Skyrim: 5 Things They Never Told You About The Thalmor

[@martijn769]

The dragonborn: "I can worship anyone I want." random thalmor agent: "and so you will die a traitors death!" *elven armor (3) added*

[@suddenrushsarge]

Aww..... they shit themselves....

[@rivaraptor4277]

*Elven armor (2) added* *Thalmor robes added*

[@martijn769]

@@rivaraptor4277 shhhh iknowww ;P

[@martijn769]

@@suddenrushsarge "just give me whatever, I really need to go!"

[@joshbrosh6626]

Thalmor appears Me a simple man pulls out wuuthrad 😂

[@NotRelated2Ryne]

“Summerset Supremacist” sounds like if a high elf was also a WWE star

[@MrLeopoldho]

Dragonborn, Archmage, Listener, Harbinger of the Companions... WWE Champion...

[@headecas]

His finisher is of course sumersault isles

[@travislee4588]

Aaaaand our Chaaallenger weighing 105lbs The Summerset Chaaaampion!!!!

[@matteusgreyling7074]

For a moment I thought you were gonna reference ww2 and Senór Hitler

[@leepreston9637]

@Jimmy Jazz what's wrong with Zionist Jews?

[@Thoroughly_Wet]

"Desbern and Eelphine" 17:48 Eat your cereal

[@KellingtonDorkswafer]

EELphine?!

[@quiet5811]

(・o・)

[@daltonsimmerock5999]

@@MonstobLee same here😂

[@whenthemusicsover6028]

@Thoroughly Wet Glad I'm not the only one who caught this. :)

[@Rahnonymous]

Well, ain't that back asswards?

[@MrCarpelan]

Rest in peace to Esbern's voice actor Max von Sydow.

[@nathandominie914]

RIP

[@HornadyMatt]

Rip

[@promnightdumpsterbaby9553]

Hail ming

[@robertjethrogallano1053]

Rest in Peace

[@Reb1783]

F

[@GoblinLord]

I find it funny how the Thalmor had the sacrifice to get Daedra plan, because it kinda proves how insufficient their forces were, considering not only would they need the help of Oblivion , but they also used a Daedric Artifact to do so well in the first place, considering their usage of the Orb of Vaermina, which basically allowed them to know all imperial troop movements

[@h2oallegation]

After them not using it, the reguard and legion destroyed them in Hammerfall, and of course, the legion destroyed them in the main battle at the imperial city. Their biggest armies, had the empire kept going, they most likely would have won and drove to back to their island.

[@nyalan8385]

@@h2oallegation elves stay losing

[@komiks42]

I think their bigest weakness is pride. They underestimate their enemies, and think that they are better race. You know, ther is one historicial figure that did something like this.

[@xembones]

@@komiks42 biologically speaking they are the superior race due to their ancestral relations to the aedra

[@AlbinoMothDragon]

​@@xembonesthe Aylieds thought the same until Pelinal Whitestrake waltzed in and drove the entire race to extinction.

[@jmoxie]

For the 100% of players who just attack thalmor soliders when you see them walking Don't worry you’re perfectly normal

[@quiet5811]

( ꈍᴗꈍ) I just have sex with them ..i am normal too .right?

[@niko_8208]

@@quiet5811 You're on thin fucking ice.

[@dejavu8982]

@@niko_8208 doesnt matter, had sex

[@Thomas_Bergel]

Niko _ I misunterstodd the comment... i thought you were talking about fucking on ice 😅

[@jmoxie]

@@dejavu8982 😂 reminded me of deep space 69

[@lukaberisavac8748]

Last time i was this early Uriel Septim was still the Emperor.

[@metetural9140]

Which Uriel? There's been seven...

[@KellingtonDorkswafer]

@@metetural9140 All of them

[@spiderz5145]

Reman*

[@Mr-Money01]

Hail Uriel Septim! And Martin Septim! And Talosl And why not Palagious the Mad because we need some crazy people.

[@DragonGunzDorian]

Ah yes. Back when the empire was still cool.

[@totallynotmozziesaccount8506]

In TES6, I want the bards to sing songs about the Dovahkiin

[@halo1989100]

Dovahkiin.

[@totallynotmozziesaccount8506]

@@halo1989100 Thanks for the correction

[@shadrawand4864]

they do

[@Femaiden]

given that the bards of skyrim only know 3 songs...and it takes an entire course of study at the college to learn them...

[@Carl-gx7lt]

@@FemaidenThe bards actually sing 5 songs (though it's still not very impressive...): Ragnar the Red The Dragonborn Comes The Age of Oppression The Age of Agression Tale of Tongues (which is only available after completing the main questline) Then there is an additional song which has been partly lost in time: "The Ancient Song" or "Song of the Dragonborn"(the one that begins with "Dovahkiin, Dovahkiin, Naal ok zin los vahriin.)

[@austinhealey2148]

Wow! I'm playing as a high elf, I wish I had known about wearing the Thalmor outfit during that quest. That was a huge battle. I hate the Thalmor, whenever I see them on the roads with a prisoner I start an argument with them so they attack me. Then I kill them all and then let the prisoner go free. The Thalmor also send assignation squads after me. I kill them too.

[@r3apergamer539]

I typically kill the prisoner too for fun

[@messler5636]

You should kill the prisioners too along with those thalmor dogs altmer brother they are stormcloak scum!

[@killertruth186]

"Assignation"

[@talonshadowscale4519]

As head of the Shadowscale Clan and leader of the Dark Brotherhood, I refused that contract.

[@etain21918]

It had been a long time since I did it on my first high elf game and pretty sure I did the same The second high elf game I've done I just went sneaky wear their clothes and stuff didn't even realise the option I ran away from a guard saying SHE'S NOT SUPPOSED TO BE HERE thinking I'd get attacked nope 😂

[@RaikouSonzai]

"We see the penitus occulatus as antagonists through the lens of the dark brotherhood" gee I wonder why assassins that serve a satan-death angel of the void would be against heroes who try to keep people alive at all costs.

