol

[@midnight347]

But roots blowers heat soak so badly omg man haven't you heard? Lol I'm jk I'm tvs all day that is the kind of shit centrifugal guys say. The modern tvs is very efficient especially vmp versions and they have oem reliability and can go well over 100k driven hard without a rebuild. This is another thing alot of people never factor in.

[@fordmooreperformance8079]

Do it dealerships suck!

[@ryanbosley57]

People choose the centri kits because they are cheaper without any consideration to how they'll drive.

[@Fbothoughtofmind]

100%

[@midnight347]

That and everyone bases everything on what can get me to xxx rwhp. They don't even consider the power curve and how they want it to drive just which one can make xxx power any of them can basically break 800 wheel on a coyote with good fuel it's a matter of what sound you like and how you want your power deliver. They will set a goal at xxx power and most times centris can get you there cheaper so that's that lol.

[@ryanbosley57]

@@midnight347 vendor's that shall remain nameless are a big cause of that.

[@DrewPWebos]

You would be a Millionaire 🤦‍♂️ Dont understand why, in America we dont eliminate the "Middle Man" and just make others RICH? how do we reach you?

[@Antoine_99]

I’m 100% sure he would be extremely stressed doing what he does independently vs doing it as a employee. Plus dudes ballin, you seen all his cars? I wouldn’t go fixing what ain’t broke, being an employee ain’t that bad.

[@DrewPWebos]

@@Antoine_99 he's just being modest and not overly zealous. Who knows, maybe there is a "no compete clause" 🤨 either way im sure he has leverage.

[@camyota]

Just your local N/A peasant here, I know why people get centri superchargers then complain about the way it feels. Because they heard one on KZbin or in a car and for some ungodly reason they liked the "jet engine" sound of it so that's what they got without doing any other research. I personally hate the way they sound at idle and the long as psssssssssh from the BOV so you will NEVER hear me complain about the way a centri performs. 😂

[@paulp90]

It's because people just think centri's sound cool. Same as when the gays loved Termi's because of the obnoxious whine. They don't look into anything other than "it sounds like a jet mannnn!".

[@169abr]

@@timweb1510 a fox with a Vortech and a cam is just pure bliss.

[@Shamilt3]

I'm going centri, but figured out how to make as sleeper as possible. I don't want to hear or telegraph that shit lol

[@midnight347]

​@Grant Winburn centris worked well with a fox power curve because they had good torque on motor and limited high end power. The coyote is already a high rpm screamer a Centri magnifies this some may like it depending on what they're doing with the car. For a mostly street car ecsp with a stick shift tvs all day imo. The way they whip up can't be matched even from the twin screws it takes a decenly larger twin screw to match what a 2650 can do which makes it lazier. Even if they were equal size a tvs will still spin up faster by design. I love tvs blowers.