Who are the Ethnic Greeks of Mariupol and Ukraine?

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@elliottprats1910
@elliottprats1910 2 жыл бұрын
I school I was told that any town ending in “pol” was very likely to be Greek - since the “pol” means town in Greek.
@NIDELLANEUM
@NIDELLANEUM 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly, a renmant of the word "polis"
@PepeTheFrog88
@PepeTheFrog88 2 жыл бұрын
there is also a town named Melitopol, it's not so far from Mariupol. I believe it translates as "honey town". Also, it's very widely known in Ukraine as a capital of sweet cherries. We love to eat it every year, and all of them are sweet as hell
@ΒασίλειοςΜαυρομμάτης-π2ψ
@ΒασίλειοςΜαυρομμάτης-π2ψ 2 жыл бұрын
the pol thing in UKR is actually a Catherine invention, she had the cities in and around Ottoman Crimea renamed in order to destabilize the empire and then relocated plenty of Greeks around. Such a pity to keep seeing the proud Pontic Greek race being dragged around the Black Sea, used from every country, empire, race or minority without any real support from the official Greek state.
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
Polis means city. Metropolis means ''mother-city'' and applied to the original city of the various Greek colonists.
@JesusChristDenton_7
@JesusChristDenton_7 2 жыл бұрын
Interpol.
@kazakhdoge1822
@kazakhdoge1822 2 жыл бұрын
There are around 8 thousand ethnic Greeks living in Kazakhstan, "thanks" to Stalin.
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he literally used Kazakhstan as a dumpster for ethnic minorities. I wonder had he not been Georgian would he have done the same to Georgians.
@kazakhdoge1822
@kazakhdoge1822 2 жыл бұрын
@@olbiomoiros Somewhat unlikely, as it was mostly smaller ethnic groups who were deported (i.e. less than 500,000 inhabitants).
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 жыл бұрын
@@kazakhdoge1822 yeah you’re right. Georgian weren’t really a minority, as they were a majority in the Georgian ssr
@theodorekatostitsa2208
@theodorekatostitsa2208 2 жыл бұрын
They are lucky you have the hotest women
@thesoundinyourhead1782
@thesoundinyourhead1782 2 жыл бұрын
@TK Stalin sent them along with many Germans, polish, Turkish
@alovernighter
@alovernighter 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I remember coming as a child to buy dairy from a Greek family in Donetsk.. They used to arrive to our neighborhood every Saturday from a village near Mariupol and sell their farm-made products in our community yard.. Everything they produced was so tasty: from salty cottage cheese to fresh milk and bread. Sadly, they were probably unable to continue their business since 2014 as the 2 cities became separated by a demarcation line. I don't know what happened to them though: I haven't been at home for 8 years already :(
@Harsh-tf9he
@Harsh-tf9he 2 жыл бұрын
@Joscha Wexler you just said it twice tho
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@aspalathossplit3001
@aspalathossplit3001 2 жыл бұрын
Greeks for 3000 years. Not even Stalin exterminated them 🇬🇷💙
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@RustedCroaker
@RustedCroaker 4 ай бұрын
Why should he?
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 2 ай бұрын
Well he didn't want to
@Siomn779nil
@Siomn779nil 2 ай бұрын
Becouse is every one does ...​@@RustedCroaker
@Siomn779nil
@Siomn779nil 2 ай бұрын
​@@RustedCroakerjust look to thd greeks of asia minor ...
@allofthatgoodstuff380
@allofthatgoodstuff380 2 жыл бұрын
I'm a Canadian Ukrainian with those Greek roots. Kinda surreal seeing videos on this topic spring up on youtube now
@jordythebassist
@jordythebassist 2 жыл бұрын
Pontic as well? My family are Pontian without the Ukraine connection, Greek Australians as of the 1960s or so
@JGS2024
@JGS2024 2 жыл бұрын
Pain and loss of past errant generations haunt the future. It surfaces to our conscience any time there is a crack to this invention called ethnic and national states.
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@Veriox22
@Veriox22 2 жыл бұрын
Greek here. Unfortunately, the greeks of ukraine have suffered very much from this war. After the destruction of Mariupol, all of the greek cultural heritage sites, libraries, centers are ruined. The greeks of Mariupol have fleed their homeland and they are trying to escape to either other Ukrainian cities or Greece. Sadly, our government does little to help them. Peace!
@istyl2525
@istyl2525 2 жыл бұрын
As a crimean greek I can confirm that even before the war greek heritage sites have been slowly degraded, back when Crimea was Ukraine there was an archive in Simferopol dedicated for greeks to learn about their family history, good and bad, but conveniently when russia took over in 2014 parts of the archive that had to do with NKVD and the pogroms was hidden and made inaccessible to the public, probably to erase history that made them look bad.
@TheFivetimesdead
@TheFivetimesdead 2 жыл бұрын
@@304Hibachi I wouldn't trust a guy who goes openly with Russian troops. The situation in Mariupol is horrible of course.
@jjdelft3216
@jjdelft3216 2 жыл бұрын
@@304Hibachi Bro Patrick Lancaster is RT's pet. He is thé go to "journalist" for pro Russian channels, so I doubt that he is trustworthy.
@RGC-gn2nm
@RGC-gn2nm 2 жыл бұрын
@@304Hibachi what? incomplete sentences
@ninja-gaming8988
@ninja-gaming8988 2 жыл бұрын
@@304Hibachi Patrick Lancaster is a propagandist and his content is all fake
@ilias8972
@ilias8972 2 жыл бұрын
I studied Russian language for some years. One of the teachers was a woman born in Crimea during USSR. She was Greek and spoke Greek. She told me that during USSR there were many Greeks there but after its fall many left for Greece.
@eliass8118
@eliass8118 2 жыл бұрын
Ηλίας
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 2 жыл бұрын
Clearly it was smart to leave Maripol. More Greeks should of left for Ukraine. I feel sad and sorry for the Greeka and Ukrainians.
@safuwanfauzi5014
@safuwanfauzi5014 2 жыл бұрын
@@noahtylerpritchett2682 Greek lost land to Turkey a lot. even Cyprus cut half, in future turkey plan to bring more Turkish settler from mainland, 90 million turkish and just 11m Greeks, turkey start to used israel styles to made Cyprus Turkish majority.
@tasshznoclue1006
@tasshznoclue1006 2 жыл бұрын
what have iranic people done???
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
Sooner or later You will claim aII Orthodox people on Earth as Ethnic Greeks. Smh
@developer3406
@developer3406 Жыл бұрын
As a Mariupolitan Greek, I want to express my gratitude to you for creating this historical video. I wish there were more KZbinrs like you who could popularize our culture, especially the Tauro-Romaik Greeks.
@southface6684
@southface6684 2 жыл бұрын
The well-known and famous city of Yalta comes from the Greek word Gialos which means sandy beach! The city is located on the site of the ancient Greek colony of Yalita. It is said to have been founded by the Greek settlers who were looking for a safe shore (Γιαλός, yalos in Greek) on which to land
@annavsmith1
@annavsmith1 2 жыл бұрын
ΑΙΓΙΑΛΟΣ ΓΙΑΛΤΑ YALTA
@annavsmith1
@annavsmith1 2 жыл бұрын
Odyssos from Odysseus Ulysses
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@kleparaskevas2628
@kleparaskevas2628 2 жыл бұрын
Δεν ηξερα οτι η Γιαλτα ηταν ελληνικη πολη και το ονομα προερχεται απο το ΓΙΑΛΟΣ.
@kotsaris87
@kotsaris87 2 жыл бұрын
@@annavsmith1 OdEssos - absolutely no connection with Odysseus
@Nicky-IIII
@Nicky-IIII 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an Australian whose father was born in Greece..His parents were actually born in the Black Sea region of Turkey (Anatolia).. We are classified as Pontic Greeks though we never spoke Pontic in my household. Though I know many Pontic Greek songs off by heart because my father was a greek musician.. So we were always aware of our roots though i always felt it was somewhat archaic and cryptic.. Just a very interesting feeling, knowing we have these roots though unable to track down the facts due to the Greek refuge crisis and the forced marches out of Anatolia.. Long Live the Caucasian Greeks 🙏 and much love to our fellow kin from all around the lands :)
@ΧρηστοςΓεωργιου-λ1γ
@ΧρηστοςΓεωργιου-λ1γ 2 жыл бұрын
Χαιρετίσματα από Ελλάδα.
@moderndemon84
@moderndemon84 2 жыл бұрын
You are Greek,not Australian.
@costenics_sw
@costenics_sw 2 жыл бұрын
You are Greek , not an Australian bro!🇬🇷❤️😁
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
@@costenics_sw Is Greek a bIood or a certificate ?
@artemiosGalaxy
@artemiosGalaxy 2 жыл бұрын
Yea
@paulturner9542
@paulturner9542 2 жыл бұрын
One of the amazing thing about Greeks no matter what part of the world they live, whether they speak Koine, Pontic, Cypriot, Cappadocian, Griko etc, they are still Greek. Even if they don’t speak it, or just phrases/words have crossed over into the current languages they speak. An amazing history.
@vitgrin
@vitgrin 2 жыл бұрын
I'm Ukrainian, my grandfather on my father's side he was a Pontic Greeks. he dreamed of seeing Greece, but he died back in the days of the Iron Curtain
@kolotoubas5689
@kolotoubas5689 2 жыл бұрын
I am sorry to hear he never visited his motherland! Greetings from an other Pontic greek 🇬🇷🇺🇦
@kostalakis
@kostalakis 2 жыл бұрын
You must make the journey to Greece in his place , he will be with you when you go I am sure.
