Who Can Critique The Culture? - The Boondocks Brings Up A Great Point Part 2

[@ginahouston9352]

intent must ALWAYS matter...... knowing WHY someone is talking is just as important was what they are saying... merry christmas... happy kwanzaa.... be Blessed

[@chillreview636]

Great point. Intent is key. Happy Kwanza, Merry Christmas, and a happy New year to you too!

[@Darthdoodoo]

But what do u do when people are so stuck in a victim mentality they see everything as bad intent?

[@ACE_CORP1]

@@Darthdoodoou give up on them walk away

[@ginahouston9352]

@@Darthdoodoo life is a spectrum and there will always be folks at either end... the majority of people are reasonably in the middle... it's pointless to be overly concerned w/ folks who are not reasonable b/c they will never see 😐

[@theoraexplora]

What the messenger is talking about matters too though...

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Aaron McGruder took on the most thankless, non-respected, gonna get you hate for doing it job, and I love him for it.

[@ModernMadeMan]

Creating the most popular black adult cartoon is a thankless non respected job? People talk about him and his show with praise everyday.

[@suslasaga2850]

good video. I am a Mexican American who has an interest in anthropology, so when I critique African American culture about being oversexualized I get called a racist despite the average African American agreeing with my sentiments. Intent absolutely does matter when critiquing other cultures though, like if I were to say "AA culture is too sexual thus AA culture is evil and should be whitewashed" that would come from hate, unlike when I say "AA culture is too sexualized and it has diffused into all youth culture in America so we should look for solutions to fix it". the intent of the criticism should come from the desire to see the people of that culture flourish, not be erased.

[@Chronis67]

The interesting part is that a lot of *white* people are the ones who are quick to say something is racist on behalf of others. They might mean well, but they it's almost as if they would rather not have the discussion so they just call it racist in hopes that it'll hide away. Meanwhile, actual racists will just double down on their stances. It creates a weird dynamic were the most well meaning seem to not want to help or at least know how to efficiently help.

[@urgandma]

And that's why nothing with change. You guys are worried about the wrong reason and intent, all while ignoring the advice whole sale no matter who it comes from. The boondocks has been proven right time and time again, and nothing has changed. The black community's hatred of black conservatives is proof they will never change, because they immediately will be called a 🦝.

[@calebangus4593]

Its more about the way you frame the question. It could come off as you attempting to claim that African American culture is “poisoning” American culture which is a common racist talking point. A better way to address over sexualization is to discuss the root of it(slavery with rape of black women and viewing black men as sexual deviants). Its important to know the history before critiquing culture because it could come off as if the problems with the culture are due to people being inherently broken.

[@jovannylbates]

African American culture is no more sexual than American culture itself that framework of conversation in itself it flawed because the projections of African American culture you see is funded and brought to you by nonafrican American gatekeepers and corporations. Truthfully as someone who is both Mexican and African American, when people to attempt to make the point you make, they ignore the centuries of blatant misogyny, oversexualization, and objectification done by Americans before hip-hop culture became prominent. Do some research on the porn industry in America and its origins, how sex has always been used for marketing and hell, even hooters and those Hardee’s commercials. Black American culture is not some new invention of women of presenting female bodies (Hugh Hefner was litterally a mogul and cultural icon) and I wish you did more research on sexism in America general. This is nothing new.

[@0vern9K]

When ppl don’t like the truth they’ll throw the word racist over anything. Don’t let it get to you. An as a black men. You are correct

[@mattman221]

Im a white guy who loves boondocks as a window in to a culture I’m not as familiar with and only have experience with cause of friends and some family, but I think your message of “if someone has a point and it’s for the best intentions why not listen” is the best you can take away. An open discussion is the only way we can erase ignorance.

[@mattman221]

I also died at the “even if they just call me coon” lol

[@Alias3141]

But that's not an easy path to power in a conversation, so ignorant mfs will never choose to engage in good faith if they can instead put you down in bad faith.

[@mattman221]

That’s why those of us with good faith and integrity have the strength to stand and call those out who have ill intentions. We have to the stubborn mfs who help even if we are labeled something else.

[@predalien1413]

Intent and context are the literal foundations of reality.

