THIS THING LOOKS REAL! - Pulsar Echorec

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White Sea Studio

White Sea Studio

5 жыл бұрын

They really designed the interface well... or... did they?
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@ReactarooSkidoo
@ReactarooSkidoo 5 жыл бұрын
I like the realistic look. It makes me feel that they spent a lot of time on the plugin. The collapse button was a really great idea. And for a plugin that takes up this much screen space it is much needed.
@Zatore_
@Zatore_ 5 жыл бұрын
I like the analog style UI's because I have never used any of this vintage gear. I've been stuck on default UI's for a long time and vintage looking plugins are striking to look at.
@MrlegendOr
@MrlegendOr 5 жыл бұрын
I prefer analog looking plugins. I don't like pro Q interface (very cold looking and no inspiring). This plugins sound dam good!
@erics2860
@erics2860 3 жыл бұрын
I got over plugin user interfaces a while ago. It's all coding so the UI is just for the pretty
@allen394
@allen394 5 жыл бұрын
Its very easy to oil the motor! Just use SNAKE OIL!
@unfa00
@unfa00 5 жыл бұрын
I think you'll need to buy "digital motor oil" in form of a serial number to feed it every couple of months so it runs well...
@MultiFreddy34
@MultiFreddy34 5 жыл бұрын
lollllll
@XChristianNoirX
@XChristianNoirX 4 жыл бұрын
🤣 🤣 🤣 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
@GuidoQuinceMaat
@GuidoQuinceMaat 5 жыл бұрын
This UI seems to be a thing you come back to a lot and while you make a very solid point I feel like there is a distinction to be made. I agree with what you're saying when we're talking tools, like EQ, compression, de-essing and limiting. I love Fabfilter for these tasks because they make work efficient, insightfull and hassle-free. When we're talking creative effects (or even vintage-vibe FX like tape emulators or vintage modeled EQ's and compressors known for their vibe more then their uncanny ability to add distortion-free processing) I kind of love a skeumorphic UI for two main reasons. One is mentioned in a lot of other comments I've read, which is: A nice visual presentation can sort of trigger inspiration. But it is also a way to quickly find your way around a plugin, and even more so around various plugins. One has big buttons, one has smaller ones. Labeled, unlabled. Maybe the drive button has a grittyer look then the feedback button? I tend to loose my way on OSC-esque-controllersa lot for example. They're clean and efficient, but I keep having to read the label because the buttons themselves don't tell me anything. Echorec actually goes a step further, because the visual representation actually tells a story about what you're doing! For the non believers: I believe in Cubase/Nuendo you can actually shut the UI off and have a list of labled controllers if you'd like. Wouldn't surprise me if you could do the same in Reaper and maybe other DAWs.
@OliverAmberg
@OliverAmberg 5 жыл бұрын
To be honest. I prefer analog looking plugins. And this in particular is very easy to use and understand. People with tiny screens can user other plugins.
@bloodyproduce
@bloodyproduce 5 жыл бұрын
Of course, if you're making an emulation, it should be analog looking.. Analog looking plugins inspire me better..
@peterbrandt7911
@peterbrandt7911 5 жыл бұрын
Me as well. Am I influenced by that? Probably, like all of us, I assume. Do I care? Not a bit. All instruments (I just call plugins that too) try to attract potential buyers. I never saw any company, which makes ugly stuff on purpose.
@MrlegendOr
@MrlegendOr 5 жыл бұрын
I don't like flat cold looking plugins
@lonnyhandwork422
@lonnyhandwork422 5 жыл бұрын
I agree. Can’t imagine why you’d go to a “modern” interface for an emulation of a classic device. It looks great and looks how I’d expect it to.
@peterbrandt7911
@peterbrandt7911 5 жыл бұрын
@@lonnyhandwork422 Exactly and maybe people have used stuff like that before and can apply this.
@xtrct7303
@xtrct7303 5 жыл бұрын
I have to somewhat disagree with you. Some plugin that designed with that modern flat look actually worse IMO (looking at you, Voxengo, and also Ableton, ofc not the newest ableton plugin like the Wavetable), because their UI doesn't really 'inspire' you to use them. Ofc it's the brilliance of Fabfilter's designer to design such an intuitive and usable modern UI, but I also really like some of those skeumorphic UI like those in Arturia plugin.