@giorikas1982
@giorikas1982 2 жыл бұрын
You cannot be ukrainian if your grandfather from your fathers side was Pontic Greek. You are also Pontic Greek. We are not Jews)
@giorikas1982
@giorikas1982 2 жыл бұрын
@@kolotoubas5689 Just to inform you that all Pontic Greeks who lived in USSR and came to Greece support Russia))🇬🇷🇷🇺Σωστα λεγω σε νεπε))
@haneenzxcv
@haneenzxcv 2 жыл бұрын
@@giorikas1982 If all other their relatives are Ukrainian, who are they then, if not Ukrainian?
@JibAcademy2010
@JibAcademy2010 2 жыл бұрын
Always wanted to learn more of the history of Greeks in Ukraine. You should do a video on the the ethnic groups in Zakarpattia. Very diverse area in western Ukraine. Has a unique history apart from the rest of Ukraine.
@xntumrfo9ivrnwf
@xntumrfo9ivrnwf 2 жыл бұрын
I never really wanted to learn about the history of Greeks in Ukraine, but the video was awesome nonetheless!
@frenzalrhomb6919
@frenzalrhomb6919 2 жыл бұрын
I think you may actually mean the Zaporizhzhia Oblast (I think it's "region") in the Ukraine. From what I understand, it something like "the rapids" or " beyond the rapids." But perhaps a native speaker might correct me if I'm wrong.
@Taxolia
@Taxolia 2 жыл бұрын
Funny enough, I'm a Greek Russian myself I was living a small village in donetsk, Styla
@commanderadam1835
@commanderadam1835 2 жыл бұрын
@@frenzalrhomb6919 zakarpathia is on the Western corner of ukraine it belonged to czechoslovakia before ww2 try to google it
@satanatural9089
@satanatural9089 2 жыл бұрын
West of Ukraine in general has a big history, from constant fighting in volyn, to all kinds of minorities including subcultures of Ukrainians in karpaty
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
In 1988 Soviet Ukraine the Greek poet and composer Donat Patrycha, from the Pryazovia village Maloianysol founded by Greek immigrants, first organized “Méga Giortí”(“The Big Holiday”) - a festival celebrating Greek culture.
@michaeltnk1135
@michaeltnk1135 2 жыл бұрын
A video about the Calabrian Greeks would also be interesting
@mig7290
@mig7290 2 жыл бұрын
There are also Ukrainian/Russian Italians mostly from Puglia. Most would have Greek ancestry too. Fascinating.
@patrik421
@patrik421 2 жыл бұрын
Tony Bennett's family is from a Greek-speaking village near Reggio di Calabria. There are also Byzantine-rite Albanians in Sicily and Southern Italy; like my cousins' family from the town of Greci.
@hermespsychopompos8267
@hermespsychopompos8267 2 жыл бұрын
The president ( ceremonial role ) of Greece finally visited Southern Italy. About time. That bitch the only right thing she did.
@jimmyj1969
@jimmyj1969 2 жыл бұрын
@@patrik421 "Byzantine-rite Albanians" in Greece are called "Arvanites" (albanian-speaking people of greek-orthodox denomination). Their population is dominant in some greek areas, especially in southern Greece (like east Central Greece or even Attica region, outside Athens) and also in few Aegean islands.
@patrik421
@patrik421 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyj1969 Arbereshe is what they are called in Italy. Probably from the same root.
@EOKAWarrior
@EOKAWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
There's 100,000-120,000 Greeks in Mariupol and its surrounding villages alone, as confirmed by the Greek government. The estimates of Greeks in Crimea and Odessa are MUCH higher then you gave as well.
@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων
@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων 2 жыл бұрын
Rightly said!
@thanostsalas3785
@thanostsalas3785 2 жыл бұрын
The greek govt might just be overestimating as well.
@reanimationeas342
@reanimationeas342 2 жыл бұрын
That would be extremely debatable
@koggas230
@koggas230 Жыл бұрын
they are less now thanks to Azov nazis trying to genocide them but thank God Chechens saved them
@johnm2197
@johnm2197 2 жыл бұрын
The Greeks of Ukraine, of Donetsk, Donbass, of Mariupol are Salt of the Earth. There are 150 000 folk still in the city and they are the foundation of the revival and rebuilding of this beautiful City and Hellenic Culture 🕯️
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
You are out of your mind.
@johnm2197
@johnm2197 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 eh? They are already coming back govno. Are you out of yours?
@leonidasvasilakos5160
@leonidasvasilakos5160 2 жыл бұрын
130000 ethnik Greeks live in Ukraine. Around 80000 in Donbas, especially in Marioupol
@johnm2197
@johnm2197 2 жыл бұрын
@@leonidasvasilakos5160 I heard 150 000 in Mariupol alone. However with intermarriage the folks there and Ukraine who have Greek Ancestry is many. Culturally the Greek influence is enormous.
@leonidasvasilakos5160
@leonidasvasilakos5160 2 жыл бұрын
@@johnm2197 Indeed
@dimitris.9115
@dimitris.9115 2 жыл бұрын
As a greek historian i can say that your video is very accurate and surprisingly detailed . Great job sir !!
@cedricmomjian2129
@cedricmomjian2129 2 жыл бұрын
Armenians and Greeks are brothers forever❤️🇬🇷🇦🇲
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 2 жыл бұрын
We are 🇬🇷💙🇦🇲
@SHI死-s8n
@SHI死-s8n 2 жыл бұрын
I always love this peaceful country armenia
@mattvl6023
@mattvl6023 2 жыл бұрын
Ζήτω η Αρμενία , long live Armenia from 🇬🇷
@hygkgjk
@hygkgjk 2 жыл бұрын
Ukrainians love you ethics Greek Armenian Jewis and another small ethics group in Ukraine
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 2 жыл бұрын
@@hygkgjk You are heroes 🇬🇷💙🇺🇦✌✌, 🤮🇷🇺🤮
@pogolas
@pogolas 2 жыл бұрын
My father, met someone in a train (in 70’ USSR)When they found out, that they were both Greeks, they tried to discuss in greek. But my father, a Pontian Greek, couldn’t understand a word. So I guess, the guy, was an Urum Mariupol Greek.
@RM668
@RM668 2 жыл бұрын
Amazing
@damouno
@damouno 2 жыл бұрын
Different 'Greek' Dialects. i guess :)
@jimmyj1969
@jimmyj1969 2 жыл бұрын
Pontian greek dialect contains many ancient greek linguistic elements and it''s very difficult for a modern greek speaker to understand it (apart from some words or phrases). Therefore, it was no wonder they couldn't communicate well!
@pogolas
@pogolas 2 жыл бұрын
@jimmyj1969 some elements, yes. But the Turkish language, influenced the Pontian dialect, more. They couldn’t understand each other, probably because the other guy, spoke Urum (Turkic) language. He was a Crimean Greek.
@KRYPTIA-mp4ol
@KRYPTIA-mp4ol 2 жыл бұрын
@@jimmyj1969 its not difficult at all to understand it
@bernardppsh1457
@bernardppsh1457 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting i have greek blood and im from sourthern spain with seemingly no connection to greece they really did expand over the south europe,northern africa and the black sea
@DecontructRecreate
@DecontructRecreate 2 жыл бұрын
Ancient Greeks were known seafarers and would colonize almost all the Mediterranean. This has been in our school curriculum for a very long time.
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
May be they are floating on the space to, or may be the wind is blowing them of. We just don't see them since they are invisible.
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 2 жыл бұрын
Southern Spain had Greeks
@Chris-sn4ux
@Chris-sn4ux 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 Keep larping
@phosphorusdaemon7
@phosphorusdaemon7 2 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Greek_colonisation
@Astuar
@Astuar 2 жыл бұрын
There was also a big greekophylia in russian empire in 18-19 centaury. All the names like Mariupol, Sevastopol, Melitopol, Odesa etc are greek influenced.
@christos3280
@christos3280 2 жыл бұрын
You are right except for Odessa, which was an old colony from Greeks themselves
@easytiger6570
@easytiger6570 2 жыл бұрын
Mariupol was given a greek name because Katherine the Great deported a lot of Greeks there
@Astuar
@Astuar 2 жыл бұрын
@@christos3280 im reading Wikipedia right now. It's says there was an greek colony in BC times but with another name. Later there stood ottoman-tatar fortress which was renamed Odesa by Russian Empire. Also there was ancient Greek colony in modern Bulgaria with the name of Odessos, and important Byzantine city (biblical importanse) in North Syria called Edessa. So I guess Russia Empire they just liked the name.
@christos3280
@christos3280 2 жыл бұрын
@@Astuar Oh you're right I meant Chersonesus
@ab1858
@ab1858 2 жыл бұрын
Orome does not come from Turkish. It comes from the Arabic "الروم" pronounced as "Ar-Room" and transliterated as "Ar-Rum". There is a full chapter (Chapter 30) in the Muslim Holy Book the Quran called Ar-Rum I.e the Romans in which it is prophesized that the Romans will defeat the Persians. The begining of Surah (Chapter) 30 goes like this: "Alif-Lam-Mim (1) The Romans have been defeated (2) in a nearby land. Yet following their defeat, they will triumph (3) within "Bidh'a" (a few) years. The whole matter rests with Allah before and after ˹victory˺. And on that day the believers will rejoice (4). This Surah (Chapter 30) was revealed after the Arab Polytheists rejoiced and gloated when the Persians defeated the Romans. Islam considers Christians (Romans in this case) People of the Book (Scripture) just like Muslims and the Persians as Polytheists. So Arab Polytheists mocked the Muslims and said our Gods defeated your "One God; God of Scriptue". During 611-623 the Persians had the upper hand and by 623 AD the Persians drove the Romans out of Syria, Palestine, Egypt and Rhodes and entered Anatolia. But in 627 the Romans crushed the Persians at the battle of "Nineveh" and the Muslims rejoiced in this Roman victory. Note: The Arabic word "Bidh'a" refers to a time period between 3 and 9 years. So, the prophecy did come true.
