Who Are THE DEEP ONES & What Do They Want? - Elder Scrolls Detective

[@SophieCucinotta]

bethesda employee: haha i'm gonna make a fun quest based on my favorite book shadow over innsmouth camelworks: DAEDRIC PRINCE VAMPIRE SLOADS CONDUCTING HUMAN EXPERIMENTS

[@theprogramshow8816]

I was thinking 'the punished'

[@CircaSriYak]

THEY'RE PUTTING CHEMICALS IN THE WATER THAT ARE TURNING THE FRIGGIN SCAMPS GAY

[@LoveLee_Dreamer]

@@CircaSriYak You made me chortle

[@jojolafrite90]

Ha ha ha!

[@viveka2994]

It Just Works

[@ragecageofsneezingdragon4916]

"If the deep ones are harvesting souls for Molag Bal, it makes sense in this sentence: *ad pops up* JACK'S BREAKFAST POCKET FOR TWO DOLLARS EACH Holy shit Jack in the Box is sacrificing souls to Molag Bal

[@Deykhan]

I had "Nation wide is on your side!" I am not sure which is worse....

[@samuelharverson2323]

ragecage of Sneezing Dragon y

[@dividedreality9708]

Applebee's being shady

[@pretzelbomb6105]

Dear God, it all makes sense now...

[@PennyDreadful1]

I didn't even get to "sentence" I just got "...this" and then some ad about HiFi speakers.

[@BigPanda096]

The seamless transition between Fudgemuppet and Camelworks is just way too scary. I was watching Camel and ended up in Fudgemuppet for like 4 episodes and didn't really realize I wasn't watching Camel as I was cooking and just listening. I love both of you content creators, keep it up!

[@thenormalformalandhormonal8531]

Honestly, their voices are so similar, it's scary

[@kevinpoynter6697]

Let's also point out that dagon is the name of an angel that used to be worshipping in ancient Syria And the name molag bal is extremely reminiscent of baal who was also an evil angel that was once worshiped in ancient Israel Of malachath that seems similar to moloch who is also a fallen angel that was once worshiped Bethesda itself is also a biblical name, tbh the developers of the elder scrolls might just be very fond of devils, might even be worshippers of devils And devil is a fallen angel for those that don't know There was real devil worship back then, and there's real devil worship nowadays, but I hope that shows you the opposite side of things. There is one true God, and to us Christians he came in the form of man as Jesus Christ who reconciled the world to himself as a willing sacrifice for the world

[@voiceinyourhead8284]

@@kevinpoynter6697 You do know that the devils are the main villains of the games, right?

[@Malkontent1003]

@@kevinpoynter6697 Bruv, don't even try to claim that Christianity had ANYTHING to do with what just came out of your mouth, I'd rather be shot than be associated with that level of cringe.

[@derekk2666]

@@kevinpoynter6697 the daedra are portrayed as villains dumbass

[@riftdancer1349]

I always loved the one word questions in oblivion. My favorite thing to do was to read them like I was yelling at the person in a confused tone. "I'd stay back from that door if I were you. Nothing that's gone in has come out right." "STRANGE DOOR?!"

[@theewanger3786]

Rift Dancer RUMORS!?

[@bigfat4172]

Rift Dancer IMPERIAL CITY?!

[@dasjugsboi]

I will never look at Oblivion the same way again...

[@demonicpestcontrolgaming3462]

*CLOUD DISTRICT* !? Whom the fuck?!!!

[@yukari_katsuragi]

Demonic pest control gaming You don't get to the Cloud District often, do you? Oh, what am I saying. Of course you don't.

[@giovanni2101]

"The gathering... Sounds magic" Ayyyyyye i see what you did there

[@fantasyconnect]

ethan alan lol yeah

[@grandexalt777]

Glad I'm not the only one who caught that.

[@grandexalt777]

I play the KUNAI WITH CHAIN!

[@Glace1221]

ethan alan , "This isn't just any old horse, neigh."

[@grandexalt777]

Well I sacrifice my Battle Ox, and 5 dollars, to summon my Blue Eyes Bitch-Nerd Dragon!

[@zorrodahousecat9104]

Here is a mind bender, Hackdirt is based on Innsmouth from Lovecraft, Innsmouth in turn was based on Newburyport, Massachusetts, wich in turn is north of Boston near, drummroll please, Saugus Ironworks, now we go to the fallout universe and what is near Saugus, yep, Dunwich borers, where you can hear the same sound in the bottom of the mine, and a similar story of cultists worshipping and changing into ghouls. Cosmic Horror at ist finest, sinister entities influencing men from beyond our realm and even other realities.

[@project_scorpio3560]

And since it is theorized that fallout and elder scrolls share a universe, this could just be more evidence for that.

[@kinalbrien6357]

had to think of shadow over innsmouth directly and how its close to Boston, really fun easter egg

[@rakkatytam]

@@project_scorpio3560 Such a lame and hacky theory. Seems like something an edgy teen who writes fan fiction would come up with.

[@uiraideszen3223]

@@rakkatytam,it seems you disregard theories

[@rakkatytam]

@@uiraideszen3223 it seems you jump to conclusions based on little evidence.

[@shaurmiath6719]

My favorite bit in this one is that you made sure Dar-Ma was safe before finishing up your investigation. Hero first, investigator second. But still the best investigator in the business.

[@OriGuyOriginal]

I don't mind ads, I don't mind buffer. But when my ads buffer, I seriously suffer.

[@chrisrinehart4008]

DarkMarauder11 this spoke to me just now

[@presidentforlife1732]

When you rhyme buffer with buffer, i seriously suffer :DDDDDDDDDDDDD

[@martianmanfrommars8428]

Exactly. Molag Bal created those adds to make you suffer.

[@MickeyD2012]

The voice of a generation, right there.

[@Death1rock1334]

ad block is just another helper.

[@alexmir8942]

36:52 when there's literally deadra and molten metal ravaging your town but, you gotta do your chores first.

[@evasive4345]

That had me chuckling how she didn’t looked fazed

[@arbiterofthelegion4448]

I would have said screw you i want to live !? Just as a pun

[@karawithgun8148]

Don't wanna get grounded :( gotta do them chores.

[@KyleJordanGaming]

#SigmaGrindset

[@Russell-sb6kj]

It just works

[@AtlasBBG]

In time, the citizens of hackdirt would commit crimes against skyrim and her people.

[@lsswappedcessna]

Wonder what they would say in their defense?

[@ThatWunDolphin]

@@lsswappedcessna I guess they would rather die than go to prison.

[@mikal9904]

Ynnel?! LEEEEENNYY BOYY

[@sauercrowder]

If you dig out the rocks in that collapsed ceiling under hackdirt, you will emerge from the darkness to find a man in a horse-drawn cart saying "hey you, you're finally awake"

[@thomaspereira1545]

@@sauercrowder or probably end up in Blackreach

[@kameronsheppard1436]

Hackdirt has a well. So as far as the sload theory go, there is water under the town

[@ryguy1483]

Kameron Sheppard Still extremely unlikely based on the evidence in the video

[@wmoates6029]

Sload poop in the well? Ew.

[@felixhofinger5974]

also the noise in the cavern from big things who breathe like giants sloads...

[@flunkiebubs2002]

I read "sload" as "sloppy toad"

[@pillgrimm]

There is water under the ocean.