@critical-thought
@critical-thought 5 жыл бұрын
Fingers off the tape!!!! 😄 Nice thorough review, and enjoyed seeing your email exchange with them.
@hersheybell8444
@hersheybell8444 Жыл бұрын
"If it's a faithful representation, it must break down a lot" - that is priceless!!
@martijnvandongen
@martijnvandongen 5 жыл бұрын
I demoed this plugin a while a go. I really like it on vocals and guitars and you can also use it as a distortion effect since you can set the delay on 0. I played with it and I think the GUI is pretty nice and easy to learn but in the end I didn't buy it. Although I really like the sound of it but I didn't buy it because sometimes I like to tweak a bit more. I went for the ValHalla Delay. Cheaper and more flexible!
@treztracks
@treztracks 5 жыл бұрын
I love the way it looks and sounds I have to try it
@RealHomeRecording2
@RealHomeRecording2 4 жыл бұрын
I like your GUI collapsing and vintage vs. modern/clean/Fabfilter-like choice ideas. It was pretty funny that you demo'd this on a vocal and not a guitar. Sounded pretty good to my ears!
@robertoj.fernandez2189
@robertoj.fernandez2189 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds great I’ll use it. Great video
@XChristianNoirX
@XChristianNoirX 4 жыл бұрын
I will probably get this one. Just the drive alone sounds awesome.
@TonySkiens
@TonySkiens 2 жыл бұрын
I agree. Looking at the analog interface gives inspiration and then motivation.
@psysword
@psysword 4 жыл бұрын
Bought this plugin....awesome. Awesome. One of my favs. Very cool delay to work with.
@chanceneck8072
@chanceneck8072 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds actually pretty cool!
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 5 жыл бұрын
I havent tried it yet but from the feature set one things is, more sync options (no dotted eighths) and a delay time read out, yeah maybe use you ears but typing in a delay time you want and tweaking from there can work really well.
@DavidGarcia5300
@DavidGarcia5300 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the review! I am a Studio One/Logic and was wondering if you would do some videos on you DAW and how you use it in conjunction with your analog equipment. forgive me if you have already made videos about them.
@evoltap
@evoltap 5 жыл бұрын
Do you have Logic? I think you would like a feature logic has: in the top right of any plugin is an option called “view”. This switches between the flashy/rusty/moving-graphic interface of the plugin, and “controls”, which is just bare bones sliders and value fields. I use it to keep some plugins on the screen since they become VERY small. Personally I HATE plugins like this one with useless moving graphics. Not only does it take up real estate, but it’s taxing your GPU unnecessarily. GPU isn’t something we generally think about, but we want our wave forms and meters to be snappy and accurate in real time.
@GapRecordingsNamibia
@GapRecordingsNamibia 5 жыл бұрын
100% correct! could not have said it better!
@electrofuzz7396
@electrofuzz7396 27 күн бұрын
The drive knob is magical, it's my favorite delay for any electric guitar.
@TjKdlc
@TjKdlc 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds really good... Thanks
@JimGramze
@JimGramze 5 жыл бұрын
I agree that the top portion of Echorec should be optionally hidden. I do see that the user interface is very approachable and after watching your video I feel I understand it almost completely. As a control freak, I want this immediately: I can tell it EXACTLY how many echoes to create, and how loud they will be, it will sync to tempo, and the tone controls appear to be just right. So you have sold me on this plugin! I will first check out their website and then probably just buy it because it ticks off all the boxes in what I have been looking for. Thanks for this!
@craigsmith2845
@craigsmith2845 5 жыл бұрын
I would love to see you put the GetGood Drums Smash & Grab plugin through your Snake Oil test!
@Table-Top
@Table-Top 5 жыл бұрын
Great idea for a "collapse" button for those on small screens who are not bothered so much about the visuals
@davidsynge7030
@davidsynge7030 5 жыл бұрын
Valhalla Delay? Ticks your UI preference box and has been getting great reviews...
@kimseniorb
@kimseniorb 5 жыл бұрын
David Cantan its outstanding when it comes to realtime delay time manipulation
@Etherealtheband
@Etherealtheband 5 жыл бұрын
wish i bought valhalla delay instead of plate. Love their room plugin
@davidlindvall7267
@davidlindvall7267 5 жыл бұрын
@Erwin Vomberg I second this! Such a brilliant plugin.