@LebaneseAtHeart
@LebaneseAtHeart 2 жыл бұрын
Love 💖 Greece 🇬🇷 from Lebanon 🇱🇧 My 2nd favourite country 😁 🇱🇧 💕 🇬🇷
@stephmod7434
@stephmod7434 2 жыл бұрын
Love Phoenecians from Greece too! Also wahts your first favourite country?
@LebaneseAtHeart
@LebaneseAtHeart 2 жыл бұрын
@@stephmod7434 Thank you 😊 💖 My favorite is Italy 🇮🇹 😁
@stephmod7434
@stephmod7434 2 жыл бұрын
@@LebaneseAtHeart Οκ!
@cbrtdgh4210
@cbrtdgh4210 2 жыл бұрын
Filiki Eteria - the movement for Greek Independence from the Ottomans, was founded in Odessa in 1814.
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and at the time other Ukrainians in Odessa gave information to the ottomans about them
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
**Greek lndepedence should be called the creation of Greece, since there was no such thing as Greece before that.
@NK-dj7no
@NK-dj7no 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 yes, that's right. And right at that point, they somehow created people that spoke Greek. what are tou talking about? the fact that there was no Greek state before that does not mean there were no people speaking Greek. Your theory makes no sense
@cbrtdgh4210
@cbrtdgh4210 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 then there was no China either. Which is correct if we think about the modern states
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
@@cbrtdgh4210 I'm waiting for the next time when the Sumerians get their independence from Iraq or the Trojans forming their owns state in Turkey.
@nikolasvenetidis9608
@nikolasvenetidis9608 2 жыл бұрын
As a Pontic Greek this was a very good video :)
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@geo322242
@geo322242 2 жыл бұрын
Being Greek I am happy to see this video and one part of our history I am proud of is that ancient Greeks were expanding by building cities and ports and not conquest and killings. They saw them mostly as trading cities with locals and thrived through trade. Another famous Greek city is Marseille that I would like to visit. Wish you all a great day
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων
@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων 2 жыл бұрын
Massalia-Marseille also Boullabaise-Kakavià
@Bacopa68
@Bacopa68 2 жыл бұрын
Every port city in the US has Greeks, but pretty cool to present that Greeks in the old days controlled the Black Sea. The closest Greek Orthodox church near me has a side chapel for Russians and Ukrainians. Some local Russians in Texas join with the Syrian Church. The service is half in English and half in Arabic.
@thesagem
@thesagem 2 жыл бұрын
The romanian orthodox church near me has a lot of Ethiopians. Been a while since I've been.
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
"Every port city in the US has Greeks, Greeks in the old days controlled the Black Sea." This is utter bs, I need sources where you got this bizzare info from.
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 well the greeks did have control over the black sea with the kingdom if pontus
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
@@wankawanka3053 Greek control black sea ?? Lmao we can't even peaceful swim in the agean with out Nato guarding us and you're talking bout controlling an oversea thousands of miles away ?
@olgaath1511
@olgaath1511 2 жыл бұрын
On Sunday I was in Dallas Tx and visited the Holy Trinity Greek orthodox church, so beautiful, felt like I was in Greece!
@ИгорьС-б1б
@ИгорьС-б1б 2 жыл бұрын
I was raised in Mariupol and in my class at school we had one Greek guy, one Russian guy, two Armenian girls and several people of mixed origin, seeing what's happening to my city now is devastating
@danielborza4399
@danielborza4399 2 жыл бұрын
As far as I know, when the Russians conquered the Novorossiya region, they planed to establish connections with the Greek, because they wanted to destroy the Ottomans and revive the Byzantine Empire. In the process they gave Greek sounding names to the newly founded cities, like Mariupol, Melitopol, Tiraspol, Odessa, Simferopol, Sevastopol, Kherson. Then encouraged Greek settlement as well.
@MyPrideFlag
@MyPrideFlag 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting, didn't know that. These cities indeed sound Greek.
@jedowampo5431
@jedowampo5431 2 жыл бұрын
Yes, under the Russian Empire, the Greeks in Mariupol and the settlements close to it lived well. But after the formation of Soviet power, especially in the 1930s, the Russians staged repression, deportation and assimilation of the Greeks (they forced them to speak Russian). I lived in Kazakhstan, in the city of Karaganda, there are many Greeks there, as they were massively exiled to concentration camps
@JohnDoe-yn7gm
@JohnDoe-yn7gm 2 жыл бұрын
Yes and NO, Russian Rules like to use the fakt that Russian and Greek belong to Orthodoxy. So they pretend to be the Guardian of Orthodoxy among the enslaved Greek population under the Othomans. In trought they are searching opportunity to get in open See. To became the so call "Thrird Rome" by blowing the Turks out and " Liberated the Eastern Roman Imperium" Fakt is they never wand to help the Romioi= Greeks. They make everything to avoid that Greece get teritories liberated northt from Thessalia. Russian leaders are not friedns of Greek . USA Europe are in this point even worse. Russia Orthodox People like Greeks people but only they. Russia will start a War withe Nato/USA and with Turkey. They will destroy Turks and many Europian Countrys, unfortunately they will delete them, Poland Baltic, Skandinavian countries, Georgia, Turkey.... The world have no Idea wats is going on. They think a couple thousend dead people in Ukraine this is horiblle. Unfortunately it will be many Billion dead People. Jesus Save us all. We are lost.
@channel_abc123_
@channel_abc123_ 2 жыл бұрын
There is no novorossiya region
@MyPrideFlag
@MyPrideFlag 2 жыл бұрын
@@channel_abc123_ But there was. I don't think he was refererring to the current situation. When Catherine conquered what is now Ukraine from the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth and Crimean Khanate, she called it that. Putin would like to do the same but he will fail
@vstrom650gr
@vstrom650gr 2 жыл бұрын
Greek here. Great and awesome video as always. But can you make a video about the Calabrian Hellenic population under Mussolini's rule, I'm curious about their perspective of WWII. And the Dodecanese Greeks too.
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
There are some old interviews from those veterans on youtube.
@vstrom650gr
@vstrom650gr 2 жыл бұрын
@@joek600 can you send me a link?
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
@@vstrom650gr I will if I find it, its on youtube, looked like interviews done in the 80's
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@adamorick2872
@adamorick2872 2 жыл бұрын
The greek ethnicity are the true natives as the Greek colonies where the original colonizers in any sustainable numbers to the region. However multiple invasions eventually destroyed thier numbers
@marknum545
@marknum545 2 жыл бұрын
bs, ukraine was settled for thousands of years by different ethnic groups, greeks are a part of that large pool
@CMR10500
@CMR10500 2 жыл бұрын
@@marknum545 well lets just say that Greeks were even before those last thousands of years there and back then neither Ukrainian nor Russian identities had even a name.
@marknum545
@marknum545 2 жыл бұрын
@@CMR10500 so you want to tell me that the greeks where there before the yamnaya culture?
@Iskatel.Priklyucheniy
@Iskatel.Priklyucheniy 2 жыл бұрын
@@marknum545 yamnaya not slavic adidas
@marknum545
@marknum545 2 жыл бұрын
@@Iskatel.Priklyucheniy I didn‘t say they were
@alansmithee8831
@alansmithee8831 2 жыл бұрын
Hello Hilbert. This was interesting as I knew the Greeks had been there from history for ancient wargames, but I had no idea where these communities had gone after that. I assumed they would be assimilated, like the Anglo Saxons you mentioned from the Varangian guard in an earlier video. Let us hope they can keep out of danger as best as circumstances allow.
@stkosta2482
@stkosta2482 2 жыл бұрын
As you heard in the video he said many times that Greeks migrated from Greece to Ukraine, so you are actually right that the Greeks who lived there were assimilated like the Anglo-Saxons and all Greeks there (or 99.999999%) of them have no connection to the Medieaval kingdom of Pontus.
@GR3G0
@GR3G0 2 жыл бұрын
Greeks don't get assimilated Greeks assimilate... Ask the Romans!!!
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 2 жыл бұрын
There were whole cities of Greeks, not just a guard
@alansmithee8831
@alansmithee8831 2 жыл бұрын
@@aokiaoki4238 The Varangians were mentioned in a previous video as they were primarily Viking and later Anglo Danish. Hilbert said the ones that fled the Normans after Hastings were settled in Crimea by the Byzantines and joked that UK had prior claim on the area.
@HannahHäggAutisticTransWoman
@HannahHäggAutisticTransWoman 2 жыл бұрын
Chersonesus was a greek city in what is today sevastopol, it got sacked by mongols in 1299. It was last mentioned 1396. It seems to have been abandoned until 1783 when it was resetaled as Sevastopol.
@deankruse2891
@deankruse2891 2 жыл бұрын
all of the black sea settlements are greek in origin. Greek and scythian
@eaglemars6123
@eaglemars6123 2 жыл бұрын
Hersonesus means "peninsula" in Greek
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 жыл бұрын
Surprising how the Greek government has committed to help rebuild them.
@stelios-1821
@stelios-1821 2 жыл бұрын
As a Greek I am not expecting much because the last decades, all of the Greek governments did not focus on ethnic Greeks within Greece itselft but open the borders to all kinds of peoples from all over the world.
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
Frankly the Greek government did basically nothing except empty gestures. There were instances were Greek refugees and citizens of Mariupol were shut down while one interview, when they said that they were bombed by the Russians and at the same time held hostage by the Azov in order to become human shields. I guess their testimony didnt flow in the current comic book narrative with Good vs Evil, when in reality there is no good guy in this story.
@user-rk5cu5tg2g
@user-rk5cu5tg2g 2 жыл бұрын
@LeoTheBritish-Eurasian Nope, greeks support russia
@idizzzful
@idizzzful 2 жыл бұрын
Hope our government will fulfill its promise and rebuild this hospital now that Russia took control of Mariupol
@ΘΑΝΟΣΠΑΠΑΣΩΤΗΡΑΚΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ
@ΘΑΝΟΣΠΑΠΑΣΩΤΗΡΑΚΟΠΟΥΛΟΣ 2 жыл бұрын
@@user-rk5cu5tg2g no we simply distrust murica because of salt from one time we had a military coup and ended up splitting Cyprus with turkey because the second dictator was stupid the war started because Cyprus tried to join greece and did a coup and Turkey invaded to stop it and no one did anything serious to stop it
@expandedhistory
@expandedhistory 2 жыл бұрын
My doctor told me I only had 10 min to live and that I should spend that time with my family. I told him Hilbert uploaded a video. Now we’re watching this video together.
