Why didn't Greece get Constantinople after World War One? (Short Animated Documentary)

Greece (after Russia) really wanted to get its hands on Constantinople after World War One and the surrender of the Ottoman Empire. And given its history as a Greek city and the heart of the classical Greek world, why didn't Greece get the city? To find out watch this short and simple animated history documentary.
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Lol, hopefully in order to change the powers that be.

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which?

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@@hedgeknight3194 "Why didn't the USSR Annex Finland (Short Animated Documentary)"

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[@barsustunel9646]

As a Turk I can say, I love Greeks. I met lot of them, everyone is so cool. The world do not want us to be friends. Just imagine, two friend controlling egean and mediterranean sea... Nobody wants that, they want us to fight.

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[@ayronmeyden560]

Höööşşşt!

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Πόσο δίκιο έχεις!!!!

[@bora1130]

Probably because turks have like 60 % incestry of Greeks

[@Paul-uv6mb]

Not like this bri,egean is greek,so i cant say you if you want we to be freinds i want your home, your politicals must stop to say this is mine and this i wil take it in one night,if this stop i believe 100% 2 country's will come near.

[@barisozyilmaz4309]

I like how the video is so short simply answering the question like "because greece had no juice to do so"

[@bruhovski7554]

@@MrSerdzan yeah, but you got your ass kicked by a bunch of irregulars hmmmm

[@NoChrReq]

@@MrSerdzan modern turkish Republic is not the ottomans (the former revolted against the latter and put an end to it), no need to use "you" because it's void.

[@etnalutt3492]

It belongs to Albania, not Greece

[@etnalutt3492]

@@NoChrReq Are you saying, Iranians are not Persians?

[@NoChrReq]

@@etnalutt3492 i'm saying ottomans were turkish but that's not the same country, they were enemies. just like today's iran islamic republic, they are enemy of former modern iran. completely opposite directions

[@phosphorusdaemon7]

As a Greek I feel the need to say: "As a Greek" every time I start writing a sentence about something on the internet.

[@bugragundogan7918]

As a Turk, I sincerely understand this habit of yours.

[@mehmetkaraata3432]

yeah because greeks have very interesting ideas

[@caralhoguy]

@@mehmetkaraata3432 haha

[@caralhoguy]

@Return of the Paddy sup Irish

[@TheAtomoh]

As an Italian, same thing. . . . . . . . . CONSTANTINOPLE AND ANATOLIA ARE GREEEEEEEEEEEK

[@kevinread7402]

International zone, which meant “British in all but name”. If that isn’t 1850-1939 British foreign policy in a nutshell.

[@zeljkomiloradovic1574]

Same as USA novadays.

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

he who controls the sea

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

@@zeljkomiloradovic1574 well, rather 10-30 years ago. it's getting harder and harder for the US. Especially closer to China. But yes US still had most control by a lot

[@user-wq9mw2xz3j]

@@zeljkomiloradovic1574 well, rather 10-30 years ago. it's getting harder and harder for the US. Especially closer to China. But yes US still had most control by a lot

[@bigbo1764]

Still is today in Cyprus

[@Sir_Duke_Turtle]

"They'll go back as fast as they came in" - Gazi Mustafa Kemal Paşa

[@baykurd7695]

geldikleri gibi giderler

[@dogan.t]

Kadir mısıroviç bunu beğenmedi. Konstantinin kucağında hop hop hopluyordur şimdi rahmetsiz..

[@dorukkiratli1624]

Naah it wasn't Mustafa Kemal. Angels helped in that war I know you potato heads won't believe it because most of you guys are asleep. Otherwise you could all be Muslims but truth is truth. ALLAH sent his armies. It's even written in Australian's dairies. They couldn't shoot those ones wearing white hahaha those were angels

[@gizemlioyuncu8263]

@@dogan.t KLFNWADNAWD ahh

[@tastingyoursmile2416]

Yunanların yanıt vermediği tek yorum :D

[@UlasMT]

As a Turk, I visited Athens last summer and I LOVED it! The culture, the people, the food, the climate; we have so many similarities. I honestly have nothing but love for y'all and wish for all this (political) hate to stop. We both have enough land to live on. Let's just co-exist. Yamaaaaasss.

[@kapoioskapoiou8631]

Yamas!!

[@flamingrubys11]

turkey lives on whats basically roman built lsnds yall just sat on it for a few hundred years and did nothing with it i say greece should have it

[@---1001---]

​@@flamingrubys11 what do you mean they did nothing with it? what they were supposed to do with it, its just a city. plus at one point ottomans were as strong if not stronger than byzantine empire.

[@flamingrubys11]

@@---1001--- the ottomans were never strong they just sat there more or less threstening countries much weaker than them any war with a major power they usually lost and lost another chunk of land the ottomans were more or less bound to die, that and its karmic retribution for the genocide of constanople

[@nourvanwest070]

@@flamingrubys11keep dreaming

[@kudzem]

Fun fact : I lived in both Greece and Turkey for a while and most people had positive things to say about each other despite politicians wanting the world to believe otherwise.

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

We both just want to get drunk, eat and have parties. There is no reason to hate each other.

[@kasadam85]

@@imadeyoureadthis1 Speak for yourself, we do all those without getting drunk to keep it halal and sinless. Edit: so many people didn't get the "keep it halal meme", sad lives.

[@imadeyoureadthis1]

@@kasadam85 if you don't want to drink, don't drink Mitch "Muscle Man" Sorenstein.

[@ercangundogan2141]

@@kasadam85 hastır lan kim içmiyor. 20 sene akp ile geçti diye içki içmiyor mu olduk. Paşalar gibi içiyoruz keyfimize bakıyoruz.

[@oguzkaan2153]

@@kasadam85 speak for your self turkey is not a country forces your shitty religions rules we do what ever we want, you do you

[@raceris7309]

On the topic of Greece, I would really like to know how the first modern Olympic games of 1896 in Greece were organized and how this idea came to be

[@volodyadykun6490]

That is a great idea

[@crazycocainemercenary7498]

As a Greek I must say that actually is a funny story 😂

[@milandimovski5279]

You should ask the germans for that one,they established "modern" Greece

[@NIDELLANEUM]

A similar topic would be if there were orher attempts. Like, for over a thousand years, nobody had tried before 1896?

[@crazycocainemercenary7498]

@@milandimovski5279 no Germans didn't establish modern Greece, Greece liberate and establish her self allow in fact Germany is enemy of Greece

[@patrickf2671]

The Portugese fought with the Allies in WW1 but the map at 0min 52sec has them as neutrals. That said I absolutely love your very entertaining and informative videos....

[@sonicmeerkat]

that is a point, i'd love to see some coverage of portugal in WW1, the fact they got nothing out of it would probably explain them falling to dictatorship in the interwar period.