[@chillreview636]

Idk if you ever watched Avatar the last airbender, but I read your comment in Guru Patek's voice and it was very enlightening

[@chosoistryinghisbest]

i think intent always matters. i think no matter how 'good' a point is, if it's being delivered maliciously, it doesn't matter how 'good' the critque is. i think of it like the quote "honesty without compassion is cruelty. kindness without honesty is manipulation." if your goal of honesty is to just be a jerk, then I think no matter what you say, it's cruelty and therefore I won't listen. you can't just be blatantly mean and disrespectful to someone and then tell them that they should deal with it because you're right. for example, "she has trust issues and that's why everyone leaves her. and it's probably because she doesn't have a father figure." if you have trust issues, it could lead to relationship problems. but the added part about not having a dad was thrown in to be mean. like it could apply to the person, but the way it's being brought up insensitively, makes you know that they only brought it up to be mean to this person. like the situation. maybe they were right, but their intent was to be mean and jab at someone, therefore even if there was good critque, i think it's meaningless because they don't say it to help anyone in the situation. but I also adhere to the second part too. let's say you go in the complete opposite direction and just say that nothing is wrong and that critque isn't needed. well now you're just delusional and that's also not helping. unfortunately, even if you want to keep the peace, it'll only make it harder in the future to correct mistakes. and soon they spiral into bigger issues. so these uncomfortable situations have to happen. i obviously think that people of a culture have the right (and the responsibility) to critique their own culture. but i think part of me is hesitant to say out loud that other people outside the culture can comment. Logically, with my whole comment I want to say others can critique others' cultures, but part of me is hesitant because of 2 things. 1) what do they know and understand? why should their opinions weigh the same (or even at all) as the people who actually are a part of the culture and spent their lives with it? 2) historically, misunderstandings of cultures has led to extremely bad things to happen to marginalized groups. at best, mild racism. at worst, genocide. why should outsiders keep getting a word.

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Bro can't believe someone called you *oonish over such a common sense, reasonable take. Sorry to hear that brother-from-'nother mother. We don't always agree but I always appreciate your well-constructed arguments, easy-to-follow logic, and _SMOOOVE VOICE_ stay up Edit: censored the actual word because YT likes to delete my comments

[@chillreview636]

No need to feel sorry for me. I get to make videos about my favorite works of art and have discussions with thousands of fellow fans across the world. A few ignorant people calling me names could never diminish that lol. Appreciate the kind words and the support brotha!

[@batistejames4539]

I love the video. I’ve been on a journey of stepping out of this box that i’ve been in for a majority of my life of things which you described in this video. Trying to be open-minded and being my own thinker and judge righteously and accordingly. I acknowledge that as of late, the culture has been on the downslope - the music, the public portrayals, idols and ideas. I support your thinking - regardless of those that disagree because it’s been a long time of waiting for people like you and many others to speak about these topics.❤

[@fun364]

Excellent topic that can go many ways. One direction this takes me in is the overwhelming power of outrage culture. Terrible messengers get a loud, visceral and lasting reaction while those who deserve our time go relatively ignored. These algorithms pray on our emotions and make sure an unfunny comedian is heard by more of us than great voices such as Shahrazad Ali, Dr. Claude Anderson, etc. who criticize the culture with love & good intentions.

[@chillreview636]

That's is true. We often end up focusing too much on the negative side of things for the sensationalism. Hopefully as a culture we start to gain more ability to discern what is and isn't worth our time

[@j2k478]

One thing that I do hate about how people talk about black peoples snd soul food is they have an assumption that we are eating this shit 24/7, I really only eat big soul food meals on holidays. And to the other unhealthy food, if you’re in an area where the cheaper food is not the healthiest, but you’re penny pinching, you’re gonna get that regardless

[@chillreview636]

Good point!

[@Sondi]

I had an argument recently with some online friends and this video hit my rec at the right time. We were talking about my disdain for rock music in comparison to his for rap music ( I'm black and their white) and a big sticking point they kept saying was about the culture of rap as to why they don't like rap music over the intent of the song or album. They couldn't separate the noise surrounding the genre to even truly listen to a rap project. It had me questioning how much culture can truly affect how we even engage with media on a deeper level. Great video~

[@ivanbluecool]

Honestly what makes boondocks special is as you grow or learn I see different views on which character is right or wrong and even understand the satire of the situation Example the Rosa parks scene with granddad being the first to say no was basically a subtle node at how Rosa wasn't the first to not give up her seat and another lady was but nobody cares enough to support her until decades later The Tyler Perry jokes on light skin vs darker skin that boondocks funny enough fell into making ruckus the darkest guy and evil Or even how I don't like how boondocks takes the assault of men in jail as a joke for the most part especially now a days.