@nerrler5574
@nerrler5574 2 жыл бұрын
3 mintues and counting
@joshuataylor3550
@joshuataylor3550 2 жыл бұрын
RIP
@joeywheelerii9136
@joeywheelerii9136 2 жыл бұрын
He dead
@unilajamuha91
@unilajamuha91 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace king
@ventedbus4917
@ventedbus4917 2 жыл бұрын
Rest in peace bro
@stevejohnson3357
@stevejohnson3357 2 жыл бұрын
That was fascinating. It's a little like going to 1 of the Alexandrias of central Asia and finding they still spoke Greek.
@hirdbarding3399
@hirdbarding3399 2 жыл бұрын
We have few Alexandrias in Ukraine too. but, sadly, they were named after another opressing russian tzar
@1234a-z3j
@1234a-z3j 2 жыл бұрын
Some Greeks still exist in the ancient cities of Central Asia
@ВладимирКостенко-ъ4в
@ВладимирКостенко-ъ4в 2 жыл бұрын
Im from the South of Russia, from Kuban region, mostly from Kuban Cossacks. But my GrandGrandMother was a Pontiac Greek from this region too. So Im 1/8 Greek. I do know a lot about my Cossack Anscestors from the late 18 century, on all lines. But I dont know anything about my Greek Anscestors. Everything that I know about my GrandGrandMa is her name and that she was a doughter of the wealthy enough mercant. I'll try to find more about my Greek roots.
@es8994
@es8994 2 жыл бұрын
Well, I am pontic Greek who was born in Kuban region, Krasnodarski Krai but besides my pontic ancestry I have also 1/8 russian ancestry from my russian great-grandmother. Greetings 👋
@ВладимирКостенко-ъ4в
@ВладимирКостенко-ъ4в 2 жыл бұрын
@@es8994 Where are you from, which place? My GrandGrandMa had died at the age of 96 after TheWWII, in 1940-s. She was not from Kuban Region. She was from Stavropol. Near enough, but not Kuban. Im going to visit this place this summer if we'll not meet in the Nuke paradise. BTW, my Greek roots have some strange affect on my facial features. A lot of other Russians, especially those, who are not from Kuban, do think that Im not a Russian. Im 184cm, fair hair, blue yes, but for them I still dont look like a typical Russian. So Im going to check the Archives in Stavropol and to meet my very far relatives there.
@ВладимирКостенко-ъ4в
@ВладимирКостенко-ъ4в 2 жыл бұрын
My first achivements in this story. About my Pontic Greek Roots. The history of my GrandGrandMa, who died at the late 1940-s at the age of 96 is a fake story, a myth, spreading by our relatives. My gandDAd who was born in 1906 and died on my arms in 1991 couldnt be the sun of the woman about 50 years in 1906. And he was 1/2 Greek. And he had a look like a typical Greek. Now my children will be helping me too. We will find out The History of our Greek anscestours.
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
@@ВладимирКостенко-ъ4в i own a greco black sean friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account i might know your pontic side
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
The city was founded in 1778 as Pavlovsk, on the site of a former Cossack encampment. It was renamed Mariupol in 1779 to honour Maria Fyodorovna, In 1780 the city’s population grew rapidly after a large number of Greeks from the Crimean Peninsula were resettled there. In 1882 it was connected by rail to the Donets Basin a The city was renamed Zhdanov in 1948 for Andrey Aleksandrovich Zhdanov,
@304Hibachi
@304Hibachi 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir. Very informative.
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
@@304Hibachi your welcome
@JohnDoe-yn7gm
@JohnDoe-yn7gm 2 жыл бұрын
Yes right , greeks from Taurida (ancient name of Crimea) should make please to Russian population, so they resettled them in a new pleace....Marioupolis
@johnm2197
@johnm2197 2 жыл бұрын
It was Greeks who built the modern city in 1788.
@ab1858
@ab1858 2 жыл бұрын
Orome does not come from Turkish. It comes from the Arabic "الروم" pronounced as "Ar-Room" and transliterated as "Ar-Rum". There is a full chapter (Chapter 30) in the Muslim Holy Book the Quran called Ar-Rum I.e the Romans in which it is prophesized that the Romans will defeat the Persians. The begining of Surah (Chapter) 30 goes like this: "Alif-Lam-Mim (1) The Romans have been defeated (2) in a nearby land. Yet following their defeat, they will triumph (3) within "Bidh'a" (a few) years. The whole matter rests with Allah before and after ˹victory˺. And on that day the believers will rejoice (4). This Surah (Chapter 30) was revealed after the Arab Polytheists rejoiced and gloated when the Persians defeated the Romans. Islam considers Christians (Romans in this case) People of the Book (Scripture) just like Muslims and the Persians as Polytheists. So Arab Polytheists mocked the Muslims and said our Gods defeated your "One God; God of Scriptue". During 611-623 the Persians had the upper hand and by 623 AD the Persians drove the Romans out of Syria, Palestine, Egypt and Rhodes and entered Anatolia. But in 627 the Romans crushed the Persians at the battle of "Nineveh" and the Muslims rejoiced in this Roman victory. Note: The Arabic word "Bidh'a" refers to a time period between 3 and 9 years. So, the prophecy did come true.
@Liebgott23
@Liebgott23 2 жыл бұрын
During my studies, I took part in archaeological excavations around the Sea of Azov. We were digging ancient Greek cities. My best memories are the excavations at Tanais.
@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658
@theicepickthatkilledtrotsk658 2 жыл бұрын
Greeks are ancient settlers of those lands. You can still feel the influence of it today pol in the name of those former greek colonies means Polis city in ancient greek
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
great to know that
@AlexIr99
@AlexIr99 2 жыл бұрын
"Poli" in modern greek as well
@makouras
@makouras 2 жыл бұрын
The '-pol' suffix was added by the founders of these cities, which were mainly Russian. They wanted to de-Turkify these lands and give them an aura of the ancient world. The names do not stand from antiquity.
@dimitris9350
@dimitris9350 2 жыл бұрын
Polis means city in modern Greek too
@ab1858
@ab1858 2 жыл бұрын
Orome does not come from Turkish. It comes from the Arabic "الروم" pronounced as "Ar-Room" and transliterated as "Ar-Rum". There is a full chapter (Chapter 30) in the Muslim Holy Book the Quran called Ar-Rum I.e the Romans in which it is prophesized that the Romans will defeat the Persians. The begining of Surah (Chapter) 30 goes like this: "Alif-Lam-Mim (1) The Romans have been defeated (2) in a nearby land. Yet following their defeat, they will triumph (3) within "Bidh'a" (a few) years. The whole matter rests with Allah before and after ˹victory˺. And on that day the believers will rejoice (4). This Surah (Chapter 30) was revealed after the Arab Polytheists rejoiced and gloated when the Persians defeated the Romans. Islam considers Christians (Romans in this case) People of the Book (Scripture) just like Muslims and the Persians as Polytheists. So Arab Polytheists mocked the Muslims and said our Gods defeated your "One God; God of Scriptue". During 611-623 the Persians had the upper hand and by 623 AD the Persians drove the Romans out of Syria, Palestine, Egypt and Rhodes and entered Anatolia. But in 627 the Romans crushed the Persians at the battle of "Nineveh" and the Muslims rejoiced in this Roman victory. Note: The Arabic word "Bidh'a" refers to a time period between 3 and 9 years. So, the prophecy did come true.
@maggy8765
@maggy8765 2 жыл бұрын
As a( pontos) greek woman living in Germany thank you very much for this video!!
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
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@Ptolemy336VV
@Ptolemy336VV 2 жыл бұрын
The first Greeks where already there and around the black sea around atleast 1600. BCE. Even the first Colchian kingdom (Georgia today) was established by a Greek king around 1000 BCE. Greece therefor has a huge deep connection in Ukraine. And even if on official consensus in the cities amount to 90k+ Greeks. The genetic Greek connection among Ukrainians must be in the high hundreds of thousands or millions
@Aleks_Ovski416
@Aleks_Ovski416 2 жыл бұрын
No they are Slavs.
@kostasdedousis1725
@kostasdedousis1725 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aleks_Ovski416 no history knowledge
@Aleks_Ovski416
@Aleks_Ovski416 2 жыл бұрын
@@kostasdedousis1725 I was making a sarcastic reference to how Greeks treat Macedonians. Clearly identities are complex.
@idizzzful
@idizzzful 2 жыл бұрын
Ukraine does not recognise greek minority.
@idizzzful
@idizzzful 2 жыл бұрын
@@Aleks_Ovski416 Macedonia is a region in Greece. Your country officially named North Macedonia )even we don't like it)
@tassop1128
@tassop1128 2 жыл бұрын
My great grandfather was pontic Greek from Crimea who had roots from Samsun, and he was sent to Greece from Russia during population exchange in 1920s. Nice to see a video about the comminity there. They have been neglected by Greece, I wish we helped them and Ukrainians more before the war, I'm afraid now it is too late 😔
@giorikas1982
@giorikas1982 2 жыл бұрын
I am also Pontic Greek from all sides. My grandfathers were born in Crimea. Believe me that 97% of Pontic Greeks who were born in Soviet Uniom(Yzbekistan, Kazakstan and Georgia) support Russia.🇬🇷🇷🇺. Just to inform you that i also born in Soviet Union, grow up in Athens and finished Odessa Ukrainian university. It is not Russian fault for all of that my Pontic brother believe me...