@johnstitt2615
@johnstitt2615 5 жыл бұрын
It is a creative delay with no nonsense interface. Sounds good.
@Perseus3248M
@Perseus3248M 5 жыл бұрын
I have had echoboy for a while and it can do similar stuff, maybe a comparison?
@TheGurner1
@TheGurner1 5 жыл бұрын
I have a couple of these type, the IK T-Racks Binson and the McDSP EC300, which is my favourite because it has built in side-chain ducking, which is my favourite thing ever! I must have another half dozen I forgot about ;-)
@FaithMonaco
@FaithMonaco 5 жыл бұрын
Im actually drawn to the more modern technological interfaces like Goodhertz, it seems like plugins with interfaces like that are usually high quality.
@shaft9000
@shaft9000 4 жыл бұрын
"modern technological interface" lol goodhertz' aesthetic is str8 up graphic-designer's dandy-land fluff
@PhatLvis
@PhatLvis 3 жыл бұрын
The spokesperson's explanatory answer to the analog-interface query was excellent, and perfectly persuasive. The realistic interface matters, and helps considerably; a so-called modern, sterile and spartan interface would certainly turn off potential users, including this one.
@PhatLvis
@PhatLvis 3 жыл бұрын
The comparison to Pro-Q is utterly inapt, as Pro-Q is not emulating analog hardware, and therefore has no referent on which to model its GUI.
@neal_laugman
@neal_laugman 5 жыл бұрын
Talked to Niccolò at Pulsar and he's considering a hide function for the drum/drive mechanism similar to what Slate Digital does with their Virtual Tape Machines plugin. I stated the case for a UI that's better for laptops and he said the will consider it in a future release. So their you go. I did purchase it. I remember seeing one of those waaay back in the 70s but never used it, but I had an Echoplex that I used with my Hammond and other keyboards. Having a ball with this vintage thing. (In loving memory of Pink Floyd's keyboardist Rick Wright - RIP...)
@tatabeat
@tatabeat 5 жыл бұрын
in Reaper we always can choose the "UI" mode if we want to hide the fancy GUI
@DynamicRockers
@DynamicRockers 5 жыл бұрын
Same in Cubase you can use the generic interface with sliders and values for each control
@peterbrandt7911
@peterbrandt7911 5 жыл бұрын
@@DynamicRockers *yuck*, I'd never. In Reaper it looks even more terrible, like a Win95 spreadsheet.
@tatabeat
@tatabeat 5 жыл бұрын
but the sound is the same. :)
@peterbrandt7911
@peterbrandt7911 5 жыл бұрын
@@tatabeat yep, but an old dirty bag would keep you maybe warm as well, but that doesn't mean, that we like to wear such, unless we have to.
@JanSandahl
@JanSandahl 5 жыл бұрын
As one into 3D graphics as well, I had to pause and check, and yes - the rotation of the animation is also motion-blurred when it speeds up. They gave it their all (I'm sure someone responsible at the animation department goes "Someone noticed!!
@sblicious
@sblicious 4 жыл бұрын
Hey Wytse! Great review. Tell me where I can get vocals you used in video? You said it’s from your royalty free pack. Love the vocals!
@sblicious
@sblicious 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for like tho lol
@dykodesigns
@dykodesigns 5 жыл бұрын
The spinning disc looks cool. I wonder if they modelled this thing in 3d and rendered it on 2d surface. What I would like in these skeudomorphic interfaces are spinbox controls under the knobs. So that you can click an up/down arrow and even change the actual nummerical value with the keyboard. Software synthesizers often have the same design ethos as effect plugins, a lot of eye candy but not always easy to use. Personally I think Korg does a reasonble job at finding the balance between pretty looking and easy using. I use quite a few of their iPad apps like iM1 and iWavestation and Gadget. With Gadget the controls can sometimes be a bit finnicky with the touch screen but their wavestation app is really well done when it comes to sound editing, you can kind of manupilate the parameters like fabfilter. Somethimes and old windows 95 interface (like the airwindows plugins) will do just fine, as a structural engineer I often work with a program called "Technosoft Raamwerken" which still looks like a windows 95 program but it works really well and is easy and fast to use. If I look at old school daw's like Cubase on the Atari, the design was very simple but also functionally designed. The technical restrisctions of the monochrome low-res display forced the developers to think about the design in a functional way and not waste the screen real estate with eye candy.