[@ronnyyako4352]

It's crazy how we see commander Maro as such a terrible guy but really we were attempting to assassinate his emperor while also killing his son in the process. All he wanted was to keep the people he loved alive.

[@caninelupus8369]

Antagonist, not villain.

[@sparkeyjames]

Yes they keep people alive at all cost except lone travelers who have done no wrong those they send to the headsmans axe.

[@RaikouSonzai]

@@sparkeyjames yeh why not, I was bored. That was the imperial army. P.O. is a specific thing special for the emperor. We're talking military service vs secret service here. Just because one general in the army made the call to keep a likely innocent for the firing squad wouldn't put the president's bodyguard at guilt. Git gud.

[@hidan407]

Hmmmm that brings up the question, how come The Dark brotherhood didnt assassinate targets thats Thalmor? Pretty much everyone and their mothers hate the thalmor. Its surprising that they never attempted to help out during the war by actually assassinating real targets for a change and not some petty murder.

[@boldbearings]

Esbern in-game says something along the lines of "The Thalmor don't want the world to end anymore than we do....or at least they prefer to end it on their terms..." which is pretty creepy.

[@jstar3382]

I mean, that's theorized to be the true goal of the Thalmor. Take all the towers and then shatter them at once hoping to collapse Aurbis

[@ereynolds72]

@@jstar3382that is proven nonsense peddled by one guy

[@ThreadBareHope1234]

It looks that way. And I was actually under the impression that they wanted to hasten the inevitable because the also were (originally) motivated by desperation or shame. I thought they wanted to unity Tamriel or get rid of presumed blasphemers to be worthy of being god like again (mortality is a curse/trick, in their religion). Or to bring back their promised land, Aldmeris. But no, they're just hateful. I hope this book is just the author's perspective. Ain't no way the Aldmeri Dominion never had normal motivations

[@boldbearings]

@@jstar3382 To regain their true immortality in the pre-time reality?

[@boldbearings]

@@ereynolds72 Who, how?

[@finarfin1989]

"In Skyrim we see Penitus Oculatus as antagonists, but are actually the good guys" Yes, because someone who oppose a guild of assassin should be perceived as bad xD

[@Misanthropolis]

Exactly.

[@HzizsVynryn]

They killed a lot of cool dudes in the Brotherhood.

[@TuIdiota]

Antagonist just means opposed to the protagonist. So yes, given how the dragonborn is the protagonist, the penitus oculatus are clearly the antagonist

[@thievinglittlegoblin404]

@@HzizsVynryn ah yes, vezeera the cold blooded killer, or the failed companion arbjorn who has the taste of blood

[@moringrey7981]

When I do good guy dragon born I help comander marro

[@rivaraptor4277]

I would’ve never gotten rich in skyrim if it weren’t for all those Thalmor I killed. Best XP and septim farms in the game

[@wisemankugelmemicus1701]

After Dawnguard you can sell each Elder Scroll to Dexion for 6000 gold. Because of that I'm over 10k gold and under Level 20. It's a nice bonus.

[@niceguy6751]

@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 iron dagger with banish daedra enchantment use petty soul gems and the restocking exploit and you'll be richer than that

[@thewewguy8t88]

@@wisemankugelmemicus1701 i am currently like 138 and have over 692k currently :)

[@thewewguy8t88]

@@niceguy6751 with all the soul gems i collect i do not even need to use any explot to get over well 200-300 dagers (granted i build up so much stamima)

[@writer5790]

Player.additem f 99999999

[@MrMathGames]

Item #2: While the games never really spell out what the Thalmor are after, there are a lot of in-game books that offer some interesting hints. In particular, books on religion and the Divines have lots of information about the differences between Men and Mer outlooks. Basically, in the time before the Elder Scrolls world (Nirn) existed, all the mortal races were free spirits that danced and flew around Aetherius. When Nirn was created, the spirits were tied to mortal bodies and thrown into the world. The races of Men think this was a blessing and want to protect Nirn, while the races of Mer think this was a horrible joke and want to return to the spirit-existence they used to have. Long story short, the Thalmor are religious extremists who want to literally end Nirn and return all of existence to the spirit world that once was. And that statement about how they will win in the end is actually well-supported. The end of the main quest lines in both E.S. 2 Daggerfall and E.S. 3 Morowind each involved one of the pillars holding the mortal world in place: Numidium and the Heart of Lorkahn respectively. And in Morowind, the Heart of Lorkahn was actually destroyed. One of the pillars holding the mortal realm in place was *actually destroyed*. And then there's Parthunaax, the leader of the Greybeards, oldest living dragon, Avatar of Akatosh himself, etc. When you meet him for the first time in Skyrim, he sort of halfway scolds you about trying to prevent the end of the world. He lectures you about how some day, Nirn will have to die to make way for the next world that will be born. And if there's one thing you can count on from an immortal child of the God of Time himself, it's understanding about how the world will end. In the end, it seems that even if the Thalmor themselves are smashed and stamped out, eventually the end of the world will come anyway. They will get what they want, even if they themselves aren't the architects of it.

[@brianschwarm8267]

Look at Alduins wall too, there’s a whole prophecy on it similar to the detailed you just laid out.

[@countzrathknock6737]

During that embassy mission. I was a High elf and my whole gimmick was I was a Thalmor Dragonborn who sided with Ulric just to cause instability in Skyrim. And I walked around most of the game in Thalmor robes. I didn't realize it was because of the robes I got the guard to Leave his post outside the Solar; That's kind of cool.

[@countzrathknock6737]

My entire Playthrough was to piss off my brother who Told me how much he loves the Stormcloaks and hated the Thalmor at length before I played the game. So I figured it would be fun to roleplay it. He and most of our friends were not amused.