[@MidoriOfTheShuinsen]

A List of the Elvish Races of Nirn: - Dwemer, the Deep Elves. - Ayleid, the Heartland Elves. - Falmer, the Snow Elves. - Maomer, the Sea-Elves. - Altmer, the High Elves. - Aldmer, the First Elves. - Chimer, the Changed Elves. - Orsimer, the Beast-Elves. - Bosmer, the Wood Elves. - Dunmer, the Cursed Elves.

[@genericalfishtyrant8493]

I thought the Chimer were the snow elves and the Falmer are the changed elves.

[@realityrabbid3053]

Stefanos Dimop they aren’t true elves, they aren’t descended from the aldmer, but rather came form a different kalpa cycle.

[@derrickcarpenter8297]

Chimer are the uncursed dark elves. Next time you play skyrim, go talk to the dark elf Karliah. She doesn't have ashy colored skin and doesn't have red eyes. But in the game files, her race is dark elf.

[@nickcrane8329]

@@genericalfishtyrant8493 Nope Chimer were cursed and changed to Dunmer

[@genericalfishtyrant8493]

@@nickcrane8329 Thanks, I think I remember one of the in-game books mentioning that now. I'm always messing up my knife ear lore. I can never trust one to give me the story straight, you know the saying. Around elves, watch yourselves!!

[@GonsalvoDeCordova]

This is why people like The Elder Scrolls series. Just think of the effort put into doing all of this. That is love/obsession - in a good way.

[@Rebelzize]

Damn, this video is going to make sure I will ignore allot of work I should be doing :p

[@Lothar445]

Haha, good luck man!

[@aero5560]

Rebelzize Please for the love of the Nine, add in more to The Deep Ones! keep up the good work with SkyBlivion :)

[@carniiliar590]

Bethesda is going to have to hire and honor you guys once your all up and ready, I believe in you ☺😀

[@jacobdelafuccboi4690]

keep up the work on skybliv buddy!

[@fakedust3150]

Rebelzize Keep on working!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@uFreakMeowt]

There's also a Molag Bal shrine that is southeast of Hackdirt in Oblivion. I think Camel has got this in the bag.

[@Delete240]

I don’t think that there’s any correlation there. Based on the evidence, and the inspiration for the quest, they’re likely Mehrunes Dagon worshippers.

[@graylyhen9490]

@@Delete240 nuh uh

[@Delete240]

@@graylyhen9490 yuh huh. Shadow over Hackdirt is based on Shadow over Innsmouth. The Deep Ones are, funnily enough, based on the Deep Ones, who in Lovercraft’s works, worship a God called… Drumroll please! DAGON. The Oblivion Deep Ones speak in Daedric Runes, and who is the main antagonist of Oblivion, who also happens to be a Daedric Prince? That’s right! Mehrunes DAGON.

[@TheBasedTyrant]

@@Delete240 Did you literally not watch the part where Etira's Disposition with you is maxed out if you are a vampire?? That is practically definitive proof that the deep ones are vampires, who were created by Molag Bal. I was just going to comment that I'm surprised that there is evidence that leaves no room for doubt when I saw your comment, somehow still doubting.

[@rauls.g.2518]

@@Delete240 to be fair their bible is an extract of a Sload book so that's also a factor

[@Nexus_KT]

"Your hero? Who are you Kvatch?" Omg. It was such a cheesy joke but it was so funny at the same time. 😂

[@secredeath]

Katie your look so cute i wanna pinch your chubby cheeks

[@Jspotstudieos]

nice hat cutie

[@mishasubin]

Guys wtf

[@doctor_owl]

We got some thirsty creeps in the comment section

[@evasive4345]

doctorowl yeah wtf? I was expecting replies to be reactions to the same part

[@spartandelta2756]

Going to Hackdirt was terrifying for me the first time I went to find Dar-Ma. Luckily, I was playing as a stealth build (as I often do) and managed to avoid being surprise attacked for the most part... The place was still scary, but has since become one of my favorite lore locations in Oblivion.

[@MaryjaneDaniel]

"The Gathering? Sounds Magic." Never before have I heard a pun so bad that it actually physically hurt me lol

[@Cristoferurlaub]

Interesting detail: In The Shadow Over Innsmouth, it is HEAVILY implied that the Deep Ones mate with the humans in Innsmouth, which is why many residents carry their traits. The "....or worse" in this game is probably implying that the sacrifices are not only killed, but also raped. It makes sense theyd gloss over this because thats a bit dark for this game, but we do know that Molag Bal is the Prince of Rape and it would explain the physical characteristics of the residents. It looked like those bones were in the cages in the caverns. Why would they throw corpses in cages? They wouldnt, but they would throw them in the cages if they were still alive, but being kept alive because they were pregnant.

[@Seventh_Bean]

That is fucked up, my man. Kudos. I'd expect that from Interplay/Obsidian, but not Bethesda.

[@Camelworks]

I thought this video was going to be 15 minutes long originally. Hahahahaha. Anyway, I've added some time stamps below, to help you navigate the video, if you so wish! Enjoy :) Time stamps: 00:43 - Pretext 11:35 - Investigation 14:57 - Do The Deep Ones actually exist? 17:03 - Shadow Over Innsmouth / Hackdirt Easter Egg explained 18:43 - Bible Of The Deep ones / N'Gasta! Kvata! Kvakis! explained 23:01 - Dwemer theory 25:23 - Sload theory 30:01 - Mehrunes Dagon theory 31:16 - Molag Bal theory 38:50 - Conclusion 39:34 - Outro

[@KoboldPaladin]

Camelworks maybe the dwemer since it tranlated to deep elves and the sacrifices could be to fill soul gems the noise could be a centurion

[@the1ghrol]

Camelworks I can't remember the name of the location off the top of my head but there is a cave somewhere north of Solitude. It's filled with nothing but spriggons. It has a small pond in it and also a skeleton half buried in that pond. It could be something?

[@belladonnalavender5493]

Your theory about Molag Bal checks out in terms of sload as well. Mannimarco himself was a highly powerful necromancer in service to Molag Bal during ESO, and as you said, sload are necromancers. Molag Bal's dominion is very heavily rooted in Necromancy as well, the domination of bodies and souls. Also, Septimus Signus of Skyrim, the mage in service to Haermaeus Mora, the Daedric prince of knowledge and secrets, (as well as the most lovecraftian of daedric lords) briefly mentions the Deep Ones. "The ice entombs the heart. The bane of Kagrenac and Dagoth Ur. To harness it is to know. The fundaments. The Dwemer lockbox hides it from me. The Elder Scroll gives insight deeper than the deep ones, though. To bring about the opening." Also, I found this while looking through his dialogue: "The Daedric prince of the unknown. Hermaeus Mora. I thought there were no secrets left to know. Until I first spoke to him. He asks a price -- to work his will. A few murders, some dissent spread, a plague or two. For the secrets I can endure. In time, he brought me here. To the box. But he won't reveal how to open it. Maddening." "The sealing structure interlocks in the tiniest fractals. Dwemer blood can loose the hooks, but none alive remain to bear it. A panoply of their brethren could gather to form a facsimile. A trick. Something they didn't anticipate, no, not even them. The blood of Altmer, Bosmer, Dunmer, Falmer, and Orsimer. The elves still living provide the key. Bear you hence this extractor. It will drink the fresh blood of elves." The more I read about that daedric prince though, the more likely it seems to be his work. "They attempted to learn the secrets contained within, but instead their city was swallowed by the earth. Following the gradual absorption of Ayleids into Bosmer society, the Bosmer descendants of the lost city attempted to rebuild." Interesting to note, the Ayleids are everywhere in Cyrodill, and Hackdirt is very close to an Ayelied ruin filled with undead. Though the city that was swallowed up was supposed to be along the strid river along the border of Valenwood. "Mora had the Champion collect souls from the ten main races of Tamriel, which were needed by his followers to perform a divination." So here we have evidence of Mora using blood and souls, but not bodies. And Daedra do share some servants among each other, so it is not impossible that the two lords have minions that serve them both in that area. As for Vampires, some bloodlines hate Molag Bal, and it is possible that these are vampires who were twisted by Hemaeus Mora after being embraced by an ancient bloodline. en.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Hermaeus_Mora en.uesp.net/wiki/Skyrim:Septimus_Signus

[@kingcyrus1221]

Camelworks i enjoy this video

[@shiron222]

DIS WAS SO DEP AND MEANING! Such spoop! Many scare!