@DJActionVasquez
@DJActionVasquez 5 жыл бұрын
I like it! I like the look, the performance and it's not expensive. I think it's gonna sell good enough
@Sushibeats1337
@Sushibeats1337 5 жыл бұрын
Love your vids! If I may request a video/content... Dither and dither plugins
@CRayBeats
@CRayBeats 5 жыл бұрын
I think you can get the sound you want with just a bit of tweaking the controls. Nice video.
@JimijaymesProductions
@JimijaymesProductions 5 жыл бұрын
I love echoboy but its a bit dark sometimes, all I need is a good DMM, KORG SDD3000 and Echorec plugin, this is a start in one of them!
@Mikahaan
@Mikahaan 5 жыл бұрын
Hi there Wytse @White Sea Studio. You missed two features of this overly skeuomomorphic designed plugin; 1-) An Off mode allowing to use the plug-in as saturation without delay. 2-) Finger modulation of the disk speed (that's why your mouse pointer became active when over the spinning disk).
@Whiteseastudio
@Whiteseastudio 5 жыл бұрын
Really! I could modulate it with my mouse!? 😱
@samiegfunk1
@samiegfunk1 5 жыл бұрын
I think it sounds fantastic. Is there just a tape effect with no delay ?
@b.robertson9042
@b.robertson9042 5 жыл бұрын
It would have been useful to know how it stacks up to other tape delay plugins. Also, the way the tape speed affected frequency on your hardware unit, is that a desirable thing? Because, if not, there is no reason to put it on a plugin, even if you are trying to make a faithful recreation of the old hardware. Anyway, this does sound like it could be useful on more than just a few tracks.
@Mark-James-Thomas
@Mark-James-Thomas 5 жыл бұрын
Both Audiority ECHOES T7E and Overloud Echoson already do plug-in versions of this. Do we need another one?
@g.marion5888
@g.marion5888 5 жыл бұрын
Part of the appeal of a realistic looking interface is it makes the user feel they could operate a real analog version of the effect if they come upon one.
@0421072
@0421072 5 жыл бұрын
I like the Valhalla interface the best out of all the plugins I have. I can get usable sounds quickly. It is also pleasing to the eye.
@realheadphonecandy
@realheadphonecandy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m thinking of getting this one as it’s on sale. I have a million delays including the Audiority but I DO like the Pulsar Mu and Smasher. I’m also about to do a 100 in 100 days effects pedals and plugins challenge for my new channel so could use all the vibey delays available! Any thoughts on this versus the Audiority or Valhalla?
@AboveEmAllProduction
@AboveEmAllProduction 5 жыл бұрын
fabfilter
@jacobsmith1877
@jacobsmith1877 2 жыл бұрын
I think they should add the modern UI as a collapsable top window like they did on the Pulsar Massive. It would be great to have a visualization of the delay timing and filtering behind the dry signal.
@user-ic7cj8lq9z
@user-ic7cj8lq9z 5 жыл бұрын
Effectrode is working on a Binson Echorec inspired delay (not a plugin), they've been at it for a while but I think it's gonna be interesting what kind of design they come up with.
@DynamicRockers
@DynamicRockers 5 жыл бұрын
A colapsed mode for the GUI with only the black plate would be better. Is it better than the Binson emulation by Overloud?
@rogercabo5545
@rogercabo5545 3 жыл бұрын
A nice idea to have a stats about the 3d use case! Another cool idea for a vst Demo, with 3D design, would be to destroy parts of it by time. Pickups fall down, knobs break, starts to steam. But you can repair it by clicking of different parts or knobs and you get working again. None knows when the demo period is over, but anytime it's. This is how you develop a relationship with the device because you kept fixing it. In the end you will buy it! This is how "games to pay for" working as well.
@ekeytenacious8573
@ekeytenacious8573 5 жыл бұрын
Wytse, can't mention this enough, but maybe do some review on the Dutch company Toneboosters(especially their reelbus4 plugin). Simple Gui, low price, high quality.
@YoungStuntYuan
@YoungStuntYuan 5 жыл бұрын
Sound good!
@Arkayem
@Arkayem 5 жыл бұрын
4:27 Isn’t that applicable to your infatuation with designed GUI?
@SakariKaripuro
@SakariKaripuro 5 жыл бұрын
that drive/distortion was pretty cool, at least over youtube.