[@runescapist9710]

Another great video, I never comment but had to show some love. Very interesting perspective as always, your channel has such a unique and objective view on minor details in some of my favorite series. Your voice gives me a weird sense of calm, and reminds me of old adult swim (not sure why). Love your content, here’s to a great 2025!

[@chillreview636]

Hey - Thanks for watching and thanks for the kind words! As someone who grew up watching Adult Swim that's a huge compliment

[@youtubesucks-z2d]

I like this video, well developed thoughts, presented in a good way

[@gunsup0331]

my nigga i served with. put me on Boondocks. Hes a healthy, intelligent and productive member of his town. he got halfricans running around left and right. he done married a white woman. they still together. aint seen the man in almost 20 years and he still my brother.

[@JimmNeutricity]

A discussion in good faith with someone willing to listen.

[@TeamNoAffiliation]

So, I believe the critiques should come from people inside said communities. Only because, if you haven't lived and grown up with certain things within said community, you'll miss major aspects of why certain things happen within the community. The full experience can build a better critique.

[@chillreview636]

That's a great point. I do think there's something to be said for how being too close to something can blind you to certain aspects of it though. An outsider might bring a prespective that someone within the culture never considered because that perspective didn't exist within that culture.

[@juju_stinson]

Thank you for the year chill, youve brought me to many realizations and confirmed or supported many ideas i have, your videos have helped me grow as a person as im transitioning into adult hood after turning 18 this year

[@TheUAProdigy]

We understand nuance at all times, so who says what and why is important; this then shapes how you digest the information given that it is factually correct.

[@mankey2919]

7:56 saying rap causes violence in the black community is like saying video games causes school shootings. Which can be a solid argument until we take into account the millions of people who aren’t compelled to join the military because they played COD as a kid. There may be black people who joins in on gang violence cause of media. But the argument doesn’t take into account the millions of rap fans who just live their lives simply being fans.

[@dennisnaffah8733]

Honest conflict has more social value than dishonest harmony

[@asdghhjkkwoowri]

Thank you, Chill. Those last couple minutes of the video meant a lot to me

[@chillreview636]

Thanks for listening! Hope the new year is good to you

[@BobDole1216]

As a white person, I think that people are undeniably able to speak on whatever they want but people are also able to take or leave those opinions for any reason, and "you are not part of this group and will never have real insight into this experience" is one of the simplest and most valid reasons to not be interested in someone's opinion. Lill Bill recently mentioned in a video that he's not interested in hearing any white person's thoughts on hip-hop, even people like Professor Skye and Anthony Fantano, and that's a 100% valid stance. I think that the most important aspect is that if you *are* going to comment on a group you don't belong to, especially a marginalized group, you'd better a) come respectfully and with good intentions and b) be prepared to get checked when you fuck up and act out of line due to not knowing something

[@sanjayr]

Lil Bill can feel that way, but when it comes to Hip Hop, the earliest foundations of the culture were multi-racial and inclusive. Rap might have been and continue to be a black dominated arena of Hip Hop as a culture and if that's specifically what you mean (which is fair the two are often used interchangeably) i think that's fair, but the culture doesn't only belong to black people and i would argue the same is true for rap nowadays, which has become a multi-billion dollar globalized music industry.

[@calebangus4593]

@@sanjayrI don’t think its fair to say the culture doesn’t belong to black people. Should our culture be taken away from us just because its popular? This has happened multiple times to black people from whites taking rock and roll from us. We are fine with sharing the culture, but that doesn’t mean we should be fine with giving it up

[@dominiquesmith7680]

@@sanjayrRap and hip hop will always be owned and created by black people. Regardless of how big it gets, how inclusive it’s been, and how much it’s grown in diversity and inclusion. It’s a black dominated art form that was created specifically for and by BLACK PEOPLE with help of course from other groups of people. Whether it’s popular or not hip hop and rap will always be centered and focused around black people period

[@just_your_localguard9612]

​@@dominiquesmith7680it seems you guys forgot that the first rappers where white

[@just_your_localguard9612]

My opinion on it is no community above criticism, and I'm not gonna sugar coat it because they are a minority. Truth often hurts.

[@FrankFreezy_]

I think you hit the nail on the head brother. Intent is the most important thing. Criticism that comes from the need to make progress will always be more welcome than criticism made to push an agenda against us. Great video and insights as always👏🏾 Buzz Lightyear🚀

[@sofa_king_kool]

Spouting a dumb, uninformed opinion only to be told about the broader, deeper picture can lead to a change in perspective, if not a change in opinion. At least sometimes... It's why (I like to think) free speech results in a better society, by-and-large sense and truth is self-evident. Love the amount of thought that goes into your videos, hope it brings ya happiness dude!