[@sauercrowder]

The references to "The Gathering" lead me to one undeniable hint that can't be ignored: the townspeople are juggalos, and the deep ones are insane clown posse

[@theharbingerofconflation]

Fucking magnets, how do they work?

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

They do sound a bit Twiztid if you listen closely to the dialogue.

[@Malkontent1003]

HAH, nice.

[@slimdangerous1928]

The khajiit sell skooma, these guys sell faygo.

[@AliasEliahus]

Kind of surprised no one's mentioned the possibility of the deep ones being lurkers from hermeus mora's realm of oblivion. Given everything there is designed off of lovecraft and the lurkers off the deep ones of that mythos. Still there's alot of good evidence put into that molag bal theory, gotta appreciate that. i think though, that much like fallout bethesda hints at a much deeper much darker side of their worlds that even the greater powers of those worlds are unaware of.

[@OrangeUtan1]

I'm pretty sure the Lurkers were only invented for the Draginborn dlc but I might be wrong.

[@Bauglir100]

@@OrangeUtan1 They can easily retcon stuff. Like Peter Parker being in Iron Man 2, or the 501st Legion being the stormtroopers that attacked the Tantive IV in A New Hope.

[@Bauglir100]

@Punk Moon Which is why I believe there might be Lovecraftian deities in The Elder Scrolls, co-existing with the Aedra and Daedra. No, not Lovecraft-inspired deities like Hermaeus Mora. _Actual_ deities from the works of H.P. Lovecraft. The Elder Gods are mentioned by NPCs in The Elder Scrolls: Arena, and there's a book in Daggerfall that briefly references the Old Ones. And of course, the Deep Ones are a race of creatures in the Cthulhu Mythos and are mentioned in Oblivion.

[@Coolguy98765]

That's what I ascribe to. I think this is hinting at the actual Lovecraftian deities being in the Elder Scrolls universe.

[@callumkristofer7793]

There are vampires in a dungeon very close to hackdirt, you could even lead the residents there, and they would encounter and fight the vampires, while you fight both, the fighting between the two does poke a hole in that it's those vampires, but it could be that, neither side recognizes them.

[@jasonfenderson5372]

In regards to the Sload as Deep Ones: Underground cave systems in our world are frequently filled with water and not uncommonly connected to the ocean; no reason to believe the same can't be said of Tamriel. Another possibility is the Falmer; they may have found their way south through massive underground tunnel systems and made contact with surface dwellers, demanding blood and perhaps slaves in exchange for whatever minerals and treasures they come across underground. Not their standard M.O., of course, but still possible. All that said, I think your Molag Bal theory holds a lot of water. Not bad at all.

[@sophiaisbased9621]

It's probably not the Falmer because they are usually found in areas formerly inhabited by the Dwemer.

[@georgepeters8300]

I don't think it is falmer, as the falmer are former snow elves, who were hunted by nords, and the majority of snow elves went with the dwemer.

[@somethingclever1718]

George Peters and were turned into slaves, forever transformed, etc. However it is stated in several notes and books in Skyrim that the calmer seem to be getting more and more intelligent, and are coming out of the caves, robbing caravans perhaps there was a sect that was able to reestablish intelligence earlier on?

[@sophiaisbased9621]

That doesn't really makes sense because Chorrol and Hackdirt were Ayleid territory and it would make more sense for the Falmer to establish themselves around Bruma or in the Jerall-Mountains because they are way closer to Skyrim.

[@somethingclever1718]

Lamb Sauceror fair enough, still the dwemer aren't best known for playing nice with others and would totally go behind the Ayleids backs

[@rcxdlemon]

The perfect elder scrolls. (To me) Looks like skyrim, has interesting quests like oblivion, and had the skills, spells, and weapons like morrowind.

[@zilvoxidgod]

What, you don't want the expansive world of daggerfall

[@PalletEater214]

@@zilvoxidgod Would be amazing if Bethesda could make the whole of Tamriel along side multiple daedric dimensions with various quests in multiple Provence’s and incorporate the specific lore of those settings (like you go to Skyrim and can gain lycanthropy or go to parts of high rock and maybe become a wear boar) but I doubt that will happen. I’m The closest we got is ESO which I do think is a good game but has trouble keeping me interested. If they could achieve that it would be amazing though and then maybe the next game could take place in akavir. (They should also at least switch to unreal engine 4 but they won’t sadly)

[@swaggynator3879]

@@PalletEater214 damn son. Please go to Bethesda and work there. Sounds sexy

[@technounionrepresentative4274]

imagine if bethesda continued with what they started in the dragon born DLC and continued to make expansions of skyrim where you could visit other lands outside of skyrim, like high rock or black marsh

[@Madchris8828]

Yes this would be fantastic. The combat of skyrim was great too.

[@shortstackosith]

first time watcher here. i love the narrative you add. if you played a game from start to finish and narrate it like this. i would watch every episode. wait. do you do that? ill have to look at the rest of your vids.

[@joethomas4220]

He has said before that he doesn't like let's plays

[@NwahWAttitude]

@Punk Moon Are you familiar with Oxhorn? You're kinda describing his content, although he focuses on Fallout.

[@mergettheborgerhrunter3386]

Fudge muppet does that very similar channel very good content

[@nullstate00]

Given how old this vid is this comment probably won't get noticed, but but here's a few points to consider anyway. 1. The sound coming from the caves. If that's a Deep One then they are BIG. Doesn't sound like vampires or sloads to me. 2. The "or worse" comment could refer to torture. Where "blood" would just be a straight sacrifice. 3. There's nothing preventing the Deep Ones from being a type of here-fore unseen creature. (Okay they're still unseen, but that's not the point.) 4. The bones found in the caves may not be from sacrifices. It could be previous "brethren." If they don't come out of the caves after changing the that's where they will eventually die. 5. Given the setting I think that the initial interference (88 years ago) was likely Mehrunes Dagon. That's to good a reference to pass up on. Also remember that his spheres of influence include change and ambition. Ambition fits the situation in Hackdirt both 88 years ago and presently, and villagers affected change. 6. A random villager suddenly learning to read Deadric is pretty unbelievable. Etira is likely had instruction or perhaps misdirection. Which leads to my next point. 7. If deadra are involved (likely), it doesn't mean that the one messing with Hackdirt now is the same one from 88 years ago. With the info you gave, I'd agree that he's a likely candidate for the current trouble there. So my personal theory is that 88 years ago the miners found something that either had a connection to Mehrunes Dagon or that one of his agents took advantage of. Some time before rescuing Dar-Ma, Etira came in contact with either a deadra or more likely a vampire that convinced her to mislead the villagers about the contents of their bible, so that they would unknowing serve Molag Bal.