[@cole_cain]

seriously, they did? wow I never knew that

[@tastingyoursmile2416]

it is what it is we can't change the past but we can pave the future together 🇹🇷❤️🇬🇷

[@iCanSeeYou999]

Best comment

[@user-gh6ly4pr8l]

Yes past cannot be changed but since you learn from the past you have to take the necessary actions. For Greece these actions are extreme military protection and common military agreements with the Big Forces

[@giannisgiannis870]

Yes bro

[@G9Sn]

Past was the past when u owned Constantinople So don’t say the past is the past They changed the past when they took Constantinople u can too

[@HeWhoHungers]

This is really putting the NOPE into Constantinople. Ottomans join the war. Russians: "Nice we'll finally get our hands on Constantinople" Communist Revolutionaries: "Haha nope" Greeks: "Nice we'll finally be able to restore the greatness of Byzantium" British: "Haha nope" British: "Nice we'll occupy Constantinople under the guise of an international zone" Atatürk: "Haha nope"

[@juanjoniebles452]

To be honest the Russians didn't really need a Communist revolution to fail in gaining Constantinople.

[@jora5483]

ataturk was british puppet. Dont make hero out of it

[@isminivermekistemeyenseyir3286]

@@jora5483 yeah sure. keep deceiving yourseIf.

[@ardasahan6817]

@@jora5483 yeah sure i am actually queen victoria

[@costenics_sw]

Kemal was a monster and he is burned in hell , he is where he deserves and I am happy for him.🙂🔥🇹🇷

[@I_Hate_YouTube.]

The history teacher we all need

[@savagedarksider5934]

But not the one we deserve.

[@GangstaRapper007]

Imagine having him as history tacher and James Bissonette a principal

[@I_Hate_YouTube.]

@@GangstaRapper007 and kelly moneymaker as the vice principal

[@jamesbissonette8002]

@@GangstaRapper007 that would be a strange school

[@GangstaRapper007]

@@jamesbissonette8002 maybe, but with 100% attendance in every class probably

[@stefankarlberg2433]

thank you for a short AND engaging AND informative video im subbing immediately

[@mardel1607]

Great videos!

[@NK-dj7no]

so nice to see Greeks and Turks discussing in a polite manner and having respect towards each others. This comment section made me very happy. I send my love to our Turkish neighbours

[@kingkong2415]

Thank you, malaka ❤

[@kimberbauer1064]

Raising rakı/ouzo to you, cheers neighbour!

[@nuraoktem5464]

Love to see such a comment. Hope you would have a woderfull day. As a Turkish I love all our Greek neighbours!

[@jexxso]

Kalimera bro

[@NapolyonKiKo]

Yes. Now, about Cyprus...

[@ExySmexy]

Can I just say how much I love this channel? Seriously why dont other channels feel like covering these types of questions

[@kasadam85]

Probably because these kind if questions don't have answers that will produce long enough videos where the content creator can be satisfied with the income. Patreon makes it up for that however so there's no excuse.

[@ronanwaring3408]

Plus most of the answers always leads to one nation anyway

[@Stand_By_For_Mind_Control]

'Questions you'd feel dumb for asking in a college history course but totally want to know the answer to'

[@whyparkjiminnotridejimin]

Agree

[@okdo5144]

Propably because you cant make a good lets play out of it

[@halfprometheus]

The people of Greece are very kind in actuality, our politicians might have manipulated the people to believe otherwise but we were neighbors and we will always be!

[@anilkarakaya9343]

This is a surprisingly well answer for otherwise a low level question

[@itschris3930]

As a Greek i dont hate the Turkish people no matter what people think. The reason why many people think that Greeks and Turkish hate each other is because of the political situation of the countries. This is dumb. Love you neighbours from Greece!!

[@kaanbeldag6060]

Love you from Turkey dude.

[@fatihmehmed2806]

Nice

[@ufuks9430]

I have had very good friendships with all the Greeks I have met so far. The real problem is the fucking states. Anyone who is smart knows this. And ı m turk ;)

[@emreyilmaz4354]

same here man

[@itskd4355]

as I am a turkish love you bro

[@WilliamTehConqueror]

Having Gibraltar, the Suez, and Constantinople as the British sounds like a Hoi4 achievement Edit: lots of Turkiye bois lol.

[@jamesburdian56]

Mediterranean soup

[@Xristos888]

@@jamesburdian56 Tea*

[@glocksmith226]

That just makes them tooo powerful.

[@Xristos888]

@@glocksmith226 true they would be to op

[@glocksmith226]

@@Xristos888 yeah I mean at least they would have given it to the French. But france can't have nice things, there has to be limit this is the reason why British empire collapsed dreaming too much having an empire hard to control, which will be questioned in coming centuries how the hell did they do it all.

[@Hand-in-Shot_Productions]

I watched this again, and I found this quite informative! I also found the "background" wordplay at 0:25 quite funny! Thanks for making this!

[@florenceoztas6186]

The Greek King was actually Danish . It is his wife who was German (Kaiser’s sister) .

[@valentinr.dominguez2892]

The Danish monarchy is ethnically German.

[@genbab6989]

The funny thing about the British threat of war over the strait was how when they gave their military the order to give Turkey the ultimatium their own general refused and decided to negotiate. Because outside of the PM and like 2 or 3 other Liberals, no one wanted or supported the war. It actually ended up destroying the Liberal coalition because of how much it pissed off the Tories and Canada also objected to it as well despite being a colony

[@larryhall2805]

That's interesting and insightful. From another angle Turkey was probably a better steward of the straits in the long run. Under their control this stategic area was kept out of Russian/Soviet hands. Ie. Turkey has been a much more reliable ally. Please excuse any typos misspellings.

[@kasadam85]

@@larryhall2805 no worries, you fine

[@DeltaDarbyLiberator]

…Canada also objected as well despite it being a *dominion* FTFY, as Canada had already been made a dominion by 1867.

[@giansideros]

@Larry Hall the Soviets supported the Young Turks, and Kemal had friendly relations with Lenin. It wasn't only until Stalin, that the Soviets had deteriorated relations with Turkey over Kars and Armenia.

[@larryhall2805]

@@giansideros Yes, you're correct. It's just that, 1) the Turks were never warm to hard communism and 2) the Turks are historical enemies of Russia. In contrast, as much as I admire Greek history and culture, the Greeks very nearly went communist after WWII. Loyal allies in Korea, loose allies after the fall of the Soviet Union. I'm interested in your take.

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[@rachelar]

I fear its their next target 🎯

[@LIFESTDNT]

“Years and times will pass, but it will be ours again” -old popular Greek proverb.

[@huseyinsadkbolat6002]

A prayer that will not happen is not called amen --Turkish Proverb

[@Ntopios]

Never make assumptions (or start celebrating) before the end. --old Greek proverb.

[@54356776]

​@@huseyinsadkbolat6002 If you have oil ,we'll come for it all. - American proverb.