[@TylerDavis-ne5ux]

You hit the nail on the head with Intent

[@INSANECRAZYHODAPP]

Maybe its me, but I've always felt boondocks is more about the conflict of generational and soical class conflict. The dynamics between Huey and Grand-dad show case it so well

[@Mosesthewhiteboy]

RIP John Witherspoon. You will be missed. It's unfortunate that his passing means that we'll probably never get the Boondocks reboot we all were waiting on, but man the Legacy he left behind is beautiful.

[@chillreview636]

RIP 🙏🏾

[@PrussianoKbb]

I think it boils down to 2 Things - Intent - Critique For example, someone can make a genuine criticism about the black community, even if it's true, if it comes from a white nationalist that is an absolute racist, well, that person clearly just wants excuses for racism and found the newest one, however if it's from someone clearly well intentioned I think regardless of if they are part of the community or not, is totally valid. The other is the criticism itself, does it make sense?, or is it just stupid?, that can also take in to consideration

[@DavidMedic447]

Great points. I’m a Christian and have been disgusted by a lot of Christian culture lately. I’ve been struggling with my relationship with the Christian community for a few years now. This brings up a lot of stuff I need to ponder.

[@MamadouKane-w6f]

The way I see it: We should collectively love our people (I.e. we care about the well being and survival of our people even though we don’t know every single individual Black person), but we dont need to hold our tongue with regards to criticizing someone just because they are Black. For example, a Black cop brutalizes a brotha, we should loudly condemn him regardless of his skin color. Was that the message you was getting at?

[@chillreview636]

I was more so just setting up the scenario to see what all of you guys thought about it. I've been struggling with my pwn answer for awhile now lol. I agree with what you're saying though.

[@YusukeKnight]

Good discussion

[@Pleia_Ds]

The question might be more “who’s critique is worth listening to?”

[@ivanbluecool]

Honestly everyone should be allowed to critique something fairly. I always felt when you silence a voice before it's heard you are basically indirectly saying you are afraid of what is to be said Let someone with uncle ruckus level of hate say what they say as long as everyone listening knows this is not something right.

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

Agreed.

[@chillreview636]

Great point! The only thing that I see as dangerous with allowing everyone with an opinion to be heard, is that the more charismatic of the Ruckus types can influence the more gullible of us out there and radicalize them to their side.

[@ivanbluecool]

@chillreview636 yeah that can be a problem but on the other end we may get people like mlk that could have made a change if given the chance to speak.

[@idontknowanymore2515]

But how will everyone know it's bad though?

[@DSPHistoricalSociety]

@idontknowanymore2515 that's why free speech is so important. People will line up to critique bad ideas- people love being right and feeling smart

[@joshuayarn131]

I agree with everything you said thank you for your video

[@chillreview636]

Thank you for watching!

[@Mindyourownbiznes]

You're doing a great thing here. I love when people pose questions like this to themselves that make them question their own personal values and beliefs. Never stop asking questions and learning new things. It's great to see how many of the comments here are huge paragraphs of people expressing their opinions and having discourse. At the end of the day we're all still people and it's okay to agree to disagree.

[@chillreview636]

Beautifully said! Thank you

[@solomonworlds5489]