[@moozie4195]

@@countzrathknock6737 and then everyone started clapping

[@luciannamagnotta3053]

I used to do the same thing but I was a dark elf and joined Ulfric just to cause instability

[@georgemurdock7670]

@@luciannamagnotta3053you know the nords and the empire in general thrives on instability? Biggest heros where always born out such times. The sword singer - yakudan civil war. 500 companions - atmoran civil war. Pelinal - nedic rebellion. Tiber septim - interregnum. Btw, what classified them as heros was the genocides on elvenkind they all carried out. So new instability - new hero - they will remember who caused instability - new genocide

[@virdamofromko-metru1161]

"When empire struck back" "Things *THEY* wouldn't tell you about Thalmor" Coincidence? Oh, I don't think so.

[@Rahnonymous]

Sky Wars

[@intensellylit4100]

@@Rahnonymous big downgrade form space.

[@moringrey7981]

The empire strikes back*

[@AllanElMelon1043]

Its not a story the elder scrolls would tell you. Its an old dragonborn legend.

[@virdamofromko-metru1161]

Miraak was a Dragonborn, so powerful and so wise he could use Shouts to influence the Thu'um to create life...

[@Grab_N001]

“Normally you’d have to fight your way through said courtyard” *EXCLUSIVE FOOTAGE OF A STREAKING DRAGONBORN*

[@RyaGnera]

Nate: “The struggle could’ve gone much worse for the empire if the thalmor exécuted a certain plan.” Me: Order 66?👀

[@GlennSkywalker2305]

Empire of Broken Bones yes my lord

[@RyaGnera]

Zgm 2305 😂💀

[@bam840]

that’s exactly what i thought! Especially after he said “the empire struck back” like 4 times lol

[@GlennSkywalker2305]

Empire of Broken Bones killed every follower

[@ritapesina345]

And when The empire strikes back lol

[@brentd2940]

The Thamor remind me of the Enclave from FO2. They both want to wipe out a certain people to replace them. Both have armies who look very evil. And both wants to take over a large amount of land. The only thing the Thamor is missing is the charm the Enclave has.

[@xenthon8160]

Yep.

[@razofdead]

I hope skyrim 6 give the charm neccesary maybe with big budget on magic, enchament, potions, experiments… Like summon daedra or making pacts to Daedra for example making deal with Daedra Lord or with Mallacath (try to get back his Trinnimac state, plus if they win him he can turn orcs to support Aldmeri dominion…

[@judeaberdeen6848]

​@@razofdeadYour hopes are too high. Remember to keep them very low so you won't be disappointed

[@LeonardAndHisBiscuit]

To note: The Dominion army in Hammerfell was, at the same time the host in Cyrodiil was being annihilated, being driven back and suffering defeat after defeat by the Legion and redguards there. These two armies were the largest the Dominion had at the time, and the defeat of both was very crippling to the group as a whole. Had the Empire continued the war, it would have ended in either the Dominion's defeat entirely, or at least a retreat back to and being held within the Summerset Isle by the Imperial navy.

[@Masitu0031]

Dominion still had armies in Elsweyr and Valenwood, which borders Cyrodiil. Meanwhile, Legionnaire contingents from Cyrodiil, Hammerfell, and Skyrim were tired and bloodied. Sure, the war can go either way. But Titus Mede II knows limit of his forces, so he pulled out when he was ahead. It is your choice to judge him as being cowardly or cautious.

[@svenrio8521]

@@Masitu0031 It was also implied the Imperial economy wasn't doing too well, with most of the treasury being drained of gold to fund the war effort.

[@Masitu0031]

​@@svenrio8521 at, Great War, 30 years before or at the time of Skyrim (4E 201)? Leonard and I talked about the time of Great War. While, military heavily burden treasury is post GW thing.

[@marsfreelander5969]

"When the empire surrendered they shamed us all..."

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

Even more proof how cowardly the pathetic Mede Empire is

[@ReikoAyanamiCh]

"Desbern and Elphine." Nice, Nate.

[@scottkendrix6231]

I came to the comments to see if anyone else caught and commented on that.

[@siriseon2659]

@@scottkendrix6231 Same hahaha i thought i was the only one

[@Femaiden]

lol, i was about to comment...17:48

[@komodoking8711]

Lol

[@strongside4565]

I remain pretty convinced that the final dragon mask, whose name translates to "warlord" was intended as the prize for a dragonborn recruited into the ranks of the dragon cult. Since that scenario would mean that the only being capable of truly killing a dragon would be fighting with them, the world would have been forced to bow the knee to the dragon cult. However, the dragon cult never got a chance to reward said mask and crumbled in absence of a dragonborn.

[@duplicitouscanadian3073]

And then crumbled in the presence of one as well 😂

[@lilymackie8179]

Didn’t work out for the first Dragonborn either 😂

[@Cru128]

Dragonborn: Defeats entire armies with their thu'um, a civil war champion, the person who KILLED Alduin. Bandits: Yo let's go get this guy.

[@thewewguy8t88]

hey to be fair it took me an hour with a lot of saving dying to kill 3 bandits on legendary once.

[@muninrob]

Let me fix that for you... Dragonborn: conquers every faction in skyrim Bandit 1: "LET'S MUG"EM!!" Bandit 2: "That's the legendary dragon born..." Bandit 1: "Uh-huh, u-huh, let's MUG'EM"

[@Cru128]

Bruh.

[@williamseib7432]

Dragonborn: becomes Archmage, listener of the dark brother hood. Civil war hero. Thane of whiterun. Defeater of Alduin the world eater. The dragonborn whom the greybeards summoned. Vilkas: "I've never even heard of this outsider."