[@intelchip_x86]

peepee poopoo -- proverb

[@huseyinsadkbolat6002]

@@54356776 @54356776 There is very little oil in Turkey and you are not as strong as Usa just İstanbul is better than Greece

[@pointyheadYT]

I think what most people don't understand is that Istanbul didn't use to be as big of a city back then, as it is today. While today it has a population of 15mil+, during WW1 it had a little less than 1mil. Just like Athens for example (who's population today is 4x smaller than Istanbuls btw). Population in general didn't use to be overly centralized in 1918. So territorial disputes were more common.

[@aliardaerd]

It's more like 20 mil today.

[@Menthur]

what youre babbling about? istanbul's population is bigger than all of greek. who gives af about athen lol

[@Robin-sf3gk]

well, the whole population on the world was drastically less than today. Constantinople still was 7th biggest European city.

[@StarJes1]

​@@Robin-sf3gkalso in 1453 when the city was greeks, it was very small if u compare it to todays instanbul, turkish people built everything, so for greeks to simply take control over of such a huge city of a massive empire that lasted 6 centuries is ridicilous

[@kingdoge3016]

​@StarSnipeJessie Actually the rapid expansion of the city as we know it today started after the end of ww2, up until then it was contained to the old byzantine borders more or less

[@EthioMod]

I wonder what Boogerly Woogely's thoughts are about this whole situation.

[@BoogilyWoogily]

Which situation?

[@imonbanerjee2997]

@@BoogilyWoogily holy shi* it's the man in..... Viscous boogilywoogily jelly?

[@euivets2892]

@@BoogilyWoogily The Russo-Ukranian war that started today

[@euivets2892]

@Don’t read my profile picture Don't worry, I won't.

[@jeremias-serus]

@@euivets2892 Thank God for it, too. Russia will soon retake Constantinople and restore Christianity.

[@Saiko0001]

"Resign and let your successor deal with it" Ah yes, I'll tell my kids to get me a Master's

[@this_is_patrick]

Steal their thesis when it's time for them to get their degree. Ez.

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

I mean, it's a policy that does work on farms. It's why farmers have so many kids: loyal future labor!

[@Kmonk016]

Love Greece from Istanbul ❤

[@boufidisstavros6498]

👍👍👍from greece

[@GreekOrthodox7]

CONSTANTINOPLE* ☝🏼☦️🇬🇷

[@behicmd]

@@GreekOrthodox7yarramı konstantinople. 82 selanik 🇹🇷

[@Kmonk016]

@@GreekOrthodox7 I’m sorry but officially it’s Istanbul. On earth there is no any place as constantinople now.

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

@@Kmonk016 much like Palestine

[@redtrychguy8676]

1:33 The "Megali Idea" you mean. It literally means "The Big Idea" Saying just "megali plan" would sound like "big plan"

[@NoName-yo7ux]

Your educational videos are of immense value to everyone. Hope you keep continuing the goodwork .

[@Psychol-Snooper]

Hyperbole!

[@tammybrace6370]

They miss spelled the title its instanbul

[@DigiDoesStuff]

@@tammybrace6370 No they didn't. During the time period this video talks about, the city was still named Constantinople. It wasn't till 1923 that the name officially changed to Istanbul

[@tammybrace6370]

@@DigiDoesStuff it was a joke low since turks and greeks get ma dover the name

[@eternalfailure4081]

The part of this that always interested me was "what if a defeated country refuses (or breaks) the peace treaty?". It is common (in the UK) to think of WWI as Britain V Germany in France, about Belgium and ended with the Versailles treaty. Of course, not the case, and each losing side had it's own treaty. But what if they had refused? Would that mean the war would conti ue or restart? How could a defeated nation refuse anyway, what power would they have left?

[@ilikan99]

You see the trick we use in Turkey is to make a new government and deny any involvement with the one who lost the war, that way we never lose

[@DISTurbedwaffle918]

I suppose if they refuse, the victor has the justification to simply forcibly annex the loser or replace the existing government with a more amicable one. The loser has no power left, so they can't really stop it.

[@cagdas135]

If you are talking about WW1 cease-fire treaties just check their conditions. They were ridiculously harsh, included almost complete disarmaments and aimed to make future occupations easier. The only reason Turks had the means to fight against new occupations was because officers refused to comply. If people like Fevzi Çakmak and Kazım Karabekir disarmed, we would have a different picture.

[@michaelbayer5094]

The problem with WWI is that the defeated powers were not completely defeated. There was no decisive battle and no occupation until after the Armistice On 11/11/18 the frontiers of Germany and Turkey had not been breached (most of Austria-Hungary too).

[@RealCadde]

@@DISTurbedwaffle918 Except annexing is frowned upon, even if the defeated side refuses to make a peace deal. Otherwise, most of Europe would have since long belonged to a single monarch. It's all those that opposed each other that we still have so many different nations in Europe and no single mega superpower. The looser cannot stop it but others will eventually put a stop to it if a war goes on long enough. And if the victor cannot be stopped by any coalition of opposing nations then the victor will still be stopped by its very own people. For example, the US didn't technically lose the Vietnam war. But because it dragged on for so long, without achieving the goals they set out to achieve, the people of the US started themselves opposing any continued involvement by the US in the Vietnam war. So on paper, the US lost the war when they pulled out.

[@zekihamzaoglu9608]

The main issue was and is Megali Kolo, which they did/ do not have.

[@BartlomiejDmowski]

Greece: We are descendants of Rome and Ancient Greece! Britain: (does it mean I'll have to give them back all Ancient Greek treasures I have in the British Museum?) Britain: No, you are not

[@lokischeissmessiah5749]

if they are the descendants of rome, and rome looted so much of the british resources and never gave them back, then it's only fair the british keep those ancient treasures. even steven :)

[@BartlomiejDmowski]

@@lokischeissmessiah5749 I don’t know if they can be equally compared

[@lokischeissmessiah5749]

@@BartlomiejDmowski why not

[@user-yw9js3rz2j]

As a greek fan i greatly appreciate you covering a subject not just on greek history, but MODERN greek history. A subject not widely talked about. Thanks!!!

[@jaidengabriel1675]

@@fusionreactor7179 Balkan person spotted

[@user-yw9js3rz2j]

@@fusionreactor7179 Oh come on it's not THAT bad. Our beaches are pretty nice plus the people are just wonderful.

[@kmmmsyr9883]

@@user-yw9js3rz2j Plus, it's a country you can easily find Turkish food, a plus in my book

[@objectdefiance4027]

@@kmmmsyr9883 Yeah. I've not eaten much Turkish food other than kebabs but their pretty good. Also I really like the Fez!

[@user-yw9js3rz2j]

@@kmmmsyr9883 I know right? It's great how available are cuisines not only from countries that greek food was inspired by and inspired, but from all over the world.