[@Gripen1974]

Mehrunes Dagon would fit the Easter egg angle for the ancient god in Shadows over Innsmouth was Dagon and the deep ones was his followers.

[@callumkristofer7793]

But you fail to mention that there are vampires nearby hackdirt, just like camel, but there actually is a vampire dungeon.

[@PromethiaSHADOW]

See if it was a Daedra Prince involved with Hector I don't think it would be molag bal or mehrunes dagone cuz they would have just outright changed the whole town I think if it had to be a Daedra it would be clavicus vile simply because they are citizens of Hackdirt make a deal with clavicus in the form of a sacrifice and the results of their deal is they get the town to be prosperous but the Unseen result of the deal is that they all get transformed into the deep ones or brethren. They could also be hermaeus Mora giving them forbidden knowledge which eventually transforms them into lurkers

[@swaggynator3879]

BUT considering "The shadow over Innsmouth" the brethren don't change... they are crossbreeding results from... well breeding with the deep ones. They genetically change to become the deep ones. And Molag Bal is the Prince of rape. Overall it's just a beautiful story about fucked up things put into a beautiful game with fucked up things

[@benjaminscott9162]

This is probably the first Creepypasta in The Elder Scrolls Games. The Sound that The Deep Ones made is one of the most scariest things I've ever heard. If you don't feel one out of these three things then it's mean that you just don't scare easily: like your heart just skipped a beat, feeling a slight chill going down your spine, or you feel like that you just want to forget about what you heard.

[@dacenmarus1618]

Fourth option: ATTACK!

[@strider3322]

Personally, i prefer to imagine the deep ones as more eldritch, lovecraftian entities. It takes the mystery and terror out of their existence if you can easily classify then or determine what they are so easily, which is why they aren't even properly known even in Lovecrafts mythos

[@aco9880]

@Punk Moon not every god appears as a person, some of them (Hermaneus Mora, or Nocturnal for example) appear as floating energies, with Hermaneus definetely looking lovecraftian, as a black bloating horror with eyes and tentacles emerging from the blackness

[@soleo2783]

@Punk Moon Not really lovecraftian if we can understand what they want and why, all the "gods" from elder scrolls have clear intentions and desires

[@swaggynator3879]

@@aco9880 well he is based upon Azathoth " the atomic chaos"/ "the blind fool's god" and he is the daedric prince of knowledge which is another nod to Lovecraft. Plus the fact that the Oghma Infinium is bound in human(-oid) leathe, Septimus Signus is crazy and he just stops existing after reading the oghma infinium is a direct reference to the Necronomicon and it's ability to completely eradicate people. There are multiple stories about Abdul Alhazreds death: one says he got eaten by an invisible monster on the streets of (Arabia I think) and another one (the most important for this case) says that he read a book, started lifting off the ground and just... vanished. Like Septimus

[@kevinpoynter6697]

Let's also point out that dagon is the name of an angel that used to be worshipping in ancient Syria And the name molag bal is extremely reminiscent of baal who was also an evil angel that was once worshiped in ancient Israel Of malachath that seems similar to moloch who is also a fallen angel that was once worshiped Bethesda itself is also a biblical name, tbh the developers of the elder scrolls might just be very fond of devils, might even be worshippers of devils And devil is a fallen angel for those that don't know There was real devil worship back then, and there's real devil worship nowadays, but I hope that shows you the opposite side of things. There is one true God, and to us Christians he came in the form of man as Jesus Christ who reconciled the world to himself as a willing sacrifice for the world

[@kevinpoynter6697]

Eldritch and lovecraft didn't make them. They reinvented them to sell them to people like you

[@zoetheducat8972]

So when this game came out I was a smol child and I did this quest When the "Deep one" noise triggered I was scared out of my mind because I thought there was going to be some huge boss battle

[@damjanp7920]

smol

[@hannah.r6613]

smol

[@rivetingeel2389]

smol

[@gunner1660]

Smol

[@evasive4345]

Zoe The Ducat smol

[@Benji-ml7je]

I think they are lurkers . Here me out , lurkers have fish like features , like that of the brethren . they are also daedra which would explain the book . They also roar in a similar way to what is heard in the caves . not only this but there is likely water under the town as there is a well in the town . And like other daedra they could like the suffering of mortals which is why they demand blood . The reason the shop owner could like you as a vampire , may be that like the brethren , you dislike the sunlight and demand blood . Thanks for reading this far , feel free to leave your opinions .

[@TheStatisfiedOne]

Benjamin Henshaw if its based on the book of shadow over innsmouth, then they definitly are lurkers or fish like lovecraftian creatures

[@KyleJordanGaming]

Not bad. Certainly plausible. Whether or not they’re directly connected to Hackdirt, the Lurkers- and pretty much everything related to Hermaeus Mora- are undoubtedly inspired by Lovecraft, what with all the ancient forbidden knowledge that drives people crazy, freaky fish-men-demon monsters, things with way, way too many tentacles... *Shudder*... Nah, man... no tentacles... I’m not into that... :/

[@Your-Least-Favorite-Stranger]

@@KyleJordanGaming _Gib moar tentacles_

[@XRemARx]

Molag Bal also likes vampires though. Super likely its that lol

[@nigeltheipodmaster]

I remember this quest, Just monging out not really paying attention to anything not even to the quest it's self just wandering in the cave and I suddenly hear that growl scared the absolute piss out me.

[@brakkendracula]

Bleak Schrödinger what game is this?

[@nigeltheipodmaster]

Elders Scrolls Oblivion for the X box 360 and PC. Pretty good game despite its age.

[@chapodagoat7929]

Bleak Schrödinger wow,why are the graphics on par with elder scrolls Skyrim for ps4

[@fuzzydunlop7928]

Because mods. Though I wouldn't call it "on par" exactly. Skyrim was more stylized in its character design, while they really tried to follow a semi-realistic tone (which kinda failed due to technological limitations of the time, imo. It looks pretty cartoony regardless). The gentleman in the video likely downloaded a texture pack that might make the faces less generic-looking, as that was a real problem for the game. It might have been part of a general "Oblivion re-done" type of mod which changed more than just character designs but idk. I'm not too well-versed on Oblivion mods. I was a console peasant during its heyday.

[@aean]

4:18 "This isn't just any old horse, neigh. This is Blossom."

[@blazedgamingkr]

i love how Camels videos are like hes reading a book to you. hes so detailed in the descriptions, that you dont even have to see the video to "see" what on screen.

[@toakovika]

I’ve played some of these and used them to fall asleep they’re so good!

[@AsymmetricalCrimes]

Yeah I feel asleep listening to this video while staying at your mom's house.

[@thesmolboi8104]

I'm a big fan, Camel. keep up the good work

[@JesusChristDenton_7]

Jesus Christ Fancy meeting you here.

[@MalaKrekar]

Jesus Christ are you coming back?

[@theemeraldminstrel631]

Jesus Christ I knew you loved the The Elder Scrolls Detective, maybe tryin convince Camel to do em' more often, eh?

[@nicksoares4194]

Jesus Christ if you are jesus why you keep watching this videos? you already know everything

[@koffieverslaafde627]

Jesus Christ is heaven a Nice place or should I go to hell?