[@Evionne]

Dragonborn: Ah shit, here we go again

[@viziolerix]

5:42 "So they ultimately suffered a grave defeat" *meanwhile a thalmor soldier ascends to sovngarde in the background*

[@septianpratama1129]

9oo9ooooooooooo99oo

[@viziolerix]

@@septianpratama1129 what

[@Kazuma11290]

I tried that disguise thing in the embassy on my first playthrough as a dark elf. They immediately caught me even from across an entire hallway. So unless you are specifically an altmer, that strategy is effectively useless. I honestly doubt the idea has any effect at all aside from that.

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

Which is sad. If Skyrim was a bit deeper, it would allow members of the other elven races to do a speech check. "Oh, I'm part of a mer exchange program. You know, learn things, ban false gods, all that stuff"

[@Kazuma11290]

@@HappyBeezerStudios If they were deep, disguising yourself would be a spell and doing speech checks to progress would be a normal play style.

[@felixc543]

First time I played Skyrim, I didn't realize the Thalmor and the Empire were different entities altogether because they always seemed so connected and i took my sweet time getting to the main questline I of course realize now that the Thalmor really just wanted to extend the Civil War as long as possible and they had a shaky truce with the Imperial Legion, but at the time it seemed like they were a close ally and this misunderstanding made me really dislike the Imperials at first.

[@franzfl]

Same happened for ESO, (The youtubwr guy, Danny.) but he's still stuck with that viewpoint.

[@Aethuviel]

That's nothing. It took me a while to tell the difference between "Thalmor" and "Falmer" (I had no subtitles).

[@SereneHaze6213]

I found the Thalmor Dossier on Ulfric, how he was their dormant asset etc, and yes their goal was just to prolong the war and weaken the empire from the inside. Not to mention the blatant proof that Ulfric is racist towards other races, and it just so happens i play an argonian mage, so yea, to hell with ulfric and his stormcloak. He's no different from that Madanach douche. Always sided with the empire from that moment on.

[@DragonGunzDorian]

There's no blatant proof ulfric is racist. Sure he probably doesn't love other races as much as the nords, but he'll accept you and respect you no matter what race you are.

[@oldtimergaming9514]

@@SereneHaze6213 Yawn, racist, game, yawn.

What happened: Me: *kills dragon* Me *gets attacked by thalmor* Me: *shouts them* Thalmor: *still fights me*

[@beingweirdisnormal1404]

I used bend will on a legendary dragon while encountering some thalmor, in front of them, and then took off on his back. Oh yeah, then commanded he kills them with me Me & legendary dragon: 1 Thalmor: 0

[@Mr.KittensAndGibberish]

@@beingweirdisnormal1404 Thalmor: *Dead

[@robertjethrogallano1053]

As for me i had a fun experience Me: just finished volkihar main questline *im a blood starved vampire already Thalmor troops i passed by: YOU WILL DIE Me: transformed into vampire lord form Also me: got nice amount of gold and some elven armor XD

[@izakireemsi2783]

*Shouts them next to a cliff*

[@Iguana5k]

I was kinda pissed that you cant actively fight and defeat them in Skyrim. So I snuck into their headquarter in Solitude, emptyed all my garbage out of my inventory and unrelenting forced the pile for them to clean up. Also killed every thalmor I saw on the road.

[@vinhashikatapham3804]

jusst like me bro respect we don't care about prisoners but slaughter all the thalmor true dovahkin

[@LendriMujina]

"Enjoy sweeping up all those wooden bowls, bloody linen wraps, and embalming tools. That is, if your framerate with all this garbage (besides yourselves) around lets you."

[@mariosmatzoros3553]

How can you "defeat" them? They're from the summerset isles , not from Skyrim, even if you could kill all of them in Skyrim, they would just send more.

[@marsfreelander5969]

Nernroot: 9001 removed

[@Iguana5k]

@@mariosmatzoros3553 Good point. Well defeating them might be a too ambicious goal (they might be important for the next game that will come in 2050 or so xD). But more quest to actively mess with them would have been nice. Like overtake their prison and the thalmor embassy when siding with the stormcloaks. Yeah they are still in the summerset isles and they will plan to take over again. But what bugs me is that when you side with the stormcloaks and win the war, they are still around like before without being percecuted in skyrim.

[@johnathanrichardson]

first time i saw valmir i took one look at him, said "no elf is gonna be wearing that (stormcloak) armor" and then immediately killed him. i suppose they didnt count on a lunatic cat with the soul of a dragon being puppeted by someone who really dosnt need an excuse to stab an elf

[@NordicTobz]

In my werewolf playthrough I loved to rip apart any thalmor( or elf ) to pieces. Just gave me a sense of wonderful satisfaction xD

[@creativecraving]

Racists! We woodland elves want as little to do with the Thalmor as you do! 😂

[@ktge5050]

The interesting thing to me about the Great War and the time Skyrim takes place is that since mer live so much longer than men most of the men who fought on the imperial side of the war are older and likely retired from soldiering but there’s a good chance any Thalmor agent you encounter in Skyrim took part in the war and killed many of the relatives of the people of Skyrim. 30 years ain’t nothin for an Altmer

[@BL4NK.F4C3]

Nate: *Appears in my notifications* Me: "A surprise to be sure but a welcome one."

[@thedeekabides]

Altmer may be High Elves, but Dunmer have the red eyes. Just sayin'

[@stevenseagal9911]

😂 underrated

[@toritopihuas]

I gots em too!! Jaja

[@JoylessBurrito]

Can confirm, am dank elf

[@NiCoNiCoNiCola]

Khajiits also kind of related to elves, they have tall khajiits that should be shorly called "high khajiits", they also can have red eyes, so they are thr highest beings in Tamriel. Maybe in whole Nirn

[@JoylessBurrito]

Nikolo Kavacio yeah, they did kinda invent skooma

[@Hatypus]

"While we in skyrim largely view the Penitus Oculatus as antagonists" Stop! You violated the law and joined the dark brotherhood for "loot" and "quests". Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence! Your stolen goods are now forfeit!

[@xandan1668]

Destroy the dark brotherhood.