[@matheuspinho4987]

*Allies:* give land *Turks:* no *Allies:* but you lost the war *Turks:* and?

[@Yanate1991]

average chad balkanite vs virgin western power

[@glassman1130]

Ok and

[@turplexx233]

@Dreams independence or death! Our grand grandfathers gave all their things to GNA(Grand National Assembly), they even gave their bodies. Because we were all know that if we dont fight, they will kill all of us. We saw this in Trabzon, if Topal Osman didnt save the city, Greeks in Northeastern Black Sea would genocide us. Same for Aegan Coasts. Hasan Tahsin (actually it was his father name because he was an agent during Sultan Abdulhamit II's times, in *Yıldız Teşkilatı*. He shoted the Greek commander and started the independence war in Aegan.

[@SiPakRubah]

I mean, the war that happened in Gallipoli at least during WW1 really shows how powerful they're

[@petr79]

@@turplexx233 Nah, you would have been probably renaimed to Osmanopoulos.

[@arkady714]

I love these videos but after seeing a few of them, one must ask one single question: Did anything happen on Earth between the Middle Ages until the 1980s that DIDN'T involve British greed???

[@yunustahakosoglustudent2626]

Notice how we never actually fought against england but always either another race or country that they supported. Almost none of the british soldiers were actually british.

[@emperornapoleon6204]

Tsar Nicholas bouncing along in the background; the British claiming Mare Nostrum, and all the other humor cleverly thrown in. This channel is gold! May it prosper evermore.

[@rileycartee8357]

Because of completely unrelated events can you do an episode on the 2014 Crimea War

[@chelseacomps829]

🤣🤣

[@worlddd7777]

It was not war, Russians took their land back and people in Crimea didnt mind.

[@jaidengabriel1675]

@@worlddd7777 what else should he call it, "The 2014 occupation of Crimea?"

[@balabanasireti]

@@worlddd7777 Be quiet, bot

[@worlddd7777]

@@jaidengabriel1675 It was referendum where people voted 90% to join Russia. In 1954 Crimea was given to Ukraine by Hruschov, who was Ukranian by the way. How do u call US invasion of Iraq with lies about weapons of mass destruction? How do u call US invasion of Yugoslavia in 1999 with false genocide narrative? Putin is doing exactly what US has been doing for decades now.

[@keelfly]

Nice video but it really didn't give an answer to the question. The answer is Because the big powers would be having the same problem, they started to fix in the first place. They would have given a single country, Greece, control of the area. The solution was, give Turkey the passage, and control of the Aegean Sea to the Greeks while at the same time giving the opportunity to the Ottomans to b rebranded, and become their allies. Playing one against the other when one was becoming "difficult" ensured that they will always be on top of both. Of course, GB and France would not give it to Russia either not because of the Soviet revolution, but because that would make Russia even more powerful. They also wanted to keep Russia at bay.

[@gozdeural896]

The answer was given clearly as the last point: Despite Ottoman Empire sign the Sevres and give in Istanbul, Turks did not accept Sevres and start Turkish Freedom, which ended up with today's Turkey's borders. Simply, nobody had given Turks anything, Turks get back their home and freedom by themselves. Maybe you can watch again. Thnx.

[@achocot]

@@gozdeural896 Turkey had just lost in the second world war. Nobody was going to give Turkey anything. Also Constantinople had a lot of diversity at the time, with 500k muslims, 200 greek orthodox etc. You can't put all areas of modern Turkey in one basket. They had completely different histories and demographics.

[@baharaysan6981]

@@achocot first world war* and as you said even if there was diversity, Turks were an absolute majority and everybody in Anatolia knew abouth the City because it was the capital of the Empire they lived under since their grand grand grand grand father (also their taxes going to Istanbul as long as they knew)

[@championgundyr1092]

Answer is simple, greeks didnt get the Istanbul because they lost the war. That's it.

[@andreap8343]

Never thought it this way. By allowing the turks to take back the strait and the City and at the same time give control of 99% of the Aegean Sea to the Greeks, the British created a stalemate where no country could completely own the total passage of the strait. Brilliant plan.

[@battlebaum3440]

at 1:25 which city is south of Berlin and east of Paris? is it Prague? or maybe Salzburg...

[@leokber5289]

Vienna

[@battlebaum3440]

Ah didnt look like it on the map

[@kotyrollins]

Out for 3 hours and seen by over 115,000 people. Thank you for teaching history on a grand scale. -aspiring history teacher.

[@Tyrkia123]

I love that you have kept the same style of animation since the beginning, it's charming

[@zepher_blackstoc2366]

“Resign and let your successor deal with it.” Now where have I heard that because.

[@Venator-Class_Star_Destroyer]

"the city has fallen. the city has fallen" - A song about the fall of constantinople. Roma Aeterna. Aeterna Victrix

[@uwaisessa6892]

Simplistic, fast, easily digestible and entertaining/interesting. This channel really does it all

[@robw9435]

This channel is to Millenials what Schoolhouse Rock was to Gen X.

[@Zatara023]

Great topic! As a greek with roots from there, this was very informative.

[@Eazy-ERyder]

It's definitely a modern possibility.

[@jimtaylor294]

Britain in another worldline: *achieves mare nostrum for herself in 1919* Mussolini in that world: "£₩€×!"

[@americancaesar6065]

A big reason the Greeks wanted that coast was because a great many Christian greeks also lived on the Ionian Coast. After the Turks pulled of their victory, many greeks fled Anatolia in a panic to the greek mainland, and in fact many greek settlements can be found on the coast, abandoned and untouched since their flight

[@octomagnus7029]

The Greek governor of Smyrna said this about ethnic Greeks in Anatolia during the Greco Turkish war : It is better for us, if they stay here and get slaughtered by Ataturk, than for them to go to Greece and instill chaos in our country" Basically, Greeks wanted it. But didn't wanna fight for it. They didn't care about the people. They wanted the great powers to magically spoon-feed them the territory

[@abedbbb7083]

No it is not about the Greeks living there because the majority were Muslims , Greece had that dream of greater Greece by getting all the lands of historical Greek cities and still dreaming about it but they expected that the European powers will fight their fight with them like they did or let be more precise Britain had created Greece itself without the British intervention the Greeks had zero chance of secession from the Ottomans but the Greeks realized later that they are puppets and when their ambitions does not go along with the European powers they will be sacrificed

[@Panos_Stayis]

Τo say the whole truth as it has, regardless of the politically correct politeness constantly being expected from all of us, the Greeks of Asia Minor fled in panic because they were been slaughtered already before the coming of the Greek army in Smyrna (which was the reason why the Greeks had taken the advantage to expand on 1920). The Turkish state is well known for the barbaric treatment of minorities (the Armenian Genocide is another typical example), the same was happening to the Greek population well before the Greek expedition in Asia Minor. Whoever wants to know details, he can read what George Horton or Ernest Hemingway wrote about the genocidal actions of the Kemalists - not to mention what the Greeks have to say about the issue. And of course it wasnt about Kemalism after all - it is about culture.