[@colecossingham2192]

"My hero!" "What are you Kvatch?" Hahahahahahahahahahaha

[@BrightonCyclist]

Watched this recently and was playing Skyrim today. Septimus Signus makes an interesting comment about the deep ones in his rambling - not sure what to make of it. He says "The Elder Scroll gives insight deeper than the deep ones".

[@evasive4345]

He more than likely is just referring to the dwemer as he is obsessed with them and as stated dwemer also were known as deep ones although did not have a connection with this town

[@pickledpeckers7789]

@@evasive4345 I know I’m extremely late but is it a possibility that the deep ones are dwemer that didn’t disappear and those monster sounds are actually machinery?

[@rumor-936]

@@pickledpeckers7789 What if they're just Seekers or Lurkers or some variation of them? One of Hermaues Mora's monsters?

[@nerak3162]

@@pickledpeckers7789even later but there’s a house on Solstheim where you can find the journal and body of a nord . His house was built on dwemer machinery and he went mad because of strange sounds.

[@rubenlarochelle1881]

6:36 Did she... just walked into the sign, smashed her head and continue walking as if nothing happened? Wow, that's a strong middle school pre-teen mood...

[@ProfessorVuubik]

Fun fact: The events of ESO were actually hinted in TES IV in the background in Necromancer dungeons as there were on occasion- actual dedicated shrines to Molag bal- Hinting Mannimarco’s association with the prince Now as for the explanation of the Sload text behind Daedric- there IS a reason- Sload- namely N’gasta whom in Redguard had a soul net- which caught him souls he traded off to Daedric princes- one being Clavicus Vile- who is into soul trading- evident by his little fiasco with umbra in that side-story- IS ALSO THE SECONDARY PATRON OF THE HIDDEN SINGULAR CYRODILLIC VAMPIRE CLAN MENTIONED IN IMMORTAL BLOOD AND THE VILE LAIR DLC AND IT JUST SO HAPPENS THAT A MERE WALK AWAY FROM HACKDIRT IS A VAMPIRE INFESTED FORT- (and the very first place I ever encountered them in game inTESIV back in the day) And I might add- if the bible if the deep ones IS a NG’HASTA TEXT then they actually most likely have the provided information on the trade of -yup Mortal souls! Whether or not this involves the hidden Cyrodillic vampire clan and it’s dual service to Molag Bal and Clavicus is debatable, but you’ve definitely helped crack the code here- the only question remaining being a check through ESO and prior TES instalments to see if there are any Daedra that relate to whatever is in the deeper caverns- unless- taking a note from D&d- something Bethesda does in TES under the radar quite is not performing a transposition process in the vein of Outsiders in 2e Ravenloft with the Brethren. Additionally check the sound file names and check out the uncut and restored content mods for TES IV loaded into the CS Kit to see if any files brought to light provide any further clues on this mystery- Hackdirt’s collective plan may be to create a soul net, restore ties with the incredibly top secret cyrodillic vampire clan, and release/offer up the appropriate persons to transposition with whatever Daedra are behind the cave in. If you consider the veil of the realms weakening due to the events of the Oblivion crisis to boot- it’s highly possible that this entire event is actually part of a long term plan which might actually be on Molag Bal’s part the same trick Dagon and Sheogorath’s attempts to reach Mundus- a hidden Hackdirt in- so to speak- Certainly explains why the themes ring true with how things went down with the Volkair- this plan may have succeeded and allowed him further influence or something-

[@TheXell]

Guys. What if Sload vampires.

[@thatguy771ify]

who worship molag bal

[@thedingo5797]

thatguy771ify no they worship daedra who serve molag bal

[@then35t18]

@@thedingo5797 We'd all be fucked. They'd secret vampirism out of their bodies, thus turning us all.

[@nexusvirus514]

no... sloads are mighty necromamcer who can make living from that thats why some has followes and taugjt mannimarco...

[@reofyrez1123]

Imagine how they look when they find out that "The Deep Ones" are just Deathclaws

[@mournful7014]

Who would reference the sloads piece on emails other than the most skilled hackers in all of the wasteland, the deathclaws

[@ryanjackson7515]

mind = blown

[@Thecoolaccount]

Reo Fyrez If I could look like a deathclaw I'd be worshipping the deep ones too!

[@supercool1312]

Thecoolaccount ??

[@supercool1312]

Thecoolaccount he is saying the deep ones ARE DEATHCLAWS

[@bigtokerbeandon7131]

The Deep Ones: Santana, Esidisi, Wamuu, and Kars.

[@ThatWunDolphin]

ゴ ゴ ゴ AYAYAYAY

[@unrelentingawesomeness7501]

@@ThatWunDolphin tamtadatam

[@forestcampbell8962]

Indeed brethren.

[@dyonisos7295]

AWAKEN MY SLOADS !

[@partydue123]

Hold up, Santana is Elsweyr

[@Welshhobo1]

My first thought was the the "deep ones" were creatures like the "nameless things" in the LOTR universe or "old gods" like in WoW. They are Lovecraftian monsters based on things like C'thulu and Yog-Sothoth. Most fantasy games/worlds have some kind of Lovecraft monsters that live under the surface of the world that used to rule it in the distant past, and are plotting to one day take it over.

[@kevinpoynter6697]

Let's also point out that dagon is the name of an angel that used to be worshipping in ancient Syria And the name molag bal is extremely reminiscent of baal who was also an evil angel that was once worshiped in ancient Israel Of malachath that seems similar to moloch who is also a fallen angel that was once worshiped Bethesda itself is also a biblical name, tbh the developers of the elder scrolls might just be very fond of devils, might even be worshippers of devils And devil is a fallen angel for those that don't know There was real devil worship back then, and there's real devil worship nowadays, but I hope that shows you the opposite side of things. There is one true God, and to us Christians he came in the form of man as Jesus Christ who reconciled the world to himself as a willing sacrifice for the world

[@kevinpoynter6697]

Lovecraft never created them, they were real monsters worshiped in the real world

[@dianauwu1312]

@@kevinpoynter6697 who hurt you

[@thebigboss1824]

​@@dianauwu1312 Good question

[@Deadbeatcow]

​@@kevinpoynter6697don't forget you can also murder and steal in bethesda games, tbh I think they're actually thieves and killers in real life!

[@WhiteSage21]

“The gathering? Sounds magic.” you are a legend

[@anthonycurry-wheeler521]

well porn can wait

[@AlterMythic]

Anthony curry-wheeler THE DEEP ONES ( ͡ᵔ ͜ʖ ͡ᵔ )

[@mathiasnygaard5645]

Good one xD

[@xyzyzx1253]

I came after I came felt like sharing, hope none of you are my employer

[@HunterSentinel]

Anthony curry-wheeler to late.

[@LuckofLucien6]

Anthony curry-wheeler this is my porn

[@kurtberliner7049]

38:00 It would be a smart long game for Molag. Like, he has to know that his invasion could be stopped, and it would be good for him when it is all over to plant a few seeds so he can have some inflence.

[@TheLadyLiddell]

I understand this is a lore video on the Deep Ones more than the quest itself, but you forgot a few details like finding Dar-Ma's diary in the Inn and if you actually sleep there you'll be attacked by the Bretheren.

[@callumkristofer7793]

Then there's also the nearby vampire dungeon.