[@justnoob8141]

At least they're just antagonist and not villain

[@xandan1668]

@Bart Dr Destroy the dark brotherhood!

[@talonshadowscale4519]

@@xandan1668 as a head of The Dark Brotherhood, I forbid this! (A low ranked DB assassin has accepted the contract for your life)

[@xandan1668]

@@talonshadowscale4519 thanks for the free armor and gold. (Tosses dead false DB into ditch) Your turn YOL TOOR SHUL! (The guards find the charred corpses of every dark brotherhood assassin floating in the whiterun moat)

[@ocefloww]

"In the end, they're going to win" Me with all the best items and level 150: Oh I don't think so.

[@NordicTobz]

and the ability to call a dragon to play the role of CAS ( close air support )

[@Yuki_Ika7]

I am a warrior for the Empire first, and I will never side with the Stormcloaks!!!!

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

@@Yuki_Ika7 guess u enjoy dropping your pants and bending over for the Dominion eh? To each their own...

[@TheyWillKnowAnother]

As a High Elf myself, I would like to clarify that not all of us support the Thalmor

[@jeshcar]

Ah yes. The High Elf soldier from The Rift

[@migzy4704]

As long as you don't wear Thalmor armor. I won't attack you randomly.

[@etain21918]

As a high elf, I don't support the thalmor... All the time... Daedra for life

[@Yuki_Ika7]

No worries, I am not against all High elves, just the Thalmor

[@HappyBeezerStudios]

As a high elf who is fighting to get Ulfric his rightful kingship, I support this message

[@GCJACK83]

Listening to this video, something that we do in Skyrim now makes sense. I doubt Motierre was smart enough on his own to set into motion the assassination of the emperor. Someone must have put the idea into his head somehow. Maybe the Thalmor. Because as part of the build-up to his assassination we have to murder the son of the head of the Penitus Oculatus. Then at the end, we kill said head in revenge for his messing with the player character. The Thalmor is the only group that benefits from dismantling the P.O. Thalmor gives Motierrer the idea, sits back and watches as he sets everything in motion, they don't really get their hands dirty in the whole mess.

[@Chicanery_Artifice]

i would say any faction not allied with the empire would benefit from the p.o being wiped out, not only the thalmor.

[@deadxdreadxpunk6091]

I always had a sneaking suspicion that the hit Motierre ordered was also orchestrated by the Thalmor as well, he was just a puppet for them

[@dasik84]

It was the Emperor himself.

[@waddle_plop]

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[@misterturkturkle]

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[@hr473]

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[@misterturkturkle]

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[@gigaswardblade7261]

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[@misterturkturkle]

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[@darklight645_]

3:00 Elder Scrolls Wars Episode V: The Empire Strikes Back

[@ze.3789]

struck

[@TranscendentLion]

Episode VI: Return of the Septims?

[@TheOnyxSpy]

@@TranscendentLion If we're to take what Todd Howard said about the possible story of TES V before they went with what we got, I wouldn't be surprised 🤔

[@tarvoc746]

"What [Michael Kirkbride] said may not be 100% canon." Or 50%. Or 20%. Or 10%. Kirkbride's post-Bethesda TES writing is the Elder Scrolls equivalent of theorizing about Roswell UFOs. Incidentally, it actually does contain UFOs. And genocidal cyborgs, and space warfare, and time travel technology. No, I'm not kidding. It actually is _that_ nutty.

[@Keithjustkeithwastaken]

You mean actually is that good and not just the Lord of the rings

[@tarvoc746]

@@Keithjustkeithwastaken If you mean that Lord of the Rings is good because it's not that, then yes. Not sure what Lord of the Rings has to do with Elder Scrolls though. If you want to make such comparisons, Elder Scrolls is closer in style to Conan of Cimmeria than to Lord of the Rings.

[@ehizellbob6091]

Already knew about the courtyard bit as a high elf, but I managed it as a dark elf character once too - when they saw me they said something like "wait, you there, show me your face" but I was quick enough to not get stopped by them and they didn't give chase or turn hostile or anything. Thought it was pretty neat.

[@brianschwarm8267]

Exact same thing happens to me as a Breton in thalmor garb when I disguised myself.

[@ImaginaryTerrie3]

That's how you say it? I've been saying Justiciar, "Just a car" this whole time.

[@KellingtonDorkswafer]

It's not just any car... It's a Magic Aldmerian Car...

[@hillmannic]

The thalmor are just trashy cars. Driven by high elven nazis.

[@gr13v0u5]

Probably because of Samara from Mass Effect. I used to do pronounce it like that too.

[@123densmore]

HOW IS THERE STILL THINGS I DIDNT KNOW ABOUT SKYRIM??? I learn something new every time I watch your videos m8.

[@AlexLJ55]

I struggle with the politics of the world alot. I don't understand it

[@paarthurnax2673]

There will always be things you don't know about Skyrim, as in did my horn (check my username I might not be on my alt account of "Paarthurnax") make The Horn of Jurgen Windcaller?

[@Aethuviel]

When my Dunmer Dragonborn dressed up as a Thalmor, first of all, he looked like an idiot, second of all, all the soldiers and justiciars were like "Come here, let me see your face!", flexing their weapons and all. It only held until the middle of the courtyard. I guess I was kind of short.

[@briandipierro8865]

Nate: "I'm pretty sure I'm towards my final days now, though--" Damn that got dark

[@PiousMoltar]

RIP Nate

[@apjtv2540]

I like how the very thing that made Esbern and Delphine such a pain to the Thalmor, their relentless attitude and stubbornness, is the same thing that means we end up hating them later on, when they refuse to let Paarthurnax live.

[@ryanwalker1355]

6th Thing they dont tell ya: Thalmor make great XP farms

[@powerthunfischdesdonners3086]

can confirm. paralysed they make a great trainingsdummy for magic and weapons.

[@jagar5580]

i'm the 70th like so i ruined the number

[@powerthunfischdesdonners3086]

@@jagar5580 found the thalmor.