Note: I understood the word "Black" in this video to mean "American Black" as opposed to a Pan-African sense of the word. I do the same in my comment. TLDR: I think the main issue with critiquing groups outside your own is that folks aren't informed enough to be able to do so in a way that isn't disrespectful. I think it's fine for folks to critique groups outside their own, but they've got to do so with the right intent and in a way that highlights what could be their own misperceptions and shortcomings. I think the difficulty with critiquing culture is that the only aspects of culture that are being critique are those that are most salient. For instance, someone's comment talked about over sexualization in American Black Culture. I counter 1. that Black folks probably aren't more sexual than any other people, but capitalism is attracted to the new, different and often extreme others. Black people/culture are constantly made the foil, counter, other to "mainstream" or "white" culture, so it's attractive. Negrophilia what's the term used in the 1920s as white people were realizing that Black music really bangs, see jazz. Negrophilia refers to non-Black folks, but mainly white people loving, adoring, and/or fetishizing Blackness, Black culture, and, especially, Black art. 2. Sex also sells in capitalism because it is the epitome of OTHER and "breaks the rules." Before, at least, American capitalism, if not all forms of capitalism, most mainstream sprawling religions preached abstinence until marriage, though everyone was fucking. Everyone likes doing stuff we're not supposed to do. Lol. But in American capitalism where our bodies are not our own and we aren't supposed to have fun, then sex can't be our own either. Our bodies belong to our work and fun doesn't contribute to the work. (Body + fun + being consenting adults = sex a lot of the times. It's not the ONLY way adults have fun with their bodies but it's a common way.) So, where are the original commenter says that the over sexualization in Black culture is a negative, I actually see it as a positive because it's a way, one of the many ways, that Black folks have rebelled against the white systems/cultures that originally stole us. 3. The comment fails to recognize that Black women have often been seen as sexual beings only -- see the history of gynecology, the later decades of the slave trade, etc. as examples. In social psychology black women are often called "invisible" because the prototype for Black is a man and for woman is white. Likewise, Black men are fetishized for their penis size. So, while the Black community, from the outside, might put a lot of stock in sexualization, that comment fails to recognize, and many critiques of any aspect of any culture fail to recognize, the reasons WHY the result is the way it is. They forget why there is something to critique in the first place -- namely, history, economics, power, and class struggle. If you read this whole thing, thanks for coming to my YT Ted talk. Haha. Love the videos fam👏🏾 Please keep them up in the new year! 🙏🏾

[@kaliduncanel3356]

3:51 I want to be abundantly clear about this. NONE of these types of people have any interest in constructively criticizing any society that isn't their own. They are grifters with disingenuous motives about why they even speak. Personal gain, fame, etc. If they weren't so interested in their own personal gain I'd take them seriously. I've spent years on intellectual dark web, alt-right platforms and they are not the solution even if they have existential truths. With that said as a black man who grew up in the suburbs I know that no one wants to hear my opinion on shit, so no I do not feel comfortable critiquing black culture.

[@BlueHouseX]

like you said about young black men dying, yes i want critique everything but dam theirs so many factors that keep the culture the same because of so many outside factors, i hate hearing the yt ppl talking about our culture with no understing or blantly ignoring the outside factors

[@clipzbyj589]

Be careful man, you know you can't talk about people who don't want to be talked about. ..... All jokes aside I'm glad you made this video

[@gohanxftw]

You just made me question a lot. Subbed

[@wavelinkxp9826]

Whoa! You picked quite a topic to end the year on but it's definitely a good one! Hmm, I certainly feel some type of way when someone criticizes black culture with the goal of profiting off the discourse, which seems to happen a lot. That's said, as mentioned by you and the show, some of the culture is harmful and has become so normalized that challenging those ideas is not seen favorably, at least in my experience. People learn and grow on their own time and sometimes the best you can do is meet them where they are, lead by example, and let people know when they are ready you will be there.

[@chillreview636]

Yeah definitely could have picked a lighter topic 😅 but I'm just interested to hear what people think. I definitely see where you're coming from. My only worry is those who never learn and never learn to change and how that affects all of us.

[@wavelinkxp9826]

@@chillreview636 I wish I had a definitive answer to give, but it's a complicated issue. I don't think this problem will ever be "solved" but things will improve slowly as more people grow and share their experiences. Just look at the change in perception of mental health. It might not be this generation, but I believe that as we learn, we can pass on that knowledge to the generations after us who can do this same leading to some real positive changes.

[@itz_ic21gaming97]

Thanks for the reminder of the idea of that I'm not the only one who feels the same way when it comes to cultural problems. Although I'm a slavic yet I've found similarities in your video when it comes to cultural issues.

[@nedeemmalik]

Banger

[@lVlegabyte]

It’s been a while since I’ve watched this particular episode, but if I recall correctly at the end of the episode doesn’t a Mexican (that took a class) talk about the food Grandad served at the restaurant being more for survival and not meant to be eaten on the daily?

[@chillreview636]

That's correct! Chico saved the day lol

[@just_your_localguard9612]

Communities aren't immune to criticism, just because someone didn't live it, dosent mean they can't point out flaws in that community. It's niave in my opinion to say "only my community allowed to criticize themselves".

[@mareeeeeeeeeeeeeeee]

07:09 wow I never thought of it like that

[@mcjcave18]

Great video

[@chillreview636]

Thanks bro!

[@naijahn13]

5:39 my answer to them would be, “what are you willing to do to help?”