[@KyleJordanGaming]

Edit: With your help, I may have (entirely by accident) stumbled onto an interesting, albeit slightly uncomfortable, additional minor detail/‘theory’/something. I’m gonna post it in the main comment section, just for fun. I’ll credit you. Perhaps, after only *4 years* we may have inadvertently uncovered yet another mystery of Hackdirt (bad pun totally intended). Lol. 👍 ------ Ohh. Good eye. That would be another clear parallel to Shadow Over Innsmouth. In SOI, the narrator visits Innsmouth out of curiosity one day, quickly realizing that there’s some messed up shenanigans afoot. He starts low key investigating and asking some questions, receiving the obligatory “None o’ yer business, outsider! Get on outta here if’n ya know what’s good for ya!” shtick, finally meeting some drunk hobo who tells him that shi is f’d, they made a ‘pact’ with the ‘Deep Ones’ and gave them ‘blood- and worse’, then over time they started mutating to become like the Deep Ones. The ones who are most affected start to live in secret tunnels underneath all the old houses to be close to the deep ones, eventually fully transforming into gross fish-men things and going to live underwater with the deep ones in their freaky underwater fish-men city (HP Lovecraft was legitimately crazy and did *alot* of drugs... to no one’s surprise...). The townspeople, who are of course spying on him, tell him that- yo, crazy coincidence, the bus, the only way out of town, suddenly ‘broke’ and, crazy coincidence, it won’t be fixed until the next day, but it’s cool, he can stay at the inn for the night, where they definitely will *not* try to secretly kill him because he knows too much about their freaky town (spoiler alert: they try to secretly kill him because he knows too much about their freaky town- who could’ve seen that one coming?). Interestingly, after escaping, contrary to the ‘Horror Story Rules’, he tells people there’s a town full of freaky fish-monsters and they actually believe him and send in the military to burn down the city- kind of like... the Imperial Legion going in and burning down Hackdirt (duh)... So the quest doesn’t directly parallel the plot of SOI, it’s actually more like a ‘sequel’, where after the city is burned down, the survivors start to rebuild and ‘rediscover’ the secrets of the deep ones and try to make contact with them again, at which point a second ‘outsider’ (the player) shows up and finds out about their crazy shit. Much more creative than just a straight up rehash of SOI. Very cool. As for “blood...and worse...”, how/why exactly the townspeople started to look more and more like the deep ones within a generation or so of ‘meeting’ them, the fact that they specifically chose a young *woman* to ‘sacrifice’, given Molag Bal’s known... hobbies... especially in light of a particular bit of extremely uncomfortable dialogue with Serana from Skyrim regarding the ‘ritual’ performed by Harkon for Molag Bal, which she refuses to talk about, only saying that it was... “degrading”... before quickly changing the subject... Yeah... Wait. Something just occurred to me... “Brethren”... Now, I went to public school so I’m not very smart and I don’t have my Thesaurus on hand at the moment (foolishness- always keep your Thesaurus handy...), but, IIRC, the term “Brethren” can generally refer to any close-knit community/organization/‘family’/etc, but more specifically equates to “Brotherhood”... Weren’t all of the ‘Brethren’ in the cave where the young Argonian Maid was going to be... ‘sacrificed’... men...? Inexplicably shirtless... half-clothed... men... Wielding peculiar maces... long, hard, thick, stiff, girthy... wood... ‘maces’...? ... OP, you mentioned that when sleeping at the inn, you’ll be attacked by the ‘Brethren’. I notice you go by ‘LadyLiddell’- is it safe to assume that your Oblivion character was a... female? Camel, you mentioned that if you talk to that woman in Hackdirt as a Vampire, her disposition changes from 4 to 100- I believe you specifically worded it “...she couldn’t be any more in love with you...”- is it safe to assume that your character in Oblivion was a... male? Because... yeah... Well... that took a bit of a dark turn... Screw it. Send in the Legion. Burn that joint again. Use more fire this time. That is just a whole barrel of ‘NOPE’. TLDR: Stay TF away from Hackdirt. :|

[@TheLadyLiddell]

@@KyleJordanGaming an interesting (and disturbing) observation, and you're right my character was female. This makes me want to experiment with this quest a bit with different characters.

[@hammerite6418]

@@KyleJordanGaming so the deep ones are just incels

[@kodiakeaton1866]

One small thing you failed to mention is that nearby Hackdirt is the vampire infested Fort Carmala and the Aeylied ruin of Wendir with it's crazy tentacle like vines and creepy statue with deadric looking faces at the base. Great videos by the way keep it up.

[@KingKaedus]

I go through all detective videos every couple of weeks, helps get me through a work shift, thanks bro for the playlist 👌👌

[@CalamityCallie_0]

This is the best elder scrolls related video I have ever seen in my life, hands down. I'm not even done yet and I can already say that, you've really outdone yourself here camel! Definitely going to show this to my friends asap

[@jimmywalker7381]

Callie ok.

[@Phhase]

The Deep Ones are the devs, obviously.

[@BigGuyJoh]

Bro, that's deep.

[@Reguluzs]

Oblivionsly*

[@wokenotbroke5976]

"We find a horse but not just any horse, nay..." Lol

[@speedygun198]

That one dislike is from a deep one

[@Forgmin7764]

SpeedygunOne any and all dislikes are deep ones trying to hide their evil plans

[@alectryon2478]

U DONT KNOW ANYTHING

[@rivetingeel2389]

Jyggalag I swear I killed you in oblivion...

[@Daugust77]

SpeedygunOne apparently there are 114 deep ones now

[@speedygun198]

Augie Oberkrom This is bad news 😯

[@Uradamus]

Your theory would probably make for a great mod. Would be great to have a nice big underground map filled with daedra and lava pits and perhaps a previously undiscovered/lost clan of vampires. I'm also thinking it would be amazing if the roaring sound was from a daedric titan, one of Molag Bal's creations modeled after the skeletal remains of a powerful dragon he captured, tortured and later consumed. Could probably even put a gate to Coldharbor down there as well!

[@morssinistram5169]

THIS IS GENIUS WE MUST DO THIS WHERE IS THE GREATEST TEAM OF MODDERS WE NEED THEIR EXPERTISE

[@somethingclever1718]

Get MXR and his friends

[@somethingclever1718]

MXR would cum his pants hearing this idea

[@stephenlong9806]

Some other possibilities could be Lurkers from the realm of Hermaeos Mora, or Falmer. Lurkers are also heavily inspired by Lovecraft, and seemed like slave drivers. And HermeMora is known for his forbidden knowledge. And Falmer would account for the change being displayed, the susceptibility to sunlight.

[@shadysam7161]

Another factor about the Daedra and Lovecraft Mehrune's Dagon shares a name with *Dagon* who is a sea god in the Lovecraft Mythos, and plays a part in Shadow Over Innsmouth.

[@llybophibjartskulr3799]

If they're lurkers, a different sound byte for them was used than the one in dragon born

[@soleo2783]

@@shadysam7161 This was mentioned in the video.

[@shaneberndt1701]

I don't think falmer since they have no known association with the daedra and have not been seen outside of Skyrim

[@KoStorms]

YES! This is the video I've been waiting for since you started this series. No joke this freaked me out as teen playing Oblivion. Even more when my friend told me you can hear them.

[@cyrusambrose4547]

If not for that the Deep Ones had a physical presence, I would've guessed influence of the Ideal Masters. Speaking of which, would love an analysis of them and the Soul Cairn.

[@konstantinub]

I guess you got your wish!

[@vibri_]

Watching this video makes me proud of saving Dar-Ma, definitely don't want such a pure argonian waifu sacrificed to the Prince of Rape.

[@redcell9636]

Never. Save the waifus of Tamriel.