[@jagar5580]

@@powerthunfischdesdonners3086 found the defective thalmor finder

[@powerthunfischdesdonners3086]

@@jagar5580 better safe ,than sorry.

[@nerfspartanEBF25]

"Thalmor" is a pretty interesting way to misspell "dead" and "trash".

[@Vulpine407]

So true! When I encounter a squad leading a prisoner I always mouth off to them (usually the "You got me, I'm a Talos worshiper" response.) Then I back off a few paces so that the prisoner has a chance to move out of the way. Fus Roh Dah! Then I walk forward, cleave the 1st one from head to groin before they can get up. Let the remaining Thalmor recover and rush towards me. Rinse and repeat. Two hours later at Belathor's General Goods... Me: "Hey Bel, got some more Thalmor stuff for you." Belathor: "I told you to stop calling me "Bel", and I can't take any more Thalmor robes and armor. I already have a storeroom full of the stuff." Me: (puts on mask of Clavicus Vile) "Give me 900 gold for this." Belathor: "....Seems legit."

[@valendrien6517]

Talos is a funny way to spell "low life"

[@Vulpine407]

@@valendrien6517 Actually, there is some truth to that. You have to read a lot of the in-game books to start getting a more rounded picture of what Talos aka Tiber Septim aka Hjalti Early-Beard (yes, before he changed his name to Tiber Septim, that was his name.) There's a lot of argument in the books about what Tiber did or did not do, but it seems there is a lot of documentary and testimonial evidence (but very little demonstrative evidence) that Tiber Septim may have been guilty of quite a few crimes including assassinating his former king (and then becoming emperor with him out of the way) and an illicit affair with a Dunmer princess (Barenziah.) Of course, Skyrim gives you evidence for and against these crimes (and others) so no matter how deep you dig, there is no absolute proof. Still, if he did do some of the crimes he was accused of then, yeah, he was definitely being a low-life at times.

[@thegreatcheese4682]

Indeed I seem to “stumble” upon many beheaded Thalmor laying on the road. Seems they get attacked a lot.

[@beardiemom]

@@Vulpine407 Considering most of their prisoners are stormcloaks, I leave those thalmor squads alone. The traitors to the empire deserve all that's coming to them.

[@opusfluke2354]

"I always thought The Thalmor were just a bunch of intolerant snappy dressers."- Inigo The Brave

[@Tabby3456]

The Epic Nate: The elves are secondary antagonists, though the main questline Me who already killed alduin: *L I A R* !

[@TheMusicalMedic]

As a breton, I tried to wear thalmor robes and failed miserably, they recognized that I wasnt one of them instantly.

[@HjorrStrong-Steel]

You’re a Breton?! No way! A rare race, one must say.

[@AdiG1]

Dominion: We took the capital! The Empire won’t think to come back! [gets murdered to death] High Elves to the player: Stay away from our glory and intellect, peasent!

[@thegodofmischief8141]

😂😂😂

[@tvangelist]

this is classified info you're sharing, nate

[@zenhaelcero8481]

@The Voice Of The Most Powerful God Talos is that you?

[@tvangelist]

@@zenhaelcero8481 talos is a false god. a great hero, yes, but not a god. you silly, silly nords.

[@tvangelist]

@@kamrynturner5232 wrong again, *buddy o' pal*

[@samdiabolos1858]

i have a feeling this god enjoys cheese

[@tvangelist]

@@samdiabolos1858 dairy is good for your bones

[@Sunflower-sn9ij]

Nate "so when the empire striked back" Me "hmm the empire strikes back you say.......seems familiar..."

[@christora1898]

It’s simply amazing how far Nate has come on yt it’s crazy to think I remember watching when he had 10k subs, proof that hard work and dedication does pay off

[@TAndRDInSpace]

11:21 I heard that wearing Thalmor rob red s during Diplomatic Immunity only works if your character is high elf or wood elf. My Nord got attacked while wearing the robes.

[@justnoob8141]

I once did it recently, Thalmor Soldier doesn’t immediately attack, he just screaming you to get closer, which I did with greatsword

[@khajiitkitten5679]

WELL! ABOUT TIME! I've been checking all day to see it there was a new vid! I was getting withdrawal symptoms. I'll just watch it two or three times to really get my fix.

[@redhood4105]

Anyone else hear him say "Desbern and Elphine"😂😂😂

[@q1w2e3621]

+

[@jennamarie1812]

Nate: "*the emperor strikes back"* *_George Lucas wants to know your location_*

[@bloodangel19]

*Disney wants to know your location

[@henrytownshed5304]

Khajiit love Moon sugar

[@ccolorsplit]

In the Thalmor’s defense, Talos (and many other Nord cultural heroes) did many wrongs to the elves. (Think of the Numidium in Summerset, for example.) It makes sense for them to resent Talos, and thus believe he doesn’t deserve worship. Also the Thalmor aren’t a justification for hating Altmer in general. They are Elven Supremacists and do not reflect the opinions of the Altmer at large.

[@waxwinged_hound]

T H A N K

[@MJ-jt5cs]

Exactly. My next playthrough im picking a high elf and killing every thalmor justicar I see just for kicks.

[@majormoron605]

when he said "I shoud be in my final days now" I thought "oh no, pls don´t die on us". Poor choice of words, Nate

[@battlesheep2552]

I don’t see how a Thalmor victory is inevitable when they have a huge disadvantage: Elves have a low birthrate. The Empire is able to replenish it’s ranks much easier than the Dominion, so in the long run, it doesn’t look good for them.

[@KiwiLombax15]

I think I read somewhere that elven birthrate is tied to the population density. "Conditionally fertile" i believe the term was. If there are a lot of elves, they don't have many children. If many elves are going off to war and dying, fertility rates would spike.