[@__semidulce]

@@Panos_Stayis Why don't you mention the "devil battalion" of the Greek army which plandered and burned our cities, raped, mutilated and killed our people, not the man on the warfare but the vulnerable woman and children in order to change the demographics of the cities to later claim that the Greek population was higher there? I have nothing against the fact Greece has its own independence, as the Turkish nation we fought for it too. What so funny here is, you declared independence over the Ottomans and then declared war against the Ottomans acting as the puppets of the countries which did not even think you were important enough to give the Constantinapole to, then you massacred our people and when we defend ourselves doesn't matter as the Ottoman Empire or as Kemalists you are calling us barbarians? What about what the Turkish people have to say about this issue? You can not play the victim over a war that you started and massacred our people to get even more land, as you said "the advantage to expand on 1920". How did you take the advantage? By asking nicely?

[@yo2trader539]

The history of the region is rather tragic considering that many people in Turkey are descendants of Turkified Greeks, Armenians, Kurds, Iranian, and Baltic Slavs. Original Turks are Northeast Asian and genetically and culturally similar to Mongolians.

[@awc6007]

“What was Vietnam like after the Vietnam War?” for a future video?

[@Robin-jk6wz]

Not too peachy, I think.

[@dragonace119]

@@Robin-jk6wz At least they helped liberate Cambodia from the Khmer Rouge so there's that.

[@Robin-jk6wz]

@@dragonace119 Yeah, that was pretty based; I just think that they could have been better if we (US & friends) didn't fucked them over.

[@brandonlyon730]

@@dragonace119 Though China later on invaded them.

[@dragonace119]

@@brandonlyon730 They pushed them back though so there's that.

[@cloudshifter]

It's another classic case of British going "Greeks don't deserve this" as they have done numberous times with Greek historical artifacts such as the Parthenon marbles.

[@DursunX]

fairly accurate

[@francesco8000]

Moral of the story: the members of the Entente were so greedy to get as much land as possible that they ended up getting a lot less.

[@elemperadordemexico]

The bankers were the entente

[@Nostripe361]

The sad thing is they had the chance to create lasting peace in Europe but greed and desire for vengeance squandered the negotiations and led to Europe’s eventual collapsing into the US and USSR’s chessboard

[@eodyn7]

@@Nostripe361 and now Europe has a babysitter.

[@brandonlyon730]

Not like the central powers were much better, look at all the territory Germany took in there treaty with Russia.

[@evelynalex8787]

@@Nostripe361 lol, bitch about it, Europoors.

[@jaydenjayden3990]

I love how Joining the central power you get what you want and Joining the Allies there is a 99.999% that the British and french are going to ignore Literally any gains you want after helping them fight the largest war in history at the time.

[@christianweibrecht6555]

Hard to imagine what would happen to Greece and the Ottomans if they remained neutral

[@UnholyWrath3277]

@@christianweibrecht6555 if they were neutral all throughout they likely wouldn't have changed much other then the ottomans survive longer. Neither side would have had much an appetite for more war after WW1 ended and both Greece/turkey likely could have resisted whichever side won in that universe

[@kasadam85]

@@UnholyWrath3277 The invasion of middle east would happen anyway but I think Ottomans can handle it as long as it is fighting a single state or front.

[@kasadam85]

German Empire betrayed Ottomans about their promises in Caucasus region by attacking them with Russian uniforms after an agreement done with Georgians. Sad how this happened before the was even over.

[@christianweibrecht6555]

@@kasadam85 such an outlandish claim will be dismissed until you provide citation

[@lumpyspaceprincess6335]

İ just thought you weren't gonna mention the most important one😅

[@Rubeus_Hagrid]

''I don't think that you have the facilities for that big man.''

[@1966bdc1984]

I have an old Rand McNally wall map of Asia that shows the area from Constantinople to the Dardanelles labeled "Zone of the Straits" and now I finally know why! Thanks for another great video.

[@Thoralmir]

"Rand McNally", isn't that where hamburgers eat people? :p

[@galatheumbreon6862]

Turkey: we won't accept your deal UK: oh really? well we have something to say about that, right guys? France and Italy: *makes peace sign before fading away* UK: uhhh hehe guys... Turkey: you said something about fighting us again?

[@kasadam85]

Realistically they could've invaded the entirety of Turkiye but consequences would have been unbearable as the population isn't likely to stop rebelling.

[@kasadam85]

@Rapstick Perdelemiyor zaten ama kamu oyunu görmezden gelip istilaya devam edebilirdi ve büyük ihtimalle başarılı da olurdu ama dediğim gibi imparatorluğu yıkılmaya kadar götürebilirdi bunun masrafları.

[@eyeofthepyramid2596]

At that time Brits were dominant, they could have fought but giving it to turkey was reasonable to prevent USSR, also imagine holding against turkey, Greece and Russia ? It wasn't Brits were weak but God favoured truks

[@switchdogdotorg]

I want a 60 min interview with Kelly moneymaker

[@ryujibackyeah4189]

I was watching this shorts and it suddenly turn into teh fall of Constantinople for some reason probably glitch

[@ersanalpunlu2014]

Slight correction, Treaty of Lausanne didnt finalized Republic of Turkey's borders, it was the referandum of Antioch/Hatay that finalized the borders since they chose to join Turkey.

[@hashchief664]

Also the Treaty of Moscow. They agreed the border around what is now Georgia, Azerbaijan, and Armenia. 16 March 1921. The man sent for the signing was Halil Pasha, an uncle of Enver Pasha who Kemal actually respected, unlike his opinions of Enver.

[@sator3946]

Referendum of Antioch = 🤡🤡🤡🤡

[@kasadam85]

@@sator3946 You = 🤡

[@kasadam85]

Also the treaty of Ararat

[@hashchief664]

@@kasadam85 actually you're semi correct and I'm wrong lmao The treaty of Kars is what you're referring to which is where they actually made agreement on the three borders. The Moscow treaty was more for weapons and some assistance from the Soviets and general recognition of each others existence.

[@caitlino5753]

As an Ancient Historian who is awful with contextualising ancient with modern history. I love watching stuff like this, because sometimes I'm too wrapped up in ancient politics to see what recent influence it has, thank you!

[@elladapetrosyan9610]

As an ancient historian I hope you will never use the term ancient turkey.

[@reubenmatthews5615]

It's pretty crazy how basically all of European politics can be traced back to the Fall of Rome and the instability it caused.