[@kevinpoynter6697]

Let's also point out that dagon is the name of an angel that used to be worshipping in ancient Syria And the name molag bal is extremely reminiscent of baal who was also an evil angel that was once worshiped in ancient Israel Of malachath that seems similar to moloch who is also a fallen angel that was once worshiped Bethesda itself is also a biblical name, tbh the developers of the elder scrolls might just be very fond of devils, might even be worshippers of devils And devil is a fallen angel for those that don't know There was real devil worship back then, and there's real devil worship nowadays, but I hope that shows you the opposite side of things. There is one true God, and to us Christians he came in the form of man as Jesus Christ who reconciled the world to himself as a willing sacrifice for the world

[@kevinpoynter6697]

There's real life rapist angels that were once worshiped But the one who stands against it, the only light is God, and in the form of Jesus Christ it's the easiest time in history to repent and be with God or else you may just find out how real the rape angel is

[@Snakes64skin]

@@kevinpoynter6697wtf-

[@crumblingmasonry8961]

​@@kevinpoynter6697 Quiet, ya numpty.

[@michaellyles3853]

This isn't any old horse "neigh" lmao nice one camel! XD

[@NoMaloneUnturned2]

Michael Lyles because he repeated a thousand year old joke?

[@ianrocha4896]

Mayhaps the devs use that particular bit of text as a joke easteregg placeholder, something meant to say 'we want you to know this exists, but exact contents aren't actually important enough to spend time on.'

[@azraelcorvo9087]

Ian Rocha So basically it's the Elder Scrolls version of Lorem Ipsum.

[@ederanged7960]

*Physicist* "The Theory of Relativity is the best theory." *Camelworks* "Hold my beer."

[@calliejones5085]

KeepNnjgujthe ioityiy

[@3ll1mc]

this is hands down my favorite series on youtube

[@fritsvandepas7233]

Recent corpses wouldnt go to the deep ones because they have been cut of due to the cave in. They are being sacrificed in a desperate attempt to bring them back.

[@DrayLoco]

This is the first video of yours I watched and I've seen it about 5 times. Such a long time ago, yet so memorable. it really made me so much more interested in how deep, well written,and mysterious Elder Scrolls lore can be.

[@theodentherenewed4785]

One of the most memorable quests of Oblivion. Interesting theories with how little we learn about the deep ones.

[@benjaminwalter1575]

im surprised bethesda didn't add an alternate ending; where if you don't save her they do summon the deep ones. would have been interesting.

[@jordancarter4426]

5 years later and still Camel, his series', and his voice are like a little piece of peace.

[@jlan7844]

I think those argonians at the start were more frightening than any of the crazy stuff you dealt with. I had almost completely repressed the memories of how bad Oblivion character designs were. And on the subject of the "Deep Ones" it was probably just old Sheogorath finding a new way to keep himself entertained by screwing with a few mortals.

[@benthomason3307]

no. Sheogorath has a certain... distinct air to him and his operations. At no point did anything in this video strike me as alluding to sheogorath. For one we just don't know if the bretheren are insane or not. warped and physically deformed? sure. but for all we know their minds might not have changed in the slightest. Most important of all however is the lack of any mention of cheese.

[@soupgirl1871]

Ben Thomason clavicus vile could've tricked them because he's a daedric Prince of something to do with trickery. He designed a masque to trick a man to love a woman then take it away when she got pregnant and all

[@ant2901]

He has a mod installed it looks like, doesn't really make anyone look better they're still ugly

[@NamelessKing1597]

son ant in this case uglier than the original

[@Just_Call_Me_Frosty]

Interesting theory on the vampires. Nice comprehensive video!

[@enderheroes877]

When you watch stuff about the deep ones at night, in the dark, alone

[@Hidan237]

About 97% of the earths water is found in the oceans, the other 3% is found in underground reservoirs, glaciers, lakes, and so on. If Tamriel is anything like our Earth, It's more than possible for a Sload to be trapped or otherwise reside underground assuming there's a water reservoir under or around Hackdirt.

[@jimmywalker7381]

JacobvonMatthiew eh.

[@mathewculver8530]

in skyrim septimus mentions the deep ones being almost as smart as dwemer

[@MegaAgamon]

Mathew Culver Where?

[@kwalshe15]

While he does mention this one he actually says something slightly different he says the " elder scroll gives insight deeper than the deep one."

[@cardthief7149]

I think during that dialogue he was talking about the Dwemer, as the Dwemer are also knows as Deep Elves, Deep Folk, Deep Ones, or the People of the Deep.

[@nintindofandarklink]

Thank you so much for videos like this man. It really makes the commute way more interesting. This is probably the 4th time I've watched this. Appreciate ya, much love 👌

[@epicjn]

6:36 was that a reference to a certain card game? I'm glad I'm subscribed to you lol

[@deptusmechanikus7362]

26:54 there’s a lot of water underground. Giant lakes and even rivers connecting them

[@nobilisvaga5267]

I think I know which dadric princ it was, hermaeus mora. My proof is two things one is the book itself, as we know from the dragon born dlc hermaeus mora employs seekers to record all information. So it's safe to say that the dadra record there findings in dadric. I think that when the cave collapsed so many years ago it killed a seeker, and just like the piles of rags left by seekers in the dragon born dlc, there were books on them. So the book found in the cave, was just a book from hermaeus moras realm. This also awnsers many other questions as well since the motive of other princes wouldn't fit here. Once hermaeus mora had finnaly found out all the knowledge he wanted from the town's people, by jabbing his tendrils threw them, he moved on taking his seekers with him. Unfortunately he left behind one of his mind spires (the structure Mirak uses to force people to work) all thow it's purpose is different than building. I know this one is a long shot but say the brethren were cover in all rags and floated...... I wonder what they would look like. Yes I am saying the stone in the caves is slowly turning them into seekers. The pedestal in the church also proves it, the bottom portion of the stand looks like an eye, surrounded by tentacles.

[@temporalwolf7054]

So, this could be a reach and a half, but the sound unique to Hackdirt sounded almost like a dragon's roar. What if during the mythic era, there was a dragon that worshiped Molag Bal and was turned into some vampiric abomination (sort of like how Durnheviir was made into a dracolich) and then Molag Bal hid said dragon beneath Hackdirt to create the cavern network below the town that would eventually hold an army of Molag Bal's, with the intent to be to burst from under Hackdirt to cause more strife when the dragons returned to Tamriel and the Empire was at its weakest?

[@AdonanS]

36:52 "Oh don't mind me. I'm just sweeping my porch next to this here fissure."

[@zilvoxidgod]

Just sweep it all into the lava

[@spaceonisorceress4406]

Thank you for sharing this! The mystery of the Deep Ones has been on my mind since I first played Oblivion back in 2008, and your conclusion makes quite a lot of sense. I also didn't know about that eerie growl in the caverns until you pointed it out, and that is REALLY scary. Things like this make the world of TES that much more immersive, so thank you again for the effort you put into researching and sharing this stuff :)

[@jonhillman871]

This was my favorite TES Detective. I really like the story Shadows Over Innsmouth and liked that Bethesda inserted it into TES via Shadows over Hackdirt. I can't commit to any particular theory about the TES deep ones though. I suspect the devs never wanted there to be a definitive answer.

[@borkbork3513]

Minecraft: my cave sounds are terrifying Hackdirt: You dare oppose the sloade

[@curiouscat94x77]

Hissing is the scariest sound of them all!