@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων
@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων 2 жыл бұрын
@@giorikas1982 then start supporting Ukraine and Europe. Everyone can change and become better
@giorikas1982
@giorikas1982 2 жыл бұрын
@@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων why I have to support ukraine?I support ONLY SERBIA AND RUSSIA. Only these are our real Orthodox brothers 🇬🇷🇷🇸🇷🇺
@bardakabrama5825
@bardakabrama5825 2 жыл бұрын
@@ΔήμοςΜετεώρων do it Charlie, do the same way you did support NATO troops in 1941 with their "European leader" Adolf Hitler
@mossakis
@mossakis Жыл бұрын
​@giorikas1982 Russia is against us traitor. Russia supports radical Muslims and kill other Orthodox Christians.
@clintondonkers291
@clintondonkers291 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for educating so many in an attainable way on just how diverse the world really is
@thetrollman6596
@thetrollman6596 2 жыл бұрын
I would also suggest doing a video on the Budjak region of Ukraine because there are tons of different people living there like Bulgarians, Romanians, Russians, Ukrainians, Turks, and Gagauz people
@chiwolf1897
@chiwolf1897 2 жыл бұрын
As a Greek from the Caucasus (pontic) i am happy to see a video about our cousins in Ukraine. I want to point out that many Greeks in the former USSR area are not included in demographics as Greeks because they identify to an extent as Russians, this has been the case since the Russian Empire era. Also the USSR didnt just target Greeks out of the blue, it was due to the pro tsarist/conservative sentiment of most of the community which the soviet government saw as a potential threat hence why many were moved to Central Asia. Unfortunantly as you said Greeks have been targeted since the fall of the USSR by many people holding nationalist ideology, in Georgia there had been pogroms commited against Greeks in the 90s and many moved mostly to either Greece or Russia (some fought with the Abkhazians too), this has boosted the pro Russian sentiment of many Pontic Greeks today.
@warfootagee
@warfootagee 2 жыл бұрын
Almost all Greeks sided with the Georgian government. Georgia allowed Greece to evacuate them from Abkhazia when it was being attacked by Russia. Get your facts straight.
@warfootagee
@warfootagee 2 жыл бұрын
@@geospatial-KML Georgians are enemies of Greece? Never heard that before
@chiwolf1897
@chiwolf1897 2 жыл бұрын
@Twerk The Pontic Greek community from the Caucasus has a very anti Georgian sentiment to this day and for a reason, they believe they are a people that cant be trusted since the nationalists attacked them for no reason. Most people in Abkhazia were not friendly towards the government of Georgia, none of the minority groups liked Georgian nationalism. Also what do you mean Russia attacked Abkhazia? The Abkhaz themselfs took arms since the state didnt want to retain the status of semi autonomy and they felt under threat, or do you perhaps imply that the Russian army was behind everything because thats ludicrous.
@warfootagee
@warfootagee 2 жыл бұрын
There is not even one documented evidence that a single Greek took up Arms against Georgia. You are repeating Russian propaganda. 300,000 Georgians were forced out from their houses and land. And were made refugees in their own country thanks to Russia. You really think Abkhazians would win wad against Georgia without the help of Russians and Chechen mercenaries? If you don't know enough about this conflict you don't know what you are talking about. Talking about Georgian nationalism while abkhaz and chechen terrorist were playing soccer with cut off heads off Georgians in the city of Gagra. You are pathetic
@Constantine_Bush
@Constantine_Bush 2 жыл бұрын
@@chiwolf1897 Well yeah,there was a civil war when Sheverdnadze's nationalists aka criminals like the Mihidroni ousted the legitimate goverment of Gamksahurdia from power.Gamsahurdia despite his nationalist rhetoric had reached an agreement with the Abkhazians but it all went to hell when the communists and the radical nationalists allied and made a coup.I have many Greek friends from Georgia,the community is still quite large and very pro-Georgian,i assume you refer to the ones that left.which have bitter memories due to the war and i am ashamed to say it's well founded.Shevardnadze created local military groups which were made of radicals and criminals that were freed from jail to fight..Russia supported the seperatists by sending mercenaries,aircraft and warships,this has been well documented,you can look it up,even Russians reporters themselves admit to this,nationalist disputes occured because of Russia policies,a divided Caucasus is a controllable Caucasus afterall.Politics#People.Just look at the Georgian disputed areas,Armenian's and Arzebaijna's disputed areas,Ossetians and Inguishetians,Chechenya and Dagistan,Icheria and Circassians etc.America does the same thing in Africa and Asia as well.Georgians suffered a genocide as well in Abkhazia when the peace treaty of 1992 was violated(20.000 dead,300.000 kicked out) and the legitimate govt in Abkhazia was executed in a savage manner many of whom were pro-Georgian Armenians or Abkhaz .The army and heavy artilery had retreated based on the agreements(the war had been all but won with the 1.000 Abkhazians and Armenians having only Apinacota)leaving only small detachments but the Abkhazians along with the 6.000 mercenaries(NCF) sent from Yeltsin violated the treaty.The Abkhazians took up arms because they wanted to stay within Russia,their own autonomous status were given by Stalin and Lenin(they were the orchestrators of this situation) and they enjoyed great representation levels in local authorities despite being a minority compared to the Georgian majority.What you said is very interesting,i know a lot of Greco-Georgians who fought on the side of Georgia during the war but not Greeks who fought on the side of the seperatists,very interesting.As for the rest,Greeks were not targeted because their Tsarist sympathies but because they were thought of as being as spies of the anti-Soviet block(it was stupid to say the least)Greetings from another Greek from Caucasus.I guess your relatives stayed within Abkhazia.I hope you one day get your belongings back although the apartheid regime that has been established there(no voting rights to the Armenians and Georgians living there) will prove a hinderance.P.S.When our friend refers to Abkhazians,he refers to Mingrelians,Laz and Svans since Abkhazia is a geographical term not including only the Armenians and the Abkhaz living in the area.Fortunately,the days of post communism nationalist are gone and the people are moving forward.It's my firemost hope that Ukraine's Greek minority survives,we have been there since the stablishment of the Cimmerian and the Pontic Kingdom,may both the Pontic and Urum communities survive.
@HannahHäggAutisticTransWoman
@HannahHäggAutisticTransWoman 2 жыл бұрын
The greek speaking Byzantine/eastern roman empire used to own southern crimea for houndres of years.
@PakBallandSami
@PakBallandSami 2 жыл бұрын
great video as always man love the art especially
@giannispets
@giannispets 2 жыл бұрын
As a greek, You can clearly understand that the names of some ukraine cities are greek.... example Mariu-pol, simferu-pol, sevasto-pol, Niko-Pol... do you see the pattern?? In greek mariu-polis simferu-polis etc... "polis" in greek means "city'. I just picked some random cities with eye-catching greek names-combinations. In many foreign languages, they cut the end letters of words that are in greek. Niko - polis = Victory City (if we break up to greek words) Sevasto - polis = Respespected City Symfero - polis = Misfortuned City And the list goes on... Do not forget that in old Greece, Greeks were considering themselves as the "Great nation of the sea"... so they were more interested in places that touch the water... or close to the sea.. you can clearly see that influence if you start picking cities that are close to the sea ;) Odesa was also the place where some secret meetings started for the modern revolution of Greece.
@ΗρακλήςΠουαρό-γ6ι
@ΗρακλήςΠουαρό-γ6ι 2 жыл бұрын
Sympheropoli (Greek: Συμφερόπολη, Symferópoli), meaning city of common good. The spelling Symferopil (Ukrainian: Сімферопіль) is also used.
@yiannicart
@yiannicart 2 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video, very well researched and put together!
@BaconNationChannel
@BaconNationChannel 2 жыл бұрын
I watch a lot of history videos on YT and kept seeing this odd little kingdom in Crimea and around the Sea of Azov. I have always wondered about the Greeks from the Bosphorus Kingdom and how they interacted and traded with the locals in the ancient times up to today. It feels like they've been there forever yet not a lot of people know about it around the world. Same goes for the Greek colonies in Afghanistan, are there still some communities left over there?
@BaconNationChannel
@BaconNationChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Also, they probably propped up the Orthodox faith to the Rus so they for sure had some influence if they managed to stick around for this long.
@cbrtdgh4210
@cbrtdgh4210 2 жыл бұрын
I think it was Kings and Generals that had a great video on Cimmeria.
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 2 жыл бұрын
There’s some up in the mountains in Pakistan as well and even some in Africa
@jimmyj1969
@jimmyj1969 2 жыл бұрын
Some say the Calash tribes in Afganistan has a greek cultural influence (preserved due to their isolation over the ages), but their greek actual origin is doubtful.
@sarantissporidis391
@sarantissporidis391 2 жыл бұрын
Genetic studies to the Kalash people of Pakistan have found no traces of Greek ancestry whatsoever. Yet, since many of them identify themselves as Greeks, they are Greeks. National identity and dna heritage are two irrelevant things.
@Petrouvis
@Petrouvis 2 жыл бұрын
As a Greek living in Greece I found this really interesting and well made and I had no idea people still identified as Greeks in Ukraine
@yangashi
@yangashi 2 жыл бұрын
And now you know why mistotakis send weapons to the a z o f to kill Greeks there. Fun fact: he send weapons faster than sending water to the stranded people in Attikh odos.
@christoskotsias8050
@christoskotsias8050 2 жыл бұрын
For the same reason probably Greeks in Greece are not aware and learn about ethnic Greeks outside Greece. Not talking about Greek amerikans Australian s Canadians etc but for native population's in southern Russia, Bulgaria, Skopje (North Macedonia), Turkey and islets of such population's in Syria Lebanon and Israel remnant's from earlier times.
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
i own a greco black sean friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
@gnas1897
@gnas1897 2 жыл бұрын
@@christoskotsias8050 I'm from mainland Greece and I know about pretty much all of them. Especially in the North there's no one who hasn't heard about black sea Greeks who are still living in former Soviet countries.