[@ntinossugaro3953]

as a greek i totally feel u

[@bronzeagecollapse]

@Theo Chi With all due respect sir. The greek philosophies and sciences were inherited by the islamic cultures at the dawn of the medieval age, with most of europe, including greece itself, denoting them as pagan scriptures of little importance. It's short sighted to describe any culture as "lower in mentality" or uncultured. People have a lot to learn from eachother and if we think like this, then we cannot do that

[@bronzeagecollapse]

@Theo Chi I understood that you are saying today's turks are less cultured than greeks, which is not really true. But maybe i understood you wrong

[@DieFlabbergast]

"Under new management"! Har!

[@imperiiitalica6278]

My favorite topic from this channel since the “when did the Roman’s become Italians”. Love the creative topics!

[@aidenbooksmith2351]

You can always count on creative topics from them!

[@stephmod7434]

fun fact Greeks reffered to themselfs as "Romans" after the Greek revolution ended they started saying we are Hellenes (Greece means South Italy)

[@stephmod7434]

@@Serbest_Piyasa_Ekonomisi hahahaha!

[@lklklhiai]

@@Serbest_Piyasa_Ekonomisi bro what? You mean the opposite? Greece was never Turkey but turkey was Greece for many many years.

[@user-rq3rd9iz2e]

Roman Current ones turkey because Istanbul Constantinople 😊

[@potzilla4471]

Could you do a video on what was Europe’s response to Spain losing nearly all of their American colonies in a relatively short period of time?

[@SirFaceFone]

_Free real estate._

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

Was it any quicker than others? Spain had control of Louisiana until they gave it back to France right before Napoleon sold it.

[@potzilla4471]

@@silencemeviolateme6076 So between 1810 to 1826 they lost the majority of their colonies in the Americas from Argentina up to Mexico. They still had some territories such as the Philippines, Cuba, etc., but they lost their largest, most important colonies about a hundred years before the other Europeans lost their most important colonies.

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

@@potzilla4471 they started colonizing about a hundred years earlier too. The 1500s was dominated by the Spanish. The English empire in the east was built on the Portuguese empire.

[@muhtarbey8457]

One background note that due to Ottoman defending on Çanakkale British help couldn't reach Russia (which was really needed that time food etc.) and communist revolution occurred.

[@topdecker1334]

i did not know that saarland is world wide known

[@Shuuchi0676]

I swear, 99% of the questions on this channel can be answered with "Cuz Britain and France".

[@silencemeviolateme6076]

Yes. That's the modern world. Go back to the middle ages and you won't hear a peep out of them. The ottoman invasion of Constantinople started the age of discovery. Western Europe dominates because the ottomans cut off the silk road.

[@oliversherman2414]

I love your channel keep up the great stuff!

[@bloodborne410]

As a bloodlust beast i approve

[@kingflumph5968]

I'm a fan of the channel! I would like to ask, would it be possible for the description to include the sources used for the information? I often find myself wanting to do more reading and it would be great to have a jumping off point. Thank you kindly!

[@mrgeetar5421]

It's always nice when History Matters uploads at night.

[@delano4526]

For me its the Afternoon

[@funnyman4744]

AURELIAN???

[@mrgeetar5421]

@@funnyman4744 hello fellow Aurelian fan

[@postblitz]

If you paid attention to this video you'll note the main reason was Turkish defeat of Greek invading forces. Greece could've done a *fait accomplit* had they managed to kick ass and just take it by force.

[@valentinomc]

In order to take, you must fight and win.

[@pjvish]

I actually live in Sèvres and the building used for the Treaty is now an art museum. Not very useful information, but I thought it was a fun coincidence

[@tadopoulostadopoylos5864]

SEVRES est pres de paris?

[@pjvish]

@@tadopoulostadopoylos5864 oui ! À quelques kilomètres seulement

[@gagetolinwrites6845]

During the Ottoman Partitions, there was almost a Republic of Pontus for the Pontic Greeks. That's just an interesting little tidbit

[@ludogatari9558]

There was also a Republic of Tamrash and the Republic of Western Thrace for the Pomaks and Turks in Bulgaria and Greece.

[@xELITExKILLAx]

Man that’s too bad that never happened

[@ludogatari9558]

@@xELITExKILLAx Well it depends. For me, a Turk whose paternal ancestors are from that region, it might not have been so nice and we would have been killed or exiled.

[@johny7even]

@Ludogatari Good for you your ancestors massacred the ancient inhabitants of this land ;P

[@Kaiyanwang82]

@@ludogatari9558 I am (little) part Rûm but that side of the family fled to Sicily. It was foolish all around, it happened all over Europe (this is something sometimes Turks misunderstand when these things are pointed out, or because of the ignorance of the accuser, as if only them are accused of being guilty of this). We could have strived for understanding and having brothers in our neighbor's garden and neighbors in ours teaching us language and culture. But what happened is that nationalism was at its most ferocious state. But maybe I am deluded, and the sad reality is minorities are exploited by a foreign aggressor to take your land - see what is happening in Ukraine right now. And those ethnic cleansing on all sides, in 1900s, lived in the terror that any shown mercy could be used against them.

[@Jsmith2024]

Interesting.

[@aymanshamil]

Ataturk : wanna hear a joke Greece : yeah Ataturk : Constantinople Greece : i don't get it Ataturk : exactly

[@kasadam85]

Ataturk: and guess what? Greece: what? Ataturk: it ain't even called Constantinople no more fam ( 1930 )

[@Random-World-Eater]

@@kasadam85 Only if you consider turkey to be a county instead of a bird! OOH!

[@yigit2167]

@@Random-World-Eater Cringe

[@Random-World-Eater]

@@yigit2167 Your whalecum.

[@kasadam85]

@@Random-World-Eater Jokes on you, it's actually "Turkiye" now haha

[@pabcu2507]

If only James bissonette was there, he could’ve achieved it

[@JB-yb4wn]

James has solved much more difficult problems than this. Really should be up for a Nobel Peace prize or something.

[@zhangjeff238]

James Bissonette, one of the most hidden and richest person of all time

[@jamesbissonette8002]

Doubt it

[@therodyman700]

James bissonette could have bankrolled the resurrection of the roman empire

[@burakalp34]

Well then thankfully he wasn't there

[@bkirkbir]

Yoo, try explaining the Turkish Independence war, you will be amazed.

[@CuneytKoroglu]

Tittle should be “why Greece couldn’t “ they ve always and will have the will to get but it ll just stay as their “megali idea” dream. Sweet dreams dear neighbors. 😘😇

[@kotsoskotsou8864]

Constatinople will eventually become Greek again. Even if it is 1000 years from now. Not a big idea, just the natural order of things.

[@hopelessk3055]

@@kotsoskotsou8864 xDddddddd okay.. with a %80-85 Turkish and %15 Arabic population of 20 million FOR SURE it will be Greek How delusional u can be honestly

[@GuildsmanPirate]

Here’s an idea: Why did Montenegro, despite being a member of the Entente, lose sovereignty and become annexed into Yugoslavia after WWI

[@MrRogerogerio]

The fact that this event is so obscure makes it such a perfect History Matters video subject.