[@lukec2004]

@@KiwiLombax15 that's how it worked in history, however Elves prolonged lifespan would mean that their fertility rates wouldn't be as high as those of humans, as well the elves would stay kids longer

[@lukec2004]

@@KiwiLombax15 that's how it worked in history, however Elves prolonged lifespan would mean that their fertility rates wouldn't be as high as those of humans, as well the elves would stay kids longer and as such would not be fit for war

[@rebel8707]

Where is it stated that elves have low birthrates?

[@battlesheep2552]

Rebel i remember it being mentioned in Daggerfall

[@rietoh]

This was one of your better videos, I would like to see you create more general lore videos.

[@ianhowick]

"...I'm towards my final days..." sounds very ominous, bud. You sure you're ok?

[@MichaelOKC]

Thalmor hit squad: "You can't hide from me!" Me: Silently whispering "Keep telling yourself that " as I slowly draw The Blade of Woe across their necks.

[@CMAzeriah]

The Thalmor should be scared. The first leader of every "human" Empire has always been a dragonborn, Saint Alessia, Reman Cyridiil, Tiber Septim, things didn't end well last time the high elves fought a dragon born led empire. I also find it convinient that Titus mede just so happens to die at the same time a dragon born appears.

[@endgamer3000]

Wait, the thalmor told this agent that know one in Skyrim would be smart enough for them to know that he was a agent and act like a officer in a army... wouldn’t he be screwed if we were from the stromcloaks an saw a high elf as a commanding officer?

[@caninelupus8369]

Well if he impersonated an imperial officer for you, he'll be impersonating a stormcloak officer when you come back out, giving orders to a stormcloak who seems fooled.

[@levi_ackerman_119]

@@caninelupus8369 Ulfric did not likes elves. Any elves. Doubt he’d’ve let one get to the rank of officer…

[@szabok1999]

@@caninelupus8369 But he does impersonate a stormcloak for you, if you are on their side. That's the point. He can spawn in both ways, and then when you come out he is in the middle of foolimg an imperial.

[@PunkZombie1300]

@@levi_ackerman_119 Tell that to the high elf dragonborns who join the Stormcloaks lol.

[@whenthemusicsover6028]

The day Nate runs out of things to talk about, will be a sad day indeed.

[@wrongsalvation8904]

I just started another playthrough as a high-elf, I'm so going to do that at the Thalmor Embassy.

[@wrongsalvation8904]

@Cody Allen my character grew up around Thalmor and because of this she despises them. She knows what they're trying to do and she will try to stop it at any cost. And that's why she was captured at the border lol.

[@wrongsalvation8904]

@Cody Allen I have but my headcanon on this play through is a very aggressive one and her starting out as a prisoner is fitting.

[@aidanbacon6097]

Lmao the closest backstory to my characters is that they all look basically the same and like cheese.

[@Ker-f4o]

@@aidanbacon6097 So Ring of Namira, and Wabbajack?

[@ashketchum6222]

I'll play an Altmer in my next playthrough, and I've already got a backstory planned for her. She didn't support the Thalmor ideals but was forced to become a Thalmor soldier against her will. When she was reassigned to Skyrim to accompany a Thalmor Justiciar (like the ones you see wandering around Skyrim in-game), she deserted the first chance she got and killed the Justiciar and freed the prisoner in the process. Turns out killing the Justiciar was a bad idea, because he had the status of a diplomat, and she ended up captured and sentenced to death- her execution is interrupted by none other than Alduin, and that's where her story as the protagonist of Skyrim begins.

[@ElderGodsInc]

Hi Nate. In another one of your videos you talk about a series of corpses we can find in Falkreath that appear to have died without a struggle, as well as the Breton called Woodcutter where you mention he died without struggle and had a mug of mead on a stump nearby. I recently encountered Zaria, the owner of Grave Concoctions in Falkreath, who says her family don't approve of her "interest in lethal poisons and death in general". I suspect she may be a serial killer poisoning people out in the wilderness. I haven't investigated her further, breaking into her house etc, but I think it might be cool to do a segment in one of your Mysteries episodes based around her!

[@DovahkiinQahnaarinStrunduul]

"My mother told me, one day I would buy. Galley's with good oars, sail to distant shores. Sail to distant shores." - Me getting the mighty Stormcloak Army ready to march on Alinor.

[@lautarobriand3621]

The last time I was this early these jokes weren’t popular.

[@DGARedRaven]

Oh! That must've been back in the Merithic Era.

[@codysullivan2721]

69th like

[@Jack-tu5yr]

"Desbern and Eelphine"

[@shagyjay9554]

I was curious I heard that I was confused

[@fortunatefantasy]

Just a curious question... Has anyone tried approaching Captain Valmir in Thalmor Robes?

[@imperialspy8202]

Yes,doesn't end well Edit: for him lol

[@styvie303]

Tiny details: if you skip the diamond city intro with piper and enter through the hidden upper stands, piper won’t talk to you, nor the mayor, but instead the pastor will be outside and greet you and tell you about the paper

[@pilotmanpaul]

*Is wearing a fucking Eldritch Armor from the depths of Hell* Thalmor: This dude probably worships Talos. Lets fuck him up!

[@xxfluffypuff]

Woah I'm early for once, also hi person scrolling through!

[@jaqaunjones9746]

Hello

[@Thoroughly_Wet]

Sup Eat your cereal

[@demondude8354]

Hi

[@eliphas_vlka]

Hi

[@ducksruleflorida4882]

Wazzup, furfag

[@danhandsomeandsome6177]

Question ... Is there a "Mod" available, which allows more thalmore to wonder around Skyrim? I would greatly enjoy this simply to hunt them down.

[@danhandsomeandsome6177]

@Noah Veon Thank you !!!

[@ocefloww]

I want a mod that let's me wipe them out.

[@somm150]

@@ocefloww There’s a mod that allows another Great War and you can fight for the Stormcloaks, Imperials, or Dominion in a voiced quest line.