@thimovijfschaft3271
@thimovijfschaft3271 5 жыл бұрын
What I also think about analog looking interfaces, is that it's great for people who do like analog but can't afford, or take care of it.
@Piotre
@Piotre 5 жыл бұрын
I think you missed important reason to keep simulation plugin like a real thing :) It is about learning curve for people who used actual hardware or own one (home many people has more than 1-3 hw 1176 for instance?). They can just start instantly work with it. But I fully agree with need to innovate not just copy the same thing again and again under different brands. And some of them are trying to do both. Trying to make soft clone of hardware but extending with new function or possibility. Like not fixed freq in soft, more choices, variations or even completely new mode not found in original hardware.
@DanieleGiannattasio
@DanieleGiannattasio 5 жыл бұрын
I like this one!
@lilDaveist
@lilDaveist 5 жыл бұрын
Today I‘ve listened to Tapedesk by Overloud and I.. I was amazed. Was I fooled by EQ and Loudness or was it really round and added those sweet harmonics? Would be awesome if you check it out! Keep up the awesome work!
@I_HOUSE_YOU
@I_HOUSE_YOU 3 жыл бұрын
Where is that acapella from?? Thanks
@akhilchandrashekar1725
@akhilchandrashekar1725 4 жыл бұрын
I think it sounded incredible
@dbhammond
@dbhammond 5 жыл бұрын
In addition to Valhalla Delay, check out Augustus Loop. Tape instead of disk, otherwise it does everything this Echorec sim will do and *much* more. If you know what the delay ratios on the Echorec taps are, it’s pretty easy to set up an “Echorec” preset on it. Only you get a plugin with a lot more capability (looping, long “frippertronic” delay times, digital/tape sim, complete control of filters, saturation, etc). IIRC it’s roughly the same price as this one too.
@midnightrun5
@midnightrun5 3 жыл бұрын
YOU ARE AWESOME!
@raycochrane3971
@raycochrane3971 5 жыл бұрын
I'd like to read/hear your thoughts on the PSP Vintage Warmer 2. I know it does something, and often quite pleasantly, but I don't have good ears and don't "hear" the changes in detail even when I listen.
@anthonylee3311
@anthonylee3311 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks. There's lots of choices now out there for tape delay/echo. PlexiTape by Audiority is my personal fav and I'd love to see you do a snake oil vid for it (it's NOT snake oil by the way!)
@jamesbruno6266
@jamesbruno6266 Жыл бұрын
In the end you don't see what the plugin's look like when you send your track out to be heard. I do use this one and a few of thier others because they sound good, easy to use and the price is right. Flashy interfaces don't impress me as much as good sounding simple to use ones that don't break the bank 👍
@bernhardnizynski4403
@bernhardnizynski4403 3 жыл бұрын
You have it wrong with the Dynacord - the tape goes clockwise - three record heads and two replay heads!
@rui5421
@rui5421 5 жыл бұрын
i agree with your point that there should be options with analog interfaces and a more simplified fab filter like interface, but i think you constantly complain about GUI, without an understanding of why it is important. Its valuable to markteting, its valuable to some people who are used to analog and want it to look like what they're used to. Its a way of transition those people to digital by setting them at ease. Its also about encouraging creativity in some people by the aesthetic and "vibe" rather than cold menus and data. You want to focus on work flow, but most artistic types and really people in general judge with their eyes. If someone made you two sandwiches, both with all the same content, but one was made with detailed consideration for presentation, and the other was just thrown together into a paper bag, how would it make you feel? would you be as enthusiastic about trying the paper bag junk sandwich? Aesthetic does not mean quality by default, but it is valuable when trying to do anything related in sales and trying to catch the eye of consumers.
@TheNightquaker
@TheNightquaker 5 жыл бұрын
At the end of the day, it's a personal aesthetic preference, but at times I think that Wytse just doesn't understand the concept of that. And the concept that people like looking at analog interfaces, be it on the screen or on the hardware. They are pleasant to look at and can even add inspiration for music. And his constant repeats of interface rants in plugin reviews are honestly rather tiring. To the point that I just might watch his other things like console and hardware related stuff, along with general mastering vids and misc reviews, and skip the plugin reviews entirely.
@Projacked1
@Projacked1 5 жыл бұрын
Aesthetics costs performance, always ...and especially intuitive workflow. If you do it long enough, you don't give a shit about aesthetics. This is all short-term marketing, probably because it doesn't sell as much as it looks. It's the same with this plugin, all the aesthectics and supposedly a full emulation....and it's not.
