Who Controls What in the Watch Industry? | The Classroom S02: Episode 9

[@512bb]

Another superb presentation, thanks very much John.

[@the1916company]

Jon has certainly earned the title of "The Professor." Thanks for your support Scott! - WatchBox Team

[@halebopp5332]

Excellent vid. I always considered Swatch the bad guy. Thanks for the insight.

[@stevenuk]

Just my experience and own opinion, collectors are less drawn to Richemont & LVMH brands today becasue of the identity reducing fashion influence and some cross-breeding designs. The independants are going to do better.

[@sirbuftontufton5846]

I think the independents have more freedom to control their own destiny. Whether they do it well (Rolex) or badly (Breitling until 2017) is a different matter. In recent times, Richemont seem to have restricted JLC to a specific corner of their brand portfolio (probably a mistake), but Lange are doing amazing stuff in the same group.

[@andreaslarsson3999]

Great episode!parmigiani fleurier and Carl F Bucherer are also superinteresting!very innovative!

[@roberthodge6711]

Excellent video! Thank you very much.

[@the1916company]

Thanks for watching Robert, we appreciate your support! - WatchBox Team

[@coloneldragon8150]

LVMH despite hublot and tag heuer, Louis Vuitton also design watch since 2002, and also will launch High Watch such as Flying Turbillon in 2019

[@JoeGiz64]

Great walk down conglomerate road Jon. in your opinion do think the smaller players couldn’t survive on their own? I would think the big 3 Rolex, Patek, AP outspend exponentially on advertising....especially Rolex. Advertising dollars got to be a big part of it.

[@rickonwatches9932]

Jon, great video. What do you think of some of these conglomerates (particularly Richemont) moving towards more and more Boutique Only watches, while others are trimming retail ADs?

[@robin2thek]

How big is Oris? I love Oris.

[@andreaslarsson3999]

If i was Richmont,i would buy Eterna and put them to work constructing and building movements for the group!

[@the1916company]

Imagine That! Thanks for watching Andreas! - WatchBox Team

[@agm1644]

Patek, AP, Rolex.. and Seiko.

[@CrankingAllDay]

Seiko has 2 high end brand credor and GS. They also make a lot of stuff other than watches, such as equipment for oil and gas industry

[@dennisreyvallega7112]

@@CrankingAllDay so does that mean seiko is not an independent brand?

[@CrankingAllDay]

@@dennisreyvallega7112 pretty much, since Seiko has many brands under its control

[@dennisreyvallega7112]

@@CrankingAllDay oh okay. So this means seiko is like swatch/richemont

[@CrankingAllDay]

@@dennisreyvallega7112 much smaller, and all the brands are related. Think like Rolex/Tudor

[@meson183]

How comes everyone always forget to include Oris when listing the few remaining independents?

[@Nexus.Achiles]

Forgot to mention the highest selling group worldwide: Citizen.

[@CrankingAllDay]

Rolex is independent? You forgot about Tudor?

[@juanvelez5699]

By independent he meant that they are not owned by a 3rd party or belong to an association that is without their control, that being said tudor is a part or subdivision of rolex, it's more like Lexus and Toyota, hope it explains

[@TRUYORK718]

The illuminati does

[@robgat510]

No love for the Japanese brands?