@dimaskad
@dimaskad 2 жыл бұрын
Poli in Greek means city like napoli , sevastopoli, Mariupoli, philipoupoli,
@grgamertv4303
@grgamertv4303 2 жыл бұрын
Constantinopoli
@GriffinParke
@GriffinParke 2 жыл бұрын
Good video...very interesting. Have you considered doing a video on the medieval Anglo-Saxon colony in Crimea?
@alchang1515
@alchang1515 Жыл бұрын
More precisely, a Gothic colony there
@GriffinParke
@GriffinParke Жыл бұрын
@@alchang1515 the Goths were already there. Anglo-Saxons supposedly settled there in the late 11th Century.
@manofcultura
@manofcultura 2 жыл бұрын
The suffix ‘pol’ kind of gave that away for me but it’s nice to get a detailed breakdown.
@rgllkendall
@rgllkendall 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry, but some of your information here is wrong. The Greek colonies on the northern Black Sea coast were largely Archaic foundations (possibly late 7th, certainly 6th century BC), and there was never any general polity known as Pontos from the 4th century BC to the 13th AD. If you are thinking of the Pontic Empire, or Pontic Kingdom (the only time when the Black Sea littoral was unified to some extent under a single state) that was in the late 2nd and first half of the 1st century BC under Mithridates VI Eupator. You might be confusing the Bosporan Kingdom (which was founded in the 5th but grew more prosperous in the 4th century BC) with Pontos, but this was restricted to the Cimmerian Straits and the Sea of Azov littoral and only lasted until the Gothic invasions in the 3rd-4th centuries AD.
@mitsos_306
@mitsos_306 2 жыл бұрын
The video is good and generally accurate. According with the Greek government sources, general Greek population in Ukraine is something less than 150.000 people, half of them in the southeast part of it. Also there are many complaints about oppression against Greek minority regarding using Greek language etc. The latter is under research from EU.
@Имя-л6л7щ
@Имя-л6л7щ Жыл бұрын
Ну и чтоже нет помощи грекам приазовия !? Помогите возродится нам ,очень просим планетарное сообщество!!!!!!!!!!!!
@polytrelaras1
@polytrelaras1 2 жыл бұрын
You are very verse in History, Ethnology and Glossology. Congratulations from a Pondic Greek.
@yanaynarmon8943
@yanaynarmon8943 2 жыл бұрын
I see many foreigners curious about minorities in Ukraine. You can also tell about koryo saram, an old korean diaspora in my country. Some of them becamed heroes in this times. Like governor of Mykolayiv region Vitaliy Kim, or actor and soldier Pavlo Lee.
@TheZombieGAGA
@TheZombieGAGA 2 жыл бұрын
First time I read about the Ukrainians with Koryo-Saram ancestry. I heard that Koreans have also settled in Kazachstan, the violinist Roman Kim being an example of this community.
@ЮрійЯкубовський-й3к
@ЮрійЯкубовський-й3к 2 жыл бұрын
Dobrogo Vechora, Mi z Ukraini.
@akolyt
@akolyt 2 жыл бұрын
also there are many minorities in Ukraine that are from central asia and siberia
@ntinoshatzidakis2184
@ntinoshatzidakis2184 2 жыл бұрын
excellent video! rich in information and with respect to everybody.
@eleftheriosmas
@eleftheriosmas 2 жыл бұрын
That's a very small number. Our consulate in Mariupol and the local Greek community organisations estimated our own at 150.000 thousand only in that city (for reasons of possible evacuation missions etc, or just for reporting it on our media as part of the news that one major hub of our own is heavily bombarded by Russia). Ofc i suppose many of them could be half-bloods but if they think that they are Greeks (too) they are indeed since they have some of our blood in them, connecting them with the rest of the nation. So i rly protest the numbers shown in the video.
@billm3210
@billm3210 2 жыл бұрын
Greek Myth does explain the geographical areas the tribes of Greece visited/colonized. This area would be in Jason and the Argonauts to seek to Golden Fleece. Marseille is also one of the furthest and oldest establishments. The sea was their life and existence.
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
Get a brain that can separate facts and fictions. Smh
@andreaspitsinis255
@andreaspitsinis255 2 жыл бұрын
I paused it when he mentioned the progroms against the Greeks in 1937, that's how my Russian speaking Ukrainian grandma ended up in Greece with two kids in tow two years before the Italians attacked us. Her Pontian Greek husband ended up in the Siberian gulags where he was poisoned come to find out. One if her kids died of starvation during the occupation. That's when she met my grandpa a refugee from Smyrna hence my last name. My uncle still speaks Russian and my grandma was able to at last see her family in 89 after Gorbachev instituted glasnost and perestroika. I stopped the video right there because it's just too painful to watch with everything going on in Ukraine right now...
@stasvpavlov
@stasvpavlov 2 жыл бұрын
Great video! I was wondering about this myself because I know I have family living in Ukraine but I always wondered why. My mother was born in Georgia and her father and family was Greek. Currently the family lives very spread out across Greek islands, Ukraine, Russia and some still in Georgia. I myslef live in the Netherlands and I don't know much about our family history but I do know that I have a lot of genetic markers pointing to the north of Turkey (Giresun). So I always figured a connection with pontic Greeks. There used to live a lot of Greeks in Georgia but a lot of them have moved away in the past couple of decades like my family did. Do you happen to know anything about why Greeks ended up in Georgia and why they moved since? I couldn't really figure it out in Wikipedia but I suspect that it has to do with WW1.
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
It mostly has to do with forced migrations under Stalin and offcourse due to political reasons after WWII. But anyway the region has ties with Greece and the Eastern Roman empire with alot intermarriage. Fun fact Constantine Paleologos the last Roman emperor, just afew months before the siege of Constantinople, tried to arrange a marriage with a Georgian princess. The arrangements were sucessful but the bride was not able to reach the city because the siege had begun. The man who wrote the chronicle of the siege George Sphrantzes, was the one who acted as an ambassador for the match. He was a personal friend of the emperor.
@stasvpavlov
@stasvpavlov 2 жыл бұрын
@@joek600 Where there forced migrations from pontic Greeks out of the north of Turkey In to Georgia?
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
@SvP People from that area usually fled to Russia and Georgia to avoid forced conventions to Islam and oppression. The ottomans might allowed to Christians and Jews to exist but they had to pay a (keep your) head tax. Christians were basically second class citizens. They had no chance against a muslim at court, their fortune could be confiscated on a whim, and whatever privileges granted, like learning Greek at school, withdrawn whenever the local ottoman ruler felt like. Even Greeks who were essential for the ottoman society, because of their trading connection, seamanship or education and had considerable fortunes, could lose everything suddenly. That’s why many Greek populations withdrew to mountainous barren sites, where they had minimum interactions with the Turks, or fled to Russia and Georgia, or Italy. Especially after the fall of Constantinople many migrated to Venetian controlled regions, or joined mercenary bands of Stradioti, the Italian used name of stratiotes ‘’soldiers’’. Thomas of Argos reached Scotland fighting for Henry VIII and in his campaigns in France.
@aokiaoki4238
@aokiaoki4238 2 жыл бұрын
@@stasvpavlov Russians funded Ataturk to Genocide Greeks of the Ottoman Empire, the Greeks wrongly escaped to Russia believing they would be safe there, Genocided later by the NKVD.
@theodoruspantelides8661
@theodoruspantelides8661 2 жыл бұрын
@@stasvpavlov i own a greco black sean friendship discord server if you want to join send me your account
@theofilosch
@theofilosch 2 жыл бұрын
the Pontic Greeks speak a dialect of ancient Archaic Greek
@QWE2623
@QWE2623 2 жыл бұрын
I have been interested in their situation now as soon as I heard about it. it's wild. I hope they can survive this war
@willelm88
@willelm88 2 жыл бұрын
Good stuff, as always, Hilbert! And yeah, I'd like to know more about 2 minorities in Ukraine; first, the Bulgarians who live (or used to) in the far southwest by the mouth of the Danube; and second, the Rumanians who used to be scattered inland from the Black Sea east of the river Dniester.
@willelm88
@willelm88 2 жыл бұрын
@Nichòlas Nicholas Thanks, that's interesting. Are the Bulgarians still the majority in southern Bessarabia?
@georgios_5342
@georgios_5342 2 жыл бұрын
The strong Greek presence all around the Black Sea and Eastern Mediterranean shows our deep history and links to Asia Minor, and the Greek lands conquered there. It is a connection that Erdogan is doing his best to hide from.
@noobsaibot7006
@noobsaibot7006 2 жыл бұрын
Hide LOL You lost deal with it
@wankawanka3053
@wankawanka3053 2 жыл бұрын
@@noobsaibot7006 turk this isn't about who won or lost but about history and you can't hide history no matter how much you want you should deal with it🤷
@kimphilby7999
@kimphilby7999 2 жыл бұрын
Very nice work! The most interesting about Greeks,is that their colonies in far and foreign lands,never tried to enslave the local people,or exploid them,like modern Europeans did. They were always merchants, sailors and farmers in their colonies,and the civilization was thriving around them. Even today, they're distinguished among the other Europeans,in the Middle East and in the Mediterranean.
@grgamertv4303
@grgamertv4303 2 жыл бұрын
One of many reason why Us Greeks are so proud of our history and country
@kimphilby7999
@kimphilby7999 2 жыл бұрын
@@grgamertv4303 you should be,my friend! It's Good Friday for the Greeks today, I believe,so I wish you a Happy Easter!
@grgamertv4303
@grgamertv4303 2 жыл бұрын
@@kimphilby7999 thank you very much
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
Greeks never had any colony, but Greece itself is a colony of many people who came from the Middle East, Anatolia, Africa and Albania. The combination of all those people is what created this Greek nation state.
@grgamertv4303
@grgamertv4303 2 жыл бұрын
@@supermavro6072 the came from the north .