@TheNightquaker
@TheNightquaker 5 жыл бұрын
@@Projacked1 Nope. Aesthetics doesn't always cost performance. That dependency varies on case-by-case basis and is not absolute. And besides, there are plenty of great emulations with analog-looking interfaces.
@rui5421
@rui5421 5 жыл бұрын
@@Projacked1 I think the flaw is the implication that many makers are intentionally trying to cover up flaws in their software by putting a pretty coat on it. I mean if every compressor came with some pull down menus and some flat sliders, how do makers appeal to consumers? how do they get people to try their product? How do they get their funding to make their products better over time? thats the long game. No company comes out with the best product ever, no updates, no v2, best product period first try. They evolve, and to do that as a new developer means getting customers. Satisfying those customers for now with what you can reasonably achieve with your technology and budget, and then building up new ideas and new innovations over time. Its a high bar to set when we say that companies need to come out of the gates with a better product than legacy companies that have history and far more captial from their history of products. Should they have new ideas? absolutely, but should we expect a fabfilter killer to emerge out of nowhere from version 1? I dont think so. To get them there, marketing, aesthetics and system are all valid parts to the ultimate goal.
@Projacked1
@Projacked1 5 жыл бұрын
@@TheNightquaker of course it does, it's software....it's the UI that causes most if not all interferences/ and processing. Even if you don't notice it. Take away the pimpy graphics and the performance doubles or more. I close my eyes when I listen, no need for graphics.
@ltdknwldg
@ltdknwldg 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, and I saw Valhalla Delay mentioned here... simple but great user interface, and I believe, awesome sound! You might like.
@anonagain
@anonagain 5 жыл бұрын
That GUI reminds me of the song Merry Go Round by Wild Man Fischer.
@cottoo1
@cottoo1 5 жыл бұрын
I like using good looking plugins.
@stonecoldstone2993
@stonecoldstone2993 3 жыл бұрын
if you read the manual--you will se that you can simulate slowing down the wheel whith the mouse just like you would do using your finger on the orginal
@alexhormann8931
@alexhormann8931 5 жыл бұрын
Definitely useful plugin. The overdrive sounds very tape like. But .... if they'd force the user to clean the heads and to oil the mechanics, it would be the first and long awaited tamagotchi plugin in vst and au format. Hehe
@sonnybrasco9735
@sonnybrasco9735 4 жыл бұрын
I like the sound of this plugin
@MaartenFranken
@MaartenFranken 5 жыл бұрын
Oh, sweet! Isnt that the delay that was used for When the Levee Breaks? I love those classic gear plugins. If you like this sort of stuff, you should check out AudioThing outer Space (Roland Space Echo) and as I already mentioned Led Zepelin, Boz Digital Labs Plus 10dB Compressor (F760 as was used for the drums on When the Levee Breaks), two of my favorite classic gear plugins. Im gonna check out the demo of this delay, Im getting very curious. ;)
@adaptedvinyl
@adaptedvinyl 5 жыл бұрын
I wonder how long we'll have to wait before there's an emulation of Jon Bonham in plugin form that can listen to your track and improvise a perfect drum groove with fills capturing the man's style. Personally I think it's impossible and also that that won't stop people from marketing products that do attempt this feat.
@Vintageman87
@Vintageman87 4 жыл бұрын
Steinberg Cubase has the collapse Button integrated, it named " Show as generic Paramaters" This works fine with every Plugin. :-) Thx for your Video :-) Greets from Germany
@mudsh4rk
@mudsh4rk 5 жыл бұрын
Nice cover version of Sandstorm at 6:11! Also you should look at ValhallaDelay. I think you'll like it.
@tinbots
@tinbots 5 жыл бұрын
Since 99% of plugin buyers have zero experience with the original hardware the idea that it will "help" the user understand "how or why" to get results is ridiculous. You can be sure that the "original" hardware would look completely different if the manufacturers did not have to worry about technical limitations or manufacturing costs - they would've been much more adventurous with their hardware designs both in "ergonomics" and excessive "bling" to make their product stand out on a shelf next to their competitors. Like the excessive use of chrome and tail fins in 1950s American cars ;-) Computer GUIs have no limits, and frankly, are most useful when they visualize parameters so well that you can achieve desired results even with the audio effect muted. FabFilter and Izotope are two brilliant examples... another is UVI - their Relayer Delay is the most comprehensive I've ever used AND it's GUI is outstanding (well worth a review!).