[@Mitcham28]

Anyone has the right to criticize. We're all human beings and we all objectively have a base sense of morality that is shared across all cultures. But the one's who should be listened to are those who understand the culture and what they are talking about. Who approach these sensitive topics with nuance and understanding, not hate. Generalizations are the death of reason.

[@DocLunger]

The Boondocks will never die, nor get old.

[@chillreview636]

Realest thing I've read today

[@houseofmatrix6174]

Great video bro dope perspective

[@chillreview636]

Thanks broski!

[@ElephantFilmWerks]

In retrospect it's a little too omnipotent for Ed Wuncler to know Robert's food would be so addictive it would destabilize the neighborhood and drive down property values.

[@jdgenius912]

great question. i think it’s important to define culture. and even more important what is blackness?

[@TylerJackson-cs2ub]

Was this video a response to the whole fat joe controversy or is it unrelated

[@christopherballero866]

In general any critique of a culture can often be seen as an attack against said culture. If someone attacks/critiques a part of said culture they could have issues. I will say that I feel like South Park is a great example as they go after everyone seemingly equally while showing both extremes & a middle side.

[@chillreview636]

Yeah. I think objectivity and not showing favoritism is a big part of getting people to listen to your argument in general, and South Park used to that really well back in the day.

[@josephcontinelli7997]

@@chillreview636you don’t think they do it as well as they use to

[@BobDole1216]

I actually think of South Park as one of the worst examples, as someone who was a huge fan of them for many years (probably not a coincidence that those years for me were middle school through early college). I personally believe SP did more damage to political discourse and engagement in millennials and young Gen X'ers than almost any other show. The issue in my mind is that with very few exceptions they didn't ridicule positions or beliefs as much as they ridiculed the concept of caring or having strong feelings about a position or belief. That combined with their centrist libertarian viewpoints led very consistently to the conclusion that "both sides are equally dumb; the answer is ~somewhere in the middle~; we don't need to change things, people just need to chill out" which is just conservatism for people without conviction. In their pursuit of 'everybody should be a valid target of ridicule, nothing is sacred' (which I do agree with in the abstract), most episodes ended up being the real-life actual oppressor being portrayed as silly and ineffectual/harmless and the real-life actual oppressed as being crazy and overreactive.

[@BobDole1216]

To expand, my frustration with SP is that people speaking of against very real injustices and threats are painted with the same brush as the people perpetrating those injustices. The only virtuous and most correct action is no action; change nothing because nothing significant actually needs to be changed. We're all just people living our lives and doing our best; any impression people have of bad actors, systemic issues, and bigotry are just them being overly sensitive.

[@chillreview636]

@@josephcontinelli7997 I just haven't watched South Park in years unfortunately. It may very well be just as good as it was back in the day, but I can't speak on that. I hope it's still great though

[@shebjess]

Great video! I think if you're outside of a culture, you can critique it but it comes with a huge caveat of your intent and acknowledging that you're an outsider. I think that's partially of what makes Kendrick Lamar's Not Like Us so popular because sometimes, *I'm* the Not Us. I'm a straight Black woman and as much as I might have in common with another culture, I have to acknowledge the nuances I'll miss. I'm not the child of an immigrant and I've never worried about being hurt because of my sexuality. I can have opinions but at the end of the day, I'm Not Like Them and I'mma have to sit down and listen

[@angelzavala1639]

Its a very complicated question and one I honestly see no one definitive answer. Yes all cultures are flawed bc well there all human. However, its the memebrs of said culture who bore the biggest responsibility in maintaining their values or evolving into new ones. The only useful outsiders are outsiders who are willing to algin with a particular struggle to theirs and have a praxis about it (ex: women's issues or a ecological issue etc) as well be a allie. Its a very vexing topic given the ugly history of imperialism and there is naturally a level of distrust to outsiders. As someone who is mexican I personally l listen to ousiders whom I know are allies or have some inderatanding or a living relationship with the culture (even if its at a basic level of appreciating the culture) This my take. Thanks for the video.

[@javonmorissette907]

I believe if you're right, i need to take the time to think about why and how they're right. Regardless of the intent of the claim or origin of the being that said it. I ignore ignorance/arrogance and think about things that are valid points. I dont believe we shouldn’t take something away from someone just because they're a pos. Though they are a pos they're right and the fact that a pos is right is sad. So, lets brain storm on how to prove em wrong. We shouldn't let our pride lead us away from the potential of greatness.