[@andrewfalk3834]

I love this video 10 times more because he keeps saying “Empire strikes back” (Star wars)

[@darkpaw1522]

Played this game for several years, I'm still discovering new stuff.

[@AmyraCarter]

"Can only visit the Aldmeri Dominion during this one quest" (lockpicking skills say otherwise)

[@lefthook4878]

The front door on the Thalmor embassy can't be picked, and no one you kill outside it or in the barracks has a key. Trust me I tried. I went back to kill everything at the embassy, and couldn't get into the door

[@AmyraCarter]

@@lefthook4878 I hadn't tried, but I seem to recall once, just once, the gate saying that it was a Master level lock. ...Maybe this is bad memory or a glitch, or I dunno.

[@NameThatIsJust]

@@lefthook4878 can’t you enter through the cave you exit?

[@AnyGamer327]

Let’s just acknowledge that the shots were next level in this video

[@ducksruleflorida4882]

5:34 Wait. Why is everyone just... rolling down the street... like a turd... in the wind?

[@PiousMoltar]

Because they didn't have a plan

[@weaverine9400]

What the video should’ve been named: *The Empire Strikes Back* Disney: *copy strikes* “Listen to me; I am the captain now.”

[@goldenknight578]

Isn't Disney run by the Thalmor?

[@HLFlare]

So, "The Empire Struck Back" Great video Nate, Always love tuning in for that fill of lore and wonder you present for us. Thank you for everything ya' do. 🎉🎊

[@misteryman526]

"And they're going to win in the end" Huh. I just don't see that. 'Cause I, as the Dragonborn, pretty much slaughter every living Thalmor in Skyrim while they prance about looking haughty and there's not even a bounty on me for doing it.

[@caninelupus8369]

The massive loss of resources (weapons, armor, personnel, etc.) at our hands alone (if we fight them, which I always do) means that they're weakened and not as powerful as they seem. If/when we join the fight against them in the coming war, there's a real chance that we could turn the tide.

[@mapleflag6518]

@@caninelupus8369 Also perhaps we could get the dragons to aid us.

[@Zamandu]

"The Thalmor just kinda forgot that the Empire was a threat"

[@GenericUsername-qp1ww]

They're not much of a threat anymore

[@fumarc4501]

The Thalmor were actively looking for any powerful magical items, spells, or knowledge they could use for the upcoming 2nd Great War. The Empire isn’t shy about it either. One putts threatened my College after I fixed a dwemer map device.

[@MoltenUprisingMK]

My greatest fear is if they found out about the Dwemer's creation, the Aetherium Forge. That would lead to utter catastrophe.

[@Jimmyinvictus]

Nate, hope you feel better soon! All these years and I never knew about dressing in Thalmor robes; holy crap.:-) Kirkbride's take on the Thalmor is quite interesting; I know he's a point of contention among TES fans (some love him, others not so much). I'll not spoil the details here, but according to Kirkbride, the Thalmor want to end Mundus, and erase the very idea of "Men" (hence their religious crusade against Talos) so Men can never exist again. There's a great deal more to the scenario, but I won't get into it further. Im also wondrring if the Thalmor will be appearing in TES 6; Nazi mer make such a goid villain faction.

[@TranForsythe]

Surprised he didn't mention the Oblivion DLC (knights of the nine) having to do with Umaril the Unfeathered - which is one of the only times Talos has played a pivotal role, post-ascension.

[@mydeerestdivine]

me: no fear michael kirkbride: they're going to win in the end. me: one (1) fear

[@Wolf-sc6jg]

Its crazy to me that after years of playing skyrim theirs still so much that i dont know about it. It just goes to show how deep skyrims lore is and how much game development there is

[@dejavu8982]

"The Imperials think we need their laws. Pfft!"

[@jagar5580]

"BAH"

[@DovahkiinQahnaarinStrunduul]

"The Imperials think us all lawless beasts. I'm proof of their ignorance."

[@xandan1668]

I have a mountain of thalmor bodies to go with all the raider bodies that i keep in the lake at nuka world.

[@AFN2750]

I love the fact that the world is so big that regardless of how much one knows, one has no clue as to some of the most basic questions

[@gabrieldiasheyjoe]

Nate: When the Empire stroke back... Ooo looks like a missed opportunity

[@dovahkiin420blazeit9]

17:48 Desbern and Elphine 😂😂

[@youreden815]

Dovahkiin 420blazeit glad i wasn’t the only one who realised 😂

[@niranjanmachhi]

"Yellow little thumbs" Would the thalmor consider this as racist maybe? Hmm...Just a thought...

[@tippiebekfast]

Well if they do they're hypocrites just saying

[@braeduin]

[pulls the tops of my ears up] - yOu LoOk LiKe A hErEtIc

[@deployedkitty]

Elder Scrolls lore: "hundreds of thousands of Thalmor soldiers occupied the Imperial City" Oblivion Imperial City population count (excluding guards): 194 I wish these games didn't seem to depopulated.

[@stevenseagal9911]

Been feeling more and more depopulated since Morrowind

[@ArturoPladeado]

@@stevenseagal9911 In Elder Scrolls 6 the biggest city is going to contain 5 in a half people. On a side not due to Microsoft buying Bethesda and Bethesda supposedly giving a proper overhaul to they're engine and the fact that they should no longer have impatient, greedy shareholders breathing down they're necks the cities in Elder Scrolls 6 might be fairly big.

[@jacobdelatorre9147]

@@ArturoPladeado I just hope the size of the cities could be something more like the last Assassin's Creed games

[@kmstirpitz4285]

Dragonborn: The Thane of every hold, slain Miraak, Harkon, and Alduin. Literally the most powerful person in Skyrim. Random thief on road: HAND OVER YOUR VALUABLES OR I'LL GUT YOU LIKE A FISH.

[@TheMercyfulEmperor]

Finally a nice video about the Good Guys in TES V!