@Microtonal_Cats
@Microtonal_Cats 5 жыл бұрын
Would be cool if plugin makers had an option in the plugin to go from the skeuomorphic analog metal box skin to a simple 2D skin for people who can hear the difference and don't need the visual hints to tell them what to hear.
@eoinhayes5025
@eoinhayes5025 5 жыл бұрын
I like and use both analog looking plug-ins and the fab filter more 'modern digital' looking plugins. I do agree that sometimes the vintage looking ones can be annoying to turn a knob because you have to go left or right when up or down feels more intuitive on some. The waves API eqs come to mind. I do however think you are missing the point on why people including myself like those vintage style faces. Most of us probably, even though I do run a small professional studio, will never be able to afford loads of Neve, Urei or Abbey Roads gear and this allows people to somewhat buy into the history of music production and feel they can be familiar with the gear without ever owning the physical unit. From experience too, I can say that having used a plugin emulation and then using the real thing, you feel like you have a head start and know what knob is what..
@TheApeMachine
@TheApeMachine 5 жыл бұрын
It's actually kinda true, this whole visual marketing point. The best tape emulation on the market is the AirWindows one, but hardly anybody knows this guy, and I am sure one of the reasons is because he literally has *no* interface, he just uses the default sliders that come from the VST GUI in the SDK. He even has some motto around this, but I can't remember it. Anyway, what I like about this vintage emulation craze in plugins is not so much whether or not they are perfect representations, but that they do have color, and you can use it for that, not like the original unit, but as a new thing altogether. Also, what is nice about plugins is that they work, contrary to a lot of vintage hardware units people have at home or in the studio, which is I am sure the reason you did not compare it to your hardware tape delay :p
@ChessmasterHex
@ChessmasterHex 5 жыл бұрын
It really does sound good and I would love to play with that interface for a bit but it defo looks a bit gimmicky as you mentioned, I spent my money on Echoboy years ago and have no regrets!
@muse-mech-moda
@muse-mech-moda 3 жыл бұрын
Around the 10:50 to 10:55 mark, you mention it's a tape delay. It isn't Echorecs don't respond like tape delays. They don't degrade (as much) as tape delays.
@duboracle
@duboracle 5 жыл бұрын
How to make your own delay with a loop back connection in a vst patchbay or vst rack ? That would be cool but i cant fix this. Just one repeat with a standard delay, than a tape or tube emulation, a EQ and a limiter for safety. Gimmi, gimmi, gimmi dah answer.
@toff1974
@toff1974 5 жыл бұрын
ON the GUI, if you are emulating a peice of hardware, surely if you make the interface different to how the hardware looked, it would be confusing to use and then not 'authentic' to the original hardware. FabFilter doesn't emulate specific hardware so can be experimantal with their interface.. and it works a treat. I dont mind either unless it (as you also say) impacts usability. Great review.
@cadotrecords3468
@cadotrecords3468 4 жыл бұрын
Being a huge Pink Floyd fan I love this plugin. I want it to look like the real thing. It gives me inspiration.
@glyndwr15
@glyndwr15 Жыл бұрын
I have this plug and pair it with Arturia's Farfisa all the time.
@rohitRraina
@rohitRraina 5 жыл бұрын
For $77 i guess this plugin id worth it . .. ❤️
@elwrongo
@elwrongo Жыл бұрын
I think this thing sounds good. There are quite a few tape delay emulaions out there but not many Echorec's and this is a good one. Pulsar have taken the time with the sound as well as the look (which is important too for a vintage gear guy like me). One thing missing is a standalone version for those who just want to plug into it. Hide half GUI is a good idea. You review should also see what the tube drive control is like on a guitar or synth signal. How many parameters are midi controllable (I would assume all but hey).
@davidhine8870
@davidhine8870 5 жыл бұрын
in cubase you can just use the generic interface... -your right that they take up lots of the screen. im running 3 screens and the giant interfaces still bug me.
@glyndwr15
@glyndwr15 Жыл бұрын
I have a few Echorec plugs to compare this to (Audiority, DDMF, Overloud etc), and this one is my favorite out of all of them. Honestly, UI preferences aside, it just sounds better. Pulsar's other plugs are fantastic sounding as well, imo.