[@Darthdoodoo]

Your the only person here that is in the right mindset everyone else is in a weird tribal mentality

[@nojusticenetwork9309]

For me personally, I am of the belief that people OF the culture are the primary people who can and should critique and judge said culture and outside voices should not hold nearly as much weight. That said, those outside opinions shouldn't immediately be discounted depending on the intent. The reason I i see why so much negative push ack from outside opinions is because they generally speaking surface level critiques or just factually wrong. You can look at most black movements and see how "allies" act. Black activists can outright tell their nonblack allies what the issues are only for those allies to ignore what they just heard and point to some other thing as the issue, "fix" it and call it win. Its ridiculous.

[@otislamar8613]

I understand intent is well, but if you aren’t from that culture, you don’t understand it as well so then it’s hard to give critiques on something you don’t understand. I think it’s best for people to critique their own cultures and then only admire other cultures. It’s not always our place to fix everything.

[@benzur3503]

There is a lack of faith for an all ordering standard which could reliably be used to judge all systems whether it is a part of them or not. And that distrust isnt unearned, a lot of hubristic claims to be able to dictate the good to all have been used to justify alot of evil and harmful actions. An internal critique of a system would at least know its language better, would assume less of its core elements as unimportant and would likely know better to navigate through what matters to people enmeshed in that system. But that too does not give us what Spinoza called “Sub specie aeternitatis”- the view from eternity. The ability to see how a decision would be right now, before, and forever more. Cultural critcism is hard and requires alot of trust to be received without suspicion, and only after the lack of suspicion it could be contended with and considered honestly, not necessarily even accepted. The displaying of the honest motive is a hard mean to reach. Ive been taking driving lessons for a while now by a guy whos a hyperfan of my current on and off 20 years conservative prime minister, and i can be honest in saying i never really contended with the arguments their alex jones like media keeps spewing to keep them busy hating on everyone else to throw blame for every failure at the deep state or some such scapegoats. And there are actual arguments there, which i cant just say “well thats a lie” and expect to be taken honestly. To reach and express honest care, to dissuade suspicions of ill intent is a difficult process. Outgroup more than ingroup, but ingroup too nontheless. Thank you for stressing this issue

[@daegaskins3340]

Nobody can critique the culture because the culture in so convoluted… white sociologist, black immigrants, and POC’s & pop culture depictions make it hard for us to get anything done.

[@TriclopstheInfinite]

I think if the opinion of the outsider is requested and the intent is noble, I suppose it’s not that bad. However, I’d never ask for the opinion of a non black person on issues that affect us. Ever. It’s not really their place and more often than not their opinions are ignorant and lack context

[@Darthdoodoo]

Saying a white guy cant say anything about black women because they are not part of the culture is goofy. We have to live with them too they are part of our world why aren't we allowed to make our own observations and jokes that's bull shit

[@just_your_localguard9612]

I believe this is true about everything, stereotypes exist for reason

[@chillreview636]

People are allowed to joke, and people are also allowed to not find those jokes funny. I think that's fair

[@bizbaby]

Using the boondocks to antagonize the black community is an odd choice for a KZbin video

[@hibbs1712]

Seriously. Both this video and the previous one are purposefully straddling the line. From some dude with dubious morals

[@chillreview636]

How is this video antagonizing anyone? (Besides Andrew Schulz, I guess)

[@chillreview636]

"Dubious morals"?????? Bro what?? 😂😂

[@Robert_D_Mercer]

Lmao when Benny and Peterson showed up. Now Ben I find annoying as hell too, But peterson just seems like that heavy christain type. He doesn't seem that wild Edit: I dunno, it's location bias cuz the man lives in a city where I added to it's skyline... lol..

[@chillreview636]

Admittedly, I know less about JP's politics than Shapiro's but the snippets of JP's idealogy I have heard don't really sit well with me. Unrelated to their politics - Both of their voices are just very annoying to me lol

[@tylermanning4321]

Anyone thats affected by the culture gets to critique it. Whether its through direct means ie being apart of it or indirect means ie those on the recieving end of the effects of that cultures consequences.

[@xic777]

as one artist said, culture is a mokery of people of the past. So don't take it serious and better yourself and others would do the same. I do take offence when people lump me up into one group, one culture or one idealogy cuz i am many things as a human being and tbh ppl shouldn't be held accountable for other peoples actions, If 10k idiots want to drink the coolaid that's on them. You are an individual , you are one .