[@imperiumCirca41]

It's the Entente, they didn't care Also I like to think because Austria-Hungary occupied it,It left the Serbians alone with the option to decide Montenegro's future and that was annexation,just my idea though

[@alexaurum913]

From what I know about early Yugoslavia it wasn't as much of an annexation as much as a (mostly) willing union. Montenegrin kings and people at the time did believe that their future is to at one point unite with Serbia. These ideas didn't take off until it was discovered that the King of Montenegro was willing to make a separate peace with the central powers, thereby betraying the Entente. After the country was liberated the pro Serbian politicians took the initiative and agreed to become a part of Yugoslavia. There were still those loyal to the king and and independent Montenegro, and they revolted, but with no success. Today you will mostly see it characterised as a forceful occupation and annexation , but it would be wrong to say that nobody in Montenegro was actually on board with it at the time. Montenegro remained mostly pro Yugoslavia/Pro Serbia for the rest of the 20th century, untill Đukanović took power. But then again, we'll never know whether or not Serbia would have respected Montenegro's wishes had it not decided to join. The truth is that, even if it wasn't immediate, Montenegro would most likely become a part of Yugoslavia no matter what.

[@vasilije94]

That is quite a simple answer. Montenegro is a country populated by serbs. Montenegrians are serbs. They just lived under a different entity. After ww1 they themselves voted to join the kingdom of Serbia because they are serbs. They couldnt do it before because Austro Hungarian Empire was against Serbian people uniting because there were serbs in Bosnia which Austro Hungaria anexed. Also that is why Austro Hungarian Empire made Albania out of nothing after balkan wars that happened few years before WW1 so it doesnt give Kingdom of Serbia acess to sea even though majority of people there were serbs and Serbia and Montenegro together fought of Otomans from the land. Long story short, after WW1 there was no longer Austro Hungarian Empire to to block serbs from Montenegro to unite with rest of the serbs so they voted themselves and joined Kingdom of Serbia. Simple.

[@eltonbacaj2882]

@@vasilije94 Albania Serbs ? Where did you get your history books from ? If anything Montenegro is more Albania then anything. Especially in the south they all speak Albanian.

[@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos]

There was a collision of negative coincidences. 1) Greece was given a German King in 1832, which made us neutral for the time but made us an enemy of Britain after German unification. In the same time, Austria Prussia and Germany were always allies of Turkey, so that made us vulnerable on the double. 2) Britain actually offered Constantinople to Greece if we joined them against the Turks in Gallipoli, but our German King said no, the British lost, and when they finally won afterwards by themselves they owed us no favour. 3) Greek politicians realised the king's destructive role and sent him into exile in order to fight with Britain, but in the meantime Turks had time to exterminate Armenians and Pontian Greeks, so they wouldn't have to fight in two fronts later. 4) when we actually invaded Anatolia, the Russian Revolution had just happened, which meant Greece lost its best supporter and ally, and Turkey automatically lost its worst enemy and won a friend, because Greece fought against the Bolsheviks. 5) Russia apart from being the best and natural ally of Greece as the biggest orthodox country in the world, was also the only reason why the West supported Greece over Turkey. Greece was favoured by the British so as not to collaborate with Russia and give Russia access to the Mediterranean. Since Greece was hostile to the USSR and Turkey was friendly, the West starting flattering Turkey so that they don't become communist, which was the danger now. So Turkey in 1922 won with Russian and French guns. 6) the King out of spite slandered the politicians who threw him out of power as responsible for leading the country into war, and when we should be fighting the hardest, the royal politicians were saying we're fighting for no reason and the King will end the war as soon as he's brought back. The Greeks were stupid enough to vote for him, and Greece in 1920 had a German King again, which sent Britain straight to the arms of Kemal Atatürk. After coming into power he knew he should continue the war, because it was matter of survival, but being reluctant to work with Britain and Germans being always pro Turkish he lost any allies. So it was no wonder the front collapsed in 1922 because Turkey had everyone on its side and Greece was alone. 7) Europe may have supported Greece to put pressure on Turkey and Russia, but never wanted to see a Roman empire again, which questioned their self proclaimed status of heirs of ancient Greek and Roman heritage. The Vatican firmly opposed Constantinople turning Greek, to the point of favouring it remaining Muslim than Orthodox. 8) Kemal Atatürk was a very clever and strong leader, who took advantage of the favourable circumstances and the chaotic policy of Greece and put the nail on the coffin of any Greek empire. Turks after the fall of the sultan didn't have a vacuum of power and had immediately a new leader. 9) In conclusion, the treasonous role of the Greek King and royal party, the naivete and fatigue of the Greek people, the reluctance of the West to see a Greek Orthodox empire, good Turkish strategy and leadership, and most importantly the Bolshevik Revolution, made it impossible for thr Greeks to realise their Big Idea of freeing Aya Sofya. Because man has his plans but God has His own.

[@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos]

@Y. Emrah Özdaş you are confusing 1912 with 1922.

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

Very good response. Well said.

[@philippmaqs8799]

That #7. lmao

[@Thanos_Kyriakopoulos]

@@philippmaqs8799 the Orthodox church has martyrs both from Roman emperors, Arab khalifs, Turkish sultans and Catholic Popes. In the orthodox calendar we commemorate many monks who were butchered or tortured to death by Catholic soldiers for not converting. During ww2 the Vatican supported a Croat general who massacred thousands of Serb orthodox and is now a saint of the Catholic church. The German army starved the whole city of Athens to death but the Vatican promised food only if we converted, and we suffered famine under the Italian army while the Turks sent us supplies!!! But you won't hear that in the Pope's Christmas speech (my turn to laugh)

[@angelb.823]

There are some mistakes. 1) Britain offered Cyprus, not Constantinople, during the Gallipoli campaign. There were literally no plans to include Constantinople in Greece's borders. The only talks to take Constantinople away from the Turks was through the secret talks with Imperial Russia during negotiations regarding the partition of the Ottoman Empire during the ongoing WWI. Even when Russia fell into civil war, Britain and the other Entente allies were reluctant to handle the City to the Greeks. Part of this was the fear of British officials about Muslim insurrection (the Ottoman Sultan was still the Caliph [the religious leader of the Muslim world]) in British-occupied countries with Muslim population (e.g. British Raj). By discarding the Ottoman Sultan and Caliph would meant that the British would have to deal with the ire of their British Muslim subjects in their colonial empire. Another was the Entente's distaste and hate for the German-Danish-Greek royal family as stated in the video. No way they would allow a German king to become Emperor of the Greeks/Romans in the throne of Constantinople. 2) Even when the German Greek King (Constantine) returned during the Greco-Turkish war, the British public didn't support Kemal directly, only its allies, France and Italy, through their guns. That doesn't mean they fully supported Greece neither, with the exception of the moral support of David Lloyd George. Until the end of the Greco-Turkish war, the British public was staunchly neutral to the conflict. The British public even opposed David Lloyd George's plan to counter the Turks at the Chanak Crisis, leaving the British troops to evacuate from Anatolia and Constantinople shortly thereafter. The Treaty of Lausanne followed afterwards, and the everything else is history.