@johnny88sunday
@johnny88sunday 2 жыл бұрын
So glad I subscribed to Hilbert before this kicked off, really interesting hearing the history of all sides affected!
@QWE2623
@QWE2623 2 жыл бұрын
I would also like the see the situation of the ethnic minority populations of Zakarpattia, Chernivitsi, and Odessa oblasts. It's crazy for me to imagine the situation of the ethnic Hungarians, Romanians, or Bulgarians (and others of course) during the war. Do the Hungarians in Ukraine support Orban now that the two countries are opposed?
@satyr1349
@satyr1349 2 жыл бұрын
Good question. On the issue of relations between the peoples of Ukraine towards Russia I imagine they'd feel betrayed and beyond furious.
@peternagy6067
@peternagy6067 2 жыл бұрын
As a hungarian I can confidently say that most Hungarians left after the war. Even before the war many of them emigrated to Hungarian. The general attitude towards the war is that "this is not our war, we have nothing to do with it". This opinion is echoed since Crimea. And many of them are strong Orbán supporters. Mind you they can vote in hungarian elections where the opposition feared that the "ukraians" (hungarinas from Zakarpatska) will make Orbán win. Orbán invested a lot into there and gave them citizenship, they are flooded with Hungarian money. Of course it's a generalisation but this is the overall picture.
@romanlopushanskyi1610
@romanlopushanskyi1610 2 жыл бұрын
i know some Hungarians in Ukraine, they told me that they feel honor to live in Ukraine, but i think they is minority
@QWE2623
@QWE2623 2 жыл бұрын
@@peternagy6067 huh, good to know, thanks
@peternagy6067
@peternagy6067 2 жыл бұрын
@@romanlopushanskyi1610 I don't know, I have some friends from Zakarpatska who left because they hated corruption and lack of infrastructure and didn't wanted to get drafted. They badmouth Ukraine on a daily basis.
@tasosGRvocals
@tasosGRvocals 2 жыл бұрын
I haven't seen a better video about Greeks of Ukraine, in fact I haven't seen any video about that matter!! Congratulations and thank you!!!
@chuckles5689
@chuckles5689 2 жыл бұрын
the ottomans didnt rule crimea. it was ruled by the crimean khanate, a vassal of the ottomans.
@shermoore1693
@shermoore1693 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting! Thanks!
@deirdrevergados971
@deirdrevergados971 2 жыл бұрын
As an American who has lived in northern Greece for close to 40 years, I thank you for this video. It gives me an understanding of why some of my neighbors actually support Russia over Ukraine
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 жыл бұрын
actually the ussr didn’t involve itself in Greece. It was Yugoslavia that helped the communist Greeks. Churchill and Stalin’s percentages agreement established that the Soviets would have no ambitions in Greece, as they only wished to have a buffer zone in neighbouring countries.
@ΧρήστοςΓκολστάιν
@ΧρήστοςΓκολστάιν 2 жыл бұрын
Αστείο γιατί έχει νομίζω γύρο στον ένα μήνα που δημοσιεύτηκαν αρχεία της σοβιετική Ένωση που δείχνουν ότι το ΚΚΕ είχε άμεση βοήθεια από τους σοβιετικούς στον εμφύλιο
@Stathube
@Stathube 2 жыл бұрын
That is totally wrong! The USSR was behind the help that the greek communists received through Yugoslavia, Albania and Bulgaria during the greek civil war. The communist party of Greece was actually in full accordance with the communist party of the Soviet Union. The communists in Greece could do nothing without the permission of the Kremlin, as it was proven again a couple of months ago by Dr Sergey Radchenko. The revelations the distinguished professor of Johns Hopkins University made in late January 2022 is a very interesting story for Cold War enthusiasts.
@idizzzful
@idizzzful 2 жыл бұрын
What? You monkedonians are so funny!
@olbiomoiros
@olbiomoiros 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stathube thank you I was not aware of this
@DecontructRecreate
@DecontructRecreate 2 жыл бұрын
@@Stathube to add to that, Stalin had approved of the secessionist provisional government’s plans of capturing territory and declaring independence.
@nikosmalias4795
@nikosmalias4795 2 жыл бұрын
Great presentation! Thank you
@jimmyj1969
@jimmyj1969 2 жыл бұрын
Greek-russian people had told me their own version about the Stalin purge of greek population: 1) Since tsarist Russia (and also Soviet Union for quite a few years after that) didn't have an adequate system of population census & keepin up records, a vast portion of greeks settling in Ukraine/southern Russia (after escaping ottoman/turkish purges) througout the years never got proper papers (IDs etc.), neither did they ever enlist in the army. 2) Greeks of the region use to keep a low-profile, "minding their own business and not interfering in russian/soviet affairs". (Of course many Greeks joined Bolshevik revolution or the Great Patriotic War, but not all of them). This mentality may seem prudent at times, but in cases of major crises (like WWII) had a nasty result: russian/ukrainian people consider them not-patriotic enough, aloofers who refuse their share of the common burden! 3) Therefore, when Stalin started purging Greeks, most people of majority ethnicities were not supportive or sympathetic towards them (especially after WWII, when quite a few Greeks didn't join the army, since they were not registered). 4) Another thing was that Stalin regime didnt't openly condemn Greeks, sending them to exile under some formal accusation: on the contrary, they were told they were selected, due to their advanced cultural level, to "civilise/modernise" the more buckward territories of the USSR (namely in central Asia), presenting their exile as a kind of "honorary mission" that no-one would dare to openly object or refuse! 5) Except people of pontian origin, most greek political refugees after 1949 were settled in Uzbekistan (!), especially in the city of Tashkend - although, in general, they were scatterd all around USSR (and other east-block countries). A big part of them returned to Greece after 1982 (when the socialist goverment under Andreas Papandreou canceled all legal residues of the civil war). Most of those who didn't, alongside pontian Greeks, were force to return after the collapse of the Soviet Union, due to the deteriorationg of standards of living in the 1990s...
@stansearcheslife6363
@stansearcheslife6363 2 жыл бұрын
I love how you review these smaller things in the world and history
@ianeons9278
@ianeons9278 2 жыл бұрын
You should also do videos on the Romani, Hungarian, and Albanian communities in Ukraine. They have their own militias and paramilitaries within the Ukrainian military.
@Sebastian-iu5ov
@Sebastian-iu5ov 2 жыл бұрын
Do you mean romanians? Gipisies in militias sound like a fucking joke. Organized in something other then stealing with their familys is impossible. But guessing stealing on enemy lines would be good for the war effort.
@noahtylerpritchett2682
@noahtylerpritchett2682 2 жыл бұрын
Gypsies with a pro Ukraine militia 😂😂
@supermavro6072
@supermavro6072 2 жыл бұрын
They are aII Greeks.
@gregoryvanikiotis3214
@gregoryvanikiotis3214 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent documentary
@reginaldamoah8608
@reginaldamoah8608 2 жыл бұрын
Interesting I'd always wondered how come the Romans spread Latin in Western Europe but Greek didn't spread in the same way. I guess there were pockets of ethnic Greeks but over time they got assimilated. I think it's a great disservice to history to suppress cultures and languages because we lose a part of our collective human story.
@StoutProper
@StoutProper 2 жыл бұрын
Well you should tell the Ukrainian government and military that
@navi8792
@navi8792 2 жыл бұрын
Good point. The Greeks did not impose their language although it was the lingua franca in vast areas for many centuries. However they gave their language to numerous nations by assimilating the Greek language into theirs without loosing their original phonetics, pronunciation etc. Slavic languages, languages of the Near East, have this influence but it does not show prominently. In any case also Latin is a cousin of Greek so all European languages carry the Greek DNA.
@nikospapageorgiou2345
@nikospapageorgiou2345 2 жыл бұрын
The reason for that is that the Easter Roman Empire fell. Romance languages also disappeared from zones that were conquered by a different culture: For example the African Romance language disappeared after Arabs conquered the area. Similarly, the Hellenistic and the Eastern Roman (Byzantine), Greek-speaking world got slowly swallowed by Muslims, Arabs, Turks, and a bit by Slavs.
@sir2657
@sir2657 2 жыл бұрын
All the roman you heard in this video has nothing to do with Rome or Italy in any way btw... ..I think the reason we did not spread so much is because for 500 years wr where slaves lol
@chrissevastopoulos4964
@chrissevastopoulos4964 Жыл бұрын
Thank you for uploading this, very interesting.
@casteretpollux
@casteretpollux 2 жыл бұрын
Main conclusion: different ethnic and religious groups have lived alongside each other for thousands of years including moslems and christians. There of course have been from time to time frictions but in the last 150 years western european big powers began to weaponise these differences for their own ends of carving up and dominating territories. This has reached a new peak from the 1990s on with the series of predatory US and NATO regime change wars in the Middle East. Stalinism has a lot to answer for too. Patrick Lancaster on YT is in Mariupol reporting daily. Hospital staff have said in interviews that the AZOV - Ukraine forces took over at least 2 hospitals moving patients and staff to the basements. May we support each other in our diversity and stand firm against divide and rule measures of all kinds.
@hipmusicdrumminsingin
@hipmusicdrumminsingin 2 жыл бұрын
Hilbert man, I love the vids, but you really gotta do multiple takes. The flow can sometimes be awkward, and I'm pretty sure that you saying the Yalta "confederation" was just you misreading your script.
@billfarlo3366
@billfarlo3366 2 жыл бұрын
Some Ukrainian city names have Greek roots like Odesa, Kherson, Mariupol, Sevastopol, Melitopol, Simferopol (basically any city ending in "pol")
@harakitty2058
@harakitty2058 2 жыл бұрын
These cities were established by Russian emperors
@spikedtangent3361
@spikedtangent3361 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video, really, but just a small nitpick that when you said the USSR supported the Greek communists in 1946, they actually did not, the communist Greeks were actually supported by Albania and Yugoslavia, but apart from that, incredible video Hilbert, thanks.