[@Jay_daewi]

I look at it like this. If a total racist or biggot said that 2+2=4 would they be wrong. Someone that you completely disagree with on every single matter can still say something that is correct or something that you agree with. You know ow that saying a broken clock is always correct twice a day

[@joyg2526]

Critique of a demographic group should primarily come from within that group. When white European Americans discuss African American issues, skepticism is warranted due to the deep-rooted nature of systemic racism and classism, which often eludes conscious awareness. Authentic feedback is difficult to provide from an outsider's perspective, making it harder to identify social issue root causes. Even academics may overlook their biases. I refrain from commenting on such matters, acknowledging my limitations in understanding and insight.

[@Mellojoseph]

Another great video! 🙂

[@chillreview636]

Appreciate it bro!

[@joserr2600]

I honestly believe there is no correct answer. There's only right moments and times. There are counter arguments for every scenario whether that person is black or white, rich or poor, man or woman, young or old and also if its done in private or a public setting. Being self-aware and having wisdom knowing if this is the time to say something, would you be the best person to say it ect ect. But in general i do believe its best when it comes from the culture itself. for example im Puerto Rican ( black ,white and Indian ) i grew up in the hood with black men and women my whole life. there culture is my culture that ive lived my whole life with. but out side of me saying something to a close friend saying something in a public setting wouldnt be received well no matter how good my intension are cuz i would always be treated as an outsider to the culture. i dont take offence to it. i just know better lol.

[@chillreview636]

Lol knowing when and where to speak your midnis always important. But I'm curious, as someone who grew up with other minority cultures (and I'm assuming is very close with those people) how do you feel about not having your opinion about their culture valued just because you're not technically one of them?

[@joserr2600]

@@chillreview636 Well within my circle of friends and there families my thoughts and opinions get taken alot more to heart cuz they know me and what im about. They also know the environment they lived thru i also lived thru, cuz in the hood blacks and Hispanics are looked at as the same to outside eyes. They know the struggle ive had to live thru just as ive seen there's. So that bond through adversities gives my voice weight. i cant expect people who have never known me to listen to my opinion even if i think im qualified. But when its time to kick facts and game about life in a private setting im comfortable having those discussion cuz there's no publics opinion weighing the conversation down.

[@Demsky83]

I critique everything

[@chillreview636]

As is your right

[@fooloo415]

Me.

[@jaylanthompson]

Really enjoyed this. I definitely think the messenger matters. In the case of Granddad’s restaurant, it’s one thing if someone like Huey, who is very clearly genuine in his care for black people and the culture and is also black himself, comments on it, but from people like Elon or Trump, who clearly DON’T understand black culture, have shown that they do not have our best interests in mind, and are also non-black (white), it immediately comes off as insincere and as more hateful rhetoric. Why would I believe that they have genuine care for us based off everything I’ve witnessed? Of course it’s possible for non-black people to have empathy, but just that immediate difference in who/what we are is enough to raise eyebrows before hearing anything.

[@anthonynewton1254]

What about suburban black kids, are they even apart of the culture?

[@chillreview636]

Most of not all cultures have sub cultures that operate within them. Black American Culutre includes all black Americans imo, so yes. And I'm not just saying that because I'm one of them 😂

[@imwitdahsquidz]

great vid

[@chillreview636]

Thanks Homie!

[@smallmediumatlarge]

New Port culture is disgracefully disgusting 🤢

[@Aaron2hungry]

Bruh

[@RatRaceRuler]

As a Hispanic growing up around almost exclusively black people I felt like this show spoke to me too. Now I realize I’m not part of the culture even if my gf is black. But as a kid I didn’t understand that. It was all I knew

[@smallmediumatlarge]

Noggawhat?

[@Darthdoodoo]

As a white guy whos genuinely trying to understand things i can't understand why black people are so unwilling to hold each other accountable for their actions and defend each other even in some extreme circumstances like they committed acts of random violence on an old lady and killed someone and u still see their neighbors on the news defending them it makes no sense to deny these problems or they only get worse

[@calebangus4593]

It might be time to put the fox news down…

[@bboymac84]

Some Black folks are afraid of being corrected. This can effect growth

[@jashonharris]

Tell me your favorite Anthony Shitz joke. Literally can watch him with a straight face. Anyway, if the criticism is in good faith , sure, but these same ppl cry when someone has shit to say abt them. We don’t have to just take and accept shit from ppl who don’t have our best interests at heart 🤷🏽‍♂️

[@chillreview636]

You know the one where he was like.... he was kinda joking about... he was uhhhh.... I got nothing lol

[@ElTurbandito]

firrrrrst

[@ColinBFClarke]

2st