@adaptedvinyl
@adaptedvinyl 5 жыл бұрын
Hi White Sea. The clash of values here on the comments is fascinating. I totally get why you like tools that are honest and can't resist mocking the pictorial interfaces like this plugin. Yet so many in the comments find it very appealing. I'd really enjoy hearing your responses to the various types of comments people make in support of skeumorphism. If you survey it I think there's only a few different angles people are commenting from. It'll keep it interesting if you can notice more details about your reaction to that thinking for us to hear about. For me I'm starting to realise that people really do think in very different manners to each other. There's always a diversity of viewpoints. Someone like me just can't help rolling my eyes when people are fascinated with celebrities but I accept that for a lot people they prefer fake but entertaining stuff over more authentic stuff that requires greater engagement to provide the same level of overall stimulation. It's the same with these plugins.
@hypertechfusion
@hypertechfusion 5 жыл бұрын
Hey, why don't you check out the Arousor by Empirical Labs. Considering they make the distressor and assuming that you've used one before it'd be nice to hear your opinion on it. I for one just got it and think it sounds AMAZING and for once I understand what you mean when you say something gives the sound more depth! Unlike a lot of compressor plugins you can clearly tell that it has its own vibe and sound and the way you can smash a signal with it is really cool and gives some pretty wicked results!
@kaitsu9608
@kaitsu9608 5 жыл бұрын
Hi! Curious if you could snakeoil soundtoys primaltap! Its pretty unique delay. Its modeled after old digital delay. Since your decapitator review had such controversial response, it would be cool continuum on that sense. And i figured you still might have some demo time. And it has analog interface, but its neat!
@daddykeagy
@daddykeagy 5 жыл бұрын
I'm dying to know how you play music through your studio monitors and we don't hear it through your voice mic???
@RealHomeRecording2
@RealHomeRecording2 4 жыл бұрын
Voice audio gets recorded to a separate recorder. Screen capture software only records the computer audio. Switch back and forth between audio tracks during video editing.
@sonidojamon
@sonidojamon 2 жыл бұрын
It's as simple as putting an alternative and easy to use GUI with simple controls (DMG do this very well) on every plugin yo make. Sounds pretty cool!! Do you remember if it was CPU hungry?
@DavidL1980
@DavidL1980 5 жыл бұрын
I think Cubase has an option to view a simplified UI for vsts with just knobs/sliders.
@rogerfurer2273
@rogerfurer2273 5 жыл бұрын
So it needs disc diameter and tape head spacing controls. Maybe next version.
@tmengucor
@tmengucor 5 жыл бұрын
This plugin interface just looks and reacts great. There is nothing wrong in using a realistic GUI, wearing cool clothes or working in a clean studio. Oops..
@NoNameLeft1500
@NoNameLeft1500 5 жыл бұрын
there are two sides of guis... the thing with modern digital GUIs are they need to be designed very well in terms of functionality and information and useability and useage (workflow etc) and also aesthetics (they are often more importend then someone might think... also because aesthetics can also be kind of a guide like colorcoding differend aspects and so on) ... if the digital GUI is well designed... then they are a joy to use... however there are also some plugins.. were the design isn't very well done... and the useability becomes a struggle... "analog" guis on the otherhand they mught not give the functionality and informative and fast was of use like a well designed modern gui .. but are often more safe not to create a complete mess... so still beeing more or less intuitive to use... and I can imagine to develop and design a good modern GUI .. can be harder then design an analog GUI... the analog GUI might be more work in terms of art.. to make it nice... but in terms of thinking and use and so on... a modern GUI can be quite hard to do it right I can imagine... because it almost goes into some kind of psychological behavior analysis or so.. with what most of our brains can work best and so on...
@nicholasparis5281
@nicholasparis5281 5 жыл бұрын
"If it's a faithful reproduction, then it should also breakdown a lot" lol... I can see Steve Martin as the salesman for the easy to break plugin lol.... But personally I think the echoes sound Interstellar Overdriven... very nice!
@Elia-xp4uu
@Elia-xp4uu 5 жыл бұрын
they wouldn't even have to skin a "vanilla" ui, they can define knobs, labels, fader etc. as such and each daw will visually interpret this on their own. Airwindows does this, its not a lot of work and in some daws this makes automating values easier
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