@navi8792
@navi8792 2 жыл бұрын
The soviet archives show that indeed the soviets supported the Greek communists.
@spikedtangent3361
@spikedtangent3361 2 жыл бұрын
@@navi8792 i got my reference in this video if you would like to watch it: kzbin.info/www/bejne/g3bbc3toat2Za9E
@spikedtangent3361
@spikedtangent3361 2 жыл бұрын
oh well if I'm wrong I'll just delete my comment no biggie lol
@stephmod7434
@stephmod7434 2 жыл бұрын
@@spikedtangent3361 as a Greek Albanians Yugoslavians and Bulgarians supported the comies and Greeke comies offered Thrace to Bulgaria Macedonia to Yugoslavia and Thesprotia to Albania
@ab1858
@ab1858 2 жыл бұрын
Orome does not come from Turkish. It comes from the Arabic "الروم" pronounced as "Ar-Room" and transliterated as "Ar-Rum". There is a full chapter (Chapter 30) in the Muslim Holy Book the Quran called Ar-Rum I.e the Romans in which it is prophesized that the Romans will defeat the Persians. The begining of Surah (Chapter) 30 goes like this: "Alif-Lam-Mim (1) The Romans have been defeated (2) in a nearby land. Yet following their defeat, they will triumph (3) within "Bidh'a" (a few) years. The whole matter rests with Allah before and after ˹victory˺. And on that day the believers will rejoice (4). This Surah (Chapter 30) was revealed after the Arab Polytheists rejoiced and gloated when the Persians defeated the Romans. Islam considers Christians (Romans in this case) People of the Book (Scripture) just like Muslims and the Persians as Polytheists. So Arab Polytheists mocked the Muslims and said our Gods defeated your "One God; God of Scriptue". During 611-623 the Persians had the upper hand and by 623 AD the Persians drove the Romans out of Syria, Palestine, Egypt and Rhodes and entered Anatolia. But in 627 the Romans crushed the Persians at the battle of "Nineveh" and the Muslims rejoiced in this Roman victory. Note: The Arabic word "Bidh'a" refers to a time period between 3 and 9 years. So, the prophecy did come true.
@ilyaklmk8557
@ilyaklmk8557 4 ай бұрын
Thank you for the video. I was told by my grandmother, that one of her ancestor is from rumei crimean greek. Does anyone know where can I learn more about them?
@Artur_M.
@Artur_M. 2 жыл бұрын
What a fascinating topic! I can only wish the circumstances to learn about it weren't so horrible. The images comming currently from Mariupol remind me about Warsaw after the Uprising of 1944. Unfortunately, it seems that you have an infestation of pathetic Kremlin's gremlins in the comment section. I guess, that's a price of covering such topics. Going back to some more positive things and speaking about unique languages originating in Crimea, the channel Che Languages not long ago made an interesting video about the endangered Karaim language, today surviving mostly in Lithuania.
@tasbykekerey1203
@tasbykekerey1203 Жыл бұрын
One fact didn’t mention: Before Mongols/Tatars came, this Pontic region also inhabited by other Central Asian people like Huns, Avars, Pechenegs, Kipchaks, Cumans…etc. and all of them related to Altaic/Turkic languages, nomadic lifestyle and Tengrism culture. I wonder why didn’t mention them and skipped to 13th century? During Kipchak regime, Kipchak language was the third most common language of Eurasia, Latins even wrote a dictionary to learn Kipchak language, proof:
@petergray7576
@petergray7576 2 жыл бұрын
Stalin's Internal Deportations by group, year and rehabilitation status and date: Ingrian Finns (1931): Not rehabilitated, expelled to Finland Amur Koreans (1937): Not rehabilitated. Assimilated by Kazakhs Crimean Greeks (1937, 1944): Rehabilitated in 1957, returned to Ukraine the same year. 'Ukrainian' Poles (1940): Not rehabilitated, expelled to Poland. Karelian Finns (1940): Not rehabilitated, expelled to Finland. Kola Norwegians (1940): Not rehabilitated, and their small population has dwindled severely. Volga Germans (1941, 1944): Officially rehabilitated in 1957, prohibited from repatriating property or residence. Romanians (1941, 1942, 1949): Rehabilitated in the postwar period. Most were conscripted for forced labor across the USSR Crimean Italians (1942): Rehabilitated in 1957. Karachays (1943): Rehabilitated and returned in 1957 Balkars (1944): Rehabilitated and returned in 1957 Chechens (1944): Rehabilitated and returned in 1957. Ingush (1944): Rehabilitated and returned in 1957. Kalmyks (1944): Rehabilitated and returned in 1957. Crimean Tatars (1944): Rehabilitated and returned in 1988. Ukrainian Greeks (1944): Deported simultaneously with Crimean Tatars. Rehabilitated and returned in 1957 Meskhetian Turks (1944): Deported from Georgia SSR. Not rehabilitated, and prohibited from repatriation by successive Georgian governments since 1991. Survivors are mostly stateless persons scattered across many former Soviet Republics. Karapapakhs (1944): Deported from Georgia SSR. Rehabilitated in 1988. Pontic Greeks (1949): Deported from Georgia and Armenia possibly as collective punishment following the defeat of Communist guerrillas in Greece. Rehabilitated and returned in 1957.
@PrimeroVorian1
@PrimeroVorian1 2 жыл бұрын
thank you!
@jamesclement8985
@jamesclement8985 2 жыл бұрын
I would politely challenge your characterisation of ethnic Greeks being assimilated into the broader popularion, as I'm sure they would prefer to think of themselves as integrated. "Assimilated" is rather morally loaded, isn't it? Or perhaps "assimilated" is the appropriate term.
@sokratesharalambros4845
@sokratesharalambros4845 2 жыл бұрын
One thing I like to add is greeks know who they are we keep our heritage up but we don't refuse to integrate and adopt... So we blend in in the societys we live in usually in full support of the laws and rules.. I myself born in Germany and went to the German army back in the days. But I am sure all of us know a story of our papoudes and giagiades moving coming or fleeing somewhere. Just that made us Greek by heart.
@yototrash
@yototrash 2 жыл бұрын
What Ukrainian army and Azov group were doing in Donbass and Odesa for the last 8 years is atrocious...
@ΔημΔ-ω2ο
@ΔημΔ-ω2ο 2 жыл бұрын
Judging of what a small nation we are we have kind of a big influence in places you wouldn't imagine.Damn
@pittassavvas7512
@pittassavvas7512 2 жыл бұрын
You didn't mention that the zalenski government recently before the war past a law not recognizing the Greek minority. So much for democracy in the Ukraine.
@ευθυμηξερωπουμενειςκαισεγαμω
@ευθυμηξερωπουμενειςκαισεγαμω 2 жыл бұрын
Σε ποιο νόμο αναφέρεσαι;
@pittassavvas7512
@pittassavvas7512 2 жыл бұрын
@@ευθυμηξερωπουμενειςκαισεγαμω Σε νόμο της κυβέρνησης zalensky. Kαι αναγνωρίζει πλήρως τούς Τούρκους Ταρταρους.
@JustineVWarrior
@JustineVWarrior 2 жыл бұрын
Extremely interesting!!!Thank you!!!!!
@olelubbers9441
@olelubbers9441 2 жыл бұрын
great video but I saw a little mistake in your video. The sovjet Union didn't support the greek communists in the greek civil war. They made a agreement with the Alies in the second world war that Greece would become a democratic country and didn't want to risk escalating the war. However, Yugoslavia did support the greek communists.
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
Exactly the communists received support from Tito and Bulgaria, the soviets wanted nothing to do with them and that was their greatest grievance towards USSR. They did receive those who escaped for political reasons, but even then their reward was to be transported into barren and isolated places. Many of these families returned to Greece during the 80's and the 90's.
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 2 жыл бұрын
An estimated 200-300K Greek children were taken by the Bulgarians and sent to Russia for re-education during the Greek Civil War. Even though the Soviets didn't support the Greek communists, they have something to answer for.
@joek600
@joek600 2 жыл бұрын
@@georgesakellaropoulos8162 I guess for keeping their word and staying out?
@georgesakellaropoulos8162
@georgesakellaropoulos8162 2 жыл бұрын
@@joek600 When an individual does it, it's called kidnapping and leads to severe punishment, but I guess it's okay in your book if a country decides to conspire in such actions.
@ab1858
@ab1858 2 жыл бұрын
Orome does not come from Turkish. It comes from the Arabic "الروم" pronounced as "Ar-Room" and transliterated as "Ar-Rum". There is a full chapter (Chapter 30) in the Muslim Holy Book the Quran called Ar-Rum I.e the Romans in which it is prophesized that the Romans will defeat the Persians. The begining of Surah (Chapter) 30 goes like this: "Alif-Lam-Mim (1) The Romans have been defeated (2) in a nearby land. Yet following their defeat, they will triumph (3) within "Bidh'a" (a few) years. The whole matter rests with Allah before and after ˹victory˺. And on that day the believers will rejoice (4). This Surah (Chapter 30) was revealed after the Arab Polytheists rejoiced and gloated when the Persians defeated the Romans. Islam considers Christians (Romans in this case) People of the Book (Scripture) just like Muslims and the Persians as Polytheists. So Arab Polytheists mocked the Muslims and said our Gods defeated your "One God; God of Scriptue". During 611-623 the Persians had the upper hand and by 623 AD the Persians drove the Romans out of Syria, Palestine, Egypt and Rhodes and entered Anatolia. But in 627 the Romans crushed the Persians at the battle of "Nineveh" and the Muslims rejoiced in this Roman victory. Note: The Arabic word "Bidh'a" refers to a time period between 3 and 9 years. So, the prophecy did come true.
@NataliyaDovhopol
@NataliyaDovhopol 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for a great video! Very important now, many Greeks in Greece lost their connection and do not relate themselves to other, over the seas Greek people
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