[@danielgogola]

THAT WAS FASCINATING!!! I love ES lore and history and I'm very ignorant of most of it. To have someone do such a deep dive, suggest so many possible theories, and even flex a little bit of knowledge was really cool to see. Liked, Subscribed, and hit the bell. I can't wait to see what other videos you have already and what is yet to come! I also can't wait to share this with my friends whom enjoy the ES series as much as I.

[@maksimlozanoski]

Damm you are rich in the speech department.

[@kekwokeson6499]

MaxBlaze his verbosity and linguistic repertoire are indeed inspiring and substantial.

[@lolosh99]

Your profile picture is quite nice

[@Kain_N_]

Id like to the the deep ones could be one of two things, either dwarves who split during the collapse and became daedra worshippers since their beliefs failed them. Or scarier and much worse and unknown race of daedra that live in pure darkness unbound to any princes or bound to the forgotten one

[@aronmo2755]

I put this video on whenever I have trouble sleeping. I halfway know it by heart by now. Must have watched it at least 50 times haha

[@HunterSentinel]

Perhaps it's an underground lake which would allow the sload to survive. That would also possibly effect their appearance and mental state. Being underground and isolated from anything besides the same place for centuries or millennia they would be more aggressive (contrary to the average sload), probably fewer in number as well as a longer life, and or different in other ways. Perhaps the sload or sloads made a deal long ago with a daedra. they may have lived in the cave system and came out every so often to eat or corrupt. Maybe the power they gained Extended their lives and twisting them into something completely new.

[@HunterSentinel]

Hell, why couldn't they be daedric vampiric sload? That's pretty much what I said with my first comment.

[@Xbalanque84]

Hunter Hagen Perhaps, following the theme of Lovecraft and the Cthulhu Mythos, any sload down there are _asleep._ In the wake of the first purge, perhaps the sload went into hibernation until the situation improved. By this logic, the noises would be the sload shifting in its/their sleep, the sacrifices are actually being ignored by the dormant sload, what's-her-name is a vampire taking advantage of the situation to collect blood _for herself,_ and the changes of the Hackdirt natives could just be the result of earlier generations of sload tampering, mutation caused by magical radiation/simple proximity to the sload, and/or just several decades of inbreeding.

[@ryguy1483]

I mean, it's possible, but the evidence in the video about it being Molag is far more compelling imo. Seriously, the vampire dialogue thing blew me away and the maces..... two very strong evidences. Also, I think "or worse" phrase refers to rape.

[@axeldornelles5292]

Ryan Seneczko The sudden change of disposition for being a vampire is also explainable by the Sload hypothesis. You see, Sloads are avid necromancers and frequently make servants out of them. Being a servant of a necromancer, she could simply have a positive view of the undead. Vampires are, in the end, just a type lf undead.

[@ambds1975]

Also, you've no idea that 'all' the bodily remains in the cavern are of sacrifices. They might just be brethren who died there.

[@snazzydrew]

camel, this was an amazing video! like thank you. keep up the amazing work. I'm actually gonna hit up that patreon. you've earned it.

[@VanTemplar]

I just love H.P. Lovecraft! A brilliant mind and a genius!

[@mr.jameson218]

Van Steel Not to mention hardcore racist. lol

[@SoI_Badguy]

Yeah, his cat was my favorite

[@rakkatytam]

@@mr.jameson218 Eh, he was a man of his environment. Also he wasn't incapable of changing. It's noted as he traveled more he began to become less and less xenophobic and racist.

[@realityrabbid3053]

Why do people always have to bring up his personal beliefs whenever someone mentions how brilliant he was in writing. Sure, he was racist. So was everyone else late 19th century early 20th century but that doesn’t discredit literary genius.

[@NotherPokemonTrainer]

@@realityrabbid3053 he was pretty racist even for the time though, and i think people bring it up because those themes of xenophobia and his fear of the unknown are big themes in his works. If he wasn't such a xenophobe he probably wouldn't have written such great stories.

[@Safis100]

This town is fucking creepy

[@angelitabecerra]

I've just found your channel and been really enjoying this detective series. If you haven't already would you consider doing a video on Serana, the Daughters of Coldharbor (especially the first one), Molag Bal, and how Serana and her family became Vampire Lords?

[@gandalf_thegrey]

I've already written that under a video of yours but the jokes on the channel are the absolute dirt worst and I absolutely love every single second of it.

[@ehdollet9641]

Interesting. Glad to see a new episode of this.

[@ironox8480]

to quote an old song. "It's beginning to look a lot like fish men, every where I go."

[@codedsky]

YOUR theory is the one that makes the most sense. Good job on this video man! I stayed focused and interested throughout the ENTIRE video.

[@paxtonhayes7822]

Great video! Watched the whole thing

[@tOGGLEwAFFLES]

Pretty sure the sload book is because it's fish people, like the Lovecraft story.

[@llybophibjartskulr3799]

Just makes more sense to me.

[@PhxSml]

Dude your attention to details is insane. I’m amazed about how much stuff you can find in these videos. Good job!

[@alexblack5588]

This video was awesome,camel. I always was curious about those deep ones and wished there would be more about them when I did this quest. Btw,can you make a video about soul cairn and the all maker if you haven't yet,please? I think they are sort of mysterious stuff in the TES world too.

[@malphasblackwing420]

Also Molag Bal’s shrine is pretty close to Hackdirt if you look at the map of Cyrodiil… I wouldn’t be surprised if the people of Hackdirt pay the occasional visit to that particular shrine from time to time…

[@Delete240]

Doubt it. More likely Mehrunes Dagon worshippers.

[@kevinpoynter6697]

Let's also point out that dagon is the name of an angel that used to be worshipping in ancient Syria And the name molag bal is extremely reminiscent of baal who was also an evil angel that was once worshiped in ancient Israel Of malachath that seems similar to moloch who is also a fallen angel that was once worshiped Bethesda itself is also a biblical name, tbh the developers of the elder scrolls might just be very fond of devils, might even be worshippers of devils And devil is a fallen angel for those that don't know There was real devil worship back then, and there's real devil worship nowadays, but I hope that shows you the opposite side of things. There is one true God, and to us Christians he came in the form of man as Jesus Christ who reconciled the world to himself as a willing sacrifice for the world

[@malphasblackwing420]

@@kevinpoynter6697 What does that have to do with what I said?

[@Snakes64skin]

@@malphasblackwing420apparently that comment is everywhere in this comment section of the video-

[@Sycatrax]

This was like the second-ever video I watched by you. Still a masterpiece.

[@davidkeys8720]

Imagine if random skyrim quests where like this

[@KyleJordanGaming]

There are a few quests/areas in Skyrim (and Fallout 4, even) with some pretty crazy deep lore mystery stuff like this- specifically, Lovecraft inspired. Off the top of my head, the most iconic is probably Rorikstead. There’s also that weird magic tree(??) thing, strongly referencing “The Color Out of Space”, another Lovecraft story. Plus ‘Kagrenzel’, I think it’s called, the Dwemer Ruins in eastern Skyrim where you get in what appears to be an elevator, then you just freefall into this freaking gigantic cavern and it’s really funky and may have once held the Numidium (the Dwemer’s giant... robot... Elder Scrolls is weird, man...). Not to mention Blackreach. I’m pretty sure Camel has videos on all of them. He also recently did a *3 hour* video about the Augur of Dunlain, that random talking glowing thing in the Mage’s College Basement that you talk to *once* in the entire game. It was pretty impressive. 3 hours... gotta respect the grind... Lol...