[@aiurea1]

Can i use your video without the sound?

[@Menckenperson]

Can someone explain the “don’t worry about it” line in the succession to Rome timeline

[@declannewton2556]

Video Idea: How did citizens of Eastern Bloc countries view, or rather were presented, electoral politics in the West, if at all. Would there be any coverage beforehand of Western elections? Or would the media just say one morning somebody just won an election in the UK or America?

[@strategossable1366]

iirc, the standard line was that the elections were all decided by the large money interests and the common people had little to no power over the elections

[@maximilianbeyer5642]

@@strategossable1366 sounds surprisingly accurate, at least for the us

[@MidlifeCrisisJoe]

@@strategossable1366 Yeah . . . that's totally, completely a li- er, um, and exag- hmm, well, kind of too accurate for comfort really.

[@CDexie]

Oof. While the Soviets were a lot more overt with their repression, don't think for a second that Western democracies didn't simply "present" the politics of the Eastern Bloc. It was the Cold War after all

[@declannewton2556]

@@CDexie I'm well aware the West did present Eastern bloc politics in to fit a narrative. For example most people today don't know that East Germany did in fact have multiple parties. But I'm just curious on how things were on the otherside of the Iron Curtain.

[@conserva-chan2735]

Please do a video on Transnistria. It's a tiny separatist part of Moldova that is technically the last holdout of the USSR.

[@mikemeta4908]

Watch his video " why does Moldova exist?"

[@conserva-chan2735]

@@mikemeta4908 shit, much like Transnistria I forgot that video existed. Well, a vid about Nagorno-Karabakh or South Ossetia/Abkhazia would be cool.

[@mikemeta4908]

@@conserva-chan2735 I'm with you there dude! Especially when Azerbaijan just took the region like two or three years ago.

[@0249er]

@@conserva-chan2735 if you disagree with Putin, Putin's gonna put in some new countrys into you. Sorry not sorry

[@conserva-chan2735]

@@0249er Vladimir? More like Vlad is near.

[@thehumanian634]

As a slightly oblong banana I have to say, pretty Poggers video

[@yeswonka]

“I guess I’ll just resign then.”

[@SemihG22]

Allies: You've lost the Great War Mustafa Kemal and the Turks: I didn't hear no bell

[@erdemcrpc7115]

Ulan 2 kelime İngilizce yazdığınızda bile bir sürü yanlışlar var. Gerçekten İngilizce eğitimimiz bok gibiymiş.

[@atlascandemir8067]

@@erdemcrpc7115 yanlış olabilir de, slang konuşunca anadili İngilizce olanlar da böyle kullanıyo, ve de meme zaten, I didn't hear no ... veya I didn't do no ...

[@SemihG22]

@@atlascandemir8067 dur hacı. Bırak meme kendini yaratmış ne güzel.

[@atlascandemir8067]

@@SemihG22 gerçekten

[@Fuad_Haciyev57]

By the way it was Russian bolsheviks who provided Mustafa Kemal with nessecary arms and money to fight the Greeks and reconquer Greek occupied part of Anatolia. This victory made British military withdraw from Constantinople and led to establishment of modern Turkey.

[@ancient7716]

I wanna explain this from the perspective of Turkey: After the invasion, Mustafa Kemal quickly moves to Samsun from Istanbul (Istanbul was heavily under control of invading countries, and government was held a gun to their head to sign anything invaders wanted, including something as detrimental as Sevr.) From Samsun, he goes to Ankara and along the way, he held congress and explains the dare situation of to all the citizens. Then he opens a parliment and gathers an army of willing Turkish citizens to join, which is later supported by Russia and other countries (weapons, food, clothes vere donated.) in order to fight back. Enemies were everywhere: South, East and West. Only safe places were Middle and Northern turkey. The army fought them all one by one and won all of these wars, even in those harsh conditions. Back then, every nation was trying to take advantage of Wilson Principles (14th point especially) to declare their independence by voting. However, Turkish people were dominant in numbers everywhere. So, intruders killed many Turkish families illegally and covered it up so that it would never be brought up. Although they failed, they killed many Turks which justified Independence War all over the country. Atatürk has a book called Nutuk where he has proofs of all these dirty tricks that they pulled against Turkey. Anyways. Ataturk's main strategy was to defend every square inch of the country. It worked very well in the end.

[@captainjim1010]

Turkish history books are seriously flawed. You need to ask the rest of the world about true facts since Turkey is not the ideal place to seek the truth. 99% of the problems you have with your neighbours are a result of this. You need to accept the countless black pages of your history in order to become a respectable country.

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

This text very conveniently ignores that: 1. Turkey never actually fought the great powers which abandoned their claims and Greece which were left alone in this war. 2. Turks committed three genocides that were not like anything they can claim of the supposed "invaders". 3. Turks were not a majority in many parts of coastal Anatolia, let alone western Armenia. All in all, you can see things as heroically as you want but you'll end up being vastly inaccurate in what you want to believe versus the reality.

[@mnd9166]

@@lefterismagkoutas4430 Just a bunch of Turkish militias defeated and forced the french to leave anatolia, cry about it.

[@ancient7716]

@Lefteris Magkoutas and your claims conveniently ignore that: A) great powers that invaded turkey harmed many people, so abandoning their claims is not good enough of a compensation (and some still supported greece until the end) B) fake documentations and corruption was wild during this age so you can't be sure whether these 'genocides' were ordered by turkish authorities that represented free will of Turkey during this era. They may as well be forcefully signed to ottoman government by western powers with blackmail. And its invalid regardless of this because that government was abolished in 2 years within the independence war due to being spineless and not representing Turkey in general. C) Turks have always been majority in Anatolia since after 1074 so this is a misinformed opinion. If at any point they were not majority, it would be proved by media that would occasionally keep track of distribution of population. There are proofs in Nutuk that Turks had higher number of population anyway. In the end, Nutuk shows us what is actually real with legal documents. Its not about believing it or not. Its already a fact.

[@serkan8149]

@@lefterismagkoutas4430 don't cry yorgo :)

[@Xeal4]

Swims King:Greece 🏊

[@pedronabais1456]

leaving out Rome in the great cities map was kinda mean lol

[@lefterismagkoutas4430]

Nice video! As a Greek I like that we get to see such topics being discussed in here!

[@DeusExHonda]

A great question that I never knew I wanted the answer to.

[@somebuddyX]

Greece was offered Istanbul but the offer was only valid until the end of 1929.